Just listening to John explain his "split" with Daryl: He handles this as graciously, philosophically and "common-sensically" as I would imagine the topic can be handled. Good on him.
I find the ending of the friendship and broken bonds between Daryl Hall and John Oates very, very sad. At one time, these guys were just tremendous friends....and sometimes things can change. Circumstances changes and people change and sometimes friendships and the bonds can change or even end. But I will say....I will always enjoy their music whether they are together or solo or with other bands and other musicians. I will enjoy their music, as these guys are truly great.
Growing up they are my favorite band of all time and it is very sad that they broke up I was just shocked. I thought they'd be together forever musically I mean
It's nice to get John's feedback about moving on in his life and music so I now understand why he wants to move on from his Hall & Oates days. He's found where he feels comfortable with his music and that's the best thing for him. Really enjoyed this discussion.
Hey. They both doing music. Great combo in their TIME. TIME moves on. I loved watching Darryl's house and listening. We all have favourite songs. For me Beanie G and the Rose Tattoo with Todd Rundgren on lead and the hawaian crew,especially the drummer +( so so tight) just blew me away. Apart from Jimi H that ROX. Cheers don't be sad. Feel privileged to live that.
Great interview! It was pretty cool that John mentioned he was just at The Musical Instrument Museum. I went to his Friday concert. He was fantastic. Being onstage performing his songs, his way, rocked. Super happy for him! I also happened to go the last concert he did with Daryl, in Laughlin, 2 yrs ago. John was great and professional as usual, but the happiness glow, was missing. Glad he did what he did, to get the glow back.💙
I like the way that John talks and explains things. Very intellectual. And he does seem to have alot of points. But maybe I would be considered old fashioned, or archaic to John, because I am "old school" thinking. When John said that he and Daryl started their business partnership in 1972, I was 6 years old then! (And going through a tough time in my life). But about John; I wish I knew what he meant when he said that he had wanted to move on with his music career; exactly what is he referring to, or how was his plans causing a problem for Daryl? I don't know, only John knows Daryl, we are just the fans. Was John trying to reinvent himself, by starting a new business, and that he needed the funds to do that, so he had thought that selling his half to a company that made him an offer that he couldn't refuse, was the answer?? I can see why Daryl had a problem with that. Daryl probably felt that they had made all of those songs together as a team, and that John was planning to let that money-grabbing company to rip that apart?! Maybe Daryl could have given John a friendship loan-gift, to help John to get his new business up and running, without having to ruin a 50 year friendship-business relationship?
They already sold a lot of it..this is more about power and control from Daryl..about which songs r Johns and his..how much publishing rights to pay and which songs John can sing and use in his promotions
Gotta agree with you in so far as i saw Daryl on his house band tour prior to this tour and i would also grade that as a 7. That grade was from what i thought was a below standard non-upbeat set list...even below this current tour set list. Vocally, it's just time taking it's toll. He's had ungodly adlib vocal skills both in content and range for so long..nothing lasts forever! Touring, living, and bitching seems to have taken some of the life out of the Daryl Hsll "experience"... I can't put a definite "that's it" on it, but that's my 2 cents. Freshness is everything and it's a real challenge to bring earlier energies to a night in 2024. It may have just been the night i went(like you)...but who knows. Based on my musical ear, 7 for the performance and 10 for my Hall/Oates/catalog opinion. Great channel and review btw!!
Decades of Lyme disease doesn't help either. It's a full-body inflammatory syndrome. that includes vocal folds. Also, the brain. Which, frequently changes one's personality. And it's not completely curable by any known means.
@@africkinamericanyep didn't that affect Shania Twain's voice as well. People who have seen her lives said her voice is not the same anymore and it never will be. I never got to see her alive but I heard she doesn't sound the same. I wish Taylor Swift would pack it in and leave
The problem is, if John passes away -- as we all do, then he is leaving his family with a messy business arrangement. When you get a certain age and you are a responsible person, you make plans that include the fact that all of us eventually die. That's not to say he is going to die anytime soon, but you do have to plan for the worst when it comes to your estate. John is entitled to simplify his financial life in all manner... and Daryl really needs to respect that and do the work to allow it to happen without being a bitch about it.
How do you know Oates calling the situation with Hall a “messy business situation” is actually true? …and him not trying to portray himself as the victim in the court of public opinion Because ultimately we’re only getting one side and that side can’t/won’t give us specifics
The interviewer acts like Daryl doesn't have a life outside of H&O....Daryl has an amazing fulfilled life as well. There is so much more to this story than either Daryl or John legally or willingly will share. Daryl has remained pretty private about this suit where John yaks about it every interview. He just mentioned that its to bad that it was leaked and should of remained private but yet here he is in every interview talking about it. There are 2 sides to every story and no one has heard Daryls side. It always takes 2 to have a rift and each person has played a part in this rift. They both are great humans, with amazing talent. This rift shouldn't be news worthy.
Because Daryl aggressively did a restraining order and made it public, openly humiliating John again… so talking is his way of defending himself with his megaphone
"No one has heard Daryl's side" -- that's on Daryl. JO's clear he is not sharing details that legally should not be shared. He is giving a very general narrative to help fans understand what's going on. Also, he's being, IMO, extremely concilatory and gracious about it.
@@reg12269 Yeah that seemed like kind of a dumb move to me. WHATEVER the legal details, on a PR level it's self-defeating and inevitably makes him look like the bad guy.
A very interesting listen. John is extremely articulate and engaging with so much information (the vinyl groove thing has blown my mind!). With regard to the split, John & Daryl are so different - their attitudes and lifestyles are miles apart. Daryl has been very disrespectful to John in interviews which is a shame. The interesting thing is that Daryl has implied John made little contribution to their partnership and yet he seems to be the one who is unable to work alone.
Yes it's very sad and what's even better as I was always a big fan of Hall & Oates and I used to have a crush on hall when I was younger in the 80s but just found out recently that he's really not a nice guy and that he was conceited and a D...k. very sad. Maybe that's why John's leaving H & O.
much respect for John Oates...successful marriage and taking care of his kids unlike daryl Hall not supporting his biological son from what I have read.
As to vinyl and limitations where quiet songs were put at the end : not always true . Take Genesis Wind and Wuthering or And then there were three or Trick of the tail : all clock over 50 minutes and not quiet songs at the end. And those are 70's records that sound good.
Hall & Oates had a great run for a long time but like a bad marriage it eventually ended. It's just too bad both guys can't work out their financial details privately and just move on in separate directions permanently. Both guys are in their seventies & no one is going to live forever.
I understand that the interviewer is friends with Oates. But with that said he should’ve kept himself neutral when discussing what’s going on with Hall and Oates, instead of painting Oates as the victim. Because he’s only hearing one side of the story, Oates’ side, and that side is very vague at that.
@@reg12269 Thats your criteria for a friend. I prefer friends to be honest with me and not stroke my ego. Especially if I were in a situations like this.
Idk what you're listening to, since Oates didn't even paint himself as the victim here. I hear him actually just giving a very humble, cool and calm explanation of his side (which he's entirely entitled to give, and probably feels he owes the fans) that tries to give DH as much benefit of the doubt as possible. In fact I can't imagine any cooler and calmer way to explain the situation than he's done. DH spoke VERY loudly and publicly in the form of a lawsuit.
I started looking at it as an option after retiring from the IT world, but it is just not the same now. Not worth the price you pay. Maybe that's why most new music sucks. Just not attracting or recognizing the greatest musical minds anymore.
oh, just shut up and play... both are 78, worth tens of millions of dollars,.. have what 99.99% of people only dreamt off - and still, fighting like little kids... Duh
John sounds like a responsible, introspective person, I wish him all the best.
Just listening to John explain his "split" with Daryl: He handles this as graciously, philosophically and "common-sensically" as I would imagine the topic can be handled. Good on him.
I find the ending of the friendship and broken bonds between Daryl Hall and John Oates very, very sad. At one time, these guys were just tremendous friends....and sometimes things can change. Circumstances changes and people change and sometimes friendships and the bonds can change or even end.
But I will say....I will always enjoy their music whether they are together or solo or with other bands and other musicians. I will enjoy their music, as these guys are truly great.
The fact of the matter is that friends come and go in your life. It’s natural.
Sometimes, a mind changes.
Growing up they are my favorite band of all time and it is very sad that they broke up I was just shocked. I thought they'd be together forever musically I mean
Daryl marryd tu hum ?
It's nice to get John's feedback about moving on in his life and music so I now understand why he wants to move on from his Hall & Oates days. He's found where he feels comfortable with his music and that's the best thing for him. Really enjoyed this discussion.
Hey. They both doing music.
Great combo in their TIME.
TIME moves on.
I loved watching Darryl's house
and listening. We all have favourite songs. For me Beanie G and the Rose Tattoo with Todd Rundgren on lead and the hawaian crew,especially the drummer +( so so tight)
just blew me away. Apart from Jimi H that ROX. Cheers don't
be sad. Feel privileged to live that.
Great interview! It was pretty cool that John mentioned he was just at The Musical Instrument Museum. I went to his Friday concert. He was fantastic. Being onstage performing his songs, his way, rocked. Super happy for him! I also happened to go the last concert he did with Daryl, in Laughlin, 2 yrs ago. John was great and professional as usual, but the happiness glow, was missing. Glad he did what he did, to get the glow back.💙
Sad Oates seems like a good guy.
This is sad. You guys were my favorite Duo
it's great to hear the other side of this, the body of work stands for itself. I understand and agree Oats.
John, as a tremendous fan and a huge record collector, PLEASE release your new album on vinyl!
Great Interview!
Great, great share. Thanks !
Mr Oates is amazing
I like the way that John talks and explains things.
Very intellectual.
And he does seem to have alot of points.
But maybe I would be considered old fashioned, or archaic to John, because I am "old school" thinking.
When John said that he and Daryl started their business partnership in 1972, I was 6 years old then!
(And going through a tough time in my life).
But about John; I wish I knew what he meant when he said that he had wanted to move on with his music career; exactly what is he referring to, or how was his plans causing a problem for Daryl?
I don't know, only John knows Daryl, we are just the fans.
Was John trying to reinvent himself, by starting a new business, and that he needed the funds to do that, so he had thought that selling his half to a company that made him an offer that he couldn't refuse, was the answer??
I can see why Daryl had a problem with that.
Daryl probably felt that they had made all of those songs together as a team, and that John was planning to let that money-grabbing company to rip that apart?!
Maybe Daryl could have given John a friendship loan-gift, to help John to get his new business up and running, without having to ruin a 50 year friendship-business relationship?
They already sold a lot of it..this is more about power and control from Daryl..about which songs r Johns and his..how much publishing rights to pay and which songs John can sing and use in his promotions
Only the Allen Sister’s shares
John Oates: Out of the shadow and into the light.
Gotta agree with you in so far as i saw Daryl on his house band tour prior to this tour and i would also grade that as a 7. That grade was from what i thought was a below standard non-upbeat set list...even below this current tour set list. Vocally, it's just time taking it's toll. He's had ungodly adlib vocal skills both in content and range for so long..nothing lasts forever! Touring, living, and bitching seems to have taken some of the life out of the Daryl Hsll "experience"...
I can't put a definite "that's it" on it, but that's my 2 cents. Freshness is everything and it's a real challenge to bring earlier energies to a night in 2024. It may have just been the night i went(like you)...but who knows. Based on my musical ear, 7 for the performance and 10 for my Hall/Oates/catalog opinion. Great channel and review btw!!
Decades of Lyme disease doesn't help either. It's a full-body inflammatory syndrome. that includes vocal folds. Also, the brain. Which, frequently changes one's personality. And it's not completely curable by any known means.
@@africkinamericanyep didn't that affect Shania Twain's voice as well. People who have seen her lives said her voice is not the same anymore and it never will be. I never got to see her alive but I heard she doesn't sound the same. I wish Taylor Swift would pack it in and leave
Makes Sense. Cheers
John sees the H&O brand as complete and finished and Daryl wants to maintain it, it seems? Interesting info about the record grooves. Never knew that.
The problem is, if John passes away -- as we all do, then he is leaving his family with a messy business arrangement. When you get a certain age and you are a responsible person, you make plans that include the fact that all of us eventually die. That's not to say he is going to die anytime soon, but you do have to plan for the worst when it comes to your estate. John is entitled to simplify his financial life in all manner... and Daryl really needs to respect that and do the work to allow it to happen without being a bitch about it.
How do you know Oates calling the situation with Hall a “messy business situation” is actually true? …and him not trying to portray himself as the victim in the court of public opinion
Because ultimately we’re only getting one side and that side can’t/won’t give us specifics
The interviewer acts like Daryl doesn't have a life outside of H&O....Daryl has an amazing fulfilled life as well. There is so much more to this story than either Daryl or John legally or willingly will share. Daryl has remained pretty private about this suit where John yaks about it every interview. He just mentioned that its to bad that it was leaked and should of remained private but yet here he is in every interview talking about it. There are 2 sides to every story and no one has heard Daryls side. It always takes 2 to have a rift and each person has played a part in this rift. They both are great humans, with amazing talent. This rift shouldn't be news worthy.
Because Daryl aggressively did a restraining order and made it public, openly humiliating John again… so talking is his way of defending himself with his megaphone
"No one has heard Daryl's side" -- that's on Daryl.
JO's clear he is not sharing details that legally should not be shared.
He is giving a very general narrative to help fans understand what's going on. Also, he's being, IMO, extremely concilatory and gracious about it.
@@reg12269 Yeah that seemed like kind of a dumb move to me. WHATEVER the legal details, on a PR level it's self-defeating and inevitably makes him look like the bad guy.
A very interesting listen. John is extremely articulate and engaging with so much information (the vinyl groove thing has blown my mind!).
With regard to the split, John & Daryl are so different - their attitudes and lifestyles are miles apart.
Daryl has been very disrespectful to John in interviews which is a shame. The interesting thing is that Daryl has implied John made little contribution to their partnership and yet he seems to be the one who is unable to work alone.
I don't understand where the "recent" attitude of diminishing John's contribution comes from.
Yes it's very sad and what's even better as I was always a big fan of Hall & Oates and I used to have a crush on hall when I was younger in the 80s but just found out recently that he's really not a nice guy and that he was conceited and a D...k. very sad. Maybe that's why John's leaving H & O.
I prefer them together than apart. I didn't really like Daryl Hall solo work
Totally understand why the lawsuit is happening!! And yes being out there in public is sad!!!! Hope both figure it out soon!!!👍❤️🇨🇦
much respect for John Oates...successful marriage and taking care of his kids unlike daryl Hall not supporting his biological son from what I have read.
Hall made the group relevant. His vocals made it work. Oates could have been replaced by anyone honestly.
John wrote many of the hits.
Can't go for that, Maneater, Sara's Smile and You make my dreams come true, many more.
He also sang lead on many songs.
Well Said 👏👏👏👏 hall was very Nasty “Saying HE IS NOT MY ARTISTIC PARTNER “
As to vinyl and limitations where quiet songs were put at the end : not always true .
Take Genesis Wind and Wuthering or And then there were three or Trick of the tail : all clock over 50 minutes and not quiet songs at the end. And those are 70's records that sound good.
I guess John won't be performing at Daryl's house any time soon.
Hall & Oates had a great run for a long time but like a bad marriage it eventually ended.
It's just too bad both guys can't work out their financial details privately and just move on in separate directions permanently. Both guys are in their seventies & no one is going to live forever.
Which Taylor Swift would go away too like every other musician
Me too Tammy! So sick of her face popping up on the television screen while I'm trying to watch NFL games on weekends.
I understand that the interviewer is friends with Oates. But with that said he should’ve kept himself neutral when discussing what’s going on with Hall and Oates, instead of painting Oates as the victim. Because he’s only hearing one side of the story, Oates’ side, and that side is very vague at that.
As his friend, not his job to b neutral.. read wat u want
@@reg12269 Thats your criteria for a friend. I prefer friends to be honest with me and not stroke my ego. Especially if I were in a situations like this.
Idk what you're listening to, since Oates didn't even paint himself as the victim here. I hear him actually just giving a very humble, cool and calm explanation of his side (which he's entirely entitled to give, and probably feels he owes the fans) that tries to give DH as much benefit of the doubt as possible.
In fact I can't imagine any cooler and calmer way to explain the situation than he's done.
DH spoke VERY loudly and publicly in the form of a lawsuit.
@@africkinamericanMy issue was with the interviewer. He’s the one that’s painting Oates as the victim with those leading questions. Not Oates…
They'll re-unite and tour again 2025/26... reunion seems part of the cycle these days.
Or maybe release a bunch of 7” singles!!
DERYL MARYD ?EGEN
I started looking at it as an option after retiring from the IT world, but it is just not the same now. Not worth the price you pay. Maybe that's why most new music sucks. Just not attracting or recognizing the greatest musical minds anymore.
oh, just shut up and play... both are 78, worth tens of millions of dollars,.. have what 99.99% of people only dreamt off - and still, fighting like little kids... Duh