BMW M2 Coupe 2017 review from an M4 owner
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- My thoughts on the amazing M2 from the point of view of an M4 owner.
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Nick's first point here is ON POINT. The simplicity and lack of options allows people to simply drive and enjoy...couldn't agree more.
A refreshing change from BMW
Few options makes the Nick Murray Sign and Drive event at Murray BMW quick and easy.
I actually like that the interior isn't super fancy and complicated. It makes for a more back to basics driving experience
"Smaller is always better." Yeah, sure... I'm glad she turned you down gently.
you should be at the top !
lmao
*yawwnnnn*
Lol sure. I am not a mandingo and I have never had a woman unhappy with me.
You will never know, because a woman will never tell to your face she is unhappy in the bedroom department.
i think BMW under rates the horse power to keep insurance rates for the car alone down
didnt think of that. smart thinking move, it does make sense
Awesome review, thank you soo much Nick. I'm now "today" the proud owner of a 16' M2 6-spd. Your honest review assured me that my new and very first BMW, first "M" purchased was an excellent choice.
Remember the review you did back in 15? Audi S3 "Daytona" Launch edition. . .well that is the car I just sold to get the M2 & purchased after viewing your vid even back then Cheers-ADR
How do you like it?
How’s the car been?
A perfect car to this day!
Is that harambe in the back
Dicks out
RIP
yes hello
Harambo
Glad you like it Nick 🖒🖒🖒
It looks so awesome from the outside but I just feel like that interior is pretty uninspiring especially for 50k.
I wish you could get the cloth/alcantara seats from the m sport models on this car, they would look fantastic.
I agree, the seat apart from the stitching looks ordinary, the instrument cluster looks plain, I heard some materials are plastic and light feeling. For a M car I would like race pedals as standard. But the engine and exterior...beautiful!
youre not in there to feel comfortable and luxury. you're in there to drive. especially if you opt for the 6mt.
their modo isn't "bmw the Ultimate Driving Machine" for nothing. Superior engine and driving dynamics. get an Infinity then
$65k on my BMW.com build. 2013 M6 with opal white full leather and CF aero, conv less than 20k miles $55k
Totally agree. Would be a lot better if there was an option to have white/beige leather - think it would make the interior look far less cramped. I sat in one of these 2 weeks ago and for someone 6'3 I definitely felt claustrophobic (particularly compared to the M3 I sat in 5 minutes later)
Nick, your reviews are amazing.Today is becoming more and more rare to see a realistic review like yours are.
You are very knowledgeable on Porsches. I would love to see a 997 review from you. I think many people will find it interesting if you can compare head to head 997.2 to a 991.1 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You're right about the fronts and backs of these cars. The M2 is lacking in the back and I think a big part of it is how the fin extends off the trunk on the M4. Looks great.
Nick, BMW no longer offers the 4 year/50,000 mile maintenance program. It is now 3 year/36,000 mile with several exclusions.
Yes and no wear items such as breaks, rotors, clutch etc are included on all 2017 models and on.
Good review Nick. I think the M2 is the better choice for a drivers car compared to the M4. The M4 just got too big (4" longer than the e90?). Love the aggressive look of the 2 as well. I was actually eyeing the M2 to replace my e46 m3, but when the official specs came out I saw that it was as heavy as thr m4 but with 60 less HP, so I immediately turned my focus to a 997 C2s (which was my ultimate goal anyway). I wouldn't trade my 911 for an m2 (in fact, I will never drive front engine again) but if I needed 4 seats, this is the one. Also great commentary regarding the CLA. Total econobox POS compared to these other cars.
Completely agree. If I didn't need the back seats I'd go with the 997 or a Cayman GTS (although a bit pricey right now).
As a European, it was unsettling seeing 64 degress on your climate control.
As a South-African, i can relate lo
I don't give a fuck
meek miLL seriously though
Pierce Cooke it’s not degrees it’s rather Fahrenheit for Americans
It's incredible that the two cars have similar width. The M2 looks absolutely tiny in comparison in the video. I'm currently shaking with nostalgia. Not only because of the c64 tshirt but also the music. I kept thinking about entering a space station after installing a docking computer for the first time. Have a great day, Nick.
Great reviews on cars and choppers with a dash of humor. We really enjoy your videos which tend to disprove the theory that Kiwis cant fly.Keep up the good work and cheers from NZ.
Nice review Nick! Son just picked up 2018 M2! With introduction of the Competition model, regular M2 prices dipped. He was able to pick up a CPO model with 1100 original miles. He’s ecstatic with the vehicle! Have your blessing didn’t hurt! 😜...keep up the stellar and concise reviews!
the m2 always stands out among the bmw's
One of your best reviews Nick, great job. Thought you hit many key points, especially about the interior and the real size difference.
How do the seats and the comfort compare during driving?
the seats are great. 2020 M2 Comp. US spec, 4 options. Standard Seats are the best, very comfortable. No option for hard racing seats.
@@dafrasier1 I personally find them to be really sub-par for a car like this. Not alot of bolstering or back support
@@supraJZA80s I have never driven with bucket seats. Not a car guy. But they were nice for an old guy.
I had no seat options available when I ordered mine.
@@dafrasier1 Apologies, I just saw you have the Comp. I was talking about the standard M2 - I am told the comp seats are better
@@supraJZA80s I can only compare the seats to my 718 Boxster S. Basic seats, with some bolster, hard and uncomfortable.
the M2 Comp were plush with some bolstering.
After 20 laps on the Ring in a day my knees were sore in both cars, from bracing myself. No harness, not bucket seats; too many corners.
Great review Nick!! But the weight of the m2 is a big disappointment in my book 😐
They should've put a carbon roof on there and trimmed some more fat. Unless they release an M2 CSL down the road. That'd make things interesting!!
SAME weight as M4..
To me the best M currently available. It also increased hope that the next M5 will top everything.
I'm still loving my F30 m sport
We love you Nick. Keep it up your detailed reviews and fantastic cinematography!
I hate commenting on TH-cam but I'm glad to hear your opinion on the car, great video as always.
-M235 owner
It really is fantastic that BMW offer a spectacular driver’s car at a better price by far than it’s competitors. I also like that the M2 is not overwhelmed by buttons and choices. A real gem, I love mine despite having been a Porsche nut for 12 years.
The blue Danube is a beautiful song grate choice. Love to drive this car on a mountain road it's that in the background
That white-gray lettering on the dials seems like a reminiscence to the E46 M3. They horse power of the M2 and E46 M3 are also quite the same.
I got a question, would you trade the M4 in for the M2
I love my M2 , well done BMW
Good job Nick, thanks for another great review
I know this is sort of an old video now but as a former 1 series owner the M2 still fascinates me and I will definitely test drive one when it comes time for my next ride in a year or two. I am frustrated by the lack of adaptive suspension though and have heard that the overly stiff ride on bumpy roads (of which I have plenty around me) is a negative. With the new Audi RS3 being so good it might end up in my driveway just because it will make the better daily.
Good review vid overall. Both amazing machines and I gotta say, your picture quality in this vid is the best I've seen!
Nick you are EASY in my Top 3 most FAV youtubers! love your quality videos i enjoy every single 1 of them! keep up the good work sir :) cant wait for the porsche to arrive!
Do you want a M2 when the real value is with the M140i/M240i?
The M140i/M240i has similar torque to the M2 with a little less hp, and if you get the M140i, more practical, but is a whole lot cheaper.
Second Chance i am thinking the same thing
M140i (not driven M240i) is nothing compared to M2. The engine power is quite close but in everything else the M2 beats the M140i by miles. Especially in tight curves the M2 is fantastic to drive as the M140i is just a good car.
except the non-M care are pretty trash.....No widebody. the suspension components and driveline components are different. Power wise maybe :)
Nick you forgot to mention the dealer mark up on these as well as difficulty finding a dealer with allocation. When you factor that in Im not so sure I'd call it a bargain.
I would not allow any dealer to pull that shit, allocation is hard to find but not impossible, there is no reason to pay over sticker.
+Nick Murray haha someone has an opinion about car dealers. I'd choose a cayman over this but I'm a biased cayman owner
@@27Ctrojans Cayman is nice, but M2 is a better value for sure! I'm biased as well I own a M car!
Great review Nick, but I'm amazed how there are so few options for the M2 in the US.
In the UK we have all these options that can be added ......... HK stereo, enhanced bluetooth, electric glass sunroof, sun protection glass, folding mirrors, heated steering, electric seats, heated seats, lumber seats, adaptive headlights, high beam assist, comfort access, speed limit display, reversing camera.
Yes indeed, I looked at the UK configurator, most of the UK options are standard on the US model but no Sunroof.
+Nick Murray I don't think a sunroof belongs on the M2. Nice and Spartan; purpose built.
@ 8:30 - Agreed that the leather feels like vinyl and isn't at all tactily pleasing or sumptuous. However, on the upside it WEARS remarkably. I have an '06 330Xi with the Dakota Leather and the stuff looks brand new. It is almost impervious to cracks, fade or shine and still looks new after 10 years (and 75,000 miles).
my first computer was a commodore 64 .. awesome tshirt ! thanks for the review !
I went from a 320 to a 120 msport and loved it
My son just got his m2 ,scared he'll out of his wife first time she rode in it,she won't drive it,what a smart boy!
I'm gonna love owning one of these when the market value hits bottom! The 1M is preferred by some reviewers. I own some 2000-2003 BMWs and a Boxster, so don't misunderstand, but: You could get a 2017 Camaro SS for $37K with 455ft/lbs or the Camaro Turbo for $26K and 295ft/lbs for some serious performance and lower long term maintenance costs. Our mechanics remind us every time we bring one of our German cars in!
I've read somewhere that the way BMW rates the HP of their cars is essentially "it makes no less than ___ HP". Meaning that in the worst weather conditions it will still make the advertised power, instead of it making the advertised power only in the perfect conditions
bmw is doing some pretty awesome styling on their M line
As close to the spiritual successor to the e46 M3 as it gets.
Nick, no drag race against the M4? Would've appreciated a good exhaust clip, too. Thanks, keep the videos coming you Prius driving, Kiwi-American!!
No drag race as it would have been DCT vs MT and the DCT has an unfair advantage
+Nick Murray, ahhhh. Got it! Fair enough. Thx.
Also what's the point, 0-60 times are online?
+Pierce Cooke well, as you saw in this video, the horsepower figures are grossly underrated. One can assume 0-60 times are the same. Besides, who doesn't like watching a good drag race? He does them with a lot of the cars he reviews. I was wondering why not against his M4's little brother. Now I know why.
You can actually have a sunroof, my M2 Coupe got it built in.
Strauss. Brilliant choice!
I realize the M drivers package doesn't make much sense in US but in Germany the M drivers package is totally worth its price.
My M3 didn't have it when I bought it and I have regretted it almost every single time I drove it.
I removed the limiter in the meantime and it nows runs over (indicated) 320 kph.
So trust me it is totally worth it.
Should it be included from the get go? Yeah but I think streets are safer if not every BMW (or Audi or Benz etc.) runs over 250 kph.
Great music for a video on this car. Another short and sweet review! Keep up the great work....if one can call it that!
Great review as always and big shout out to the Commodore 64 T-shirt
Yes Neck - it is quite handsome from the rear. And 8 inches certainly is quite a lot.
Nice C-64 shirt also.
C-64 for the win
I wish all car reviewers would follow Nick's lead and make 60fps videos
Great video. Glenns Car Collection owns an M2 just like this and he does a lot of long term ownership reviews on it and comparison tests
Off topic but This is the first time I've seen you accurately capture the the color of the sakhir orange m4. Usually In Your videos it's VERY red.
I'd definitely get the Gran Coupe version when it comes out.
Will there ever be a hatchback M car?? Like M135i but actual M car.
Doubtful but they are making a four door M2 in a couple of years or so
No and I don't see a real reason for one.
There shouldn't be if it's as hideous as the 1-series
there is an m5 v10 wagon
AdoIf88HitIer not a hatch though techincally lol
That blue is fantastic
That colour is amazing! really compliments the M2. I need a new car, maybe add the M2 to the list of cars to look at..
Great review bro and the quality of the video is fantastic.
Thank you Nick!!! I put a deposit on an M2 Competition sport!!!!!
great review man! thanks for the great shots and effort. keep going!
Elite C64 music haha.
M2 best all round car out at the moment.
Spot on review Nick, you know you're stuff.
These are making around 330- 350 whp stock depending on octane/ type of dyno.
M2 looks awesome, I want one.
I still don't understand why the M cars still have standard rear lights and no LED bulbs etc... finally the M4 GTS / DTM have the OLED ones
They always put normal lights in for the first year or two of a model then at LED as part of the 'Refresh' it is a marketing thing they have been doing for more than 10 years.
This could most definitely be my first CT purchase!
I'm definitely a fan of cars like this; small yet very capable. However, the waiting lists on these is ridiculous, not to mention that dealers are trying to charge well over MSRP for a production car.
The only complaint I have about the M2 is the weight. BMW could have given it carbon roof and other lightweight materials to give it more of an edge.
Looking at M2 now. thanks for the review.
I would love to see M2 head to head with the new TT-RS
They arent competitiors
+Cjkologe They sorta are.
I agree ! What do you think is better ?
Phantom_972 hard to say really...but i think tt is faster since it has 400hp
+Sam Lotfi Yes the TT will be faster on straigh line, but is on a track the TT still faster 🤔? difficult difficult...
How does the single turbo setup feel compared to the twin turbo in the M4 ( is it more laggy in one vs the other) ? Does the M2 pull hard to redline better or does the M4?
Any reliability issues or problems that have arisen since shooting this video? A short update would be appreciated .
I love it. Best looking modern BMW.
380 to the rear I doubt that show me the numbers on a bone stock car I know numbers differ depending on weather conditions type of dyno etc but I seriously doubt it’s making that to the wheels, just my 2cents.
Nick when you say M4 is quieter, what kind of noise are we talking about. Engine noise, road noise, wind noise? And is it noisier than an m235i or the same?
All of the above, the M235i is quieter for sure.
Overall is great! I love the M2....but I really hope one day the car companies figure it out that the GPS monitor can only be on the bottom left corner of the windshield for the safety reasons. It still bothers me seeing the monitor in the center which can cause hazard and danger by looking at it for 0.5 seconds in the stop and go traffic...why everything needs to symmetrical? Safety first...
I was hoping it would have nicer sportier seats also I thought it would be more than 50-150 lbs lighter. I guess they couldn't go too crazy with it then it would be faster than the m4.
Top review Nick of the BEST M car ever made!!!!
The M3 is the daddy for M lovers my friend.
@z z look forward to it at 45. Wee lad. Ha. I’ve had more m cars than you’ve got pubes.
If you liked the M2, you would love the M2 Competition! When do you think you might give it a drive? They fixed a lot of the things you didn't like about the original.
I really enjoy your reviews. Thanks for this one. Bear in mind, the lack of buttons to your right by the gear shifter compared to your M4 is in part due to the lack of DCT in this car. I have a '15 235i with some Dinan bits. Really been tempted to trade up to this but Im holding out for the competition package hopefully next year. Cheers!
Smaller is better, I like the M2, other than the facts that the M4 has all the goodies. I like how he brought his teddy along for the ride.
Test drove the M2 and the Merc A45! Both great cars to drive but the Merc takes it in the styling, especially in the interior. BMW really need to get a grip and improve the interior, especially when you are paying so much money.
I think the drivers package is not a total ripoff.. (at least not in germany ;) )The training that you get focuses on maneuvers which come in very handy when driving on the Autobahn at 270km/h (lane changes, etc..).
I love your reviews!
The interesting comparison has to be between this and the Shelby gt350! That's a tough choice
Great video as alway dude, great to hear a kiwi accent! you are right it is a fabulous drive!
this car is perfect apart from the interior.. it looks like a 2007 car with shit seats and no sunroof
and it costs over 100k in australia
Well the sunroof is an option you can get if you want one. Looks are personal opinion so i wont comment on that. Shit seats? Have you sit in them? And yea oz is sadly quite expensive in germany you can get one with all the extras for 100k australian
+tolga1cool I think it looks great.. I meant the interior looks shit because it looks almost a decade old.. that's good you can get a sunroof now.. as for the seats i have heard they are comfy but they don't look sporty enough for me.. they look very thin and plain.. the rs3 interior and seats are miles ahead.. but Id definitely have an m2 over an rs3 even though I don't like the interior
This car is made for driving not for dainty posers who want luxury. The most desirable pre-owned M cars have always been the manuals with no sunroof because they are the best on a track. The clean interior without a bunch of clutter is perfect. You're paying for driving pleasure not unnecessary crap and that's why the price is so amazing.
i just think for 2016 it should be a little bit more up to date interior wise.. and the seats don't look sporty enough to me, they look like any plain 1/2 series seat
I would never really cross-shop the M2 with the M4. Much of that is due to the fact that I would only be in the market for the more practical (for my needs) M3. But even that aside, I only look at the M2 as being what anyone who might have ever considered buying the M235 would actually get.
Is the Competition much better ? Is the CS much more better ?
Awesome car! It's definitely on my short list. The Cayman as well.
Unless it's just an option, In the UK the M2s have different wing-mirrors that looks loads better
Exactly what I need to watch! Gonna replace the M3 E46 to either a M2, CaymanS or a M4/M3f80.
You'd say the M2?
You mention that the M2 doesn't have alot of options, but how about the 1M coupe?
Even LESS options to tick.
Nice comparison video - I actually think the M4 looks smaller due to the different lines
They should make some better colors though. But I do love this car. Reminds me sort of the E46 in a way
This car has been on my radar as my next car, but then made the 'mistake' of driving a 981 Boxster S with the PDK the other day and man what a glorious engine that is. I currently drive a 2014 328i M-Sport so I know that interior well and it was a huge letdown to see that damned Dakota leather in the M2. The M2 is still calling but I'm thinking a 987 or 981 Cayman S might get the final nod.
Commodore 64! I have a Flimbo's Quest t-shirt
Remember the Vic 20? Games on cassette tape.
Love the M2. The only reason I wouldn't buy one is because I hate BMW interiors and the lack of options in the M2 is a deal breaker for me.
Great video! Thanks for being fair and honest in your reviews. I do own a 2017 M2 6MT so I'm a touch biased, lol. I was actually looking at the new M3, but after pricing the options for it, it was way more than I could afford. They happened to have my future M2 in the showroom floor so I started learning about it right then. I have days I wish I could have afforded the M3, but for no particular reason I think just to say I have the M3 and the S55 engine. I have read that performance is extremely close between M2 and M3/M4 so that made me feel better inside. I then learned other things that made the M2 maybe better than other current M cars, so overall I have been satisfied with my purchase. Your M4 is beautiful. I had too many people that pretty much said I'm not even in the same breath as a M3/M4 and I wanted to tell them, really??? Look up the data, lol. I am looking at the Dinan Stage 2 power package which I may get some time this year. Thanks again for the video!!
What a coincidence - early in the morning I've watched your old M235i review and now you upload this, brilliant! By the way, how does the M2 compare to the M235i? For someone considering the latter one, is it worth paying more and getting the M2?
And as always, great review Nick. One of the best automotive channels here on YT. Keep it going!
Very similar to e46 m3 I feel. Would love to get one but love my e46 m3 so much