Thanks for all the comments guys. I’m Sam the guy doing the driving. I have seen a lot of comments of why do in the wet? Conditions are irrelevant if both the cars are in the same conditions. The wet is an absolutely amazing challenge and also shows the difference in chassis dynamics. When a car is under load it behaves totally different in the wet to the Dry. A couple Of comments about me missing apex’s 😂 I was infact taking apex’s but they were what is commonly known as the wet line. We take a wider line to reduce the amount of steering angle which let’s the front wheels rotate more freely. Both cars were awesome and both had pros and cons as do all the cars I drive. Opinions are just that and it’s one persons preference and perspective of the car they are driving. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have 👍
sam maher loughnan Please do a race of F90 version M5 vs the M5 competition. I think it would get lots of views, it would be very exciting to see the actual difference of having a ‘competition’ model. Please 🙏
No.He spun the car which was the more manageable of the two in a slide situation, he's a muppet but that is his appeal and he plays to his strengths with it. I totally agree with his choice and assessment of the M2 over the M4.
Aditya krishna totally agree the m2 is fun. The m4 is better for doing perfect traction laptimes. Then the price is way less expensive and the cars all today get bigger and bigger the m2 is just the right size for fun drifting as it’s not as big as a couch landscape ;)
Best car channel, i swear. They give us what we want, sometimes when we don’t think of it they do it. Amazing team, amazing videos, keep it up. This channel is awesome period.
Anyone else feel like the bbc should of approached Matt to be somewhat apart of the new top gear? They’re going for laughs and views and forgetting what the show is about, Matt’s a car journalist who knows what he’s talking about, can drive, and full of laughter. Perfect for the job
The M2 comp produce 405 bhp (410ps) but some are showing over 420 bhp standard on a dyno - l think Mat would have won that drag race if he had DCT instead of manual - must admit l would struggle to choose which one - l love both of them !! Keep up the good work 👍
@Retro Collected M4 Comp weights 1645 Kg L / B/ H in mm 4671 / 1870 / 1383 - M2 Comp weights 1625 Kg L / B / H in mm 4461 / 1854 / 1410 ...... I don.t see the Muscle Car difference...U?
@@vedaiken the guys who say the M4 is much heavier,are just regurgitating what they heard form everybody else,witch is false idea,ppl just don't think for themselves or fact check anymore,also they are the same people who don't even drive aggressive or close to limit,they just like the ideas about the car to talk about
This is awesome and i love these drag races you guys always do, but i will never understand why you always put manuals up against automatics, it never works out good for the manuals. I remember the first time i personally saw this happening was the M2 vs Mustang video where you ended up using the Manual Mustang and a DCT M2, it's always just that bit nicer seeing a more fair, even race where both cars aren't limited by their ability to shift and rather the rest of the car
I love the M4 looks, specially the front end, but I would take the M2 Comp any day. Size and price, + with a simple tune I could make same power easily.
M4 is so fuckin beautiful, the perfect balance in terms of overall looks. M2 looks tiny and M5's and above are too big. If only BMW didnt put basically the same M2 engine into the M4...it deserved some next generation 4.0 v8 from e92 or smth like that...
I nearly bought a 330ci after I sold my 130i, but it just felt a bit too slow in comparison. Looked great though, and I like the way the interior was made for the driver.
M2 Competition is a rock star. In the dry I bet the M2C would have won as it’s balance is just better than the much larger M4C. The longer wheelbase of the M4C is a huge advantage in the sloppy wet.
The second thing i did with my M4 Competition was an exhaust kit and the PIECE DE RISTANCE wide Michelin PS4s. you can squeeze 295 on rear and 285 on the front. The tires made all the difference for this car and you can finally put the power down.
Probably because in sport plus the throttle is sharp and all the torque comes instantly with the slightest touch and that's the last thing you want when is that wet
Same torque but more power just means the M4 revs higher, which is what I care about, and if you can still get it with a proper gearbox that must be a riot! Important things I'd like to know that weren't covered: which has the lower seating position? Quicker steering ratio? Redline? Room for how many tyres in the back with the seats down? Cabrio versions? Electronic or real handbrake?
M2 all day, every day. I fell in love with that car the moment they announced. Having owned E30's I look forward to the day of getting to own/drive one!
Hey Matt, slight problem with the Carwow website; the side menu is completely blank unless you got to the homepage first. Just wanted to let you (your website designers) know ;)
I literally just start watching this channel few days ago...and I got addicted to it...I just love these drag races and all the information...it's superb❣️
M2, M3 and the M4 all three have a neck to neck competetion when it comes to drifting.....I would go for the M2 for the weekend fun but for track day....it's the M3 and the M4
I agree with your final comments about the cars. I bought the M4 Competition, because it was to be my daily. Also, the longer wheelbase on our horrid roads made for a slightly less choppy ride
Drifting comes naturally, jump in something with an lsd and give it a go, in the wet it's just a matter of knowing how much opposite lock is needed and control the slide with your right foot, practice on track or even in a field, You'd be amazed what you could do in just a few hours of practice.
That's a very good test, drag, lap time, drift session. You're very good drifter aswell👏 Thank you for all your videos, with this good atmosphere, and interesting duels. From France ✌️
Great to see M cars being driven on the edge and racing driver guy was using all his skills, which along with the very cool and skilled drift stuff makes this video and this Chanel stand out from the others.
There's always one bitching about this in every video. The engine actually makes the same power regardless of mode. It just chances noise and response at part throttle, which is irrelevant in a race where it's WOT all the way.
These guys are tryna sell cars on carwow but I kinda want this to become a top gear/ grand tour type show with mat and Doug demure which most likley won’t happen and yannimize Mat is actually a a pretty good show host
Can we see a BMW race between M6, M5, M4, and M2 with all cars in the Competition Pack trim? Or between the M5 Comp, M4 CS, M4 Comp, and/or M2 CS/Comp.
Thanks for all the comments guys. I’m Sam the guy doing the driving. I have seen a lot of comments of why do in the wet? Conditions are irrelevant if both the cars are in the same conditions. The wet is an absolutely amazing challenge and also shows the difference in chassis dynamics. When a car is under load it behaves totally different in the wet to the Dry.
A couple
Of comments about me missing apex’s 😂 I was infact taking apex’s but they were what is commonly known as the wet line. We take a wider line to reduce the amount of steering angle which let’s the front wheels rotate more freely. Both cars were awesome and both had pros and cons as do all the cars I drive. Opinions are just that and it’s one persons preference and perspective of the car they are driving. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have 👍
solid driving man!
If the m2 was the auto version would it have been quicker off the line in the dry and around the track?
Conditions are relevant if one car is less affected. For instance if one has less power but more grip it will lose out less in the wet.
Wow thanks for the explanations, great stuff. Great driving!
sam maher loughnan
Please do a race of F90 version M5 vs the M5 competition.
I think it would get lots of views, it would be very exciting to see the actual difference of having a ‘competition’ model. Please 🙏
SPOILER: THE BMW WON THE DRAG RACE!
I literally checked the title again to see the cars, fearing that it really was a spoiler!
Silly me. 😂
Suppokid u just ruined the vid
Xd
But that's just the laptime, the important thing is driving enjoyment, which the BMW wins.
Noice
No. The BMW won! Not the BMW
Shall we acknowledge how well Mat manages those slides!!!
No.He spun the car which was the more manageable of the two in a slide situation, he's a muppet but that is his appeal and he plays to his strengths with it. I totally agree with his choice and assessment of the M2 over the M4.
Wayne Simpson Everybody spins, drifting isnt easy
@@gradyparsons6678 *Question mark,much?
@@waynesimpson2074 our m2 vs m4
th-cam.com/video/nPb5xZrU8bI/w-d-xo.html
@@waynesimpson2074still better than you i bet you dont even have a lisence or a car
Win or lose I still prefer the M2 competition. I think it's the perfect sized M car!
Aditya krishna totally agree the m2 is fun. The m4 is better for doing perfect traction laptimes.
Then the price is way less expensive and the cars all today get bigger and bigger the m2 is just the right size for fun drifting as it’s not as big as a couch landscape ;)
@@weisswurstfruhstuck8523 on the road the M4 is known for having big traction issues
th3b0untyhunter I don’t like traction anyways ;(
I agree. It's what the M3 used to be 20 years ago.
I have a m4 cus I’m a big man you have a m2 Cus your a small man. Joke
Best car channel, i swear. They give us what we want, sometimes when we don’t think of it they do it. Amazing team, amazing videos, keep it up. This channel is awesome period.
Yh doing videos in wet so clever
Facts
Yeah especially when they compare automatic vs manual gearshift cars..
BMW drag race in the wet using a manual and an automatic might as well put on part worn tyres and 5 people in the car just to make it even more stupid
HEARD OF TOP GEAR OR GRAND TOUR??
Why use different transmissions ? Now we don’t know if the variable is due to transmissions or cars- silly call boys
Every drag race the M2 is in its manual M2 vs an auto... like cmon...
You will also have slight differences in power output car to car ... would like to see a M2 CP DCT x 3 ...
They need to do just Manuals
@@vasyak9264 It would be easier to source 2 auto's nowadays. Plus, that would show the fastest potential of each car.
@@goguhu not too much actually, due to precise manufacturing and machining/blueprintring of component.
Bimmer fans crying because the BMW lost
Sebastian Larsen lol!
Honestly the M2 is the bimmer of the 2 lol
Here is the extra attention you ordered...
Audi fangirls are very happy
RealCapo88 XD
Anyone else feel like the bbc should of approached Matt to be somewhat apart of the new top gear? They’re going for laughs and views and forgetting what the show is about, Matt’s a car journalist who knows what he’s talking about, can drive, and full of laughter. Perfect for the job
agree, why the need to put him there though?
I’m too addicted to this channel 😂
Exotic Hyperbeast Sameeee
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M4 all day. Wow what a beautiful machine. Absolutely love the M4 competition pack!
@@suhailjamil3909 ok
Suhail Jamil ok
@@suhailjamil3909 You come off like a massive tool lmfao, and this is coming from someone who also has an M4
M4 is a beast! But M2 is great for its price...✌️
I'd say that the m2 is perfect
price on the side , m4 looking better than m2 , but when money is the key then m2 took a victory
@@AleksTheLittleOne agree✌️
@@souyas175 the same engineers made two great cars on each budget ✌️
Great for price? 60k isnt that cheap bruh
The M2 comp produce 405 bhp (410ps) but some are showing over 420 bhp standard on a dyno - l think Mat would have won that drag race if he had DCT instead of manual - must admit l would struggle to choose which one - l love both of them !! Keep up the good work 👍
M2 is more fun coz manual and smaller size XD 🤘🏻😁
Hoss Cartwright you can get both in manual.
@Retro Collected M4 Comp weights 1645 Kg L / B/ H in mm
4671 / 1870 / 1383 - M2 Comp weights 1625 Kg L / B / H in mm
4461 / 1854 / 1410 ...... I don.t see the Muscle Car difference...U?
@Retro Collected muscle cars weigh at least like 400 kilograms more and m4 is beautifly styled
@Retro Collected they weigh almost the same?
@@vedaiken the guys who say the M4 is much heavier,are just regurgitating what they heard form everybody else,witch is false idea,ppl just don't think for themselves or fact check anymore,also they are the same people who don't even drive aggressive or close to limit,they just like the ideas about the car to talk about
I'd take the M4. It's such an amazing and good looking car. By far my favorite M car.
1:16
BMW driver in full beam how original
LOL.
Sunaipa LLC what an original comment
As original as your stereotype about bmw drivers
Seems like we got two BMW drivers here
@@HnK_Alex Are you shit Audi=VW driver?
can't wait for a BMW M5 competition vs a BMW M850i vs a BMW M760Li drag race.
1. m5 comp
2. m760li
3. M850i
when the M8 comes out it will take the top spot
I want m5 f90 vs m5 f90 Competition just to see the actual difference in real life.
m5 comp will destroy the 850 and 760
A Aaa come to South Africa some time, I can organize a M3CP, M4CS, M5, M5 CP
ForzaWild just simply record it and put on TH-cam for me. 😝
the best car youTube channel after the OLD TOP GEAR
For real
True
Check out our m2 and m4 in city
th-cam.com/video/nPb5xZrU8bI/w-d-xo.html
Who knew Mat is a DK. That drifting was sweet af brother
Those track laps look like you guys were driving on ice. Great video as always, Mat!
6:27 I immediately hit subscribe when I saw that drift 😮💨
I love these drag races... I also really enjoyed that Model 3 Performance review yesterday 🥰💙
a race on the track with the Model 3 would be nice. Currious if it can beat the time done by the M 2
Personal tastes, but I like the M2 better. Smaller, lighter, more compact.
But the M4 will have more street cred to the uninitiated.
Definitely. I agree. More chuckable. And maybe more reliable too as the m4 is notorious.
I need to earn more, and buy myself an m4 lol
Hi2len Duffy yea never sell that godly evo
BWG no I won’t 😂
i know my dream car too! i have a e92 335d remapped to 370bhp so a logical step just need to start saving!
Hi2len Duffy goos
Check my M4 CP bro with Awesome specs :)
I'm really impressed by Mat's drifting skills!
A big shout out to the power drift. Could have been in M Town 👍
how much fun? Matt in M4 - no smile, Matt in M2 - can't stop giggling
The BMW M2 is my dream car😻
Wanele Mlangeni that’s a terrible dream. M4🖤
@@Z0R038 M3 > M4, because it's the same car, but practical.
Bmw m8 4ever
But i like black m6 too with black rims
@Vinny Booboo dont be afraid to dream a little bigger
@Vinny Booboo nice pun m8
Bmw m2 competition manual vs bmw m4 competition auto?!
I think the M2 in the UK tends to be manual.
Matt drag race the X3 M40i SQ5 and the GLC 43AMG please 🙏
tonkguy *X3M Competition
SQ5 will lose
Cuz they didn't make a RSQ5
tonkguy or RSQ5 when they make it and the X3M with the GLC 63 AMG
glc63s?? GLC43 isn't quick at all really.
I'd take M4 cause of more muscular look and greater size 😍...
This is awesome and i love these drag races you guys always do, but i will never understand why you always put manuals up against automatics, it never works out good for the manuals. I remember the first time i personally saw this happening was the M2 vs Mustang video where you ended up using the Manual Mustang and a DCT M2, it's always just that bit nicer seeing a more fair, even race where both cars aren't limited by their ability to shift and rather the rest of the car
We run the cars we have available to us from BMW. In a perfect would they would have had the same gearbox.
I love the M4 looks, specially the front end, but I would take the M2 Comp any day. Size and price, + with a simple tune I could make same power easily.
760M Lİ VS M5 COMPETITION
M4 is so fuckin beautiful, the perfect balance in terms of overall looks. M2 looks tiny and M5's and above are too big. If only BMW didnt put basically the same M2 engine into the M4...it deserved some next generation 4.0 v8 from e92 or smth like that...
Not saying he did, but don't use the launch control in the wet - just floor it.
No that's stupid
OXDerValentinXO
His probably used to having traction control on.
Why?
Why test a less powerful manual car against a more powerful Auto! Very fair test
This is my most favourite drag race on carwow yet. 🚦🚗🚙
Wonderful drift performance from Matt. You drove very well in corners M4 and M2..
Literally anyone can drift a bmw! The ultimate driving machine!!
I agree with Matt. The M2 reminds me of the previous 'best' M car - the E30 M3.
That m2 comp is how I feel about my 330ci. The feel you get in it.
I nearly bought a 330ci after I sold my 130i, but it just felt a bit too slow in comparison. Looked great though, and I like the way the interior was made for the driver.
M2 Competition is a rock star. In the dry I bet the M2C would have won as it’s balance is just better than the much larger M4C. The longer wheelbase of the M4C is a huge advantage in the sloppy wet.
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to still get top comments on an unrelated video.
Go back to jre videos
Given this choice: The smaller M2! However, I way prefer the RS3 Sportback. Being a hatchback & having 4-wheel-drive, much more practical!
Nobody:
Jk Rowling: Harry Potter drove a bmw in the series.
The second thing i did with my M4 Competition was an exhaust kit and the PIECE DE RISTANCE wide Michelin PS4s. you can squeeze 295 on rear and 285 on the front. The tires made all the difference for this car and you can finally put the power down.
Why is the m4 in efficient mode 🤦🏽♂️
Probably because in sport plus the throttle is sharp and all the torque comes instantly with the slightest touch and that's the last thing you want when is that wet
1:23 m2 also in efficient
Both are THE Reference for active Drivers; so as in the Compact-Class and also in the Middle-Class.
Come on Man!! Redo it with dry weather conditions plz!!!!!!!!!!
Not fair.... plain and simple..
The M4 is a good looking car but the shorter proportions of the smaller M2 five it a much meaner, muscular look that I prefer. I’d have the M2.
Love you carwow,u changed my life I'm the biggest far enthusiast now! Cuz of u
So you love fars.
@Archit Anand not funny.
@Archit Anand you were right then.
T.A. Fernando it is funny fucking nerd
get a life 😂😂😂😂
Same torque but more power just means the M4 revs higher, which is what I care about, and if you can still get it with a proper gearbox that must be a riot!
Important things I'd like to know that weren't covered: which has the lower seating position? Quicker steering ratio? Redline? Room for how many tyres in the back with the seats down? Cabrio versions? Electronic or real handbrake?
It's unfair to have a manual v automatic. But tbh, the bmw m2 did really well eventhough it's manual
1:36 when Mat let's his foot off the pedal. 😂
Why does the BMW always lose on this channel?
They are sponsored by Audi apparently
CPTLYNXY lol triggered bring my wallet fanboy.
@@dogchainsaw3923 I own a rs3 mate lol k.
@@dogchainsaw3923 poor
M2 all day, every day. I fell in love with that car the moment they announced. Having owned E30's I look forward to the day of getting to own/drive one!
Yeah you understand it!! I think one day you will drive your own M2!😍
*///M* power
You guys should come out and film in California where it NEVER rains!
Hey Matt, slight problem with the Carwow website;
the side menu is completely blank unless you got to the homepage first. Just wanted to let you (your website designers) know ;)
Omg 2 likes and a love
I literally just start watching this channel few days ago...and I got addicted to it...I just love these drag races and all the information...it's superb❣️
You can tune an M2 comp to be just as fast as the M4. It has the same engine and is much cheaper
You guys need to do it over again. The rain is dramatically effecting traction! Difficult to quantify the times.
I think now it’s only called “Competition” without the “Pack”
The top gear of TH-cam
Mat I didn't know you could drive so well. Great drifting 👍🏾👍🏾
M2, M3 and the M4 all three have a neck to neck competetion when it comes to drifting.....I would go for the M2 for the weekend fun but for track day....it's the M3 and the M4
WHY Both car in Efficient mode ? and auto vs manuel is not fair :(
I love the drag races but stop comparing manual to auto if you can get an auto version of that car...
So would you rather have had no video at all?
I agree with your final comments about the cars. I bought the M4 Competition, because it was to be my daily. Also, the longer wheelbase on our horrid roads made for a slightly less choppy ride
Damn, I wanna learn to drift like that someday😍😍
Awesome job mat
Drifting comes naturally, jump in something with an lsd and give it a go, in the wet it's just a matter of knowing how much opposite lock is needed and control the slide with your right foot, practice on track or even in a field, You'd be amazed what you could do in just a few hours of practice.
That's a very good test, drag, lap time, drift session. You're very good drifter aswell👏 Thank you for all your videos, with this good atmosphere, and interesting duels. From France ✌️
Can you actually get an even match-up instead of just putting any cars you can get your hands on?
Great to see M cars being driven on the edge and racing driver guy was using all his skills, which along with the very cool and skilled drift stuff makes this video and this Chanel stand out from the others.
Correction BMW M2 Competition vs BMW M4 Competition Pack !!!
That M4 looked so good sideways around the track
Bmw❤️❤️
Audi❤️❤️
Mercedes❤️❤️
BMW ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Audi ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Mercedes benz❤️❤️❤️
Mat is the only one that knows how to launch a BMW
why even do these test when its raining like for real
Mat is the new drift king 😂😎👌🏿 wicked video. I’d have the M2 every day of the week.
1:22 why you have putted the m2 on efficient rather than Sport plus?
Uhoh, this kinda undermines the video lol
There's always one bitching about this in every video.
The engine actually makes the same power regardless of mode. It just chances noise and response at part throttle, which is irrelevant in a race where it's WOT all the way.
These guys are tryna sell cars on carwow but I kinda want this to become a top gear/ grand tour type show with mat and Doug demure which most likley won’t happen and yannimize
Mat is actually a a pretty good show host
Re-do this on a sunny day when you actually have freakin traction. This is silly
Didn't know you were such a good driver Matt, that was some good drifting
Audi RS any Audi from RS line rips any MB or BMW from the equivalent trim.
It's the stig!
Quizás por que es manual..🙄
Can we see a BMW race between M6, M5, M4, and M2 with all cars in the Competition Pack trim? Or between the M5 Comp, M4 CS, M4 Comp, and/or M2 CS/Comp.
Basic Mathematics says the M4 is twice the M2.
Lets see the equation
Have do that test again in the dry sometime with two DCT cars, love the channel 👍🏼
Next to me, I have YIANNIMIZE
I would enjoy a review of that M2 !
I love the BMW F82 M4...it is one of my dream cars... I want one so badly
TH-cams addition to two 5second ads before video starts I SOOO ANNOYING!!
Please please please make more vids like this one! And comparing more cars on the track. That was awesome!
Matt's driving is tasty. Fair play dude
Video is dope, never a dull moment with carwow
Manual vs DCT, great job carwow.......
Do a race between the M2 VS the M240i
In about a weeks time Calvin's Car Diary is going to test M135i stage 2 vs M2 Stage 2
The best channel. From Spain. Thanks.
5:51 That is one sick edit!