There is Roman documentation of Jesus. Look up "A letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar" which describes the physical appearance of Jesus. This document is in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C
@@Freddy78909 it was written in the fourth century, and it’s considered a ‘historical drama’ rather than actual history by scholars. There. I did the search and as I said, you’re a liar. Next bs christian lie?
@@brooks3376 I found it on the library of congress website. YT won't allow me to post a link but it is loc (dot) gov (forward slash) item (forward slash) 05000008 (forward slash)
There were no eyewitnesses of Christ's resurrection. Early Christian writers fabricated the resurrection hoax by making up fake backdated testimonials that the disciples & 500 others have witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Christ. Thy religion has got thou duped. 🤣🤣🤣
@@jeff4truth Hi! As someone from a Soviet culture (now an immigrant in the USA) I believe that the resurrection was staged by the Romans, as explained in a popular book where I'm from - "The Gospel of Afranius"; like many others, I read it in childhood and never thought about this question again - until coming to the USA and noticing a stark contrast in the discussion of this question. What's wrong with that explanation? Also, I believe matter is eternal - it can only move and change but not appear from nowhere - seems like common sense to me, but apparently not here in the US, what's wrong with that?
@@valinorean4816 The Bible is completely unreliable. God does not speak to humans, even if he exists. God also must enjoy pain and suffering if he exists.
@@jeff4truth I'm a fellow atheist, but I think the Bible is not 100% fiction. Basically, one argument is that no one would make up the super embarrassing parts like when J says that he would return within that generation and when he couldn't cure a guy on the first try; even Christopher Hitchens once said that since they clumsily tried to make it look like J was born in Bethlehem in fulfillment of the messianic prophecy even though he is from Nazareth is itself an argument that the part that he is from Nazareth was not made up, because if you're making up the whole thing entirely then you would have him be from Bethlehem to begin with!
@@jeff4truth I'm a fellow atheist, but I think the Bible is not 100% fiction. Basically, one argument is that no one would make up the super embarrassing parts like when J says that he would return within that generation and when he couldn't cure a guy on the first try
I would read it but you have just read all of that off a computer screen, I would rather read a book written by someone who actually knows what he is talking about rather than reading off a screen. If you were passionate about your beliefs against god make a little more effort to learn what your talking about first. Anyone can read off a screen
Also the fact you are talking against a woman’s views is suspect 1 Corinthians 11:3-12, 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and Titus 1, 2. These passages are the foundation for the conclusion that women cannot be lead pastors in churches. Hence the reason any case this lady puts forward is not worth listening to if you wish to have a proper debate try talking to someone who knows what they are talking about.
Hay Jeff, don’t think I’ll take your word for it, I’ll take my chances in believing in Jesus as the Lord and Saviour. And if people think I’m wasting my time, look in the fucking mirror, your time is running out.
@@SteveShaw-o2d if Jesus is God, then he created the Judaic religion, correct? Why would you think he hates religion, when Jesus said not one part of the Law (religion) would change? Read your bible.
@@jeff4truth I wouldn't want that inaccurate trash even if it were free. Even if you paid me to take it. you did zero research. Read Letter of Pilate to Tiberius, or the antiquities of the jews. Josephus the historian wrote about it. Pliny the younger wrote about it. The Romans wrote about him. The Jews and the Romans both wrote about him. and you come and say its all fake. Your sources are trash.
If Jesus was really such an important rebel pastor who threatened the foundations of Jewish society so much so that the Jews agitated for the Romans to put him to death, why weren't the records of his life and death kept by the Romans? They kept many detailed records of historical events, that's how we know so much about them. They kept records of other rebels, (real, true actual rebels who actually lived like Spartacus) and that is why we know about them. The Romans would have been very proud of putting such a dangerous rebel leader to death, and would have recorded it to show their power, not covered it up. The Jews would have recorded it or passed it down in their oral history, as they do with all the festivals they celebrate which are associated with their various uprisings and triumphs. Not a peep out of either the Romans or the Jews about this dangerous rebel figure who supposedly threatened the status quo in the first century. I wonder why? Could it be, drum roll please 🥁 -- he didn't exist? 😱
Psalms 22 was written 1,000 years before Jesus was crucified on a cross . 1 Corinthians 15:6 “After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
about 90% of scholars actually say he definitely existed and was crucified i believe in Jesus in his mighty name may you see the actual truth not your idea of truth the actual truth i feel bad for you we have eyewitness accounts. Prove its false then bud go ahead. ❤
@@jeff4truth lol 😂 you can't win against God my firend you don't understand what you are talking about Jesus is not false. It breaks my heart to see you so angry at God you don't give evidence 96% of scholars disagree with you
Jeff holds biased oppinions and disregards the facts through lack of knowledge. There are parchments of the Bible that were written before Christ was born. And its obvious that most of the New Testament writers lived during the life of Christ. Some lived with him, travelled with him and were eye witnesses of his teaching and his miracles.
Jeff, Let me dig in further. Are you 100% convinced your position is correct? Do you believe anyone existed in ancient history? If you do believe someone existed during those times, what is your research and massive evidence to prove that those people existed?
Jeff is also assuming / maybe / would be ! Another wate of time time ! True all the details of Jesus we get it from New Testament! Not any other book! Ginormous gnostic book no no ! Pathetic! These people! Pathetic
@@beowulfthedane THATS TRUE, BUT THE SON OF GOD IS HIS GODLY NATURE, THE SON OF MAN WAS HIS HUMAN NATURE, AND HE DID SAY HE WAS GOD, WHEN SATAN TRIED TO TEMP HIM, JESUS SAID "DO NOT TEMPT THY LORD THY (((GOD)))
@@beowulfthedane CAN YOU RESPOND ??? CAN YOU SHOW ME A VERSE JESUS SAID HE WAS THE SON OF MARY??? GOD IS JESUS AND HAS NO MOTHER, MARY WAS A VIRGIN, WHO HAD NO PARTNER= NO BABY, JESUS WAS BORN FROM A MIRACLE, NOT A MOTHER,SO DHIMMI GO WOBBLE YOUR HEAD AND STOP CRYING
In fact most scholars are now saying that people were praying to Yahweh and there was a religion to Yahweh long long before the word Jesus ever appeared all they did was change the word Yahweh to Jesus
In the old testament gods personal name was yahwey or YHWY, jesus name was alsi mentioned in the old testament and his names yashua, its Hebrew and translated to Greek, English its jesus
You see I rather err on the side of caution and not burn in hell rather than make blasphemous videos for entertainment purposes that’ll have me burning in hell forever without forgiveness. I’m not judging I’m just saying . I also rather enjoy having Jesus in my life and society as well. I was once a real live monster God changed that. No thumbs up or down this don’t seem safe so I’m outta here…
@@jeff4truth I see the fallacy in your argument. You actually would expect some sort of discrepancy in historical sources, as human bias and misinformation are unavoidable. On the other hand, your argument would tear down almost the entire historical record. Would you argue based on the same assumption that Pythagoras, Socrates, and almost any historical figure, didn’t exist? There seems to be more records of Jesus than of many well-accepted personalities. I point out straight what is the real reason to disqualify the historicity of Jesus: you cannot accept the supernatural. His story has supernatural elements that would destroy any human perspectives. He cured the ill? He opened the eyes of the blind? He restored the hearing of the deaf? He rose from the dead? This HAS TO BE false. Isn’t it?
@@jeff4truth What I believe is irrelevant to the argument. But let us assume that Superman is a subject of historical debate, let’s say in 2000 years time. What would good historians look for? Are the stories of Superman consistent among each other? I remember reading of Superman becoming a dictator, and then in another place he was a pacifist. He was a super powerful guy in the old comics, then became comparably weak, then string again. There are many discrepancies in the general description of the character. Can Superman be objectively located in space and time in the real world? We all understand that Gotham and Metropolis cities, Kripton planet, and so on, do not really exist. Would someone from the future arrive to the conclusion that these places are real after reading the comic books? I doubt it, unless they are bad historians. On the contrary, Jesus is well contextualized in a real environment. But for the sake of the argument, let us assume that someone will accept the story of Superman as the truth. Let us think that these people believe that Superman really exists, has super powers and can save us in extravagant ways as depicted in the comic books. Would these people bet their own lives on such believe, even to the pint of martyrdom? I am not sure of that. But the record shows that not only the people contemporary to Jesus willingly underwent excruciating deaths defending that what they said was true, but also many people afterwards that believed on the gospel. Would supermanians die for their believes? That is what a serious historian should be asking, not that I don’t accept the evidence because it doesn’t fit my world view.
Atheist evangelists. Amusing. If I were an atheist, I wouldn't waste my time. But when you encounter Jesus Christ, who is the creator of all things in the flesh, the historical skepticism is totally moot.
@jeff4truth You need us to be insane or your life would have to change drastically. I know. But without God, there could be no space time matter or energy, no universe. No life. No thoughts to have about atheism. God is inevitable philosophically, spiritually, morally and is absolutely necessary. You should be very skeptical of your own certainty, seeing how illogical it is to be that certain that you know there is no God. I find it telling of an ulterior motive.
@@Thomas-gb6zs If there is a God, it is not the God in the Bible. I know the Bible is just a collection of human lies. If God created the universe, God wants to remain anonymous. Any God you worship is the wrong one.
VERY EASY TO THUMBS THIS DOWN, EVEN THE QURAN SAID JESUS LIVED
Bro...thats not a credible book to refer to...😂
Don't be a kid. Jesus never existed
There is Roman documentation of Jesus. Look up "A letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar" which describes the physical appearance of Jesus. This document is in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C
@@Freddy78909 how does it feel to be a liar?
@@brooks3376 How does it feel to not be able to do a basic internet search?
@@Freddy78909 it was written in the fourth century, and it’s considered a ‘historical drama’ rather than actual history by scholars. There. I did the search and as I said, you’re a liar. Next bs christian lie?
@@brooks3376 I found it on the library of congress website. YT won't allow me to post a link but it is loc (dot) gov (forward slash) item (forward slash) 05000008 (forward slash)
@@brooks3376 You're copy pasting from Quora and the document you refer to "from the fourth century" is not the same one
There were no eyewitnesses of Christ's resurrection. Early Christian writers fabricated the resurrection hoax by making up fake backdated testimonials that the disciples & 500 others have witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Christ. Thy religion has got thou duped. 🤣🤣🤣
So according to this lady the best evidence we have of the claims made in the New Testament, are the claims made in the New Testament.
@@captainkelley2339 Correct 😆
@@jeff4truth Hi! As someone from a Soviet culture (now an immigrant in the USA) I believe that the resurrection was staged by the Romans, as explained in a popular book where I'm from - "The Gospel of Afranius"; like many others, I read it in childhood and never thought about this question again - until coming to the USA and noticing a stark contrast in the discussion of this question. What's wrong with that explanation? Also, I believe matter is eternal - it can only move and change but not appear from nowhere - seems like common sense to me, but apparently not here in the US, what's wrong with that?
@@valinorean4816 The Bible is completely unreliable. God does not speak to humans, even if he exists. God also must enjoy pain and suffering if he exists.
@@jeff4truth I'm a fellow atheist, but I think the Bible is not 100% fiction. Basically, one argument is that no one would make up the super embarrassing parts like when J says that he would return within that generation and when he couldn't cure a guy on the first try; even Christopher Hitchens once said that since they clumsily tried to make it look like J was born in Bethlehem in fulfillment of the messianic prophecy even though he is from Nazareth is itself an argument that the part that he is from Nazareth was not made up, because if you're making up the whole thing entirely then you would have him be from Bethlehem to begin with!
@@jeff4truth I'm a fellow atheist, but I think the Bible is not 100% fiction. Basically, one argument is that no one would make up the super embarrassing parts like when J says that he would return within that generation and when he couldn't cure a guy on the first try
I would read it but you have just read all of that off a computer screen, I would rather read a book written by someone who actually knows what he is talking about rather than reading off a screen. If you were passionate about your beliefs against god make a little more effort to learn what your talking about first. Anyone can read off a screen
Also the fact you are talking against a woman’s views is suspect 1 Corinthians 11:3-12, 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and Titus 1, 2. These passages are the foundation for the conclusion that women cannot be lead pastors in churches. Hence the reason any case this lady puts forward is not worth listening to if you wish to have a proper debate try talking to someone who knows what they are talking about.
@@Bible.Study.101 I was reading the script I wrote for this video. Jesus Demigod will blow your mind, but you are not ready for truth.
@@jeff4truthor maybe it is you that’s not, I will buy your book and read it, and get back to you with my review,
@@jeff4truth I read your book, and I must say it is very good fiction, but can be torn apart with very little effort
Hay Jeff, don’t think I’ll take your word for it, I’ll take my chances in believing in Jesus as the Lord and Saviour. And if people think I’m wasting my time, look in the fucking mirror, your time is running out.
Everyone's time is running out fear mongerer.
If that is your criteria for truth, any religion is true.
@@brooks3376could be truth in all religions , like what the fuck do we really know.
Believing in Jesus ain’t a religion.
@@SteveShaw-o2d if Jesus is God, then he created the Judaic religion, correct? Why would you think he hates religion, when Jesus said not one part of the Law (religion) would change? Read your bible.
@@brooks3376
Where did I say Jesus hates religion.
That's was thoroughly enjoyable Mister Jeff, I do intend to buy your book , things are tight at the moment tho 😊
@@tomdavis9236 are you on TikTok? I may do a free book giveaway promotion soon.
@@jeff4truth👍🏾👍🏾
@@jeff4truth I wouldn't want that inaccurate trash even if it were free. Even if you paid me to take it. you did zero research. Read Letter of Pilate to Tiberius, or the antiquities of the jews. Josephus the historian wrote about it. Pliny the younger wrote about it. The Romans wrote about him. The Jews and the Romans both wrote about him. and you come and say its all fake. Your sources are trash.
If Jesus was really such an important rebel pastor who threatened the foundations of Jewish society so much so that the Jews agitated for the Romans to put him to death, why weren't the records of his life and death kept by the Romans? They kept many detailed records of historical events, that's how we know so much about them. They kept records of other rebels, (real, true actual rebels who actually lived like Spartacus) and that is why we know about them.
The Romans would have been very proud of putting such a dangerous rebel leader to death, and would have recorded it to show their power, not covered it up. The Jews would have recorded it or passed it down in their oral history, as they do with all the festivals they celebrate which are associated with their various uprisings and triumphs. Not a peep out of either the Romans or the Jews about this dangerous rebel figure who supposedly threatened the status quo in the first century. I wonder why? Could it be, drum roll please 🥁 -- he didn't exist? 😱
@@extemporaneous4545 yep
@@jeff4truth proofs in quran , allah saved jesus did he not,lol, what a joke ,islam is
@@jeff4truth jesus was so important to allah ,that he saved jesus, but muhammad ??? check mate
They are trying to take the spot of actual experts who affirm the Historicity of Jesus whose debate has been settled a long time ago.
I can tell, just from the inflections in your voice, that you're not a very academic person.
James, Peter and John all wrote epistles as well and were contemporaries of Jesus and Paul.
@beowulfthedane Nothing ever written was written by an eyewitness to Jesus, because Jesus was never real.
@@jeff4truth 1 Peter, 2 Peter, James. There is archeological evidence. Jesus was a common name. Yeshua Ben Yosef existed, and IMO is GOD.
Psalms 22 was written 1,000 years before Jesus was crucified on a cross .
1 Corinthians 15:6
“After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
They are right, there was no one named Jesus at that time, because his name was YESHUA.
@@MRInvi5ible There was no Yeshua Bible character at all. They created Jesus from philosophy and literature.
Self interpreted stories by accusers without any concrete evidences.😂
about 90% of scholars actually say he definitely existed and was crucified i believe in Jesus in his mighty name may you see the actual truth not your idea of truth the actual truth i feel bad for you we have eyewitness accounts. Prove its false then bud go ahead. ❤
@troybradley8647 I prove Christianity false everyday. John 14:12-14 proves Jesus is false.
@@jeff4truth lol 😂 you can't win against God my firend you don't understand what you are talking about Jesus is not false. It breaks my heart to see you so angry at God you don't give evidence 96% of scholars disagree with you
This reminds me to be thankful for free speech in Canada where I live it's under attack how can society work if we can't disagree
Jeff holds biased oppinions and disregards the facts through lack of knowledge. There are parchments of the Bible that were written before Christ was born. And its obvious that most of the New Testament writers lived during the life of Christ. Some lived with him, travelled with him and were eye witnesses of his teaching and his miracles.
@@davidarmstrong9744 funny joke
Jeff you too will bend the knee to the Messiah when he returns. And anything you say to offend him he will have you pay with interest.
@optimumpcyt Jesus is fake, he will never return, I will never bow to your fake god, and I am not afraid of your evil, vain threats.
@@jeff4truth so who is your God? Nevermind. I think somebody like you don't believe in God anyway.
Well, she's blonde.
JUST LIKE YOUR MOTHER
Jeff, Let me dig in further. Are you 100% convinced your position is correct? Do you believe anyone existed in ancient history? If you do believe someone existed during those times, what is your research and massive evidence to prove that those people existed?
@@andyosei3374 I am fully convinced I am right. "PEOPLE" in history likely existed, but "GODS" are fictional. It is that simple.
He went from us, for he NEVER from us.
I think there maybe some truth to what she's saying, but i think its more associated with you idea of him being an ideology.
This guy is smarter then Saint Thomas.
she is 1 sick person pray fir her
Jeff is also assuming / maybe / would be ! Another wate of time time !
True all the details of Jesus we get it from New Testament!
Not any other book! Ginormous gnostic book no no !
Pathetic! These people! Pathetic
💯
Jesus never said he was God, he said he was the Son of God
He said he was the Son of Man. Read Daniel's description of the son of man.
@@beowulfthedane THATS TRUE, BUT THE SON OF GOD IS HIS GODLY NATURE, THE SON OF MAN WAS HIS HUMAN NATURE, AND HE DID SAY HE WAS GOD, WHEN SATAN TRIED TO TEMP HIM, JESUS SAID "DO NOT TEMPT THY LORD THY (((GOD)))
@@beowulfthedane JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SON OF MARY
@@pigmeatishambacon Do you expect a response?
@@beowulfthedane CAN YOU RESPOND ??? CAN YOU SHOW ME A VERSE JESUS SAID HE WAS THE SON OF MARY??? GOD IS JESUS AND HAS NO MOTHER, MARY WAS A VIRGIN, WHO HAD NO PARTNER= NO BABY, JESUS WAS BORN FROM A MIRACLE, NOT A MOTHER,SO DHIMMI GO WOBBLE YOUR HEAD AND STOP CRYING
Your still looking for evidence....
Which is what an honest person would do
Bunch of BS to sell his book.. 😂😂😂😂
In fact most scholars are now saying that people were praying to Yahweh and there was a religion to Yahweh long long before the word Jesus ever appeared all they did was change the word Yahweh to Jesus
In the old testament gods personal name was yahwey or YHWY, jesus name was alsi mentioned in the old testament and his names yashua, its Hebrew and translated to Greek, English its jesus
Even if jesus exists, he sure is useless.
I understand what you've been going through. Satan wants you to think that Jesus is useless, but someday, you'll realize what the truth about Jesus is
JUST LIKE YOUR FATHER
You see I rather err on the side of caution and not burn in hell rather than make blasphemous videos for entertainment purposes that’ll have me burning in hell forever without forgiveness. I’m not judging I’m just saying . I also rather enjoy having Jesus in my life and society as well. I was once a real live monster God changed that. No thumbs up or down this don’t seem safe so I’m outta here…
Hahaha, what is a good evidence for you, dude?
@alexanderseton IT would help if Josephus validated the Bible characters instead of testify against them.
@@jeff4truth I see the fallacy in your argument. You actually would expect some sort of discrepancy in historical sources, as human bias and misinformation are unavoidable. On the other hand, your argument would tear down almost the entire historical record. Would you argue based on the same assumption that Pythagoras, Socrates, and almost any historical figure, didn’t exist? There seems to be more records of Jesus than of many well-accepted personalities.
I point out straight what is the real reason to disqualify the historicity of Jesus: you cannot accept the supernatural. His story has supernatural elements that would destroy any human perspectives. He cured the ill? He opened the eyes of the blind? He restored the hearing of the deaf? He rose from the dead? This HAS TO BE false. Isn’t it?
@alexanderseton many people Superman too. Do you believe Superman is real?
@@jeff4truth What I believe is irrelevant to the argument. But let us assume that Superman is a subject of historical debate, let’s say in 2000 years time. What would good historians look for?
Are the stories of Superman consistent among each other? I remember reading of Superman becoming a dictator, and then in another place he was a pacifist. He was a super powerful guy in the old comics, then became comparably weak, then string again. There are many discrepancies in the general description of the character.
Can Superman be objectively located in space and time in the real world? We all understand that Gotham and Metropolis cities, Kripton planet, and so on, do not really exist. Would someone from the future arrive to the conclusion that these places are real after reading the comic books? I doubt it, unless they are bad historians. On the contrary, Jesus is well contextualized in a real environment.
But for the sake of the argument, let us assume that someone will accept the story of Superman as the truth. Let us think that these people believe that Superman really exists, has super powers and can save us in extravagant ways as depicted in the comic books. Would these people bet their own lives on such believe, even to the pint of martyrdom? I am not sure of that. But the record shows that not only the people contemporary to Jesus willingly underwent excruciating deaths defending that what they said was true, but also many people afterwards that believed on the gospel. Would supermanians die for their believes? That is what a serious historian should be asking, not that I don’t accept the evidence because it doesn’t fit my world view.
@@alexanderseton Do Muslims die for the truth? Dieing for Jesus only demonstrates that Jesus couldn't save them.
Atheist evangelists. Amusing. If I were an atheist, I wouldn't waste my time. But when you encounter Jesus Christ, who is the creator of all things in the flesh, the historical skepticism is totally moot.
@@Thomas-gb6zs No one will ever meet Jesus because he is not real.
@jeff4truth Too late. Me and millions of others have. You can't deny our real experience and our testimony.
@@Thomas-gb6zs I do deny your testimony. You are all insane with an invisible fake god.
@jeff4truth You need us to be insane or your life would have to change drastically. I know. But without God, there could be no space time matter or energy, no universe. No life. No thoughts to have about atheism. God is inevitable philosophically, spiritually, morally and is absolutely necessary. You should be very skeptical of your own certainty, seeing how illogical it is to be that certain that you know there is no God. I find it telling of an ulterior motive.
@@Thomas-gb6zs If there is a God, it is not the God in the Bible. I know the Bible is just a collection of human lies. If God created the universe, God wants to remain anonymous. Any God you worship is the wrong one.