I still choose to have faith in God till the end and beyond, but I really appreciate your channel for a good healthy opposing view. I always try to be open minded the best I can. So thanks sir
4:50 "Everyone who wrote about Jesus said he was a supernatural person". Well said. This is why the gospels are such weak historical evidence. If you look a the book of Mark (on which Luke & Matthew were based) there is not one single chapter that is free of supernatural claims that no free-thinking scholar would say could actually happen. There may be some historical kernel in there, but even if there is, it is utterly overwhelmed with fictitious myth making.
Jeff, your video is the best I've seen to refute the authenticity of jesus as man\god '' savior ''. Unfortunately, a considerable percentage of people operate on an emotional appeal level rather than on a rational, logical one and would rather simply believe what they want to, whatever makes them feel good, so they have no use for your information. Anyway thanks for speaking what really matters to people like me -- the truth.
Matthew, Mark Luke and John- King Herod Antipas, had wanted to see Jesus for a long time, hoping to observe one of the miracles of Jesus. However, Jesus says nothing in response to Herod's questions, or the vehement accusations of the chief priests and the scribes. Soldiers put a gorgeous robe on Jesus, mocking him as King of the Jews, and send him back to Pilate. That day, Herod and Pilate, who had previously been enemies, become friends. Sad that people have to earn a living by ridiculing the good.
@joandark2 And Superman flew so fast around earth in the opposite direction of earth's rotation, he turned back time and saved Lois Lane from the earthquake. Quoting a horseshit book does not mean anything.
First of all, I don’t know of any Wise Author that claims I’m Alive and I’m the Author of this trustworthy book but I will NEVER APPEAR to clear the debates I’m WATCHING continually done for years. Isn’t it actually this One who has to show up and clear the tons of debates of his book!?😅
Over the past decade, I have observed over 20 preachers/teachers abandon their faith and embrace atheism after studying Full Preterism. Could you create a video exploring why Full Preterism often leads to Isreal Only, Universalism, and atheism?
The letters of Paul do not mention the destruction of the temple in 70 AD followed by the end of the nation of Israel. Seems strange that a Jewish writer would omit a nation ending event like that.
@@edwardvan5808 Romans 11:11 mentions the fall of Israel. When Paul says the law ended, that is also a reference to 70 CE. Paul's letters were ALL written after Paul was dead. Weird.
@@jeff4truth In Rom 11:11 Paul is explaining the salvation message moving into the Gentile world, without the Jewish law. He is not describing a political fall. Paul starts his letters "Paul a bond servant of Christ..." It is reasonable to assume he wrote them while alive.
@@edwardvan5808 IT is not reasonable to think God told men what to write down when there are contradictions all throughout the Bible. You have to be completely brainwashed to believe the Bible is true.
@@jeff4truth Years of scriptural study including ancient cultural practices and analyzing the available data to arrive at a conclusion is not brainwashing. The Bible is the inerrant word of God. This word is misunderstood as applied to scripture. As described in scripture, God's character, his judgments and mercy, His divine nature, His plans for his creation, who God is, are constant and inerrant from beginning to end for 1400 years. This is not man sourced. Surrounding this is standard historical reporting which includes hyperbole, exaggeration and multiple scourced eyewitness accounts which include many variances, not contradictions. Typical human reporting of historical events.
@@jeff4truth Years of scriptural study including ancient cultural practices and analyzing the available data to arrive at a conclusion is not brainwashing. The Bible is the inerrant word of God. This word is misunderstood as applied to scripture. As described in scripture, God's character, his judgments and mercy, His divine nature, His plans for his creation, who God is, are constant and inerrant from beginning to end for 1400 years. Surrounding this is standard historical reporting which includes hyperbole, exaggeration and multiple scourced eyewitness accounts which include many variances, not contradictions. Typical human reporting of historical events.
But you have to take it one step further. It didn't work with the Jews. They didn't bite. So why did the Romans keep this fictional character around and continue promoting him? Because he was just too good to throw away. They used this fantasy to unify their vast Roman empire which had so many tribes worshipping so many different gods. They replaced Saturnalia and Sol Invictus with Christmas. They incorporated pagan myths into this rollicking yarn. There's one that I'm prevented from writing about on this app, which is how this fake fantasy character was conceived -- that's straight from so many pagan cultures. Turning water into wine comes from a Roman story. Walking on water comes from Hinduism. And because the Jews were the only tribe not to submit to being forcibly converted to this fake religion, they were the ones who continued to be persecuted in Europe through the centuries.
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m Where's your proof of this "Christ"? Where's your proof of my "sin"? Oh, because you say so. Who the hell are you to decide what is sin, when your "Christ" doesn't exist except in your farts. You are the real sinner here for lying. I speak facts. I tell the truth about your fake fictional fantasy figure in whose name so much terror and genocide, colonization and slavery has been carried out in this world. Truth telling is not a sin.
Scholars think that Jesus existed, not because he was extraordinary but because he was ordinary.There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus because Jesus was just one of many traveling mystics. Another one would be John the Baptist. Even today there are many people like that.
this is a non sequitor video. since we are only discussing the historicity of something, we are, by default, discussing something that is not currently existing. that is the only reason why there are no contemporaries: no lives long enough to span 2,000 years and tell us. the rest of your video is he said, she said. you can google that many scholars still suppose they were written and sent during the 1st century. as to why you believe one over the other, that's your choice. but you didn't give empirical evidence for the credibility of your sources. the book of acts says that saul stopped practicing the israeli religion when jesus revealed himself to him en route to damascus. everything after that in acts is paul proselytizing what he heard from jesus. so the claim that he was of the same religion as josephus ends en route to damascus. also, to say that they would know each other because they lived in jerusalem is lazy dichotomy. who else from jerusalem do you know knew each other solely on the basis of perceived geographical closeness? if no one, then you're making this up as you go along. just say it: you're ignorant and bitter. i'm ignorant and bitter, too. why bull shit yourself, though? everyone is sheltered. relax.
@@lloydgush , on 'textual criticism' you might find the book "Christ before Jesus" by Matthew Britt and Jaaron Wingo. Very intereting research and analysis.
Sorry, but you are in error. Jesus was and still is real. You are just fulfilling the Bible, that says in the last days people wouldn't adhere to the truth, but would give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. And, that is exactly what you are doing.😮
You are spreading false information, and you will account for your unbelief. Repent (change your mind)and believe now in what Jesus did for you. Time is short, and you will see my Savior coming back on the clouds of heaven. I pray for your souls Jeff.
Nothing '' false '' about jeff's video, it's all backed by evidence, facts and logic...things you have no use for. You are pathetically lost in religious delusion.
I still choose to have faith in God till the end and beyond, but I really appreciate your channel for a good healthy opposing view. I always try to be open minded the best I can. So thanks sir
The video is about jesus, not god.
@@jerrylanglois7892 Christians believe jesus is God as well, whats your point
@@legokingiscool Beliefs aren't facts. My point is there is no evidence for your jesus. Not that evidence matters to you but where is your evidence ?
Curious, which scholars are you talking about specifically? please provide names for cross reference
Great Video Brother
4:50 "Everyone who wrote about Jesus said he was a supernatural person". Well said. This is why the gospels are such weak historical evidence. If you look a the book of Mark (on which Luke & Matthew were based) there is not one single chapter that is free of supernatural claims that no free-thinking scholar would say could actually happen. There may be some historical kernel in there, but even if there is, it is utterly overwhelmed with fictitious myth making.
@@exoplanet11 Scholars are hacks
Jeff, your video is the best I've seen to refute the authenticity of jesus as man\god '' savior ''. Unfortunately, a considerable percentage of people operate on an emotional appeal level rather than on a rational, logical one and would rather simply believe what they want to, whatever makes them feel good, so they have no use for your information. Anyway thanks for speaking what really matters to people like me -- the truth.
Thank you.
Fabulous work, cheers Jeff.
Matthew, Mark Luke and John-
King Herod Antipas, had wanted to see Jesus for a long time, hoping to observe one of the miracles of Jesus. However, Jesus says nothing in response to Herod's questions, or the vehement accusations of the chief priests and the scribes.
Soldiers put a gorgeous robe on Jesus, mocking him as King of the Jews, and send him back to Pilate.
That day, Herod and Pilate, who had previously been enemies, become friends.
Sad that people have to earn a living by ridiculing the good.
@joandark2 And Superman flew so fast around earth in the opposite direction of earth's rotation, he turned back time and saved Lois Lane from the earthquake. Quoting a horseshit book does not mean anything.
@@jeff4truth Well Bless you. What did you say your name was?
Look into Orthodoxy my friend, lots to learn
First of all, I don’t know of any Wise Author that claims I’m Alive and I’m the Author of this trustworthy book but I will NEVER APPEAR to clear the debates I’m WATCHING continually done for years. Isn’t it actually this One who has to show up and clear the tons of debates of his book!?😅
Over the past decade, I have observed over 20 preachers/teachers abandon their faith and embrace atheism after studying Full Preterism. Could you create a video exploring why Full Preterism often leads to Isreal Only, Universalism, and atheism?
The letters of Paul do not mention the destruction of the temple in 70 AD followed by the end of the nation of Israel.
Seems strange that a Jewish writer would omit a nation ending event like that.
@@edwardvan5808 Romans 11:11 mentions the fall of Israel. When Paul says the law ended, that is also a reference to 70 CE. Paul's letters were ALL written after Paul was dead. Weird.
@@jeff4truth In Rom 11:11 Paul is explaining the salvation message moving into the Gentile world, without the Jewish
law. He is not describing a political fall.
Paul starts his letters "Paul a bond servant of Christ..."
It is reasonable to assume he wrote them while alive.
@@edwardvan5808 IT is not reasonable to think God told men what to write down when there are contradictions all throughout the Bible. You have to be completely brainwashed to believe the Bible is true.
@@jeff4truth Years of scriptural study including ancient cultural practices and analyzing the available
data to arrive at a conclusion is not brainwashing.
The Bible is the inerrant word of God. This word is misunderstood as applied to scripture.
As described in scripture, God's character, his judgments and mercy, His divine nature,
His plans for his creation, who God is, are constant and inerrant from beginning to end
for 1400 years. This is not man sourced.
Surrounding this is standard historical reporting which includes hyperbole, exaggeration
and multiple scourced eyewitness accounts which include many variances, not contradictions.
Typical human reporting of historical events.
@@jeff4truth Years of scriptural study including ancient cultural practices and analyzing the available
data to arrive at a conclusion is not brainwashing.
The Bible is the inerrant word of God. This word is misunderstood as applied to scripture.
As described in scripture, God's character, his judgments and mercy, His divine nature,
His plans for his creation, who God is, are constant and inerrant from beginning to end
for 1400 years.
Surrounding this is standard historical reporting which includes hyperbole, exaggeration
and multiple scourced eyewitness accounts which include many variances, not contradictions.
Typical human reporting of historical events.
But you have to take it one step further. It didn't work with the Jews. They didn't bite. So why did the Romans keep this fictional character around and continue promoting him? Because he was just too good to throw away. They used this fantasy to unify their vast Roman empire which had so many tribes worshipping so many different gods. They replaced Saturnalia and Sol Invictus with Christmas. They incorporated pagan myths into this rollicking yarn. There's one that I'm prevented from writing about on this app, which is how this fake fantasy character was conceived -- that's straight from so many pagan cultures. Turning water into wine comes from a Roman story. Walking on water comes from Hinduism.
And because the Jews were the only tribe not to submit to being forcibly converted to this fake religion, they were the ones who continued to be persecuted in Europe through the centuries.
Your head is in the wrong place, eternity is a long time to be wrong. Repent of your sin and surrender to Christ while you have the opportunity.
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m Where's your proof of this "Christ"? Where's your proof of my "sin"? Oh, because you say so. Who the hell are you to decide what is sin, when your "Christ" doesn't exist except in your farts. You are the real sinner here for lying. I speak facts. I tell the truth about your fake fictional fantasy figure in whose name so much terror and genocide, colonization and slavery has been carried out in this world. Truth telling is not a sin.
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m
Is that, all????
This dude is still so surface level into religion that he is certain that the Jews in Israel are the Jews from the bible
then why would they subsequently persecute followers of the religion they concocted for 2 centuries before christianity was finally made legal?
Big Jeff!
Scholars think that Jesus existed, not because he was extraordinary but because he was ordinary.There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus because Jesus was just one of many traveling mystics. Another one would be John the Baptist. Even today there are many people like that.
@@hamobu That still makes Christianity an evil lie.
this is a non sequitor video. since we are only discussing the historicity of something, we are, by default, discussing something that is not currently existing.
that is the only reason why there are no contemporaries: no lives long enough to span 2,000 years and tell us.
the rest of your video is he said, she said. you can google that many scholars still suppose they were written and sent during the 1st century. as to why you believe one over the other, that's your choice. but you didn't give empirical evidence for the credibility of your sources.
the book of acts says that saul stopped practicing the israeli religion when jesus revealed himself to him en route to damascus. everything after that in acts is paul proselytizing what he heard from jesus.
so the claim that he was of the same religion as josephus ends en route to damascus.
also, to say that they would know each other because they lived in jerusalem is lazy dichotomy. who else from jerusalem do you know knew each other solely on the basis of perceived geographical closeness? if no one, then you're making this up as you go along.
just say it: you're ignorant and bitter. i'm ignorant and bitter, too. why bull shit yourself, though? everyone is sheltered. relax.
The '' Road to Damascus '' fairytale sums up christianity perfectly.
II AD?
Are you insane?
Basic textual criticism plus josephus and tacitus makes that claim ludicrous.
@@lloydgush what claim are you referring to? If you expect a response, you should at least make sense.
@@jeff4truth second century.
@@lloydgush , on 'textual criticism' you might find the book "Christ before Jesus" by Matthew Britt and Jaaron Wingo. Very intereting research and analysis.
Sorry, but you are in error. Jesus was and still is real. You are just fulfilling the Bible, that says in the last days people wouldn't adhere to the truth, but would give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. And, that is exactly what you are doing.😮
You are spreading false information, and you will account for your unbelief. Repent (change your mind)and believe now in what Jesus did for you. Time is short, and you will see my Savior coming back on the clouds of heaven. I pray for your souls Jeff.
@@DaughteroftheKing4ever all you can do is threaten people who don't believe in your God. I don't worship evil like you do.
Nothing '' false '' about jeff's video, it's all backed by evidence, facts and logic...things you have no use for. You are pathetically lost in religious delusion.