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Cool video, I've only just found your channel. I actually own a Zero S and I absolutely love it. The instant power on tap is addictive. The lack of maintenance is really good and I don't annoy my neighbours when setting off early in the morning. My previous bike was a BMW F650GS 800 Twin which I really liked but the bills were getting more and more expensive and there were a few big jobs coming up on it. I test rode one of these and I was hooked. Yes, they are expensive, but I bought an unregistered ex-demo bike with fitted charge tank (faster charging) for £9,995. I had said to myself that 14k was too much but if I saw one for under 10k I would have it😀. Plus the 5 year battery warranty started from the day I bought it so its like a new bike anyway. The range is approx 100 miles. I have done quite a few trips of over 200 miles and it is doable, but you do have to plan where to stop and charge, plus have a backup plan in case of a problem with the charger. I tend to stop with 30% remaining to allow for some wiggle room. I have also fitted Pelican cases to the bike so I can do some limited touring, but I am toying with the idea of picking up a Royal Enfield Himalayan or Benelli TRK 502 to do some proper long distance touring. As for the height, I am also 5ft 7" but have a 29" inside leg. I got the supplying dealer to drop the rear suspension by 25mm and I have also fitted the Zero touring screen and bar risers which has transformed the ride for me. Ideally I want an electric bike that will do 150+ miles at motorway speeds, charge up in less than half an hour, and cost less than 15k. But realistically it will be several years before that is achievable. Now I thought that I could sit around and wait for this mythical bike to come out, or bite the bullet and buy one of these now. I don't regret my purchase at all.
I've had a 2018 Zero SR (14kw + charge tank) for 4 years now. There is no better 'daily commuter'. Quiet. Quick. Nimble. Silent. No shifting in traffice. No holding the clutch at red lights. Perfection. It does have (1) Achilles heel though, range. You simple can't take it out of town. (It has a 70 hwy range at 70mph + 4 hour charge time on level 2 charger). I am 100% happy with mine because I only need/want 100% a commuter bike.
Yes, one could miss the thump and rumble of ICE but you gain so much more in the new sounds of the wind rushing and that cool whirr of the motor. And that unreal acceleration. Plus your neighbors appreciate the silence as well.
Great review of the Zero S. I have had a 21 Zero DSR for about 1 yr. now . What you can't see in videos is the quality of build and components which justify the price for me. I have had many bikes, and this bike has the best brakes of any I've owned , and only 1 disc up front ! You really have to behave riding this as all other vehicles move like 🐌 snails . Being silent adds another element of watchfullness as pedestrians and cars can barely hear you. I have had it stop traffic with drivers amazed at what they are seeing. Quite revolutionary . Definitely the future
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations. I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed. I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.)
Great video, thanks! As a non-motorcyclist I am genuinely considering one of these for my 45 mile round commute down the A1 rather than getting a second fuel car (currently priced out of an electric car).
Also looking at this bike but for a 60 mile round commute so ill be getting the extra battery. Also priced out of an electric car. Have you gotten yours yet bradley?
Really helpful, informative and interesting review as per usual Mark. Admire your commitment doing the 170 mile journey to Leicestershire. Interesting fact, there are 1.3 million motorcycles registered in the UK of which only 532 are electric. So range is really a problem
Thanks Alan ...I like them incredible performance ...I rode five that day ! Improve the range a bit ,make them cheaper and more charge points ...and I may buy one in the future cheers mark
I drove a BMW C evolution with comparable horsepower. From that moment I knew electric motorcycles where the way to go. The enormous torque is so addictive. No vibrations, no noise, no heat from the engine at last but not least, no maintenance on the engine. Wish they were less expensive though.
Hi Mark, great video. We spoke earlier in the year about my ex-Tuono and my current Trident. Paris is bringing in totally prohibitive parking costs for petrol vehicles this September so I'm going to test twio Zero bikes tomorrow,; this one and the FXE, which looks more suited to my daily urban commute. Ride safe.
I'm interested in this, love the concept and think the blue is great, no petrol stations, oil changes or chain maintenance, and even the battery range would be ok for me, only hang up is price.
If you keep an eye on graphine batteries or solid state, the future of electric will only get better and price should come down due to lower material costs, plus more range and faster charging.
Love these bikes. The range really doesn't bother me since my commute to work 12 miles one way. My problem is the huge price tag. I just specced one out on the Zero website and I'm looking at $13,890 before dealer and registration fees. That's a huge price tag for a low range niche bike. When compared to other naked bikes on the market, I can get an AMAZING bike from any of the big 4 for nearly $4,000 less.
Thanks Mark. I agree with most the comments here. Top speed needs to be higher. But then... it's really not a touring bike is it. Overall performance seems good enough based upon your comments. The really big issues are available public charging stations and time to charge. No one is going to wait more than five minutes for a charge and still buy one imo. Consequently, the people at Zero have really deep pockets to have gone down this road. They are clearly forcing an idea more than the reality of it. They have been around several years now and still going at it. Likely waiting for battery technology to catch up with their program. Gord
This would be fine for shorter journeys with around 90 miles per charge, other than that the range would still be a big problem for most folk that like bike tours. Very clean and maintenance easy.. but again the cost of ownership compared to a much cheaper petrol equivalent doesn't really make it worth it unless like I said short daily commutes.
That ride was even scarier than your Suzuki GSX-S1000 review! I really thought you were gonna crash into that bridge barrier on high speed! You ride safe there!
Keep looking at these. My daily commute is a 30 mile round trip. My preferred (only really) loop for a run out is 100 miles door to door. You can get an interest free loan of up to £10k in Scotland for an electric motorcycle. My work vehicle is electric and it’s great, especially for overtaking.
I think besides the issues with price and range, is the charging, at a garage fine, but at home it will take you 4-5 times longer to get a half decent charge. Alot of these electric vehicles are not true miles ie range which could cause a big issue. Great review as always though
Thanks Jake ...yes hopefully the price will come down eventually...and I was told that for these smaller commuter bikes ...you generally just put them on charge over night :) Cheers mark
Just wondering - do all Zero S models have the option to charge with a faster plug, akin to public chargers? I'd love to have one but would want the extra range of the power tank - so could I still charge quickly with the larger battery, or is it one or the other?
Didn’t catch how much it cost, but it seems to go well enough. The range is always going to be a problem, pity you didn’t have a go at charging it up, this also seems to be problematic with different charging stations and plugs etc. But this is the future. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Duncan ...they are still pricey at the moment this one is about £12k with the government grant ...but I'm sure the price will drop over the next few years as more people buy them Regards mark
Always good to find someone with exactly the same stats as myself! Real pain in the arse trying to judge the sizes of things when it’s a 6 foot bloke sat on it!
Great if you live in the city, the range is nowhere near enough for bikers like me in the Yorkshire Dales, our average ride out is over 150 miles, also it’s hard enough finding a petrol station up here let alone a charging point. Good review
How great is this? I'm racing vintage Hondas and I am really sold on that, but had the same experience like you, rode the Zero S and was blown away. If this thing would somehow have a real price (let's say about 8000) I would have bought one right away as my commuter bike. So cool!
Great review mark,for me a bike with a sound is good.i understand they are going electric,great for cars but bikes not so.i do like the instant power delivery though.
Hi Mark hope you're well. Nothing wrong with your review and previous reviews of yours has got me wanting the said bike. However this bike limits the freedom of motorcycling which is the very essence of the hobby. Four of us have just completed a 1800 mile tour of Scotland and if one rider would have been riding this bike he would have been a day behind us with the need to charge twice a day. Sorry but i will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Electric era.
No that's fine Nigel thanks for the view ...they need to come a long way yet in terms of range and price ...I think bikes like this are just aimed at the urban commuter at the moment ...rather than mega tours or you just ride on your own and plan in charge stops .. regards mark
For a commuter or urban rider who is buying the bike for the long term and where charging it is straightforward (drive, garage etc) and the daily mileage is within the bike's range this would be far better than a petrol bike because it costs so little to run and is virtually maintenance free and very reliable. I think it is a nice looking, tasteful machine and it looks very well made. I have belt drive on my current petrol bike - it is the best - cheap, light and reliable. I recently bought an electric car. I love it and I would never go back. Internal combustion engine cars seem so over complicated and old fashioned. I still like real classics though but modern cars are silly anachronisms. Mind you, given the amount of traffic, cars will soon be a thing of the past -Not so electric two wheelers though !
Another great review mark yah its the future with out a doubt only problem would be every one would want a go on it also I have a bennellli 400 imperiale and none bikers love it everywhere I go its different qurkie and I could sell it anyday but the biking community hate it because its better than most out the question I get asked is I suppose it handles like an old bike or its heavy wrong on both counts but what really upsets the normal biker is when I tell them it does 90 miles to the gallon and can go anywhere so if I had a zero it would really upset the norm when you say it costs 2 euros for 150 miles regards from ireland
Everything made in USA is double the price in the UK. Tesla for example...ridiculous! Looks good on you Mark,but please give us some motorbike reviews next time. Thanks 😁
Amazing. Cant wait for future. Good one day when they arent tied to traditional bike design and go their own direction. Maybe a tron styled bike or akira bike.
Obviously this will be the future but the charging infrastructure for all electric vehicles needs to be made a priorty and standardising and not the haphazzard way it is done now. Great commuter machine no doubt but on a long journey then you would probably need to carry a charging lead and somewhere to charge it, so still a bit of a way to go yet. Would love to have a go on one though. Great review as always.
Thanks John yes agreed I think there needs to be a charging point like on every lamp post in the future for this to happen if everybody has electric vehicles :)
Excellent review Mark! So you’ve never ridden an electric motorcycle? How impressive? Next time test ride an Energica motorcycle. Way more expensive but MotoE racing credentials 🙌😉👌🚀
Great review as usual Mark. I have been trying to find out what the import tax is importing one of these motorcycles from the USA to the UK. Unfortunately i was unable to find it. In the back of my mind i think it is 25%. Which is a lot the other thing is there are so fewer moving parts in an electric motor compared to a normal combustion engine. They should really be a lot cheaper. Thank you.
Thanks Colin ...the fxs is the cheapest here in the uk at about £10500 with the grant But hopefully the prices will come down in the future Cheers mark
I went to a bike show in Peterborough yesterday & Zero were there, I did want a test ride on the SR/S but they were fully booked up.. While I was walking back to where I’d parked my bike a group of them rode by me, obviously I didn’t here them coming while I was walking along the road, my first thoughts were because of how quiet they are, is this potentially makes them much more dangerous while out riding on the roads! They are also far too expensive, & the real world range is in my opinion very poor! I can’t imagine much involvement from a riding perspective either - compared to a normal motorcycle, being just basically a twist & go… I think what I’m basically saying is I’ll be sticking with internal combustion, with much rider involvement & a glorious soundtrack to boot, with the added benefit of unlimited range. 😎 👍🏻
Definitely ...petrol bikes are here for years to come yet....i had read that yamaha are producing a "sound box" so these bikes can make a sound so people can hear them ..regards mark
Lol, you whizzed passed my old house on that run... Nice bike, and as expensive as it is I think it would pay for itself over time considering the fuel cost savings...
...don't forget the maintenance savings. No spark plugs or oil changes, or time/effort learning how any of that stuff works so the mechanic can't fool you.
Tried one and was so impressed by the thing. Loved it, sort of - it just lacks character. As an efficient form of transport, yes. As a fun hobby, not so much.
On the A1 category is really targeted at teenagers - the price is likely to be a real issue here. £2 per 100 miles approx is good, but price will be a barrier to entry for the target market. The 86 MPH might open up to the A2 class holders - but the reality is a Suzuki GSX 125S will do 70 MPH, and 100 MPG and is a fraction of the cost. As others have said. Until the prices can come down, i don't see a rush to buy electric.
Seems crazy these don't have led headlights. I changed mine I'm getting approx 4x the light. No joking it's brighter than car headlights now by some margin and only using 2.27amps so around 25watts ish instead of 55watts H7
Hi, am I right in thinking that you only need a CBT licence to ride this or is that a silly question? Seems alot of power for just CBT and needing more advanced licence.
Hi Mark, your video and riding style is excellent. I have my Zero SR ZF14.4 from past 2 years,, 1200 miles on it, only ridden local streets to practice enough before going on highways. However, leaning this bike is feeling very scary as I feel the bike will skid outside from under my body when trying to lean at 35 mph in a 45 mph limit short/sharp turn or bend. What body position are you using when leaning this bike with such confidence? Specially when you said in the video that you are riding an electric bike for the very first time. Please advise, how to gain more and more confidence on this machine even after 1200+ miles. thank you.
Hi ... confidence will come over time ...I've probably ridden 500 000 miles over 35 years ... regarding cornering..drop your elbow a bit ..look towards the vanishing point of the corner ..very slightly slide off the seat ...make sure tyre pressures are spot on ...it will come but it takes time ... constant check on road conditions...wet leaves etc Good luck and best wishes mark
You'd need a converter barrel for that j1772 as type 2 is the standard for everywhere except the US. I love the colour and it would really suit me but zero don't export to Australia, and a similar weight too a 400/500 I'm on my 2nd Tesla and I have solar and a battery powered house for many years. So I really like electric, a full tank of fuel everytime you go to use it.
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations. I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed. I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.) So there is a converter for j1772 to Type 2 and if I buy Charge Tank upgrade and I can make my 250km ride with one stop to charge about 2-3 hours?
If Kawasaki had put a front light and cowling onto their H2 bike you just reviewed it would be a winner!. I think this bike looks ok. Would prefer some better colours that the matt black plastic trim but is has promise. Would like to see an electric bike contender in the super/hyper naked class. I like the look of their SR/S. 110bhp and 140 ftlbs torque. Must be a pretty quick bike. You didn't do a sound test at the end.
The price and the fact I would still require a petrol bike for touring is the problem, the price will come down and the range up I hope as development continues. Probably some legal requirement in the USA where they are made but I think LED lights all round and indicators would be a must on an electric vehicle. Looking forward to thee SF SR review.
@@ZoahPorre Two up and with luggage I guess I would be stopping every 90 miles for an hour to charge. Impossible for now, chargers just don't exist yet.
@@stephenfleming7056 it seems you can charge it at any wall outlet (not on the top port, but on the side) Many campgrounds have electricity, and for like a day trip it would be doable. Id get like a jackery and a solar panel to charge it. Yea there are limits to what it can do obviously, but I think its a nice start to what it can be in the future.
@@ZoahPorre The side connection for charging takes 6 hours, ok for overnight charging, especially if you have a hook up at your campsite but need more range and fast chargers to make longer journeys viable.
I like that its probably coal or nuclear powered. We have lots that here in the states. I could be wrong and that electricity just jumps out of the wall. It is a neat idea though.
Hi Edward ....it's very light compared to normal bikes ....it puts regeneration charge into the battery when you shut the throttle ...I think you can adjust the engine braking on some of the bigger models all very clever stuff :)
I don't know if the 'S' has 'custom' mode, but the engine braking (regenerative braking, charging the battery) can be adjusted to suit your tastes. 100% is too much for smooth riding with a pillion, but in the twisties it's fine and makes a big difference to the battery range. "sport' mode actually has less regen (braking) because you're expected to use the brakes for better control.
@@darkmunk1 My 2018 S has app connectivity, you can fully customise the level of regen braking both when the throttle's off and seperately when you pull the brake lever.
It's hard to get your head around that electric is always full power, you don't have to wait for the revs to rise to reach the peak torque zone, it's always there
Rode the Zero SR/F a few years ago (looks a lot better than this one), wow is all I can say, the torque is insane. Now, all they have to do is lower the price considerably and make the batteries last a lot longer and quicker to charge, then maybe I'm in.
Which model of RST pants are you using here ? Is there a in-the-boot pant variant or have you just pressed your pants down the boots without any discomfort :) ?
love you channel but i love pitrol bikes and in a few years I will miss the fixing and the sounds and the agistment I hope thay will have an idea of how to make petrol without using nature
Not keen on the look of this one especially given the price. The premium version does look much better but the price of it is just ridiculous given what else you could buy at that price - petrol of course. The torque does get a good thumbs-up though!
Hi Mark Few observations. Love your cut see, wish others did that but I guess USP for you. I have seen you on loads of mid range bikes (appreciate this isn’t that) but this looks very small. Was that your impression? Looked like no ABS? Thought that ran through my mind was if you just had weekend rides say less than 100 miles and didn’t want to take your full test, this would be all the bike you would need. Now if only they made them look like bonnies😀
Hi Denis ....it's very quick accelerating !! I guess if you had to have a small a1 bike and didn't want to do your test then this would be great if you like the smooth quiet electric power ,and a range of say 100 miles is enough for you Cheers mark
Thanks Mark, a really informative "first impression" of what a short ride might be like in the future. Any chance you might be able to get a long termer? That would be really interesting seeing how you got on over a week or two.
I don't understand why the width of the rear tyre is so small on these bike? Given the torque, I would have thought that the more rubber the better be on the road.
I am trying to get quotes for insurance for the zero s 11w but every time it says no providers why is this I thought it was a bike you can ride on a cbt provisional?
Not my bag but I can see the fun ,the looks are not to inspiring I am surprised the lighting is not LED all round. I guess to ride is the only way to get the feel really so I would never say never until that point interesting .Cheers Mark : )
They look a load of fun, the price will come down as they become more mainstream. It’ll all be electric one day, it’s inevitable. The horses weren’t bothered!
I like the look of it, electric will be the future mode of travel and they are getting better with the batteries. The only hang up is the price, surely it can come into the price bracket of its fueled counterparts? I assume its low maintenance is what's pushing the price up, otherwise your review sold it for me.
I love the howling sound of my Yamaha 1300 xjr, it's a beast. This would be for going to work. Not for fun. Not for me. But bikes are better for electric then heavy cars.
Thanks Luke....not really as it's just a different riding experience ...if I had to choose one or the other I'd go petrol but these are truly an amazing experience cheers mark
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations. I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed. I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.)
with the rising cost of fuel, Ive been considering a 125 as a cheaper commute than my diesel. These bikes seem quite cool and I like the electric concept. But the price is a bit of a put off. £14,000 for an electric motorbike when I could get a brand new Yamamha MT125 for a fraction of the price.
@@markpulling12 if they were half that price, it would be tempting to spend the extra money on one. But same with all electric vehicles...too expensive
IMHO it's the price and a lack of charging points that'll initially affect sales,but in a couple of years time if prices reduce and charging points become more common I can them selling better. That said,I think where electric motorcycles score best for commuting where you only a top speed of say 80mph max or less and a range of 50 to 70 miles max,if cost was below say £7k they'd sell like hot cakes.The time will come in the not too distant I feel sure,but now as good as they are sales will be limited.
Great review, yes the future is electric haha, one thing i noticed is price,its way too expensive.From my point of view, electric bike should be affordable may be cost around 3000 to 4500 usa dollar in order to compete in global market especially in asian countries.Super soco and srf are great bikes,they perform great on normal road condition but there are case of offroad, non expected road, mountain roads,service cost (for example in asia), i see these bikes fails on that.May be affordable dual sport,offroad and onroad electric bike should be introduced if they have to compete global market.I see lots of videos where bike reviewer act like 8000 -15000 dollar is nothing,but it matters in asian or developing countries because there is huge market place to compete on developing countries. Otherwise Chinese will soon compete with these as they already had bike experience in asia.
I demoed the Harley Live Wire three times. The second ride was unrestricted, meaning they let me take it out on my own. Great fun! Do I look like I have 30K? Lol.
O love electric bikes /moto. Watching this vídeo, while motorcycles pass by the apartment its annoying, it's more easier with electric bikes than a motorcycle. Furtre gen z will own these, then who'll apear something greater. But thus is a future for us
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Cool video, I've only just found your channel. I actually own a Zero S and I absolutely love it. The instant power on tap is addictive. The lack of maintenance is really good and I don't annoy my neighbours when setting off early in the morning. My previous bike was a BMW F650GS 800 Twin which I really liked but the bills were getting more and more expensive and there were a few big jobs coming up on it. I test rode one of these and I was hooked. Yes, they are expensive, but I bought an unregistered ex-demo bike with fitted charge tank (faster charging) for £9,995. I had said to myself that 14k was too much but if I saw one for under 10k I would have it😀. Plus the 5 year battery warranty started from the day I bought it so its like a new bike anyway. The range is approx 100 miles. I have done quite a few trips of over 200 miles and it is doable, but you do have to plan where to stop and charge, plus have a backup plan in case of a problem with the charger. I tend to stop with 30% remaining to allow for some wiggle room. I have also fitted Pelican cases to the bike so I can do some limited touring, but I am toying with the idea of picking up a Royal Enfield Himalayan or Benelli TRK 502 to do some proper long distance touring. As for the height, I am also 5ft 7" but have a 29" inside leg. I got the supplying dealer to drop the rear suspension by 25mm and I have also fitted the Zero touring screen and bar risers which has transformed the ride for me. Ideally I want an electric bike that will do 150+ miles at motorway speeds, charge up in less than half an hour, and cost less than 15k. But realistically it will be several years before that is achievable. Now I thought that I could sit around and wait for this mythical bike to come out, or bite the bullet and buy one of these now. I don't regret my purchase at all.
Sounds great ray thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
u have the 7.2 or 14?
Where did u get such a good deal from ?
I've had a 2018 Zero SR (14kw + charge tank) for 4 years now. There is no better 'daily commuter'. Quiet. Quick. Nimble. Silent. No shifting in traffice. No holding the clutch at red lights. Perfection. It does have (1) Achilles heel though, range. You simple can't take it out of town. (It has a 70 hwy range at 70mph + 4 hour charge time on level 2 charger). I am 100% happy with mine because I only need/want 100% a commuter bike.
For people with clutch hand fatigue this is a game changer and brings people back to riding again. I would get one.
Always excited to see a
mark pulling video pop up! Easily one of my favorite youtube channels. Thanks for the reviews!
I appreciate that!
Yes, one could miss the thump and rumble of ICE but you gain so much more in the new sounds of the wind rushing and that cool whirr of the motor. And that unreal acceleration. Plus your neighbors appreciate the silence as well.
Thanks yes I agree :)
Great review of the Zero S. I have had a 21 Zero DSR for about 1 yr. now . What you can't see in videos is the quality of build and components which justify the price for me. I have had many bikes, and this bike has the best brakes of any I've owned , and only 1 disc up front ! You really have to behave riding this as all other vehicles move like 🐌 snails . Being silent adds another element of watchfullness as pedestrians and cars can barely hear you. I have had it stop traffic with drivers amazed at what they are seeing. Quite revolutionary . Definitely the future
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations.
I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed.
I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.)
Thank you for splendid review! That is great that you are testing not the most popular bikes.
My pleasure Michael
Great video, thanks!
As a non-motorcyclist I am genuinely considering one of these for my 45 mile round commute down the A1 rather than getting a second fuel car (currently priced out of an electric car).
Thanks Bradley ...yes these are very good cheers mark
Also looking at this bike but for a 60 mile round commute so ill be getting the extra battery. Also priced out of an electric car. Have you gotten yours yet bradley?
Really helpful, informative and interesting review as per usual Mark. Admire your commitment doing the 170 mile journey to Leicestershire. Interesting fact, there are 1.3 million motorcycles registered in the UK of which only 532 are electric. So range is really a problem
Thanks Alan ...I like them incredible performance ...I rode five that day ! Improve the range a bit ,make them cheaper and more charge points ...and I may buy one in the future cheers mark
I drove a BMW C evolution with comparable horsepower. From that moment I knew electric motorcycles where the way to go. The enormous torque is so addictive. No vibrations, no noise, no heat from the engine at last but not least, no maintenance on the engine. Wish they were less expensive though.
Thanks Herman ....exciting future ahead if they are good now imagine in 10 years ?
Cheers mark
Thanks for stating your height and leg size and showing how you fit on the bike. Very useful.
Thanks Richard :)
Definitely looking into one of these! Really considering the S or a Honda Grom. Both have pros and con.
Wow, it felt like I was riding pillion with you.
Superb motorcycle with hardly any sound.
Great stuff Mark.
Cheers Gary ....it was great fun :)
@@markpulling12 yeah, well done for not putting a daft Muzak sound track over the top ;)
Hi Mark, great video. We spoke earlier in the year about my ex-Tuono and my current Trident. Paris is bringing in totally prohibitive parking costs for petrol vehicles this September so I'm going to test twio Zero bikes tomorrow,; this one and the FXE, which looks more suited to my daily urban commute. Ride safe.
Thanks Tony ...I'm looking forward to the electric bike future:)
This bike is fine If you're not going anywhere, it's a commuter. Battery replacement cost needs to be kept in mind.
I'm interested in this, love the concept and think the blue is great, no petrol stations, oil changes or chain maintenance, and even the battery range would be ok for me, only hang up is price.
i agree michael ...id have one but too expensive at the moment
cheers mark
There are still some belt drives on ice bikes. Used to be quite a few 450ltd gpz305 250 scorpion. F800st and still some harley Davidson bikes.
If you keep an eye on graphine batteries or solid state, the future of electric will only get better and price should come down due to lower material costs, plus more range and faster charging.
Did this on my bday 👌🏾
Mine should be here in two weeks
Love these bikes. The range really doesn't bother me since my commute to work 12 miles one way. My problem is the huge price tag. I just specced one out on the Zero website and I'm looking at $13,890 before dealer and registration fees. That's a huge price tag for a low range niche bike. When compared to other naked bikes on the market, I can get an AMAZING bike from any of the big 4 for nearly $4,000 less.
Yes I know ...even more expensive here in the uk
This is why you don't buy brand new. I found a 2018 model, with 620 miles on it, for 7k a 2 months ago. Look around on Facebook.
@@Charlesbjtown thanks Charles .that's way cheaper :)
Thanks Mark. I agree with most the comments here. Top speed needs to be higher. But then... it's really not a touring bike is it. Overall performance seems good enough based upon your comments.
The really big issues are available public charging stations and time to charge. No one is going to wait more than five minutes for a charge and still buy one imo.
Consequently, the people at Zero have really deep pockets to have gone down this road. They are clearly forcing an idea more than the reality of it.
They have been around several years now and still going at it. Likely waiting for battery technology to catch up with their program.
Gord
Thanks gordon ....hopefully these will improve in every way in the future,ie cost,charging and range :)
@@markpulling12 Yes... let's see what happens. In the mean time, back to the real motorbikes.
Gord
This would be fine for shorter journeys with around 90 miles per charge, other than that the range would still be a big problem for most folk that like bike tours. Very clean and maintenance easy.. but again the cost of ownership compared to a much cheaper petrol equivalent doesn't really make it worth it unless like I said short daily commutes.
Nice review as always
Thanks Tom my pleasure 😊
That ride was even scarier than your Suzuki GSX-S1000 review! I really thought you were gonna crash into that bridge barrier on high speed! You ride safe there!
Thanks jojo
Great video as always. Really like the bike a bit pricey for me at the moment but a cool bike none the less.
Thanks Paul ...I could have ridden it all day .... great fun :)
Great review 👍
Keep looking at these. My daily commute is a 30 mile round trip. My preferred (only really) loop for a run out is 100 miles door to door. You can get an interest free loan of up to £10k in Scotland for an electric motorcycle. My work vehicle is electric and it’s great, especially for overtaking.
Hi Joe these are great ....have a look at the fxs it's a little cheaper than the s model
Nice monkey pic !!
Cheers mark
Cheers Mark - can’t beat a bit of Monkey Magic 😀
I think besides the issues with price and range, is the charging, at a garage fine, but at home it will take you 4-5 times longer to get a half decent charge. Alot of these electric vehicles are not true miles ie range which could cause a big issue. Great review as always though
Thanks Jake ...yes hopefully the price will come down eventually...and I was told that for these smaller commuter bikes ...you generally just put them on charge over night :)
Cheers mark
I just love it.Love it. Want it. Need it ..
Me too Ian
Just wondering - do all Zero S models have the option to charge with a faster plug, akin to public chargers? I'd love to have one but would want the extra range of the power tank - so could I still charge quickly with the larger battery, or is it one or the other?
Enjoyed the video sir. I will have to look into getting one
Thanks Joey they are really good ☺️
Didn’t catch how much it cost, but it seems to go well enough. The range is always going to be a problem, pity you didn’t have a go at charging it up, this also seems to be problematic with different charging stations and plugs etc. But this is the future. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Duncan ...they are still pricey at the moment this one is about £12k with the government grant ...but I'm sure the price will drop over the next few years as more people buy them
Regards mark
Always good to find someone with exactly the same stats as myself! Real pain in the arse trying to judge the sizes of things when it’s a 6 foot bloke sat on it!
Many thanks:)
Great if you live in the city, the range is nowhere near enough for bikers like me in the Yorkshire Dales, our average ride out is over 150 miles, also it’s hard enough finding a petrol station up here let alone a charging point. Good review
Thanks Jim ...yes agreed. More of a short journey city bike ...then charge over night :)
Cheers mark
Sweet bike i want one! 😆
How great is this? I'm racing vintage Hondas and I am really sold on that, but had the same experience like you, rode the Zero S and was blown away. If this thing would somehow have a real price (let's say about 8000) I would have bought one right away as my commuter bike. So cool!
Yes Martin ,they seem to be just that bit too expensive I'm sure they will all come down in price as the years go on cheers mark
Great review mark,for me a bike with a sound is good.i understand they are going electric,great for cars but bikes not so.i do like the instant power delivery though.
Thanks James ....I've heard they may add a "sound box " to electric bikes in the future ....so pedestrians can hear you :)
Cheers mark
Hi Mark hope you're well. Nothing wrong with your review and previous reviews of yours has got me wanting the said bike. However this bike limits the freedom of motorcycling which is the very essence of the hobby. Four of us have just completed a 1800 mile tour of Scotland and if one rider would have been riding this bike he would have been a day behind us with the need to charge twice a day. Sorry but i will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Electric era.
No that's fine Nigel thanks for the view ...they need to come a long way yet in terms of range and price ...I think bikes like this are just aimed at the urban commuter at the moment ...rather than mega tours or you just ride on your own and plan in charge stops
.. regards mark
For a commuter or urban rider who is buying the bike for the long term and where charging it is straightforward (drive, garage etc) and the daily mileage is within the bike's range this would be far better than a petrol bike because it costs so little to run and is virtually maintenance free and very reliable. I think it is a nice looking, tasteful machine and it looks very well made. I have belt drive on my current petrol bike - it is the best - cheap, light and reliable. I recently bought an electric car. I love it and I would never go back. Internal combustion engine cars seem so over complicated and old fashioned. I still like real classics though but modern cars are silly anachronisms. Mind you, given the amount of traffic, cars will soon be a thing of the past -Not so electric two wheelers though !
Thanks Great comment Thomas :)
Another great review mark yah its the future with out a doubt only problem would be every one would want a go on it also I have a bennellli 400 imperiale and none bikers love it everywhere I go its different qurkie and I could sell it anyday but the biking community hate it because its better than most out the question I get asked is I suppose it handles like an old bike or its heavy wrong on both counts but what really upsets the normal biker is when I tell them it does 90 miles to the gallon and can go anywhere so if I had a zero it would really upset the norm when you say it costs 2 euros for 150 miles regards from ireland
Thanks William .. yes it's going to be interesting with bikes like this in the future cheers mark
@@markpulling12 keep up the great reviews 🙌👊
Everything made in USA is double the price in the UK.
Tesla for example...ridiculous!
Looks good on you Mark,but please give us some motorbike reviews next time.
Thanks 😁
Amazing. Cant wait for future. Good one day when they arent tied to traditional bike design and go their own direction. Maybe a tron styled bike or akira bike.
Thanks I enjoyed riding it :)
I was considering getting one but now I'm 100% sold
Great review Mark. You were obviously impressed and I'm impressed but probably £9k too expensive.
Yes I'd love one but too expensive for me.. hopefully the price will drop in the future :)...then I'm in
Obviously this will be the future but the charging infrastructure for all electric vehicles needs to be made a priorty and standardising and not the haphazzard way it is done now. Great commuter machine no doubt but on a long journey then you would probably need to carry a charging lead and somewhere to charge it, so still a bit of a way to go yet. Would love to have a go on one though. Great review as always.
Thanks John yes agreed I think there needs to be a charging point like on every lamp post in the future for this to happen if everybody has electric vehicles :)
Excellent review Mark! So you’ve never ridden an electric motorcycle? How impressive? Next time test ride an Energica motorcycle. Way more expensive but MotoE racing credentials 🙌😉👌🚀
Yes it's uncanny when you twist the throttle !
Great review as usual Mark. I have been trying to find out what the import tax is importing one of these motorcycles from the USA to the UK. Unfortunately i was unable to find it. In the back of my mind i think it is 25%. Which is a lot the other thing is there are so fewer moving parts in an electric motor compared to a normal combustion engine. They should really be a lot cheaper. Thank you.
Thanks Colin ...the fxs is the cheapest here in the uk at about £10500 with the grant
But hopefully the prices will come down in the future
Cheers mark
I went to a bike show in Peterborough yesterday & Zero were there, I did want a test ride on the SR/S but they were fully booked up..
While I was walking back to where I’d parked my bike a group of them rode by me, obviously I didn’t here them coming while I was walking along the road, my first thoughts were because of how quiet they are, is this potentially makes them much more dangerous while out riding on the roads!
They are also far too expensive, & the real world range is in my opinion very poor!
I can’t imagine much involvement from a riding perspective either - compared to a normal motorcycle, being just basically a twist & go…
I think what I’m basically saying is I’ll be sticking with internal combustion, with much rider involvement & a glorious soundtrack to boot, with the added benefit of unlimited range. 😎 👍🏻
Definitely ...petrol bikes are here for years to come yet....i had read that yamaha are producing a "sound box" so these bikes can make a sound so people can hear them ..regards mark
Want one!!!
Haha that's I what I thought !
Wait till my Sr/s review !!!
Lol, you whizzed passed my old house on that run...
Nice bike, and as expensive as it is I think it would pay for itself over time considering the fuel cost savings...
...don't forget the maintenance savings. No spark plugs or oil changes, or time/effort learning how any of that stuff works so the mechanic can't fool you.
If Zero would make a GROM size bike. It would sell like crazy in the u.s
Tried one and was so impressed by the thing. Loved it, sort of - it just lacks character.
As an efficient form of transport, yes. As a fun hobby, not so much.
Thanks Paul interesting hearing people's opinions :)
On the A1 category is really targeted at teenagers - the price is likely to be a real issue here. £2 per 100 miles approx is good, but price will be a barrier to entry for the target market.
The 86 MPH might open up to the A2 class holders - but the reality is a Suzuki GSX 125S will do 70 MPH, and 100 MPG and is a fraction of the cost.
As others have said. Until the prices can come down, i don't see a rush to buy electric.
Thanks ...yes I can't see 17 year olds buying these unless they are rich ...more an urban commuter for full license holders
Regards mark
good vid mark as usual, but the angle of that side stand mmm, i can hear the sound of breaking plastic.
Yes eeek :)
I like it 👌
Hi Mark, shame they didn’t go LED all round?
With your riding style what range would you get on a full battery?
Hi Jason on this bike which I don't think has the bigger battery it does about 120 miles average
Seems crazy these don't have led headlights. I changed mine I'm getting approx 4x the light. No joking it's brighter than car headlights now by some margin and only using 2.27amps so around 25watts ish instead of 55watts H7
Good for horses, the planet and folks with hearing sensitivity - what's not to like? Looking forward to your reaction when you go WOT on sport mode.
It was amazing ...the srs is even better :)
Hi, am I right in thinking that you only need a CBT licence to ride this or is that a silly question? Seems alot of power for just CBT and needing more advanced licence.
Hi Jason yes that's correct... amazing isn't it that you can ride on L plates with cbt
Best wishes mark
Wonderful bike. Just have to remember that you are not making noise and to be careful in town and when filtering..........Sal : )
Thanks sal ...I enjoyed it ... might get one when they come down in price :)
Hi Mark i can see me trying one of these. Does it come with any storage for a cable ?
Hi Johnathan ...yes it does :)
Hi Mark, your video and riding style is excellent. I have my Zero SR ZF14.4 from past 2 years,, 1200 miles on it, only ridden local streets to practice enough before going on highways. However, leaning this bike is feeling very scary as I feel the bike will skid outside from under my body when trying to lean at 35 mph in a 45 mph limit short/sharp turn or bend. What body position are you using when leaning this bike with such confidence? Specially when you said in the video that you are riding an electric bike for the very first time. Please advise, how to gain more and more confidence on this machine even after 1200+ miles. thank you.
Hi ... confidence will come over time ...I've probably ridden 500 000 miles over 35 years ... regarding cornering..drop your elbow a bit ..look towards the vanishing point of the corner ..very slightly slide off the seat ...make sure tyre pressures are spot on ...it will come but it takes time ... constant check on road conditions...wet leaves etc
Good luck and best wishes mark
You'd need a converter barrel for that j1772 as type 2 is the standard for everywhere except the US.
I love the colour and it would really suit me but zero don't export to Australia, and a similar weight too a 400/500
I'm on my 2nd Tesla and I have solar and a battery powered house for many years.
So I really like electric, a full tank of fuel everytime you go to use it.
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations.
I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed.
I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.)
So there is a converter for j1772 to Type 2 and if I buy Charge Tank upgrade and I can make my 250km ride with one stop to charge about 2-3 hours?
If Kawasaki had put a front light and cowling onto their H2 bike you just reviewed it would be a winner!.
I think this bike looks ok. Would prefer some better colours that the matt black plastic trim but is has promise. Would like to see an electric bike contender in the super/hyper naked class. I like the look of their SR/S. 110bhp and 140 ftlbs torque. Must be a pretty quick bike.
You didn't do a sound test at the end.
Thanks Alex ...I revved it nothing happened ??? Couldn't work out where the E10 fuel went 😆
This is the beginning of a new automotive future..
The price and the fact I would still require a petrol bike for touring is the problem, the price will come down and the range up I hope as development continues. Probably some legal requirement in the USA where they are made but I think LED lights all round and indicators would be a must on an electric vehicle. Looking forward to thee SF SR review.
Well as long as you can charge it anywhere *it seems to be able to* id gladly moto camp with this.
@@ZoahPorre Two up and with luggage I guess I would be stopping every 90 miles for an hour to charge. Impossible for now, chargers just don't exist yet.
@@stephenfleming7056 it seems you can charge it at any wall outlet (not on the top port, but on the side) Many campgrounds have electricity, and for like a day trip it would be doable.
Id get like a jackery and a solar panel to charge it. Yea there are limits to what it can do obviously, but I think its a nice start to what it can be in the future.
Thanks yes srf reviews coming soon... definitely more range and cheaper ...I might be in :)
@@ZoahPorre The side connection for charging takes 6 hours, ok for overnight charging, especially if you have a hook up at your campsite but need more range and fast chargers to make longer journeys viable.
I like that its probably coal or nuclear powered. We have lots that here in the states. I could be wrong and that electricity just jumps out of the wall. It is a neat idea though.
Thanks Dale :)
Thanks for the video, Mark. How did the "engine braking" on the Zero compare to conventional bikes?
Hi Edward ....it's very light compared to normal bikes ....it puts regeneration charge into the battery when you shut the throttle ...I think you can adjust the engine braking on some of the bigger models all very clever stuff :)
I don't know if the 'S' has 'custom' mode, but the engine braking (regenerative braking, charging the battery) can be adjusted to suit your tastes. 100% is too much for smooth riding with a pillion, but in the twisties it's fine and makes a big difference to the battery range. "sport' mode actually has less regen (braking) because you're expected to use the brakes for better control.
@@darkmunk1 My 2018 S has app connectivity, you can fully customise the level of regen braking both when the throttle's off and seperately when you pull the brake lever.
It's hard to get your head around that electric is always full power, you don't have to wait for the revs to rise to reach the peak torque zone, it's always there
Rode the Zero SR/F a few years ago (looks a lot better than this one), wow is all I can say, the torque is insane. Now, all they have to do is lower the price considerably and make the batteries last a lot longer and quicker to charge, then maybe I'm in.
My thoughts exactly ....I have my review on the srf waiting to be edited :)
@@markpulling12 Nice look forward to that.
I recon if the price comes down they will be mega popular Mark 👍
Me too ...I guess over the years the price will drop .... supply and demand and all that :)
Me too I expect they will over time ....supply and demand
Which model of RST pants are you using here ? Is there a in-the-boot pant variant or have you just pressed your pants down the boots without any discomfort :) ?
Hi robin ..yes just pushed them into the boots with no problems ..they are five years old now ..i think they are rst paragon
cheers mark
love you channel but i love pitrol bikes and in a few years I will miss the fixing and the sounds and the agistment I hope thay will have an idea of how to make petrol without using nature
Not keen on the look of this one especially given the price. The premium version does look much better but the price of it is just ridiculous given what else you could buy at that price - petrol of course.
The torque does get a good thumbs-up though!
Thanks Dan ...yes great to ride ...the future maybe in 20 years ?
Bit pricey I know but I'm sure they will come down as the demand rises
Cheers mark
No worries about spooking the horses! Nice
I suspect that creeping up on them is not much better
Yes the riders were impressed
Did this motorcycle have regen braking to recharge while slowing down?
Hi yes it does ...Clever stuff :)
Hi Mark
Few observations.
Love your cut see, wish others did that but I guess USP for you. I have seen you on loads of mid range bikes (appreciate this isn’t that) but this looks very small. Was that your impression? Looked like no ABS? Thought that ran through my mind was if you just had weekend rides say less than 100 miles and didn’t want to take your full test, this would be all the bike you would need. Now if only they made them look like bonnies😀
Hi Denis ....it's very quick accelerating !! I guess if you had to have a small a1 bike and didn't want to do your test then this would be great if you like the smooth quiet electric power ,and a range of say 100 miles is enough for you
Cheers mark
Thanks Mark, a really informative "first impression" of what a short ride might be like in the future. Any chance you might be able to get a long termer? That would be really interesting seeing how you got on over a week or two.
I could possibly get it long term ...I'll have to ask ....I'd love that then I really could really see it's range :)
I don't understand why the width of the rear tyre is so small on these bike? Given the torque, I would have thought that the more rubber the better be on the road.
I am trying to get quotes for insurance for the zero s 11w but every time it says no providers why is this I thought it was a bike you can ride on a cbt provisional?
Yes you should be able to
Try go compare etc if you are in UK
Cheers mark
Not my bag but I can see the fun ,the looks are not to inspiring I am surprised the lighting is not LED all round. I guess to ride is the only way to get the feel really so I would never say never until that point interesting .Cheers Mark : )
Thanks Malcolm :)
How much they paid you ?? Stock in company a bike or two
That's freakin' awesome. If they can get the price more competitive they'll sell a ton of those things. How's the dealer network?
Here in the UK there are quite a few dealers ...they are made in the USA ...so must be quite a few dealers there cheers mark
They look a load of fun, the price will come down as they become more mainstream.
It’ll all be electric one day, it’s inevitable. The horses weren’t bothered!
Thanks peter :)
Dogs hate it though. Something about the high pitch of the belt being driven drives them bananas, sadly.
I like the look of it, electric will be the future mode of travel and they are getting better with the batteries. The only hang up is the price, surely it can come into the price bracket of its fueled counterparts? I assume its low maintenance is what's pushing the price up, otherwise your review sold it for me.
Yes Neil ...I really enjoyed it ...the price is bound to drop in the future with increase supply and demand
Cheers mark
Can you just describe the feeling through the bars whilst riding? Was there any vibration at all? Great video by the way, thanks.
Hi no vibration whatsoever.. really uncanny ....I liked it ...just a totally different riding experience :)
@@markpulling12 Cheers man, thanks.
I love the howling sound of my Yamaha 1300 xjr, it's a beast. This would be for going to work. Not for fun. Not for me. But bikes are better for electric then heavy cars.
It seems a lot of fun. Did you miss the ‘feel’ and ‘sound’ of a traditional bike?
Thanks Luke....not really as it's just a different riding experience ...if I had to choose one or the other I'd go petrol but these are truly an amazing experience cheers mark
I plan to buy Zero S 14.4 but worrried about no fast charger at public charge stations.
I think the basic model they offered me has no Charge tank installed.
I have to travel 250km at Europe and needs a Type 2 fast charge option. (I live in Hungary and Type 2 AC is common here.)
This is a highly desired bike. Lot of security needed
Wondering if a manufacturer will make a hybrid. Looks like every car now has a hybrid version. Even a ford fiesta does now!
Thanks Chris that would be interesting :)
with the rising cost of fuel, Ive been considering a 125 as a cheaper commute than my diesel. These bikes seem quite cool and I like the electric concept. But the price is a bit of a put off. £14,000 for an electric motorbike when I could get a brand new Yamamha MT125 for a fraction of the price.
Yep at the moment untill the price of these comes RIGHT down I think you're better of with a 125
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 if they were half that price, it would be tempting to spend the extra money on one. But same with all electric vehicles...too expensive
IMHO it's the price and a lack of charging points that'll initially affect sales,but in a couple of years time if prices reduce and charging points become more common I can them selling better.
That said,I think where electric motorcycles score best for commuting where you only a top speed of say 80mph max or less and a range of 50 to 70 miles max,if cost was below say £7k they'd sell like hot cakes.The time will come in the not too distant I feel sure,but now as good as they are sales will be limited.
Well said about 7k price and these would be great
Great review, yes the future is electric haha, one thing i noticed is price,its way too expensive.From my point of view, electric bike should be affordable may be cost around 3000 to 4500 usa dollar in order to compete in global market especially in asian countries.Super soco and srf are great bikes,they perform great on normal road condition but there are case of offroad, non expected road, mountain roads,service cost (for example in asia), i see these bikes fails on that.May be affordable dual sport,offroad and onroad electric bike should be introduced if they have to compete global market.I see lots of videos where bike reviewer act like 8000 -15000 dollar is nothing,but it matters in asian or developing countries because there is huge market place to compete on developing countries. Otherwise Chinese will soon compete with these as they already had bike experience in asia.
Thanks for the comment...yes agreed they need to drop in price.
Cheers mark
was this a 4 mile ride?
Would absolutely love this bike. Touch out my price range. Is it true gov has stopped the £1500 grant to help??
Yes I believe so
@@markpulling12 how accurate would u say the range and charging figures are for the 2022 model ?
@@will_lifts056 hi will I'd say you get about 70 /100 miles from one of these and the charging figures are about right 👍
@@markpulling12 is that a standard one or with the power tank? Also big thank u for answering my questions really appreciate it.
I’ve bitten the bullet and pick up 22 zero s saturday
I demoed the Harley Live Wire three times. The second ride was unrestricted, meaning they let me take it out on my own. Great fun! Do I look like I have 30K? Lol.
O love electric bikes /moto. Watching this vídeo, while motorcycles pass by the apartment its annoying, it's more easier with electric bikes than a motorcycle. Furtre gen z will own these, then who'll apear something greater. But thus is a future for us
What is an “A1” motorcycle?
In the UK it's up to 15 hp
Interested in the SR/S but well... too expensive.
Review on that one soon ... amazing performance but expensive
Imagine being overtaken by one of these with L plates whilst on a full A licence machine!
Haha. Brilliant :)
I guess that would mean their probably breaking the speed limit! I get overtaken on my 800cc by scooters going 45mph in a 30mph all the time.
Can’t wait for this one 🥇❤️🇦🇺💪🏼
Thanks Stevie
Do they make an akrapovic for it. :-)
I don't know .. I couldn't see where the E10 fuel went ?? ,:)