The Fastest A1 Motorcycle: Zero S 11Kw First Ride & Review
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You do have trouble fitting the L Plates to it legally though. That rear one would probably not comply. I attached two small aluminium batons to the lower section of the rear numberplate with double-sided 3M and put the L Plate on that. The front one went onto the Commuter windshield that I had fitted. We have a local traffic cop here who has earned the nickname "Copzilla" and he apparently adores pulling over Learners for incorrectly fitted or trimmed plates. No chance with mine!
While you are getting used to the performance as a Learner, try using the Custom profile and setting it up as "Eco-lite". I started at 30% max torque and 70mph limit till I was used to the bike then just swapped to the normal Eco.
Good tips Daniel - I'll pin this comment for others to see. Cheers!
@@motobob Cheers - I can strongly recommend the rear mudguard addon too as the existing one was designed for California commuting, not Ol' Blighty!
Hey - I have this bike and bought it from that same place in the video. When I bought it they bolted my L's properly below the number plate. It's all fine and legal :)
I like how you blurred out the speed 😂
Haha... enjoyed that little stretch of road 🤘
Blurred speedo on an A1 bike. This must be a first on TH-cam!
A bit pointless considering speed can be calculated using the lane lines.
Macrike well you’d have to prove that the video hadn’t been sped up
UK always blur speeds past 45 to 50mph....idk why tho..silly
I was almost ready to sell my vespa but it seems I have to sell 6 of them...
I've been looking at zero motorcycles for some yrs now & yesterday i spotted a trails (double headlights) version in Thornbury Bristol & wow i fell in love.
So I ended up buying this exact bike you’re riding in this video from English electric motorcycle company and honestly I’m loving it, thanks for inspiring me to buy it
Enjoy! It's a it of an underrated beast I'd say. Are you on an A1 license or full?
MOTOBOB An A1 Licence, got it delivered on Wednesday and I’ve been loving it, I’ve had a lot of people come up to me asking me questions about it whenever I go out aha
The Taken Saint how old do you have to be
@@lucien2962 17 in the uk
What’s the top speed?
Prices for these electric bikes, at least in my country, are ridiculous at the moment.
that's why you get the extra power tho and a bigger price range for liability reasons I think
That looked awesome, the future is looking fun for my kids 🤘🏼
Until as Judge Dredd might say "da law catches up..."
Yeah theyll need written permission from the politburo comitttee before they can walk listening to the cucks on here
Your kids must be rich to afford an £11k bike.
that's a beautiful and such a rapid overtake of those car!!! 😱👍
The key thing is not so much the range but the charging time. The technology for a ten minute charge time on a Kia car was reported this morning on BBC news...wont be long now.
i love the sound of proper petrol engine but I wouldnt mind this one to be honest, i think its great to have more electric bikes around just like i love the teslas, its really cool to have more choices
You can set the custom mode torque to say 5%, full regen braking, and set the max speed between 60-120, easier to learn on
Brilliant video would love to see you take the Macrais Z8X London Uk Electric CBT Z1000
I will buy such a bike as soon as the charging speed and battery life are much better than today but damm that power output is huge and fast!!!
That's the same place RJ went :D I can't wait till they're more affordable and the charging infrastructure is all sorted
Yeah they’re really good folks who know how to put on a good day for vloggers. And yeah I agree - once the price comes down I’ll have a petrol and an electric ideally
Good video and review, mate!
Cheers David - appreciate it
I don't know much the premium suspension rises the cost, but I'd be more than OK with a regular suspension (something similar to what most well recognized brands use for their 125cc offerings) if it meant overall cost to be reasonable.
Very quick and very heavy for a learner 180kg that's the same as a lot of 500's and someone else in the comments said about hitting 70 in eco mode so Christ knows what this thing is capable of.
100+
@@Niggleblade198682mph top speed
A lot of rich learners are going to end up in hedges
Many learners in the u.s. start on 600cc supersport motorcycles so they will be fine just be careful and don't be a idiot.
Not hedges sadly , mortuary slabs
When I did my cbt the guy told me that some guy came in with a full carbon fiber aprilia and then crashed it on the first turn.
I'm looking at getting the zero s
@@illuforce the US has long straight roads compared to uk
I'd be totally into this if it weren't so cost prohibitive. I'm still waiting for prices of electric cars to go down.
Ditto. My dream is to have one of each - a petrol bike and an electric bike. But until the prices come down a bit, I'll stick with the ST
@@motobob I imagine there are some young ones with some extra cash that will have a blast on this.
Is this the same for the zero sf/r or is that an a license bike?
My biggest concern is running out of juice and needing to charge due to country road cruising. Elsewise I’m looking at one myself.
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It’s not my daily lid, but it’s so good for motovlogging because it has good sound insulation and the visor seals well. So I’ll keep using it for motovlog for now I think...
Great videos would like to see lot more learner legal electric bikes
Can you revert the 11kw version to the full power version
That bike was MENTAL to ride ✊ cant believe you can ride it on Ls
That 11Kw is constant power, but max power is 44Kw. Electric motorcycles are classified by their constant power and this can sustain 100km/h speed at 11Kw. If you got the knowledge you could build bike like this for 6000 euros because price of batteries have gone down and controllers and motors aren't that expensive either.
TheNone724 yup motors are dirt cheap. I just built my own electric motorcycle and it’s just as fast for a fraction of the cost. Electric motorcycle are the future. Parts are so easily swappable it feels like building a desktop computer. So easy and so much power. My bike is 5 Seconds 0-100kph with a 8kw motor hub with peak of 16kw. Pretty fast for a motor hub vs a belt driven system. I prefer quiet bike and no moving parts so less maintenance.
Someone settle something for me. I drive a BMW 330d mapped to 320 bhp and a friend told me he would beat me to 60 on a 125cc as he said he rode one in school that got to 60 2.7 seconds. Would any 125cc bike get to 60 in anywhere near that time?
That's a big catch
Well, ill see how much i can pay it monthly with work because I'm getting one of these for college
What about insurance who can insure on cbt ?
Listen man if they can legalise this after a cbt then they should make it so cbt at least allows you up to 250cc.... a lot of 125s just aren't cut out for it even for commuting in traffic. You have problems over taking.
As a driver looking to switch over to bikes as London goes all bonkers with Environmental policies this bike is pretty much what I'm looking to go for for the foreseeable future... whether it's worth getting a full bike licence is debatable what with petrol will be a dead fuel in 20 years....
I agree that petrol licence is expensive and time consuming... it's a lot of hassle. A bike like this would be perfect for the city if you can afford it
would love to get one - but the price tag is still pretty hurting
Would you say that the S model is a sufficient for a commuter to and from work and to have some fun on the highway? Just the base model i mean. Or does the fun come with the extra cost of the 14.4 kwh battery?
I was curious of the same thing. I'm thinking it's a trade-off between smaller battery (but lower total weight) and larger battery (but heavier bike).
I see your comments on all of these Zero videos... Have you gotten yourself one yet?
@@Gaverny I wish, I have tons of debt to pay off lol
@@M1XEDBAG I'm sorry. Yeah im right there with ya. It's been fun researching though. A month ago I had never even heard of Zero and was thinking I was looking at 650cc class of regular bikes. Now I'm obsessed with these 🔋 🤔
Can I have the link to this one please
This is almost worth holding back and saving for as a new rider but I wouldn’t get to complacent because sure electric is the future but get use to using a clutch because god forgot it gets taken out crash or what ever I doubt you will get enough for one again xD
Been trying to get quotes for insurance on this bike but every single provider says they cant give me quotes? I got my cbt just so i can get this bike 😒
Well belive it I think it's great for learners as they get ready and expect the power when they come to their Class A. Problem I have with the current CBT A1 A2 rubbish is that you need pay lots of money to practice on more power and get used to it for your full test. This bike provides the acceleration needed to get used to a 600cc or eahatever examiner accepts. I hate bike nerds trying to say no to others, they forgot to keep their nose out and just mind their own business after all it is still 11kw. The nsr 125 only produces over 11kw above 5krpm so they limited the revs with electric a small mosfet current regulator limits it to 11kw
a very fun commuter moto bike, it can out run litter bike from light to light.
Can I purchase and ride this bike if I pass my CBT ?
Yes if ur 17 plus
I can’t find this model on zero site lowest kw bike they have is 20?
www.englishelectricmotorco.com/s-sr-electric-sportsbike-zero-motorcycles/
Haha did you blurred the speed? Ok im curious now
🤷♂️
When charging this bike at home does it have a large impact on your electric bill?
And is this legal on a CBT licence?
And any ideas on where in Scotland I can go and have a look at these?
Hi - you can get it from Saltire Motorcycles in Edinburgh - www.saltiremotorcycles.com/. Legal on a CBT and that's why everyone is surprised because it has way faster acceleration than a 125cc (quicker acceleration than my Honda NC750x). Home charging is roughly £2.60 to fully charge from empty for about 100 miles of mixed riding. So 200 miles a week for £5. I've bought one - picking up this Saturday.
If you get the quick charge, it will only take an hour to charge.
@@ericrobinson2853Did you like it mate?
Love zero bikes, I just wish they'd give a bit more thought to style as they do look 'functional'. I don't think I could enjoy cleaning and looking at it which is a big part of what bike ownership is for me.
I've got a review of the SRF coming - just need to edit it. I think it's a much better looking bike - they've got the proportions right.
Zero doesn’t really care to make it look like a real gasoline motorcycle. They purposely made it look like that because of those batteries are set up in that configuration. Please show us the SRF. I really want to see it as well as you review it.
I recently got the new Honda cbf125, I've had a few 125s and this Honda is an absolute beast compared. Somehow this bike here is making my Honda look weak.
Weird one here they advertise it as just the long range model " Zero S offers the highest range in the Zero lineup." which makes sense lower the output increase the range most petrol 125's are fine on UK roads for 90% of commuter travel. buutt :D why is it bang on 11kw and not 15kw...that's the marketing it's on the European limit and that's for petrol 11kw. On a petrol 125 you'll see that 11kw for a very short time as it gets you to 72-80mph in 14 secs or up to 60 mph in 13.
11kw on an electric? Well that's all the time. So suddenly those 125 specs aren't an issue,
Going up hill? 11kw
Hitting a head wind? 11kw
Off the line? 11kw.
That is the difference and one the petrol 125's can't hit Suzuki's 125 gsxr is lightest in class and still the performance of the 11 year old YZF pretty much this is is the equivalent of an SV with a tune towards acceleration.
Also slight Spanish correction Juan sounds more like one no hard J
The price will kill this. Batteries are too expensive.
As an 18 year old, this bike looks awesome but I don't think I'd be comfortable getting on one of these having only done a CBT. I prefer classic bikes (and cars) anyway though. Even though they don't have the same sort of features there's something nice about how simple and honest they are. Great video as usual man. Keep up the good work and ride safe ✌️
Cheers DG! Yeah I know what you mean - there’s still something nice about a simple machine. But electric bikes are addictive once you get into them. And they’re simple in their own way too - no clutch, gears, generator, starter motor, cranks, pistons, fuel tanks, air boxes etc etc. Just a battery and an electric motor!
@@motobob Yeah that's true. Would you ever daily drive an electric bike do you think or are they more of a fun little thing to hoon around on do you think?
@@dangreenwood1657 I actually think they make more sense as a commuter, because you know the fixed length of your journey and can buy the appropriate battery size. But would also need a petrol bike for the weekends to go and get lost on :)
@@motobob That's true but it'd be a real pain if you hadn't plugged it in properly the night before or something and had to get to work. I guess for short commutes it could make a lot of sense though. And yeah of course. You don't need a destination, just a bike, the open road and some petrol :)
That's why I'm looking at this bike, no clutch or gears. 👍
Yea I would totally die with one of these
Rough calculation if all the other cycle parts cost £3k you're paying £10k for a battery?
Electric bikes still sell in relatively small volumes - Zero as a company aren't in profit yet. The market needs to scale before the prices come down I think. Same story for Harley with the LiveWire at £30k. Perhaps when Triumph and the Japanese big four get their projects to the market, things might change as they start to compete on price?
Battery actually costs like £2000 . . in those £13k there is marketing and development costs and they need to ear profit so as dealer !
@@Ray88G wrong! 14.4Kw battery costs nearly £6K
@@ericrobinson2853 That a retail price. A battery can be build for allot cheaper than that max 3k. Here in UK we have battery wholeseller.. A batt that size would be around 2k
@@Ray88G well that sounds very good if I need to replace the battery in the future. Sorry for digging you up about it. I would prefer LiFePO4 batteries to the Li-ion that are installed anyway. Lets see how many miles/years I get out the original battery first though!
Is traction better on this bike than the dsr,just curious.
I guess the tyres are more road orientated, so perhaps marginally. But there's not a great deal of difference between the two bikes.
@@motobob ,oh ok ty
I’m getting one that’s that
We’re do I get the money for this at 17😔
What's the price tag and how much is the insurance for a first time riders
I got mine for 10k ex-demo nearly 4 years ago
can a guy who weights 350 right this bike?
I want one 😎
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Is the 7.2
So the A1 variant is allowed can to do a peak of 59bhp but only continuous of 14.7 bhp ?
If this is the case, I can't see the legislators ignoring this for long if more affordable A1 electric bikes are made and lots of learners are on rocket ship bikes.
I thought electric bikes gave rapid acceleration due to max torque at zero rpm.
It is an impressive machine , I was tempted around the time I bought my Honda Cb125r. The extra £6500 and questionable resale value (although would have I wanted to get rid of it?) put me off.
(plus charging)
Now all they need is the bass tube fake exhaust, and to make one for £5k :)
Second hand going for 9-10 g
@@eileencashmore543 Yeah, a bit too dear for me . Plus I passed my test 2 1/2 years ago :)
1:35 were you going 40 kmph for legal reasons? 😁😁👍
The tm smr 125?👁👄👁
13K is way too much for that power.... I'd be getting a petrol now.... 😂😂😂
Macrais.com
And get smoked 🤣
Its insane lol, but as others have said, whos gonna put down that kind of cash when they only done a CBT lol.
I wish I had that £££ when I was that age. The thing I didn’t really mention is that the cost of ownership and charging is pretty damn cheap on electrics. But still out of reach for most A1 riders
Some kid at my work has got Piaggio Vespa a few weeks ago, that cost him about £8k he past his CBT a week before. The is people out there that will splash the cash tbh
What is the chin camera?
GoPro Session
@@motobob thanks.
"learners bike" looks as fast as my 600, sure
Can limit the speed through the app
Speedometer blurred lol
0 -100km/h or 0 - 60mp/h??
Will be mph the videos made in the UK
Too quick for novices. Wouldn't let my kids on one.
Garambaly Omatic you can actually customize the speed and torque on the app
I love the idea of electric commute's but 19k is still way over what i can afford :(
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2:30 SLOW signs on asphalt, he accelerates (sry for bad english)
Your English seems pretty good to me
I was laughing out loud 😂
road: “slow”
nobody not even a single soul:
motobob: “BLOODY HELL”
😂
in norway we can get a a1 motorcycle license at 16 haha
Wow 1 year 🙄
@@Niggleblade1986 and. a year is a while
@@Acore-ly9qx and u got 12gs at 16?
Pretty much a mid range 500cc
5&10 hrs, respectively, charge time and ur not even getting 100 miles cruising that's what puts me off its basically a really expensive commuter with almost too much power for the job it can be used for.
The idea is that you charge this overnight while you’re sleeping.
@@Macrike yeah I got that but still I've done journeys that are well over 100 miles and I can't recall seeing a charging point at the petrol garages I passed or used so then what do I do on my zero when it conks out or what if ur going on a trip and half way down the motorway and boop it dies if my petrol runs out ta da I have emergency fuel in a jerry can in my pannier, granted it won't complete the journey but its enough to get me to a petrol station.
whats being 17 got to do with anything, some 17 yr old's are more responsible than older people riding or driving
I think this thing make 0 to 60 m/h in 2.3 seconds.
I'm pretty sure the law will change to cover these electric bikes and how the power is measured.
I think so too... the difference is crazy
Yeah more bloody laws and infringment on freedoms. Just what we need....
Some new laws needed. Just as the Yamaha 250lc was the bike that introduced the 125 learner law all those years ago.
Possibly will see that happen yeah. It’s crazy how fast it is
I guess when affordable A1 electric bikes are available then the law will change. Currently it is only rich 17 to 19 year olds likely to get one. Will their Mums and Dads fund one of these? (if they know what it is capable of)
It’s J One 😂
the more you point it out the faster the law will change...
I wonder if electric motorcycle need a driver’s license?
Yes you do need a license!
why is a 11kw motorcycle more expensive than the more powerfull zero options
Its not
The price of a new battery will absolutely make your jaw drop.... in this video I see that they display the five year warranty on the battery sticker notice.Ask the dealer owner what the cost of a new battery is if it goes bad after the warranty expires. If that person tells you that the battery cost is under $20,000, you get them to sign a document guaranteeing that low price and get it notarized and witnessed. Also get them to guarantee that they will supply you with a brand new battery for that price in writing,and get that witnessed and notarized......I am not going to tell you how much because you will not believe how much the battery costs.. A friend of mine has zero that he screwed up And ran his battery down too low., he tried everything that the reps on the phone told him to do Trying to bring the battery back to life, he made many calls, searched the Internet,they concluded that his battery is bad and needs replaced.His zero has been sitting for over a year now in the corner of his garage with no battery in it. He is going to part the machine out..If you are considering buying an electric vehicle, please do yourself a favor and find out how much a replacement battery costs. I’m sure the price will come down, ..........someday
Yeah of cause, a 16000€ bikes battery will cost 20000€ 😂😂😂
the chain
I don’t know how much that is in real money, but I’m glad you checked for yourself. I didn’t believe it either. Call your local zero motorcycle dealer and ask for a price of a battery. people told me that the battery can be rebuilt, if you do it yourself, they think, for approximately US$6000. ...It’s $6000 for each of the seven sections of the battery. 7×6 = 42
Probably 2-3k retail. Just treat it bad after 4 years and make use of the warranty.
If you play the whole "do you design your batteries to die after 4 years" card theyll replace it free no hassle
Fake news man, an engine rebuild after 5 years would cost more than a new batt, sounds like ur friends been messing!! All these batts protect them self's from over discharge or they would all go wrong.
How many learners will be able to afford that... that looked rapid. Thats more bhp than a royal enfield 650 wtf.... how long before kids are wrapping themselves around lamp posts , and they rethink the rules mmmm 🤔
Needsa fake 1000cc bike noise or a getto blaster strapped to the front forks then folks will hear you comming:)
Or you could just strap your empty wallet to the forks instead !
Jesus Christ anyone wanna lend me 13k for my 17th?
Brah that bike is 16k
£15,000 tho god dayumn
No the most fun you can have with an a1 license is a 2 stroke 125 like a ktm exc or a husqvarna wr
gust LIFF trust me try out a zero fxs and you’ll change your mind
this really shouldn't be given to new riders. sport mode will get you killed. 100% torque at all times... (and yes I own one...)
I had no problem on a GPZ 750 30 years ago with sod all. What whiney pussies people have become
The price would deter new riders unless they're rich or have a lot saved up lol.
@@iank2196 yeah, google 'new motorcycle rider crash'... no 'new' rider needs a motorcycle than can do 0-60 in 3 seconds.
Aprilia rs125 has a higher top speed
No, the zero can go 98 and Aprilia 80
@@leoc4 do 120 aprilla rs125
Sounds like dying cats getting there though
It's def not a good learner bike 😆 thing is like a 750cc
I see a future where a bunch of "rich kids" going to die or be seriously injured on this motorcycle. This is what happens when regulation can't keep up with technology.