Muay Thai Applying the Hip in Roundhouse Kicks Tutorial
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- Paul Gilligan, Muay Thai Kru and Head Instructor of Waterloo Street Gym in Bolton is here filmed by the Warrior Collective giving a step by step tutorial on how to properly utilise the hip in applying the roundhouse kick (dteh) in Muay Thai.
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He's actually over rotating the shin downward such that his kneecap is facing slightly downwards. And because his shin is moving slightly upwards, his shin ends up rolling into the target which diffuses a lot of the impact energy.
One of the tips I picked up from a pro Muay Thai fighter is that you leave the knee facing slightly up because the blade of the shin bone is slightly on the inside shin. Luke Rockhold gave the same tip to my son at an autograph signing.
I used to do a completely horizontal kick and it looked pretty and sounded great on impact, but it didn't seem to translate well to sparring or generate a ton of power. When I first saw a bunch of pro fighters kicking at a 45% angle upwards or even mostly upwards, I thought it was sloppy technique. But when I started sparring and people were catching me with an upward kick because it was a faster more direct kick, I began to change my kick. I started working with some very good kickers and they were all doing the diagonally up kick and it had a lot more power when I held Thai pads for them. All the best Muay Thai fighters seemed to be doing the same thing so I gave it a try.
What I've found is that while the upward angle might a less efficient impact trajectory, it makes up by being more mechanically efficient, more powerful, and a quicker time to impact due to the straighter path. It also makes it possible to sneak under the elbow and catch the lower rib cage if the kick is accurately thrown. It's also harder to tell if the kick is coming towards the head or the body since they have a very similar trajectory.
I completely agree! I've had a similar experience to yours. I had to completely "relearn" my kicks when I trained in Thailand: lean back slightly and throw the leg up at about 45degrees with almost completely straight leg and a short snappy twist at the end of the kick, keeping your head pretty still. Nowhere near as much turning as this guy does. And turning your face away like this guy does - big no no!
Yay, over turning also tears your knee up by twisting it ever so slightly as it impacts. BUT... having said that... the dudes kicks still look good. Better than most I would say. I wouldn't fancy that round my guts after coming out of a sit-down curry meal. good video... really important detail as well that most people ignore unless they are forced to address it.
***** nice reply...
***** I have always had the most luck practicing to kick down. An opponents quadriceps face upwards. Most people can't kick down at the upward facing leg. I was one the better guys at leg kicking in my MMA club. As far as people seeing a kick (punch before you kick) and they are not going to see it coming. Most of the MMA guys would never practice the downward kick.
Downward kick or horizontal kick makes sense for leg kicks. It's harder to check than a diagonally upward cut kick, though the tradeoff is that it takes longer to reach the target than a cut kick.
What my problem with the video was that in the video, the student's shin was on a slight upward path which calls for the shin to face slightly up. But the student had the shin facing downward and it caused him to roll the shin into the target such that the outside of his lower leg slapped the target.
The diagonally upward cut kick to the ribs is far more effective because it sneaks under the elbow and it delivers a much stronger kick. This is the type of kick Crocop used to get liver shot KOs.
Brilliant. The mention of the shoulder forward makes a lot of sense and I have never heard it before from anyone. Thank you.
great teacher, has nice simple details that help to explain the proper technique
I've done karate, taekwondo, american kickboxing, and now am in Thailand doing muay thai kickboxing. It is funny how much time I have spent modifying and changing my basic roundhouse kick. Thai trainers are very talented, but it is nice to be able to hear the lesson in my native language! Thanks.
I know exactly where you are coming from, there are huge differences between all those styles as to how a roundhouse kick is thrown. Can lead to many a frustrated student who tries to either train in more than one or transitions. I am glad you enjoyed this great tutorial from Gilly, make sure you check out some of the others on this channel when you get chance and let me know what you think!
Your student keeps turning his head back as he kicks. Very dangerous. Just pointing it out. Great video!
tile late Gilly's student in this video was chosen because of the fact he was a beginner. The point was to emphasise the use of hip in the kick. The student is now, as you rightfully pointed out, turning his head way too much when he kicks but that is something they are very much aware of. He has trained himself out of doing that since this video was made!
Stuart Tomlinson Great that he's continuing his journey as a martial artist. I am not a beginner of martial arts however I am a beginner of muay thai. Training in Singapore!
tile late actually, it's not bad, or dangerous in regard to technique..so long as you're covering up
McDarren Paschal if you are not seeing how can you defend? What if he does a quick counter?
tile late Your eye is distracted for a fraction of a second. Many Thai fighters whip their body and the head loses sight of your opponent. The more important thing is your balance which if your foot is turned you have much more of. Remember in Muay Thai it is the kick that scores not the catch so it you are caught but show balance then you are the superior fighter in that exchange. It is the job of the catcher to off balance you or score with a response. I agree that the head turn is a little excessive but as the student stretches more and practices purposefully then this minor issue will be resolved. I welcome your comments as it makes me acknowledge where I need to grow.
Could you please do a video on the stretching regiment you have your fighters go through?
Good tips. When I first started Muay Thai I was so stiff and found it difficult to turn the hips. Stretching is very important!
What stretches do you do to loosen up the hips?
I have always struggled with getting enough hip into my kicks. I am not pleased with my kicking game at all.... This video is really helpful, and this Instructor is an amazing teacher. Dude, you always have such great content; I love it.
KickBoxingAtHome Hey, that is an amazingly kind comment, I am glad you have been enjoying the channel! Gilly is a great instructor (he is a maths teacher by day) and has a great way of putting his points across!
Stuart Tomlinson You know what's funny? Just this morning, I was looking for how to contact you b/c I wanted to tell you how impressed I am with all the constant AWESOME content you send our way. It is really incredible, dude! You have got one of the most useful resources for anybody interested in fighting. World class. (Feel free to contact me sometime)
Christopher Hinton Hey, that means a lot! I have been involved in martial arts all my life, this is hopefully one of my ways of giving back to something that has helped me out so much! I do put a lot of work into it (you may not realise it but the warrior collective is just me, a one man band, to do all the visits, filming etc ha ha) so it is always great to hear cool comments and fantastic feedback! I am a big fan of all the martial arts (as you may have gathered from my mix of videos) and love to travel and meet new people so it is a pleasure in all honesty to do what I do! I am just planning some filming trips to Singapore and Japan at the moment so lots more to come in the future! You never know, we may even meet at some point!! Thanks once again!!
Wow, this helped me more than any vid on youtube dude!
Two days ago got some hip pain from roundhouse kicks. But with these tips the pain is completely gone and I can kick again! wow I'm just amazed. Thannks man!
You brought up a good point with the lateral aspect of the muay thai kick. Though the traditional power kick is done at about a 20-30 degree angle--lazy instructors allow and students end up just kicking upwards instead of maintaining that angle or coming more sideways. Question: did you or anyone else notice that your assistant turns his head completely to the rear when he kicks? In Thailand, some trainers will teach a head dip when the kick impacts...but never to turn completely to the rear. Bad habit as you will lose your sight picture completely and risk not being able to react to your opponent's reaction to your kick as quickly.
Food for thought.
saamagmuaythai glad you enjoyed the vid, you obviously speak from experience. The student used in the tutorial was a beginner. Paul realises that the next step for him is to not turn his head when pivoting for the kick. This was a case of exaggerating the pivot to get the kick, as this was something the student was struggling with, but the head turn was an unnecessary/unwanted product of this. The fundamentals are there to fine tune going forward!
Just wish to comment on the head turn with the kick. I apologise for not focusing on the head turn it is something I should of mentioned. As Craig's technique and flexibility improves his hips will come through more and as such will not turn his head. I emphasise the hip turn because many people build false confidence in there kicks who when they spar becomes diminished as there kicks are ineffective. Thank you for pointing out the head turn but please accept that I would always emphasise focus on the target for those who are at the level of fighting. Thank you Stuart for these amazing videos.
Could you give us the stretching routine?
Paul Gilligan Hey, it is a great tutorial, thank you for your time and expertise in order to make it! As I have commented on a number of times, beginners make mistakes, you correct one at a time and in the right mechanical order. The over exaggeration of the head turn is what helped him gain the use and power in the hip for the kick. I am sure that he will reduce that as he gets more experienced! I hope you are well, great haircut ;-)
Excellent breakdown. Detailed explanations. I now know where i'm making my mistakes. Keep posting more vids! Thanks!
SottoLwrence Glad you found it so useful, don't worry, there are lot's more in the pipeline!!
Thanks a lot! Loved the simple language, the breakdowns and the examples. This was very beneficial for me. Good job! :)
Damiso McCalla One of the little things that is important to get right, glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video. I'm solo training kicks as part of my fitness regimen and my interest in MA. I've really fallen for Muay Thai and practice the basics. My roundhouse has gotten more natural, but I'm constantly checking my technique. This is the best vid I've come across breaking it down.
Hey, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, it is really great to hear how much you have enjoyed this tutorial and taken from it!
He look like James May from TopGear UK
in a nappy
djamesfrancis dare you to say it in his face
wtf is that head turn?
Exactlly :))
it is used to turn your body completely. you wont do that in actual sparring, just when practicing
yeah the guy is new as the instructor said. he chose the new guy for the video so it resonates with beginners more. and he was told to turn his head back as he kicks. its effective when youre first learning the kick.
very good attitude for engraining good hip turn.
That's what I noticed too
Good tips here. I've never thought to turn my rear shoulder in as soon as execution begins. Also, I'm going to practice round house knees to try and improve my hip movement. Thank you! It'd just be good to know how to get the same power and technique without turning the head so much
Something I haven't been aware of in my years of training is to bring that rear arm forward as you pointed out when you step into the kick. I'll train this and I'm sure I'll see an improvement. Thank you!
This tutorial is very helpful I have problem thrusting my hips when throwing a roundhouse kick I always kick upwards now I know what's wrong. Will surely keep what I learned from this video in mind the next time I train again. Thanks for the tutorial! :D
QueenLatisha M In fairness, there are different variations on the roundhouse kick in Muay Thai. Straight up with a kink at the top, 45 degrees into the target, 90 degrees into the target and cutting down into the target are all legitimate ways to utilize it. Context is of course important, glad you found it useful though!
You are a fantastic teacher.
Good shoulder tip, will try it tomorrow
Very good teaching tech. Bravo
the coach is awesome!
This is very helpful. the baseball bat analogy helped me understand. thanks!
Tio Rico Glad you found it useful, it is nice when you watch something that gives you that Eureka moment ha ha
Great video!
Trusty Fedora Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful!
this is great! helped my kicking game tremendously
Good video on the basic kick....I can appreciate him making reference to the twisting of the hip....I just wonder how many people have gotten hip or knee issues over the years from not doing the kick properly...ie osteoarthritis or hip arthritis? I was going to point out the head turn but others have already stated that. Keep up the good videos.
great explanations, lucky the students who learn under somebody demanding good body mecanics. cheers
Thanks. Excellent tutorial.
Raul Vieira You are welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
I have learned a lot! Superbe. Thank you! Long live!
ikust007 Really pleased you have taken some from this tutorial with Gilly!!
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very informative, great teacher!!
JamesCThebestFighter! 1 Glad you enjoyed it, Gilly is a great instructor!
Nice video! You said at the beginning that you got your student on a better stretching regime. Flexibility is really limiting my kicking effectiveness and is taking a long time to get any better. Do you have any suggestions for increasing kicking flexibility?
Cheers.
James Hewson Glad you enjoyed the vid, flexibility for kicking encompasses a few different mechanics. Dynamic, passive and PNF stretching all have their place in aiding the development of the kicker. Is it Muay Thai in which you train?
Yes muay thai
Stuart Tomlinson HI, great video. Nice literal explanations. Really helpful. Id like some tips on stretching to achieve higher than middle torso kicks too. Low chop and mid thigh, great! BUt any higher and I'm struggling… I know i should be stretching but what stretches can i do each day to slowly improve.
I love the baseball bat analogy! That's an easy image to remember when trying to drill this.
lol what is that head turn? he doesnot see when his opponent is countering lol
The head turn helps turn the body. Its good for beginners to get their bodies use to turning that much. Plus it's hard to counter when you get the living shit kicked out of you
exactly what i was thinking, if i saw my opponent do that in a fight or sparring i would try and capitalize in that every time he kicks!
I just started a beginners class today, was a lot of fun. I'm finding it difficult to remember to stay in stance and use my shoulder whilst kicking.
Stuart could you please get Paul Glligan to do a video on stretching the hips and flexibility drills for Muay Thai roundhouse kicks
Great demonstration. However you’re demonstrating Tae Tad (cutting/parallel kick). The rising oblique kick isn’t wrong at all but it’s a different kick Tae Chieng (oblique kick) which is a very old traditional kick actually. When you see Thai boxers speeding the hundred kicks on the pads, it’s rather the later one.
Woooow such great explanation
excellent lesson, thanks
This is a great demonstration of a kickboxing roundhouse kick, its prefectly executed! Your knee shouldnt have a 90 degree bend, when your shin connects with the pads, as you arent demonstrating a muay thai roundhouse kick correctly. The kick that is being demonstrated in the video is a kickboxing roundhouse kick!
Love this guy, hes a very good trainer
Does the shoulder then come back as you drive the hip forward as you turn, do you have a video on how to improve balance and stretching?
Really helpful thank y xxx
Great video
For sure, glad you enjoyed it!
Top video. Any details on the stretching regime used prior to this?
Hey, glad you liked it! Unfortunately I do not have a copy of the stretching regime in question here but there are a number of other flexibility videos on this channel that may be of use!!
Thank you sir
Decent kick but completely takes his eye from the target. 'eye of the tiger'
LEE DICKENS Thanks for commenting, Gilly used a beginner in this tutorial to demonstrate how he exaggerated the process of applying the hip into the kick to help him get it. He is over rotating his head as a result, which both Gilly and the student are aware of. You are correct in your observation!
thank you so much. This is perfect. I've just had a light bulb moment due to this video.
FYPNLP You are sincerely welcome, I am glad you enjoyed it and found it useful!
Everybody mentioning the head movement watch Toby smith when he throws right round kicks his head twists almost fully round for a split second, can't be too dangerous as it seems to be working pretty well for him
Matt Nelson taksinlek and petchdam do the same thing actually many Thai do it so I agree that it not that dangerous
Whats the stretching regime Paul is talking about in the beginning?
that knee tip is great. I'm going to try it on my B.O.B.
This is great, but my question is on the pivot. I've seen different thoughts on how and when to do this. Some say that you should do a 180 degree pivot almost before the kick is thrown so that the heel on the pivoting foot is pointed at the opponent. Others say that the inital pivot should be about 90 degrees. Big problem for me is throwing the kick on a heavy bag vs shadow boxing, since the bag acts as a third limb and helps keep my balance. But with shadowboxing trying a 180 is very difficult. Also not sure whether to "hop" into the pivot or not. And of course, looking at various videos of various fighters shows that there is no one "right" way to do this. I guess I have to find what works and feels right for me. But it's very frustrating at times!
Art Golden Each fighter (with guidance from their instructor(s) will develop something of their own way of throwing the same technique (and it will be successful as long as it shares the same mechanics to generate the required force). The pivot is important but how much is required will also depend on the angle of the kick you are throwing. Into fresh air, you have two options, spin the kick all the way through (do a 360 degree circle to take you pack into your stance) or chamber the kick more from your knee and land it forward or back! Listen to your instructor on this one! Glad you enjoyed the vid though!!
Stuart Tomlinson Thanks!
Stuart Tomlinson Would you possibly have Paul Gilligan's stretching routine? I need to increase my flexibility
Thanks!
Unfortunately I do not, you are not the first person to ask though ha ha. I may well have to make revisit just to film this routine, it seems like there is a lot of interest in it!
tyler1 be kicking😲
Yeah, what's up with the excessive neck turn?
could you possibly post the stretching routine Please
Head coach sounds like Ramsey Bolton frm GoT haha
Great vid anw
Thank you!
How long has he been training at you gym? His technique is looking great! Thanks for the video, it's a great tutorial. :) .
Amanda Rogers Thanks for the great comments, Gilly's student here had only been training with him about 9 months at this point! Glad you enjoyed it!
I can understand this better because the guy turns his head along; to show where your body should be facing at the end. can u guys stop acting like know it all. the guy and coach would knew better, but this is a demo and they're splitting the move. this video is good, feels like I'm in his class.
The turning of the head is a contentious point but as I have pointed out on a number of occasions now, even top level fighters still do it in order to gain maximum torque in their hips when delivering power roundhouse kicks to the body. There are obviously those that don't and it is a arguable point that turning the head takes the eyes off the opponent but horses for courses and all that. If it works for you and you don't suffer negatively from doing it, go for it!! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I am really glad you enjoyed the video!
Very nice kick.. but the neck turns so much. Thanks for posting!
Glad you liked the video, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Everytime I twist my hips I end up landing the kick with the outside part of my shin where it is muscle. How do I fix this? Every kick I see on the internet lands with a bend in the knee also. When I kick the bag is the only time I can land on a relatively flat angle and on the shin with a bent leg whereas when I am kicking pads it is almost straight up or at a 45 degree angle.
med4u1 try to think that muay Thai kick is done by moving your ass instead of your leg. harden your leg muscle don't let it move freely and kept it slightly bend then twist your butt bringing your leg to the target. not thigh moving shin but your hip moving the whole leg and do what ever you need to keep your knee on the thrown leg 20 degree up your shin bone will hit the target. similarly to kicking the bag, you twist your hip more upward. hope this help
Overturning hips is generally for head kicks. Regardless, still a good excercise!
I'm new to this, i use snap kicks, we bend our knee when kicking, why aren't you bending your knee?
Bien.. pero no se quita la vista del oponente.. mis respetos..
What stretching routine did you put him on? I'm struggling with my right roundhouse cause I've got a tight left hip
try russian twists bro
Elliot Hulse trains Muay Thai?
The technical execution was poor, but the details given by the instructor was solid 🤘
I don't like how he turns his head away from the target as he executes his kick. That should have been corrected.
Quest Page I think I may have mentioned this before, you are completely correct. This was intentionally a beginner whom the tutorial was done with by the instructor. As you can see, the fighter has got into a bad habit over turning the head as he has progressively got better at pivoting into the roundhouse kick. Sometimes though you have to fix one problem before you can work on another, every beginner is always a work in progress! Thanks for watching!
He needs to keep his head forward.
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.......I see the technique he is using to help him turn his hips, He's turning his head so that he's looking behind himself where the head goes the body follows, good technique yes, BUT any moment that he isn't looking at his opponent, is a vantage for the opponent and an opportunity for them to knock him out. he has to find another feeling or notice another movement of the body that allows him to turn the hip without turning his head to where he cant see his opponent.
When I first filmed this tutorial I actually thought along similar lines. However, firstly, this student was at this time a relative novice and the mechanics of the turn had helped him immensely with regards being able to throw the kick. Secondly, I have actually seen a few high level fighters continue utilising this head turn to help drive the kick harder at times. You can of course argue that it leaves you vulnerable as you are not able to see but some still do favour the advantage of more power in the shot through their increased torque. Risk and Reward I guess. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment though!
I really liked the baseball bat reference.
just try to kick with your shin completely parallel with the target,that's how I got it working
also that kicking shoulder past other side is a great tip ;)
It bothers me people keep commenting on the head turn. I bet only a handful really noticed it, the rest noticed it after reading the comments. To me his body doesnt look like a beginner because he looks really fit. Im 23 and just started learning muay thai :( . I hope its not late for me to learn how to deal with bullies >:(
Класс 👍
This guy knows what he is talking about.
Thanks for the great comment, Gilly is an excellent instructor, I am glad you enjoyed the tutorial
thank you for the great video :)
Só não entendi porque o cara que chuta olha para trás 🤔
Great video but I'm sorry. You NEVER look away when kicking.
why is he turning his head so much? 180 degrees?
First thing I noticed was his head turning all the way back
is this really traditional muay thai? I would say very few, if any, thai fighters twist like that. muaythai is not about single powerful blows like karate, teakwondo but it's geared towards sport and fighting opponents who are skilled. the twist is probably the most minimal because you fight as if your opponent would overcome or evade so you seldom over commit by pivoting too much!
Don't get me wrong I prefer this kicking style. But I've been influenced by American kickboxing, karate and teakwondo!
You have to turn your head, even master toddy makes his students do that for the sake of practicing, this is just technique work if you cant tell
What’s he lookin at back there!?
Hes not looking at the target tho..danger for counters
That's got to be a wig!
corey twyman Ha ha, it is not a wig, I repeat, it is not a wig!
your student head keeps turning every time he kick not good
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A person of few words but great taste I can always appreciate ha ha, thanks for watching and commenting!
I understand he's a beginner and maybe didn't know but if you're going to do a tutorial on something you have to assume that people who don't know will copy everything including that head spin
Over rotation and he moves his head backwards, very dangerous. Keep eyes on opponent all the time.
Imagine what happens if your opponent leans back.
The student should improve the balance...after kicking he's always bad positioned :P Good video!
Turn your shoulder with your hips. When I kick, you kick, we kick.
Gilly was a bully drunk glad he's out of Bolton he fell out with all his fighters and everyone in general with his moods hope he's found peace in his heart
I'm back 😂😂😂😂😂
But isn't he turning his hip too much? I mean If he misses that kick, he would risk turning his back on the opponent
hahaha waaa chhhhh... neck spins off his head lol.
the head spin is a contentious point ha ha but it definitely does help apply the hip. I have seen even top fighters continue with this head turn.
I keep kicking up... Need to work the living hell out of this before I break my shin on someone's elbow
hows ur kicks goin now?
A nice trick I used, get a folding chair, or any other chair u may have that is around hip height, and kick over that keeping your leg parallel to the chair. As you get better ballance begin to lower closer to the top, and I also adjust this to low kicks by using an exercise ball and repeating the process. If that helps you out, awesome! If not, I wish you luck in your future endeavours
if you turn your head like this guy you will be in the hospital without even knowing what hits you
+Yang Ken The turn of the head here is utilised by this relatively new student to enable a better rotation from his hip into the kick. As you say, this can then become detrimental in fighting situations. However I have known fighters do this and remain successful in the ring. In the context of this video, I think it is acceptable especially as the focus is on applying the hip into the kick. The head turning could be corrected if needed after use of the hip has been fully understood by the fighter. Thanks for commenting!
A lot harder to mimic than to understand!
The student cry as a taewondo practicioner.