The sad part is that it's not even uncommon for it to happen. Something like 20 or 30 thousand babies get switched out every year. With all of the technology and methods we have of identifying a person and tracking their genetics, that number should be zero. I remember hearing in high school from one of my friends that their sister was sick, and they were doing some tests and found out his sister wasn't either of her parents child. She'd been switched at birth. I don't know the details because it was like 18 years or so ago. But yeah, this kind of thing shouldn't be happening. Not with everything we have that can easily prevent it
It happened with my older brother it was just a paperwork mix up and labels it got figured out fast when they brought my mom an Asian baby and the asian woman was brought a Mexican baby 😂
OPs biological parents must have been amazing to raise such a kind a patient daughter to be putting Op first like that. I'm glad OP has that sister and that she's sticking up for OP. I think the sister loves OP because she is what reminds her of her non-blooded parents. The ones who raised her. I think that's sweet.
@@PlayaSinNombre But the sister lost the people who raised her. They were the only parents she knew before she got the DNA tests she did lose her family. And to be honest, if that family was willing to throw away OP so easily, then those people were never her family and OP found hers too when Sofia showed up and showed her the compassion she deserved.
@@Chaos-94 except, they were never her parents. And were replaced by people who were. Meanwhile, the OP finds out her “parents” have no connection with her, and her parents are dead at the same day.
When I lost my best friend to suicide, my son thought I was losing my shit because he heard me talking to him and saying all the things I no longer could. My son got really concerned (he was 19) and contacted my ex husband and he gave me a puppy. He wanted me to have something to focus on. I named him after my best friend so if my son heard me talking to Greg he'd assume I was talking to the dog. That puppy saved my life. He's 8 now and if I have an anxiety attack he's right there in my lap kissing my tears away.
My rabbit Chewey saved mine. I acquired him from am ex gf. We had an amicable breakup and stayed friends, and her new bf (now hubby,) had an auto immune disease so I took him long short, work accident left me unable to work right before covid. So no work for 2 years, drained savings etc. If it wasn't for that rabbit giving me a reason to get out of bed and be responsible, I'd probably either be in the streets, or self deleted. He's 9.5 now. And he'll always have a home.
Honestly, if a therapist told me that talking to the memory of a dead loved one was normal, I'd say 'duh' and question why they feel the need to tell me obvious things. My fear for OP2's kids is he'll end up medicating the oldest into a junkie and still blame the victim. As for the younger one? He'll run away because he's scared of his dad.
Story 1 shame on that family. They were so cruel to her over something that was totally not her fault. I understand they were happy to find their biological child but to not acknowledge OPs feelings in this and reassure her is really bad. Op was left with no family.
story 1: I can see OP's family abandoning her once she is 18 with the possible exception of her sister. hope she finds someone to create a new family with
Story 1: nice of the new sister to step up and protect op Story 2: holy sh*t op is a psycho and is going to or has already horribly damaged his kids Story 3: f’ed up situation and if what the husband says is true, the entire party could have been spiked with something which is why ‘no one’ remembered much, which isn’t unlikely. Though honestly I suspect he knows more than what he’s admitted to
I couldn't finish story 2. The OP made me too mad. What a sick and disgusting excuse for a parent. Get those boys help IMMEDIATELY and stop bashing therapists.
Agreed, he has no idea what a therapist even does. He is correct that therapy won't "cure" them. That's not what they do at all. If that's his expectation, then that's the problem. First and foremost, it's an objective third party who can give him general updates on his son's well-being (without breeching confidentiality). This is someone who can see problematic behaviors earlier on in their development and get ahead of game in mitigating those behaviors. It's another set of well-trained eyes on the situation. I think that's OP's real problem with therapists, they'd call him out on his B.S. I'm betting prior to his divorce, there may have been a CPS visit or two which colored his opinion of therapy when his way of doing things was found to be inadequate. That's just speculation on my part, but where else would he have developed such strong opinions? Either that or he's a religious nut, Jehovah's Witness or something like that which dismisses doctors and mental health professionals out of hand. Of course a therapist can't make the kid stop grieving. At the end of the day, his mother is still dead. But they can help custom tailor some strategies to help them deal with this productively. That's where they will be beneficial. But if he doesn't implement those strategies and follow through, then yeah... it's never going to work. And I have nothing against cannabis use (I use it myself on occasion, legally), but it shouldn't be given to a thirteen year old. There are mountains of clinical research establishing how cannabis use that young can stunt brain development. Giving him the "munchies" will not make him eat. If he hasn't eaten, it's not for lack of hunger. And doing this without telling the kid... just dosing him without his knowledge is fucked up on many levels. And then, he's lying to them about their mother's death, and so is her family because "Suicide" is embarrassing. These people are trash. The only ones behaving "normally" are the kids. That doesn't mean they're doing well, but they are responding to their circumstances exactly as you would expect them to.
@krazykrazy8513 Yep. It's really hard. It makes you talk about the bad stuff in detail. It's hard to open up to another person on such a deep level, but it's sometimes necessary. Sometimes, having someone on your side and helping you work through whatever is going on is needed. If you had a bad therapist, you need to find another one.
@@krazykrazy8513 I have been to several and it saved my life. I've been to bad therapists and good therapists. Not all therapists are the same, not all mental health issues are the same and not everyone finds the same things helpful. It's like saying all teachers or doctors or parents are good or bad.
Story 2: Trauma can’t be “fixed.” We’re human beings, not machines. Finding out one’s parent died at such a young age is going to stay with them for the rest of their lives. Dad is adding more damage to his sons’ lives.
That has got to be the most terrible parent ever when it comes to dealing with loss and trauma. That dude is an azzhole and he has no heart. He is so careless with the people he should love or at least care about. All he cares about is himself. I hope those boys run as far away from that jerk the minute they reach adulthood and never look back. Give him the same love and care that he gave them-NONE. If you have a bad therapist, you don’t give up on therapy as a whole. You just find a new better therapist. Keep looking until you find one. Not everyone is good at their job-that goes for every profession.
@@youngmahalo9406 you haven’t met my family. They make this man look sane and like the best parent in the world. I wish I was joking or lying, but I’m not. And I’m a former foster parent, so I have seen the worst humanity has to offer as far as parents go. So yeah, people like this guy can easily exist. Some people are very bad parents because they are very bad people in general.
@@macylouwho1187 i understand that but a vast majority of the time reddit videos like this are made up. i dont doubt something liek this has or could happen, theres thousands of videos like this who do it for views not to actually share real stories to the world
@@youngmahalo9406 Reddit is such a huge spot on the internet that it annoys Google enough how frequently they come up at the top of searches so much so that Google actually struck a deal to buy them out. So many people post on the forums that Google intends to use their posts to train their AI with them. Look it up, it’s true. THAT’S how many real people users are on there posting their whole lives and life situations that come up. Plenty of real life stories come up on that platform, and plenty of users who listen to TH-cam videos go look up these posts to see if they are real or not based on the accounts that post them. Such as their other posts about other topics. So no-not a ton of these posts are not bogus because if they were-Reddit users would be all over it saying so. There are always fact checkers in the posts. If someone is posting bogus content people come out in the comments more often than not, and not just with words like “this is so fake”-but words like “I got on that subreddit listed and tried to find this and it’s not on there, so likely an AI generated story”. I watch a ton of these stories across a bunch of TH-cam accounts, and as soon as enough people pop up claiming the content isn’t on Reddit, I unsubscribe from the channel. So far, this isn’t one of those channels as far as I know right now. Matter of fact, a few times this channel has outright said the video posted was questionable as far as validity, but it was a Reddit post. But they put up a disclaimer first that some people were questioning the validity on Reddit and so this channel said so up front so that people could decide for themselves how they felt about it. That says to me that the channel is a least honest.
I remember the case of 2 boys swapped at the hospital, in South Africa one was raised in extreme poverty with a single mother and another lived in a rich house with 2 parents. the 2 mothers decided to keep the boys in the same exact situations after they learned the truth which was a big mistake and injustice towards the poor boy, the rich boy obviously didn't want anything to do with his poor bio mother, the poor boy ended up running away and starting his own life and family away, both mothers devastated especially the poor mother who ended up totally alone whilethe rich one still have somewhat some communications with her bio son and grandson.
@@mamasplayinhookie3131 no it was in South Africa, it is tye most well documented case of baby swap and is taught in psychology classes across the world.
This father keeps calling therapist idiots but he’s the real idiot 14:55 This father needs some mental help himself cause unbeknownst to him he is grieving
Story 2. Those boys need a therapist. While he found her and has been practical about it. He delayed telling the boys until they knew something was wrong. Dismissed therapy bc it's not a quick fix, then when the boys act up (a normal grieving response) he doubles down being anti-therapy. Even if they're not talking, a therapist can start them with something. It may take a few sessions but it's better than OP's current effort which is basically just move on. After the update. The OP has zero clue what grieving means or how therapy works. He is drugging his son who is literally wasting away refusing to eat. It's not moving the goalposts, it's reevaluating. He went to a session was told it was normal grieving, needed more sessions, and he's going to post a negative review bc the single session didn't fix his son. His son probably needs to be hospitalized with intensive therapy. In 10 years, OP will be wondering why his sons no longer want anything to do with him.
Absolutely gut wrenching. OP thinks that people are like a car where you can replace the broken part and it's as good as new. Drugging your kids against their will instead of sending them to therapy is insane.
@@krazykrazy8513 the dad didn't even try. Maybe one session and balked at the suggestion of having the son do more sessions. His solution was just to drug his kid. Kid's still depressed, no coping methods, and he's not consenting to being drugged. Dad is a major AH.
@@krazykrazy8513 because his dad isn't hearing him. OP doesn't want to listen and is treating it like you get over it in a week and move on. He clearly isn't close to his sons and never seems to make an effort to bridge that gap. He'd rather treat them like they're crazy and emotional than admit he's the asshole.
Story 3. It sounds as though it was a wild party with underage drinking and they slept together without being sober enough to consent and drunk enough to forget. She didn't know what happened, but he didn't either (taking what he said at face value as when he woke up, he didn't realize and took care of her). They're going to couples counseling and working to legalize his relationship with his daughter. Ultimately the choice to forgive is up to OP. It answers one question, but creates more questions. At least they are receptive to therapy.
@@vince.inthevoid8158 forgiveness is more than just someone did a bad thing, consequences, apology and absolution. it's trusting that he didn't know. It was a traumatic event in her life that forever changed her life. A turning point from what she had envisioned. And it's about forgiveness on many levels. Against him, even if he was drunk, he hadn't told her his side of that night until the paternity tests. Blame she abscribes to herself for putting herself in that position, which she stopped attending parties afterward even before she learned she was pregnant. Ultimately it's up to her to accept all of that and more forward. It's a positive they're going to marriage counseling to reconcile the whole past with the present.
As someone who's parent k i l l e d himself, i truly believe that kids shouldn't know that. My mom told me that father d eat h was an accident. She told me the truth only after i was 18. It hurts that i didn't know the truth, but i understand why she did it. I can't even imagine what truth might've done to me back then.
Story 2: I feel so awful for those 2 boys. CPS needs to take his sons away, and the kids mother-n-law is embarrassed and humiliated that her daughter commited self harm. What a terrible mom. Also a lot of people talk to their dead loved ones. They dont do it thinking the dead one will talk back, its a form of therapy.
I read an article about a Japanese man who was born in a wealthy family, but got swapped after the nurse bathed him. He then raised in poverty while the other baby lived with more opportunity and wealth. He can only afford to become a truck driver while the other baby become a CEO in company. He found out about in his sixties and his bio parents already died. He missed his prime time and live opportunity he can have. Fate truly played him.
HOLD ON! is OP in the second story stupid? The Sons behaviour will not improve if OP keeps sticking his head in the sand… a therapist was needed immediately! Tell me something, is OP one of the guys that think mens mental health just magically improves? Man i really hope that story is fake, because OP isn’t a great dad. that son is going end up like his mother if OP doesn’t do anything (I know harsh truth but He needs to hear it) depression and S*icidal ideation can also run in families.
I can see why OPs changeling sister is doing so well. She has charisma and brilliant social skills, whereas OP is socially inept. The changeling sister really did fulfill all her fears
Story One: This one made me sad that Op has to go through that. Sure she isn't biologically related to them but the hospital should've done a DNA test so babies wouldn't get swapped in the first place. I believe it's pretty much common, correct me if I am wrong. However, it's nice to see the step-sister protecting Op but kind of makes me wonder how long that's going to last. Second story: Op is the biggest AH. The story may typed up five years ago but what was he doing to his son was practically emotional neglect and actually lied to his kids. Like wtf?! He doesn't know what's best to his children, drugging him is like abuse. Parents like that made my blood boiled. Third story: What the actual heck? That's messed up. I feel like he knows something more because of these days in the future, the children will know the truth if one of the familiar members let it slip.
@@endermenon4836 unalive or deleted or game ended at least still tell you that the person died. I listened to another story once where then person committed suicide and they just said self harm so for a long time I had no idea the person was actually dead.
Story 3: Girl you have FAR from ruled out him raping you. Just deciding to take him back this quick is a horrible idea. If you were both genuinely so fucked up you couldn't remember: Ok thats different, but it seems all too convenient to me
Second story.... good god. Seems the ex was wrong as OP is showing his true colors. Hopefully the kids get away from him. He's gonna drive them to self h*rm with his views on phycologists and therapists as well as giving edibles without them knowing.
Story 1- I'm so glad OP has her sister, because the rest of her "family" absolutely sucks and my heart hurts for her. Story2- i DESPISE this man and how he handles this, and hate how he is destroying his kids. He won't have sons in a few years...either they'll be dead or they'll cut all ties with him (and be better for it) Story3- I think he knows more than he's saying, but doesn't want to admit it. I get why OP wants to stay, but I don't think it's a good idea. And i dont think she will be able to move past this as easy as she's pretending to.
Story 2- and now we see shy Op's ex divorced him. What a monumental ahole. And him saying he was thinking about his sons when not telling them was him thinking about HIMSELF and how this was going to upset his life.
Story 2: The way the dad broke the news, I hope the son doesn’t think his own father killed her. Saying she was putting the gun away and it fired might’ve sounded sus to the boy, especially when it took op so long to tell them. God for all we know the story op isn’t the full truth and he did hav something to do with it. So worried for that son losing weight and the father doing nothing, fuck that guy,
Story 3 - Not going to lie, I actually thought Op's Husband SA'd her. But after hearing how confused and guilty he was, I am beginning to think there is a 3rd person in this. They drugged the Husband's and Op's Drink, had them *whistle* with each other, and then put them in certain spots which then leads to the scenario and the story playing out. Then again, I'm probably just over thinking it.
It's weird cos he willingly said he'd take a dna test and most of the time (or at least the stories I've heard) abusers usually deny it to as much as they can and demand the victim to drop it but he's not doing that,also op never said a drug test was done so there's a chance they were both wasted as fuck or he's acting his ass off, it's a fucked situation cos if she was truly assaulted I don't know if she can get the justice she needs
Story 2: the father is an idiot. Therapy is not some magical fix all, cure all. They need to talk to someone to help deal with their grief or the trauma will impact them in the long run.
Sofia in 1st story sounds amazing 2nd story is hard. therapists could absolutely be a waste of time/money. it is absolutely dependent on the person/victim. but OP definitely shouldve at least given a therapist or 2 a proper chance on this. all you in the comments trashing that OP are being way too harsh. he is wrong, but doesnt mean he's an awful parent. chill out 3rd story is really weird. i wanna know why exactly her twin bro didnt like her husband. did he have an idea that he's actually not such a good guy or something? or did he just find it weird that his sister was with someone they knew since kids as an older brother (like a protective brother kind of thing)
Another reason why DNA test should be carried out at birth. To avoid children getting switched around.
We got lucky there are distinct family traits in my side of the family my son shared so there was no question
It needs carried out before leaving. At birth would be pointless. It really shouldn't be that hard not to mix up babies yet somehow they do.
The sad part is that it's not even uncommon for it to happen. Something like 20 or 30 thousand babies get switched out every year. With all of the technology and methods we have of identifying a person and tracking their genetics, that number should be zero. I remember hearing in high school from one of my friends that their sister was sick, and they were doing some tests and found out his sister wasn't either of her parents child. She'd been switched at birth. I don't know the details because it was like 18 years or so ago. But yeah, this kind of thing shouldn't be happening. Not with everything we have that can easily prevent it
DNA test took days not minutes or hours
It happened with my older brother it was just a paperwork mix up and labels it got figured out fast when they brought my mom an Asian baby and the asian woman was brought a Mexican baby 😂
OPs biological parents must have been amazing to raise such a kind a patient daughter to be putting Op first like that. I'm glad OP has that sister and that she's sticking up for OP. I think the sister loves OP because she is what reminds her of her non-blooded parents. The ones who raised her. I think that's sweet.
The sister found her family. OP lost hers…
@@PlayaSinNombre But the sister lost the people who raised her. They were the only parents she knew before she got the DNA tests she did lose her family. And to be honest, if that family was willing to throw away OP so easily, then those people were never her family and OP found hers too when Sofia showed up and showed her the compassion she deserved.
OP’s parents don’t get the credit for how well their daughter takes them neglecting her.
@@Chaos-94 except, they were never her parents. And were replaced by people who were. Meanwhile, the OP finds out her “parents” have no connection with her, and her parents are dead at the same day.
@@PlayaSinNombre Sure, Jan.
When I lost my best friend to suicide, my son thought I was losing my shit because he heard me talking to him and saying all the things I no longer could. My son got really concerned (he was 19) and contacted my ex husband and he gave me a puppy. He wanted me to have something to focus on. I named him after my best friend so if my son heard me talking to Greg he'd assume I was talking to the dog. That puppy saved my life. He's 8 now and if I have an anxiety attack he's right there in my lap kissing my tears away.
Sounds like a good dog
My rabbit Chewey saved mine. I acquired him from am ex gf. We had an amicable breakup and stayed friends, and her new bf (now hubby,) had an auto immune disease so I took him long short, work accident left me unable to work right before covid. So no work for 2 years, drained savings etc. If it wasn't for that rabbit giving me a reason to get out of bed and be responsible, I'd probably either be in the streets, or self deleted. He's 9.5 now. And he'll always have a home.
W son w ex husband w dog
Kudos to your son and ex
Story 2: OP is going to ruin his son because he knows better, and because therapy isn't the miracle cure he believes it should be
Honestly, if a therapist told me that talking to the memory of a dead loved one was normal, I'd say 'duh' and question why they feel the need to tell me obvious things. My fear for OP2's kids is he'll end up medicating the oldest into a junkie and still blame the victim. As for the younger one? He'll run away because he's scared of his dad.
Story 1 shame on that family. They were so cruel to her over something that was totally not her fault. I understand they were happy to find their biological child but to not acknowledge OPs feelings in this and reassure her is really bad. Op was left with no family.
S1. I am glad this story has a kind of positive ending - god OP’s family (barring her sister) suck
Agreed. It sucks that OP never got to know her bio family. But she has a sister, and sister has her back.
@Tbm998 It sucks for the sister too. But think about it. The sister would have turned out just like Op's "parents" if they raised her.
story 1: I can see OP's family abandoning her once she is 18 with the possible exception of her sister. hope she finds someone to create a new family with
Story 1: nice of the new sister to step up and protect op
Story 2: holy sh*t op is a psycho and is going to or has already horribly damaged his kids
Story 3: f’ed up situation and if what the husband says is true, the entire party could have been spiked with something which is why ‘no one’ remembered much, which isn’t unlikely. Though honestly I suspect he knows more than what he’s admitted to
S2: OP is a terrible father, the wrong partner left the world it seems
OMFG the OP in story 2, someone needs to call CPS on him. He's screeing up thise kids so bad that they're probably better off somewhere far away.
I couldn't finish story 2. The OP made me too mad. What a sick and disgusting excuse for a parent. Get those boys help IMMEDIATELY and stop bashing therapists.
Agreed, he has no idea what a therapist even does.
He is correct that therapy won't "cure" them. That's not what they do at all. If that's his expectation, then that's the problem.
First and foremost, it's an objective third party who can give him general updates on his son's well-being (without breeching confidentiality). This is someone who can see problematic behaviors earlier on in their development and get ahead of game in mitigating those behaviors. It's another set of well-trained eyes on the situation. I think that's OP's real problem with therapists, they'd call him out on his B.S. I'm betting prior to his divorce, there may have been a CPS visit or two which colored his opinion of therapy when his way of doing things was found to be inadequate. That's just speculation on my part, but where else would he have developed such strong opinions? Either that or he's a religious nut, Jehovah's Witness or something like that which dismisses doctors and mental health professionals out of hand.
Of course a therapist can't make the kid stop grieving. At the end of the day, his mother is still dead. But they can help custom tailor some strategies to help them deal with this productively. That's where they will be beneficial. But if he doesn't implement those strategies and follow through, then yeah... it's never going to work.
And I have nothing against cannabis use (I use it myself on occasion, legally), but it shouldn't be given to a thirteen year old. There are mountains of clinical research establishing how cannabis use that young can stunt brain development. Giving him the "munchies" will not make him eat. If he hasn't eaten, it's not for lack of hunger. And doing this without telling the kid... just dosing him without his knowledge is fucked up on many levels.
And then, he's lying to them about their mother's death, and so is her family because "Suicide" is embarrassing. These people are trash.
The only ones behaving "normally" are the kids. That doesn't mean they're doing well, but they are responding to their circumstances exactly as you would expect them to.
You have guys ever been in therapy (it’s not good)
@krazykrazy8513 Yep. It's really hard. It makes you talk about the bad stuff in detail. It's hard to open up to another person on such a deep level, but it's sometimes necessary. Sometimes, having someone on your side and helping you work through whatever is going on is needed. If you had a bad therapist, you need to find another one.
I can understand the scepticism over therapy, but he won't even take his starving child to a doctor. His skin is peeling!?!?
@@krazykrazy8513 I have been to several and it saved my life. I've been to bad therapists and good therapists. Not all therapists are the same, not all mental health issues are the same and not everyone finds the same things helpful. It's like saying all teachers or doctors or parents are good or bad.
Story 2: Trauma can’t be “fixed.” We’re human beings, not machines. Finding out one’s parent died at such a young age is going to stay with them for the rest of their lives.
Dad is adding more damage to his sons’ lives.
That has got to be the most terrible parent ever when it comes to dealing with loss and trauma. That dude is an azzhole and he has no heart. He is so careless with the people he should love or at least care about. All he cares about is himself. I hope those boys run as far away from that jerk the minute they reach adulthood and never look back. Give him the same love and care that he gave them-NONE. If you have a bad therapist, you don’t give up on therapy as a whole. You just find a new better therapist. Keep looking until you find one. Not everyone is good at their job-that goes for every profession.
Do you people think these are real😂😂😂
@@youngmahalo9406 you haven’t met my family. They make this man look sane and like the best parent in the world. I wish I was joking or lying, but I’m not. And I’m a former foster parent, so I have seen the worst humanity has to offer as far as parents go. So yeah, people like this guy can easily exist. Some people are very bad parents because they are very bad people in general.
@@macylouwho1187 i understand that but a vast majority of the time reddit videos like this are made up. i dont doubt something liek this has or could happen, theres thousands of videos like this who do it for views not to actually share real stories to the world
@@youngmahalo9406 Reddit is such a huge spot on the internet that it annoys Google enough how frequently they come up at the top of searches so much so that Google actually struck a deal to buy them out. So many people post on the forums that Google intends to use their posts to train their AI with them. Look it up, it’s true. THAT’S how many real people users are on there posting their whole lives and life situations that come up. Plenty of real life stories come up on that platform, and plenty of users who listen to TH-cam videos go look up these posts to see if they are real or not based on the accounts that post them. Such as their other posts about other topics. So no-not a ton of these posts are not bogus because if they were-Reddit users would be all over it saying so. There are always fact checkers in the posts. If someone is posting bogus content people come out in the comments more often than not, and not just with words like “this is so fake”-but words like “I got on that subreddit listed and tried to find this and it’s not on there, so likely an AI generated story”. I watch a ton of these stories across a bunch of TH-cam accounts, and as soon as enough people pop up claiming the content isn’t on Reddit, I unsubscribe from the channel. So far, this isn’t one of those channels as far as I know right now. Matter of fact, a few times this channel has outright said the video posted was questionable as far as validity, but it was a Reddit post. But they put up a disclaimer first that some people were questioning the validity on Reddit and so this channel said so up front so that people could decide for themselves how they felt about it. That says to me that the channel is a least honest.
I remember the case of 2 boys swapped at the hospital, in South Africa one was raised in extreme poverty with a single mother and another lived in a rich house with 2 parents. the 2 mothers decided to keep the boys in the same exact situations after they learned the truth which was a big mistake and injustice towards the poor boy, the rich boy obviously didn't want anything to do with his poor bio mother, the poor boy ended up running away and starting his own life and family away, both mothers devastated especially the poor mother who ended up totally alone whilethe rich one still have somewhat some communications with her bio son and grandson.
That was the Russian baby swap. I felt so bad for the poor mom.
@@mamasplayinhookie3131 no it was in South Africa, it is tye most well documented case of baby swap and is taught in psychology classes across the world.
This father keeps calling therapist idiots but he’s the real idiot 14:55 This father needs some mental help himself cause unbeknownst to him he is grieving
Story 2. Those boys need a therapist. While he found her and has been practical about it. He delayed telling the boys until they knew something was wrong. Dismissed therapy bc it's not a quick fix, then when the boys act up (a normal grieving response) he doubles down being anti-therapy.
Even if they're not talking, a therapist can start them with something. It may take a few sessions but it's better than OP's current effort which is basically just move on.
After the update. The OP has zero clue what grieving means or how therapy works. He is drugging his son who is literally wasting away refusing to eat. It's not moving the goalposts, it's reevaluating. He went to a session was told it was normal grieving, needed more sessions, and he's going to post a negative review bc the single session didn't fix his son. His son probably needs to be hospitalized with intensive therapy.
In 10 years, OP will be wondering why his sons no longer want anything to do with him.
Absolutely gut wrenching. OP thinks that people are like a car where you can replace the broken part and it's as good as new. Drugging your kids against their will instead of sending them to therapy is insane.
In 10 years, OP might not even have sons
Not really therapy just ain’t for everybody he doesn’t even eat or talk to his dad
@@krazykrazy8513 the dad didn't even try. Maybe one session and balked at the suggestion of having the son do more sessions. His solution was just to drug his kid. Kid's still depressed, no coping methods, and he's not consenting to being drugged. Dad is a major AH.
@@krazykrazy8513 because his dad isn't hearing him. OP doesn't want to listen and is treating it like you get over it in a week and move on. He clearly isn't close to his sons and never seems to make an effort to bridge that gap. He'd rather treat them like they're crazy and emotional than admit he's the asshole.
Story 3. It sounds as though it was a wild party with underage drinking and they slept together without being sober enough to consent and drunk enough to forget. She didn't know what happened, but he didn't either (taking what he said at face value as when he woke up, he didn't realize and took care of her). They're going to couples counseling and working to legalize his relationship with his daughter.
Ultimately the choice to forgive is up to OP. It answers one question, but creates more questions. At least they are receptive to therapy.
Forgive what tho? That he rapped her? If he didn’t than there’s nothing to forgive.
@@vince.inthevoid8158 forgiveness is more than just someone did a bad thing, consequences, apology and absolution.
it's trusting that he didn't know. It was a traumatic event in her life that forever changed her life. A turning point from what she had envisioned. And it's about forgiveness on many levels. Against him, even if he was drunk, he hadn't told her his side of that night until the paternity tests. Blame she abscribes to herself for putting herself in that position, which she stopped attending parties afterward even before she learned she was pregnant. Ultimately it's up to her to accept all of that and more forward. It's a positive they're going to marriage counseling to reconcile the whole past with the present.
As someone who's parent k i l l e d himself, i truly believe that kids shouldn't know that. My mom told me that father d eat h was an accident. She told me the truth only after i was 18. It hurts that i didn't know the truth, but i understand why she did it. I can't even imagine what truth might've done to me back then.
Story 2: I feel so awful for those 2 boys. CPS needs to take his sons away, and the kids mother-n-law is embarrassed and humiliated that her daughter commited self harm. What a terrible mom. Also a lot of people talk to their dead loved ones. They dont do it thinking the dead one will talk back, its a form of therapy.
Story #2: He says his ex badmouthed him to her family, but from the way he sounds she must’ve just been telling the truth.
Op2s ex badmouthed him to her family? Preposterous! What bad things could you say about this guy?
I read an article about a Japanese man who was born in a wealthy family, but got swapped after the nurse bathed him. He then raised in poverty while the other baby lived with more opportunity and wealth. He can only afford to become a truck driver while the other baby become a CEO in company. He found out about in his sixties and his bio parents already died. He missed his prime time and live opportunity he can have. Fate truly played him.
HOLD ON! is OP in the second story stupid?
The Sons behaviour will not improve if OP keeps sticking his head in the sand… a therapist was needed immediately!
Tell me something, is OP one of the guys that think mens mental health just magically improves?
Man i really hope that story is fake, because OP isn’t a great dad. that son is going end up like his mother if OP doesn’t do anything (I know harsh truth but He needs to hear it) depression and S*icidal ideation can also run in families.
Suicide and not loving your children has nothing to do with each other.
S1: they both lost their family but gained a sister
3rd story he's lying, he 100% knew he assaulted her
How do you? If multiple people had memory loss from the party, that sounds like a spiked punch bowl
I can see why OPs changeling sister is doing so well. She has charisma and brilliant social skills, whereas OP is socially inept. The changeling sister really did fulfill all her fears
S3: This poor girl is really going to accept that creep is some sort of sleep...rapist... and move on ?!
why is no one talking about the 3rd story??? Like WTF?
From the sound of things everyone at the party was drugged (spiked punch)? Turns out the kid was his, but I guess it worked out in the end?
@ryanbarclay7939 still pretty messed up though
@@alb3rt0 It’s messed up, but it’s also not clear cut. It’s murky, so people are reserving judgement (for the most part)
Op in Story 2 ten years later: ,,Why my son didn't speak to me anymore?"
Story One: This one made me sad that Op has to go through that. Sure she isn't biologically related to them but the hospital should've done a DNA test so babies wouldn't get swapped in the first place. I believe it's pretty much common, correct me if I am wrong. However, it's nice to see the step-sister protecting Op but kind of makes me wonder how long that's going to last.
Second story: Op is the biggest AH. The story may typed up five years ago but what was he doing to his son was practically emotional neglect and actually lied to his kids. Like wtf?! He doesn't know what's best to his children, drugging him is like abuse. Parents like that made my blood boiled.
Third story: What the actual heck? That's messed up. I feel like he knows something more because of these days in the future, the children will know the truth if one of the familiar members let it slip.
I hope that the son in the second story finds out that his "father" drugged him and reports him for child abuse.
I can't stand when they just say self harm in these stories. It makes it sound like she's not actually dead.
Blame censorship
It's also why you see things like 'unalive' in certain videos
yeah i know the "S" word is bad .. but use self deletion or something without ambiguity
@@endermenon4836 unalive or deleted or game ended at least still tell you that the person died. I listened to another story once where then person committed suicide and they just said self harm so for a long time I had no idea the person was actually dead.
Story 3: Girl you have FAR from ruled out him raping you. Just deciding to take him back this quick is a horrible idea.
If you were both genuinely so fucked up you couldn't remember: Ok thats different, but it seems all too convenient to me
If multiple people at the party couldn’t remember, that sounds like someone spiked a punch bowl or similar.
Second story.... good god. Seems the ex was wrong as OP is showing his true colors. Hopefully the kids get away from him. He's gonna drive them to self h*rm with his views on phycologists and therapists as well as giving edibles without them knowing.
Story 2: I’m half convinced that this guy doesn’t even have a soul.
Story 1- I'm so glad OP has her sister, because the rest of her "family" absolutely sucks and my heart hurts for her.
Story2- i DESPISE this man and how he handles this, and hate how he is destroying his kids. He won't have sons in a few years...either they'll be dead or they'll cut all ties with him (and be better for it)
Story3- I think he knows more than he's saying, but doesn't want to admit it. I get why OP wants to stay, but I don't think it's a good idea. And i dont think she will be able to move past this as easy as she's pretending to.
Story 2- and now we see shy Op's ex divorced him. What a monumental ahole. And him saying he was thinking about his sons when not telling them was him thinking about HIMSELF and how this was going to upset his life.
Story 2: The way the dad broke the news, I hope the son doesn’t think his own father killed her. Saying she was putting the gun away and it fired might’ve sounded sus to the boy, especially when it took op so long to tell them. God for all we know the story op isn’t the full truth and he did hav something to do with it. So worried for that son losing weight and the father doing nothing, fuck that guy,
Second story: wow that guys a really bad dad.
Story 1 - OP’s bio parents are better parents than the non-bio ones.
There should be a DNA archive of the children born. to avoid bad things like in the story.
Story 1 is the literally epitome of East Asian regression novels with female MCs
That hospital should be sue to hell.
i’m sorry how did this girl become captain of the varsity team in less then one year being at the school what alt universe
story 2: i dont think that op has any idea what he’s doing
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Story 3 - Not going to lie, I actually thought Op's Husband SA'd her. But after hearing how confused and guilty he was, I am beginning to think there is a 3rd person in this. They drugged the Husband's and Op's Drink, had them *whistle* with each other, and then put them in certain spots which then leads to the scenario and the story playing out. Then again, I'm probably just over thinking it.
It's weird cos he willingly said he'd take a dna test and most of the time (or at least the stories I've heard) abusers usually deny it to as much as they can and demand the victim to drop it but he's not doing that,also op never said a drug test was done so there's a chance they were both wasted as fuck or he's acting his ass off, it's a fucked situation cos if she was truly assaulted I don't know if she can get the justice she needs
Sounds OP’s parents died twice. Her bio parents died in a car accident, then her non bio parents died the moment Sophia showed up.
If story 2 ops kid dosent end up dead i will be shocked.
Not popular opinion in story 2 the ex-husband drove the ex-wife crazy causing divorce and self harm
Sounds like a Chinese novel plot
Story 2: the father is an idiot. Therapy is not some magical fix all, cure all. They need to talk to someone to help deal with their grief or the trauma will impact them in the long run.
Switched at birth or adopted family....who writes these
This is like chinese TV family drama...
This op about his kids and therapists is insane. He needs therapy and his opinion on it is ridiculous.
Story 2, the only things OP did right was to say that it was an accident and not suicide, as for the rest he's a POS
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Sofia in 1st story sounds amazing
2nd story is hard. therapists could absolutely be a waste of time/money. it is absolutely dependent on the person/victim. but OP definitely shouldve at least given a therapist or 2 a proper chance on this. all you in the comments trashing that OP are being way too harsh. he is wrong, but doesnt mean he's an awful parent. chill out
3rd story is really weird. i wanna know why exactly her twin bro didnt like her husband. did he have an idea that he's actually not such a good guy or something? or did he just find it weird that his sister was with someone they knew since kids as an older brother (like a protective brother kind of thing)
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My god, these fake ass stories are just getting stupid.