Oh wow...he probably blames the younger sister for ruining his relationship with the elder. It's his fault for cheated but she and the children are now the embodiment of his guilt. He can't take accountability for his part, so he beats her. She can't take accountability for her part so she blames the elder sister. They both betrayed OP, but she dodged so many bullets.
A family of misogynists who would rather blame a woman for a man's abuse. How disgusting. It's so telling that OP'S crappy family came to her with anger and blame, rather than being concerned that OP might have been hurt by this man and didn't feel safe to tell her family. They're completely fine with the idea of OP being abused. Those people are awful and deserve all the misery that they encounter. I only feel bad for the kids, who are innocent and have been born into an abusive family.
It has nothing to do with mysogyny. Please stop blaming everything on all these different things This is about the sister who is the GOLDEN CHILD You can't put everything under the umbrella of an -ism or phobia Racism Sexism Transphobia That doesn't hold these people responsible for their own behavior which is far more complex than just being put under a label This has to do with the family having issues and not wanting to actually admit their favoritism
Abusers typically conceal their nature until they feel that they’ve isolated their target explicitly to prevent losing control of them or facing consequences for their actions. It’s totally reasonable that OP wouldn’t have known her ex was an abuser if he never felt like he had her tied down. It’s also possible that his frustration at not being able to get back with OP accelerated his timetable on the sister, which may be part of why he DIDN’T wait with her.
Story 1. It's karma because op ex is upset because her sister isn't op that's why he was sick of op sister and her family smh serve them right. They have audacity to blame op when they took the cheater side. That's their punishment. Her family relatives are narcissist pricks and losers. Except op brother the rest can go to hell.
Yeah was about to say the brother and OP sound like the only normal people in the family. It’s also clear who the golden child is in the family and who can do no wrong.
So him cheating and on a girl with her sister was ok, but him smacking sister around is a no go? He’s being morally consistent. What’s with the shocked Pikachu face?
Oh I'm sorry the dirtbag that cheated on his girlfriend with her brat sister turns out be a bad guy, really, the parents and sister mustn't have been in line for common sense or decency
Cheating is a form of abuse, he progressed to physical abuse after the marriage and pregnancy, sister got her Karma for helping him abuse you. And yet she STAYS???
For the last story, I'd send a happy anniversary email or text to the mom and sister at the 6 and 12 month marks in their marriage with a big middle finger attached to it. I'd send it every anniversary after that too. They don't respect OP, their son, or the marriage. You don't need people like that in your life.
S2: they’re only mad bcz they were caught lying to their workplace, hopefully they were reprimanded. Also I hope only OP gets inheritance if there is and they go no contact with the entire family, also that they get a lawyer to cover their butt for just in case
Lemme play armchair internet therapist at 3:38. We have OP, sister, and fuckboi. Fuckboi most likely feels resentment towards sister for breaking up his relationship with OP and baby trapping him into marriage. At first he was more attracted to sister, but later found put that her looks camouflaged her shit personality. I’m guessing that someone who’s willing to throw themselves at their sister’s boyfriend isn’t a good person. So he felt resentful, because he fucked up and is trapped in a relationship with an awful person and he resorts to violence because he wants her to leave him. Now I am in now way saying sister deserves to get abused….I may believe it, but I’m not gonna say it.
The ex has an abuse method that includes revealing his true colors at a particular time or life event situation after his partner becomes fully invested in/dependent upon him. The ex prefers to start abusing after children are born. Some abusive partners wait until after moving in together, others after the wedding, and others after kids are born (kids usually born early into the relationship because abusers can’t keep up their façade of being good people for a long time). They wait until they think they have their victim in their clutches on a long term scale.
OP1 is a doormat *gets called a doormat* Throws a tantrum and says it's juvenile. No honey, you really are making yourself look like a doormat, either describe yourself better or accept you are one and move along
My ex did the same to me. The minute we got married, he flipped. The only difference was that he didn't hit me. It took me a lot longer to realize what was going on Narcissists don't recognize narcissists
While wrong, the fact the sis tied herself to her own hell, first from cheating then again by refusing to ab0rt and AGAIN having another child when he made clear everyday he hates her, is so funny to me. If she wanted to be a b*tch and cheat, fine. But her refusing to ab0rt when she had the chance out of clear stubbornness and thinking "she won" if she kept it by then keeping him when him demanding it to begin with should've been clear not to have a kid with him. I won't deny, he could've been abusive to OP too had she stayed, but he's made clear WHY he does what he does and won't stop and she makes clear she won't leave continue the abuse WITH the kids. THAT'S even worse than if he was just an abusive person through and through and will snap one day if she doesn't stop being stubborn and LEAVE. Worse than him and sis are the parents seriously blaming OP instead of trying to get the sister out of the situation 🙄 all that's all ON THEM and not a drop on OP Story 2: Karma. Shouldn't have lying, and their jobs wouldn't have been in jeopardy, which would've come anyway when the jobs start demanding proof, unless they were giving them fakes, then again, that's on THEM. Story 3: Misery loves company, now Momster IL and SIL can be in misery they tried to OP together instead
Physical abuse is NOT what she deserved... and how long until he starts in on that kid he never wanted? The sister is acting like someone who wants to believe something she knows isn't true. That's the revenge... she knows it's all in her head, lol. That's going to eat away at her forever. She desperately needs to believe OP was abused too. Then when OP said good things about her boyfriend, it would have been a plot to trick the sister into cheating with him, and OP freed herself at her sister's expense. Now this is insane on it's face, lol. Nobody believe that, not even the sister... but she needs to find a way to believe it anyway. Then it's the world plotting against her, not her own actions that have ruined her life. If she can convince herself of this, she doesn't need to take accountability or suffer the wounded pride of admitting she screwed up. You see this all the time. Religious zealots in Internet comments... the folks who have never read the Bible but still quote snippets constantly. They don't have the most faith, they have the least. They need to believe, and the first step in that is making sure others believe too. But if you believe, then all the bad stuff comes from the Devil... Atheists... The Far Left... pick your red herring. Sovereign Citizens... same deal. There's no logic to their claims, but they NEED to believe it. Then nothing they want to do is "wrong", and it's all just a conspiracy against them by the government. The political dichotomy, left VS right... Why did Crystal Pepsi fail... had to be either Trump or Harris, lol. Facts don't matter, people just need someone else to blame. Flat-Earthers, Anti-Vaxxers, the "Chem-trail' folks. Incels/Femcels... It's not even about "blame" so much as "understanding". With these kinds of people, it boils down to : "This is the way the world makes sense to me, therefore it must work exactly that way because I cannot conceive of a world that works differently from my own ability to understand". They find comfort in that illusion of certainty, and will cling to it with everything they have. But every once in a while, something happens that doesn't line up with their perfect little model of the world. And since we've established they cannot accept their understanding must have been wrong, they need to point the finger at some malevolent external force that is undermining them. That's what makes sense to them. This way of thinking is almost universal among the Autistic, but with therapy in childhood, most of them overcome that flawed reasoning quite well. There are a huge number of adults though, who, while not likely autistic themselves, do at least share that trait, and they are not taught things like systematic logic in any formal sense. They're not put on mood-stabilizers (though many sorely need them, lol). I do think people like this are mentally ill and just slipping through the cracks. Back to the story... The sister NEEDs to believe her sister set her up to fail with this relationship because that is the only way her world will continue to make sense. She KNOWS this is a stretch of the imagination, she knows she sounds crazy to others. But she cannot fathom how her own actions have led her here. That makes no sense to her. She cannot admit she failed to see the guy for who he really was (despite it being pretty obvious when he started cheating with her), so there has to be someone else working against her, and OP is the closest to that situation. But deep down, the sister knows she's desperately lying to herself. When the sympathy runs dry for her bad choices (which her parents are NOT helping), she's going to have to face it, and she will hate herself even more for it. If that time never comes, then her life will only get worse. She doesn't deserve a beating, but the humiliation, self-loathing, confusion, and wearing out her welcome with everyone else in her life... she chose that when she hooked up with him, and she's chosen it every day since. That's who she is destined to be. Her life will suck, and while there will be bad people in it from time to time, adding insult to injury, like her current husband, her life will always suck, with or without him. She'll trade in that dirt-bag for abusive baby-daddy number 2, number 3, number 4... it's who she is. She didn't need to join the Army to "be all she can be", she just needed to spread her legs for her sister's boyfriend on her daddy's sofa during a family brunch. That's where she peaked, lol. That's punishment enough.
Story #2 - OK, so OP's mom was asking for money for the grandparent's care and funeral expenses, then pocketing it. Typical dirt-bag move. I assume she's an addict or something, because that's pretty low. She must've been really desperate. There's nothing to do there but alert your lawyer, and stay clear and avoid her like the plague. As for the family... Those who scammed a day off by pretending to be helping the grandparents... they're safe. They have low-end jobs. In a "real job", you don't need to make excuses for taking a personal day, lol. You've accrued the time, you use the time, "why" is your business. A good boss in a good job does not care. If their boss cares at all, it's the sort of job where the "Boss" is 19, has a GED and a nametag. And if they fire someone for this, they'll have to replace them with someone else who will do the exact same thing anyway, but now they have to train a new person and eat that hit to their productivity numbers. They're not going to do that (unless they were just looking for an excuse anyway). The people managing those employees may not be rocket scientists, but they're not idiots. They won't act on that. Those who scammed FMLA on the other hand committed fraud. They're looking at Federal Prison, lol. They won't make a peep, you've got them by the balls, lol. Prosecutors LOVE paperwork like medical bills and service invoices. OP's got those, the others don't. All the lies in the world won't let them survive legal discovery, they are no threat at all. And it's not even OP who has to go after them, it's the State AND their employer. OP, at most would sit for a 1 hour deposition via zoom and email or fax some paperwork. That's it. Worst case scenario is a couple hours of tedious questions and paperwork which will send the objectional parties away for years if they push too hard. These people are not the most formidable threats, just a lot of useless, probably unhinged posturing by idiots. Pour a stiff drink, sit back and enjoy the show. "Bad people hate calm voices"... I like this Grandma, lol. And OP has every reason to confront the family calmly now. They are powerless, there's nothing to get your panties in a twist about, aside from the obvious audacity, but I'm betting OP saw that coming from a mile away, lol.
I’m gonna sound like a total pick-me here but I only feel bad for the kids. I don’t give a shit about how the cheating sister feels, or how she’s being treated. She wanted OP’s husband? Well now she’s got him and all the negatives that come along with him.
As much as i think op is most definitely a doormat. She doesn't deserve the absolute lunacy of this family. How tf are yall mad at op that this cheater bf is now beating op's sister's ass. That's some grade A overreach right there. Bf clearly hates the sister for being baby trapped lol. See op better than me. I would've said karma got you hard and blocked them all. 🤣
Story 1: stories like this absolutley enrage me! How patronising & condescending is op!? First of all, you got cheated on by your scum bag boyfriend with your spoiled brat of a sister...youre not a prisoner of war survivor, secondly, you put your story on reddit & obviously was hoping for only back pats & applause for being the bigger person even with all that suffering, instead of sticking up for yourself, then you go on & on about how you refuse to be anything other than some holier than thou, i can forgive anything & anyone no matter how much they have wronged me & if you call me a door mat ill feign being the bigger person once again but know youre childish & you need to do better! There needs to come a day where you realise that not being rode roughshod is better than being a push over all your life, again you got cheated on, the pity grom others for that will only get you so far so why justify your parents & sisters behaviour, theyre venomous people who clearly dont gaf about you. Cut em off!
Oh wow...he probably blames the younger sister for ruining his relationship with the elder. It's his fault for cheated but she and the children are now the embodiment of his guilt. He can't take accountability for his part, so he beats her. She can't take accountability for her part so she blames the elder sister. They both betrayed OP, but she dodged so many bullets.
Agreed
How delusional do you have to be to steal someone’s bf and then assume they think they are better than you because they weren’t abused like wtf
😂😂😂
A family of misogynists who would rather blame a woman for a man's abuse. How disgusting. It's so telling that OP'S crappy family came to her with anger and blame, rather than being concerned that OP might have been hurt by this man and didn't feel safe to tell her family. They're completely fine with the idea of OP being abused. Those people are awful and deserve all the misery that they encounter. I only feel bad for the kids, who are innocent and have been born into an abusive family.
It has nothing to do with mysogyny. Please stop blaming everything on all these different things
This is about the sister who is the GOLDEN CHILD
You can't put everything under the umbrella of an -ism or phobia
Racism
Sexism
Transphobia
That doesn't hold these people responsible for their own behavior which is far more complex than just being put under a label
This has to do with the family having issues and not wanting to actually admit their favoritism
@@shadowcollins4589it's misogyny to blame women for men's bad behavior
She thought a cheater would treat her right? What’s with people thinking that, also she kinda hit with karma hard in that relationship.
Abusers typically conceal their nature until they feel that they’ve isolated their target explicitly to prevent losing control of them or facing consequences for their actions. It’s totally reasonable that OP wouldn’t have known her ex was an abuser if he never felt like he had her tied down.
It’s also possible that his frustration at not being able to get back with OP accelerated his timetable on the sister, which may be part of why he DIDN’T wait with her.
Story 1. It's karma because op ex is upset because her sister isn't op that's why he was sick of op sister and her family smh serve them right. They have audacity to blame op when they took the cheater side. That's their punishment. Her family relatives are narcissist pricks and losers. Except op brother the rest can go to hell.
Yeah was about to say the brother and OP sound like the only normal people in the family. It’s also clear who the golden child is in the family and who can do no wrong.
So him cheating and on a girl with her sister was ok, but him smacking sister around is a no go? He’s being morally consistent. What’s with the shocked Pikachu face?
Oh I'm sorry the dirtbag that cheated on his girlfriend with her brat sister turns out be a bad guy, really, the parents and sister mustn't have been in line for common sense or decency
Cheating is a form of abuse, he progressed to physical abuse after the marriage and pregnancy, sister got her Karma for helping him abuse you. And yet she STAYS???
For the last story, I'd send a happy anniversary email or text to the mom and sister at the 6 and 12 month marks in their marriage with a big middle finger attached to it. I'd send it every anniversary after that too. They don't respect OP, their son, or the marriage. You don't need people like that in your life.
Maybe it because he ruined a good relationship now hes stuck with the affair partner and their kid 😂
Story 3, OP and her husband ought to on how long his parents marriage will last after this
S2: they’re only mad bcz they were caught lying to their workplace, hopefully they were reprimanded. Also I hope only OP gets inheritance if there is and they go no contact with the entire family, also that they get a lawyer to cover their butt for just in case
Lemme play armchair internet therapist at 3:38. We have OP, sister, and fuckboi. Fuckboi most likely feels resentment towards sister for breaking up his relationship with OP and baby trapping him into marriage. At first he was more attracted to sister, but later found put that her looks camouflaged her shit personality. I’m guessing that someone who’s willing to throw themselves at their sister’s boyfriend isn’t a good person. So he felt resentful, because he fucked up and is trapped in a relationship with an awful person and he resorts to violence because he wants her to leave him. Now I am in now way saying sister deserves to get abused….I may believe it, but I’m not gonna say it.
Story 1: I hope ex continues to cheat on sister
I don't know how op thought it was her fault in the first story where is the common fucking sense
Story 1: Karma
The ex has an abuse method that includes revealing his true colors at a particular time or life event situation after his partner becomes fully invested in/dependent upon him. The ex prefers to start abusing after children are born. Some abusive partners wait until after moving in together, others after the wedding, and others after kids are born (kids usually born early into the relationship because abusers can’t keep up their façade of being good people for a long time). They wait until they think they have their victim in their clutches on a long term scale.
OP1 is a doormat
*gets called a doormat*
Throws a tantrum and says it's juvenile.
No honey, you really are making yourself look like a doormat, either describe yourself better or accept you are one and move along
My ex did the same to me. The minute we got married, he flipped. The only difference was that he didn't hit me. It took me a lot longer to realize what was going on
Narcissists don't recognize narcissists
Abusers often wait until you're pregnant, he would have hit OP if they got that far
Don’t ask your sister for forgiveness she’s the wrong
Girl, what do you call cheating but abuse?!
While wrong, the fact the sis tied herself to her own hell, first from cheating then again by refusing to ab0rt and AGAIN having another child when he made clear everyday he hates her, is so funny to me.
If she wanted to be a b*tch and cheat, fine. But her refusing to ab0rt when she had the chance out of clear stubbornness and thinking "she won" if she kept it by then keeping him when him demanding it to begin with should've been clear not to have a kid with him.
I won't deny, he could've been abusive to OP too had she stayed, but he's made clear WHY he does what he does and won't stop and she makes clear she won't leave continue the abuse WITH the kids. THAT'S even worse than if he was just an abusive person through and through and will snap one day if she doesn't stop being stubborn and LEAVE.
Worse than him and sis are the parents seriously blaming OP instead of trying to get the sister out of the situation 🙄 all that's all ON THEM and not a drop on OP
Story 2: Karma. Shouldn't have lying, and their jobs wouldn't have been in jeopardy, which would've come anyway when the jobs start demanding proof, unless they were giving them fakes, then again, that's on THEM.
Story 3: Misery loves company, now Momster IL and SIL can be in misery they tried to OP together instead
Me: that’s karma don’t talk to me white
Then I walk out
Oh boohoo the sister is being abused.
My sentiment exactly. Feels like karma to me
Physical abuse is NOT what she deserved... and how long until he starts in on that kid he never wanted?
The sister is acting like someone who wants to believe something she knows isn't true. That's the revenge... she knows it's all in her head, lol. That's going to eat away at her forever.
She desperately needs to believe OP was abused too. Then when OP said good things about her boyfriend, it would have been a plot to trick the sister into cheating with him, and OP freed herself at her sister's expense. Now this is insane on it's face, lol. Nobody believe that, not even the sister... but she needs to find a way to believe it anyway. Then it's the world plotting against her, not her own actions that have ruined her life. If she can convince herself of this, she doesn't need to take accountability or suffer the wounded pride of admitting she screwed up.
You see this all the time. Religious zealots in Internet comments... the folks who have never read the Bible but still quote snippets constantly. They don't have the most faith, they have the least. They need to believe, and the first step in that is making sure others believe too. But if you believe, then all the bad stuff comes from the Devil... Atheists... The Far Left... pick your red herring.
Sovereign Citizens... same deal. There's no logic to their claims, but they NEED to believe it. Then nothing they want to do is "wrong", and it's all just a conspiracy against them by the government.
The political dichotomy, left VS right... Why did Crystal Pepsi fail... had to be either Trump or Harris, lol. Facts don't matter, people just need someone else to blame.
Flat-Earthers, Anti-Vaxxers, the "Chem-trail' folks. Incels/Femcels...
It's not even about "blame" so much as "understanding". With these kinds of people, it boils down to :
"This is the way the world makes sense to me, therefore it must work exactly that way because I cannot conceive of a world that works differently from my own ability to understand".
They find comfort in that illusion of certainty, and will cling to it with everything they have. But every once in a while, something happens that doesn't line up with their perfect little model of the world. And since we've established they cannot accept their understanding must have been wrong, they need to point the finger at some malevolent external force that is undermining them. That's what makes sense to them.
This way of thinking is almost universal among the Autistic, but with therapy in childhood, most of them overcome that flawed reasoning quite well. There are a huge number of adults though, who, while not likely autistic themselves, do at least share that trait, and they are not taught things like systematic logic in any formal sense. They're not put on mood-stabilizers (though many sorely need them, lol). I do think people like this are mentally ill and just slipping through the cracks.
Back to the story... The sister NEEDs to believe her sister set her up to fail with this relationship because that is the only way her world will continue to make sense. She KNOWS this is a stretch of the imagination, she knows she sounds crazy to others. But she cannot fathom how her own actions have led her here. That makes no sense to her. She cannot admit she failed to see the guy for who he really was (despite it being pretty obvious when he started cheating with her), so there has to be someone else working against her, and OP is the closest to that situation.
But deep down, the sister knows she's desperately lying to herself. When the sympathy runs dry for her bad choices (which her parents are NOT helping), she's going to have to face it, and she will hate herself even more for it. If that time never comes, then her life will only get worse. She doesn't deserve a beating, but the humiliation, self-loathing, confusion, and wearing out her welcome with everyone else in her life... she chose that when she hooked up with him, and she's chosen it every day since. That's who she is destined to be. Her life will suck, and while there will be bad people in it from time to time, adding insult to injury, like her current husband, her life will always suck, with or without him. She'll trade in that dirt-bag for abusive baby-daddy number 2, number 3, number 4... it's who she is. She didn't need to join the Army to "be all she can be", she just needed to spread her legs for her sister's boyfriend on her daddy's sofa during a family brunch. That's where she peaked, lol. That's punishment enough.
@@MikeSVZ no concern for the kids seeing dad hit mom?
Story #2 -
OK, so OP's mom was asking for money for the grandparent's care and funeral expenses, then pocketing it. Typical dirt-bag move. I assume she's an addict or something, because that's pretty low. She must've been really desperate. There's nothing to do there but alert your lawyer, and stay clear and avoid her like the plague.
As for the family...
Those who scammed a day off by pretending to be helping the grandparents... they're safe. They have low-end jobs. In a "real job", you don't need to make excuses for taking a personal day, lol. You've accrued the time, you use the time, "why" is your business. A good boss in a good job does not care.
If their boss cares at all, it's the sort of job where the "Boss" is 19, has a GED and a nametag. And if they fire someone for this, they'll have to replace them with someone else who will do the exact same thing anyway, but now they have to train a new person and eat that hit to their productivity numbers. They're not going to do that (unless they were just looking for an excuse anyway). The people managing those employees may not be rocket scientists, but they're not idiots. They won't act on that.
Those who scammed FMLA on the other hand committed fraud. They're looking at Federal Prison, lol. They won't make a peep, you've got them by the balls, lol. Prosecutors LOVE paperwork like medical bills and service invoices. OP's got those, the others don't. All the lies in the world won't let them survive legal discovery, they are no threat at all. And it's not even OP who has to go after them, it's the State AND their employer. OP, at most would sit for a 1 hour deposition via zoom and email or fax some paperwork. That's it. Worst case scenario is a couple hours of tedious questions and paperwork which will send the objectional parties away for years if they push too hard.
These people are not the most formidable threats, just a lot of useless, probably unhinged posturing by idiots. Pour a stiff drink, sit back and enjoy the show.
"Bad people hate calm voices"... I like this Grandma, lol. And OP has every reason to confront the family calmly now. They are powerless, there's nothing to get your panties in a twist about, aside from the obvious audacity, but I'm betting OP saw that coming from a mile away, lol.
I’m gonna sound like a total pick-me here but I only feel bad for the kids. I don’t give a shit about how the cheating sister feels, or how she’s being treated. She wanted OP’s husband? Well now she’s got him and all the negatives that come along with him.
How delusional you haft to be to blame Op for her ex husband being abusive.
As much as i think op is most definitely a doormat. She doesn't deserve the absolute lunacy of this family. How tf are yall mad at op that this cheater bf is now beating op's sister's ass. That's some grade A overreach right there. Bf clearly hates the sister for being baby trapped lol. See op better than me. I would've said karma got you hard and blocked them all. 🤣
Story 1: Doormat
Story 1: stories like this absolutley enrage me!
How patronising & condescending is op!? First of all, you got cheated on by your scum bag boyfriend with your spoiled brat of a sister...youre not a prisoner of war survivor, secondly, you put your story on reddit & obviously was hoping for only back pats & applause for being the bigger person even with all that suffering, instead of sticking up for yourself, then you go on & on about how you refuse to be anything other than some holier than thou, i can forgive anything & anyone no matter how much they have wronged me & if you call me a door mat ill feign being the bigger person once again but know youre childish & you need to do better!
There needs to come a day where you realise that not being rode roughshod is better than being a push over all your life, again you got cheated on, the pity grom others for that will only get you so far so why justify your parents & sisters behaviour, theyre venomous people who clearly dont gaf about you. Cut em off!