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"You're making it hard to defend you." The fact that you're still defending them in the first place is shocking. Also, WHY SO MANY EVENTS?!?! What happened to just individual adventures told in one issue?!
They don't make as much money as events
Correction: they lose more money
_One_ issue? Hello, boomer. 👋
@crimsonmask3819 since when do boomers say that? Also, I can tell you're a kid, no mature person says "boomer"
@@DiamondBatToons In fact, no. But anyone expecting a _one and done_ single-issue story from Marvel or DC outside their kiddy labels can't have been reading their books anytime in the last thirty years. That two-year run of Batman with two-issue arcs in the mid-90s was one of the last notable exceptions to the longer-form six-issue arcs and multiple-title crossovers that have become the norm ever since. Even those weren't single-issue stories.
I can just feel Bennys high blood pressure and stress levels go up as he rants about Marvel
🤣 🤣 😂
I read this like 2 seconds before the video started and the timing was perfect 😂
He sounds like Gordon Ramsay when he yelling lol 😂
Halfway through the video I was laughing, especially the part with Wolverine........you could literally see Benny's braincells fighting with each other 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's Logan's all the way down.
"I'm The Best There Is At What I Do, But What I Do Best Isn't Very Nice." -Wolverine
He's a great character just sad how Marvel is treating the Mutants ever since they got them back from Fox.@@Zoshnell
Into the Loganverse, where everyone is a clone of wolverine. Cy-verine, Jean Greyverine, Stormverine, Nightverine. they all have their own powers but also logans, along with adamantium skeleton and claws. Captain Amerverine, The Thingverine.
I really appreciate the part where he said it feels like homework reading events and all of the tie-ins. 😂
TBF that's pretty much how they lost me on the MCU, at some point between the movies, shorts, TV series on 3 different networks and retroactively involving literally every other movie they or Fox or Sony ever made, it's just way too much
How most marvel comic series are
That is why it is so hard to tell a friend that wants to begin reading comics, it is not as simple as Manga. Not only reading order, you have consistent Art and consistent Storytelling. Also clear and consistent Issue Numbering. Plus if there is a side story it is marked clearly as a side story either by making it a .5 issue or by having a different name that you can read if you want to learn more about it.
Tell them to read DC. DC monthlies are mostly self contained even during events.
Marvel is a giant shtshow
Alternatively, you could tell them to simply not read big two comics. There's tons of comics out there that are just one story with a beginning and end.
@@danielyoungblood3931 broccoli boy energy.
@@OmniDan26 What does this mean?
Manga sucks
33:03 “Don’t trick me, just tell me where to go.” I’ve always said this RESPECT THE CONSUMERS, give us a reason to go to these other tie ends, not just a list of read everything and jus expect us to comply. You gotta give people a direction to go In because we don’t know what’s going on but you do. Idk why not a single person thought of this solution in Marvel yet.
It's because they're greedy.
They want you to buy as many books as possible. They want the collectors to buy everything. They want the casuals to buy the follow ups. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY AND THEY'LL DO EVERYTHING TO DO IT.
I remember a time that events revolved around teams and connected solo titles. If they wanted another connection to a completely unrelated character, it was a throwaway, one-issue story that had a minor tie.
If you were doing an X-Men event, it was included in X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, Wolverine, sometimes Excalibur, Cable, and what-not. Oh, and there's a minor tie-in with Spider-Man, but it's not necessary to read that. Either way, if the X-Men were dealing with something major, you knew which books to go to. A year or so later, they'd release a TPB with a list of all of the issues covered.
Anymore, there are just so many characters that people consider A-tier that they HAVE to be in every major event. Some people say that it helps to connect the universe, but it makes it where the story is now mandated to be spread incredibly thin across the universe now. I'll read event books now and see characters and think wtf?! Why are they here?
Not every event needs to be a Secret Wars or Infinity Saga level event. There are some amazing stories that involve one group, that I honestly don't care what Captain America thinks of this situation. Moon Knight did a story that involved many characters and was a World Changing event, but they kept it in and resolved it in the issues of Moon Knight.
I think that the idea of Event Stories has been overblown to where there are events happening one right after another, even during other events. It's why I don't read events anymore. I just catch up after everything is over. I think people forget that the calm between is just as important. Otherwise, you're just having to continually ramp things up. Which gets old real quick.
"Spilling your Marvel juice all over my face" out loud on speakers was a horrible idea!
You turned on?
@@Akkbar21 I mean.......it's Benny!! What can I say?
Marvel don't release 85 tie in issues for every event challenge (Level: Impossible)
Dc literally just did this with knight terrors lmao
Fr marvel 😂
@@Bungycb DC too, they ain't exempt 😅 I remember death metal
@@yourkingreturnsAll those tie ins where so exhausting to follow.
Benny, I’ll be blunt. I’ve never seen you this miffed.
I JUST WANT TO ENJOY FALL OF X! NOT DO HOMEWORK LOL
It's unreal how the big two have completely dropped done-in-one simple stories. Now everything must be this groundbreaking event that changes everything with what we knew turning out to be lies. Superhero comics are like that bus from _Speed_ where If they drop below 55 mph than it explodes.
when i was looking for events and arcs to read, i noticed how every single one is described to be groundbreaking and crucial and thought it lost all meaning. i'm a new comic reader, so it's nice to know that it wasn't just a me being overwhelmed thing.
@@amorfatikhb There are only a handful of these events from the last two decades that I think are genuinely good and don't require much homework to catch up.
DC: Blackest Night, Final Crisis, and Dark Knights Metal.
Marvel: Annihilation, AXIS, and Spider Island.
To be fair, the X-men were never easy to follow when it came to their stories.
As an old fan I can confirm. This is just more of the same as far as X-Men is concerned. When was it not a big confused mess?
Wrong. Back when they had actual story arcs X-Men was easy to follow. Fatal Attractions, Bloodlines, God Loves Man Kills, X-Cutioners Song, etc.
They retconned x23 to be a genetic daughter of wolverine so honey badger is the clone of wolverine’s daughter, its a similar thing to terry mcguinnes and bruce
Lame.
Honestly I don’t mind that so much. Better than making Bobby gay.
that is the dumbest retcon thing i've heard, like why ruin the most interesting thing on her
again modern writers ruining everything
@@marcusclark1339tbh, it was kinda like that from the jump considering how they made her in the first place
@@marcusclark1339that was literally her origin story she's always been the clone daughter of Logan
As a newer comic fan, I thought I was crazy…love Krakoa stuff but following along seems like more trouble than it is worth…I was going to buy Alpha Flight before I watched this for goodness sake!
Don't get discouraged. The new Alpha Flight mini is good
Thanks, maybe will check it out after all
What titles are you wanting to get into? I could give you some good suggestions
I’m reading Al Ewing’s Hulk run, current X-Force/X-Men and various other books that happen to be at the library-always open to suggestions
It's garbage, they turned the X-Men into bigots and pretty much villains.
I was just about to say “Isn’t the Alpha Flight team all dead or something?” but you quickly explained it away as them rebuilding. Sometimes I wish things could just stay dead in comics. I’m so tired of death having no meaning. There are no stakes and there haven’t been stakes for a long time.
Kill that wish.
Videlxspopovich and the picture is wild.
Btw, the Bobby Thing is because of the hellfire gala and remember you said that he died well. He basically got almost destroyed, but now in order to survive he constantly has to recharge himself at his Antarctic ice palace thing. So that's kind of how the two tie in together. I don't know. I just have the first issue
My brain hurts. That’s why I like the idea of ultimate Spider-Man. Too bad you can’t get the Omni bus anymore because it’s out of print because I would love to read the entire ready of ultimate Spider-Man and it’s real simple to follow
I picked up the Ultimate Spider-Man Collection. It was a Barnes and Noble exclusive that pretty much has the same contents as the first omnibus except it's missing a few extras. Definitely recommend picking it up secondhand. Cheaper than the actual omnibus.
@shinyocelot04archive I need to do that, I've been reading Miles' comics but haven't gotten to Ultimate Peter's. My only problem is that American comics are pushed to a single bookshelf compared to manga in my Barnes and Nobles.💀
@@V..v..V Comics are almost non existent at my local Books A Million. Barnes and Noble has a single set of shelves while Manga has 3 times that. Sadly this collection is out of print, but it's still cheaper on eBay or wherever than getting the Omni.
Fall of X is following what they did with Fall of the Mutants back in the 80's where there wasn't a real overarching story-line driving the books but there was a theme of mutants having real bad stuff happen to lead them in new directions. Marvel seems to have thought that using "Fall of" would convey this to their audience but failed to recognize all the fans whose knowledge of X-lore doesn't include that and that bit of information leaving many folks confused as to what it is and how it is supposed to work.
King in black and venom threw me off I agree! Thanks to you my son listens to you everyday. I'm trying to give him the same joy I had as a kid growing up and the fact I can't be there to read him comic books, so we have him listen to you read series. God bless and keep up the amazing work. My son n I will stay tuned!!
theres no good reason to read these books, stop doing it and you'll be thankful for it, its just a bad brand now and has been for over a decade, it won't improve while the bad is still at the company
I agree about the thing of not having a core book to centralize the event being an issue. One reason why is, if there is a time when i want to go back a re-read a series and think about past events i would think about the core books and then read tie-ins that i enjoyed in the past. I would think about what event or era of comics that i would like to re-experience, but it becomes difficult if the events are too sporadic to the point when re-reading all the books involved messes with the pacing of the over-arching story i wish to re-experience. It makes some books difficult to go back to and enjoy. However if there isnt a core book series and i have to put in the extra work reading stories that only have a nod to the event, i just feel less likely to go back to read them again. But not only that, i just feel more disinterested in buying the comics as the event goes on, and more likey to read a synopsis of what happens to just know it when the event ends and we move on to the next.
That's wild
Kinda reminds me of Secret Wars 2, if anyone read aside from Mr. Where you only really needed to read the X-Men and New Mutants tie ins. The other tie ins in the reading order are literally unnecessary
The wolverine rant cracked me up
I don’t like this video… I LOVE IT!!!! This is exactly what I’ve been saying!!! Some of my friends are completely boycotting the x books right now cuz of this
Omg I completely agree with everything you said! Cannot stand how marvel is mapping their events. It is a mess. I am not spending hundreds of $ a month to keep up with all these individual comics. I will either wait for the breakdown videos through your or another comics channel, or I'll catch up on marvel unlimited.
This is why I’m sticking with Radiant Black and the Massiveverse.
While I'm not big into comics or manga I must say that anime is a lot easier as they don't have as much history nor tie-ins/crossovers. Anime also doesn't have 10+ versions of the same character where u have to specify which incarnation
Idk but im pretty sure over the years he had to cut his team down and probably not by choice i don't always watch but i come back for the full storyz and watch them to go to sleep wake up and rewind it or click on a playlist same with comics explained you guys are so good at the way you do your stories and how you keep on going even if you weren't pulling in numbers as fast because i would still say you're a huge star/role model i know people who don't even like comics anymore that know you guys or people who only watch you guys like me lmao other guys videos are to short or aren't as good tbh but i just wanted to say u make alot of kid teens and young adults still have a creative mind a open mind a reason to still have what if thoughts i love it and I will always appreciate every video you post
yes it hard to keep up but the problem is manga dont have different branching stories its just one straight line
I don't know.....I saw someone else review the scene where Kitty went Murder Hobo on all the guards.
Unless I missed something (like her protecting people off screen), there was NO reason for her to kill anyone, considering her power is to be untouched by anything!!
She literally could have just walked away, in any direction she wanted.
To me, what I have heard about the X-Men makes them more like Super Villains than anything Magneto did in his early days (unless we are talking about Ultimate Magneto.....and they are getting close there 🙄)
Cable is teaming up with Bishop. And how could you remember Cable but not remember Bishop. They're both time travels, they both come from F'ed up futures/alternate realities, they both have uniqueish power sets, really not much that separates them but...oh yeah. Nevermind. I agree with the rant.
luv how u said the front of Manga ❤ u read them backwards jus made me def luv this channel ❤
The entire Krakoan age of X-Men has been hard for me to get into for some reason. Everything after HoX/PoX is hard to follow. I just want to read Hickman's X-Men but I feel like I have to read the other titles to fully understand what is going on. Can I just stick to Hickman's stuff? If not, what extra titles are essential other than HoX/PoX and Inferno?
If you support trash they’ll keep making trash
I couldn't get into it either, all of the "of X" titles.
@@JohnClark-tt2bl It felt like it led into a big crossover every five minutes. Or you missed something crucial because you didn't read a certain book.
I stopped reading X-Men around the time Cyclops was shot in the head and couldn't use his beams to max without hurting himself. Then they did all the Krakoa stuff
Same, X-men used to always be my go to comic. The krakoan age however doesn't really capture the same vibe that they used to. They feel like they are framed more like how the inhumans were, a hermetic super culture of demi god elites.
I can feel Benny descend into a pit of madness with this. Damn. Although I think the Hellverine thing was cool but still.
How do I click on the link below to do the items to be sold not the hot sauce like the marvel poster
It's why I've always gravitated to B-teams or 25 issue runs. Exiles, Excalibur, X-force. The main line has been confusing for yeaaaars.
My first mutant comic I read was Excalibur back when it Braddock, Pryde, Kurt and all that. Loved it. So I tried to read Uncanny X-Men and Magneto is called Joseph and Northstar is dressed like quicksilver and Black Tom is a tree. So I decided from that day on I'd keep to the b-teams
Love this video, thanks man
its a money thing, they want you to buy everything that's why they don't give you an exact cohesive story in one book.
im so glad people like you support the single issue market so I can choose to buy the collected edition later if it's good. then i dont have to deal with any of that reading order bullshit
As an FGC connoisseur and a Comicbook fan I really appreciate you wearing the Street Fighter 6 merch.
I think it would be really interesting if you took a dive into UDON's street fighter comics.
I did forever ago, got tore up for mispronounced things lol. Vids are still up on the gaming channel though. I LOVE that story. Juri/Rashid main here
Wait you got a comic channel??
If so I want all your channel so I can subscribe
Bahaha homie this is one of the best rant problem videos ever! Thank you!
I just finished age of apocalypse, coming from dc I usually read the main through line book so it was weird not having one. Just following the marvel unlimited reading order religously. It was weird. And I couldn't imagine trying to read it as it came out. However, it was beautifully done. I think one of the parts that stood out the most was how intertwined it was. I dont think you could really skip any of the series without missing a large story element. It weaves together beautifully
Hey Benny can you cover mavel's contest of chaos??
It's the summer annual crossover event. I'd really love to hear it from your perspective!!
I'll buy a bottle of your hot sauce if you do.....
In an alternate universe, there is a world where hickman gave the x-men the fantastic 4 treatment and the world is better for it.
I am enjoying Fall of X, currently reading X-Men, Immortal X-Men, Invinicible Iron Man (Tony being involved makes sense if you read his books), Children of the Vault, Uncanny Avengers and Uncanny Spider-man.
I was reading Jean Grey and Dark X-Men, but gave up on them after #2 since they do not impact the event at all.
I thought the "X of Swords" title was a play on the ten of swords tarot card
"The Ten of Swords indicate a major disaster of some sort. It shows that a certain force of extreme magnitude has come to hit you in your life - one that you may have not foreseen. There is a sense of betrayal that is indicated here, for the character is stabbed in the back"
Nice Video Benny!
It’s so crazy to see Benny so much older I’ve been around since elligable monster with the cool little guitar intro the first video of his I ever watched was final crisis and I’ve been stuck ever since thank you for everything man
I used to buy comics from a few series, of two very different groups (X-Men, X-Force, and Ghost Rider) many years ago, but quit as they kept doing crossover event, after crossover event as a way to try to sell more comics.
I read comics all the time as a kid, but as I got into my 20s, I stopped reading because I got sick and tired of never knowing the full story. Like u said, go here. Read these pages now over here. I just started reading manga instead. When the apps came out like Marvel Unlimited, I subscribed, hoping there would be straightforward runs and stories where if u just started reading, it would put the right pages for the right places for you. But no pnce again it just has entire book line-ups, and I just got sick of finding stuff out of order and then went back to manga and youtube.
Man, whats even worse: they were making the "of x" paperbacks which was a great way to gather everything going on around the event, right?
Well, they freaking decided to stop doing these and now it's hell to catch up and complete my collection.
That is some serious BS
This garbage has been going on for years. People who are too committed to collecting everything marvel and dc put out for years are so enamored with the publishers that it blinded them to the grift. The FOMO is strong with a majority of big two readers. Glad I’m not a FANATIC.
High energy this time around, I appreciate your work in this video.
I like your videos you summed it up perfectly this is exactly why I stopped reading marvel comics altogether and won't go back to them.
I was wondering bro like it’s hard asf to get caught up on a lot of these
I like how fans can’t decide if they hate when everything matters with event tie-ins or want everything to matter with event tie-ins 🙄
Exactly, I remember people whining and complaining when they did this with Dark Crisis and Lazarus Planet but now they love it with Knight Terrors???
People and coherence are things that don’t tend to go together
The reading order is so broken in Fall of X that even in the books, it will say "x weeks later" or "x months later" and ambiguous phrases similar to this. It makes it nearly impossible to figure out how to put the books in linear order, which is my preferred order for reading, but tie-ins don't always get released that way.
They're not even using footnotes!? That's the absolute minimum one would need with an event.
Thank you!! Why do I have to read so many different books and tie ins to follow the story.
Seeing this a month late but ordered the hot sauce. Cant wait for it to arrive.
Yes another video bro ur videos are so cool bring more
All of that is on purpose, they want to force you to buy every single comic. The industry is burning and they are scrambling for embers...
Because the one-shots seem to have patchy availability if you don't pick it up in the first 48 hours but you can still use the 'event' as the name of the trade anthology when it comes out.
I like how you said you'd put a link for that poster you showed and didn't end up doing it lol. Where did you get it from?
The blue beetle bucket in the background seems kinda cool
I feel used! im bout to go trim
my pull list, ill be back!
I think I remember footnotes for comics from back in the day. Though the way things were described here, footnotes feel like they would take up half a page.
Honestly X-Men has been all over the place for so long I stopped reading a while ago.
I am long term Manga fan. Every-time I watch videos of you, Variant comics and other great creators, I so feel to get into comics but I don’t understand from where. I love X-men and sentinal story, I tried to read it but didn’t make any sense. Everytime I try to get into comics it’s just something out of the blue. Currently reading two chapters of Alpha Flight and it felt really good but most of the things are just too confusing when you are trying to get in.
Albert is part of the Marc Silvestri and Chris Claremont run from the '80's... He worked for the Nanny character as a partial-clone of Wolverine with cybernetic enhancements and the mind of a ten year old who was pivotally involved during the aftermath following Storm's resurrection after her being sucked into the Siege Perlilous in the late 80's after Nimrod was fused with Mastermold, which resulted in the death of a Senator's wife (The dude from the first X-Men Film)...
Man, comic's used to be the s#!t!
Glad to know I wasn't wrong when I assumed comic books were too complicated and all over the place
I feel the same way you feel. I will not buy anything from The Fall of C event except for Uncanny Spiderman. I am only buying Uncanny Spiderman just because Nightcrawler is my favorite X-men.
How come Fall of X doesn't have any core issues like AXE Judgement Day or King in Black? Marvel needs to bring in more Core issues whenever they do events. I understand Benny's point because Marvel is still struggling with using Interconnectivity. I really need to get back at reading Comic books.
So far, the only comic event I'm fixated on is Ultimate Invasion.
Because that was an actual event this is not. Fall of x just signifies the new saga we are in. So far this is the 4th krakoan saga. AXE takes places in the 3rd saga.
To fix your complaints they’d have to actually plan this shit and not just fly by the seat of their pants and make it up as they go along.
12:57. Hey come on Benny! 😂 I ❤ the Inhumans. They got ushered off to another dimension it seems.
Thanks for sharing
I've not read a Marvel comic books for years now
This guy has so much blood pressure in his voice. Love the content 😅 One Piece is just plain fun. I dont think too hard about it or try to make too much sense of the ridiculousness. American comic books forgot to be entertaining. Now they want to talk you down, preach, and act al presumptuous. I only read indie stuff. been collecting alotta stuff from Kickstarter.
Well for marvel and DC I don’t do monthly anymore. I haven’t done that for a long time. I just pick up trades or hard covers and I’ve also gone to manga
i completely agree with you. I have given up on X-Men and just reading my guy Logan's book and that's it
this rant ironically is a good way to follow all the "tie ins"
...spilling your Marvel juice all over my face...
Favorite video
Honestly, this is the exact reason I canceled my Marvel subs years ago.
I wonder how they are going to piece together the Fall of X in their Novel book.
My grandma eats salsa with a spoon too 😅
This kind of complexity is something that makes these mainstream superhero stories uniquely appealing, and the creative organization involved in mapping it all out is impressive. Expecting to be handheld by a centralized title and allowed to cherry-pick what parts to read is sort of an argument in favor of more empty bloat (if there are parts you _can_ ignore, then why produce those parts in the first place?).
That said, the cost of reading something like this quickly becomes outrageous. If the events keep building onto the same ongoing plotlines, that expense gets higher and higher. Who can afford this product in the long run?
are mainstream comic book fans all this high on the copium?
jesus.
i was literally *just* contemplating getting into the age of krakoa comics today bc it'd be playing 4 years of catch-ups, so this is wonderful to know lol
Totally agree. I've felt like that for a long time. That's why I stopped buying the books and started watching channels like yours if the title sounds interesting.
It was kinda like that in the late 80s, then Marvel got their crap together in the 90s. With Marvel being part of Disney now, who knows? Disney seems pretty happy with flushing money down the toilet. Maybe they're afraid of what'll happen if Daddy Walt gets his new robot body and has a gazillion dollars to spend.
I see your point fall of x is scattered and no connectivity but for me it’s more of a feeling of dangling plot threads and plot line that could take years to follow up tho this is why I say I want to pull something nostalgic out from under them cause the movies seems alright but just sequels or multiverse shenanigans and anyway the death of the inhumans left them off in pretty interesting place if not existentially scary cause only a dozen left also bony boyfriend inhuman and for dc that’s actually pretty alright just bring back the monkey prince and Batman needs help but doom patrol and the jsa book I’m with Helena Wayne great amazing even ties to doomsday clock and the monkey prince dbz in dc comics
This was just so disorganized, messy and exhausting... Every time I go in a store I just feel inundated with disorganization.
MANGA for life 😂
Hey, comicbook herald really comes in clutch 💪💪💪
It isn’t about telling you a story any more. Hasn’t been for a long time.
It’s about selling you a product that you can’t enjoy fully without the accessory product both of which only truly serve to hype you up for the next product. It’s just a money sink at this point.
When they used to do the status quo stuff they would put the old “see what happens next in (name comic here) readers!”
I feel ya man, I just gave up keeping up with Fall of X
I find the X-Men pretty boring. Their comics for the last two decades have been about them surviving yet another attempt to wipe out Mutants. I know they're hated and feared by the world they're sworn to protect but the merry Mutants aren't saving anyone but themselves. Marvel will always pump out X-Men comics so I know Mutants won't be wiped out. The comics feel pointless.
I loved 80s and 90s X-Men. Nothing from current Marvel interests me. I started One Piece this month and it's great so far. Just finished East Blue. If you want a good new superhero book I highly recommend the new manga called SHY.
I would also like to add that this makes it pretty much impossible to follow the story if you aren't doing it at the time. I don't know my follow the individual issues, but I heard marvel civil war was good. I got the paperback of the title, and it gave I think 5 issues from the beginning and end of the series, but skipped the entire middle. So I had a prologue, the conclusion where Captain America's killed, and the entire middle was missing. It wasn't even a part one or two. I literally could not read this story without researching which books individually to purchase. At least in things like final crisis the core paperback has the main story. It's just missing
Marvel never wants to own up to their mistakes. That's why Krakoa was destroyed by what's their name rather than something more fitting like civil war.
Idk about DC, but it seems like Marvel is trying to do a MCU type of reading, where instead of just having a bunch of unrelated issues that you can just read whenever you want, as it used to and as it should, EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED.
I imagine staff/editorial is even more confused than us and someone above (*cough* Disney *cough*) is telling them to do something for "brand synergy to bring in newcomers", but they don't realize this is counterintuitive, because that's not gonna make people think "wow! I'm gonna read all of these pointless issues just to follow this big event, just like the MCU", instead it's gonna make people just ignore them as usual and those that read only the tie-ins are gonna be like "why tf are there islands having s*x?!".
The only other theory I can think of is that someone at Marvel has some really weird idea and everyone is just as crazy to keep doing what they want to do because Marvel just doesn't care and will let kids use their work for fanfiction and fanservice.
Remember when onslaught did this and everyone hated onslaught becuase it made you buy everyone’s book instead of just following onslaught it’s the same thing and I understand your frustration
The reading order thing I think is a big reason that Manga is much more popular right now
It's a lot easier to follow and know what order to read in when a series is just one or two series of books as opposed to whatever mess Marvel is doing
Even Warhammer 40k which has a similar sort of universe structure to Marvel feels easier to follow where you're at in the series
It's the same problem I have with Spider-man. Marvel literally don't know what to do with the character.