How to Escape the Bottom of the Trench (500 MMR Coaching Session)

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    How to Escape the Bottom of the Trench (500 MMR Coaching Session)

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  • @jiminsbulge9448
    @jiminsbulge9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    0:31 “wh- why are you down there?”
    LOL IDK BSJ HELP ME

    • @heartearth4104
      @heartearth4104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💀💀💀 gotta pay for that

    • @blap8791
      @blap8791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lemme carry aha

    • @jiminsbulge9448
      @jiminsbulge9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blap please. these herald carries have no idea what they’re doing

    • @blap8791
      @blap8791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jiminsbulge9448 I'm ancient ma'am

    • @jiminsbulge9448
      @jiminsbulge9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blap cool story? lol

  • @GAMMASTAR321
    @GAMMASTAR321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Finally a TH-cam video about 500MMR and herald related, ive been waiting for this

    • @redark5704
      @redark5704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same man

    • @salusalmu8795
      @salusalmu8795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am sorry to say you this but if you are 500 mmr its not fun bro , games get fun at 4k+ btw

    • @petterikaristo9528
      @petterikaristo9528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @salu salmu you are completely wrong. You have no authority nor evidence to claim as a fact that games around 500mmr are not fun. It's a matter of opinion, and not only just your opinion.

    • @GAMMASTAR321
      @GAMMASTAR321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@salusalmu8795 so please tell me how to reach 4K+ mmr?

    • @GAMMASTAR321
      @GAMMASTAR321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Anox YT how to get good please tell me

  • @itsnotakuma
    @itsnotakuma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dude, you are so professional with your communication with the client. Your learning methods and leadership are also on point. Keep up the good work.

  • @joeldamminga7243
    @joeldamminga7243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love the low mmr sessions. They make me feel good because I know about some of the concepts being taught, but I usually am still able to learn something myself.

  • @jiminsbulge9448
    @jiminsbulge9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I needed this video so bad... only been playing Dota for 2 months and it’s so hard to find content about beginner-concepts that are necessary to learn before you can understand higher ranked concepts. Thank you for remembering us trench-inhabitants BSJ ❤️

    • @petterikaristo9528
      @petterikaristo9528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amazing! I started about six months ago :) have fun there!

    • @keithfoster4739
      @keithfoster4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm 2 weeks in, BSJ is all I got :(

    • @caspasouls1434
      @caspasouls1434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithfoster4739 jenkins for fun haha

    • @g8le
      @g8le 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hey you're the person from Jenkins herald review

  • @Neddy286
    @Neddy286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I like how BSJ is not judging. You can tell he is a great teacher when he can look past the "basic" things the tiny player is not doing, or doing wrongly. He can stay objective and give good criticism.

    • @UsernameXOXO
      @UsernameXOXO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meanwhile, when he plays with people over 5k that should know better, he can go hard!

  • @jacep9147
    @jacep9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    See, this is where you can see BSJ is a great coach: When he identifies that the trainee (playing mid) clearly has watched a lot of Dota, but hasn't played so much, so isn't used to the mechanics/importance of buying items quickly.
    That just shows you how incredible his holistic perception of the game is.
    Keep it going man 👏🏾

  • @sh3nnanigans79
    @sh3nnanigans79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I just want to see the one month follow up with this guy.
    Does he take this stuff to heart? Or does he continue in his terrible ways.

    • @Felix-tp8ch
      @Felix-tp8ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I feel like paying someone like bsj to coach yourself when youre herald (and that for a longer time) is such a waste of money. Theres enough content to get you to an average level. I feel youre wasting your time paying someone to tell you how to lasthit and place wards.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Felix-tp8ch that's 100% true. if you are 1k even a 4k player can help you

    • @PolicyofIllusion
      @PolicyofIllusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Felix-tp8ch It does have the great benefit of providing more of said content for other players to improve, but you're absolutely right, nobody needs to be paying for this kind of stuff.
      Sure am glad he spent the money though, because I think I have a few irls to send this one to and BSJ is a better authority on "you are playing badly" than I am lmao

    • @Felix-tp8ch
      @Felix-tp8ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PolicyofIllusion i think the fact theyre herald is enough authority

    • @PolicyofIllusion
      @PolicyofIllusion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Felix-tp8ch In my case my friends aren't literally Herald, but there are fundamentals from this video I think they could stand to have ironed out or at least be kept mindful of. Like, the vid's definitely helpful for anyone decently below average MMR

  • @juhkystar
    @juhkystar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Shoutout to this guy for being willing to learn and put himself out there! Seems pretty obvious that he's got a lot of potential but is just spreading his focus too much away from fundamentals. Hope we get an update and see him again! ^_^

    • @emilypole7781
      @emilypole7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      especially because he's just patiently sitting there and while BSJ is just visibly frustrated with his mistakes and just angrily repeating himself over and over

    • @ishallneverdie2445
      @ishallneverdie2445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "it seems pretty obvious that this dota student has a lot of potential"
      what makes you believe this?

  • @deadpres9534
    @deadpres9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This is the bsj we need. I wanna help people like this too.

    • @kassiocabral1639
      @kassiocabral1639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do videos. Every player has something to teach to another player since Dota us super dense. I will easily watch

  • @arjen6701
    @arjen6701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is like an nba player coaching an unranked junior highschool player.
    Love the content!

    • @rotshepherd3817
      @rotshepherd3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnklaus9111 I see you've never seen boxing coaches

  • @DeadlyShadow7
    @DeadlyShadow7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    best content :D this is actually so good for us newer players. I watch your vids alot, and its awesome and informative and all, but breaking it down to the fundamentals is gold :D one can learn pos 1 & 5 especially good with your advice, keep it up, BSJ !!

    • @DeadlyShadow7
      @DeadlyShadow7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can I pleaee double-like that…

  • @petertrigg9311
    @petertrigg9311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video BSJ, love to see you really hit the specifics of those first 10 minutes. Would be cool to see the same thing from offlane 3/4 perspectives

  • @chrisdvine
    @chrisdvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Wow coaching for my mmr!
    I mean uh.... I'm a great dota player.

    • @no3ironman11100
      @no3ironman11100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah we all be 9k gamers out here right

    • @eXonINC
      @eXonINC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@no3ironman11100 I'm actually 25k MMR. Later virgins

    • @eXonINC
      @eXonINC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For reals though, 4 days a week I'm below 1k, 3 days a week I'm above 1k. I cri erritiem

    • @flickmew99
      @flickmew99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well be there

  • @Matois1
    @Matois1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video is so helpful. I'm so bad at the game rn I can't even tell the guy is bad from his gameplay. Thanks BSJ

  • @valentinpopescu98
    @valentinpopescu98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I feel like this guy's general idea of playing is not bad. He is farming okayish, he doesn't force engagements when he is too low. I feel like he is me a couple of years ago when I started. Eventually he will rise in mmr if he keeps doing that...

    • @Koyaanisqatsi12
      @Koyaanisqatsi12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He jsut needs to learn to use a mic

    • @bloodandhonorireland3329
      @bloodandhonorireland3329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to be like 3k or so and then left dota for 2 years came back and im in a 500-1k mmr loop. Generally i out cs anyone im against and do a lot fundamental shit just plain better than people im playing against (not as cocky as that sounds). But i just cannot break the cycle i dont know what it is i think part of it is i cant bring myself to play simple heroes/trash heroes that stomp this mmr but as to what else it is i dunno i guess maybe i tilt too much at seeing retarded shit constantly.

    • @ishallneverdie2445
      @ishallneverdie2445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      false

    • @TerraFindleMan
      @TerraFindleMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bloodandhonorireland3329 I think you can stomp with any hero. Just have to play that much smarter or pick something that wins all the solo fights. Personally I spammed PA and PL to get back up to 2k when I calibrated super low like 1k.

  • @MunchinOnDew
    @MunchinOnDew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grateful for this content bro. I'm not about to pay for private lessons bc its just a hobby, one of many, so it's great you're giving some of this one on one coaching for free. Real gamerbro move.

  • @KshitizVaish01
    @KshitizVaish01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BSJ is amazing even when he sees things that frustrate him. Such an objective replay analysis and even giving him the chance to implement some advice and come back later for another half session.

  • @ArqVictorCastedo
    @ArqVictorCastedo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't wait for the next part of this Coaching session. These things are the ones that nobody teaches.

  • @sofaking4779
    @sofaking4779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Melee carries that don't buy quelling blade is the bane of 1k. There should be a DOTA script that just deducts 130 gold from them and puts a quelling they can't sell for the first 5 min in their inventory.

  • @Slateproc
    @Slateproc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I almost miss very low skill games, where i could pick and build whatever the fuck I wanted without a care in the world. Now it's all gotta be HAM without a thought of 'funny for the hell of it'

    • @pooshpoosh9232
      @pooshpoosh9232 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      non ranked for what?

  • @scorpius2501
    @scorpius2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm 2k MMR and I found this helpful to get my fundamental priorities in check

  • @AcceptanceDevOps
    @AcceptanceDevOps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your teaching skills are getting better and better, BSJ!

  • @xbon1
    @xbon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m trench but the difference is I’m in ‘murica. We way too poor to afford bsj coaching lmao

    • @LactoseDeath
      @LactoseDeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not even that we’re too poor it’s all sold out 😔

    • @Bradley_Dragon
      @Bradley_Dragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      also east us 500 mmr is like 3k other regions in terms of difficulty... like seriously? tiny safelane? at this mmr i dont see that. people actually tryhard at this mmr in us east.

    • @rotshepherd3817
      @rotshepherd3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Bradley_Dragon keep telling yourself that mate. Even though the best esports teams are European and Asian.

    • @Videoskuker
      @Videoskuker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Francepolice wiederlich!

    • @neothewon
      @neothewon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bradley_Dragon Play one game with me in SEA in 2k. You will go cry to your mommy even if you are 4k in USA after a 2k game in SEA. Get rekt son!

  • @ravocado4566
    @ravocado4566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I started playing I had ancient/legend players teach me the basics so I never went through this guy's thought processes. It's interesting to see his wierd mix of decision making.

  • @pedro4205
    @pedro4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally a guide for my level

  • @Rockycm1
    @Rockycm1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:36 this guy is so denial XD

  • @reign225
    @reign225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im super excited to see how this guys does. Waiting for the next episode.

  • @beestingb6288
    @beestingb6288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally a hearlad replay , thanx for the content

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THE WAND EPIDEMIC, more widespead than CORONA

  • @mv4770
    @mv4770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    To all the trench players here. It's okay bud. Not everyone is amazing at everything.

    • @OctopiWalgreens
      @OctopiWalgreens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Even so, there is always the ability to improve

    • @chrisbrooks6965
      @chrisbrooks6965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hard to win when you have a techies every game in hearld that goes 3/15

    • @edgrdfw
      @edgrdfw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chrisbrooks6965 i was literally 1MMR once, can confirm this. spamming slark is a good solution.

    • @Codec264
      @Codec264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly this is the hardest thing for me to handle, I carried myself out of trench in CSGO but I've never been a very mental gamer and I've really struggled with Dota.

    • @kunaldiddi
      @kunaldiddi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the trench really has crab mentality though

  • @scaly86
    @scaly86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to see a follow-up video to this one. Has this dude improved at all, or is he still stuck.

  • @stevediaz778
    @stevediaz778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BSJ, The wife-beater is on point 👌, next step, no shirt lessons 🤣. On a serious note, love watching your vids!!

  • @snoobriraq9523
    @snoobriraq9523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:20 I've never thought about it before.

  • @joecrafts5639
    @joecrafts5639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remarkable! Thank you for this gem, BSJ.

  • @seyieyietsu7303
    @seyieyietsu7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gain 980 mmr watching BSJ from 4K to 4980 now. My goal is to reach 5k.

    • @Io.Generals
      @Io.Generals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      u basically have done that. time to change goal

    • @thatonerandomguyontheinter4971
      @thatonerandomguyontheinter4971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a short goal after your progress xd

    • @flexoffender8159
      @flexoffender8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was probably his goal before he posted this progress update guys lmao

    • @edgrdfw
      @edgrdfw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i gained quite a bit from 1600 to 2200, next goal 3k i guess?

    • @xbon1
      @xbon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Io.Generals 4980 to 5k can take years. Source: took me 9 years to go from 430 to 450 mmr

  • @adventuritis
    @adventuritis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is going to really boost his gameplay

  • @joelb1299
    @joelb1299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy's biggest lane issue was the Hoodwink hugging the lane. Within the first 3 minutes, they're all the way up on the enemy tower. Meanwhile, the hood is sapping XP. Sure, he was getting CS, but then Pudge got the hook into his tower and forced the TP out. All that CS lost over just that. Now you'll get a fat hoodwink support who will probably try to carry when they should be supporting.

    • @bulbasaurboy9893
      @bulbasaurboy9893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't expect the support to stay out of the lane at such a low MMR. As BSJ said, the only thing you need to climb out of herald is good CS. Support hogging exp will become a problem only after 3k MMR I reckon.

    • @eboyce24
      @eboyce24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember playing support at low mmr and my objective for the first 5-7 minutes was DO NOT LET YOUR CARRY FEED. When you get a guy who lasthits and has game sense probably 2k above his mmr, it doesn't work out as well but sometimes the instant you leave is the instant the am/pudge smacks him around and suddenly you have a tiny that has tp'ed back to base 4-5 times and is griefing you about leaving him alone and is level 4 at 8 minutes instead of 6. Nahmean? That's some 500mmr support meta for you when you haven't played for several years.

  • @kunwararqum7419
    @kunwararqum7419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BSJ's Hairstyle is to drool over 😱

  • @josargor8179
    @josargor8179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    im like him. i've been playing dota since late 2016. i put having fun more than trying hard. first time i calibrated i was like 900 mmr. i know i was the skills to be better but sometimes trying hard gets in a way of me enjoying the game. got back into playing rank 3 months ago and recalibrated 1900. earned over 500 mmr in less than a month then stopped playing again. rank is not fun for me but i wonder how much higher i can go if i tried.

    • @justinroy3769
      @justinroy3769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you cant have fun in trying hard in Dota, then youre not playing the game correctly. Pubs arent fun 3k below, you start having fun 4k above since most players know the basics and you dont have random 900mmr idiots building battlefury on skywrath mage. If trying hard for you isnt fun then Dota isnt for you sorry

    • @polygon166
      @polygon166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justinroy3769 no player builds battlefury on sky unless he's a total newbie these days even low mmr matches have been taken over by Smurfs resulting into people loosing a lot of mmr that's the major problem

    • @justinroy3769
      @justinroy3769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@polygon166 ahahahaha trust me bro, ive played my cousins herald accounts... its real trust me, those people exist. I even saw oracles building diffusal xD

    • @polygon166
      @polygon166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justinroy3769 I see I play in Sea so it doesn't usually happen here unless that player is new to DotA otherwise no one would deliberately do that but the fact is a lot of smurfs ruining matches for low tired players and games are usually stomp so all the knowledge bsj gave here trying to help goes down the sink as soon as there's smurf stomping matches

    • @justinroy3769
      @justinroy3769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@polygon166 ahh. well about the smurf problem tho id recommend not thinking that way. herald smurf ar most likely 3k below because no person with decent mmr like lets say 4.5-5K would smurf on HERALD, i mean that bracket has players griefing their own teams so yeah most of them would probably smurf at crusader or smth. TLDR: smurfs in herald arent even that good tbh.
      This is just my opinion tho but I like smurfs, I learned from them by watching my replays and thats how I gained mmr... I also watch bsj ofc. Its going to be a stomp a couple times but instead of complaing "ugh these smurfs are holding me back from advancing" you can just learn from them really, find out how they stomp. Because honestly dude smurfs arent your problem, its mentality. The reason smurfs exist in the herald bracket is because they know people will just get tilted and never learn therefore keeping the game easy for them. But after a couple months I was giving smurfs a hard time, they couldnt do their usual shit since thay had to actually play. And let me tell you when you give them a hard time and prevent them from doing what they want they will return to being that toxic player that they are in their main bracket. Theyll start complaining about their team, make mistakes and bad decisions. So please stop with the smurf complain, the only reason people complain is because they dont want to try. Honestly i find it better to be agaisnt a smurf since its literally a player thast better than the rest of us in the pub meaning i can LEARN smth from that game VS playing with all heralds and learning NOTHING since all of us are shit, get it??

  • @halo2001jman
    @halo2001jman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed this. I’ve been stuck at 600 mmr for like a year

  • @shrwnsnty
    @shrwnsnty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BSJ really knows his stuff.

    • @LivingLyfelikeaMuffin
      @LivingLyfelikeaMuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The guy literally charges $300 an hour. Would never pay any money to get better at a video game.

  • @rhomuell
    @rhomuell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a new player calibrated into herald, one thing i realized is that i watch too many videos, but do too few of the drills... this leaves me with a lot of things i know i should be doing, but can't really execute properly. Rather than benefiting my play, all these things i worry about end up as distractions that fuck up my fundamentals. Learned from this vid that i should focus on CS and fundamentals first, then build from there later on.

    • @rhomuell
      @rhomuell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrote this comment during the first game. Apparently, bsj points out the next game that the trainee seems like he watches a lot, but played little like me. Lol. Bsj is so spot on

  • @alongpongener8997
    @alongpongener8997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One important question. From what MMR or till how much MMR should we consider playing our own game solo and when to rely on teammates? Given the right circumstances.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in a pub never rely on your teammates because they are not your teammates. Once there is some sort of communication then they become your teammates. so if they don't speak or you don't speak then you are not technically teammates - you just happened to play the same match on the same side

    • @awaishssn
      @awaishssn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I clearly remember for me that point came at about 2.3k and the whole game began to change in many ways. Below 2k was a real hard place to be at, but as you climb higher the whole dota experience just got much better as it was now an actual team game.

    • @paulfenix9
      @paulfenix9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honest answer, immortal player here, you should only start relying in your team when u reach mid/highish divine. I'm not saying this because it's just what I think: when I was legend/ancient, I figured that the way my winrate started increasing was when I played more selfishly and made sure I stomp my lane and keep snowballing, instead of focusing on my teammates and harming my own play just to let them have a better game. But if you are goin down the route I'm telling you, you should also make sure to pick appropriate heroes, that can scale and have very big impact in midgame. Once you then reach high divine/immortal you will start noticing you will be more punished for selfish plays and that you can/should also rely more on your teammates, but until then, forget it.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulfenix9 you can rely on your 1k mmr teammate if you both communicate to work together

    • @paulfenix9
      @paulfenix9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etofok I guess you can, I'm just telling what worked for me, and improved my winrate :)

  • @crookedlycrooked9256
    @crookedlycrooked9256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Meanwhile me who doesn't know what tango does :

    • @shgds
      @shgds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1mmr

  • @mohitaasi1963
    @mohitaasi1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More of this guy please! There are so many people like me who are like this guy lol

  • @andre881
    @andre881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you BSJ.
    You are the best

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my English Party from London is low immortal avg 2000ish. won like 16 battlecups together from 2017-19

  • @viliamdzubara3558
    @viliamdzubara3558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24:00 - 24:05 I just love it

  • @jasperno
    @jasperno ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video, thanks for your suggestions. I will be practicing my last hits for a while see what happens

  • @lukehemmings2847
    @lukehemmings2847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 3k and Im still learning from this video. Many thanks

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine being 3k trash 🤡

  • @gamingmoments289
    @gamingmoments289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In SEA server, the carry's laning stage ends at the 5th minute or so 😂, that is the time the mid laners get their Ultimate skill, and boom, the entropy takes over dota 😂

  • @zachb8012
    @zachb8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got respect for this dude, getting a coaching session despite being at the bottom of the trench. That kind of attitude is how you climb. I appreciate BSJ imparting actionable concepts to work on in the meantime instead of focusing on the obvious.

  • @claudianreyn4529
    @claudianreyn4529 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Herald and Guardian is, it's not enough to be slightly better, because you can't compensate for the lack of skills or griefing (etc.) of your team mates.
    You have to be way above the Herald level, to play so good that you most likely stomp the game yourself! And you can't do that with any hero, especially the ones who are dependent on good supports or team synergy.
    But here is the problem! If everyone wants to improve to get out of the lower bracket, no one will! That's the law of gravity.

  • @Bumiround
    @Bumiround 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came back to dota after 7 years and im archon, i swear they all played much better right now.

  • @gyroscooped2405
    @gyroscooped2405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Video for my bracket! I was guardian 1 at 850 week ago and now tilted down to 500 mmr...F

    • @high5ive557
      @high5ive557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I dropped from 990 to 600. I don’t like to play the blame game, but ppl in my bracket just can’t play as a team.

    • @gyroscooped2405
      @gyroscooped2405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@high5ive557 Dude today one sniper ruined my entire game...I was TA mid and he picked support sniper and came mid with me...I just left lane to roam and get kills and towers...fuck this bracket bro😂😂😂 there was Earth shaker with daedalus rush too!

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At this mmr people should start with setting up their hotkeys and mouse settings properly and then play like sf last hit challenge and tinker bots games. if you do it right you'll get 3k+ on your next calibration in 2 months of practicing (speaking from experience from introducing 10+ friends to dota)

    • @high5ive557
      @high5ive557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@etofok I don’t think my problem is farming or mechanics. Its the team. Everyone does whatever they want. Thats why I stopped ranking and only play parties with friends.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@high5ive557 everyone has a random team in pub tho it's not an argument at all unfortunate.

  • @halo_582
    @halo_582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thumbnail hits different

  • @redgoatfbi1554
    @redgoatfbi1554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BSJ you have the Balkans in your blood

  • @josephreynolds2401
    @josephreynolds2401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thing about Herald is that your team will flame you and mald when you farm as a carry. Or push the enemy jungle/towers on offlane.
    I've found the game is lost on the social side when the game knowledge is nonexistent. The most toxic players will decide the winning team.

  • @E2O10
    @E2O10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a part 2 to this? I know it's a long shot of a question since the video is a year old now, but i couldn't find part 2 in the playlist of the coaching sessions which lead me to believe that it's not accessible to the poor people? (just jokes ;) )

  • @farhadebrahimzadeh3420
    @farhadebrahimzadeh3420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BSJ u r really amazing and straight bro

  • @supersaiyingoku
    @supersaiyingoku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okey … this knowledge is insane … that why i stuck as cruisader 3-4 ….
    Thanks for this upload … i will rethink my strats

  • @msantiesteban
    @msantiesteban 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:58 Evolutionizes XD

  • @shashankthapa659
    @shashankthapa659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    BSJ PLEASE DO A SMURF VIDEO GOING FROM HERALD TO IMMORTAL! PLEASE.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      please do not. stop ruining games with smurfs. I don't care it's in fact bsj himself I will certainly report

    • @SuperGamerNinja74
      @SuperGamerNinja74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asking BSJ to ruin 300 games of dota 2 weirdchamp

    • @shashankthapa659
      @shashankthapa659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@etofok most of them are smurfs they just go unnoticed. That's the harsh reality Btw BSJ has smurfed his way from LEGEND TO IMMORTAL and he gives a lot of insights from his pov so it's helpful.

  • @anonymouse2573
    @anonymouse2573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shit I learned some stuff from this as 3k pos5/2k pos1(I switched roles and my rank dumped)

  • @davisantos5672
    @davisantos5672 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I found this channel I was 10mmr and thinking I knew something. I'm fast climbing, already 400mmr. EVERYONE still like to go JG and farm with me, the HC, but I still manage to solo carry most of the matchs.
    I love offlane but my HC is 200 GPM so I have to be the HC. If I try to ask my team to do something there's a 40% they'll try and fail and 60% they'll tell me to fuck off cuz this is not the W.cup. It's as BSJ said: don't base your game in your team actions.
    30% of the matchs I play with a friend who isn't a genius nor is studying dota but follow my calls and learn from my ever improving knowledge. Playing with him is almost granted free win.
    We have a saying in Brazil about "swallowing your tears and doing it" and that's what I'm doing. Who cares if my two sups are farming both sides of the JG for the whole game?

  • @EdgarTheOgre
    @EdgarTheOgre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would say that 99% of trench players are casual players that play 1 or 2 games a day. I am one of those (in the 3-4k trench for years). This is a factor most coaches are not considering when talking about getting out of the hole.
    Let's be real, considering that 99.99% of players have a 52% winrate, it is impossible to get out of the trench unless you play more games a day. And sometimes you invest some time to it and fo in a lose streak kekw.

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if your plays are 3k mmr then your mmr will stale at 3k it's as simple as that. you can play 2 games a week at 9k and never drop because you are in fact a 9k player. and such player will never have the 52% wr in 3k

  • @alexandru3606
    @alexandru3606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey brother , really appreciate what you have done in this video absolutely amazing the way you explained and that but is not jut that , no matter how much you trying to explain this fact and all the ways we should start and play on a ranked game in won't change at all believe me ... i just keep trying to get out of the herald zone and i cannot no matter how much i would try and 9 out of 10 times is not my fault i mean not my fault at all , my last 15 games i probably have like 6 or 7 wins or my last 20 games i have 6 or 7 wins all of them me MVP , wont matter what i play , support ,carry , offlaner ,hard support ,safe lane mid .. it just don't matter . And i come here because i wanted to say it over this content because u look professional in what you do and you know what means this game . The matchmaking sucks i mean it sucks so bad that it won't allow you to get out of the herald zone , i do understand the fact that the matchmaking should try to make it harder for u to climb into the division and offer you opponents of your samelevel or a bit stronger as a challenge but it just not that mate . The amount of stupid people that i get in my teams 8 out of 10 games is just so devastating , i can`t get rid of them in any way as much as i am trying . If you choose to report or avoid them the matchmaking it will give you even worst . i mean i tried , probably over my last 50 games i avoided like 60-70 players and report about same amount. I mean my skill is way of the top of the herald and crusader and probably anchor too and when i say it i mean it but the fact that i play only solo mmr it wont happen for me to actually achieve my real skill level and thats a dota 2 matchmaking fault and all the noobs who are playing this game without actually thinking they ruin other players game , they just don`t care. And i don't understand why the fuckers are playing ranked if they don`t know play properly ? i mean i am so sure a lot of the ones they have commented in this video section they are such a bad level of players that instead of taking information and watch how to play a hero and use the normal matches for like 20-30 times before you engaging with that hero into a ranked game ,because i have to say noobs like this like this Shit and trash players are the one that are destroying every single game in his way because they dont understand the perspective of a competitive game and that you actually need to join that game in order for you to play a tactic or teamplay . The game is not solo for you to just play by urself and trying to show your best .. !!! so much to say about this , i could write a BOOK . We need a solution about this . ! !!

  • @reddogbrew9427
    @reddogbrew9427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could get a BSJ coaching session. I feel like I could show him you can play a 3k game in the first 10 minutes and still lose a lot in this rank. I can imagine how many people may feel the same way but the Peruvians, toxic people, throwers, Smurf’s are all more detrimental to the game than playing 2-3k above your current rank. Just my opinion

  • @ShepSchaap
    @ShepSchaap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the second part of this coaching session available somewhere? Trying to escape the bottom of the trench myself D:

  • @yazeedlee1963
    @yazeedlee1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am now @900 MMR ty BSJ getting better

  • @sneakywes69
    @sneakywes69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant understate how important the mute button is for this bracket

  • @AcMcRevo
    @AcMcRevo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am 1.8k and I still can learn from this. Such a learning curve

  • @SiNpro88
    @SiNpro88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't seen tiny played as a POS 1 in years either.

  • @teeneshverma
    @teeneshverma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am also in herald 4

  • @istheyear-ry1el
    @istheyear-ry1el 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the problem with the trench is that once you got good score a few games then the matchmaking system will match u agaisnt smurfs team while you are matched with legit herald player then you gonna win lose win lose win lose and you just stuck there unless you are high level pro player you probably can escape other wise only a few rank up you can get. i got more than 20 kills and less than 5 deaths then the next game im with legit herald agaisnt smurfs team always happen

  • @azer66
    @azer66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want the follow up session!!!

  • @stevenmathias4630
    @stevenmathias4630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HELLO HERALD FAMILY

  • @gambletster
    @gambletster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tiny mistake was he was pushing lot being a safe laner u get extra armour under tower u r not a pos3 u r pushing like a pos3 . U dnt need a stick upgrade it was wrong item u need more utility farm camps till 9 mins if u r safelane... It will boost ur confidence

  • @dota2pronews864
    @dota2pronews864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    for once when i saw the thumbnail i thought bsj was smurfing in helard xD

  • @shivamutreja6427
    @shivamutreja6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a follow-up VOD somewhere as well?

  • @matthale5388
    @matthale5388 ปีที่แล้ว

    banana slam JAM p.s. love a good BSJ rant
    P.P.S any chance you can get your youtube editor to organise your playlists in numerical order - eg was watching your training with a liquid guy and 10th video was 1st and 1st video was 8th
    p.p.s I learnt a lot from this video - I never use quelling blade I will now thanks

  • @stjepanjurich
    @stjepanjurich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is what noobs like me needs! some parameters by which I can see if I have done well is lane :D

  • @12-343
    @12-343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm ~700mmr, but then again I've only been playing for a couple months

  • @juristgemawachi6904
    @juristgemawachi6904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Try playing at SEA you're gonna be stuck FOREVER

    • @polygon166
      @polygon166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh that's so f true I swear

    • @polygon166
      @polygon166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm herald forever and for a very good reason

  • @adamjohari
    @adamjohari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He plays better than 2k mmr i've seen

  • @uchihasasuke4712
    @uchihasasuke4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The more you play the more you know

  • @SarcaZmOn
    @SarcaZmOn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have herald friends. The problem with them is that they actually are not willing to out the effort. They wanna play only pos1. Their apm is like 40, lol. They quit at min 5. They don't use 90% of dota features.

  • @elipagnani4553
    @elipagnani4553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good sesh coach u on point rn

  • @atharvaathalye
    @atharvaathalye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot find part 2 of this video

  • @oyuyuy
    @oyuyuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey coachee, BSJ didn't mention this, but unless you're laning against Bristle or Batrider, you should NEVER start with Magic Stick on level 1. It's a complete waste of gold. Get stats for CSing instead.

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      herald you can get stick agaisnt zeus or lane combos that both spam spells

    • @eliaelirko9849
      @eliaelirko9849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KidTrigger or sky or sd, those spam all the time at that lvl

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eliaelirko9849 yeah your right I don’t understand what this 1k is saying in the original comment lol

    • @777mvtt
      @777mvtt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ur the hugest herald ever, my guy. Glad people are calling you out. Bristle, batrider? hahah that isn't all. So many other heroes spam in lane spells. Only pro supports SPAM spells off cd and always regen. Maybe in ur bracket people hold off on their spells even with full mana lmao give me a break. In my bracket 4k u should get stick against maybe 10+ heroes. Veno... bristle.. batrider.. zeus... even linas who spam their q and w, much much more heroes who spam their spells.. shadow demon.. sky... come on dude

    • @adammccarmychael9481
      @adammccarmychael9481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im a 5k offlane player and i get a stick in almost any lane i play, supports like mirana who sit in trees to cast their spells maybe buying sage mask or extra regen is better but this is stupid advice for sure.

  • @2jz76
    @2jz76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember my herald days fucking cancer ofter every 2 game i found a rundown midlaner

  • @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
    @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I am 2.5 k and the difference and the reason why 0-5 and 5-10 were to be played differently only clicked today.
    I had some feeling about it and had started to think about it but wasn't really clear how and why.

  • @padriec5
    @padriec5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 39:00 why would BSJ want him to buy glove over belt on Tiny? Wouldn't the health and damage from belt help CS more than the attack speed from glove?

    • @KenshiroPlayDotA
      @KenshiroPlayDotA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe BSJ mispoke and wanted to say belt. But Gloves of Haste at level 5 on Tiny also makes sense ; at that point, the laning stage may start to break, so it's not just about having more damage than your opponent, but it's also about farming the jungle quickly. Tiny has a base attack speed of 90, compared to 100 for normal heroes, and on top of that, he literally got an Agility growth of 0, so his attack speed stays at 90 even at level 30. Getting Gloves of Haste would be a tremendous DPS boost for jungling.

  • @trinohead
    @trinohead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how am I supposed to do 5v1 as tiny when I was doing well and I'm way leveled up than my enemy but then my team started feeding and don't help me so that led me to feed and suddenly my enemy is soo overpowered and my FV has build just a mkb and treds at 40 mnt mark how am I suppose to win that? and also my 2 teammates left the match. is it possible to win a match like this?

  • @redtsun67
    @redtsun67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    make sure you avoid getting DDoSed since there's not much you can do about that.

  • @anantvignesh9906
    @anantvignesh9906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BSJ Senpai, when are you planning to upload the second session. Please do so as early as possible so that we herald scrubs can improve 😂🙏

  • @jonkravetz6968
    @jonkravetz6968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, not everyone in herald is as bad as BSJ thinks. When im a support i pull camps and even do side pulls...and so do some other supports. I think the skill cap has changed a lot over the past few years and there are less brand new players. Am I wrong?

    • @CharroArgentino
      @CharroArgentino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People have a lot more knowledge nowadays than before for sure, and you can say the skill cap and floor is higher, but the thing is low mmr players still lack the fundamentals of the game just like everyone did back in the day, just knowing what pulling and creep aggro is doesn't mean anything. I see my low rank friends do them all the time, but they don't know WHY they're doing it, their knowledge stops at simply doing it. Pulling creeps help reset creep equilibrium, yes, everyone knows that, but it can also be used to force the enemy in disfavorable positions, forcing the enemy to contest a pull when they have no wave clear and you do means that they either commit to trying to kill the creeps and take a lot of damage from your aoe spells, or they leave it alone and you get all the benefits. Another example is stacking, I see people stacking early game because they think that's what supports are meant to do no matter what, but the enemy offlaner is an underlord, and you have a carry PA that can't farm stacks fast yet, so you're essentially just feeding the underlord gold instead of helping your carry, all of these are things you should consider when doing those little tricks, don't do them to fill a checkmark, do them to give yourself an advantage, it may sound obvious, but from my experience having watched a ton of matches from my friends it really is not.

  • @supersilverjnr9683
    @supersilverjnr9683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d just like the BSJ guide for what I should do for my first 10 ranked matches do I need to just commit and get it done to work from there?
    I’ve got 600+hours in unranked games

    • @vincent78433
      @vincent78433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pretty much exactly what this video is tbh

    • @etofok
      @etofok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      try to destroy the enemy's throne before your falls

  • @magorovthegreat6801
    @magorovthegreat6801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow... this dude is really lucky... I play carry position in EU, on around 300 mmr and I would do anything to lane against offlane antimage... Ive seen offlane antimage only once so far and he was on my team 😭