If you shoot a web with the web gun you can jump while in the web to get to a little bit extra height so you can get to some places you can't usually get to you but it's still trash
I definitely wouldn't say it's ugly but the theme just feels very striking and out of place. I love the red and blue tiles but it doesn't feel as coherent as other zones
I think it's really fitting lore wise, with the Chinese mythology being added with Hou Yi, Hundun and Chang'e, and even the stuff from Spelunky HD like the Yama and the Jiang Shi. It is kind of whiplash compared to the rest of the game, but still my favorite area by far
This is my most played game (besides minecraft but idk how many hours i have) I cant help myself but see parts of this video and just think to myself "Wow he didnt know this?" "Why would he do that when he couldve done this?" I could talk about this game for hours. Its actually a masterpiece of game design and i still learn something everytime i play it. If a horned lizard eats a dung beetle and gets to one health, whenever he does his weird hoppy thing that he does at 1 hp, blood squirts from his eyes and can get you a lot of health with the kapala if you have the means of dodging him. 150 hours i went without knowing that. Moles can drop pickaxes to reflect their digging, Jiang Shi Assasins can drop spring shoes to reflect their anti gravity powers, bone piles can drop bone keys, royal yetis cant get frozen since they have freezing breath. This game is so intricate it makes you wonder how they come up with all of it. Theres a giant secret questline that i didnt know existed beyond its first half with a thief girl and you can do a heist in the palace together later in the game. Its amazing.
@sweeniedickson8231 I think Spelunky HD does the secret areas and the level design better, but the game feels really unpolished and clunky compared to 2. I want to like Spelunky HD, but it's really hard to go back to a game so old when a newer version is out.
i recently found out that aliens can drop parachute, and they fall without one becouse they drop it for you, and even one time i got plasma cannon from present box in the shop. but i have 510 hrs of playtime and have never seen pickaxe from a mole, i didnt know that
Really resonate with this comment. Tied with another game, Spelunky 2 is my favorite game of all time, and I've been hooked on the series since Classic. It's surprising to me that despite Spelunky's massive influence on the roguelike genre, no other games have come close to delivering a similar experience. I just can't think of any game which represents the genre better. I've put an obscene amount of hours into this game, and I bet I could easily triple that and still be finding new things.
Temple, fittingly, becomes more viable and the clear choice as you become more skilled. The Alien Compass which you get from Van Horsing directs you to the exit in the Cosmic Ocean -- way more valuable than it might seem at first. The Elixir protects you from afflictions like Curse and Poison, and doubles your healing from all sources. The Scepter makes most levels (and a crime run) trivial; you lose it by going to the City of Gold, but nothing _forces_ you to go there. You can entirely skip the questline (chain) by skillfully maneuvering through the lasers at the top of 6-4 Tiamat's Throne, allowing you to keep the Ankh and Vlad's Cape, with the benefits from Temple. Et cetera... This game has a very high skill ceiling. I think Temple is a pretty excellent embodiment of that. But I do still wish Tide was cooler.
@@rhejdneb3605 99 of all materials is much less important if you have good game sense (and items), if you're diligent in grabbing all the crates you find you'll probably use less materials than you get.
Since each game gets another boss and ending, then that means we have to get past yet another final final area to get to a new and improved very final area of finality (unless you bring the eggplant hedjet crown olmec ultra amulet which lets you enter the ultra finalest area with ultimate arrow traps that one shot you and green frogs probably
This is a great video! Just a helpful tip with the skeletons. You can tell if a skull is going to come alive if the black of its eyes is slightly larger than usual. For example, if you pause at 5:42 you could see that the skull on the right has slightly larger eyes and therefore it was alive. Practically it doesn't make much sense to specifically go out of your way to look at a skull's eyes especially when you're dealing with a bunch of harder things at once, but in general, there's more black in an alive skull and the futures look more defined. You'll also get more and more used to identifying it now that you know there's a difference.
@@xian2themax The dev knows about the skips, and he intentionally keeps them in because they're a good way to express player skill. In fact, the whole reason he didn't just hard code in the different rewards you get from completing the quests, but rather expressed them with game mechanics was likely to encourage players to innovate, anyway.
24:45 it’s not a bug it’s a feature. When the game was first released Olmec was changed many times. Originally Olmec never stopped shooting bombs, so most people just waited on its head for it to blow up the whole level. Horrible pacing for the game, but it was the most optimal thing to do. Also, great vid btw.
Incredible. Everything you stated, from the frustration of BARELY messing up your movement and paying for it severely; to the hatred of dwelling, lizards, skeletons, and moles; to mastering the game and still making beginner-level mistakes; to getting angry and then it making you perform worse and get even more angry and perpetuating the cycle of anger until you ragequit; it's ALL true for me.
I already considered Spelunky HD to be the hardest game I've ever played, and I've played those games mentioned in the start of the video, so you can bet that I was surprised by how much harder the sequel is. Haven't finished it yet, got to Tiamat tho
I'm so glad to see someone making videos about this game, I feel like it was incredibly slept on because of the difficulty. This is the most rewarding game I've ever played, every frustration you mention in the video is so valid, but there are really concrete answers to all of them! Not always easy to find, and sometimes still really hard to execute once you know what to do. Figuring out strategies, secrets, and nuances to the game is just an endless source of fun for me. 500 hours in and years into the game's life I'm still learning new things. I've played other roguelikes, there's nothing like this
Not sure if you still read comments under this video, but there was an ending in Spelunky HD where you could kill King Yama with an eggplant, in one hit, but it is even more difficult than the eggplant ending in Spelunky 2, just wanted to let you know
I've not done the eggplant run in Spelunky HD, but I'd wager that it would actually be harder, simply because the Hired Hands required for both HD and 2 are much more dangerous in Spelunky HD. Not sure though, as like I said, I've only done the eggplant run in Spelunky 2.
What I love about the spelunky series is that it can feel like bullshit sometimes but it’s always your fault when you die, there’s always something you could have done to prevent that death. That level of mastery you get is like nothing else I’ve played. Spelunky hd and 2 are some of my favorite games ever.
Technically, but there is only so much you can pay attention to. Something is going to escape you eventually, and whether it kills you or not is just luck.
I personally found the jungle to be significantly harder than volcana, the enemies (especially the ******* witch doctors) are just brutal and you have so little space to work around them. At least in volcana you can generally work out a safe path through the level and avoid dying completely - I usually take a hit or two from the fire bugs or magma balls but very rarely die to the lava. This was a brilliant video, great in-depth analysis. I’ve done all the side quests and have a pb of 7-22 in the cosmic ocean. Currently about 300 hours in and still loving this game. And yes the eggplant run sucks just as much ass as you predicted it would here!
You get like half a second of invincibility when walking through doors or pipes so I don't think it's really that unfair to have enemies at the other side waiting for you since you can also just go back through the door when there is a lot of stuff attacking at once. Also I think Temple is definitely worth it. The Elixir you get from the Star Challenge is one of the most OP items in the game (protecting you from Poison or Curse and also doubling each HP that you gain) and the Alien Compass is really really good for Cosmic Ocean. And if you decide to skip Duat you can have the Scepter and enemies shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem anymore.
@@NOONE-bs5zh The Elixir effect would still stay and it is possible to get to Cosmic Ocean by skipping Duat and not sacrificing yourself in the Golden City.
No shot this dude just said the elixir was one of the most op items in the game bruv. I agree with you that you should go temple bc of the alien compass but you outta yo damn mind if you think that elixir beats out clone gun, or madame tusk… or a rock
The elixer is good, but the effect goes away as soon as you get cursed/poisened. Also, with Vlad's Cape, you probably can get max health soon anyways into the later game.
mostly agree about tidepool but the one thing i LOVE about it is the visuals, the colourpallet is just so pretty and light, in a landscape where all water levels in games go for the same dark blue designs, having this lush, colourful coral reef design is SUCH a breathe of fresh air
Weird that you're not a fan of tide pool, I've pretty much never seen someone dislike it. Its my personal favorite level in the game, I honestly like how it essentially reuses many features of the jungle from the first game, since that was my favorite level in that game. Edit: I've also never seen anybody critique the visuals of tide pool, that was the most shocking part of this video for me. I absolutely adore how this level looks, personally. I think its gorgeous
TH-cam just recommended this video to me. A retrospective on Spelunky? I'm in. Hopefully I wasn't the only one who got this recommended to and the TH-cam algorithmic gods are in your favor ! Subscribed.
I disagree with your critique of Tide Pool. I actually really enjoy the look of Tide Pool but I guess that is up to personal preference. But i find your critique of no new interesting enemies a bit flawed. Jang Shi are native to tide pool and they only show up in earlier levels for the unique level feelings but that doesn’t change that Tide Pool is their area. You also forgot to mention the giant samurai crab (which I forgot the name of) but that is almost like a mini boss and the octopy do charge like any other enemy but they also shoot ink which blinds you which is clearly unique. The hermits crabs hide in blocks and also are very useful for crates I just don’t get your criticism here? Otherwise the video is pretty good and an enjoyable watch
Ikr, his argument kind of felt half-assed when it came to Tide Pool. He says there are recycled enemies, but you can say that about most of the areas. The tiki men are basically cave men but with a shield and a boomerang, UFOs are like the robots from Volcana but they explode when touching the ground, and Vampires are bats but they can jump around and have more health. I know I'm kind of on a tangent, but his critique with Tude Pool was so flawed that it kind of makes me a little pissed lmao.
Currently watching the video, gonna put time stamps to interesting stuff I learnt by myself or just funfacts that can be nice to know ! (I have 500h in total in both games, and I'm still bad xD So I'm passing down some knowledge I've got by watching the community or by trial-and-error on my own). Nice video with a lot of tips, also, by the way ! 4:12 - Doing it when you have one jump like that at the end of a level and have spare time helps practicing it without the fear of the ghost getting to you. But getting it consistently takes a long time, I still can't do it. 7:04 - Learnt that by myself. Once you master the physics of throwing stuff, it's really REALLY useful ! Can save you ropes in a lot of situations, and when you're low on health without ropes, it can save you too. 8:40 - It's actually really funny, but someone despises the climbing gloves SO MUCH they actually found a quilinn skip with the web gun. Nobody will use it, probably, but it's still a quirky thing to know ! xD 9:15 - Notice how he talks about the ghost with the ''She'' pronoun ? For those who don't know, it's a fun lil easter egg that was there since spelunky hd (Not sure for classic, haven't played it) where you can get the camera item and snap a photo of the ghost. It'll slow her down and she will pose for the photo with accessories that are clearly feminine. In spelunky hd, the ghost will have accessories that are obviously feminine (You'll understand why, if you check it out) and in spelunky 2, it's more like a traditional oriental culture ghost pose. 13:00 - Yang is an honestly under-used strategy. I use it when it's not too hard to do so (When he's not behind some shopkeeper for example. LOL). Reason behind it is, if you help him, you get an animal shop in 2-1 or 2-2 (Don't remember by heart, but around those levels) where Yang sells you back all 3 turkeys and 1 pair of ropes. I mean, can never say no to health, and when you want to finish the game, you slowly start to understand how much ropes and bombs are REALLY valuable and a lot of the time mandatory. After that, if you're a pacifist and have extra money, you can buy all of his stuff, or you can also steal or kill him. Pretty useful trick I learnt that saved my runs a whole lot when I could do it. 13:56 - Just something I find cute ! It's nice you put that in the video ! ^^ 16:23 - You have a few frames of invisibility when coming out doors. Use it to jump or whip directly against the enemy who aren't invisible. You can also just go back into the door directly. 26:01 - If you want to get into Tusk's palace (Without causing a scene), you need to get every item in that dice house. There's more item in that shop than any normal dice house too ! 29:10 - Spelunky music in general is always good, but in my opinion, on that one, HD has my heart. But Spelunky 2 music is also really good ! 30:27 - Only compass that actually shows you the exit in the cosmic ocean area. But since you're in temple, you won't be able to go to CO with the Ankh, so it really depends on which helps you the most. Also shows you the alien ''Base'' where there is the plasma canon, some lore (Shopkeepers), and an unlockable character if you haven't gotten it yet. Or you can be like me and use the shortcut and kill yourself in the void endlessly until you actually MIRACULOUSLY find it xD 31:34 - There's skeleton walls placed in a recognizable pattern (Changes each time, but it's easy to recognize) where he flies. Takes some time to see it and recognize it. 37:10 - Honestly in my opinion one of the coolest looking place in the game. I still can't clear it consistently tho. A tip I can give, is PREPARE YOURSELF to get LOADS of bombs to bomb most of your way out. 39:22 - Just 4 words : Pain in the ass. I hate that part in its entirety. Cleared both endings, need the CO ending, and MAN I hate that part. It screws over my runs 99% of the time. So, seriously, prepare yourself for that pain xD 39:56 - Approved. REALLY cool looking place, one of my favorites too ! Even if it's also deadly. Places I actually find good looking (Not in any particular order) - Temple, Tide pools, Neo Babylon, Sunken city, and CO. And shoutout to spelunky HD ice caves, my favorite place in HD (With honestly in my opinion, the best soundtracks of HD) Also sorry if my english isn't the best, english isn't my mother language ! Anyway ! Hope these can help people out ! If anyone has any other tips or things to say, don't hesitate to add them below ! ^^
I actually beat the Cosmic Ocean about 3 months after writing this comment. I haven't really played Spelunky since then but I would love to get back into it
Spelunky and the sequel are in a rare category of their own. I am not good at them; never gotten more than the most basic ending in the original, but I always come back to it, and play more and more.
How come you didn't bring up the Lavamander in Volcana? They're kind of rare but an enemy that shoots lava at you is pretty damn dangerous, and unless you drain the lava out from under them they're invincible.
You can 100% react to every time you exit a door. The game gives you very generous s. As for scorpions don't throw pots right in front of yourself. I'm not saying Spelunky 2 is 100% fair but those two situations are very fair.
I think royal jelly being given after kappala is a good move. By that point you probably have a good number of the basic items it would give and bombs. You'd also probably have a good number of health but some sources chunk your health down by 10 and you can still get instakilled so it's not like your invincible even with 99 health
36:22 The game freeze you describe is easily fixed by exiting fullscreen (alt + enter) and re-entering it. But I get your frustration because it took me around 6 lost runs to figure that out
8:38 you can use the web gun as climbing gloves by spamming the shoot button while spamming j 24:30 this was a change made to prevent people from sitting on top of olmec and skipping phase 3, he drops three sets of bombs and this resets every time you break both purple things
I found this from the reddit post linking back to this video. I gotta say, this was a great watch! Sucks how it gets cucked by TH-cam algorithm like this. Wish you the best man, keep up the good work!
12:50 You can instead use the cape(and various other methods such as climbing gloves, the hoverpack, and turkeys) to descend slowly to the spikes, saving lots of resources, in case you didn't know. Happy Spelunking =)
I think the hardest games most people haven't heard of are: La mulana 1 La mulana 2 and World of Horror. A runner up is Diablo 2 Lod on hell. I want a la mulana 3. Also the upcoming dlc for Elden ring might be hard but I don't have a time machine nor is it June 21st yet.
Playing on a steam deck, I’m able to pause and return to my run with the deck’s suspend feature. It never occurred to me that this isn’t the case for many.
I love when crucial chunks of the level spawn on the top left corner, behind Tusk's casino and a shopkeeper's treasure, completely outside my view, making me search through the whole level, hitting 3 minutes, dying to the ghost, finding the door, and then realizing i have just 1 rope. I fucking hate spelunky 2, it's the only game i've played in the last 2 weeks
100% the hardest game I ever played.. and I absolutely love it. It’s a perfectly crafted game imo but you have to sink a LOT of time into it to get good. There are so many things to think about as you play, precise movements and whip attacks, where to place your items and where/when you can move, what clever exploit you can use to easily beat a boss or get past a level.. and the list goes on. This game is extremely difficult but imo that’s what makes it fun and addictive. The difficulty makes it so rewarding to leave a level with good equipment, lots of health, and lots of bombs.
26:27 how did you not die to the bear trap there??! Also awesome video, I started playing Spelunky 2 this year and it has quickly become one of my favorite games ever
I played it and loved how hard but naturally the game felt at throwing all this information but ultimately your death is based on how well you can control what to do next it took me hours to do but around 250 runs for me to “beat” the game i didn’t get to the cosmic Ocean (yet) so I’ve got work to do and my god the little tricks do play a lot into what you could do and what you now know you can do. For example whipping a dart trap to prevent an unbearable “unavoidable” hit and the climbing gloves stick to everything yes BUT whip to not stick 🤌 speed runners hold too much information that’s useful
This is a really good video! As a pretty experienced person in spelunky (reached the eggplant world and got to the 15th level of cosmic ocean) i want to add a couple advanced rounting stuff. In the first choince everyone goes volcana. Black market is just not worth losing vlads cape and also jungle is way more difficult, after you go volcana a bit its not hard honestly. In the tide pool and temple choice it depends. Tide pull has a big advantage, if you can affort to carry the clone gun to ice caves (which requires skipping quilin using a hard trick btw.) then in sunken city you can clone the sun challenge resources (you will get 96 ropes and bombs). Also tide pool is easier, you can easily skip ankh using some bombs and ropes, and you can gamble which gets you 5 items and 10 health in 6-3. But the temple has 2 huge benefits. The elixir which prevents Curse and poison and gives 8 hp (good!). And the alien compass, which works in cosmic ocean. Most people choose tide pool, but temple is a legit choice. EDIT: I rewatched the video and i want to say, killing quilback always worth using one bomb to insta kill him.
at first,i hated the horned lizard more than the mole but now? i can avoid horned lizard way more easily and heck,under the right regeration even use them for some profit by making a horned lizard trigger a shopkeeper next to bombs which kills him and allows me to steal the stuff that remained without being chased by angry shopkeepers
I’ve been playing elden ring, i beat cuphead in a single sitting, I’ve made it to the final two bosses in terraria calamity infernum and beaten deathmode twice, I’m missing around 60 steam achievements in tboi, and this is still the hardest game I have ever played. But while all the other games have made me mad at least once, this one hasn’t. Maybe it’s because the game is rigged against you, maybe it’s the fact that I know with progress I’ll get better, I have no idea, but I just haven’t gotten mad at this game for some reason. Gungeon, isaac, and dead cells all have unlocks, hades and cult of the lamb of permanent upgrades you can buy, but with spelunky, you just have to be good. You can get good items, but they’ll only carry you so far.
this morning i got a run to babylon and everything was going so perfectly well, i lost my ankh due to a mistake that was mostly my fault, then i lost the run entirely because on of the yellow orbs spawned in directly on a UFO which then shot down onto me at light speed and one shot me cool
yeah my only big problem in this game is the spike in difficulty at volcona dwelling is relativley easy, along with ice cave and tide pool, but litterally every single time i die in volcona its to a one hit kill... thats kind dumb for it being the second world which is followed by 2 easy ones (then babylon which i think is pretty well balanced [most of the time])
after more than 200 hours in spelunky hd, hoping into spelunky 2 felt like the SAME when i started spelunky hd, after 5 hours i could not surpass the first biome, just like old times, this games are fantastic and frustating
I agree that 2 is harder then 1 but i actually think that its more forgiving just because of turkeys. the ability to get more health out of the opening is a huge difference
I dont personally see how you could place this above SMB in difficulty as getting 106% in that destroyed me but I cant disagree, both main Spelunky games are incredibly difficult!
This is a great video but unfortunately you said tide pool is a bad area and looks bad so I have no choice but to send an airstrike to your location. 👍
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If you shoot a web with the web gun you can jump while in the web to get to a little bit extra height so you can get to some places you can't usually get to you but it's still trash
spelunky hd came out in 2012, spelunky classic came out in 2008
You are probably the only person i heard saying that tidepool is ugly, nearly everyone I hear says that it is by far the best looking zone in the game
I definitely wouldn't say it's ugly but the theme just feels very striking and out of place. I love the red and blue tiles but it doesn't feel as coherent as other zones
Tbh all the enemies from tide pool suck
Cosmic Ocean is my favorite
It's ugly
I think it's really fitting lore wise, with the Chinese mythology being added with Hou Yi, Hundun and Chang'e, and even the stuff from Spelunky HD like the Yama and the Jiang Shi.
It is kind of whiplash compared to the rest of the game, but still my favorite area by far
This was an amazing video. There's not really much content on TH-cam for Spelunky 2, so I was happy someone made something as in-depth as this.
Twiggle maxed out the game so hard he died.
This is my most played game (besides minecraft but idk how many hours i have)
I cant help myself but see parts of this video and just think to myself "Wow he didnt know this?" "Why would he do that when he couldve done this?"
I could talk about this game for hours. Its actually a masterpiece of game design and i still learn something everytime i play it. If a horned lizard eats a dung beetle and gets to one health, whenever he does his weird hoppy thing that he does at 1 hp, blood squirts from his eyes and can get you a lot of health with the kapala if you have the means of dodging him. 150 hours i went without knowing that.
Moles can drop pickaxes to reflect their digging, Jiang Shi Assasins can drop spring shoes to reflect their anti gravity powers, bone piles can drop bone keys, royal yetis cant get frozen since they have freezing breath.
This game is so intricate it makes you wonder how they come up with all of it. Theres a giant secret questline that i didnt know existed beyond its first half with a thief girl and you can do a heist in the palace together later in the game. Its amazing.
moles can drop pickaxes?? those tide pool dudes can drop spring shoes??? how and when? i had no idea
spelunky HD better
@sweeniedickson8231 I think Spelunky HD does the secret areas and the level design better, but the game feels really unpolished and clunky compared to 2. I want to like Spelunky HD, but it's really hard to go back to a game so old when a newer version is out.
i recently found out that aliens can drop parachute, and they fall without one becouse they drop it for you, and even one time i got plasma cannon from present box in the shop. but i have 510 hrs of playtime and have never seen pickaxe from a mole, i didnt know that
Really resonate with this comment. Tied with another game, Spelunky 2 is my favorite game of all time, and I've been hooked on the series since Classic. It's surprising to me that despite Spelunky's massive influence on the roguelike genre, no other games have come close to delivering a similar experience. I just can't think of any game which represents the genre better. I've put an obscene amount of hours into this game, and I bet I could easily triple that and still be finding new things.
Temple, fittingly, becomes more viable and the clear choice as you become more skilled. The Alien Compass which you get from Van Horsing directs you to the exit in the Cosmic Ocean -- way more valuable than it might seem at first. The Elixir protects you from afflictions like Curse and Poison, and doubles your healing from all sources. The Scepter makes most levels (and a crime run) trivial; you lose it by going to the City of Gold, but nothing _forces_ you to go there. You can entirely skip the questline (chain) by skillfully maneuvering through the lasers at the top of 6-4 Tiamat's Throne, allowing you to keep the Ankh and Vlad's Cape, with the benefits from Temple. Et cetera...
This game has a very high skill ceiling. I think Temple is a pretty excellent embodiment of that. But I do still wish Tide was cooler.
Do you not value getting the clone gun to sunken City very highly?
@@rhejdneb3605 99 of all materials is much less important if you have good game sense (and items), if you're diligent in grabbing all the crates you find you'll probably use less materials than you get.
@@rhejdneb3605 the only run i've almost ran out of resources was a no-kapala 7-99.
I think tide pool overall gives the better path. You can keep your ankh with the chain, and bringing the clone gun to get 99 bombs and ropes,
@@megaedge2762i mean you should really just be skipping the qilin chain and use the various skips to get to sunken
Spelunky 3 gonna be like:
*In order to reach the secret ending, learn ancient Hebrew and solve this riddle:*
Since each game gets another boss and ending, then that means we have to get past yet another final final area to get to a new and improved very final area of finality (unless you bring the eggplant hedjet crown olmec ultra amulet which lets you enter the ultra finalest area with ultimate arrow traps that one shot you and green frogs probably
@@cambac-pro or you can bring the golden key and feed it to the Jelly in 7-98 to unlock the final area: 1000 levels of Neo Babylon
Noita players: ''Oh that's it? Thank god, finally an easier puzzle than normal!''
בשביל להביס את הבוס למדתי לדבר עיברית וחזרתי אחורה בזמן כי זה מה שאתה מקבל שאתה מביס את הסוף הסודי
@@lumzyhereGenuinely Neo-Bab is my favorite area with just how crowded and busy and purple it is :3
This is a great video! Just a helpful tip with the skeletons. You can tell if a skull is going to come alive if the black of its eyes is slightly larger than usual. For example, if you pause at 5:42 you could see that the skull on the right has slightly larger eyes and therefore it was alive. Practically it doesn't make much sense to specifically go out of your way to look at a skull's eyes especially when you're dealing with a bunch of harder things at once, but in general, there's more black in an alive skull and the futures look more defined. You'll also get more and more used to identifying it now that you know there's a difference.
I can get to the cosmic ocean most runs and have 100% the game twice but I never knew this 🤣
Watching him stand there and do nothing at the 4-3 idol when he had paste and 22 ropes caused me immense pain
Hey man not everyone knows Ankh skips
The ankh skip is cheating, its not how you're supposed to beat the game
@@xian2themaxit’s not cheating
@@xian2themaxthe dev likes skips
@@xian2themax The dev knows about the skips, and he intentionally keeps them in because they're a good way to express player skill. In fact, the whole reason he didn't just hard code in the different rewards you get from completing the quests, but rather expressed them with game mechanics was likely to encourage players to innovate, anyway.
24:45 it’s not a bug it’s a feature. When the game was first released Olmec was changed many times. Originally Olmec never stopped shooting bombs, so most people just waited on its head for it to blow up the whole level. Horrible pacing for the game, but it was the most optimal thing to do. Also, great vid btw.
Incredible. Everything you stated, from the frustration of BARELY messing up your movement and paying for it severely; to the hatred of dwelling, lizards, skeletons, and moles; to mastering the game and still making beginner-level mistakes; to getting angry and then it making you perform worse and get even more angry and perpetuating the cycle of anger until you ragequit; it's ALL true for me.
fun fact yang makes the turkey spawn rate go up so after you help him and he increases the spawn rate rost all turkeys.
I already considered Spelunky HD to be the hardest game I've ever played, and I've played those games mentioned in the start of the video, so you can bet that I was surprised by how much harder the sequel is. Haven't finished it yet, got to Tiamat tho
I'm so glad to see someone making videos about this game, I feel like it was incredibly slept on because of the difficulty. This is the most rewarding game I've ever played, every frustration you mention in the video is so valid, but there are really concrete answers to all of them! Not always easy to find, and sometimes still really hard to execute once you know what to do. Figuring out strategies, secrets, and nuances to the game is just an endless source of fun for me. 500 hours in and years into the game's life I'm still learning new things. I've played other roguelikes, there's nothing like this
26:28 did you just pick up that nugget of gold without triggering the trap? Thats some serious Spelunky 2 skill
100% planned s
Not sure if you still read comments under this video, but there was an ending in Spelunky HD where you could kill King Yama with an eggplant, in one hit, but it is even more difficult than the eggplant ending in Spelunky 2, just wanted to let you know
I've not done the eggplant run in Spelunky HD, but I'd wager that it would actually be harder, simply because the Hired Hands required for both HD and 2 are much more dangerous in Spelunky HD. Not sure though, as like I said, I've only done the eggplant run in Spelunky 2.
What I love about the spelunky series is that it can feel like bullshit sometimes but it’s always your fault when you die, there’s always something you could have done to prevent that death. That level of mastery you get is like nothing else I’ve played. Spelunky hd and 2 are some of my favorite games ever.
Idk how a UFO sniping another ufo which blows me up while i wait to get into the ankh room is my fault
@@pachicoredo the Olmec skip
Technically, but there is only so much you can pay attention to.
Something is going to escape you eventually, and whether it kills you or not is just luck.
I personally found the jungle to be significantly harder than volcana, the enemies (especially the ******* witch doctors) are just brutal and you have so little space to work around them. At least in volcana you can generally work out a safe path through the level and avoid dying completely - I usually take a hit or two from the fire bugs or magma balls but very rarely die to the lava.
This was a brilliant video, great in-depth analysis. I’ve done all the side quests and have a pb of 7-22 in the cosmic ocean. Currently about 300 hours in and still loving this game. And yes the eggplant run sucks just as much ass as you predicted it would here!
You get like half a second of invincibility when walking through doors or pipes so I don't think it's really that unfair to have enemies at the other side waiting for you since you can also just go back through the door when there is a lot of stuff attacking at once.
Also I think Temple is definitely worth it. The Elixir you get from the Star Challenge is one of the most OP items in the game (protecting you from Poison or Curse and also doubling each HP that you gain) and the Alien Compass is really really good for Cosmic Ocean. And if you decide to skip Duat you can have the Scepter and enemies shouldn't be nearly as much of a problem anymore.
right before you sacrifice yourself in golden city
@@NOONE-bs5zh The Elixir effect would still stay and it is possible to get to Cosmic Ocean by skipping Duat and not sacrificing yourself in the Golden City.
Facts right here, tho i wouldn't recommend it to *"new"* players
No shot this dude just said the elixir was one of the most op items in the game bruv. I agree with you that you should go temple bc of the alien compass but you outta yo damn mind if you think that elixir beats out clone gun, or madame tusk… or a rock
The elixer is good, but the effect goes away as soon as you get cursed/poisened. Also, with Vlad's Cape, you probably can get max health soon anyways into the later game.
mostly agree about tidepool but the one thing i LOVE about it is the visuals, the colourpallet is just so pretty and light, in a landscape where all water levels in games go for the same dark blue designs, having this lush, colourful coral reef design is SUCH a breathe of fresh air
Weird that you're not a fan of tide pool, I've pretty much never seen someone dislike it. Its my personal favorite level in the game, I honestly like how it essentially reuses many features of the jungle from the first game, since that was my favorite level in that game.
Edit: I've also never seen anybody critique the visuals of tide pool, that was the most shocking part of this video for me. I absolutely adore how this level looks, personally. I think its gorgeous
Keep it up dude! I only saw you a couple days ago but I've already gotten so much enjoyment out of your videos!
So I was basically carrying the whole team in an online Spelunky 2 match
I drop my shotgun to open a chest
A hired hand grabs it and kills me...
TH-cam just recommended this video to me. A retrospective on Spelunky? I'm in.
Hopefully I wasn't the only one who got this recommended to and the TH-cam algorithmic gods are in your favor ! Subscribed.
I disagree with your critique of Tide Pool. I actually really enjoy the look of Tide Pool but I guess that is up to personal preference. But i find your critique of no new interesting enemies a bit flawed. Jang Shi are native to tide pool and they only show up in earlier levels for the unique level feelings but that doesn’t change that Tide Pool is their area. You also forgot to mention the giant samurai crab (which I forgot the name of) but that is almost like a mini boss and the octopy do charge like any other enemy but they also shoot ink which blinds you which is clearly unique. The hermits crabs hide in blocks and also are very useful for crates I just don’t get your criticism here? Otherwise the video is pretty good and an enjoyable watch
I agree, Tide Pool is definitely one of my favorite areas in the game
Ikr, his argument kind of felt half-assed when it came to Tide Pool. He says there are recycled enemies, but you can say that about most of the areas. The tiki men are basically cave men but with a shield and a boomerang, UFOs are like the robots from Volcana but they explode when touching the ground, and Vampires are bats but they can jump around and have more health. I know I'm kind of on a tangent, but his critique with Tude Pool was so flawed that it kind of makes me a little pissed lmao.
I'm probably not the first person to mention this but you can change how long text boxes last for and their opacity in the settings
Temple route got buffed giving guaranteed Jetpack and the challenge potion also got a special buff.
Currently watching the video, gonna put time stamps to interesting stuff I learnt by myself or just funfacts that can be nice to know ! (I have 500h in total in both games, and I'm still bad xD So I'm passing down some knowledge I've got by watching the community or by trial-and-error on my own). Nice video with a lot of tips, also, by the way !
4:12 - Doing it when you have one jump like that at the end of a level and have spare time helps practicing it without the fear of the ghost getting to you. But getting it consistently takes a long time, I still can't do it.
7:04 - Learnt that by myself. Once you master the physics of throwing stuff, it's really REALLY useful ! Can save you ropes in a lot of situations, and when you're low on health without ropes, it can save you too.
8:40 - It's actually really funny, but someone despises the climbing gloves SO MUCH they actually found a quilinn skip with the web gun. Nobody will use it, probably, but it's still a quirky thing to know ! xD
9:15 - Notice how he talks about the ghost with the ''She'' pronoun ? For those who don't know, it's a fun lil easter egg that was there since spelunky hd (Not sure for classic, haven't played it) where you can get the camera item and snap a photo of the ghost. It'll slow her down and she will pose for the photo with accessories that are clearly feminine. In spelunky hd, the ghost will have accessories that are obviously feminine (You'll understand why, if you check it out) and in spelunky 2, it's more like a traditional oriental culture ghost pose.
13:00 - Yang is an honestly under-used strategy. I use it when it's not too hard to do so (When he's not behind some shopkeeper for example. LOL). Reason behind it is, if you help him, you get an animal shop in 2-1 or 2-2 (Don't remember by heart, but around those levels) where Yang sells you back all 3 turkeys and 1 pair of ropes. I mean, can never say no to health, and when you want to finish the game, you slowly start to understand how much ropes and bombs are REALLY valuable and a lot of the time mandatory. After that, if you're a pacifist and have extra money, you can buy all of his stuff, or you can also steal or kill him. Pretty useful trick I learnt that saved my runs a whole lot when I could do it.
13:56 - Just something I find cute ! It's nice you put that in the video ! ^^
16:23 - You have a few frames of invisibility when coming out doors. Use it to jump or whip directly against the enemy who aren't invisible. You can also just go back into the door directly.
26:01 - If you want to get into Tusk's palace (Without causing a scene), you need to get every item in that dice house. There's more item in that shop than any normal dice house too !
29:10 - Spelunky music in general is always good, but in my opinion, on that one, HD has my heart. But Spelunky 2 music is also really good !
30:27 - Only compass that actually shows you the exit in the cosmic ocean area. But since you're in temple, you won't be able to go to CO with the Ankh, so it really depends on which helps you the most. Also shows you the alien ''Base'' where there is the plasma canon, some lore (Shopkeepers), and an unlockable character if you haven't gotten it yet. Or you can be like me and use the shortcut and kill yourself in the void endlessly until you actually MIRACULOUSLY find it xD
31:34 - There's skeleton walls placed in a recognizable pattern (Changes each time, but it's easy to recognize) where he flies. Takes some time to see it and recognize it.
37:10 - Honestly in my opinion one of the coolest looking place in the game. I still can't clear it consistently tho. A tip I can give, is PREPARE YOURSELF to get LOADS of bombs to bomb most of your way out.
39:22 - Just 4 words : Pain in the ass. I hate that part in its entirety. Cleared both endings, need the CO ending, and MAN I hate that part. It screws over my runs 99% of the time. So, seriously, prepare yourself for that pain xD
39:56 - Approved. REALLY cool looking place, one of my favorites too ! Even if it's also deadly.
Places I actually find good looking (Not in any particular order) - Temple, Tide pools, Neo Babylon, Sunken city, and CO. And shoutout to spelunky HD ice caves, my favorite place in HD (With honestly in my opinion, the best soundtracks of HD)
Also sorry if my english isn't the best, english isn't my mother language !
Anyway ! Hope these can help people out !
If anyone has any other tips or things to say, don't hesitate to add them below ! ^^
You deserve so much more recognition.
26:48 I have seen 10 too many ways of how you can survive that
18:02 Tip I found out by accident on those annoying mosquitos: you can duck and they will pass over you, leaving you unharmed!
I'm closing in on 400 hours in Spelunky 2 and I'm (still) trying to beat the Cosmic Ocean. Great video btw, keep up the good work!
I actually beat the Cosmic Ocean about 3 months after writing this comment. I haven't really played Spelunky since then but I would love to get back into it
I have many hours in this game but I didn't know you can whip enemies diagonally from one block lower.
Spelunky and the sequel are in a rare category of their own. I am not good at them; never gotten more than the most basic ending in the original, but I always come back to it, and play more and more.
The thru the walls reference is so out of nowhere and spot on. I bet the spelunkt and death grips fan base have decent crossover
How come you didn't bring up the Lavamander in Volcana? They're kind of rare but an enemy that shoots lava at you is pretty damn dangerous, and unless you drain the lava out from under them they're invincible.
at 35:50, i think you didn't hit the coffin, you hit the corspe of the helping hand
You can 100% react to every time you exit a door. The game gives you very generous s.
As for scorpions don't throw pots right in front of yourself. I'm not saying Spelunky 2 is 100% fair but those two situations are very fair.
yes, 100%
Not always in cosmic ocean, the rules about not having traps immediately next to entrances aren’t in place anymore
@@bp-lx7lf cosmic ocean in general is pretty unfair compared to the main game
I think royal jelly being given after kappala is a good move. By that point you probably have a good number of the basic items it would give and bombs. You'd also probably have a good number of health but some sources chunk your health down by 10 and you can still get instakilled so it's not like your invincible even with 99 health
36:22 The game freeze you describe is easily fixed by exiting fullscreen (alt + enter) and re-entering it. But I get your frustration because it took me around 6 lost runs to figure that out
Or.. you can run the game in Borderless full screen which makes your alt tabbing instant/smoother and game never crashes.
criminally underrated channel
8:38 you can use the web gun as climbing gloves by spamming the shoot button while spamming j
24:30 this was a change made to prevent people from sitting on top of olmec and skipping phase 3, he drops three sets of bombs and this resets every time you break both purple things
I found this from the reddit post linking back to this video. I gotta say, this was a great watch! Sucks how it gets cucked by TH-cam algorithm like this. Wish you the best man, keep up the good work!
12:50 You can instead use the cape(and various other methods such as climbing gloves, the hoverpack, and turkeys) to descend slowly to the spikes, saving lots of resources, in case you didn't know. Happy Spelunking =)
loved the cruelty squad sound effect at 13:57 lol. would love it if you did a cruelty squad analysis!
this game is so underrated
Lovely video mate, really well done
I have used the web gun as makeshift climbing gloves once to climb up a floor.
26:20 tide pool jump scare
I think the hardest games most people haven't heard of are:
La mulana 1
La mulana 2
and World of Horror. A runner up is Diablo 2 Lod on hell. I want a la mulana 3. Also the upcoming dlc for Elden ring might be hard but I don't have a time machine nor is it June 21st yet.
Beating this games is easier than finishing 116 consequent randomized levels.
Playing on a steam deck, I’m able to pause and return to my run with the deck’s suspend feature. It never occurred to me that this isn’t the case for many.
Fantastic analysis. Keep up the great work.
Love your reviews, keep up good work
I love when crucial chunks of the level spawn on the top left corner, behind Tusk's casino and a shopkeeper's treasure, completely outside my view, making me search through the whole level, hitting 3 minutes, dying to the ghost, finding the door, and then realizing i have just 1 rope.
I fucking hate spelunky 2, it's the only game i've played in the last 2 weeks
No chance theres people in these comments trying to say that every death in this game is fair and preventable 😂
Bro that jetpack at 22:33 🥲
100% the hardest game I ever played.. and I absolutely love it. It’s a perfectly crafted game imo but you have to sink a LOT of time into it to get good. There are so many things to think about as you play, precise movements and whip attacks, where to place your items and where/when you can move, what clever exploit you can use to easily beat a boss or get past a level.. and the list goes on. This game is extremely difficult but imo that’s what makes it fun and addictive. The difficulty makes it so rewarding to leave a level with good equipment, lots of health, and lots of bombs.
26:27 how did you not die to the bear trap there??! Also awesome video, I started playing Spelunky 2 this year and it has quickly become one of my favorite games ever
Pretty late response but if you look closely you can see they used their cape and floated barely above it.
The death grips then swans Really threw me for a looop
I played it and loved how hard but naturally the game felt at throwing all this information but ultimately your death is based on how well you can control what to do next it took me hours to do but around 250 runs for me to “beat” the game i didn’t get to the cosmic Ocean (yet) so I’ve got work to do and my god the little tricks do play a lot into what you could do and what you now know you can do. For example whipping a dart trap to prevent an unbearable “unavoidable” hit and the climbing gloves stick to everything yes BUT whip to not stick 🤌 speed runners hold too much information that’s useful
“Fuck the moles” I agree moles, bats, and the lizards all in the dwelling makes it the hardest level in my opinion
This is a really good video! As a pretty experienced person in spelunky (reached the eggplant world and got to the 15th level of cosmic ocean) i want to add a couple advanced rounting stuff.
In the first choince everyone goes volcana. Black market is just not worth losing vlads cape and also jungle is way more difficult, after you go volcana a bit its not hard honestly.
In the tide pool and temple choice it depends. Tide pull has a big advantage, if you can affort to carry the clone gun to ice caves (which requires skipping quilin using a hard trick btw.) then in sunken city you can clone the sun challenge resources (you will get 96 ropes and bombs). Also tide pool is easier, you can easily skip ankh using some bombs and ropes, and you can gamble which gets you 5 items and 10 health in 6-3.
But the temple has 2 huge benefits. The elixir which prevents Curse and poison and gives 8 hp (good!). And the alien compass, which works in cosmic ocean.
Most people choose tide pool, but temple is a legit choice.
EDIT: I rewatched the video and i want to say, killing quilback always worth using one bomb to insta kill him.
35:49 that wasn't the coffin, you shot the body
The regular compass doesn’t work in cosmic ocean so you need the Alien compass for that
35:50 it wasn’t the coffin it was the hired helps corpse
at first,i hated the horned lizard more than the mole but now?
i can avoid horned lizard way more easily and heck,under the right regeration even use them for some profit by making a horned lizard trigger a shopkeeper next to bombs which kills him and allows me to steal the stuff that remained without being chased by angry shopkeepers
I wish the area with ankh skip was the harder area, it’s so sad that the only real thing temple offers over tide is alien compass
I finished it but its a very challenge, keep it up dude you can win!
And after many updates, there's finally an actual reason to go Temple (tho Tide Pool still has better loot imo)
One other “ending” you have is to get the true crown
i absolutely love spelunky two, but to this day its still the only game ive ever broken a controller on due to how damn frustrating it is
I’ve been playing elden ring, i beat cuphead in a single sitting, I’ve made it to the final two bosses in terraria calamity infernum and beaten deathmode twice, I’m missing around 60 steam achievements in tboi, and this is still the hardest game I have ever played. But while all the other games have made me mad at least once, this one hasn’t. Maybe it’s because the game is rigged against you, maybe it’s the fact that I know with progress I’ll get better, I have no idea, but I just haven’t gotten mad at this game for some reason.
Gungeon, isaac, and dead cells all have unlocks, hades and cult of the lamb of permanent upgrades you can buy, but with spelunky, you just have to be good. You can get good items, but they’ll only carry you so far.
High on Dark Souls fumes, I was introduced to Ikaruga and that's still the hardest game I've ever played
this morning i got a run to babylon and everything was going so perfectly well, i lost my ankh due to a mistake that was mostly my fault, then i lost the run entirely because on of the yellow orbs spawned in directly on a UFO which then shot down onto me at light speed and one shot me
cool
You can change how long text boxes stay on screen in the options menu btw.
22:29 Wang and Udjat never spawn in the same level ;)
Web Gun is like a weaker version of Paste and climbing gloves, with slightly more use cases.
yeah my only big problem in this game is the spike in difficulty at volcona
dwelling is relativley easy, along with ice cave and tide pool, but litterally every single time i die in volcona its to a one hit kill... thats kind dumb for it being the second world which is followed by 2 easy ones (then babylon which i think is pretty well balanced [most of the time])
I beat the game and I’m an old man.
Real.
You deserve way more subs
The skeleton enemies have a slightly larger eye socket making them easy to differentiate
after more than 200 hours in spelunky hd, hoping into spelunky 2 felt like the SAME when i started spelunky hd, after 5 hours i could not surpass the first biome, just like old times, this games are fantastic and frustating
this is 45 minutes of pure entertainment
I agree that 2 is harder then 1 but i actually think that its more forgiving just because of turkeys. the ability to get more health out of the opening is a huge difference
awesome video!
I dont personally see how you could place this above SMB in difficulty as getting 106% in that destroyed me but I cant disagree, both main Spelunky games are incredibly difficult!
ngl spider gun can save you from fall damage
compared to the other guns expect for the clone gun sometimes can kill you the only for the fact that the clone gun can clone enemies to kill you.
plus the clone gun will break over time
really good video!
33:30 you get a guaranteed jetpack thats why I prefer this route when i have no Jetpack :)
It took me almost 90 hours to beat Tiamat without shortcuts. The run was less than 20 minutes.
With the web gun you can jump in the webs you can make so you can scale up a wall with the web gun
Nice video!
3:13 I also hate the first place in all the spelunkies the most
8:00 you can actually edit the speech boxes in the HUD settings
Loved this video especially I have over 500 hours in the game and it’s so fun to just think, wow I could have done that better
This is a great video but unfortunately you said tide pool is a bad area and looks bad so I have no choice but to send an airstrike to your location. 👍
Skeletons and schools used to different Sprites you can tell them apart
2:08 HMMM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT LINE...
Late comment, but love this video. Spelunky 2 is the best roguelike ever made.
You have good music taste hahaha
Spelunky 2 is a torture device with a touch of gamplay(good)