2023 Honda MSX125 Grom - First Ride Review
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- 2023 Honda MSX125 Grom - First Ride Review: In the final of my Honda mini bike reviews I get to ride the mighty Grom, what do I make of it? Stay tuned to find out!
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Great review ! I’ve had mine for just over a year now and every mile produces a smile !! 😃
Nice review Andy. Thanks for the last bit of information at the end too. It really was a nice day for a ride and great location for the walk around.
Thanks for watching until the end!
Nice review as usual TMF. Probably the best of the mini bikes & definitely my favourite.
Absolutely loving all these mini Honda reviews, thank you for doing them!!
I’d defo recommend trying the super cub 125, bit of a wild card , but with bigger wheels they handle like a dream, loads of fun
Another great review... this is why I watch your channel. Appreciate that you bring the same level of professionalism to every episode. My garage looks a lot like yours, and I normally wouldn't have interest in these mini-bikes, but after hearing the enthusiasm you genuinely have for these bikes, now I'm thinking I might be able to squeeze in a Grom or maybe the Monkey bike :). Thank you for what you do.
My pleasure!
Looks an absolute hoot ,I find these small capacity bikes with the cub type engines always put a smile on my face . You cannot feel miserable riding one ,it doesn’t matter if you look ridiculous as no body knows who you are with a full face helmet on anyway 👍.
Well that’s it exactly - a happiness machine!
No body knows who you are. Just be happy 🎉
And you have to ride wide open throttle to keep up with traffic.
@@whollymindless One of my bikes is a 2004 Honda Innova 125 cc 9 •3 hp ,4 speed auto clutch step thru . It will keep up with most traffic on normal roads with out using full throttle . some lighter riders have seen 70 mph on clock in favourable conditions . These type of bikes are not about speed ,or motorway riding , they are cheap & cheerful fun runabouts & bimbler’s & will cruise at 50 to 55 mph on less than full open throttle & take you anywhere ,& places no large adventure bike ,could hope to get or fit into .
Nice to seeing you warming to the delights of the Mini bikes as you've progressed through them Andy, I had guessed the Grom would be your favourite, as to the small wheels that is the best part and what sets them apart from other motorcycles, the lively nature that brings is where the joy comes from, in much the same way a classic Mini drives compared to modern cars.
Yes maybe you’re right - I love a traditional mini too!
Grom looks the best of the 3 little bikes another great vid Andy keep up the great vids
A great review as usual. I restored a 125 for my son's partner and rediscovered that you don't need a big bike to enjoy motorcycling, they are a lot of fun. These bikes prove this
Agreed!
Great stuff Andy ! Don’t forget the C125 Super Cub to complete the Honda mini bike review set.😉👍
Really liked this one, chilled bike and, more importantly, some sunshine and blue skies!
Brilliant Andy,the Grom is definitely the one I would have out of the three you’ve tested.
Great video. Saw one of these at a Honda dealer a couple of weeks ago and it just drew me to it. ( Got to discuss with the wife). Love it if you could an "old bike" video on a ZZR1100.
Great review on the 'fun loving' Grom, in the colour scheme I would pick.
perfect bike for us older guys!
i bought this bike 4 month ago, pimped it a little bit. so much fun riding in town. have same color as yours.
Cool!
Great first ride review. Speaking your mind, you said right away that it's your favorite of Honda's Mini lineup. I have ridden the other Hondas, plus the Cub, but never the Grom. I look forward to your summation video and comparison insights.
Thank you for watching - coming soon!
I see what you mean about a new bike - the knobbly bits were still on the tyres as well as the multi-coloured paint rings. And yet again you have also shown us that you don’t need buckets of money or mahoosive amounts of power to have fun. Great stuff.
Thanks for watching and stopping by once again Trevor, always good to hear from you…
Great review, I knew you would like that one. :)
Just did my 6th CBT on one of these. At first I was like omg what is this a joke. Out on the road the light weight about 100kg is definitely noticeable, like not carrying a 25 liter water container around permanently. I was actually very impressed with it. Has abs on the front too. If space was a concern then this would be ideal, like a 50cc scooter size motorcycle. 😎👍
Great review, thank you sir. I was tossing up between Honda's CB125F or the Grom for my commute to work, and after seeing this I'm opting for the Grom. I'll hopefully pass my test next week :D
Best of luck!
It annoys me when manufacturers don't make use of the allowed 15hp for 125s in the uk
Makes a big difference at these levels - mine is 14.7 and it accelerates with most cars fine.
It would be difficult to make an air cooled fuel efficient 125 that meets euro 5 produce 15 bhp. All the 125’s that come near the 15bhp limit are water cooled. This would take away from the simplicity of design of these mini bikes. There are water cooled 125’s that are over 14bhp if you wanted one and they tend to cost about a grand more. These bikes are not designed just for the U.K. market, as the U.K. market is tiny.
Morning Andy, loved the last review of the mini bike series. A case of here today, Grom tomorrow!
I know the Grom has a huge cult following and would make a great little fun bike as would the Dax and Monkey, as you say they are bikes you can have fun on without going silly speeds, though living in Wales where our government is about to impose the 20mph built up speed limit on us without consultation they are capable of silly speeds😳
Anyway, ride safe.
Well an air cooled 125 will never make 15hp lol
I believe in the EU they need to be a bit weaker. Sorry about that.
Thanks, nice job! These bikes seem to have a cult following. There are tons of aftermarket bits and pieces available for these little guys as well.
Got the exact same one with a black widow exhaust .Great little bike handles like a Bmx through traffic .
Me too!! It’s still at the dealer. Hope to pick it up by this weekend. Same colour too. Can’t wait.
I had a grom and loved it to the tune of £2000 worth of custom bits that made it go 2mph faster😂. WARNING these things can eat cash😂 Great fun though, you will laugh out loud on one😎
All agreed. Great motorcycle for its intended use. In the mountains of my home all smiles. There are some rear racks available for small carry along and tank bag. Not a big touring rig but if one wanted to go moto camping. that option is available
I cannot believe they’re nearly 10 years old lol. I started riding 8 years ago and these were the bikes used in the school I learnt at. I can’t say the on road section of the training inspired me to get a 125 for my first bike as my school was on a 100km road so that first experience sticking to the side at 78kmh getting passed by traffic going 110 wasn’t exactly confidence inspiring!
But I do remember them being a lot of fun on the closed course sections of the training!
I'd love to have one of these 125s for poking around town. If only I had space for storage.
Great first look, as ever.
As the proud and giddy owner of both a Monkey and Grom, I’m surprised you didn’t prefer the retro-styling of the scrambler-esk Monkey. Ya think ya know a guy. Sheesh. 😆 My son prefers the looks of the Grom too. Grom vs Monkey. Sounds like a social experiment in the making. LOL.
Had the opportunity to purchase the CT125 aka The Cub. Love the looks and quality build, but instantly disliked the seat, seating position, and heel-toe shifter. Ultimately, it’s about mini-Moto world domination. A little bike for anyone and everyone. Honda wins!
A bit of trivia: in the parlance of surfers, snowboarders and skateboarders a "Grom" is a youth (usually under the age of 15) that is an enthusiast of surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, etc. which may explain Honda's naming strategy. As an adult, I'd rock a Honda Grom.
Could well do! Interesting….
Great Video as usual. I did consider one of these ,as you rightly pointed out ideal for the motorhome. However i decided that me and the Mrs looked a bit silly together on it.
Btw, RAF Wycombe ( strategic command now) was Bomber Command in WW2, Bomber Harris used to lodge at West Wycombe house and drive his Bently up to Bomber Command in under 10 minutes (i read). He used to try and beat his record occasionally. Then it became Strike Command, i like you, live not far from it and it will be a target for any WW3. Hopefully i will be vapourised immediatley and know nothing about it.
I own the Benelli Tornado 125 converted to a mini scrambler, which just makes me laugh when I ride it. I genuinely love these mini bikes and I am teaching my wife to ride on it. Unfortunately I wish I had bought the Honda Grom because of the quality of the dealers, and I would recommend anyone looking at these bikes to buy the Grom. Its worth the difference.
Its not just the dealers, the Chinese build quality is leagues behind too.
Great review thanks Andy would be my choice out of the Honda 125 would improve my riding skills. Don’t know how these smalls wheels handle but I am sure you get use to them.
Knew that looked familiar. My Dad was attached to NATO there when I was a kid.
Love the review as well.
That colour scheme really suits the Grom, and I like that there's a proper dash on this 125. Honda are knocking it out of the park with their selection of 125cc fun bikes. Surely it's only a matter of time before we see the CT125 on our shores.
Honda ! Europe needs the CT125 !!!
I’d be first in line, cash in hand...
“Who doesn’t like a Honda Grom?” It was you two years ago😂 I’m soo glad you’ve taken the plunge, ridden one and seen how fun they are. There are fewer things more enjoyable than you and a bunch of mates all out on Groms #gromsquad!
Funny that they still have the same signal lamps that was on my 2014 Grom.
I was going to buy a CT125 but the Grom makes more sense. Lighter, shift indicator, bigger fuel tank, aftermarket parts. Just going to buy new chain adjusters, top case rack, big block tires, miroirs and yes change those blinkers 😅
Hi Andy , we’ll I told you it the best road bike , monkey very close and benelli tnt aren’t bad either , you and mrs flyer in a pair of groms , perfect fun 🏍🏍👍👍
The training school I went to had several of those. They were very popular with the other students, I didn’t get much opportunity to ride one.
Looks great fun TMF ,unfortunately I'm in the Chopsy camp 6ft 3 so would look ridiculous on the wee bikes 🙁 mores the pity !! Great review as per usual .👍😁
Thanks for watching and for stopping by - much appreciated!
Thanks Mr. Flyer. What a great little bike, definitely my favorite of the three "minis" especially the colour option you chose here.
How would you compare this (and the other two) to a "normal" 125cc such as the Suzuki that Mrs. Flyer rides for example?
Good question - feels less underpowered weirdly (maybe to do with the size…) but all told I’d still rather have a full size 125, I think for me the novelty of the mini bikes would quickly wear off….
Love the wee Grom and for a shorter gentleman like myself the perfect size for getting out and about. Where did you get the GoPro mount from on front of bike? Great video keep it up.👍
EBay is your friend!
Grom looks the best of the bunch.
Looks like a great bike for around town or a computer. Might be difficult for a taller rider I agree.
I just watched Teapot One crew weekend on Isle of man. Great fun.
Isle of man looks like a smashing ride.
Yes, I’ve never been….
Great little bike looks good quality is it comfortable being such a small machine great vid by the way
Yes it is comfortable - doesn’t feel too much different to a full size bike in the comfort stakes…
Great review as always. What Rukka jacket are you wearing? Cheers.
Mines the Nivala 2 iirc
Looks like the Rukka Forsair Pro Textile jacket
Hi TMF, lovely review! I've loved the groms (well the idea of one) for years. Finally decided to get my license and trying to find a first bike to learn on. I know you touched on it briefly but i'd like to hear a few more of your thoughts if you wouldn't mind. I've just done my CBT and looking for a 125 to get a bit more experience between lessons. I'm 29 so I will be going for my full license in the coming months, all going well. I'm 5'11 and around 11stone. My only concern is if I have a Grom to learn on in between lessons and tests, do you think that would be too much of a difference in size/weight/handling etc. when I do go for my tests on the bigger bikes and also when I eventually come to buy a bigger bike?
Any input is really appreciated, cheers!
Yes I do - I think in your case see if you can get a decent used full size 125 to learn on and then sell on once you’ve passed your test and will be itching for something bigger….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perfect, thanks for your reply. This is mostly what i've been telling myself - its a total head over heart haha. Cheers mate
Just the Cub to go....😍
Hi Andy, yet another great review 👍 lovely little bike but not for me at 6'6'' love to have a go and be like a mini moto 🤣🤣👍🏍🏁
Yes I think it might be a bit of a squeeze in your case….
The Grom ( MSX125) is very popular with the young, as a proper motorbike, in Thailand where it costs 70,000 baht = £1,630 on the road.
That sounds like a bargain!
What a lovely little bike IMO definitely the nicest of the mini bikes, if it had another 5 or 6bhp I'd be very tempted to get one as a town bike but the 9bhp seems a wee bit anaemic for A roads, nevertheless very well made and seems a bargain.
Nicely done TMF. I think as a full licence or A2 licence holder I'd rather have the RE Hunter 350 for essentially the same price. Thanks as always.
Yes I’m with you Colin - these are fun but I think for me the novelty would soon wear off…
yeah and me,both would be nice.though
That was my immediate question watching the review. For about a similar price... a Grom or RE Hunter?
great review, while your on the mini bikes, have you considered the Benelli TnT125?
I did ride one several years ago - it was good as a matter of fact! Review on here somewhere…
Shame you didn't get to test the Cub. The most practical of the 4.
some after market company should make a "convert your honda to have the horn / indicators switches in the CORRECT positions" mod.
As for the Grom, I guess I'm glad it exists. Not everyone is 5 foot 11 inches or taller.
For me, at 5'11", I just find mini bikes too cramped.
When I was a learner, I did also find that fuller size 125cc bikes are really underpowered for 16 1/2 stone fatties like me !
Something like a 350cc Hunter would have probably been fine, I reckon I could have been trusted with one of those as a Learner bike, but well that's not "Da RuleZ" !!
Only suited for small rides and commuting imho.
Small wheels so every pothole is a danger. No luggage capacity. No weather protection at all. Single cylinder so you have to rev it to get a bit of power.
It looks cute though.
350cc is the lower limit for me because you get a normal sized bike to sit on.
Hello, thank you for the review. I had 2021 CB125F before, from pure fun perspektive, is the Grom nicer to ride than CB125F? Thank you! Greetings from Slovakia
It’s more fun due its size, yes!
10:55 A wing flapping Hawker Hurricane? Now I know why so many air combat simulations got their Hurricane Mk. Is wrong: They modelled their virtual ones after this rather sick looking specimen. 😊
Beautiful mini bike. And beautiful countryside with a nice weather you're having. Cheers.
That was the last good weather we had!
Thinking of getting one of these as a space saver bike, moved to a new house and don't have a garage or space for my bike one. But a Grom fits into a Keter storage bin!!! Do you think it would satisfy someone coming from a 600cc?
Possibly not….
I’m 5’2 and weigh about 44kg. I’ve been thinking about getting a bike, and I think a grom as my first would be good but I’m not the biggest fan of the wheels; and it might not be a great idea for the long run. Does anyone know any bikes that are similar in size with the grom?
There’s the Dax and the Monkey?
That amazing little engine can be traced right back to the 1960s in various bikes from the c70 to ss50 mopeds and various 125s. I wonder if Honda even know how many have been made? Amazing to think they also make the mighty Gold Wing and my Deauville for that matter.
60 million and counting apparently. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Super_Cub
I'm about to buy my Minimoto next month, had a 2014 Grom back in 2014.
Still not sure if I should go for the Grom or the Monkey. The Grom has a lot going for the price, the Monkey is the best looking of the two but it comes at a price. In Canada the Grom sell for 4,800$ and the Monkey goes for 6,130$.
Is it worth the 1,300$ premium for the Style?
What is your thoughts between both?
I prefer the Grom….
Looks great. Proper front mudguard too.
Hey TMF! Looking good on those mini-bikes! When I first saw the photo, I thought the logo said Girl Power and that you'd turned all Woke!!
So sad our youth today don’t have the chance to ride these bikes.
Not too sure if the C125 Super Cub, with it's 17" wheels qualifies as a 'Mini Bike' but if you think so, and would like to complete the set, I have one, and only live about 3 - 4 miles from you. So, if you want to give it a go, let me know and you can ride mine.
Super cubs are very underrated and can hustle once you get used to the gear box!
As a person who is 165 cm high (about 5ft 5inches and a bit), I giggle when I hear you say you are small-medium size. LOL!
Do you consider yourself tall then?
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😂 I look up to people of your stature!
Can this bike support two people (driver/passenger)? How is gas consumption?
Yes - and very light!
Doesn't the s.p stand for single person? , Another great review 👍
It has pillion pegs! ….and thanks…
@@TheMissendenFlyer just googled it and it's saying s.p on Honda's 125's mean smart power 🤷
Just wondering how the Grom handled the hill from Hughenden up to Naphill.
Fine!
Come on Honda, why can we not get this gearbox in the C125 / CT125 ?
Wasted to much time on space command and planes came here for the bike tat tat... Good review till that part.. I've got a z650 but only use it back forth work wondering if this could do over 120 miles journey each week about 26 a day...
Yes no problem…
I'm curious , did Mrs. Flyer try this one?
No - insurance stopped play…
Hi.. i saw this video so i thought that i should ask you to give me a suggestion. I am a female, weight 51 kg, height 5'2.5". yesterday i learned how to ride a manual bike on CB125F. I was easily handled that bike and i pushed a little too. The weight of this bike is 117 kg.
One of the man suggested that i should buy a g310r which is 158 kg but the seat height is not bad for me. The other option he mentioned is GSX S125.
So Don't you think that these above mentioned bikes will be difficult for me to pass my test? I am not very strong. I heard that in bikes tests,examiner will ask me to push the bikes without sitting on it.
The seat height should be 30 to 31 inches according to my height.
Please suggest something. 🙏
My wife is in a similar position - we bought her a GSXS125 - it’s a great bike with the lowest seat in its class….
Looks good. Could you get a pillion on?
It has pillion pegs so I guess so!
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah, I noticed that. Didn’t really look like there was enough room on the seat though.
As you said, it would be good for motorhomers. We take a Vespa scooter in ours but it fills the garage area. The grom looks perfect for the job if I can keep the wife on the back!!
It’s such a shame Honda didn’t introduce the CT125 into their lineup. I feel sure it would wipe the floor in sales over the 3 bikes you’ve tested. However great reviews Andy.
Yes maybe….thanks for watching Andy!
Agreed
Sign the petition...
The CT is a great little bike but it's looks are very divisive, a lot of people take them for mopeds.
huh but they do make a ct 125
What’s the seat like after say 20 miles
Ok
It would be great if Honda put a 250cc engine in. It would be an absolute hoot.
Someone's actually don't an engine conversion in one of these groms. A honda cr500 2 stroke. Its an absolute animal..
CR500=🤕💀
I live about 500 meters away from the spitfire and Hurricane at RAF High Wycombe. I agree with you that Bradenham is quintessentially British there’s some lovely walks that you and MRs flyer might enjoy. Or even the whole family if you’re a glutton for punishment. Your also welcome to all come round for a barbecue at our house. If you would like to.
Thank you very much! And yes, we’ve done those walks many times….
@@TheMissendenFlyer that’s good I’ll have to look out for you next time.
Took me no time at all to get use to honda indicators on my cb500x, but if I need the horn in a hurry I can't often find the damn thing with my thumb🤦
Me neither!
Have you tried the benelli TNT 125
It's no comparison to the grom. Grom is better in every way. The tnt is a shite Chinese bike.
I have as it happens!
I agree the allowed 15hp for 125s should be used for all 125s, it does make a massive difference, the grom and TNT are great looking but are not powerfull/Fast enough even for fun....
They seemed like fun to me!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ahh Yes but so is a push bike but you are not comparatively paying mega bucks, I have just got rid of my TNT because it just couldn't cut it on anything but a B road, safety in mind the 15hp makes all the difference.. great looking bikes though
Unfortunately Politicians over many decades from all parties have ruined this country, so it`s great to see these gate gaurdians, even if they are fibreglass replica`s. Talking of Spitfires, any chance of you doing a flight in one of the twin seat Spits, or the Twin seat Hurricane?, that would make great video content.
Great video Andy, i do like the Honda mini bikes, they seem such fun, but would make an excellent commuter bike.
At £6000 for a 30 minute flight unlikely!!
Have to disagree about the looks Andy esp with that tank echoing the headlight.
The plethora of choices for bikes these days is getting towards the problems with choosing paint colours or kitchen styles???
Maybe I'm just old.
You've still got to review the honda trail 125, honda super cub 125, and kawasaki z125, then the mini bike series will be complete!
I’m not sure the cub is a mini bike is it???
@@TheMissendenFlyer True, it's kind of a scooter.
How can this be a grom review, not a single wheelie or any hooliganism was shown. 😄😉
😂
So Cute.
Thank you 🙏
Anyone know if at 6ft + 16 and a half stone I would I be too big to get away with riding one of these?
I think you might be pushing it a little yes.....
Can the Grom comfortably do 50mph?
Yes!
Will do that all day long.
Looks a fun bike for a newby, light and basic. . Not sure I like the looks though a bit fisher price to my eyes. Do like a light bike though so accessible.
Yes I think I agree with that….
@@TheMissendenFlyer going to attempt a coolent change on my Street triple today, 2012 R, black and gold with arrow pipes! You should get another it suited you well 😎
Space Command has wooden WWII planes? Space age thinking? 😂😂😂
Exactly!!! Hilarious!!
Power should be exactly the same on the 5speed Grom and Monkey.
Not a fan of the new Grom looks. The first and second generation Grom's are way better looking
I prefer this one personally…
Always on indicators are dangerous. In sunny conditions someone might mistake those for indicating. Didn't think Honda wanted their riders to get into accidents.
I’m sure there must be some studies/science supporting why Honda think this is a good idea…
Hi, is 'Grom' an acronym for something groovy, or just it's birth 'nym' from Japan?
If the latter, will they do one that belches out thick black smoke & call it the 'Gru'?
Prob with small bikes is having to 'lock' them TO something else when parked up, their lightweight flickability makes them very tempting to the armpits of the criminal world too. Having a Rottweiler on the pillion may help, but good-luck getting your 'double-meat-feast' pizza home in one piece, if you did manage it, the dog would likely eat your bike : )
Does it take a lot of effort to have at least some 3rd party footage of the bike running to include in a review?
Yes it does
An electric version would be great instead of petrol
Monkey and Dax re unique. Groms are for. kids.wiith ASBO. .For adults, Pointless - If you want a street naked , buy a proper one. Monkey and Dax though , are different class. They are genuinely classic, looking, fantastic, to ride and not mini versions of anything. If you are 17, Grom it. If not, get the Monkey or Dax. Way cooler 😂
Riders should wear a high visibility jacket or vest. In traffic, something that small is almost invisible.
Fair point
S.p could mean, special paint..
I’ll take it!
Andre :: SP = Stupendous Power .