A Better Way to Turn A Motorcycle | A Beginners Guide to Cornering

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  • There is a better way to corner a motorcycle than the way you may have been taught in your basic rider course. In this video we'll focus on a much more efficient and less risky way to get a motorcycle around a corner.
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  • @CanyonChasers
    @CanyonChasers  ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you want to take this to the next level, check out an updated version of this video that answers some of the most common questions: th-cam.com/video/fuoYUYFNkGI/w-d-xo.html

  • @harrykirk
    @harrykirk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    THIS video is saving lives. i am 80 yr old and still riding a gsxr 600 i feel so concerned for new riders who know nothing about counter steering they pass test get a faster bike and no one has told them how to get it round a bend you see it all the time on you tube riders with great bikes the best gear running out of road for the sake of a few words of advise WELL YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB OF DOING JUST THAT, I WISH EVERY NEW RIDER COULD WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANKS

    • @jamesfarley2048
      @jamesfarley2048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s awesome, hope I can say the same for myself at 80 y/o

    • @greggilmour3482
      @greggilmour3482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I needed this.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I turned 30 when I sold my gsxr 600 one of the reasons is that I have a sore back after a while. You’re 80!! Keep it up man! High five.

    • @user-sw4go6vc5s
      @user-sw4go6vc5s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You serious ? Your 80 and ride a gsxr600, I think your chatting b.s

    • @user-sw4go6vc5s
      @user-sw4go6vc5s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RUBBERNMETAL hes lying

  • @jamesbonanno3359
    @jamesbonanno3359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    It's easy to miss how well this gentleman presented the material. Articulate and to the point. I enjoyed how this was done in such a manner as to be easily understood and not overwhelming. Kudos!

    • @piers132
      @piers132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Much like this comment! Great praise!

    • @MozzaBurger88
      @MozzaBurger88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And not spending 5 minutes telling us about his great-grand-aunt cooking techniques and his last trip to 7-Eleven. Always nice to have videos getting straight to the matter and not milking that ad money.

    • @richcarroll642
      @richcarroll642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he was damn good.

    • @donaldboston3855
      @donaldboston3855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. This was great

    • @bigelowwatts6257
      @bigelowwatts6257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Trail. Braking will save your life.

  • @chucksherron
    @chucksherron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Slow is smooth.
    Smooth is fast.
    A truism for most learned skills.

    • @sambyf2445
      @sambyf2445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Drew Kangaroo Shooter movie. Mark Wahlberg says it to the young kid learning to shoot

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except with sex

    • @kakarottoyt6405
      @kakarottoyt6405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fee.1 wtf

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kakarottoyt6405 well you see when a man and a woman love each other they ...scissor

    • @kakarottoyt6405
      @kakarottoyt6405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fee.1 I get it 🙂

  • @stephenvogel9930
    @stephenvogel9930 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As a 70 yo new rider, I’ve found this video to be exceptionally explained and throughly covered…Thanks for posting this

  • @dbc1dc
    @dbc1dc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    This has to be one of the best, most common sense tutorials on how to corner, and ride in general. You got a subscriber out of it

  • @kazager11
    @kazager11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    10:16 - 10:32 - Slower is smoother, safer, & FASTER - Great piece, great line. There are no videos I watch faster than you and RyanF9. Your videos are so well planned out and concise, you don't waste a second!

    • @sasquach3.090
      @sasquach3.090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes sir. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

    • @Anderzander
      @Anderzander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn’t agree more 👍🏻

    • @Anderzander
      @Anderzander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      touristguy87 who’d have thought another unpleasant aggressive anonymous individual on the Internet missing the point! 😂

    • @kazager11
      @kazager11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@touristguy87 could you explain what YOU BELIEVE is meant by "slower" in this video (do what slower)? Just curious.

    • @KilliKonKarnage
      @KilliKonKarnage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeh I like this guy for his concise manner of giving critical info

  • @shannonchurchill4556
    @shannonchurchill4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “Staying ahead of the bike” is a term I have used for years. My favorite advice was something Al Unser Jr during said in an interview during qualifying for the Indy 500 in the early 90’s. A TV interviewer asked what it’s like going 240MPH. Al replied, “Well, ya gotta look wayyyy down the track...” Good video.

  • @LeoSilva-gf8hr
    @LeoSilva-gf8hr ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fantastic content! Thank you!
    I'll never forgot a couple of pieces of advice on cornering I received many years ago and your video brings them to mind. "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" and "in like a lamb, out like a lion" :D
    "Staying ahead of the motorcycle" is great advice as well!
    Safe rides

  • @drdebrillos8909
    @drdebrillos8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I try to Never let pressure from vehicles behind you make you forget the exceptionally valuable points of wisdom in this video

  • @haroldguillarawan9066
    @haroldguillarawan9066 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never knew that I was doing this in the back of my mind. The only reason why I don't push myself to lower angels of attack is that I don't wanna be the a hole who causes problems on the road. Now I appreciate dad's instructions even though I never understood them. Shout-out to all the amazing Dad's out there. ❤

  • @ammarnanaa6657
    @ammarnanaa6657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy very carefully chooses his advice with your safety in mind. He cares and isn't just a youtuber. You can sense it.

  • @michailkouskoutis6709
    @michailkouskoutis6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    As a new rider that helped me a lot. My fear was always the cornering. You did excellent job with this video. Thank you guys. I wish you the best and keep safe driving.

    • @Tamaresque
      @Tamaresque ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hopefully it will keep you upright for many a year.

  • @FNGMOTO
    @FNGMOTO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is absolutely one of the best channels on TH-cam.

  • @michaelsupple6081
    @michaelsupple6081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Yet another outstanding video. Whenever I feel I need a reminder or refresher on a motorcycle related skill I always come back here. Thank you. ☝️

  • @davashman9712
    @davashman9712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been riding for over 50 years but still learning. These videos are great.

  • @pimdubuf3272
    @pimdubuf3272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These videos are great. I've been taking their advice to heart for some time now, and in regular traffic I feel like I've gained quite a significant amount of extra safety margin, control and got more relaxed as a rider. (And also got a hell of a lot quicker if the situations allows for it). Good job guys.

  • @veritas88n4
    @veritas88n4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Nearly rode a 50cc into a corner yesterday while out for my first drive ever. Suffice to say, I backed off on a 690cc I was eyeing and got a 125cc. Slow and smooth.. I'll get there.

    • @abdulmoizayyaz
      @abdulmoizayyaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MAKE SURE , YOU GO REALLY SLOW AND DONT ACCELERATE WHEN ITS WET AND ICY AND WHEN THERES A PATCH OF MUD OR LEAVES !!!!

    • @shaneparfitt77
      @shaneparfitt77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And don’t make the mistake of getting a 690 as your next bike. Go up in stages, I just got a Duke 390 and it’s perfect for a city commute and does 120kmh / 80 mph all day long. And you still get to ring the nuts out of it. Get a 690 when your in Germany and don’t have speed limits, otherwise they are just a ticket collector. I much prefer to smash thru the gears, rather than pottering around in 3rd all day.

    • @larsvargstrand6749
      @larsvargstrand6749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdulmoizayyaz or painted asphalt...

    • @LiloUkulele
      @LiloUkulele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shaneparfitt77 I was ready to drop the hammer on a new R3...after reading the reviews and my own sensibility...got the R15...couldn't be happier. Riding a slower bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow...and trying to stay alive. A 125cc is way plenty to become a safe confident rider, develop your skills and enjoy riding..BTW: most motoGP riders practice and stay in shape with a mountain bike!

    • @shaneparfitt77
      @shaneparfitt77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LiloUkulele nice choice with the single thumper. But I went for the naked KTM duke. I need to be upright looking around. I have a 25 km suburb to city commute, to and from work every day, car trip 1hr 20mim. bike trip 25m because we can legally lane filter here. I need to be upright and throwing it around like a dirt bike, weaving the shit out of it. Plus I’m an almost 60 yo grandfather, my days of sports bikes are over. My back, shoulders, and arms can’t take that shit anymore. I much prefer being comfortable and up high with a view.

  • @syakiraiman7828
    @syakiraiman7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I already watched this 3 times and never get bored of it. Thank you Canyon Chaser for helping newbies like me.

  • @H34D5H07
    @H34D5H07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is totally worth listening over and over.

  • @luizsenaontour
    @luizsenaontour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey man! I discovered your channel two days ago. I watched a lot of videos and yesterday went for a ride. I felt much more confident in turns. I'm practicing trail braking now. Congrats for the great content.

  • @kenahnemann8343
    @kenahnemann8343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You guys knock it out of the park every time! So informative, concise, and entertaining. Thanks so very much.

  • @libinchandran9934
    @libinchandran9934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Indeed ! Thanks a ton for making me a smarter rider. In fact i applied the techniques u mentioned in earlier vids that really worked ! .. when ever i sat on my bike allowing to warm up my engine , your advice popups in my head , that really gives me super confidents to move on. I can't thank enough. ..

  • @abdo19code
    @abdo19code 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. One of the best lessons I ever learned in my life (wasn't even related to riding, but it's applicable in so many situations)

  • @rameshjagaswaren8928
    @rameshjagaswaren8928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I watched this before embarking on a mountainous trip with my experienced friends... Sufficient to say it helped me a lot and gave me huge moral boost to safely bike while enjoying good rides.. Subscribed the channel.. Thanks guys.

  • @nez1703
    @nez1703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a fairly new rider struggling to get the cornering to feel right, this video is invaluable. Thanks a lot

  • @scottspringer6036
    @scottspringer6036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This point of interring the corner wide has been the best advice for me in over 40 years of riding, I’m safer now than I’ve ever been and also enjoying riding more than ever with this new found confidence from your tutelage..... thanks. Looking forward to a favourite ride later today even more after watching this. Keep it up! 🙏

  • @mason3307
    @mason3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video and a great reminder for all levels of riders. I find I am in that risky category of becoming very comfortable riding. I should be evaluating my level each time I ride and try not to get too comfy.

  • @CocoaBeachLiving
    @CocoaBeachLiving 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the sharing the nuances of this topic. I feel like I do these things already, but just coming back to riding after some years, I'd forgotten some of the points, like thinking more than two seconds ahead and taking the corners wide.. Slower is faster and more satisfying, especially when it comes to the 'coming home in the same condition I started the ride' part.

  • @natec3993
    @natec3993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guys advice literally saved my life.

  • @terry_1952
    @terry_1952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your info. It's a good reminder to get through a turn safely. I've caught myself going wide in a turn and it's scary so I took a refresher course since I hadn't rode in many years and it was a great help. I enjoyed your video and looking forward to seeing the others

  • @dubbeljubobby
    @dubbeljubobby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent! Just found your channel and kudos to you guys for putting together a channel that allows rider to improve their skills and become a better rider! Too many out there that are teaching poor skills/behaviors. Relayed and put together well, from an experienced rider that knows you can never stop learning. 👍🏼 (SUBSCRIBED!)

  • @The333
    @The333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Outstanding video - one of the best I have seen on the topic. Bravo!

  • @davidlamb3557
    @davidlamb3557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a rider returning to it after many years, I have found this video exceptionally useful and heartily recommend it.

  • @johnconant657
    @johnconant657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knowing a subject isn't the same as being able to teach it. This video is so good because he's not only knowledgeable, but he understands what it's like not to know what the topic he's presenting. Great teacher.

  • @erikwhitley413
    @erikwhitley413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Admittedly the hardest thing for me to overcome is not looking far ahead enough. I think it was motojitsu that uses the term "big head turn" in his cornering videos. When I remind myself to do that, it makes a huge difference (still a work in progress and I've been riding since the mid 80s).

  • @TypeSly
    @TypeSly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Honestly, I can be a bit of a troll sometimes... but there's absolutely nothing on any of your points that I can troll you about lol. Great advice on your videos :)

  • @drumcdoo9050
    @drumcdoo9050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video modestly explained. Haven't ridden a bike for years so a great reminder of how to ride and also how tecniques have changed.
    When entering a bend always used to compromise a little and not go too near the outside, just in case another vehicle was cutting the corner from the opposite direction.
    This is in UK where many roads, especially lanes are not very wide. Vehicles often end up cutting corners to avoid going in pot holes lining the sides of roads.

  • @AakashKale27
    @AakashKale27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was so relatable when you say look ahead for 10-15 sec ahead.. I'm a motorcyclist with 9 years of experience and it totally translate into roads... Amateurs just pull the throttle and brake...with experience you'll learn how to maintain the speed rather than doing bursts and brakes. You go alot more faster and safer this way

  • @notsoancientpelican
    @notsoancientpelican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very well said. In slowing before the corner, consider downshifting before the corner if you think you will need to. It’s less busy than trying to downshift during the turn and it will give you plenty of torque to accelerate coming out. Never go into a turn until you know what’s coming. Much heartbreak results otherwise.

  • @gerrickrosado1839
    @gerrickrosado1839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like I’ve taken expert training from you and your videos. Thanks for making quality work!

  • @andrewwelham8633
    @andrewwelham8633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!! You guys consistently nail it. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

  • @bootz0409
    @bootz0409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tutor in this vid is absolutely gifted in the art of teaching. I learned more in 11 minutes than the last 11 rides. My next 11 rides will be safer and more enjoyable. How you sign off your vids with the phrase "ride well" is typical of your safety-first approach. Thank you for every video you make! 😀👍

  • @TheRock-xj7hs
    @TheRock-xj7hs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A dear friend of mine who has done Boston marathon in under three hours told me one day when we were training “slow is smooth and smooth is fast“ and I couldn’t figure it out for a while and then it clicked. Thanks JP!

    • @doctorhonda111
      @doctorhonda111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Rock ur mom is smooth and fast

    • @tomgould2410
      @tomgould2410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      World record marathon ?

  • @TheGlugorian
    @TheGlugorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely loved the video! A year ago i fractured my ankle whilst on a off-road bike training, took me a year to get back on the bike; just fear of hurting myself again. I was very afraid of corners especially. I then get new riders telling me how i don't lean enough and enjoy the corner as i should. I'll practice more with what i have seen in this video.

    • @CanyonChasers
      @CanyonChasers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, man! Remember, the best riders reduce lean angle as much as they can. A street rider with no "chicken strips" scares me. Strive for proficiency, not speed. Ride your ride.

  • @Skuglyft
    @Skuglyft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos help so much. Learned more here then when I took my license. Thanks now I'm off to practice some more trail breaking

  • @AshHockey
    @AshHockey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear and concise - great learning. Stay safe everyone!

  • @sgtcortez19
    @sgtcortez19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a new motorcycle rider (but 20 years of biking), this is both common sense and very informative. I've found that applying some of my biking habits to my motorcycling habits helped a lot in reducing stress while on the road.
    Your content is a real trove and every video I watch makes me want to go out and try your tips !

  • @DonEdro
    @DonEdro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you! You reminded me that I still have a huge amount of skills to improve. Thank you also for the video you did once a as response to my question. Appreciate it.

  • @lingwistawawpl
    @lingwistawawpl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Priceless, much appreciated to be able to watch it!

  • @owloped405
    @owloped405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched the trail-breaking video and loved it. I haven't started practicing that yet this season. I started to get a feel for it at the end of last season but only have a few hundred miles in this season and so will start practicing again once I shake the winter dust off. I enjoyed this video too. I feel watching videos like yours and practicing them in the world will make me a much better rider.

    • @79sketches
      @79sketches 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched too, and practiced on twistie roads and it feels weird at the beginning but it was not that difficult! (also practiced with my wife on the bike) do not tell her hahaha

  • @michaeltaylor5939
    @michaeltaylor5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Excellent video! I've been riding for almost 30 years and I'm still surprised how many riders don't know how to counter-steer. I would like to comment on one thing: "Continue to accellerate through the turn" is just bad wording in the old manuals. They didn't mean to imply you should be speeding up throughout the turn. The intent of that statement was to say you shouldn't coast through a turn. You should always have some throttle applied. The way it was written is bad advice if taken literally, but if the message is taken as intended, it's correct. You should not let off the throttle completely during a turn or a curve. If you have to suddenly accellerate for some reason, it's safer to do so with power already applied. Suddenly accellerating when you are coasting and leaning can cause the back tire to lose traction and cause a crash.

    • @timmytackle9181
      @timmytackle9181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The voice of experience speaking wisdom 👍🏻

    • @rustyglock
      @rustyglock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for clearing that up! I just finished my MSF course and was taught to hold steady throttle through the turn and then I thought it was wrong. haha

    • @jazzcam2799
      @jazzcam2799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maintenance throttle 👍🏼

    • @tompritchard301
      @tompritchard301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! That was confusing me a bit.

    • @Starbuckin
      @Starbuckin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 2016 Kymco Downtown 300i will go wide if I increase throttle in a curve and will tighten up and increase turn radius if I reduce throttle so I think that’s good advice. I’m getting a 2002 Harley Heritage soft tail next week and I bet it will do the same thing.

  • @VictoriaAlexeeva
    @VictoriaAlexeeva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I fell taking a sharp corner, now I understand my mistake. Thank you so much for explaining! I will be practicing more.

  • @raymadani270
    @raymadani270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have watched this multiple times and yet worth of watching again 🙂

  • @spoofer07
    @spoofer07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I found this video, first video I find that teaches about slowing before cornering. Everyone else just teached you how to corner, but never to slow.

  • @HermanMunster420
    @HermanMunster420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was taught to drive a standard transmission car. A basic example is to drive in 3rd gear, then downshift into 2nd below going into the turn, then going back into 3rd after exiting the turn. This was on residential, but it can be applied to other gears depending on whether you're on the highway or residential driving. I find it works pretty good when cornering on a motorcycle.

  • @Haplo59
    @Haplo59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the great content!
    Your trail braking video literally changed my way to enter a curve, that's been a HUGE improvement in the fun and the security of my riding style. A little weird in the beginning, but after a few hours of practicing it became natural.
    Now I recommend all my riders friends to watch our videos, these should be used in riding classes just after getting the license. Some of them still think I'm crazy to enter a curve on the front brake haha...
    Greats from French Alps ;)

    • @KamenKachev
      @KamenKachev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was taught not to touch the front brake when turning too! However when I started riding my bike I was doing this constantly and I was very scared that I am holding gently the front brake sometimes to the mid of the corner. Now I understand that it is actually a thing ... Now my next fear is sand in the middle of the turn and sliding the front wheel away.

    • @adjbob56
      @adjbob56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KamenKachev they have a video on that th-cam.com/video/9VXL4l7g0gI/w-d-xo.html

  • @helloween1972
    @helloween1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video ive just jumped back on after 15yr away and this is helping me with regaining confidence on corners

  • @dalen.tenney5210
    @dalen.tenney5210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    outstanding! the first time i've seen a simpler and more applicable explanation. some folks will make counter-steering something a physics major would have trouble understanding. turning the handlebars while going straight is going to make the motorcycle start to fall (push on the left grip the balance is affected and it will fall to the left/lean left), which instantly becomes a turn to the left to avoid the fall! another good tip on turns is slow to the point you can stop comfortably in the distance you can see ahead of you. thanks for your video. keep up the good work!!

  • @FranBunnyFFXII
    @FranBunnyFFXII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A CANYON CHASERS VIDEO?! yeeeessss.
    Added to my Motorcycle Training playlist.

  • @GDLOTKIDOG
    @GDLOTKIDOG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like this guy. Thank you sir for helping school us.

  • @jordo-yn2wd
    @jordo-yn2wd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just got my learner rider license in australia and im quite scared of going fast and cornering but your videos are making me more confident and teaching me how to ride better. thanks

  • @peppermyntpatti144
    @peppermyntpatti144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best instructional video I’ve seen yet. Thank you for speaking at a pace that I could follow. So many videos that I’ve watched I can’t follow because the speaking is so fast. It was precise, clear and the concept understandable. Thank you!!!

  • @jvl4832
    @jvl4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As the motorcycle season in Europe begins , this was a wonderful mental refresher for seasoned riders as well as beginners. Thank you for such great tutorials.....it may save a life! God bless and safe riding...

    • @bartholomewlyons
      @bartholomewlyons 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay indoors, dude, stop spreading the virus. Dirtiest continent so far - Europe. Defeat the virus, then think about having fun. Irresponsible knobo

    • @Knakkerman-
      @Knakkerman- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bartholomewlyons by riding around you are not spreading it. You can only spread or get the virus if you come in contact with other people. Almost all of the social places (aka restaurants, night clubs, gyms, etc) aren't allowed to be open anyway. At least that is what the Netherlands (my country) is doing right now. So go ride if you are well enough. Just don't go giving people high fives and just keep your distance.

    • @mikeolson6843
      @mikeolson6843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I took a 30 year break from riding to raise 4 kids. I'm subscribing because I need to refresh my skills. This is common sense training. I worked my way up from a RD 350 Yamaha to an XS 1100. I now have a GL 1500. The same rules apply to all bikes.

    • @jvl4832
      @jvl4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bartholomew Lyons
      Your opinion has been over-hauled; riding doesnˋt spread the Virus and Europe as dirtiest continent (not nice word usage, dirty has nothing to do with it) will be unfortunately outdone by the USA , especially my home town ny. The police in europe are not stopping motorcyclist; except in bavaria, they just don’t want them to congregate. Everyone here has been very disciplined staying at home and keeping their distance. We are taking this very seriously !

  • @garyredmond1890
    @garyredmond1890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Love that you didn't feel the need to bang on at length about Counter Steering, so many motorcycle cornering videos fixate on Counter Steering like it is some mystic art/magic, when in reality it is just something every motorcyclist is already doing when going round a corner.

    • @CanyonChasers
      @CanyonChasers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anything, I think countersteering has been sold as the one perfect solution to every problem. Its not at all. It may even increase risk in some situations. If you are slowing into corners, you barely even need it.

  • @peterford9369
    @peterford9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Practice is your best friend. But practice gradually. My experience. Thanks, good lesson.

  • @akaTelo
    @akaTelo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's maybe weird how the TH-cam algorithm dictates views, but I just saw this video after I watched the other videos on cornering and on trail braking.....and I gotta say, it's amazing how well articulated the advice is. I'm not looking to be a racer or anything but I want to be able to not get stuck in a position of "oh shit" on any turn I need to make on the street, and this channel is without a doubt helping me do that. Dave has a way of really laying down the concepts in words that hold meaning when re-imagined in the viewers' minds

  • @FLuuMP
    @FLuuMP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Just finished my msf course and the only thing I lost points on was accelerating through the entire curve. It just doesn't feel right!

    • @iantahmasbi
      @iantahmasbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Look into trail braking. You hold the brake and trail off just past the apex

    • @jesseflo4222
      @jesseflo4222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like corners with lots of tension, engine breaking. I feel more control specially on a heavy bikes.

    • @cottonballs9
      @cottonballs9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fluump?! What are you doing here!!?

    • @daze8410
      @daze8410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It'd make sense if you rode the same course with a bicycle. I don't mean that to sound demeaning.... You feel the torque and slip with your legs more and you'd be more comfortable taking it on a motorbike

    • @deanwoodward8026
      @deanwoodward8026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can guarantee you mis-heard what you got points for.

  • @robertmann6890
    @robertmann6890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I do believe that the MSF course instructors are changing how they word things. You mentioned accelerating throughout the corner. What I heard was to accelerate “or” maintain throttle. I believe trail breaking is an advanced skill but all riders should learn how to do it. It has saved me from running wide more than once. I’m always working on entry speed and smoother corners. I like your rule about accelerating coming out of the corner being a measurement for a good corner. Great video 👍🏻

    • @robertmann6890
      @robertmann6890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      touristguy87 Maybe I didn’t word things correctly? I think you miss understood what I was trying to say? Yes, like every single rider out there I have struggled with entry speed, ect. Speaking from experience. It was a learning curve for me to learn trail breaking. I always work on Self-Improvement. When I have something to say that would benefit a new rider I post my personal experience. I didn’t want a new rider to think trail breaking would be easy to learn. Break and clutch control are both hard to master. I have been riding for 41 years.

    • @JoshNewby84
      @JoshNewby84 ปีที่แล้ว

      I often hear people say trail-braking is an "advanced" or "race track only" skill. I think that's 100% false because as car drivers EVERYONE instinctively trail-brakes all the time. Just watch for brake lights on freeway off ramps. Even grandma keeps brake pressure on well passed the turn-in point!! The only difference between driving & riding is that in general motorcycle controls (throttle, brakes, turning) are harder to master smoothness with & you're more likely to upset the chassis balance with an aggressive input.

  • @matteocordioli7031
    @matteocordioli7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is THE number one channel for bike learners, thanks and keep up the great job

  • @jeffgarner3903
    @jeffgarner3903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about this very topic at the end of fall last year. Especially the what gear question. I’m excited to practice the ideas taught in this video this riding season!

  • @alexmcbride2087
    @alexmcbride2087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy is a brilliant teacher.

  • @digsbollx4309
    @digsbollx4309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "We have met the enemy and they are OURS", is Perry's quote. "US" is from a 1960's Anti-Vietnam cartoon strip... how I know this I do not know! Great videos and as always very informative and entertaining. Keep it up!

    • @CanyonChasers
      @CanyonChasers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know. I tried several times but could never make it through "They are ours" without messing up - So I changed last minute to "us" thinking nobody will notice - clearly all y'all canyonchasers are an informed bunch!

    • @xXBattlemaidXx
      @xXBattlemaidXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Navy vet, poor cornerer and office nerd, here. I caught that too and I almost commented lol. I use the twisted version alot at work because it does a good job capturing the hopelessness of business improvement :-(

    • @willatkinson7958
      @willatkinson7958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I first read that quote in a Pogo comic strip back in the early 80s.

  • @evanawolff5702
    @evanawolff5702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this. I'm a new rider. Yesterday I rode on a road with very tight corners for the first time. It was going downhill and I didn't use the front brake enough (instead I only used the back brake, since I wasn't used enough to the front one. stupid I know). I was really scared the whole time and couldn't control my motorcycle well. I got lucky two or three times, but it might have been worse. I rode this road again but using the front brake a lot more, and I was instantly less scared and more confident. It was much more enjoyable. I find cornering very hard, so thank you so much, I'm definitely going to remember and try to apply every quality advice in this video.

  • @salvatoredeluca0810
    @salvatoredeluca0810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video tutorial I’ve seen yet! Thanks to how well he explained everything! I am watching the rest of his videos now! Thank you!

  • @kosovoisserbia1389
    @kosovoisserbia1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just got my license. Honestly, they were pretty much handing them out. I understand that the money is a big motivator for everyone, but motorcycle is not a toy. I just bought a 300cc ninja and 0-60 is about 5.5 seconds (I saw on YT), so you can hurt yourself pretty badly in just 5.5 seconds. Speed is fun, motorcycle is fun and being one with the bike is an amazing feeling, but proper front brake usage and safe cornering are just too important and more attention should be given to them in those classes.

    • @LiloUkulele
      @LiloUkulele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      anyone can pull the throttle back and go fast, but executing a perfect slow tight u turn 100% of the time takes skill & practice. Being a safe rider takes maturity and skill. All your points are on the money and great advice! ride safe!

  • @LisaLadyRider
    @LisaLadyRider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Of course, the man who made an entire video comparing science fiction space ships to motorcycles would be wearing a Star Wars Mandalorian hat.

    • @CanyonChasers
      @CanyonChasers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love that video! In case anybody is a motorcycle riding scifi nerd like myself... th-cam.com/video/8DqR_40eCU8/w-d-xo.html

    • @impact0r
      @impact0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star Wars is fantasy, not science fiction. Star Trek is science fiction.

    • @johnnytopgun6414
      @johnnytopgun6414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CanyonChasers that's the first thought i had was where can i find the video. Thanks and you have a new subscriber so many years and kms of riding and I didn't know about you

  • @deant6627
    @deant6627 ปีที่แล้ว

    This clip is very helpful, I have been out of the motorcycle game for 20+ years and am getting back into it. Seeing clips like this helps the knowledge return.

  • @swhedge71
    @swhedge71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! Thank you! One can never stop learning... you give clear and concise information and your knowledge speaks for itself! Always look and think ahead!

  • @davebevin3278
    @davebevin3278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, someone who touches on counter steering

    • @nathanielduarte1770
      @nathanielduarte1770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I started to think about counter steering during riding I'd probably crash and blow up 😂

  • @richardanderson4916
    @richardanderson4916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As they say in the gun world..."slow is smooth, smooth is fast"

  • @McQueenFrancis011264
    @McQueenFrancis011264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Second time I have watched this channel, and, again, valuable information especially written to the letter of enjoying riding again, thank you so such great teaching... Blessed 🙏 looking forward to the next time 🙏❤️🙏🙌🙌

  • @scooter313
    @scooter313 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't ridden in years but as I remember back about my own riding experiences this information rings true for me and I think I am getting an itchy wrist that needs turning.
    Thanks for the great instruction.

  • @USMCCGAGNG
    @USMCCGAGNG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good rule for driving as well as motorcycling is if you don’t know what’s ahead of you don’t go faster than you can handle if something pops up. ie. Pot hole, sand/dirt, rocks, tighter corner than you thought. Pile ups are what happens when people don’t do this.

  • @greatscott8468
    @greatscott8468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Try learning to corner correctly people before popping wheelies..... Seriously 🤦‍♂️

    • @jimmyb4982
      @jimmyb4982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How about not popping wheelies at all. Is it necessary? I know . . . I sound boring.

    • @ashwinrawat9622
      @ashwinrawat9622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jimmyb4982 do you need a villa when you can stay in a cardboard box?

    • @jimmyb4982
      @jimmyb4982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashwinrawat9622 So, popping wheelies is akin to staying in a villa? I'm not sure I follow.

    • @ashwinrawat9622
      @ashwinrawat9622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimmyb4982 what I meant was sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone, not everyone does what only what is necessary, people like to explore extremities. I'm personally a cruiser rider so I don't pop wheelies, but I don't judge people who do, safely though.

    • @Ladosligese
      @Ladosligese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      even better .. do NOT risk other peoples lives by popping wheelies on public streets :D .. how does that sound ? :D

  • @meganweyls1210
    @meganweyls1210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is so helpful! I really really struggling with cornering and understanding how, thank yoU!

  • @weekendwarriorT7
    @weekendwarriorT7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see you back again! Great video as usual!

  • @Trev9
    @Trev9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's always bad mentors.. For instance, I grew up believing all the bullshit older guys told me, until I saw their bikes. Always a pile of junk and never bought new, or decent pre-owned... Same with cars. And then I realized.. A person who is responsible enough to pay decent money, is responsible enough with his own possessions, his life and others and does not drive recklessly. He is also the one to have a decent education and a good knowledge of how things works.... He is a guy who goes in slow into the corners and uses brakes and is not afraid to show it

    • @D.E.X
      @D.E.X 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they are faster, too...I look at their tire, and then I look for bike slide telltales. If you are lowsiding, you are not doing the quick flick in.

    • @helltanner3722
      @helltanner3722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you learn to ride or drive on rats or clunkers it teaches breaking and handling with no room for failure. .you can't afford a mistake on a rat or in a clunker. I learned on rats and clunkers and the stupid reckless weaving thru traffic on new pretty machines makes me understand why bikers are hated.

    • @HardHatDIver412
      @HardHatDIver412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t brake in corners

    • @helltanner3722
      @helltanner3722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HardHatDIver412 you do if you do it right.. Gentle. Front break can help

    • @D.E.X
      @D.E.X 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HardHatDIver412 Sure you do. I do and have, for more than forty years. The real experts say you should. But trailbraking is a skill and a fist full of front brake in a curve is a crash. We even trailbrake off road. Yep, in a corner, on a dirt road, front brake. Even on my '00 Drifter 1500. I suggest practice in a parking lot.

  • @lindsaymac01
    @lindsaymac01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rule 1: Never let a motorcycle take you somewhere your brain wasn't three seconds earlier. Rule 2: First comes right, then comes fast.

  • @oneblackdogrides
    @oneblackdogrides 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the awesome reminders - I'm off to a training course tomorrow so will watch again and again, and some of the others...
    Re the following & sighting times - over here in Oz we use the number 3, 6 & 12 as a guide;
    3-second following distance
    6-second sighting distance - ie, you can always see 6 seconds of road ahead of you, and
    12 seconds scanning distance.

  • @jhpbrown
    @jhpbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did the bikesafe course in the UK, they teach us to follow IPSGA which is basically the same as you've put across here.
    Information - What can you see? Roadsigns, Lines, Other road users, Parking areas, Turn offs etc etc
    Position - Left turn, Move to the right of the lane before the corner, Right turn, move to the left
    Speed - achieve your corner entry speed
    Gear - choose the gear for the corner
    Acceleration - Accelerate out of the corner.
    Works for me, and all the other bikesafe students I know

  • @RickLincoln
    @RickLincoln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are great at presenting information like this . Your videos have made me a more thoughtful rider and have expanded my skill set. Thanks.

  • @NINZIE1949
    @NINZIE1949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always great info in a logical , simple, easy , way to follow. thx

  • @1automoto
    @1automoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cornering and braking - is the most important in motorcycles riding!) Thanks!)

  • @sasquach3.090
    @sasquach3.090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always enjoy seeing an update from y'all. I love watching and then going and trying to implement afterwards. Very good stuff here.
    P.S. I bet you I was videos have gotten a lot of motorcyclist to go see Utah, with all the great background clips lol.

  • @esr243
    @esr243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You explain it well, repeating concepts when necessary with the right amount of clear explanations. Great ! I learned. And thanks

  • @mario_unleashed3828
    @mario_unleashed3828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great content, im about to start my license in germany, i bought all the gear and im hyped for this adventure

  • @ghostpepperrides4805
    @ghostpepperrides4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a believer that at age 68 dirt and street with 55 years of real riding. I always have more to learn. Motorcyclist always must stay educated and willing to learn from years of experience and to learn from the new rider. Great video. This video alone will save lives. You may never hear about it but it will.

  • @nerotyagi
    @nerotyagi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such a great video! I crashed a few weeks ago because I entered the bend too fast, fixated on a target, found gravel on the bend when it was too late, and then crashed into the guardrail. I can picture every second of that crash, and this video just taught me a billion things I did wrong. Will never make the same mistakes on my new bike again. Subscribe earned. Thank you so much!

    • @soujrnr
      @soujrnr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so glad that you're ok. Having a run-in (no pun intended) with a guard rail is usually a death sentence for a rider, or very, very bad at best. I lived in southern Kalifornia for about 13 years right at the bottom of the mountains, and it always pained me to read of the death of riders on those twisty mountain roads. A VAST majority of those deaths were crotch rocket pilots with more testosterone than brains, and they paid the ultimate price. You'll NEVER go wrong watching Dave's videos here!! He is simply the best teacher on the Internet for riding skills. I'm glad you survived and I KNOW you'll be a better rider after having watched Dave as long as you put what he tells us into practice! Ride safe and live to ride another day!

  • @migueltaveras8557
    @migueltaveras8557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best damn riding tips I've ever seen or heard