Hey there FIU! I am a UF Gator living in NZ for +20 years now and this is just another example of how many things this little country does so well. It's a compassionate, caring, intelligent, and HUGELY patriotic place. It is a perfect example of how leadership, science, compassion, and citizenry work together. 5 million people taking it their stride with a daily Jacinda and Ashley show.
@Jeri Brown I think many Kiwi's love our country that makes us patriotic. Those kiwis that don't love our country usually move to Australia but being ANZACs we still have that bond.
Yes, NZ is a great place. I very much enjoyed my trip there. It has many features including a broadly-shared culture, small population and low density. I'm in Miami, and just our metro area is over 6 million people from a far wider range of countries and ethnic backgrounds than NZ. Half the population speaks a language other than English at home (most commonly Spanish)! And this is just the Miami metro area, which is incidentally 1/17th the land area of NZ. The U.S. is 330 million people, across 50 distinct states, with 50 powerful governors, and a unique history of codified skepticism of government. It's important to bear these facts in mind when comparing countries because often there is simply no comparison.
As for our medical experts, Dr Ashley Bloomfield, NZ,s director general of health, the country have put him on a pedestal, made cool songs up about him, selling jewellery, towels, ect..., with his face on them. A really cool song is on a programme called “the spin off”. Hilarious. He came out everyday with the PM, and kept us very informed. I love my country❤️
@Paeata Clark Wrong guy. You’re talking about David Clark, minister of health, among whose many faults was he never fronted like the PM and the DG of health did. Bloomfield basically did the job Clark should have been doing, but as a civil servant rather than a politician, and coming from a medical background, he spoke with authority that Clark would never have had.
Communication was key. New Zealanders understand scientific data. We didn't want to hear from politicians, what do they know? It's the Doctors who gave us clear information.
LOL! You just disproved your own assertion in one sentence - clearly most Kiwis DO NOT understand science or there would be NO LOCKDOWNS or FACEMASKS. Those two are UNSCIENTIFIC, even according to WHO which is the most political of organisations out there. You seriously are in noddy land. Anders Tegnell is a doctor and scientist he's the one you should be listening to not shiny bottom Bloomfiled, Hipkins or Sousxie banshee Wiles all of whom are politicos and bureaucrats, not scientists.
@@davesherry5384We dont have community spread here so the scientists must know something. Thank goodness most NZers undetstand how good we got it. Would you rather we had death tolls like USA or the UK? No thanks.
The other important point to make is that our prime minister led us with kindness and exemplified compassion. Our media encouraged us with medical updates as things changed. Our people acted unselfishly thinking about others before their own sacrifices. Yes, we all made sacrifices, but it united us with kindness and tolerance. I feel as a long term immigrant so blessed to live here and call myself New Zealander, world citizen. Thank you my fellow countryman/woman.
The government here also covered as many public concerns ss quickly as possible,especially around wage support for small & large businesses. In my case i am a mechanical engineer & sole trader in a rural workshop & recieved a lump sum payment 5days after filling out a 1minute form on my phone over a coffee..!!!
@@gavinthomas2166 says From nz you can have her not someone like her ---------------------------------- REPLY: You only speak for yourself. The majority of her detractors are supporters of the alt.right nazi supporting goons like yourself :)
Thanks Lisa! We are very lucky to have a leader that we trust. The results we have are due to her leadership and guidance. Ardern also has a huge fan base in the alt.right sphere they have labeled her public enemy number one for her empathy and support for the Muslim community during a alt-right terror attack in Christchurch.
Gavin Thomas ..your a Internet troll, one of many that make it their job online to discredit our Pm, always ignoring the fact that she has kept NZ safe and have worked for the people...🤷♀️
Also, we have a low population density and we are isolated islands at the bottom of the world. We don't have to worry about land borders, so one can imagine it would be easier than other countries?
Even in lockdown we had the freedom to go out our doors go for a walk just social distance having a month lockdown made alot of sense it stoped any more chance of communal spread common sense people if all those other dumbasses in other country just stoped beinf fucktards yall might not have the on going covid cases the only covids cases we have now are nz citizens returning
Paul Faber it didnt matter if our pop is lower than most having the lockdown we had and people listening to common sense even tho alot didnt like it stoped the spread of covid it remained in those clusters it would be the same if all those dumbasses overseas just stayed ome stopped worring about the bullshit about freedoms being taken away what was a month to six weeks of lockdown nothing in the bigger picture
Keep in mind before the pandemic happened we in nz went thru a shooting and our government acted on it straight away pulling out knew gun laws and being very sympathetic to whom was involved in it, the whole country supported it. At that point she had our trust. No we didn’t protest, communication and trust was the key. Government do what they have to do in order to keep order that’s why we vote for them. But you can’t lie to your people, otherwise you get anarchy. Simple.
The “whole” country didn’t support the government’s actions around the Chch attack, it’s an extremely poorly considered and emotionally based reaction to an extremely disgusting act of an extremely disturbed individual. There was opposition to changes in gun laws, those opposing the laws were more than willing to have a reasonable discussion around the whole thing but the laws got rushed in with no real consultation with those who’d it effect and because it didn’t effect the mass of New Zealand’s citizenry and the emotional distress fresh in the psyche of the public those who were against a wholesale knee jerk reaction never got heard and this government took advantage of these factors to push through pointless reforms on a typically apathetic nation essentially demonizing a good portion of law abiding citizens to appeal to their woke base.
@leftfoot So what knowledge is missing here? What exactly is a “gun nut”? Can you point to facts from trustworthy sources about where the opposition to the knee jerk reaction to firearms law changes came from? Even if you can point to a satisfactory source it doesn’t change the fact that laws were changed under bullshit urgency that demonized gun enthusiasts throughout NZ, the only thing that was achieved is that anti-gun “nuts” took disgusting advantage of a tragic situation, a sad bunch of opportunistic assholes that took advantage of an ignorant sentiment perpetuated by willfully ignorant bad actors. In short form nothing in you comment changes what I said in my comment.
@leftfoot Again none of what you mentioned here changes facts, how it went down and wether it undertaken in a fair and honest manner (which it wasn’t). So you don’t agree with semi-auto firearms, good for you and best of luck to you but there are plenty of people who a gun enthusiasts that derive plenty of enjoyment from their guns, they enjoy all sorts of guns for all sorts of reasons. If this ban had any real effects on the possibility of something like this happening in the future I might more receptive but it doesn’t, all it’s done has effected law abiding citizens, that all it’s actually changed, nothing else.
im proud to be kiwi. take a bow everyone in new zealand. u have done an amazing job guided by a wonderful PM and government. yes only one active case in the whole country now and for the last 2 weeks no new cases
#ChuffedKiwi here just popping in to say that we trust our leadership team because they make decisions based on the science and data. And now it's Summer, we're all travelling to enjoy the beautiful country we call home❤
We closed our boarders for a reason, we have been watching other countries, not so great, i am so proud to be a kiwi, health and safety is our no 1 priority, unlike these other countries what a mess.
@Paeata Clark True story. It was fun sitting in a deck chair out in the front yard yakking to all the people walking their dogs and cycling past. I think social distancing was more social than normal. It was just being kind to each other as Auntie Jacinda asked us to be.
It was summer when the lockdown occurred and people were incouraged to exercise within their neighbourhood. Teddy bear hunt, Easter egg hunts etc. There's also a dedicated heath line available. Stress was reduced with a wage subsidiary, and rent freezes, no one could be evicted if they rent. The banks were ordered to be lenient with mortgages. Stuff like that.
There has been an increase in mental health services because of course not all businesses recovered and it has been a scary experience for many. We have begun rolling out vaccines to the most vulnerable from our health clinic, but we don't turn anyone away.
Yes - you were due to have a "review" of whether you should move to Level 1 on 22nd June ... but the evidence is clear, you have beaten Covid-19 - it could happen as early as next week! I'm really impressed - you didn't just go for "flattening the curve" - you went for it ... complete elimination of the virus (!) And you did it. You are the envy of the planet! I've paricularly enjoyed the fact that such extreme measures were taken by a masterful communicator. The message could have been "STAY AT HOME. DON'T YOU MOVE. OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED." But she more or less said "STAY IN YOUR BUBBLE. BUBBLES ARE NICE. BUBBLES ARE COOL. NOBODY CAN HURT YOU WHEN YOU STAY IN YOUR BUBBLE." Same thing - but a much nicer way of saying it. It worked - the resistance to her was very minimal. Congratulations! :)
Now no new COVID-19 cases in New Zealand for about 19 days in a row. Economy (but not border) fully reopened and even our sports stadiums will be full again from this coming weekend.
Really enjoyed that. One thing Michelle got wrong was thinking we wouldn't see any rugby anytime soon. In fact, things have moved very quickly since last week when this was aired and as the country is now officially COVID-Free we are three days away from the first game!
I think a big part of why the plan received public support was due to government assistance for incomes and businesses, e.g., wage subsidies and interest free business loans etc. If that financial support was not there, then perhaps pressure to keep things open might have been greater. That woulld have made containing the dreaded lurgy far more difficult. I see people saying NZ's example can not be applied elsewhere, because we are an island and are sparsely populated. Well, the UK is an island and it has not helped them. Most people in NZ live in cities. Auckland has three times the population of Detroit, so the sparse population argument looks quite flimsy too. P.S. As for China, I'd rather NZ does not get dragged into the USA's Asia Pivot etc. It is shaping up to be a new cold war. No thanks. We were lucky to survive the first one and should not presume we will be lucky a second time. What is it with the USA and its always looking to have adversaries? Why can't it look to just get along with the world and leave countries be? Human rights? Yeah right. USA is not exactly a world leader on that domestically and it supports the majority of the world's dictatorships. Maintains peace, i.e., Roman Peace? Nah. Endless wars and the USA has repeatedly polled internationally as the greatest threat to world peace (Gallup). Global hegemony and having the rest of the world bend the knee, so the USA can reap the lion's share? That might be it. War, sanctions, alliances against et cetera does not work very well at all to change countries and make them more like what the USA would want, even though I personally think the USA should butt the hell out of the rest of the world and allow the UN to do its job. What does make countries more like each other is cultural exchange. That can be achieved via time, trade and commerce etc. China and Vietnam are examples of this. Very closed communist countries that went to mixed market economies and then gradually the rest of the world has rubbed off on them. Both counties now have a lot of western influence. In time that will affect them politically (I would not want my internet censored and I oppose the death penalty, but there are actually things I admire about China. 100s of millions lifted from poverty. Life expectancy has increased too. The amazing logistical and supply chain infrastructure they have built. Education is another. Literacy is greatly improved, plus they now have a huge pool of skilled people. They develop enterprises so those skilled people can work in their field of expertise. It is not just labour costs that make multinationals want to set up there. They also seem far less bossy than the USA and more interested in trade than the grand chessboard type games the USA plays around the world. Seeing those positives alongside the negatives is why I do not do this simplistic and binary judgement of good country, bad country. When politicians do that they are usually seeking to demonize a place to justify their adversarial position towards it. Then the media and citizens are encouraged to follow suit. Unhealthy almost imperial mentality that is not critical, reasoned and rational).
Trump is looking for a convenient scape goat to blame for his bungled pandemic response . .and China fits the bill , ,though had China been up front to the world with the out break in Wuhan , had shared all it knew with the WHO, things could have played out differently and many lives could have been saved.
NZ's population is smaller than the Miami metro area with about 20 times the territory. The cultural, historical and demographic backdrop is deeply unlike that of the U.S.. Not to mention that the structures of our governments are different in important ways. The population of the U.S. is 330 million.
@grantcivyt so with 300+ million folks in the US how hard is it to find a handful of people to lead you out of this nonsense, you can’t find at least 1?
@@tooxtalivai0690 I don't need anyone to lead me. I listen to different experts, read about local conditions and accept that there are a lot of unknowns in this circumstance. A lot of trouble stems from the thinking that there should be some elite group in charge that will steer this ship straight. Better that authority is distributed and localized to the extent possible.
@grantcivyt even by that logic your still going need a leader or leadership team……really? you really want to argue the point by making the same point in a contrived manner remember United States not League of Independent States come on man.
A massive advantage is we have a welfare system that we can trust, so people could be confident that the lockdown would not equal a massive economic disaster for individuals.
With well over half a million dead, the US definitely needs to study closely how countries like New Zealand have limited their exposure to the virus. Certainly, closing borders helped, but other factors were also instrumental. Could the USA or the UK have closed their borders in a similar fashion? Absolutely. But the leaders of those countries couldn't distinguish between short-term economic cost and long-term social impact.
That Lady has more brain's than you 2put together,,she owns a business that deal's with nano mechanical engineering research into cell's,,she a lecturer at Auckland uni,in Chemical/Material engineering,, she's one smart cookie,, she's known as Nano girl,, Need to do research before commenting,,the background look,is for the School children's shows she does,,
No active cases now nobody in hospital,and the last death was somebody who was 97,who didn't die from covid19 but current health issues complicated possibly by the Virus. No cases for 12 _13 days.
21 July 2020. Still no community transmission for over 2 months now. Cases at the border with incoming New Zealanders. 26 of them country wide. Approx 30,000 kiwis have returned. All completing a 2 week quarantine. No one currently in hospital with the virus. Still only 22 have died. All these people were talked about and thought of the day they died (Not names) at the daily talks. New Zealanders are now trying to re-boot the local tourism with school holidays the last 2 weeks and places like ski fields have been doing more business than normal. School have now started the second term since the lockdown finished. People from the States for Lord of the Rings have finished their quarantines and are now working. We are open as normal in New Zealand. Our borders are only open for New Zealand citizens and people who have been accepted to come in. For citizens ALL medical is free. We have had full stadiums for Local Rugby. Masks are not required. Jacinda has already had talks letting us know what to expect over the coming months. Our economy is up and working well. Some people have lost jobs it will take time to sort. Like everywhere. Our election is in September. We were looking at having a bubble with Australia but currently they have their second wave so that is on the back burner for the moment. Never been so proud of being from New Zealand. So far our team of 5 million is winning. Hopefully we can continue to contain cases at the border
@@davesherry5384 4 February 21. How so? There will always be a chance of transmission. Currently we have someone that came out of isolation and then became sick. We have 2 cases of community transmission and they are on top of it, everything has been traced. Still only 25 deaths but over 100,000 people have been through quarantine. The cases are in the far north and to date there is no lockdown in the country and we are living pretty much as normal.
No setup is perfect day one, find a hole you patch it, continue until the another one pops up... to expect a perfect result out the gate is ludicrous. Given the majority of cases now are all people in isolation coming in from outside the country id say the holes are pretty much all covered.
I completely disagree with her on communication. 1. Going into was a panic. For example we had 2 days to close down our building site. It was chaos making it safe (yes H&S and security of the clients building and equipment and the tools, machinery was required). Getting workers that came from around the country home on short notice while the transport system was shutdown was a nightmare 2. The communication during the lockdown was an embarrassment for anyone that understands scientific method. No stats about what was happening or trigger markers, future plans etc. Simply what had happened in the last 24hrs. The briefings were a bunch of sycophants asking their best friend how the day went. The only true questions occurred on the Friday briefing when Robertson (Anderns deputy) took over. 3. No planning. Ever country knew from multiple events from previous years that they need plans. NZ had nothing, it was completely shooting from the hip, then pretending there was a plan. 4. The call made was the right one. Ardern listened to those in health care, but even BS to cover up. For instance r ance they told everyone masks were not required, even withholding them from some health care staff, probably because there simply wasn't enough due to lack of planning Summary is there has been a lot of either self delusion, lying, or incompetence. This applies to every country I have observed. NZ still managed to get the correct calls. For any country this will still work today as there really only needs to be 2. Shutdown contact for the incubation/infection period, and close borders to prevent reinfection..
4 months later. We are now in the worst recession NZ has ever known. We still have cases and the populace is undergoing severe mental and physical distress due to lockdowns. New Zealand did not get it right. Sweden did
@@bodybalanceU2 Who is Mark? And I don't have a bank balance. Not a positive one anyway because Jacinda has relentlessly locked us down and it has destroyed my business. Lockdowns kill more people than CV 19 ever will. Depression, stress, people not having regular GP check ups etc. If you want to hide behind your sofa because you're so afraid of this hoax, that's your choice. But I am not afraid and I wish to carry on with the life I had before.
its easier when you have a compliant population that trust their leader and scientists and comply when their leader tells them this is how its going to be - transparency and honesty to the masses is also an advantage and empathy is also a trait a leader should have - unfortunately america is lacking in all of the above at the moment so nzs outcome was never going to happen in the usa
Unity and trust. That's all! I doubt there's 1 person In NZ who is prepared to cause anyone to die. We ( majority) stayed inside and stayed apart 2 metres. Not rocket science. We know we'll have new cases because kiwis will be returning home from hot spots. We will deal with that. No country is finding this easy. America is making a huge mess of this crisis. Having no leader would be better than the one it has.
while u have to most likely shut down due to 2nd wave>Sweden will have already reached herd immunity. oh and BTW>Sweden economy is doing better than most. People forget to factor that in. It's not over yet. Still to see who got it right.
Herd Immunity is never a certainty, and covid appears to be one that is tricky to get herd immunity with to boot... Viruses change constantly, the less chance it gets to infect the less chance it has to change.
@John Mann I think this whole interview was a setup to relegate New Zealand back to the 56-million-sheep days. Probably orchestrated by Ozzies. That lady was certainly on an ego trip. It has been so enjoyable driving on our roads in the last 2 weeks - no Kamikaze tourists! NZ can produce all it's own food so if everyone takes a small reduction in their standard of living and gets back to manufacturing, we will be okay.
She also a children's show educator and she uses the equipment as props when she does a show. One of her goals is to promote science to the young and get them actively involved in science. She is also recognized world wide in her field of study.
Dr Dickinson set up and runs New Zealand's sole nanomechanical testing lab, which conducts research into breaking extremely small materials such as cells. She is also a senior lecturer in Chemical and Material Engineering at Auckland University, and an associate investigator at the MacDiarmid Institute for Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology. She is also an educator and is known as nanogirl. The background is a set for her childrens education show "That lady" as you refer to is a leading scientist and asset to the science community here in NZ, and one very smart cookie.
@@stoneman5498 Thank you, Stoneman. I wasn't aware how senior Dr Dickinson was in her field. That would explain her self-confidence which I mistook for ego. The background also fooled me as it looked like something from a "mad professor" movie. My apologies to Dr Dickinson.
Who said we're still in a bubble? People are still working and the children have gone back to school. It's all thanks to Labour! When National was in power, the first thing they did was put the GST tax up from 12% to 15%. No wonder everything in the supermarket is expensive... Yep. Thanks... Thanks alot 🙄
Maybe a fact check might be an option so you don't make such a fool of yourself with ill informed posts. Unemployment rate down to pre Covid levels, economy booming as people discover their own country, same as Australia; www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-economy-surges-out-of-recession-amid-spending-spree
Tourist's are the last thing we need,,glad NZ is in lockdown,,give our country a chance to breath,,and relax,,the tourist's and pack Packers were a curse to the countryside,, especially with the moron's using our scenery's as a toilet wherever they thought was ok,instead of the, facilities supplied,,now peace has come to our land,, AMEN 🙌
Hey there FIU! I am a UF Gator living in NZ for +20 years now and this is just another example of how many things this little country does so well. It's a compassionate, caring, intelligent, and HUGELY patriotic place. It is a perfect example of how leadership, science, compassion, and citizenry work together. 5 million people taking it their stride with a daily Jacinda and Ashley show.
What rubbish
@@erinloo8921 Yes, it is true we do have butt hurt snowflakes too, as you demonstrate.
@Jeri Brown I think many Kiwi's love our country that makes us patriotic. Those kiwis that don't love our country usually move to Australia but being ANZACs we still have that bond.
Yes, NZ is a great place. I very much enjoyed my trip there. It has many features including a broadly-shared culture, small population and low density. I'm in Miami, and just our metro area is over 6 million people from a far wider range of countries and ethnic backgrounds than NZ. Half the population speaks a language other than English at home (most commonly Spanish)! And this is just the Miami metro area, which is incidentally 1/17th the land area of NZ.
The U.S. is 330 million people, across 50 distinct states, with 50 powerful governors, and a unique history of codified skepticism of government. It's important to bear these facts in mind when comparing countries because often there is simply no comparison.
@@grantcivyt did you notice we live in cities
As for our medical experts, Dr Ashley Bloomfield, NZ,s director general of health, the country have put him on a pedestal, made cool songs up about him, selling jewellery, towels, ect..., with his face on them.
A really cool song is on a programme called “the spin off”. Hilarious.
He came out everyday with the PM, and kept us very informed.
I love my country❤️
"DR Ashley I want to be in your bubble" great song.
@Paeata Clark Wrong guy. You’re talking about David Clark, minister of health, among whose many faults was he never fronted like the PM and the DG of health did. Bloomfield basically did the job Clark should have been doing, but as a civil servant rather than a politician, and coming from a medical background, he spoke with authority that Clark would never have had.
He should get our countries highest honor love him yet we know as kiwis we are a can do country lots of countries notice that now ♥️♥️
Absolutely NZ is the best country.
Communication was key. New Zealanders understand scientific data. We didn't want to hear from politicians, what do they know? It's the Doctors who gave us clear information.
LOL! You just disproved your own assertion in one sentence - clearly most Kiwis DO NOT understand science or there would be NO LOCKDOWNS or FACEMASKS. Those two are UNSCIENTIFIC, even according to WHO which is the most political of organisations out there.
You seriously are in noddy land. Anders Tegnell is a doctor and scientist he's the one you should be listening to not shiny bottom Bloomfiled, Hipkins or Sousxie banshee Wiles all of whom are politicos and bureaucrats, not scientists.
@@davesherry5384We dont have community spread here so the scientists must know something. Thank goodness most NZers undetstand how good we got it. Would you rather we had death tolls like USA or the UK? No thanks.
@@davesherry5384 the Govt listened to the scientists and. Locked us down we had no choice really. Lol
It's such a pleasure to listen to itellegent people talk. Thank You.
The other important point to make is that our prime minister led us with kindness and exemplified compassion. Our media encouraged us with medical updates as things changed. Our people acted unselfishly thinking about others before their own sacrifices. Yes, we all made sacrifices, but it united us with kindness and tolerance. I feel as a long term immigrant so blessed to live here and call myself New Zealander, world citizen. Thank you my fellow countryman/woman.
The government here also covered as many public concerns ss quickly as possible,especially around wage support for small & large businesses.
In my case i am a mechanical engineer & sole trader in a rural workshop & recieved a lump sum payment 5days after filling out a 1minute form on my phone over a coffee..!!!
Way to go New Zealand!! Wish we had a President like her in the US.
From nz you can have her not someone like her
@@gavinthomas2166 says From nz you can have her not someone like her
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REPLY: You only speak for yourself. The majority of her detractors are supporters of the alt.right nazi supporting goons like yourself :)
Thanks Lisa! We are very lucky to have a leader that we trust. The results we have are due to her leadership and guidance. Ardern also has a huge fan base in the alt.right sphere they have labeled her public enemy number one for her empathy and support for the Muslim community during a alt-right terror attack in Christchurch.
Gavin Thomas ..your a Internet troll, one of many that make it their job online to discredit our Pm, always ignoring the fact that she has kept NZ safe and have worked for the people...🤷♀️
@@ngatibroffessor1840 there is no such thing. Who believes that rubbish?
You missed 2 important factors ; we closed the borders and secondly we trust our PM - the leader.
Also, we have a low population density and we are isolated islands at the bottom of the world. We don't have to worry about land borders, so one can imagine it would be easier than other countries?
@Bigbradwolf and you could have done better.
Even in lockdown we had the freedom to go out our doors go for a walk just social distance having a month lockdown made alot of sense it stoped any more chance of communal spread common sense people if all those other dumbasses in other country just stoped beinf fucktards yall might not have the on going covid cases the only covids cases we have now are nz citizens returning
Paul Faber it didnt matter if our pop is lower than most having the lockdown we had and people listening to common sense even tho alot didnt like it stoped the spread of covid it remained in those clusters it would be the same if all those dumbasses overseas just stayed ome stopped worring about the bullshit about freedoms being taken away what was a month to six weeks of lockdown nothing in the bigger picture
@Bigbradwolf Haha looks like your a Simon Bridges supporter.
Keep in mind before the pandemic happened we in nz went thru a shooting and our government acted on it straight away pulling out knew gun laws and being very sympathetic to whom was involved in it, the whole country supported it. At that point she had our trust. No we didn’t protest, communication and trust was the key. Government do what they have to do in order to keep order that’s why we vote for them. But you can’t lie to your people, otherwise you get anarchy. Simple.
The “whole” country didn’t support the government’s actions around the Chch attack, it’s an extremely poorly considered and emotionally based reaction to an extremely disgusting act of an extremely disturbed individual. There was opposition to changes in gun laws, those opposing the laws were more than willing to have a reasonable discussion around the whole thing but the laws got rushed in with no real consultation with those who’d it effect and because it didn’t effect the mass of New Zealand’s citizenry and the emotional distress fresh in the psyche of the public those who were against a wholesale knee jerk reaction never got heard and this government took advantage of these factors to push through pointless reforms on a typically apathetic nation essentially demonizing a good portion of law abiding citizens to appeal to their woke base.
@leftfoot So what knowledge is missing here? What exactly is a “gun nut”? Can you point to facts from trustworthy sources about where the opposition to the knee jerk reaction to firearms law changes came from? Even if you can point to a satisfactory source it doesn’t change the fact that laws were changed under bullshit urgency that demonized gun enthusiasts throughout NZ, the only thing that was achieved is that anti-gun “nuts” took disgusting advantage of a tragic situation, a sad bunch of opportunistic assholes that took advantage of an ignorant sentiment perpetuated by willfully ignorant bad actors.
In short form nothing in you comment changes what I said in my comment.
@leftfoot Again none of what you mentioned here changes facts, how it went down and wether it undertaken in a fair and honest manner (which it wasn’t). So you don’t agree with semi-auto firearms, good for you and best of luck to you but there are plenty of people who a gun enthusiasts that derive plenty of enjoyment from their guns, they enjoy all sorts of guns for all sorts of reasons. If this ban had any real effects on the possibility of something like this happening in the future I might more receptive but it doesn’t, all it’s done has effected law abiding citizens, that all it’s actually changed, nothing else.
im proud to be kiwi. take a bow everyone in new zealand. u have done an amazing job guided by a wonderful PM and government. yes only one active case in the whole country now and for the last 2 weeks no new cases
#ChuffedKiwi here just popping in to say that we trust our leadership team because they make decisions based on the science and data.
And now it's Summer, we're all travelling to enjoy the beautiful country we call home❤
We closed our boarders for a reason, we have been watching other countries, not so great, i am so proud to be a kiwi, health and safety is our no 1 priority, unlike these other countries what a mess.
What are you going on about? Ardern kept the borders wide open.
@@johndonwood4305 only for returning Kiwis.
Question: how did you handle the mass effect on people mental health... people here, in Montreal, are greatly affected by the lomg term isolation
@Paeata Clark True story. It was fun sitting in a deck chair out in the front yard yakking to all the people walking their dogs and cycling past. I think social distancing was more social than normal. It was just being kind to each other as Auntie Jacinda asked us to be.
It was summer when the lockdown occurred and people were incouraged to exercise within their neighbourhood. Teddy bear hunt, Easter egg hunts etc. There's also a dedicated heath line available. Stress was reduced with a wage subsidiary, and rent freezes, no one could be evicted if they rent. The banks were ordered to be lenient with mortgages. Stuff like that.
There has been an increase in mental health services because of course not all businesses recovered and it has been a scary experience for many. We have begun rolling out vaccines to the most vulnerable from our health clinic, but we don't turn anyone away.
right now Friday 29.05 2020 we have ONE (1) case of covid 19 in our population of 5 million peoples
i know i am soo happy
Yes - you were due to have a "review" of whether you should move to Level 1 on 22nd June ... but the evidence is clear, you have beaten Covid-19 - it could happen as early as next week!
I'm really impressed - you didn't just go for "flattening the curve" - you went for it ... complete elimination of the virus (!) And you did it.
You are the envy of the planet!
I've paricularly enjoyed the fact that such extreme measures were taken by a masterful communicator.
The message could have been "STAY AT HOME. DON'T YOU MOVE. OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED."
But she more or less said "STAY IN YOUR BUBBLE. BUBBLES ARE NICE. BUBBLES ARE COOL. NOBODY CAN HURT YOU WHEN YOU STAY IN YOUR BUBBLE."
Same thing - but a much nicer way of saying it.
It worked - the resistance to her was very minimal.
Congratulations! :)
@@jazzx251 After every days information and update session, the final message she gave was always "be kind"... and so say all of us !!
Now no new COVID-19 cases in New Zealand for about 19 days in a row. Economy (but not border) fully reopened and even our sports stadiums will be full again from this coming weekend.
I just stayed home, went to the supermarket everyday, got drunk and fat
I picked cigarettes out of the gutter and started smoking just to have something to do.
Really enjoyed that.
One thing Michelle got wrong was thinking we wouldn't see any rugby anytime soon.
In fact, things have moved very quickly since last week when this was aired and as the country is now officially COVID-Free we are three days away from the first game!
Yeeehaaa,i can't wait for kick off,been a long time between drinks.
Don't forget 18 of those deaths were in one resthome
Nope.
They have new 72 cases reported yesterday .
The wage subsidy has been extended another 12 weeks.
Also we are now 15 days in a row with no new cases
It's truly needed
I think a big part of why the plan received public support was due to government assistance for incomes and businesses, e.g., wage subsidies and interest free business loans etc. If that financial support was not there, then perhaps pressure to keep things open might have been greater. That woulld have made containing the dreaded lurgy far more difficult.
I see people saying NZ's example can not be applied elsewhere, because we are an island and are sparsely populated. Well, the UK is an island and it has not helped them. Most people in NZ live in cities. Auckland has three times the population of Detroit, so the sparse population argument looks quite flimsy too.
P.S. As for China, I'd rather NZ does not get dragged into the USA's Asia Pivot etc. It is shaping up to be a new cold war. No thanks. We were lucky to survive the first one and should not presume we will be lucky a second time.
What is it with the USA and its always looking to have adversaries? Why can't it look to just get along with the world and leave countries be? Human rights? Yeah right. USA is not exactly a world leader on that domestically and it supports the majority of the world's dictatorships. Maintains peace, i.e., Roman Peace? Nah. Endless wars and the USA has repeatedly polled internationally as the greatest threat to world peace (Gallup). Global hegemony and having the rest of the world bend the knee, so the USA can reap the lion's share? That might be it.
War, sanctions, alliances against et cetera does not work very well at all to change countries and make them more like what the USA would want, even though I personally think the USA should butt the hell out of the rest of the world and allow the UN to do its job.
What does make countries more like each other is cultural exchange. That can be achieved via time, trade and commerce etc. China and Vietnam are examples of this. Very closed communist countries that went to mixed market economies and then gradually the rest of the world has rubbed off on them. Both counties now have a lot of western influence. In time that will affect them politically (I would not want my internet censored and I oppose the death penalty, but there are actually things I admire about China. 100s of millions lifted from poverty. Life expectancy has increased too. The amazing logistical and supply chain infrastructure they have built. Education is another. Literacy is greatly improved, plus they now have a huge pool of skilled people. They develop enterprises so those skilled people can work in their field of expertise. It is not just labour costs that make multinationals want to set up there. They also seem far less bossy than the USA and more interested in trade than the grand chessboard type games the USA plays around the world. Seeing those positives alongside the negatives is why I do not do this simplistic and binary judgement of good country, bad country. When politicians do that they are usually seeking to demonize a place to justify their adversarial position towards it. Then the media and citizens are encouraged to follow suit. Unhealthy almost imperial mentality that is not critical, reasoned and rational).
Trump is looking for a convenient scape goat to blame for his bungled pandemic response . .and China fits the bill , ,though had China been up front to the world with the out break in Wuhan , had shared all it knew with the WHO, things could have played out differently and many lives could have been saved.
This is how adults run a country
Adern is not an adult. She is a Communist dictator
NZ's population is smaller than the Miami metro area with about 20 times the territory. The cultural, historical and demographic backdrop is deeply unlike that of the U.S.. Not to mention that the structures of our governments are different in important ways.
The population of the U.S. is 330 million.
@grantcivyt so with 300+ million folks in the US how hard is it to find a handful of people to lead you out of this nonsense, you can’t find at least 1?
@@tooxtalivai0690 I don't need anyone to lead me. I listen to different experts, read about local conditions and accept that there are a lot of unknowns in this circumstance.
A lot of trouble stems from the thinking that there should be some elite group in charge that will steer this ship straight. Better that authority is distributed and localized to the extent possible.
@grantcivyt even by that logic your still going need a leader or leadership team……really? you really want to argue the point by making the same point in a contrived manner remember United States not League of Independent States come on man.
Hello from new zealand
A massive advantage is we have a welfare system that we can trust, so people could be confident that the lockdown would not equal a massive economic disaster for individuals.
How did all the smart tall girls end up in New Zealand?
umm...bc we're smart? :)
@@rawiniah :-D
With well over half a million dead, the US definitely needs to study closely how countries like New Zealand have limited their exposure to the virus. Certainly, closing borders helped, but other factors were also instrumental. Could the USA or the UK have closed their borders in a similar fashion? Absolutely. But the leaders of those countries couldn't distinguish between short-term economic cost and long-term social impact.
Hmmmm not a good prediction on rugby, super rugby started today with a full stadium. As of 13 June. NZ teams only.
UBI & Automation we can do this
that lady Michelle is no tv announcer in NZ like they said?? never herd of her
She's full of crap though.....
That Lady has more brain's than you 2put together,,she owns a business that deal's with nano mechanical engineering research into cell's,,she a lecturer at Auckland uni,in Chemical/Material engineering,, she's one smart cookie,, she's known as Nano girl,,
Need to do research before commenting,,the background look,is for the School children's shows she does,,
She's not a reporter. Google is your friend.
12 cases last week and more cases today. Hooray for Ardern.
#5MillionStrong ❤
yep, thank you Jacinda it's 13/01 2021 now and we still rock
3 months later and NZ is covid free (still) and our border control is doing a fantastic job going from strength to strength.
i am new zealand yay 1 active case
No active cases now nobody in hospital,and the last death was somebody who was 97,who didn't die from covid19 but current health issues complicated possibly by the Virus.
No cases for 12 _13 days.
21 July 2020. Still no community transmission for over 2 months now. Cases at the border with incoming New Zealanders. 26 of them country wide. Approx 30,000 kiwis have returned. All completing a 2 week quarantine. No one currently in hospital with the virus. Still only 22 have died. All these people were talked about and thought of the day they died (Not names) at the daily talks. New Zealanders are now trying to re-boot the local tourism with school holidays the last 2 weeks and places like ski fields have been doing more business than normal. School have now started the second term since the lockdown finished. People from the States for Lord of the Rings have finished their quarantines and are now working. We are open as normal in New Zealand. Our borders are only open for New Zealand citizens and people who have been accepted to come in. For citizens ALL medical is free. We have had full stadiums for Local Rugby. Masks are not required. Jacinda has already had talks letting us know what to expect over the coming months. Our economy is up and working well. Some people have lost jobs it will take time to sort. Like everywhere. Our election is in September. We were looking at having a bubble with Australia but currently they have their second wave so that is on the back burner for the moment. Never been so proud of being from New Zealand. So far our team of 5 million is winning. Hopefully we can continue to contain cases at the border
Spoke too soon didn't you?
@@davesherry5384 4 February 21. How so? There will always be a chance of transmission. Currently we have someone that came out of isolation and then became sick. We have 2 cases of community transmission and they are on top of it, everything has been traced. Still only 25 deaths but over 100,000 people have been through quarantine. The cases are in the far north and to date there is no lockdown in the country and we are living pretty much as normal.
For people who enjoy total shite please watch this.
Thank you so much
From nasir johnfelix
Ardern got too smug for her own good. Covid returned because of poor border security.
Ardens smug is better to look at than john keys and Simon Bridges smug.
poor little johnny still crying over jacinda - did she snub you little johnny twinkle
No setup is perfect day one, find a hole you patch it, continue until the another one pops up... to expect a perfect result out the gate is ludicrous. Given the majority of cases now are all people in isolation coming in from outside the country id say the holes are pretty much all covered.
I completely disagree with her on communication.
1. Going into was a panic. For example we had 2 days to close down our building site. It was chaos making it safe (yes H&S and security of the clients building and equipment and the tools, machinery was required). Getting workers that came from around the country home on short notice while the transport system was shutdown was a nightmare
2. The communication during the lockdown was an embarrassment for anyone that understands scientific method. No stats about what was happening or trigger markers, future plans etc. Simply what had happened in the last 24hrs. The briefings were a bunch of sycophants asking their best friend how the day went. The only true questions occurred on the Friday briefing when Robertson (Anderns deputy) took over.
3. No planning. Ever country knew from multiple events from previous years that they need plans. NZ had nothing, it was completely shooting from the hip, then pretending there was a plan.
4. The call made was the right one. Ardern listened to those in health care, but even BS to cover up. For instance r ance they told everyone masks were not required, even withholding them from some health care staff, probably because there simply wasn't enough due to lack of planning
Summary is there has been a lot of either self delusion, lying, or incompetence. This applies to every country I have observed.
NZ still managed to get the correct calls. For any country this will still work today as there really only needs to be 2. Shutdown contact for the incubation/infection period, and close borders to prevent reinfection..
4 months later. We are now in the worst recession NZ has ever known. We still have cases and the populace is undergoing severe mental and physical distress due to lockdowns. New Zealand did not get it right. Sweden did
rubbish mark you prefer swedens death toll - lives a more important than your bank balance
@@bodybalanceU2 Who is Mark? And I don't have a bank balance. Not a positive one anyway because Jacinda has relentlessly locked us down and it has destroyed my business. Lockdowns kill more people than CV 19 ever will. Depression, stress, people not having regular GP check ups etc. If you want to hide behind your sofa because you're so afraid of this hoax, that's your choice. But I am not afraid and I wish to carry on with the life I had before.
NZ economy booming, Sweden an unmitigated disaster, read below links.,
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-economy-surges-out-of-recession-amid-spending-spree
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/sweden-crisis-worsens-after-its-antilockdown-stance-proven-a-failure/news-story/de444b198eb996a3c9af469d72089dfe
5 Million people vs 350 million = exponentially easyer.
its easier when you have a compliant population that trust their leader and scientists and comply when their leader tells them this is how its going to be - transparency and honesty to the masses is also an advantage and empathy is also a trait a leader should have - unfortunately america is lacking in all of the above at the moment so nzs outcome was never going to happen in the usa
Trust your leader you get results... Divide a country and all hell breaks loose
Unity and trust. That's all! I doubt there's 1 person In NZ who is prepared to cause anyone to die. We ( majority) stayed inside and stayed apart 2 metres. Not rocket science. We know we'll have new cases because kiwis will be returning home from hot spots. We will deal with that. No country is finding this easy. America is making a huge mess of this crisis. Having no leader would be better than the one it has.
What?? Nothing wrong with it, What about Amercian Cup and come get it back.... Little size link thin air+ Covid-19 tiny is bigger than USA Country.
But not impossible..
This didn't age well
Terrible audio!!!
while u have to most likely shut down due to 2nd wave>Sweden will have already reached herd immunity. oh and BTW>Sweden economy is doing better than most. People forget to factor that in. It's not over yet. Still to see who got it right.
No need to wait. Sweden 5000 deaths, New Zealand 22. Maths!
Sweden already has admitted herd immunity is not working. People are getting it a second time.
Sweden is not a good example. Aso, our Maori and Pacific Island people are at greater risk than other ethnic races.
Herd Immunity is never a certainty, and covid appears to be one that is tricky to get herd immunity with to boot... Viruses change constantly, the less chance it gets to infect the less chance it has to change.
@@NZBigfoot agreed ... how is the Herd Immunity doing for Sweden right now ... not so great from what i gather ... just sayin ... :/
What's with the cheesy, old-fashioned equipment in the background of the NZ "lab"?
@John Mann I think this whole interview was a setup to relegate New Zealand back to the 56-million-sheep days. Probably orchestrated by Ozzies. That lady was certainly on an ego trip. It has been so enjoyable driving on our roads in the last 2 weeks - no Kamikaze tourists! NZ can produce all it's own food so if everyone takes a small reduction in their standard of living and gets back to manufacturing, we will be okay.
She also a children's show educator and she uses the equipment as props when she does a show. One of her goals is to promote science to the young and get them actively involved in science. She is also recognized world wide in her field of study.
Think its a set for a childs show on youtube.. Makes sense having her explain it to americans
Dr Dickinson set up and runs New Zealand's sole nanomechanical testing lab, which conducts research into breaking extremely small materials such as cells.
She is also a senior lecturer in Chemical and Material Engineering at Auckland University, and an associate investigator at the MacDiarmid Institute for Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology.
She is also an educator and is known as nanogirl. The background is a set for her childrens education show
"That lady" as you refer to is a leading scientist and asset to the science community here in NZ, and one very smart cookie.
@@stoneman5498 Thank you, Stoneman. I wasn't aware how senior Dr Dickinson was in her field. That would explain her self-confidence which I mistook for ego. The background also fooled me as it looked like something from a "mad professor" movie. My apologies to Dr Dickinson.
Sorry you cant continue to live in a isolated bubble. NZ economy survives through tourism. GDP is in a poor state and spiraling debt. Typical Labour.
Who said we're still in a bubble? People are still working and the children have gone back to school. It's all thanks to Labour!
When National was in power, the first thing they did was put the GST tax up from 12% to 15%. No wonder everything in the supermarket is expensive... Yep. Thanks... Thanks alot 🙄
The Department of Treasury website data disagrees with that.
#FactsMatter
Maybe a fact check might be an option so you don't make such a fool of yourself with ill informed posts. Unemployment rate down to pre Covid levels, economy booming as people discover their own country, same as Australia;
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-economy-surges-out-of-recession-amid-spending-spree
Tourist's are the last thing we need,,glad NZ is in lockdown,,give our country a chance to breath,,and relax,,the tourist's and pack Packers were a curse to the countryside,, especially with the moron's using our scenery's as a toilet wherever they thought was ok,instead of the, facilities supplied,,now peace has come to our land,, AMEN 🙌
And then they dropped the ball.
Wankers
How so?
@@JesusHChrist2000 There was a "second wave" in Auckland so it has been moved to Level 3 for about a month. All good again.
well this aged pretty quick