Unrelated to this video, but I just have to thank you Doctor Mike. A woman had a heart attack outside my house, and I remembered you're adamancy on chest compressions. I kept giving her cpr till the ambulance arrived, she's alive in the hospital right now. Thanks to you, I knew how to do it properly.
Great job... caution for the future if you're not in a state that protects CPR card holders. If you save a life, but break their ribs, they can sue you. Good Samaritan laws. It's niché, but very real.
"He's a very modest man who doesn't want his name on things." Trump: "I want my name on every one of those stimulus checks so everyone who gets one, knows it came from ME!"
@@hawleygriffin1800this is great comedy and I am about as anti-Trump as one can get, but I do want to make clear that this is not an actual Trump quote. It is from a satirical New Yorker article.
Mike you do a great job of asking questions the average person wants to know the answer to, and not just accepting the answer given and continuing to have them explain why. Love this podcast, I have learned a lot and feel I can make better educated decisions for me and my family
This was a complete softball interview, Mike is intellectually arrogant and completely disregards “the other side” on a lot of these topics, and doesn’t ask tough questions when it ideologically aligns with him
He’s an excellent speaker and also he is highly competent in his field and that makes for great interviews. I’ve watched him a lot such as on a horology podcast called “this week in virology” which is on TH-cam
I'm a medical writer that works with pharma companies. I see years of research get rejected by the FDA...with lots of positive results and peer reviewed publications. It's not easy to get approved.
So nice to hear the stories from someone who's been there done that in this world, and actually knows what they're talking about. Dr Offit is a calm voice of reason in a world of agendas, attention and grifters.
@@newoioiDr Offit is a real life super hero and absolutely not a grifter . That comment is generally made r y the total ignoramuses like RFK jr and the extremely dumb people who fall for that clown bs Dr Offit’s a real life super hero and sacrificed huge amount of money to save lives and educate people. He barely made 6 million from 26 of work in vaccine that saved up to 2000 children’s day . He could just open a private cliiiv and make that much in 2 years . What if you had a brain ?
@ You could have simply asked why I called Offitt a grifter instead of writing "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment." The history of the so called "Rotavirus" you will find that childhood diarrhea has more to do with living conditions & inadequate sanitation. Dr Ruth Bishop of Melbourne hospital published a paper: Discovery of Rotavirus: Implications for child health. She observed "In the early 1900s, 100-200 of every 1000 babies born in Victoria (Australia) died before the first year of life" She attributed this diarrheal disease called summer diarrhea and observed "The death rate from gastroenteritis in young people had fallen by 1940 to 1.64/1000 live births as a result of many factors..." She futher observed "....increased hygiene in the home, availability of refrigeration and home ice-boxes, proper sewerage disposal, changes in hospital attitudes to admission and advances in treatment" These observations were made long before the intro of a vaxx. Yet instead of doing further research, it turns out she received funding from GSK & Merck! No conflict of interest there then! Turns out that a regiment of oral rehydration for infants with acute diarrhea was sufficient for 97/98 infants. The subsequent vaxx were a disaster to put it mildly and lead to infant mortality. Even though Rotashield trials only had a 5 day follow up, it passed ACIP. It was withdrawn voluntarily in 1999 by the manufacturer after the increased risk of intussusception/infant mortality when causation/correlation came to light. Thne along comes vaxx man Offitt who knows these vaxx are not needed/previous problems with them. Who cares about the history of these vaxx when you can make $$$. In this case Offitt has a shared patent on Rotateq with a grant received from Merck and has amassed up to $55 million from the super duper vaxx. No conflict of interest there then! He is more than aware of the correlation between infant health/mortality/living conditions/hygiene. Don't let previous observations and vaxx trial failure get in the way of those $$$$. He makes me sick. So do you still think I made a "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
@ @BlowsTube You could have simply asked why I referred to Offitt as a grifter instead of writing "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment." The history of the so called "Rotavirus" you will find that childhood diarrhea has more to do with living conditions & inadequate sanitation. Dr Ruth Bishop of Melbourne hospital published a paper: Discovery of Rotavirus: Implications for child health. She observed "In the early 1900s, 100-200 of every 1000 babies born in Victoria (Australia) died before the first year of life" She attributed this diarrheal disease called summer diarrhea and observed "The death rate from gastroenteritis in young people had fallen by 1940 to 1.64/1000 live births as a result of many factors..." She further observed "....increased hygiene in the home, availability of refrigeration and home ice-boxes, proper sewerage disposal, changes in hospital attitudes to admission and advances in treatment" These observations were made long before the intro of a vaxx. Yet instead of doing further research, it turns out she received funding from GSK & Merck! No conflict of interest there then! Turns out that a regiment of oral rehydration for infants with acute diarrhea was sufficient for 97/98 infants. The subsequent vaxx were a disaster to put it mildly and lead to infant mortality. Even though Rotashield trials only had a 5 day follow up, it passed ACIP. It was withdrawn voluntarily in 1999 by the manufacturer after the increased risk of intussusception/infant mortality when causation/correlation came to light. The along comes vaxx man Offitt who is more than aware knows these vaxx are not needed/previous problems with them. Who cares about the history of these vaxx when you can make $$$. In this case Offitt has a shared patent on Rotateq with a grant received from Merck and has amassed up to $55 million from the super duper vaxx. No conflict of interest there then! He is more than aware of the correlation between infant health/mortality/living conditions/hygiene. Don't let previous observations get in the way of those $$$$. He makes me sick. So do you still think I made a "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
Thank you for having these complex discussions.I really liked how you mentioned using social media analytics to shed light on better ways to communicate.
@ Firstly, I was referring to a specific video that is fully in line with evidence and matches up to modern studies, don’t know why their coverage of vegan nutrition plays a factor. Secondly I found videos about risks of meat and milk that mic covered watching both the kurzgesagt video and his response but didn’t find any directly about vegan nutrition. Yes there were mistakes made but mic the vegan also lied and made misleading cuts in certain response points. Further the milk cancer risk which was the primary focus that had basis for his refute has more recently found that dairy is ok in moderation, just like most things (dose decides the poison) and a lot of the points in the meat video were ethical refutes or had counter evidence and the ethical dispute is a personal opinion.
@@spiral-myou have to understand that many foods are not researched enough to give definite answers. You will see certain doctors making claims that are even different from what, let's say the WHO says. Who is right now? I don't know. 95% of the time, the WHO, or science as a whole. But certain stuff, we don't know yet. Let's use seed oils as an example. You see multiple american doctors with millions of followers say seed oils are very bad for you (at the same time, most of them say eating beef daily is supposed to be healthy. If you ask WHO, that is completely wrong). I have not seen a single credible news blog, video post or any social media in german talking badly about seed oils. If we look at Japan, maybe the country with the highest life expactancy, about 84 years, cooks with lots of oil, mainly seed oils like rapeseed. Only the rest of their cooking ingredients are more healthy, lets say compared to US. Though they do also have tons of processed snacks, even if Japanese people eat much less of them than Americans. You are talking about the science of vegan food. We find out new stuff regurarly. A vegan diet can, as far as I am educated, be as healthy as a meat including diet, if you know what you have to eat and what not. Even if we find out in the future that it is less healthy, most vegans aren't vegans for health reasons, so they wouldn't care too much.
I work in Quality & Regulatory for an FDA regulated industry (medical device). We have 2 separate teams to handle the FDA. We have Regulatory team to handle the premarket submission and approval and the quality team to work with the yearly QMS inspection(s) to show we are continually compliant. Its not easy to just get through for FDA approval
Doesn't change how compromised and corrupt the FDA and CDC are. Did u see the updated childhood schedule recommending mrna boosters to infants? Sickening... Then u got these propaganda bots censoring
I'm so glad that in a world full of people trying to trick people and spreading misinformation,Dr Mike is still determined to actually do good for the public and spreading knowledge and accurate information.been seeing your channel since it started ❤a huge fan who will support you to the end beyond.
So this conversation boils down to the crux of free market healthcare. It turns out you don't have to be a great salesman in healthcare because 99.99% of people want to live. The other issue is, the most intelligent people in the room also tend to be the shittiest salesmen. The other side of the coin and arguably the worst side: shiesty hucksters are really good salesmen. The gap between expert and the public is not easily bridged in any industry. Most people who use the internet have never written a line of code, most people who aren't in trades don't know building code, most people outside of healthcare don't know all the facets of good healthcare, most people outside of high performance avionics will never experience 10 vertical G's of force, etc.
1:14:31 "When you give ownership, sometimes it makes it worse" Specifically when you get negative outcomes: owning positive outcomes (while deflecting the blame for negative ones) is just what makes people feel the best possible about their lives (so if there's a situation where you can't fully deflect the blame because you know you had some agency, that just makes you feel worse about it).
Dr. Paul is a great communicator. I didn't know about short incubation period diseases and long and why some diseases like polio could be eradicated from the world but other diseases could not be but the way he described all that was so good and crystal that I now understand everything. Thanks docs (both of you) !
He's a great manipulator. Big red flag is his name calling and derogatory (anti vax) comments of those who have moved on from the outdated dogma , like Malone.
@ you mean Dr Fauci the really super hero who helped save millions of lives ? Those who call him Fraudochi do you think they are very Stu pyd or very very Stu pyd and total ignoramuses ? I have never met a Fauci critic who was not among the dumbest and the most ignorant.
Thank you for clarifying that we didn't have NO experience with mRNA. We had not had a vaccine based on it at that point. But the research into mRNA vaccines goes back decades before the COVID vaccine.
Research into coronivirus vaccines as well. Im not sure he said it here, but on some other platform he basically said that a lot of why so many covid vaccines were ready for trial so quickly, was that several Sars1 & Mers candidates were already on the shelf.
As a scientist, I love hearing Doctor Mike talk about the things he has learned about science communication. Its so valuable! We need more people like him.
I appreciated when Paul Offit was transparent about the bivalent COVID booster back in 2022. That’s why I trust him. That’s why I’m listening to this interview to better discuss childhood immunizations with an anti vax relative.
Wow super great timing for me to watch this. I just got my pregnancy blood work back and i am no longer immune to rubella or chickenpox. But what he is saying is that i might not have enough antibodies circulating but my memory cells still know how to protect me? This is very comforting since you can't be vaccinated mid pregancy.
@@Fakenapkin RFK is everything Mike has fought against in his video's against hack medicine for years. I'd have pretty strong expectations for him if he did.
Firstly love the discussion. The very first point though on preprints. I think it’s worth pointing out why preprinting is so popular. Scientists don’t put out preprint or cite preprints because they don’t want to have peer review. Preprintings main goals (in my view) relate to scientific communication and the file drawer problem. Firstly preprinting when used correctly will be done whilst the often long peer review process is being done (can be a year +) so that people can see what was found while a journal considers the papers. Then second to the drawer problem, it allows scientists to get things out that might otherwise might not see the light of day. For example if we find no effects of a treatment that is super important for everyone to know but most journals won’t see this result as interesting enough to formally publish. A final point is that a young scientist might be on a short contract. One might preprint so people (like a prospective employer) can see what work your doing and judge for themselves if it’s good (whether fully published or not).
The argument was the virus was so deadly & novel, researchers couldn’t afford to go through the usual publishing process. Hence pre print servers. But maybe we always had them?
Yeah preprints servers have existed across much of science for around 10-15 years. But as you say they do speed up science communication (like in covid). In fairness im not in covid research myself, im just saying there are lots pressures that make preprint a good option and as compared to peer review. Further preprints are often sort of ‘peer reviewed’ by the community upon release.
Preprints are great for young researchers across many fields of science to help improve their research pedigree when applying for their next program/position.
@Lamb666 it's nice how people are commenting "nice videos". But my problem is people thinking they'll get some sort of social award for commenting "first!"
@@AlphaOmega-n7u clearly not if he didn’t come down here and get rid of the disease himself. Is hr gonna remove the others so we don’t have to suffer or is that “apart of his plan” 😂
People also didn't realize that COVID also had myocarditis risk and that risk was more severe and more damaging to the heart. Yet we freaked out over the mRNA vaccine for having a rare and very light risk of it. Risk assessment is terribly poor in human behavior.
It was also about stopping the spread of it. All ages can spread it. Our hospitals were full and a modern society can't function without medical Care: for example, breaking your leg, but having to wait a week to be seen cause it's not life-threatening.
Well if you realised what you just said, think about how we needlessly put kids and young teens at risk by giving them the vaccine? They would see almost none of those heart problems and bounce back from the infection EASILY. But this vaccine was mandated WHILE keeping that myocarditis risk secret, and more than anything, it makes people feel betrayed and gaslit.
People really can't understand this for some reason. Also, mrna vaccine didn't cause blood clots. So many people say it causes blood clots or call it the clot shot.
Risk reward should be judged by the patient after they are given the information of both the risks and rewards. It’s not predetermined by the physician
It actually is and we are sometimes amazed when pt do not understand the crystal clear benefits of vaccines . When is not vaccinating not a dumb decision ? It a very dumb decision every single time . The only true contraindication is allergy . Like I said every single time. Still the pts have autonomy but thank god school requirements for vaccines prefects parents from putting their own and others (smarter parents) children at unnecessary risks.
@@JeromeBetta but as obvious most pt are like yourself , utterly uninformed and lack common sense and can’t judge risk reward. Eg when is not vaccinating not a dumb decision ? ( except for allergy ) . It is a dumb decision every single time. So when the risk rewards are this clear where is the confusion?
😂 what do you mean with "it's not predetermined by the physician?" You realize physicians are way more capable of estimating the risks based on the medical history of the patient than the patient himself? Like, most patients can't even remember the correct name of "x" medicine for his diseases and you expect them to know and understand their risks better than the physician? Jfc.... On the other hand, yes, patients should always be informed on possible risks for any procedure/treatment, which is mostly how it is done as of today.
@Ziluck no, I’m saying the physician should present the risks, the benefits, and in a conversation with the patient allow them to decide. Instead, what was hinted here is that the physician makes that judgement without involving the patient. Which let’s be honest happens in reality, I don’t think I’ve ever once gotten actual informed consent lol Like it’s not the physician who determines what the risk reward ratio is. They should present the evidence to the patient and the patient gets to decide.
@ that happens for medications . Even now we physicians allow the parents to make a choice . When a parent makes the obviously bad choice we know the parent is making a very dumb Decision not only for his child but for the children of obviously smarter parents. Should we allow the parents to abide thief children ? Good things we have school mandates and those keep the obviously dumb parents from harming their own and others children.
My problem is that the evidence i received showed me that I was not in the category where covid was a danger to me. So i didn't get the shot. The same applies to the flu shot. There is also the fact that the fda chooses the three variants of the flu virus that they think will be prevalent that year and ignore the rest.
Just because you were never smart enough to gauge risk does not mean you should covert pi de your dumbness to us. It was obviously a dumb decision non your part.
@ @ lol. See I told you that you are advertising your dumb decision. 1: even with mild Covid infection there is demonstrable brain damage on MRI . I guess it does not matter you don’t seem much up there any way right ?
@@Science-007-a Do vaccine protect you from mild infection? No ! so your argument is not a good one! Do spike protein is toxic.....Yes. From virus or vax is the protein spike the problem.
@@AlXGRGyou are among the most igno rant here. You don’t even know what’s the job of vaccine is ? It’s never ti protect variant infection it’s to protect against its complications. As proven flu vaccines lower the incidence dementia by 40 /% . You obviously are my educated on the subject but at lest learn to use your brain why pruu in be yourself so du mb) 😊
As a parent of young children, researching vaccines is so hard. Like truly trying to research and not just read propaganda. I dont have the technical skills (as referenced by Dr. Offit) to read all the research, but I also question some things in the safety studies I have read. For example, the varicella vaccine shows a decrease in post vaccination rates when it is given after age 3, but it's in the schedule for the first year. Why?
Probably due to anecdotal reasoning. In a perfect world you can give the vaccine after 3. But then are you going to keep your kid away from everyone until they’re 3? They could be exposed to the virus by siblings, at daycare, etc. Just my 2 cents :)
Omg! I got tinnitus after the vaccine! I’m glad this was mentioned. It lasted a few months and was pretty bad, got reinvigorated after the second dose. It faded but sometimes comes back if I’m stressed.
I feel you. I’ve had tinnitus for years (not Covid related) and I remember when it appeared. Drove me nuts. I still have it, it waxes and wanes, and I’ve gotten used to it.
@@takisk.7698 Good point. I'm not sure that the tinnitus I experienced after Covid is from Covid directly or maybe from the fact that I couldn't get off the couch for over a week. My specialist told me that it can be caused by many things related to nerves and neck pressure, so sleeping on the couch could very well be the thing that caused it.
the memory cells part was really reassuring. I had my immunity tested a few times for pregnancy. It was recommended I get an MMR booster before getting pregnant the first time because my antibodies were low, but 2 years after the booster during my second pregnancy I again had low antibodies for rubella. It made me really worried about wanting to get pregnant again even though rubella is pretty much non-existent where I live, bc what if low vaccination rates bring it back you know. But reassuring that those tests likely aren't looking at my memory cells and I probably still have some degree of protection to it.
I guess the only consideration is what types of immunity are transferred to children for the first few months of life. I'm not familiar but would definitely be interesting to know about.
For a medical assistant like me who vaccinated hundreds of patients with the COVID-vaccine, it was still so enlightening to listen to this conversation. How the patients’ psyche plays into risk-benefit assessment is especially fascinating to me. Thank you, Dr. Mike!
When I was in 6th grade there was a mono outbreak at school. I likely was infected with the EBV then. Only got a low grade fever and sore throat at the time. I only remembered it happened at all because we didn’t have a home phone at the time (I’m old, days of landlines only) and the school nurse had someone from the school drive me home because of the outbreak. Two years later I developed mono and have had long term health issues from EBV ever since. I’ve been diagnosed with so many different things (like Hidden Lupus) that stem from being infected by the EBV and have to be aware of potential developing MS. It’s never ending. It’s my understanding that because viruses like EBV can leave a ‘reservoir’ in one’s body, causing more issues long term. I’ve read that it’s possible C0VÏD-19 may also leave a ‘reservoir’ (that it might be the cause of long C0VïD) if so, that’s terrifying because of the scale of infections we have had. That could result in a large amount of the population having reoccurring illnesses.
Firstly, sorry you've had lingering issues from EBV infection. Secondly, I think I read somewhere that there's some lingering reservoirs of the COVID-19 virus in the body and it might be related to long covid symptoms.
27:03 "How come everybody doesn't know this?" Because most people don't listen in school, let alone biology. I learned it in 9th grade biology! A far more simple explanation, but I did! The school system isn't bad as far as what it teaches. Text books need to be updated, for sure. But the education system is broken in many other ways. It's not just here in the US, either. Other countries have failings within their own education systems. But I don't like those 'I asked people on the street' videos because they edit and cherry pick the incorrect answers. Which isn't doing any good. Heck, I'm sure the people they ask get PAID to give wrong answers often times.
I think the way Dr Paul explained that everything we eat has foreign DNA etc is the perfect example of giving a simple concise explanation that people can understand easily which debunks misinformation.
No, because ingesting something enterally is not the same as injecting something intramuscularly. Having stomach acid to denature animal/plant proteins and then having it go through numerous enzymatic processes will never compare to having these chemicals injected without any way to break it down before it reaches your bloodstream. All I'm saying is "critical thinking"...
Fantastic discussion! Big thanks to this channel for providing us with such rich information. Also random but great subtitles -- I don't know how much someone from the channel is going in to fix them but even though they're not flawless, they nailed things like medicine names and whatnot. Great stuff.
If he says anything incorrect . Also he is jot a member of FDA . When will antivaxers learn read ? Do you think if antivaxes were capable of looking up things and they could respect facts would there be any antivaxer ?
@@Sceince01Offit has been a member of the FDA VRBPAC Advisory Committee (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee) since 2018 to 2025. He previously served on an earlier advisory committee for CDC ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices). FDA VRBPAC ROSTER: Paul A. Offit, M.D. Expertise: Infectious Diseases Term: 02/01/2018 - 01/31/2025 Director Vaccine Education Center Professor of Pediatrics Division of Infectious Diseases Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia Maurice R. Hilleman Professor of Vaccinology Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104
@@jaykanta4326 - Offit is a member of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Copied from his wiki page
I've watched several of Dr Mike's long interviews with experts, and I think this is the best one thus far. I feel like I learned a lot and got explanations for some of the confusing information releases from the NIH and CDC.
I have read many books, I listened to many TH-cam videos by many of the world's leading gurus and health experts but nothing came close to the hidden herbs by anette ray. I recommend everyone giving it a read.
I appreciate the dialogue around transparency. One of the things that made me distrust our healthcare leaders during COVID was the serious lack of transparency I heard coming from them. I know in many ways it can be complicated, but people like me REALLY appreciated not feeling like we were being lied to (even if it was by omission). I felt like I was being placated like a child while listening to our public health professionals. You mix in all the misinformation out there and that is where the problems can really take hold. I’m so grateful for people like Dr Offit who takes so much time to help us understand these things better. Please don’t wrap your transparency in a nice little sellable package - just be your awesome self and tell us the truth. Thank you for this wonderful interview.
I’m a pharmacist and work in pharmacovigilance in a company and I absolutely loved this debate, the most complicated thing for me is to share my science knowledge and my company experience with those anti pharma because no matter what we talk different language. I feel science is tough to defend in this world dominated by social media, where anyone can talk and instil emotions with zero knowledge and then there is the political figures contributing to influence but they provide zero evidence. Science is fact driven and takes time, clinical data is not seen by the average person; they don’t see how many trials fail to make it and how expensive research; I don’t even debate or try to convince anyone of anything, I let it be unfortunately.
@@user-cg8if3eq7dI think people should be able to see the research as well but I will say that if you don’t have experience or knowledge of how to interpret the results and discussion then a person may draw incorrect conclusions. I’ve done a lot of research and it’s a skill to both write as well as interpret papers to analyze them for validity, reliability and proper methodology. So it’s good to have a person who is experienced in it to help people understand what’s being said sometimes.
I, for one, would love nothing more than to read through all this "clinical data", as well as the trials and research completed. I read the VIS statements and compare them to the manufacturer's information that comes in the boxes with the vials. Guess how much is left out and/or completely twisted for the general public... I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with call-dove-lit
@@erinmculp You can but you don't know which ones they are referencing. For credibility and ethics alone, those references should absolutely be cited. When you quote studies it's expected you cite your source. Try En c 🐝 👁️. Truth is truth and it's opposite is always it's opposite. Complete transparency should be an unquestionable dynamic, without it you cant provide a platform with which to afford anyone full informed consent. It's a red flag that the comment I posted keeps getting deleted. Hope you're good at puzzles. Omission of fact via censorship, if this were a relationship dynamic it would be known as a sick relationship. Manipulative, ommission of truth, deceitful, gas lighting, and yet censorship and lack of a full picture are supposed to be an acceptable dynamic over a screen? Or in a clinic setting? Any studies being referenced should be sitting out in a paper copy of JAMA or NE journal of med. so anyone can see exactly what they are signing up for. Science is science and rhetoric is rhetoric. They are not the same thing. Good luck.
@@erinmculp @erinmculp You can but you don't know which ones they are referencing. For credibility and ethics alone, those references should absolutely be cited. When you quote studies it's expected you cite your source. Try En c 🐝 👁️. Truth is truth and it's opposite is always it's opposite. Complete transparency should be an unquestionable dynamic, without it you cant provide a platform with which to afford anyone full informed consent. It's a red flag that the comment I posted keeps getting deleted. Hope you're good at puzzles. Omission of fact via censorship, if this were a relationship dynamic it would be known as a sick relationship. Manipulative, ommission of truth, deceitful, gas lighting, and yet censorship and lack of a full picture are supposed to be an acceptable dynamic over a screen? Or in a clinic setting? Any studies being referenced should be sitting out in a paper copy of JAMA or NE journal of med. so anyone can see exactly what they are signing up for. Science is science and rhetoric is rhetoric. They are not the same thing. Good luck
Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who works in manufacturing and had to implement COVID protocols and had to battle misinformation, it’s nice to be validated.
Dr. Mike, you have taught me things just from mw watch in your videos nearly everyday. You give such good information about the body and it teaches me so much, I really want to be a doctor when I’m older and you are helping me know more about the body which is helping me maybe even giving me a better chance of being a doctor. You make me laugh so much, thank you for helping me learnnn!!!!
I can listen to this expert for 20 more hours. Valuable knowledge for free! My college charges 6000 for 4 summer credits, no thank you I would like this instead!!
I wish Dr Mike would post a edited version of these, the 'shorts' are way to short, but 01:30:00 is too long for me to find time to listen to. A 30-45 minute cut would be so amazing!
Normally I'd agree, but there was such a massive amount of information in this video that short excerpts might not impart enough relevant information to make it useful.
i would sooo love to see a fresher psychiatrist on ur pod ! i’m going into trauma informed psychiatry and would love to hear some exchange of perspectives on the effectively of how psychiatric/or just general medical practices treat clients with a medical-model with less emphasis on the client-practitioner relationship as opposed to newer approaches integrating both medicic and individual-focused care. would love you hear your thoughts on practicing from a reactionary/symptom-management approach (as i’ve personally experienced growing up with US healthcare) vs a wholistic/preventative perspective (if that’s even realistic lol). hope you see this !!
Hi Mike, may we know why you did not ask the Dr what are the reasons that the rest of the world do not give Covid vaccine to 6 month olds and up, only in the US. Something to ponder. It’s important to see what other western nations recommend for the vaccines and why America is so different.
I think the answer to why was pretty clear when he talked in the video about his discussions (and disagreement I might add) with Fauci about the “high risk” vs “everyone” approach - so yeah, Dr Mike didn’t really need to re ask that question.
Great video actually made me informed on something I thought I was informed about and skeptical about and I appreciate the work they do. I like to think humanity without wealth incentives are generally good.
I'm just a layperson without any sort of medical degree and I can give you my anecdotal perspective on why I'm so willing to at least listen to some vaccine skeptics. I suffer from an autoimmune disease. The conventional medical community gives me 10 minutes of clinic time every 6 months and tries to prescribe me immune suppressing medication that has a low efficacy and a host of side effects. Meanwhile, the holistic/integrative community has given me countless resources to combat the disease with diet, supplements, and lifestyle with virtually zero side effects. The holistic community has helped me 10x more than conventional medicine in this regard, so they have gained credibility with me. And the conventional medical system (not any single doctor) continues to erode my trust more and more.....I know Dr. Offit says that we our medical knowledge improves greatly every 10 years. But why then does chronic disease, obesity, insulin resistance continue to rise? I don't believe that human gluttony and sedentary lifestyles are the only reason for this. The medical community is not providing us with the resources to help us reverse this as a society.
Well said. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence and case studies that indicate diet is very effective at addressing chronic disease. However there is no money for researchers and no big profit to be made, as there is for developing drugs
@@chrisminifie219 Anecdotal evidence is worthless and you have no clue what you're talking about. The holistic community is a bunch of useless grifters and quacks just there to make money and do NOTHING.
"I don't believe that human gluttony and sedentary lifestyles are the only reason for this" No one cares what you believe. Get scientific evidence or STFU.
I found this super informative, and some of this my med student friends or medical staff friends were also saying in the beginning. As someone who grew up as a sickkid with epilepsy of course, I've had disasters with medical problems. Though i wouldn't be here without doctors that worked hard on medications. Also, i had to have boosters on a few vaccines cause of my hospital stays, and because of that, i didn't get sick with things trying to recover from bigger issues. Nurses, doctors, and techs are the majority amazing people and to see people not trust the professionals that dedicated their life to save ours makes me sad. It's healthy to have questions or concerns, but listen to the answers carefully and wven a second opinion is fine. Though if two or 3 professionals tell you the same thing, be open to learning n correction. Thanks doctor mike for such a great video ❤
There are Medical Boards for all 50 US States and they regularly advise members of Congress. On a federal level there is the NIH, National Institutes of Health, which consist of 27 different institutes, the most notable being National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which Dr. Fauci was the head of from 1984-2022. Absolutely none of this matters to Republican politicians who consistently deny the medical science advised to them by their own medical boards and the 27 different institutes of the NIH. Republicans don't care about public health, they care about maintaining their power by keep Americans divided.
@@genetg6834 It would be nice in theory but would end the long standing precedent in the US that Congress and Congress alone is the lawmaking body of the Federal Government. I think it would be better if we instead had members of Congress who respected education, medical science, and expertise and understood it enough to write laws correctly instead of using their ignorance as an excuse..
@@high_tower_jordan5444 well with the overturning of chevron,it’s going to be easier and easier to ignore the experts,people wrongfully assume that education is prestiges and that scientists and doctors are part of the 1% and not literally part of the general public.
They aren't. However in our litigious society they wouldn't be able to afford to make anything. Folks want a world without danger, unfortunately that isn't this world.
@@maryannteal2209 which one is it? Are they given blanket immunity for vaccines like the Covid one or not? We supplement these companies with hundreds of billions of dollars, if they can't do that safely enough and still make a profit what are we even doing?
@@maryannteal2209 In the Pfizer documents which leaked, part of the deal for giving countries vaccines was that they would be granted civil immunity. They were granted civil immunity.
@@maryannteal2209yes they do- Yes, vaccine manufacturers in the United States have certain legal protections from liability under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 and the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act of 2005
Thrilled as a layperson to have the wonderful Dr. Offit explaining the current status of Covid vaccination for us semi educated lay persons. Thank you for this excellent service.
It beggars belief when he denies that pharmaceutical companies don’t manipulate data, or that profit can and will influence what data is suppressed and what data is released, or that lobbying doesn’t have any effect. Of course these things happen, they will always happen. What we don’t have is sufficient independent oversight to effectively deal with it when they do
lol . Why are hundreds of independent studies congruent with the pharma ? The knowledge dies not come from pharna it comes from the academia . At least learn about the processes before posting as when you are so wrong you make yourself look completely ignorant .
@@Sceince01 You seem unaware of how much money passes between pharma companies and the universities which conduct much of the research & clinical trials for their products. Or you are well-aware of this financial conflict of interest, and you are lying & being rude in the comments.
@@Sceince01 I still can’t believe you called this person ignorant while not being aware of how universities get their research funding. I guess I should not expect much given your misspelled username. I assume you’re just a troll, but lord help us if you aren’t.
They said natural immunity was no good because they didn’t know how long it would last. That might be true, but you also don’t know how long the shots will last!? The shots were rushed through trials so there was no time to check how long they’d last. Hence, natural immunity should have been seen as equally as protective, if not superior to the EUA products. (This has since been proven true; natural immunity was superior.) They spoke so confidently to use back then. Told us we were bad people if we had Christmas with unvaccinated family members. Yet now they will admit they were “moving at the speed of science”. Or “building the plane as we were flying it” which is a damning admission from the top v. developer. They deserve to never be trusted ever again.
@@MK-ih6wp Hmm. 1. Take vaccine with incredibly low chance of any negative affects. Vs. 2. Catch the disease that's killed millions around the world and roll the dice whether you'll not only kick the bucket but then spread it to your loved ones. Quite a tough decision
@@MK-ih6wp My comment here isn't in relation to the COVID vaccine, but I know that my MMR didn't last. I had MMR as a child (so in the late 70s / early 80s). When I was pregnant with my first (early 2000s) I no longer had any immunity to Rubella. There are people who NEVER get immunity from vaccines (seroconversion) but I also know I am not one of those as I was given the vaccine before my second pregnancy and my titers after that DID show immunity. This was 17 years ago now though and I have no idea if my titers would show any immunity any more. And that's the issue. We just don't know. There are staunch vaccine advocates out there who probably need another MMR if they really want to be 'protected', but they don't know that.
To the point regarding “well kids are exposed to way more antigens”. Yes but it is a natural process and it stimulates the immune system differently than injecting them. Also, we don’t create antibodies to 4 different diseases at one time typically in the natural progression of it
No it’s not any different . Can you please highlight the differences in the immune process on molecular when immunity is attained from vaccine vs bug. The world class immunology experts call the immunity obtained from bugs the survivors natural immunity and the immunity from vaccines natural . True a child is not exposed to JUST 4 or 6 antigens via vaccine but actually 2000 antigens on average every single day . Keep your nonsense to yourself. Read and learn.
Is it that different though? Yes, the place where the foreign body enters the body is different (through nose/mouth vs skin/muscle of arm). I can totally see that it feels different, but why would the body react differently to a foreign body in one place or the other? What evidence do we have the body reacts differently, and what would count as "different"? Less antibodies? Less histamine response or something else?
Do you think that our immunsystem fights one Virus and bakteria after the other? Our body is constantly fighting against all kinds of deseases simultaniously. 24/7. So a vaccine against 4 different deseases with weakened or dead viruses is nothing a healthy body can not handle.
@@JeromeBetta there is no difference . Also in your extreme dishonesty you just assumed that we do not produce antibodies to 4 different diseases at the same time and posted it there as a fact ? No shame ? No respect for facts ? Children are exposed to 2000 to 6000 antigens every single day and we do produce antibodies to most .
@@JeromeBetta can you highlight the differences in the natural immune response from vaccine vs natural survivors immune response to much more harmful virus on molecular level ? Let’s see
It’s completely rational for people to be skeptical of something that isn’t natural, being injected into their body and is being engineered by people they don’t know who have a fiduciary obligation to the shareholders of an incredibly wealthy and powerful industry. People who call these people names for simply asking questions are borderline cultists. Glad they started the video by acknowledging these people are not crazy science deniers and have legitimate concerns.
@@TehDubster Not all of them are. One of the concerns are adverse reactions to vaccines which are demonstrably true. Also, another valid concern is whether or not the people administering the vaccine are correctly trained (more relevant during the pandemic or in areas with less access to medical treatment) and know what to do in the event of a vaccine reaction. That doesn't mean I agree with many of the arguments the anti-vaxx movement use (largely because they're unsupported by accurate information), I just object to the false equivalence of 'I have concerns about vaccines' and 'all vaccines are evil'.
@@TehDubster Dude, there is a huge difference between someone who has questions and/or concerns and someone who straight up doesn’t believe in them. If you honestly believe there are zero reasons to be concerned or ask questions then you’re not reading the same studies you’re confidently touting about and you’re the one being ignorant. If you think that all vax’s are 100% safe and have zero short term or long term adverse reactions, you’re not participating in reality.
@@TehDubster “Their concerns are unfounded” is just objectively false. The studies literally show the possibility of short term and long term adverse reactions as well as fatal reactions. This is the cult like rhetoric I’m talking about! And you’re talking about being ignorant? LOL
From what I’ve seen and discussed with people, the modern concern around general vaccinations revolves around the quantity and frequency of injections, particularly with younger children. Also, there’s still abundant skepticism around mRNA technology, and whether some of the widespread health issues countries are dealing with post-pandemic are causally linked to adverse effects, or whether these simply correlate and the mechanisms that make mRNA vaccines work are largely safe. I personally feel like it’s okay and important to discuss these topics openly, especially when adding in the context of how diseases in the past ravaged entire populations. Meeting skepticism with censorship or questions with insults isn’t the best way forward. Conversations like these could go a long way in advancing public awareness and understanding.
@@FunderDuck your first concern was covered. Not sure you watched or payed attention to that part. Today’s childhood vaccines schedule contains less ingredients and covers more than any previous schedule.
@ yes, I watched the full video. And my comment was more to present common criticisms rather than my personal views. It was great to see Doctor Mike articulate the common questions and concerns some people have around this topic. There is a world of difference between acknowledging someone’s question and then providing a response, as opposed to brushing off the concern entirely as dumb or dangerous. I think many academics would prefer it if everyone in society just outright trusted their professional positions. However, with the collapse of institutional trust largely driven by the pandemic, rebuilding that trust and general public education on important topics sometimes requires going back to basics.
@@FunderDuck The criticisms are NOT valid though. You're implying that the negativity is based in intellect and logic. No it's based on conspiracy theories, lunatics and people trying to make money/promote their own ideas. If you don't believe that. the fact that discussions still occur about the earth being flat is proof.
@@justindwight5457to expand on what the original poster said other developed nations do vaccinations differently. All developed nations seem to do things a little differently. That’s doesn’t really instill confidence in medical institutions for most people. You’d think they’d have more consensus
@ why does it though? Nothing any of the agencies do goes outside of labeling. Labeling that is driven by data. Sounds more like people digging for excuses where none should exist, nor have they taken the time to actually educate themselves (regurgitating what they’ve heard without actually knowing how to read data especially with zero understanding of terminology isn’t educating). My point is antivaxx trope is always ignorant of nuance, gishgallup that leads laypersons down a path of Dunning-Kruger.
Sure, just learn how to read the research yourself. Learn how to evaluate research, learn how to be a scientist. Go ahead. I've done it, why don't you? The research is excellent.
The fact that 70% of this man's salary at FDA is paid for by the pharmaceutical industry is... pretty tough for me. Also two zoonotic spillovers at the exact same market at the exact same time doc? Former CDC director Robert Redfield and US House Subcommittee on Covid both disagree with you there.
@@ronalddepesa6221 he is trying to warn you that you’re listening to an extended sales pitch from a pharma medical man, disguised as a podcast about “public health”.
Last July, CBS News investigated allegations of conflicts of interest among "independent" experts who comment on vaccine safety, and the companies that manufacture vaccines. One widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety, Dr. Paul Offit of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, was mentioned in the report in connection to his anti-diarrhea vaccine Rotateq, which he helped develop with Merck.
someones background and conflict of interest is enough to be suspicious, but If everything he's said is backed up and his logic is sound thats not enough to discredit him. He's not just saying "trust me i'm qualified" he's actually walking through the logic and citing evidence. You would be better off addressing the meat of his arguments instead of him as a person. If the most corrupt, shady, greedy person in the world tells you the sky is blue, it can still be true.
@ I can confidently say that you made a very poor decision for your child and you put your child and others smarter parents children at risk. Should your child suffer just because of your obvious ignorance ?
@Sceince01 Dr Offit directly benefits for each vaccine that is given. He is on the Merck board. His motive is profit, not well-being. I doubt you understand much in the way of science even with your TH-cam tag. I have personally worked in a lab with the C19 virus and understood Coronaviruses 20 years ago
This seems amazing for anyone who never read any research in the scientific journals and actual data from the vaccination rollout from different countries. Where did the skepticism disappear?
Unrelated to this video, but I just have to thank you Doctor Mike.
A woman had a heart attack outside my house, and I remembered you're adamancy on chest compressions. I kept giving her cpr till the ambulance arrived, she's alive in the hospital right now.
Thanks to you, I knew how to do it properly.
Congratulations for saving a life. That must feel amazing.
Bravo 🤝🏼
This makes my paramedic heart so happy. Great job! I'm so proud of you! ❤
Oh that’s wonderful!! ❤
Great job... caution for the future if you're not in a state that protects CPR card holders. If you save a life, but break their ribs, they can sue you. Good Samaritan laws. It's niché, but very real.
"Eh, I've seen his name pop up in New York City a few times"
absolutely perfect
Hilarious lmao
"He's a very modest man who doesn't want his name on things."
Trump: "I want my name on every one of those stimulus checks so everyone who gets one, knows it came from ME!"
He wasn't serious when he said that, right? @@hawleygriffin1800
@@hawleygriffin1800this is great comedy and I am about as anti-Trump as one can get, but I do want to make clear that this is not an actual Trump quote. It is from a satirical New Yorker article.
@@hawleygriffin1800 but yes, the idea that Trump is modest is delusional
Mike you do a great job of asking questions the average person wants to know the answer to, and not just accepting the answer given and continuing to have them explain why. Love this podcast, I have learned a lot and feel I can make better educated decisions for me and my family
He’s one of the best, if not best, educators on TH-cam in the medical field that does that. And he gives pushback respectfully.
Nah he's an establishment mouth piece
@@constipatedcow22the establishment is mostly right, so. You know. Trained experts end up being “establishment mouthpieces”.
This was a complete softball interview, Mike is intellectually arrogant and completely disregards “the other side” on a lot of these topics, and doesn’t ask tough questions when it ideologically aligns with him
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Dr. Offit is remarkably articulate and calm. Probably does the best job of answering questions about vaccines of any expert/ researcher I've seen.
He’s an excellent speaker and also he is highly competent in his field and that makes for great interviews. I’ve watched him a lot such as on a horology podcast called “this week in virology” which is on TH-cam
I'm a medical writer that works with pharma companies. I see years of research get rejected by the FDA...with lots of positive results and peer reviewed publications. It's not easy to get approved.
It would be much easier to get approval if your product was exempt by law from liability like shots are.
It’s all about who has the most money, who gets approved
Except for emergency use authorization
yet things like oxy get through
You should tell Purdue Pharma that, I feel like they’d disagree.
So nice to hear the stories from someone who's been there done that in this world, and actually knows what they're talking about. Dr Offit is a calm voice of reason in a world of agendas, attention and grifters.
Absolute bs. Ironic you call out grifters tbh.
@@newoioiDr Offit is a real life super hero and absolutely not a grifter . That comment is generally made r y the total ignoramuses like RFK jr and the extremely dumb people who fall for that clown bs
Dr Offit’s a real life super hero and sacrificed huge amount of money to save lives and educate people. He barely made 6 million from 26 of work in vaccine that saved up to 2000 children’s day . He could just open a private cliiiv and make that much in 2 years . What if you had a brain ?
@@newoioiWhat a weak comment. Define grifter for us and then show us where Offit is guilty of this. Such a delusional comment.
@ You could have simply asked why I called Offitt a grifter instead of writing "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
The history of the so called "Rotavirus" you will find that childhood diarrhea has more to do with living conditions & inadequate sanitation.
Dr Ruth Bishop of Melbourne hospital published a paper: Discovery of Rotavirus: Implications for child health.
She observed "In the early 1900s, 100-200 of every 1000 babies born in Victoria (Australia) died before the first year of life"
She attributed this diarrheal disease called summer diarrhea and observed "The death rate from gastroenteritis in young people had fallen by 1940 to 1.64/1000 live births as a result of many factors..."
She futher observed
"....increased hygiene in the home, availability of refrigeration and home ice-boxes, proper sewerage disposal, changes in hospital attitudes to admission and advances in treatment"
These observations were made long before the intro of a vaxx.
Yet instead of doing further research, it turns out she received funding from GSK & Merck!
No conflict of interest there then!
Turns out that a regiment of oral rehydration for infants with acute diarrhea was sufficient for 97/98 infants.
The subsequent vaxx were a disaster to put it mildly and lead to infant mortality.
Even though Rotashield trials only had a 5 day follow up, it passed ACIP. It was withdrawn voluntarily in 1999 by the manufacturer after the increased risk of intussusception/infant mortality when causation/correlation came to light.
Thne along comes vaxx man Offitt who knows these vaxx are not needed/previous problems with them.
Who cares about the history of these vaxx when you can make $$$. In this case Offitt has a shared patent on Rotateq with a grant received from Merck and has amassed up to $55 million from the super duper vaxx.
No conflict of interest there then!
He is more than aware of the correlation between infant health/mortality/living conditions/hygiene.
Don't let previous observations and vaxx trial failure get in the way of those $$$$.
He makes me sick.
So do you still think I made a "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
@ @BlowsTube You could have simply asked why I referred to Offitt as a grifter instead of writing "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
The history of the so called "Rotavirus" you will find that childhood diarrhea has more to do with living conditions & inadequate sanitation.
Dr Ruth Bishop of Melbourne hospital published a paper: Discovery of Rotavirus: Implications for child health.
She observed "In the early 1900s, 100-200 of every 1000 babies born in Victoria (Australia) died before the first year of life"
She attributed this diarrheal disease called summer diarrhea and observed "The death rate from gastroenteritis in young people had fallen by 1940 to 1.64/1000 live births as a result of many factors..."
She further observed
"....increased hygiene in the home, availability of refrigeration and home ice-boxes, proper sewerage disposal, changes in hospital attitudes to admission and advances in treatment"
These observations were made long before the intro of a vaxx.
Yet instead of doing further research, it turns out she received funding from GSK & Merck!
No conflict of interest there then!
Turns out that a regiment of oral rehydration for infants with acute diarrhea was sufficient for 97/98 infants.
The subsequent vaxx were a disaster to put it mildly and lead to infant mortality.
Even though Rotashield trials only had a 5 day follow up, it passed ACIP. It was withdrawn voluntarily in 1999 by the manufacturer after the increased risk of intussusception/infant mortality when causation/correlation came to light.
The along comes vaxx man Offitt who is more than aware knows these vaxx are not needed/previous problems with them.
Who cares about the history of these vaxx when you can make $$$. In this case Offitt has a shared patent on Rotateq with a grant received from Merck and has amassed up to $55 million from the super duper vaxx.
No conflict of interest there then!
He is more than aware of the correlation between infant health/mortality/living conditions/hygiene.
Don't let previous observations get in the way of those $$$$.
He makes me sick.
So do you still think I made a "Weak comment" and "Such a delusional comment."
Thank you for having these complex discussions.I really liked how you mentioned using social media analytics to shed light on better ways to communicate.
Kurzgesagt did a really good video about investigating odds of vaccines not downplaying risks, but at the same time presenting easy to digest facts
They also get stuff wrong - see mic the vegan and their coverage of vegan nutrition
@ Firstly, I was referring to a specific video that is fully in line with evidence and matches up to modern studies, don’t know why their coverage of vegan nutrition plays a factor. Secondly I found videos about risks of meat and milk that mic covered watching both the kurzgesagt video and his response but didn’t find any directly about vegan nutrition. Yes there were mistakes made but mic the vegan also lied and made misleading cuts in certain response points. Further the milk cancer risk which was the primary focus that had basis for his refute has more recently found that dairy is ok in moderation, just like most things (dose decides the poison) and a lot of the points in the meat video were ethical refutes or had counter evidence and the ethical dispute is a personal opinion.
@@spiral-myou have to understand that many foods are not researched enough to give definite answers. You will see certain doctors making claims that are even different from what, let's say the WHO says. Who is right now? I don't know. 95% of the time, the WHO, or science as a whole. But certain stuff, we don't know yet.
Let's use seed oils as an example. You see multiple american doctors with millions of followers say seed oils are very bad for you (at the same time, most of them say eating beef daily is supposed to be healthy. If you ask WHO, that is completely wrong). I have not seen a single credible news blog, video post or any social media in german talking badly about seed oils. If we look at Japan, maybe the country with the highest life expactancy, about 84 years, cooks with lots of oil, mainly seed oils like rapeseed. Only the rest of their cooking ingredients are more healthy, lets say compared to US. Though they do also have tons of processed snacks, even if Japanese people eat much less of them than Americans.
You are talking about the science of vegan food. We find out new stuff regurarly. A vegan diet can, as far as I am educated, be as healthy as a meat including diet, if you know what you have to eat and what not. Even if we find out in the future that it is less healthy, most vegans aren't vegans for health reasons, so they wouldn't care too much.
@@spiral-m cry about it
@@Xterminator9876only one side!!
I work in Quality & Regulatory for an FDA regulated industry (medical device). We have 2 separate teams to handle the FDA. We have Regulatory team to handle the premarket submission and approval and the quality team to work with the yearly QMS inspection(s) to show we are continually compliant. Its not easy to just get through for FDA approval
Doesn't change how compromised and corrupt the FDA and CDC are. Did u see the updated childhood schedule recommending mrna boosters to infants? Sickening... Then u got these propaganda bots censoring
It's not easy that's why emergency use authorization was used
Why are my comments instantly censored
FDA/CDC has mRNA on childhood schedule. That's malicious
@@constipatedcow22How is that malicious??
I'm so glad that in a world full of people trying to trick people and spreading misinformation,Dr Mike is still determined to actually do good for the public and spreading knowledge and accurate information.been seeing your channel since it started ❤a huge fan who will support you to the end beyond.
you're brainwashed
@@Berp-j2fI I use Tide detergent to wash my 🧠
Dr. Mike's a propaganda boy. Propped up by the establishment. Everything about vaccine science is a sham
Hell yeah!
@@Darwin_is_my_copilot lol
So this conversation boils down to the crux of free market healthcare. It turns out you don't have to be a great salesman in healthcare because 99.99% of people want to live. The other issue is, the most intelligent people in the room also tend to be the shittiest salesmen. The other side of the coin and arguably the worst side: shiesty hucksters are really good salesmen. The gap between expert and the public is not easily bridged in any industry. Most people who use the internet have never written a line of code, most people who aren't in trades don't know building code, most people outside of healthcare don't know all the facets of good healthcare, most people outside of high performance avionics will never experience 10 vertical G's of force, etc.
Mike you're the one who inspired me to want to become a doctor I'm 13 and I know this is what I want to do
You're
@@BestLifeMD wild lol
@@BestLifeMDlmfao he actually corrected it
@villain6634 That's pretty good though. Could've went the usual way the internet is where they argued for the next 2 days over it haha
Who wants to meet up at my house
I really love how focused dr offit was while dr Mike was explaining communication. It was super interesting and seems like he will internalize it.
Absolutely, you could almost see the gears in his head turning while he was internalizing what Dr. Mike said!
He’s a scientist!!! He wants to learn and change as he knows more. I absolutely loved listening to this.
I loved that about him. He recognized it as a learning g opportunity, which it was. Lifelong learner mindset keeps you fresh in the head
1:14:31 "When you give ownership, sometimes it makes it worse" Specifically when you get negative outcomes: owning positive outcomes (while deflecting the blame for negative ones) is just what makes people feel the best possible about their lives (so if there's a situation where you can't fully deflect the blame because you know you had some agency, that just makes you feel worse about it).
Dr. Paul is a great communicator. I didn't know about short incubation period diseases and long and why some diseases like polio could be eradicated from the world but other diseases could not be but the way he described all that was so good and crystal that I now understand everything. Thanks docs (both of you) !
He's a great manipulator. Big red flag is his name calling and derogatory (anti vax) comments of those who have moved on from the outdated dogma , like Malone.
@@oliviad6713 Just like Fraudchi calling those opposed to him the very scientific term "whack jobs".
@@oliviad6713 So what sort of virology degree do you have
@ you mean Dr Fauci the really super hero who helped save millions of lives ? Those who call him Fraudochi do you think they are very Stu pyd or very very Stu pyd and total ignoramuses ? I have never met a Fauci critic who was not among the dumbest and the most ignorant.
@@holokyttaja5476 olivia has a degree in ignorance and inability to think for herself .
Thank you for clarifying that we didn't have NO experience with mRNA. We had not had a vaccine based on it at that point. But the research into mRNA vaccines goes back decades before the COVID vaccine.
lol you people are so weird
Read Katalin Kariko’s autobiography. She discusses this in depth!
@@MNP208 youre brainwashed
Research into coronivirus vaccines as well. Im not sure he said it here, but on some other platform he basically said that a lot of why so many covid vaccines were ready for trial so quickly, was that several Sars1 & Mers candidates were already on the shelf.
@@jasoninflagstaff you people will buy anything huh
As a scientist, I love hearing Doctor Mike talk about the things he has learned about science communication. Its so valuable! We need more people like him.
And as a scientist you'll of course call out "virology"....won't you?
@@newoioi What does that even mean?
I appreciated when Paul Offit was transparent about the bivalent COVID booster back in 2022. That’s why I trust him. That’s why I’m listening to this interview to better discuss childhood immunizations with an anti vax relative.
Wow super great timing for me to watch this. I just got my pregnancy blood work back and i am no longer immune to rubella or chickenpox. But what he is saying is that i might not have enough antibodies circulating but my memory cells still know how to protect me? This is very comforting since you can't be vaccinated mid pregancy.
Memory T cells are our immune system's silent heros
DOCTOR MIKE!!! The video where u said that u would die your hair got more than 330k likes!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER!!
Bump
@ huh?
Dye
Still nowhere near 330k likes.
Reliable health information saves lives. PERIOD. Thanks for providing this type of platform Dr Mike ❤️
Is there any health information in the bible? Other than how to have abortions.
"Reliable" being the keyword here lol
I think Dr Mike would go too easy on RFK. I would like more pushback from dr Mike then he gave on Dr Gundry’s interview
@@Fakenapkin RFK is everything Mike has fought against in his video's against hack medicine for years. I'd have pretty strong expectations for him if he did.
@@danholmesfilm ok buddy you got your 2c in. feel better now?
Honesty breeds credibility.
If I could "like" this video 3 times, I would! Two amazing science communicators in one conversation 🎉
I’d watch this 5 time and share it all my friends including the idiots who hated the vaccine.
Firstly love the discussion. The very first point though on preprints.
I think it’s worth pointing out why preprinting is so popular.
Scientists don’t put out preprint or cite preprints because they don’t want to have peer review. Preprintings main goals (in my view) relate to scientific communication and the file drawer problem. Firstly preprinting when used correctly will be done whilst the often long peer review process is being done (can be a year +) so that people can see what was found while a journal considers the papers. Then second to the drawer problem, it allows scientists to get things out that might otherwise might not see the light of day. For example if we find no effects of a treatment that is super important for everyone to know but most journals won’t see this result as interesting enough to formally publish.
A final point is that a young scientist might be on a short contract. One might preprint so people (like a prospective employer) can see what work your doing and judge for themselves if it’s good (whether fully published or not).
Did we have preprints before COVID? That was when I first started paying attention.
The argument was the virus was so deadly & novel, researchers couldn’t afford to go through the usual publishing process. Hence pre print servers.
But maybe we always had them?
Yeah preprints servers have existed across much of science for around 10-15 years.
But as you say they do speed up science communication (like in covid).
In fairness im not in covid research myself, im just saying there are lots pressures that make preprint a good option and as compared to peer review. Further preprints are often sort of ‘peer reviewed’ by the community upon release.
Preprints are great for young researchers across many fields of science to help improve their research pedigree when applying for their next program/position.
Why do people start commenting as if they've watched the whole video 🫤
Edit: ironically this comment has the most likes 🫠
Stupid people think things need to fall under a single category. You don’t need to watch an entire video to write a comment.
bots
I don't see any comments like that mate, it's been 3 mins since upload.
@vixguy reload the page
@Lamb666 it's nice how people are commenting "nice videos". But my problem is people thinking they'll get some sort of social award for commenting "first!"
I 🙏🏼💗 appreciate vaccines I was bit by a rabid cat at 4yrs old and a vaccine saved my life!
That's not how vaccines work.
Only Jesus saves .
@AlphaOmega-n7u I think you meant to say only science saves lol
@@AlphaOmega-n7u clearly not if he didn’t come down here and get rid of the disease himself. Is hr gonna remove the others so we don’t have to suffer or is that “apart of his plan” 😂
@@AlphaOmega-n7u wrong
People also didn't realize that COVID also had myocarditis risk and that risk was more severe and more damaging to the heart. Yet we freaked out over the mRNA vaccine for having a rare and very light risk of it. Risk assessment is terribly poor in human behavior.
It was also about stopping the spread of it. All ages can spread it.
Our hospitals were full and a modern society can't function without medical Care: for example, breaking your leg, but having to wait a week to be seen cause it's not life-threatening.
That's all nice OP only if you haven't pulled those stats off your bum
Well if you realised what you just said, think about how we needlessly put kids and young teens at risk by giving them the vaccine? They would see almost none of those heart problems and bounce back from the infection EASILY. But this vaccine was mandated WHILE keeping that myocarditis risk secret, and more than anything, it makes people feel betrayed and gaslit.
People really can't understand this for some reason. Also, mrna vaccine didn't cause blood clots. So many people say it causes blood clots or call it the clot shot.
Tore my family apart, I got the Vax and my family said I would shed it to them so they said goodbye
Risk reward should be judged by the patient after they are given the information of both the risks and rewards. It’s not predetermined by the physician
It actually is and we are sometimes amazed when pt do not understand the crystal clear benefits of vaccines . When is not vaccinating not a dumb decision ? It a very dumb decision every single time . The only true contraindication is allergy . Like I said every single time. Still the pts have autonomy but thank god school requirements for vaccines prefects parents from putting their own and others (smarter parents) children at unnecessary risks.
@@JeromeBetta but as obvious most pt are like yourself , utterly uninformed and lack common sense and can’t judge risk reward. Eg when is not vaccinating not a dumb decision ? ( except for allergy ) . It is a dumb decision every single time. So when the risk rewards are this clear where is the confusion?
😂 what do you mean with "it's not predetermined by the physician?" You realize physicians are way more capable of estimating the risks based on the medical history of the patient than the patient himself? Like, most patients can't even remember the correct name of "x" medicine for his diseases and you expect them to know and understand their risks better than the physician? Jfc.... On the other hand, yes, patients should always be informed on possible risks for any procedure/treatment, which is mostly how it is done as of today.
@Ziluck no, I’m saying the physician should present the risks, the benefits, and in a conversation with the patient allow them to decide. Instead, what was hinted here is that the physician makes that judgement without involving the patient. Which let’s be honest happens in reality, I don’t think I’ve ever once gotten actual informed consent lol
Like it’s not the physician who determines what the risk reward ratio is. They should present the evidence to the patient and the patient gets to decide.
@ that happens for medications . Even now we physicians allow the parents to make a choice . When a parent makes the obviously bad choice we know the parent is making a very dumb Decision not only for his child but for the children of obviously smarter parents. Should we allow the parents to abide thief children ? Good things we have school mandates and those keep the obviously dumb parents from harming their own and others children.
Science educators like Doctor Mike are absolutely critical in our world of information overload.
The guy is asking question, 4 years too late but at least he is asking questions now that the Biden Regis leaving power.
My problem is that the evidence i received showed me that I was not in the category where covid was a danger to me. So i didn't get the shot. The same applies to the flu shot. There is also the fact that the fda chooses the three variants of the flu virus that they think will be prevalent that year and ignore the rest.
Just because you were never smart enough to gauge risk does not mean you should covert pi de your dumbness to us. It was obviously a dumb decision non your part.
@Science-007-a I haven't had the flu since I was a kid. I'm not suffering the ill effect of the COVID shot
@ @ lol. See I told you that you are advertising your dumb decision.
1: even with mild Covid infection there is demonstrable brain damage on MRI . I guess it does not matter you don’t seem much up there any way right ?
@@Science-007-a Do vaccine protect you from mild infection? No ! so your argument is not a good one! Do spike protein is toxic.....Yes. From virus or vax is the protein spike the problem.
@@AlXGRGyou are among the most igno rant here. You don’t even know what’s the job of vaccine is ? It’s never ti protect variant infection it’s to protect against its complications. As proven flu vaccines lower the incidence dementia by 40 /% . You obviously are my educated on the subject but at lest learn to use your brain why pruu in be yourself so du mb) 😊
As a parent of young children, researching vaccines is so hard. Like truly trying to research and not just read propaganda. I dont have the technical skills (as referenced by Dr. Offit) to read all the research, but I also question some things in the safety studies I have read. For example, the varicella vaccine shows a decrease in post vaccination rates when it is given after age 3, but it's in the schedule for the first year. Why?
Ask for the pamphlets for all and weigh your decisions
Probably due to anecdotal reasoning. In a perfect world you can give the vaccine after 3. But then are you going to keep your kid away from everyone until they’re 3? They could be exposed to the virus by siblings, at daycare, etc. Just my 2 cents :)
Why do pharmaceutical companies spend so much money on lobbying congress?
Why is there no liability for the products we inject to day 1 infants?
Because they get a massive return on investment? Senators are the cheapest product a company can buy.
@@MK-ih6wp they dont die, that's your liability
every company does that. This is an issue with capitalism not Vaccines
@@MK-ih6wp those save lives. Plenty of research and testing has been used in this, and they have saved thousands of babies everyday
This was a well-communicated video with two professionals. Love it!
Omg! I got tinnitus after the vaccine! I’m glad this was mentioned. It lasted a few months and was pretty bad, got reinvigorated after the second dose. It faded but sometimes comes back if I’m stressed.
At the end of the day, I wonder if COVID itself would make tinnitus even worse (?)
@@gollymorgansmalley
It does. I had severe tinnitus after Covid.
I feel you. I’ve had tinnitus for years (not Covid related) and I remember when it appeared. Drove me nuts. I still have it, it waxes and wanes, and I’ve gotten used to it.
got tinnitus a year before the vaccine.. my question is how can you rule out a coincidence in your case :/
@@takisk.7698
Good point. I'm not sure that the tinnitus I experienced after Covid is from Covid directly or maybe from the fact that I couldn't get off the couch for over a week. My specialist told me that it can be caused by many things related to nerves and neck pressure, so sleeping on the couch could very well be the thing that caused it.
the memory cells part was really reassuring. I had my immunity tested a few times for pregnancy. It was recommended I get an MMR booster before getting pregnant the first time because my antibodies were low, but 2 years after the booster during my second pregnancy I again had low antibodies for rubella. It made me really worried about wanting to get pregnant again even though rubella is pretty much non-existent where I live, bc what if low vaccination rates bring it back you know. But reassuring that those tests likely aren't looking at my memory cells and I probably still have some degree of protection to it.
That's actually very common
I guess the only consideration is what types of immunity are transferred to children for the first few months of life. I'm not familiar but would definitely be interesting to know about.
For a medical assistant like me who vaccinated hundreds of patients with the COVID-vaccine, it was still so enlightening to listen to this conversation. How the patients’ psyche plays into risk-benefit assessment is especially fascinating to me. Thank you, Dr. Mike!
When I was in 6th grade there was a mono outbreak at school. I likely was infected with the EBV then. Only got a low grade fever and sore throat at the time. I only remembered it happened at all because we didn’t have a home phone at the time (I’m old, days of landlines only) and the school nurse had someone from the school drive me home because of the outbreak. Two years later I developed mono and have had long term health issues from EBV ever since. I’ve been diagnosed with so many different things (like Hidden Lupus) that stem from being infected by the EBV and have to be aware of potential developing MS. It’s never ending. It’s my understanding that because viruses like EBV can leave a ‘reservoir’ in one’s body, causing more issues long term.
I’ve read that it’s possible C0VÏD-19 may also leave a ‘reservoir’ (that it might be the cause of long C0VïD) if so, that’s terrifying because of the scale of infections we have had. That could result in a large amount of the population having reoccurring illnesses.
Firstly, sorry you've had lingering issues from EBV infection. Secondly, I think I read somewhere that there's some lingering reservoirs of the COVID-19 virus in the body and it might be related to long covid symptoms.
Great job on this! Really appreciate the effort you put into it. Keep it up!
27:03 "How come everybody doesn't know this?" Because most people don't listen in school, let alone biology. I learned it in 9th grade biology! A far more simple explanation, but I did! The school system isn't bad as far as what it teaches. Text books need to be updated, for sure. But the education system is broken in many other ways. It's not just here in the US, either. Other countries have failings within their own education systems. But I don't like those 'I asked people on the street' videos because they edit and cherry pick the incorrect answers. Which isn't doing any good. Heck, I'm sure the people they ask get PAID to give wrong answers often times.
1:06:26 I think the National Society for the Defence of Heavy Metal sounds awesome but that might just be because I'm a music guy.
ahh, mercury: sweetest of the transition metals
Thank you for posting, great information. I'm so glad you had him on.
Boy what I would give to know what these guys know. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
He was working on a vaccine for 25 plus years, but they want us to take a vaccine that they made in 6 months.😢😢😢😢😢
I think the way Dr Paul explained that everything we eat has foreign DNA etc is the perfect example of giving a simple concise explanation that people can understand easily which debunks misinformation.
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No, because ingesting something enterally is not the same as injecting something intramuscularly. Having stomach acid to denature animal/plant proteins and then having it go through numerous enzymatic processes will never compare to having these chemicals injected without any way to break it down before it reaches your bloodstream. All I'm saying is "critical thinking"...
@@erinmculpExactly - dumbest I’ve ever heard - does Dr Mike think his listeners are stupid?
Fantastic discussion! Big thanks to this channel for providing us with such rich information. Also random but great subtitles -- I don't know how much someone from the channel is going in to fix them but even though they're not flawless, they nailed things like medicine names and whatnot. Great stuff.
It’s nice to see there are still grownups in the room.
Is Dr Offer being a member of the FDA not a potential bias?
If he says anything incorrect . Also he is jot a member of FDA . When will antivaxers learn read ? Do you think if antivaxes were capable of looking up things and they could respect facts would there be any antivaxer ?
@@Sceince01Offit has been a member of the FDA VRBPAC Advisory Committee (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee) since 2018 to 2025.
He previously served on an earlier advisory committee for CDC ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices).
FDA VRBPAC ROSTER:
Paul A. Offit, M.D.
Expertise: Infectious Diseases
Term: 02/01/2018 - 01/31/2025
Director
Vaccine Education Center
Professor of Pediatrics
Division of Infectious Diseases
Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia
Maurice R. Hilleman Professor of Vaccinology
Perelman School of Medicine
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104
@@MK-ih6wp Reported for misinformation.
@@jaykanta4326 - Offit is a member of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee
Copied from his wiki page
I've watched several of Dr Mike's long interviews with experts, and I think this is the best one thus far. I feel like I learned a lot and got explanations for some of the confusing information releases from the NIH and CDC.
I have read many books, I listened to many TH-cam videos by many of the world's leading gurus and health experts but nothing came close to the hidden herbs by anette ray. I recommend everyone giving it a read.
I appreciate the dialogue around transparency. One of the things that made me distrust our healthcare leaders during COVID was the serious lack of transparency I heard coming from them. I know in many ways it can be complicated, but people like me REALLY appreciated not feeling like we were being lied to (even if it was by omission). I felt like I was being placated like a child while listening to our public health professionals. You mix in all the misinformation out there and that is where the problems can really take hold. I’m so grateful for people like Dr Offit who takes so much time to help us understand these things better. Please don’t wrap your transparency in a nice little sellable package - just be your awesome self and tell us the truth. Thank you for this wonderful interview.
Do you realize that you have zero education or knowledge to estimate any of the scientific data and studies they collect?
Thank you for this podcast. As a Family Medicine doctor myself, I will be referring my vaccine cautious patients to this very podcast. 😎
If they are informed they will know Offit is wrong! Study Steve Kirsch, Dr. Peter McCullough, Ed Dowd to get the real information!
Don’t bother, they’ve likely already heard these mealy mouthed, “because we’re the experts” diatribes.
@ I guess I’ll refer them to your opinions then, lol 😂
I like how you used the term vaccine cautious. I think that is a very fair and respectful way to describe those situations.
Phenomenal episode. Really enjoyed this one.
This conversation was amazing. Thank you.
Thanks so much for this. Dr. Offit is a real treasure.
He is frightening.
I’m a pharmacist and work in pharmacovigilance in a company and I absolutely loved this debate, the most complicated thing for me is to share my science knowledge and my company experience with those anti pharma because no matter what we talk different language. I feel science is tough to defend in this world dominated by social media, where anyone can talk and instil emotions with zero knowledge and then there is the political figures contributing to influence but they provide zero evidence. Science is fact driven and takes time, clinical data is not seen by the average person; they don’t see how many trials fail to make it and how expensive research; I don’t even debate or try to convince anyone of anything, I let it be unfortunately.
Nope..wrong. Give people access to the actual studies and let them decide, otherwise it's just fluffed up rhetoric from people with a vested interest.
@@user-cg8if3eq7dI think people should be able to see the research as well but I will say that if you don’t have experience or knowledge of how to interpret the results and discussion then a person may draw incorrect conclusions. I’ve done a lot of research and it’s a skill to both write as well as interpret papers to analyze them for validity, reliability and proper methodology. So it’s good to have a person who is experienced in it to help people understand what’s being said sometimes.
I, for one, would love nothing more than to read through all this "clinical data", as well as the trials and research completed. I read the VIS statements and compare them to the manufacturer's information that comes in the boxes with the vials. Guess how much is left out and/or completely twisted for the general public... I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with call-dove-lit
@@erinmculp
You can but you don't know which ones they are referencing. For credibility and ethics alone, those references should absolutely be cited. When you quote studies it's expected you cite your source. Try En c 🐝 👁️. Truth is truth and it's opposite is always it's opposite. Complete transparency should be an unquestionable dynamic, without it you cant provide a platform with which to afford anyone full informed consent. It's a red flag that the comment I posted keeps getting deleted. Hope you're good at puzzles. Omission of fact via censorship, if this were a relationship dynamic it would be known as a sick relationship. Manipulative, ommission of truth, deceitful, gas lighting, and yet censorship and lack of a full picture are supposed to be an acceptable dynamic over a screen? Or in a clinic setting? Any studies being referenced should be sitting out in a paper copy of JAMA or NE journal of med. so anyone can see exactly what they are signing up for. Science is science and rhetoric is rhetoric. They are not the same thing. Good luck.
@@erinmculp
@erinmculp
You can but you don't know which ones they are referencing. For credibility and ethics alone, those references should absolutely be cited. When you quote studies it's expected you cite your source. Try En c 🐝 👁️. Truth is truth and it's opposite is always it's opposite. Complete transparency should be an unquestionable dynamic, without it you cant provide a platform with which to afford anyone full informed consent. It's a red flag that the comment I posted keeps getting deleted. Hope you're good at puzzles. Omission of fact via censorship, if this were a relationship dynamic it would be known as a sick relationship. Manipulative, ommission of truth, deceitful, gas lighting, and yet censorship and lack of a full picture are supposed to be an acceptable dynamic over a screen? Or in a clinic setting? Any studies being referenced should be sitting out in a paper copy of JAMA or NE journal of med. so anyone can see exactly what they are signing up for. Science is science and rhetoric is rhetoric. They are not the same thing. Good luck
Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who works in manufacturing and had to implement COVID protocols and had to battle misinformation, it’s nice to be validated.
A pharma tool validates another pharma tool?😅
Dr. Mike, you have taught me things just from mw watch in your videos nearly everyday. You give such good information about the body and it teaches me so much, I really want to be a doctor when I’m older and you are helping me know more about the body which is helping me maybe even giving me a better chance of being a doctor. You make me laugh so much, thank you for helping me learnnn!!!!
This was a brilliant conversation!
I can listen to this expert for 20 more hours. Valuable knowledge for free! My college charges 6000 for 4 summer credits, no thank you I would like this instead!!
I wish Dr Mike would post a edited version of these, the 'shorts' are way to short, but 01:30:00 is too long for me to find time to listen to. A 30-45 minute cut would be so amazing!
I have to watch videos like this over a few days in increments 😅
Normally I'd agree, but there was such a massive amount of information in this video that short excerpts might not impart enough relevant information to make it useful.
i'd like to see in video description the link to pubblictions.. tht would be really cool :)
i would sooo love to see a fresher psychiatrist on ur pod ! i’m going into trauma informed psychiatry and would love to hear some exchange of perspectives on the effectively of how psychiatric/or just general medical practices treat clients with a medical-model with less emphasis on the client-practitioner relationship as opposed to newer approaches integrating both medicic and individual-focused care. would love you hear your thoughts on practicing from a reactionary/symptom-management approach (as i’ve personally experienced growing up with US healthcare) vs a wholistic/preventative perspective (if that’s even realistic lol). hope you see this !!
Honestly, what an amazing and needed conversation about medicine!
Too bad you're so clueless. Must be all those shots you had. Offit is a monster.
Wish this conversation was had in this way years ago.....
Great episode Doc! Felt like I was in virology again during my graduate program. Learned some new things as well. Excellent conversation.
Hi Mike, may we know why you did not ask the Dr what are the reasons that the rest of the world do not give Covid vaccine to 6 month olds and up, only in the US. Something to ponder. It’s important to see what other western nations recommend for the vaccines and why America is so different.
I think the answer to why was pretty clear when he talked in the video about his discussions (and disagreement I might add) with Fauci about the “high risk” vs “everyone” approach - so yeah, Dr Mike didn’t really need to re ask that question.
Great video actually made me informed on something I thought I was informed about and skeptical about and I appreciate the work they do. I like to think humanity without wealth incentives are generally good.
GREAT EPISODE 🎉
I'm just a layperson without any sort of medical degree and I can give you my anecdotal perspective on why I'm so willing to at least listen to some vaccine skeptics. I suffer from an autoimmune disease. The conventional medical community gives me 10 minutes of clinic time every 6 months and tries to prescribe me immune suppressing medication that has a low efficacy and a host of side effects. Meanwhile, the holistic/integrative community has given me countless resources to combat the disease with diet, supplements, and lifestyle with virtually zero side effects. The holistic community has helped me 10x more than conventional medicine in this regard, so they have gained credibility with me. And the conventional medical system (not any single doctor) continues to erode my trust more and more.....I know Dr. Offit says that we our medical knowledge improves greatly every 10 years. But why then does chronic disease, obesity, insulin resistance continue to rise? I don't believe that human gluttony and sedentary lifestyles are the only reason for this. The medical community is not providing us with the resources to help us reverse this as a society.
Well said. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence and case studies that indicate diet is very effective at addressing chronic disease. However there is no money for researchers and no big profit to be made, as there is for developing drugs
@@chrisminifie219 Anecdotal evidence is worthless and you have no clue what you're talking about.
The holistic community is a bunch of useless grifters and quacks just there to make money and do NOTHING.
"I don't believe that human gluttony and sedentary lifestyles are the only reason for this"
No one cares what you believe. Get scientific evidence or STFU.
I found this super informative, and some of this my med student friends or medical staff friends were also saying in the beginning.
As someone who grew up as a sickkid with epilepsy of course, I've had disasters with medical problems. Though i wouldn't be here without doctors that worked hard on medications.
Also, i had to have boosters on a few vaccines cause of my hospital stays, and because of that, i didn't get sick with things trying to recover from bigger issues.
Nurses, doctors, and techs are the majority amazing people and to see people not trust the professionals that dedicated their life to save ours makes me sad. It's healthy to have questions or concerns, but listen to the answers carefully and wven a second opinion is fine. Though if two or 3 professionals tell you the same thing, be open to learning n correction.
Thanks doctor mike for such a great video ❤
There should be a Medical board that has to approve medical laws written or in the process of being approved by congress
There are Medical Boards for all 50 US States and they regularly advise members of Congress. On a federal level there is the NIH, National Institutes of Health, which consist of 27 different institutes, the most notable being National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which Dr. Fauci was the head of from 1984-2022. Absolutely none of this matters to Republican politicians who consistently deny the medical science advised to them by their own medical boards and the 27 different institutes of the NIH. Republicans don't care about public health, they care about maintaining their power by keep Americans divided.
@ that’s upsetting,rather than advising I think they should have the power to actually approve and or veto laws that are harmful to the public
@@genetg6834 It would be nice in theory but would end the long standing precedent in the US that Congress and Congress alone is the lawmaking body of the Federal Government. I think it would be better if we instead had members of Congress who respected education, medical science, and expertise and understood it enough to write laws correctly instead of using their ignorance as an excuse..
@@high_tower_jordan5444 well with the overturning of chevron,it’s going to be easier and easier to ignore the experts,people wrongfully assume that education is prestiges and that scientists and doctors are part of the 1% and not literally part of the general public.
Why do the regulatory boards not regulate ?
Really good educational conversation 👍
Why are vaccine manufacturers given blanket civil immunity from lawsuits related to vaccines?
They aren't. However in our litigious society they wouldn't be able to afford to make anything. Folks want a world without danger, unfortunately that isn't this world.
@@maryannteal2209 which one is it? Are they given blanket immunity for vaccines like the Covid one or not? We supplement these companies with hundreds of billions of dollars, if they can't do that safely enough and still make a profit what are we even doing?
@@maryannteal2209 In the Pfizer documents which leaked, part of the deal for giving countries vaccines was that they would be granted civil immunity. They were granted civil immunity.
They aren't. Lying is a hallmark of anti-vaxxers, lol.
@@maryannteal2209yes they do- Yes, vaccine manufacturers in the United States have certain legal protections from liability under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 and the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act of 2005
Thrilled as a layperson to have the wonderful Dr. Offit explaining the current status of Covid vaccination for us semi educated lay persons. Thank you for this excellent service.
It beggars belief when he denies that pharmaceutical companies don’t manipulate data, or that profit can and will influence what data is suppressed and what data is released, or that lobbying doesn’t have any effect. Of course these things happen, they will always happen. What we don’t have is sufficient independent oversight to effectively deal with it when they do
lol . Why are hundreds of independent studies congruent with the pharma ? The knowledge dies not come from pharna it comes from the academia . At least learn about the processes before posting as when you are so wrong you make yourself look completely ignorant .
@@Sceince01 You seem unaware of how much money passes between pharma companies and the universities which conduct much of the research & clinical trials for their products.
Or you are well-aware of this financial conflict of interest, and you are lying & being rude in the comments.
@@MK-ih6wp Reported.
@@Sceince01 I still can’t believe you called this person ignorant while not being aware of how universities get their research funding. I guess I should not expect much given your misspelled username. I assume you’re just a troll, but lord help us if you aren’t.
Thank you both for an informative and reasonable conversation, well worth the time. Best wishes and continued success to you both. Be well, gentlemen.
"there's always a human price we have to pay" is so deep
Fascinating stuff, Dr. Mike. You are truly gifted. You've taught me a lot, for sure
At 9:00 their "recommendations" became mandated for employment. His "recommendations" become mandated to attend schools.
"no shirt, no shoes, no service" is the communism!
in france, it's mandated to have vaccines to go to school. if you don't understand why, you understand nothing
They said natural immunity was no good because they didn’t know how long it would last. That might be true, but you also don’t know how long the shots will last!?
The shots were rushed through trials so there was no time to check how long they’d last. Hence, natural immunity should have been seen as equally as protective, if not superior to the EUA products. (This has since been proven true; natural immunity was superior.)
They spoke so confidently to use back then. Told us we were bad people if we had Christmas with unvaccinated family members.
Yet now they will admit they were “moving at the speed of science”. Or “building the plane as we were flying it” which is a damning admission from the top v. developer.
They deserve to never be trusted ever again.
@@MK-ih6wp
Hmm.
1. Take vaccine with incredibly low chance of any negative affects.
Vs.
2. Catch the disease that's killed millions around the world and roll the dice whether you'll not only kick the bucket but then spread it to your loved ones.
Quite a tough decision
@@MK-ih6wp My comment here isn't in relation to the COVID vaccine, but I know that my MMR didn't last. I had MMR as a child (so in the late 70s / early 80s). When I was pregnant with my first (early 2000s) I no longer had any immunity to Rubella. There are people who NEVER get immunity from vaccines (seroconversion) but I also know I am not one of those as I was given the vaccine before my second pregnancy and my titers after that DID show immunity. This was 17 years ago now though and I have no idea if my titers would show any immunity any more.
And that's the issue. We just don't know.
There are staunch vaccine advocates out there who probably need another MMR if they really want to be 'protected', but they don't know that.
To the point regarding “well kids are exposed to way more antigens”. Yes but it is a natural process and it stimulates the immune system differently than injecting them. Also, we don’t create antibodies to 4 different diseases at one time typically in the natural progression of it
No it’s not any different . Can you please highlight the differences in the immune process on molecular when immunity is attained from vaccine vs bug. The world class immunology experts call the immunity obtained from bugs the survivors natural immunity and the immunity from vaccines natural .
True a child is not exposed to JUST 4 or 6 antigens via vaccine but actually 2000 antigens on average every single day . Keep your nonsense to yourself. Read and learn.
Is it that different though? Yes, the place where the foreign body enters the body is different (through nose/mouth vs skin/muscle of arm). I can totally see that it feels different, but why would the body react differently to a foreign body in one place or the other? What evidence do we have the body reacts differently, and what would count as "different"? Less antibodies? Less histamine response or something else?
Do you think that our immunsystem fights one Virus and bakteria after the other? Our body is constantly fighting against all kinds of deseases simultaniously. 24/7. So a vaccine against 4 different deseases with weakened or dead viruses is nothing a healthy body can not handle.
@@JeromeBetta there is no difference . Also in your extreme dishonesty you just assumed that we do not produce antibodies to 4 different diseases at the same time and posted it there as a fact ? No shame ? No respect for facts ? Children are exposed to 2000 to 6000 antigens every single day and we do produce antibodies to most .
@@JeromeBetta can you highlight the differences in the natural immune response from vaccine vs natural survivors immune response to much more harmful virus on molecular level ? Let’s see
It’s completely rational for people to be skeptical of something that isn’t natural, being injected into their body and is being engineered by people they don’t know who have a fiduciary obligation to the shareholders of an incredibly wealthy and powerful industry. People who call these people names for simply asking questions are borderline cultists. Glad they started the video by acknowledging these people are not crazy science deniers and have legitimate concerns.
Their concerns are unfounded through many studies. If you choose not to believe them then you’re just very ignorant.
@@TehDubster Not all of them are. One of the concerns are adverse reactions to vaccines which are demonstrably true. Also, another valid concern is whether or not the people administering the vaccine are correctly trained (more relevant during the pandemic or in areas with less access to medical treatment) and know what to do in the event of a vaccine reaction. That doesn't mean I agree with many of the arguments the anti-vaxx movement use (largely because they're unsupported by accurate information), I just object to the false equivalence of 'I have concerns about vaccines' and 'all vaccines are evil'.
@@TehDubster Dude, there is a huge difference between someone who has questions and/or concerns and someone who straight up doesn’t believe in them. If you honestly believe there are zero reasons to be concerned or ask questions then you’re not reading the same studies you’re confidently touting about and you’re the one being ignorant. If you think that all vax’s are 100% safe and have zero short term or long term adverse reactions, you’re not participating in reality.
@@TehDubster “Their concerns are unfounded” is just objectively false. The studies literally show the possibility of short term and long term adverse reactions as well as fatal reactions. This is the cult like rhetoric I’m talking about! And you’re talking about being ignorant? LOL
@ ah, I see vaccine deniers. Keep talking to the wall buddy.
What do you do with experts on the other side: Why doesn’t the same “just doesn’t make sense” is not persuasive to those people?
That is a great conversation 👍 frank and substantive 👍 as a soon to be mom this was really informative..
These podcasts are very informative, thanks for maintaining the quality of these videos.
Had a patient at local jealth dept have a grand mal seizure after 2nd covid vaccine. She was admitted to icu and walked out of hospital 4 days later.
Have you followed up with her? Is she going to be OK?
I won a hundred dollars one time after getting the covid vaccine... totally was because I got the vaccine
No. No f/u. Found out about her status because my contractors wife was an ICU nurse. Tests did not indicate anything.
That wasn’t a valid reason for refusing another dose.
@lisaschmidt8466 she did not refuse the dose. This seizure occurred 20 minutes after her 2 and dose.
I see Dr. Mike and Dr. Offitt - I HIT LIKE!!!
This was really interesting, thank you for such an informative episode.
Thank you for this conversation. Very interesting!
From what I’ve seen and discussed with people, the modern concern around general vaccinations revolves around the quantity and frequency of injections, particularly with younger children. Also, there’s still abundant skepticism around mRNA technology, and whether some of the widespread health issues countries are dealing with post-pandemic are causally linked to adverse effects, or whether these simply correlate and the mechanisms that make mRNA vaccines work are largely safe.
I personally feel like it’s okay and important to discuss these topics openly, especially when adding in the context of how diseases in the past ravaged entire populations. Meeting skepticism with censorship or questions with insults isn’t the best way forward.
Conversations like these could go a long way in advancing public awareness and understanding.
@@FunderDuck your first concern was covered. Not sure you watched or payed attention to that part.
Today’s childhood vaccines schedule contains less ingredients and covers more than any previous schedule.
@ yes, I watched the full video. And my comment was more to present common criticisms rather than my personal views.
It was great to see Doctor Mike articulate the common questions and concerns some people have around this topic. There is a world of difference between acknowledging someone’s question and then providing a response, as opposed to brushing off the concern entirely as dumb or dangerous.
I think many academics would prefer it if everyone in society just outright trusted their professional positions. However, with the collapse of institutional trust largely driven by the pandemic, rebuilding that trust and general public education on important topics sometimes requires going back to basics.
@@FunderDuck The criticisms are NOT valid though. You're implying that the negativity is based in intellect and logic. No it's based on conspiracy theories, lunatics and people trying to make money/promote their own ideas.
If you don't believe that. the fact that discussions still occur about the earth being flat is proof.
@@justindwight5457to expand on what the original poster said other developed nations do vaccinations differently. All developed nations seem to do things a little differently. That’s doesn’t really instill confidence in medical institutions for most people. You’d think they’d have more consensus
@ why does it though? Nothing any of the agencies do goes outside of labeling. Labeling that is driven by data. Sounds more like people digging for excuses where none should exist, nor have they taken the time to actually educate themselves (regurgitating what they’ve heard without actually knowing how to read data especially with zero understanding of terminology isn’t educating).
My point is antivaxx trope is always ignorant of nuance, gishgallup that leads laypersons down a path of Dunning-Kruger.
I have watched this twice. People want the truth so WE can make decisions. Thank you for your time.
Sure, just learn how to read the research yourself. Learn how to evaluate research, learn how to be a scientist.
Go ahead. I've done it, why don't you? The research is excellent.
@@jaykanta4326spam commenting on doctor mikes channel wont help protect your career, this some insane obsessive behavior
@@glennmartin1918 He's displaying some textbook sunk-cost fallacy.
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The fact that 70% of this man's salary at FDA is paid for by the pharmaceutical industry is... pretty tough for me. Also two zoonotic spillovers at the exact same market at the exact same time doc? Former CDC director Robert Redfield and US House Subcommittee on Covid both disagree with you there.
Get over it
@@ronalddepesa6221 No thanks boomer.
@@ronalddepesa6221 he is trying to warn you that you’re listening to an extended sales pitch from a pharma medical man, disguised as a podcast about “public health”.
Last July, CBS News investigated allegations of conflicts of interest among "independent" experts who comment on vaccine safety, and the companies that manufacture vaccines. One widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety, Dr. Paul Offit of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, was mentioned in the report in connection to his anti-diarrhea vaccine Rotateq, which he helped develop with Merck.
someones background and conflict of interest is enough to be suspicious, but If everything he's said is backed up and his logic is sound thats not enough to discredit him. He's not just saying "trust me i'm qualified" he's actually walking through the logic and citing evidence. You would be better off addressing the meat of his arguments instead of him as a person. If the most corrupt, shady, greedy person in the world tells you the sky is blue, it can still be true.
I'm interested in what papers Dr. Offit is talking about (and who wrote them).
Thank you Doctor big Mike
Such an education on vaccines, hopefully more watch and ask questions of their doctor.
the doctors are brainwashed, misinformed or corrupt
That's why these things shouldn't have ever been forced on the public, absolutely immoral that they were.
Explain "forced", anti-vaccine cultist. And your morals aren't really a good point to start an opinion.
The longer this video went, the more certain my decision to NOT get the jab was 100% correct.
Nothing like listening to a 1:30 sales pitch...
Sorry that you failed to learn . At this most most igno rant t are against vaccines as data is so crystal clear .
As someone that is very confident in the decision to not vaccinate my child, this video did nothing to sway my decision.
@ I can confidently say that you made a very poor decision for your child and you put your child and others smarter parents children at risk. Should your child suffer just because of your obvious ignorance ?
@Sceince01 Dr Offit directly benefits for each vaccine that is given. He is on the Merck board. His motive is profit, not well-being.
I doubt you understand much in the way of science even with your TH-cam tag.
I have personally worked in a lab with the C19 virus and understood Coronaviruses 20 years ago
@@paigiemartin6723keep up the good work Mom. Every single family i know who d8es not regularly vaccinate are far healthier than the mainstream crowd.
This seems amazing for anyone who never read any research in the scientific journals and actual data from the vaccination rollout from different countries. Where did the skepticism disappear?
12:00 - best subtle joke ever 😂
I came to the comments for that too.😂
I actually had myocarditis when I had the vaccine and was in the age range where it was more common. Kinda funky feeling, first time in an ICU.
Thank you for this! More truth needs to be out there!