The Borg has one thing I've never seen in Star Wars . Transporters . A bunch of Drones transport on a Star Destroyer or the Death Star and it would be over with pretty quickly .
It’s giving one thing that the borg wouldn’t have… the force. The only way to use the force is to be born with it. They can’t make it. They are cooked😂.
@marcusdarkallius1194BC....while that would probably work for the ships (initially) It wouldn't work for the death star as the death star doesn't have shields it only had a shield in return of the jedi due to the shield transmitter facility on Endor. So the death star would be easily assimilated by the borg and would be all over for the empire.
The borg probably wouldn't even bother assimilating Star Wars technology, it's too primitive. The Borg generally go after species with more advanced technology than what they already have. As for the races in Star Wars they would probably offer a lot to the collective in terms of assimilating new kinds of drones
Not exactly. Hyperspace travel technology would be an invaluable assimilation target. Hyperspace is even more of a cheat in physics than warp drive. You can cross the entire galaxy in a matter of weeks with it. Voyager going warp 9 took years to even begin crossing the delta quadrant before sheer luck (and time travel) saved them.
@DiamondBaron The Borg have transwarp technology as well as slip stream technology which is much more faster than hyperspace. Oh need I forget they also have that long range transporting technology that the assimilated from some species in the delta quadrant. It was that species who had that pleasure planet
You have absolutely NO clue as to what you are talking about. Lucas and Roddenberry both said their technology was basically the same, the used different terminology. And yes I know you, trekkies with your" alleged superior intellect, will say they, the creators don't know what they are talking about. I just say this, a borg cube suddenly shows up close to the Death Star, it starts announcing its nonsense, and the Death Star just blows the damn cube into space dust. Case closes. The power from one single shot of the Death Star would overpower any shielding and pulverize the cube. Point. Set. Match. Bye bye.
@@randalcook325 Depends where, relative to the Death Star, a borg cube shows up. If it warps in right in front of the super-laser, then yeah, no contest. If it warps in on on the other side of the moon-sized battle station, then it's going to have HOURS to posture as much as it likes before the Death Star can turn around. And during the posturing, the borg would be teleporting drones unto the Death Star to try and figure out what they're dealing with. In the meantime, the Death Star would probably be firing its turbo lasers at the cube, to which the cube would quickly adapt, and then launch TIE fighters when the turbo lasers stopped being effective, only to see them tractor-beamed unto the cube for assimilation. Then Star Destroyers and Super Star Destroyers would show up, but they use the exact same turbo lasers as the Death Star, so that's not going to help, much, and the borg would just beam drones over to them too, to assimilate the crews in order to gain knowledge and more drones to work with. By the time the Death Star can turn around to deal with the Borg Cube, there are so, so many drones in play that the battle station's crew will be soon overwhelmed, and even Palpatine, with his Force Lighting, won't be able to hold them off forever...
@@ModernSciFi Force wielders are rare, especially after Order 66, and the Galactic Empire is a system that heavily punishes creative and/or independent thought, which is the Borg's Achille's heel. The Collective might find Force wielders interesting, but would just ignore everyone else, unless they were fired on first, and then, total annihilation of the Empire.
@@jorgecarreras4214 man you totally underestimate the collective power of the Empire. The Emperor was able to detect threats from anywhere in the galaxy. The Death Star was actually built to battle the Yuuzon Vong threat that Palpatine had detected. The fact that the rebellion occurred was a secondary problem for the Emperor. It would be the same for the borg. The Dark Side of the force would destroy the borg before they could take root.
@@randalcook325 And you totally underestimate the assimilation and adaptive powers of the collective. MAYBE, and that's a big "maybe," The Empire can win some early victories against the Borg, but once the Borg have analyzed blaster tech and developed counter-measures, (which they've shown to do very, very quickly) it's going to start going badly for The Empire, fast. The same goes for Force Users. Palpatine, the strongest canonical Sith Lord, is pretty impressive with his Force Lightning, but when it hits Borg Shields that nullify the effect? Heck, he can barely limp along, and that's before he got thrown down a chute to Death Star II's reactor, only to be revived as a clone fused to a giant metal umbilical.... So a Borg Drone catches him and assimilates him. Now you've got billions of Force Wielding Drones to deal with!
Borg will crack the empire's primative shields, they figured out the Enterprise D's real quick, the beam drones onto the ships and turn the stormtroopers into drones. Darth Vader and Emperor will be surrounded by drones. Their lightsabers will stop cutting the drones because they will adapt. The Emperor and Darth will be forced to flee their ships. Also, when the Star Destroyers start shooting at the Borg cubes and Spheres, the Borg shields will adapt to their firepower.
The death star would get one shot off, it would damage a cube severely, then 3 cubes would show up, assimilate the death star, assimilate all their weapons, and then assimilate all the Empire's ships and planets.
Considering the deathstar outputs enough energy to destroy objects with hundreds of thousands of times the mass of a borg cube, I believe the opposite is true.
@Popcultureguy3000 absolutely, the death star gets maybe one shot since the borg might not immediately know the capability of it, but once they do, they'll just put maneuver and adapt to the smaller weapons. Then it comes down to numbers.
@@DiamondBaron you’re forgetting the empire has multiple death stars. They could get off multiple shots. And it depends on what galaxy we’re in because of the Borg would have to use hyperspace they aren’t going to get to where the empire is immediately. This whole concept is flawed😂.
@@DiamondBaron shields and have you ever seen a armored cube pure nightmare fuel adaptable shields hundreds of thousands of drones of all types spheres regular cubes diamond config and cubes are not small and there are a vast armada spread over multiple quadrants and in my opinion the borg would of easily wiped out the milky way like they would of sent one cube to wolf 359 but they did i guess and it still almost wiped out the federation so it would be basically the entire galaxy of drones gobbling up other galaxies till there were no others. we are the borg
Easy win for The Borg (the ORIGINAL Borg, NOT the pathetic iteration led by the Borg Queen that gets beaten by every opponent). Resistance is futile. The Empire will be assimilated.
Problem with Star Wars is the short range of their ship weapons. Max effective range of a Star Destroyer turbo laser is 1,200 kilometers and Star Treks phasers consider 20,000 kilometers to be knife fighting range with a max range of roughly 300,000 kilometers. That said turbo lasers are brute force plasma weapons, that might give them an advantage if they can get close enough to use them. Then again being close to a Borg cube is a very bad place to find oneself.
The Borg has never dealt with The Force. That could be a serious weakness. Being able to easily control the weak minded, and the Borg are definitely weak minded.
the Borg collective consciousness is not weak minded. it is incredibly powerful and is what gives them the ability to regenerate ships etc, even the Q were mindful of the Borg
@mattlister1325 Q was mindful of the Borg? I admit I'm an older Trekkie, I like Kirk and Spock, but didn't Q introduce the Borg to us? I thought Q could manipulate the Borg. Please educate me.
Excellent channel! So many Star Trek fans think that they would be able to use the force when the only way someone could use it as if they’re literally born with it. The Borg can’t just take over the death star because each one has Vader or Palpatine in it… too many people are underestimating the force. Really sad.
Vader to the borg queen - Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to assimilate entire worlds is insignificant next to the power of the Force! Force chokes the Queen and it’s over. Vader scoffs at her lifeless body - “I find your lack of faith disturbing!” Yes - borg have transporters but they will underestimate the power of the Force.
The borge relie heavily on adaptive shields for protection. Force crush or choke will bypass that shielding. Force lighting will be able to fry the mechanical parts while cooking the organic mater. Theres never been a measurement of the most powerful of lighting. And what about the light Saber. I bet it cuts them down quick.
unless this happens immediately with both sides fighting from the get go as you have laid out, the borg will win. First they assimilate outer worlds getting an understanding of the technologies that exist within the star wars galaxy. Palpatine and Vader would have no idea what's happening as in current canon(not legends) they have not displayed any precognitive abilities within the force. outposts would just vanish and they would have no clue as to why. then the borg come across some imperial ships. Those ships are not powerful enough to destroy a cube alone. so after a bit of time the borg will have adapted to the Imperial Navy's weapons. and they would then start to, if they hadn't started upon first contact, assimilating the imperial fleets. "But what about the shields on the ships" someone will say. My answer is Borg Tractor Beams. They will break down the shields and thus allow the Drones to start beaming over. At that point star destroyers and other Imperial ships become borg ships, adding to the collective. now one cube that the Borg sent in will have a fleet starting of assimilated ships. The Imperial navy have never had to worry about weapon frequencies and unlike starfleet who realised that that's how you over come the Borg Adaptability by changing the frequency of their weapons and shields the imperials won't have any more defenses. Next you'll hear some one say "But the Death Star's main cannon..." Yeah. that will be useful against a single or maybe two or three ships before the now growing fleet of borg ships adapts to it and then the station becomes theirs. The only thing that has a chance to do anything are Palpatine and Vader. and even they can be overwhelmed. The Borg will likely have accessed the imperial data banks and more to have learned about the two's sorcerous ways. and they'd determine that they would be a threat and hunt them down. With Borg Sesnsor tech they could easily find a man that is more machine than man and beam some numerous cattle drones to surround him in the hope of assimilating him. If they mange that then the Galactic empire will be forever known as the 1st Galactic borg Empire(in honour of Palpatine declaring it the first galactic empire. How ever if the two sides are fighting from the get go, the Imperial navy with all you said would be against the borg, will likely decimate the borg seeing as the Borg don't typically use more than one ship unless they deem the enemy a high level threat like Species 8472. But if Unimatrix Zero is in this fight, the Imperials will not survive even then. They wouldn't know about the Borg Queen nor that killing her or destroying Unimatrix Zero will stop or temporarily disrupt the borg as a whole. Sorry for the long response. I am a fan of both series but i think the Star Wars Fans overlook how nasty the Borg can be.
The Borg are like an insidious dancer that can start metastasizing at any moment. A few Borg on various levels of Coruscant, who have not yet been eliminated, can bring down a planet as complex as that. The Empire has a disastrous problem, its weapons are standardized for manufacturing on an immense scale (which would accelerate the adaptation processes used by the Borg), not thinking about their adaptability to various situations that require the use of weapons and equipment to unknown situations, as happens with the Federation and even so they have to be thankful for not being the focus of Borg attention.
cross-franchise comparisons tend to be a bit daft, this being no exception. i think the only interesting point this brings out is what is the point of fighters in star wars at all? they don't have enough firepower to damage the large ships, the borg could ignore whole fleets of them. so could the larger starwars chips (based on the various films and series) so why have them at all, appart from the eye-candy space dogfights
Interesting point. I wouldn’t call it daft since it’s a thought experiment. The fighters are only impactful when they fly inside the Death Star but in that case it was a game changer since the Starships couldn’t destroy it
It all boils down to how many Borg cubes can be destroyed by the Death Stars in under a minute. Before an army of Borg transport over and begin assimilating imperial soldiers minus force sensitive fighters.
Sidious could use the Force to throw a fleet of cubes into a sun. No more cube. While the Borg can, and would, overwhelm the technology, use of the Force is an inane ability, not a technological one. The Force cannot be assimilated. It really depends on how powerful Sidious and Vader are.
It doesn't take that much to change and adapt to weapons fire or saber attacks. The force, would be detected, but the Borg, do to races with Mental type powers, like Betazids. A defense would be formed quickly. Droid factor, would be useless as well. They are walking computers and those can be hacked remotely or on contact. Borg Unimatrixs is like an Hydra. Cut off the head, another grows back aka transfers to another Unimatrix. The only way to stop them, that somewhat effect. Is to strike at them on their Nanites. Also, if the Borg, came to the galaxy far far away, The empire needs to out right destroy the beach head in which the Borg had taken and no doubt set up an Transwarp gate and an unimatrix. Failure, will doom the galaxy.
I know what would happen! I know who wins! Whoever gets this going is served process and a judge issues an injunction preventing the battle from happening. Then the case settles and there is no battle.
Agreed it’s a fun scenario to think about, the Empire vs.The Borg and presented a fun “what if” scenario. It would be very cool to see the Death Star completely obliterate a Borg tactical cube in one shot. Right now on your channel has 68 subscribers but your video editing is clearly high-quality and I think in the coming years, it will really grow. Take care. 🪐☄️🚀
The Empire would be probably be defeated in a protracted war, but once the Emperor was assimilated he would easily cause havoc with his force compulsion powers. Probably a civil war between the borg queen and Palpatine's borg.
Can’t do that. Be born with the force to use it so even if they remade him or whatever the hell your saying, they couldn’t even use it😂. That’s how the force works believe it or not.
Star Wars may win. Until the Borg assimilate Yoda on Dagobah. The Borg we are. Assimilated you will be. The Force we now have. Resistance, futile it is.
The Borg would win easily, its how they work, they don't just appear in the heart of a major system and start blasting away they analyze, study, see if what is there is worth consuming and adding to their perfection and with all the resources available, the Borg would move in but slowly, they would be able to see with Star Trek sensor tech that the Star Wars galaxy is very large and any scout/single cube would need to be cautious or be overwhelmed by sheer numbers, for now. First it would start with outposts, freighters, supply ships disappearing, strange rumors/sightings of unknown vessel(s) and outlying colonies in the outer rim areas no longer responding Then it would start becoming more and more frequent and by then its far to late. The Borg will have assimilated hyperdrive tech, droid workings along with weapons and shields of everything they have come across and the Star Wars galaxy is full of that stuff. With access to hyperdrive knowledge and how navigational computers calculate it, they can start using the hyperdrive lanes to spread across the galaxy extremely fast. Regular warp drive really tips the scale as no Star Wars ships can keep up with that kind of movement in system type combat, hyperdrives work by jumping, stopping, calculating another jump, then repeating until you are at your destination. Its very very fast but limited in what you can do inside a system itself or regular space as Borg cubes/vessels can fly around a speeds exceeding light and fire weapons at targets. From studying what they know they are already immune to blaster fire, turbo lasers, ion cannons and such, Star Wars is not the only thing they have taken over, they have knowledge of countless species and tech that have allowed them to grow into what they are today. Beaming is another thing, by using their sensors and from what they have learned of deflector shields they might be able to beam right through it, you can do it in Star Trek on older type shields with newer beaming tech and the Borg are masters of that shit, its what they do to invade. After that like a virus they would start spreading, outlying worlds would go dark, Imperial and Rebel vessels would vanish/disappear from the rosters and not respond. Any person they assimilate the collective instantly knows what that person knew, tactics, military strength, all that becomes part of them. Weaknesses and strengths of the species, their methods, their reasons for resisting, the government of the galaxy, the Borg understand it. The force is the only thing that could give them pause but Palpatine and Vader are all that is left really after the Jedi purge and two humanoid beings in the face of the borg collective are nothing. Plus since midichlorians are something the Borg have never come across, when they do they might consider it essential to assimilate it to add to their perfection like with the Omega molecule, they might consider it something they will stop at nothing to possess. Remeber the borg Queen has free will and she could study the force and with the power of trillions of minds all accessing the force, the borg could start using it or at least she could and that is a scary thought.
What are casual sci-fi fan. You can’t just use someone else’s force abilities. You have to be born with it. Yes they could re-create pine, but they can’t use the force because they weren’t born with it meaning they wouldn’t know how to use it. There’s a reason that the “rule of two” and the Jedi temple existed.
Borg would batter the empire due to their large numbers, unified mind and strong shields. It wouldn't take long in a toe to toe battle to defeat the empire and the fastest imperial ship is a snail to a transwarp cube. In a war the Borg would win easily.
@@porter0311 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The Borg could just transport onto their ships and assimilate them. The Empire's massive weapons won't stop them.
@@chrishemry7 You're not getting it. You said transporters would be a game changer for the borg and that makes no sense since they already have that tech... The only side that it would be a game changer for is the Empire if they had it. smh
IT always amuses me when Star Wars fans think they have any chance against Trek Opponents. The tech in Trek, even the original series is going to win. As regards later Trek, its not even a good warm up.
Problem is that a borg cube has so many drones and how much the force could affect that kind of numbers is questionable. so much of it is also automated and run by computers.
Vader and Palpatine are still human beings, they can only fight so long even with the dark side fueling them, they will tire eventually. Borg can take over entire planets easily, they adapt to attacks, Palpatine can throw force lighting at them all he wants but he will fall to trillions of borg coming at him, they can destroy any planet he is on with many different types of tech. There are many types of things that have been used in Star Trek episodes that have destroyed or made planets uninhabitable for humanoid life, the Borg also have no qualms about "kamikaze" type attacks if it benefits the collective, again they have done like as they did against Species 8472.
@@perkygoth26 the only way to remove the force from someone is to kill them, and even then we’ve seen a force ghost so no, you’re wrong. You have no understanding of how dangerous the force is!
borg would transport over to the death star and assimilate...game over.
@@Powerguy-ir4mx you don't know what you are talking about trekkie.
They don’t have the force, without the force there is no way.
@GOCAPSDMV the Borg can adapt
amen bro and we'd have to deal with a borg death star -.-
The Borg has one thing I've never seen in Star Wars .
Transporters .
A bunch of Drones transport on a Star Destroyer or the Death Star and it would be over with pretty quickly .
It’s giving one thing that the borg wouldn’t have… the force. The only way to use the force is to be born with it. They can’t make it. They are cooked😂.
The Shields would block transporters. First thing to happen in battle is to raise shields.
@marcusdarkallius1194BC....while that would probably work for the ships (initially) It wouldn't work for the death star as the death star doesn't have shields it only had a shield in return of the jedi due to the shield transmitter facility on Endor. So the death star would be easily assimilated by the borg and would be all over for the empire.
Borg haven't planet destroying weapons, they have entire solar system destroying weapons, as shown in Voyager
An assimilated Storm Trooper might actually be able to hit it's target for once.
I don't care how powerful your ship is if you see a borg cube you run don't look back don't look back
The Borg would eventually drain the empire down until breaking point adapting assimilating the Empires numbers to their own
The borg probably wouldn't even bother assimilating Star Wars technology, it's too primitive. The Borg generally go after species with more advanced technology than what they already have. As for the races in Star Wars they would probably offer a lot to the collective in terms of assimilating new kinds of drones
Not exactly. Hyperspace travel technology would be an invaluable assimilation target. Hyperspace is even more of a cheat in physics than warp drive. You can cross the entire galaxy in a matter of weeks with it. Voyager going warp 9 took years to even begin crossing the delta quadrant before sheer luck (and time travel) saved them.
@DiamondBaron The Borg have transwarp technology as well as slip stream technology which is much more faster than hyperspace. Oh need I forget they also have that long range transporting technology that the assimilated from some species in the delta quadrant. It was that species who had that pleasure planet
You have absolutely NO clue as to what you are talking about. Lucas and Roddenberry both said their technology was basically the same, the used different terminology. And yes I know you, trekkies with your" alleged superior intellect, will say they, the creators don't know what they are talking about. I just say this, a borg cube suddenly shows up close to the Death Star, it starts announcing its nonsense, and the Death Star just blows the damn cube into space dust. Case closes. The power from one single shot of the Death Star would overpower any shielding and pulverize the cube. Point. Set. Match. Bye bye.
@randalcook325 Instead of typing a long pointless rant about something that only exist in your head, try going outside and enjoying real life.
@@randalcook325 Depends where, relative to the Death Star, a borg cube shows up. If it warps in right in front of the super-laser, then yeah, no contest. If it warps in on on the other side of the moon-sized battle station,
then it's going to have HOURS to posture as much as it likes before the Death Star can turn around.
And during the posturing, the borg would be teleporting drones unto the Death Star to try and figure out what they're dealing with.
In the meantime, the Death Star would probably be firing its turbo lasers at the cube, to which the cube would quickly adapt, and then launch TIE fighters when the turbo lasers stopped being effective, only to see them tractor-beamed unto the cube for assimilation.
Then Star Destroyers and Super Star Destroyers would show up, but they use the exact same turbo lasers as the Death Star, so that's not going to help, much, and the borg would just beam drones over to them too, to assimilate the crews in order to gain knowledge and more drones to work with.
By the time the Death Star can turn around to deal with the Borg Cube, there are so, so many drones in play that the battle station's crew will be soon overwhelmed, and even Palpatine, with his Force Lighting, won't be able to hold them off forever...
i see im not the only one who sees the star wars universe being destroyed with very little effort
It is lower tech but it has the force.
the force is not going to help when all force wielders light or dark are drones
@@ModernSciFi Force wielders are rare, especially after Order 66, and the Galactic Empire is a system that heavily punishes creative and/or independent thought, which is the Borg's Achille's heel.
The Collective might find Force wielders interesting, but would just ignore everyone else, unless they were fired on first, and then, total annihilation of the Empire.
@@jorgecarreras4214 man you totally underestimate the collective power of the Empire. The Emperor was able to detect threats from anywhere in the galaxy. The Death Star was actually built to battle the Yuuzon Vong threat that Palpatine had detected. The fact that the rebellion occurred was a secondary problem for the Emperor. It would be the same for the borg. The Dark Side of the force would destroy the borg before they could take root.
@@randalcook325 And you totally underestimate the assimilation and adaptive powers of the collective.
MAYBE, and that's a big "maybe," The Empire can win some early victories against the Borg, but once the Borg have analyzed blaster tech and developed counter-measures, (which they've shown to do very, very quickly) it's going to start going badly for The Empire, fast.
The same goes for Force Users. Palpatine, the strongest canonical Sith Lord, is pretty impressive with his Force Lightning, but when it hits Borg Shields that nullify the effect?
Heck, he can barely limp along, and that's before he got thrown down a chute to Death Star II's reactor, only to be revived as a clone fused to a giant metal umbilical....
So a Borg Drone catches him and assimilates him.
Now you've got billions of Force Wielding Drones to deal with!
I'd say it hinges on if the Borg assimilates someone who's force-sensitive.
Borg will crack the empire's primative shields, they figured out the Enterprise D's real quick, the beam drones onto the ships and turn the stormtroopers into drones. Darth Vader and Emperor will be surrounded by drones. Their lightsabers will stop cutting the drones because they will adapt. The Emperor and Darth will be forced to flee their ships.
Also, when the Star Destroyers start shooting at the Borg cubes and Spheres, the Borg shields will adapt to their firepower.
The death star would get one shot off, it would damage a cube severely, then 3 cubes would show up, assimilate the death star, assimilate all their weapons, and then assimilate all the Empire's ships and planets.
Considering the deathstar outputs enough energy to destroy objects with hundreds of thousands of times the mass of a borg cube, I believe the opposite is true.
I think it would obliterate a Borg Cube, then the three support Cubes would handily take the Death Star thanks to their adaptive shields.
@Popcultureguy3000 absolutely, the death star gets maybe one shot since the borg might not immediately know the capability of it, but once they do, they'll just put maneuver and adapt to the smaller weapons. Then it comes down to numbers.
@@DiamondBaron you’re forgetting the empire has multiple death stars. They could get off multiple shots. And it depends on what galaxy we’re in because of the Borg would have to use hyperspace they aren’t going to get to where the empire is immediately. This whole concept is flawed😂.
@@DiamondBaron shields and have you ever seen a armored cube pure nightmare fuel adaptable shields hundreds of thousands of drones of all types spheres regular cubes diamond config and cubes are not small and there are a vast armada spread over multiple quadrants and in my opinion the borg would of easily wiped out the milky way like they would of sent one cube to wolf 359 but they did i guess and it still almost wiped out the federation so it would be basically the entire galaxy of drones gobbling up other galaxies till there were no others. we are the borg
Easy win for The Borg (the ORIGINAL Borg, NOT the pathetic iteration led by the Borg Queen that gets beaten by every opponent).
Resistance is futile. The Empire will be assimilated.
Problem with Star Wars is the short range of their ship weapons. Max effective range of a Star Destroyer turbo laser is 1,200 kilometers and Star Treks phasers consider 20,000 kilometers to be knife fighting range with a max range of roughly 300,000 kilometers. That said turbo lasers are brute force plasma weapons, that might give them an advantage if they can get close enough to use them. Then again being close to a Borg cube is a very bad place to find oneself.
That symbol at the beginning was that of the Republic not the Empire
Would love to see an animated depiction of this
That’s not a bad idea
The Borg has never dealt with The Force. That could be a serious weakness. Being able to easily control the weak minded, and the Borg are definitely weak minded.
Maybe or perhaps they are the strongest mind because there are so many.
@MrAustanian Yeah, good point, but I'm thinking, "Darth Vader, you're our only hope!" Because the tech would easily be absorbed.
the Borg collective consciousness is not weak minded. it is incredibly powerful and is what gives them the ability to regenerate ships etc, even the Q were mindful of the Borg
@mattlister1325 Q was mindful of the Borg? I admit I'm an older Trekkie, I like Kirk and Spock, but didn't Q introduce the Borg to us? I thought Q could manipulate the Borg. Please educate me.
The jedi would get a real shock when they encounter the personal forcefields the borg have and cant bypass them.
The Empire wouldn't stand a chance against the Borg.
Right because they can’t just pull out of hyper space and use project Stardust to immediately annihilate the Borg😂😂😂.
Excellent channel! So many Star Trek fans think that they would be able to use the force when the only way someone could use it as if they’re literally born with it. The Borg can’t just take over the death star because each one has Vader or Palpatine in it… too many people are underestimating the force. Really sad.
Vader to the borg queen - Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to assimilate entire worlds is insignificant next to the power of the Force! Force chokes the Queen and it’s over. Vader scoffs at her lifeless body - “I find your lack of faith disturbing!”
Yes - borg have transporters but they will underestimate the power of the Force.
Would it be possible to have a video on Starfleet vs the Galactic Empire?
it would. The scenes of DS9's battles vs the dominion would be great for that.
I hope we’ll never get a movie cause they’ll bigger it up
The borge relie heavily on adaptive shields for protection. Force crush or choke will bypass that shielding. Force lighting will be able to fry the mechanical parts while cooking the organic mater. Theres never been a measurement of the most powerful of lighting. And what about the light Saber. I bet it cuts them down quick.
unless this happens immediately with both sides fighting from the get go as you have laid out, the borg will win. First they assimilate outer worlds getting an understanding of the technologies that exist within the star wars galaxy. Palpatine and Vader would have no idea what's happening as in current canon(not legends) they have not displayed any precognitive abilities within the force. outposts would just vanish and they would have no clue as to why. then the borg come across some imperial ships. Those ships are not powerful enough to destroy a cube alone. so after a bit of time the borg will have adapted to the Imperial Navy's weapons. and they would then start to, if they hadn't started upon first contact, assimilating the imperial fleets. "But what about the shields on the ships" someone will say. My answer is Borg Tractor Beams. They will break down the shields and thus allow the Drones to start beaming over. At that point star destroyers and other Imperial ships become borg ships, adding to the collective. now one cube that the Borg sent in will have a fleet starting of assimilated ships. The Imperial navy have never had to worry about weapon frequencies and unlike starfleet who realised that that's how you over come the Borg Adaptability by changing the frequency of their weapons and shields the imperials won't have any more defenses. Next you'll hear some one say "But the Death Star's main cannon..." Yeah. that will be useful against a single or maybe two or three ships before the now growing fleet of borg ships adapts to it and then the station becomes theirs.
The only thing that has a chance to do anything are Palpatine and Vader. and even they can be overwhelmed. The Borg will likely have accessed the imperial data banks and more to have learned about the two's sorcerous ways. and they'd determine that they would be a threat and hunt them down. With Borg Sesnsor tech they could easily find a man that is more machine than man and beam some numerous cattle drones to surround him in the hope of assimilating him. If they mange that then the Galactic empire will be forever known as the 1st Galactic borg Empire(in honour of Palpatine declaring it the first galactic empire.
How ever if the two sides are fighting from the get go, the Imperial navy with all you said would be against the borg, will likely decimate the borg seeing as the Borg don't typically use more than one ship unless they deem the enemy a high level threat like Species 8472. But if Unimatrix Zero is in this fight, the Imperials will not survive even then. They wouldn't know about the Borg Queen nor that killing her or destroying Unimatrix Zero will stop or temporarily disrupt the borg as a whole.
Sorry for the long response. I am a fan of both series but i think the Star Wars Fans overlook how nasty the Borg can be.
The Borg are like an insidious dancer that can start metastasizing at any moment.
A few Borg on various levels of Coruscant, who have not yet been eliminated, can bring down a planet as complex as that.
The Empire has a disastrous problem, its weapons are standardized for manufacturing on an immense scale (which would accelerate the adaptation processes used by the Borg), not thinking about their adaptability to various situations that require the use of weapons and equipment to unknown situations, as happens with the Federation and even so they have to be thankful for not being the focus of Borg attention.
Borg would go through G..E. like crap through a goose.
the borg has species 8472 tech now. the borg would win easy.
cross-franchise comparisons tend to be a bit daft, this being no exception. i think the only interesting point this brings out is what is the point of fighters in star wars at all? they don't have enough firepower to damage the large ships, the borg could ignore whole fleets of them. so could the larger starwars chips (based on the various films and series) so why have them at all, appart from the eye-candy space dogfights
Interesting point. I wouldn’t call it daft since it’s a thought experiment. The fighters are only impactful when they fly inside the Death Star but in that case it was a game changer since the Starships couldn’t destroy it
It all boils down to how many Borg cubes can be destroyed by the Death Stars in under a minute. Before an army of Borg transport over and begin assimilating imperial soldiers minus force sensitive fighters.
Sidious could use the Force to throw a fleet of cubes into a sun. No more cube. While the Borg can, and would, overwhelm the technology, use of the Force is an inane ability, not a technological one. The Force cannot be assimilated. It really depends on how powerful Sidious and Vader are.
You will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.
we are the borg
It doesn't take that much to change and adapt to weapons fire or saber attacks. The force, would be detected, but the Borg, do to races with Mental type powers, like Betazids. A defense would be formed quickly. Droid factor, would be useless as well. They are walking computers and those can be hacked remotely or on contact. Borg Unimatrixs is like an Hydra. Cut off the head, another grows back aka transfers to another Unimatrix.
The only way to stop them, that somewhat effect. Is to strike at them on their Nanites. Also, if the Borg, came to the galaxy far far away, The empire needs to out right destroy the beach head in which the Borg had taken and no doubt set up an Transwarp gate and an unimatrix. Failure, will doom the galaxy.
Not sure who to root for with this one.
I know what would happen! I know who wins! Whoever gets this going is served process and a judge issues an injunction preventing the battle from happening. Then the case settles and there is no battle.
Agreed it’s a fun scenario to think about, the Empire vs.The Borg and presented a fun “what if” scenario.
It would be very cool to see the Death Star completely obliterate a Borg tactical cube in one shot.
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Right a thought experiment!
The Empire would be probably be defeated in a protracted war, but once the Emperor was assimilated he would easily cause havoc with his force compulsion powers. Probably a civil war between the borg queen and Palpatine's borg.
Ohhh, what if the Borg assimilated someone with force powers and used it? I had not thought of that.
Can’t do that. Be born with the force to use it so even if they remade him or whatever the hell your saying, they couldn’t even use it😂. That’s how the force works believe it or not.
@GOCAPSDMV I guess I wasn't clear. No, I meant the Emperor would take over mentally with the force.
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just transport everyone off the death star into outer space, then take the death star ez pz lemon squeezy
Star Wars may win. Until the Borg assimilate Yoda on Dagobah.
The Borg we are. Assimilated you will be. The Force we now have. Resistance, futile it is.
The Borg would win easily, its how they work, they don't just appear in the heart of a major system and start blasting away they analyze, study, see if what is there is worth consuming and adding to their perfection and with all the resources available, the Borg would move in but slowly, they would be able to see with Star Trek sensor tech that the Star Wars galaxy is very large and any scout/single cube would need to be cautious or be overwhelmed by sheer numbers, for now.
First it would start with outposts, freighters, supply ships disappearing, strange rumors/sightings of unknown vessel(s) and outlying colonies in the outer rim areas no longer responding Then it would start becoming more and more frequent and by then its far to late.
The Borg will have assimilated hyperdrive tech, droid workings along with weapons and shields of everything they have come across and the Star Wars galaxy is full of that stuff. With access to hyperdrive knowledge and how navigational computers calculate it, they can start using the hyperdrive lanes to spread across the galaxy extremely fast.
Regular warp drive really tips the scale as no Star Wars ships can keep up with that kind of movement in system type combat, hyperdrives work by jumping, stopping, calculating another jump, then repeating until you are at your destination. Its very very fast but limited in what you can do inside a system itself or regular space as Borg cubes/vessels can fly around a speeds exceeding light and fire weapons at targets.
From studying what they know they are already immune to blaster fire, turbo lasers, ion cannons and such, Star Wars is not the only thing they have taken over, they have knowledge of countless species and tech that have allowed them to grow into what they are today.
Beaming is another thing, by using their sensors and from what they have learned of deflector shields they might be able to beam right through it, you can do it in Star Trek on older type shields with newer beaming tech and the Borg are masters of that shit, its what they do to invade.
After that like a virus they would start spreading, outlying worlds would go dark, Imperial and Rebel vessels would vanish/disappear from the rosters and not respond. Any person they assimilate the collective instantly knows what that person knew, tactics, military strength, all that becomes part of them. Weaknesses and strengths of the species, their methods, their reasons for resisting, the government of the galaxy, the Borg understand it.
The force is the only thing that could give them pause but Palpatine and Vader are all that is left really after the Jedi purge and two humanoid beings in the face of the borg collective are nothing. Plus since midichlorians are something the Borg have never come across, when they do they might consider it essential to assimilate it to add to their perfection like with the Omega molecule, they might consider it something they will stop at nothing to possess.
Remeber the borg Queen has free will and she could study the force and with the power of trillions of minds all accessing the force, the borg could start using it or at least she could and that is a scary thought.
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It's not even close maybe the emperor can kill a couple of borg drones before he's assimilated the empire's firepower is a joke
Right because being able to destroy planets is a joke.
Borg
Borg would crush the Empire not even close.
The borg finally get to the emporer, assimilate and then uses such force, it's all over all of it.... 😂😂😂😂
What are casual sci-fi fan. You can’t just use someone else’s force abilities. You have to be born with it. Yes they could re-create pine, but they can’t use the force because they weren’t born with it meaning they wouldn’t know how to use it. There’s a reason that the “rule of two” and the Jedi temple existed.
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Is this video AI generated? Certainly feels like it
how about against the shadows
Neither can shoot straight so it would go on forever. A draw.
Borg would batter the empire due to their large numbers, unified mind and strong shields. It wouldn't take long in a toe to toe battle to defeat the empire and the fastest imperial ship is a snail to a transwarp cube. In a war the Borg would win easily.
In a war, yes but in a singular battle, probably not. “The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.”
The transporter would be a game changer for the Borg.
You know the Borg already have transporters.
@@porter0311 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The Borg could just transport onto their ships and assimilate them. The Empire's massive weapons won't stop them.
@@chrishemry7 It would not be a game changer for the Borg though. Maybe where the Empire is concerned. But thats about it.
@@porter0311 The entire video is only about the Borg and the Empire.
@@chrishemry7 You're not getting it. You said transporters would be a game changer for the borg and that makes no sense since they already have that tech... The only side that it would be a game changer for is the Empire if they had it. smh
Attack Of The Drones
HAH, tell that to New Jersey residents.
IT always amuses me when Star Wars fans think they have any chance against Trek Opponents. The tech in Trek, even the original series is going to win. As regards later Trek, its not even a good warm up.
You underestimate the force, Star Trek is a b*tch franchise
Lol there would be no contest the borg would crush them
Empire. Definitely.
Vader and Palpatine would cut them down
Problem is that a borg cube has so many drones and how much the force could affect that kind of numbers is questionable.
so much of it is also automated and run by computers.
Vader and Palpatine are still human beings, they can only fight so long even with the dark side fueling them, they will tire eventually. Borg can take over entire planets easily, they adapt to attacks, Palpatine can throw force lighting at them all he wants but he will fall to trillions of borg coming at him, they can destroy any planet he is on with many different types of tech.
There are many types of things that have been used in Star Trek episodes that have destroyed or made planets uninhabitable for humanoid life, the Borg also have no qualms about "kamikaze" type attacks if it benefits the collective, again they have done like as they did against Species 8472.
Or the brog just transport Vader and palpatine 40,000 kilometers in to space they could also so just remove all there Midi-Chlorian from there cells
@@perkygoth26 the only way to remove the force from someone is to kill them, and even then we’ve seen a force ghost so no, you’re wrong. You have no understanding of how dangerous the force is!