BORG Busters - Starfleet's Anti-Borg WAR Ships!

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  • Since the Birth of the Federation, or indeed Starfleet, the peaceful resolution had always been at the forefront of any potentially hostile situation. Never building ships dedicated for combat, but instead focusing on exploration and scientific discovery. But could Starfleet actually defend themselves if the need occurred? Well, as anyone who hasn’t been living under an intergalactic rock since 1965 will attest, YES, we can, and we have done, many times.
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    Title: BORG Busters - Starfleet's Anti-Borg WAR Ships!
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  • @matthewdavies2057
    @matthewdavies2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    I want to see a Defiant refit armed with Janeway's anti-Borg weapons from the future.

    • @mowvu5380
      @mowvu5380 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      we all do Matthew, we all do

    • @staffan144
      @staffan144 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What ever became of / what happened to / where are Janeway's anti-Borg weapons?
      (Or did they disappear / never manifest once she went back in time and destroyed the Borgs / and changed the future?)

    • @matthewdavies2057
      @matthewdavies2057 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@staffan144 I read Starfleet ordered all Voyager Borg tech classified as to not violate the temporal prime directive.

    • @ciaranconlon84
      @ciaranconlon84 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I want it equipped with a spore drive. Imagine whole civilizations fighting for their lives against a handful of cubes, Defiant jumps in from nowhere, obliterates them with transphasic torpedoes and leaves again without a word.
      I don't know if canon covers this, but after the end of Voyager, if there are any Borg remaining then surely the federation would be their main target both for the technology and because of the threat they represent. It would seem to be an urgent matter to destroy as much of the remaining collective as possible before they can regroup and send everything they've got straight into sector 001.

    • @gups4963
      @gups4963 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@matthewdavies2057 Section 31 is like "lol, sure guys"

  • @jameslynch2399
    @jameslynch2399 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Enterprise E needs more screentime. It was a fantastic design. 3 movies wasn't nearly enough, and having its successor already being decommissioned in season 3 of Picard is a crime.
    Also the Akira-class is a great design. Would love to see more. It's basically a flying aircraft carrier, so it could be the focus of a very different type of story than what we usually see in Trek.
    And of course the Defiant, because that would mean we're getting more DS9 content (though hopefully not like the season 8 that was outlined in What We Left Behind because as much as I respect those guys and the work they did on DS9, their ideas for season 8 didn't appeal to me much at all).

    • @deathgnomes
      @deathgnomes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, I was sooooo excited to see the Odyssey on screen only to get knee'd in the gut as it almost immediately gets decommissioned and replaced by a ship a third it's size.

  • @MasterCleife
    @MasterCleife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When the defiant engaged the lakota. It was implied that starfleet didn't even know about the ablative armour modifications. Good old Chief O'Brien

  • @JCAH1
    @JCAH1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    It's funny how the inpenetrable Tachyon shields, the Quantum Slipstream Drive and the Transphasic torpedoes employed by Voyager, are never mentioned by Star Trek after Voyager made it back to Earth. Each of those technologies completely and immediately obsoleted existing technology in the entire Alpha quadrant, even including Warp Drive. Voyager brought many hyper-advanced technologies to Star Fleet (only three are listed here), yet all of them are completely ignored in all Star Trek episodes, spin offs and movies that take place after Voyager returned to Earth.

    • @BILLEON2005
      @BILLEON2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Super Duper EMP??

    • @Dr.Westside
      @Dr.Westside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They all violated the temporal prime directive . That is why Starfleet would not use most of the Voyager technologies . In Picard it shows that they certainly did use the stuff that didn't violate the temporal prime directive .

    • @JCAH1
      @JCAH1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@Dr.Westside I am not buying it. Starfleet would throw any and all morals and rules out the window in a heart beat, when it came to protecting the Alpha Quadrant against the Borg.

    • @dawgman6654
      @dawgman6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@JCAH1 I'm sure someone would try. But I guarantee that there were some time cop shenanigans going on that put a stop to many of the techs' usage.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dawgman6654 And those time cops would be ensuring their own existence was re-conned out. Can't have a 29th century Federation to enforce the Temporal Accords if the Federation gets wiped out before the 29th century. If for that reason alone, they would allow certain technologies to be employed as a "Hail Mary" to preserve the timeline.

  • @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547
    @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The Akira class is my favorite of all Star Trek ships. I wouldn’t mind seeing that class on screen more.

    • @darrenkeady6570
      @darrenkeady6570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She is a beauty of a ship.

    • @ihl8608
      @ihl8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the akira and the sovereign (Enterprise E) are my favorite.

    • @jasongould04
      @jasongould04 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      USS Avalon

    • @matthewjay660
      @matthewjay660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U.S.S. Thunder Child. Follow me; we go in harm's way. Allons-y! 👉🏻

    • @spiderboy43
      @spiderboy43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise, really wish the Akira was a hero ship in a future Star Trek show.

  • @MidnightSt
    @MidnightSt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    when you said "let's start with the best one", I shouted "Akiraaaaaa!"
    because it is. Seriously. Anyone who piloted Akira in that Bridge Commander mod which added basically all the ships that ever appeared in all of star trek knows first-hand that it's the best. It doesn't have torpedo launchers. It's got torpedo machineguns.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a reason why it is so popular in Star Trek: Online.

  • @RokkitGrrl
    @RokkitGrrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My idea of the perfect warship would have zero windows. Transparent aluminum be damned, I don't want a single porthole in my warship looking out into space. Holographic technology eliminates the need for structural weaknesses like that. Every time I see big picture windows in spaceships meant for war, I think of this Canadian lawyer who used to punk new blood at the law firm at which he worked.
    He would initiate newbies by hurling himself at one of the big picture windows at office parties. Naturally it would cause fear because they were working in a high-rise office building, and the street was many stories below. Sure enough, the security windows never broke and he would normally bounce off while the window was no worse for wear. But what he never considered is that while the plate glass window was impervious to his shenanigans, the frame that held the window was not.
    The last time he hurled himself at the window, the entire frame broke out, sending him and that unbroken window hurtling to his death. I think about this every time I see warships in space with windows.

    • @JFrazer4303
      @JFrazer4303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a weather-proof building code, there.
      I once was tasked to remove a big window on floor level on a mall that was being taken down. I threw a sledge hammer at it, and it made a hole and a star of cracks, and bounced back.

  • @newworld9133
    @newworld9133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Sabers, Norways and Steamrunners are all awesome. They all deserve screen time. I would love a 2 or 3 season series focused on a few of these ships and thier crew during the domi ion war.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really wish they had rebuilt the Norway Model and had her grace the screen in Voyager's episodes set in the Alpha Quadrant.

    • @blaablup222
      @blaablup222 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ds9 did... their not that powerfull for shure. They just are more war equiped than prior ships, nothing more. And their faster than most fed ships at that time (aka Miranda's Excelsiors and Constitutions (and that extreme rare ship, even in STO, the ambassador)

  • @ricogoldstar
    @ricogoldstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    If Q had not introduced Starfleet to the Borg way before, Earth would have been assimilated by now. Also, the encounter caused Starfleet to create true war ships that came in quite handy when fighting the Dominion. Q knew what he was doing.

    • @BILLEON2005
      @BILLEON2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      “Hypothetical speculation”

    • @shaunkelly9053
      @shaunkelly9053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Q generally does know what he’s doing because he’s seen all the variations of the multiverse. Of course it turns out the borg queen just wanted a friend and some therapy. 😒

    • @ricogoldstar
      @ricogoldstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@shaunkelly9053 😆😅 Facts !

    • @ricogoldstar
      @ricogoldstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@BILLEON2005 You must be that one Vulcan on the SCIENCE Directorate that said "Time travel is *impossible* ".

    • @BILLEON2005
      @BILLEON2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ricogoldstar
      I would actually be a Klingon near Uranus!!

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crew of the Defiant pushes buttons for a few minutes.
    Worf: "You fought like warriors!"

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Reminds me of the old game "Birth of the Federation"
    Once you unlocked the tech for building Defiant class "heavy escort", it was pretty much game over for everyone else, including any Borg cubes that might show up.

    • @jimbeam4736
      @jimbeam4736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played a great mod of this game today. It still is a gem.

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimbeam4736 Yeah, it's still a great game. Especially with the mods.
      The stellaris ST mod is pretty great too!

    • @jasonwestwood7092
      @jasonwestwood7092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Defiant had six torpedo launchers 4 forward and 2 aft they were the type 2 MK75 each could fire upto 8 torpedoes at ounce followed by a 5 second reload time.

    • @ArturiusMaxwell
      @ArturiusMaxwell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jimbeam4736 Wait.. you can play BotF now?

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimbeam4736 Please, share your link to that mod. Many of us want to try our hand at that game.

  • @MikeSmith-vz5us
    @MikeSmith-vz5us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Whoever designed the Sabre class must have been a fan of the N64. It looks just like the controller!

    • @Ghalion666
      @Ghalion666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was the other way around. Then they realized the ship needed more than 1 crew and the controller was an unwieldly beast.

    • @chefdean7257
      @chefdean7257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only helm the Sabre with an N64 controller.
      Nerd Law.

  • @williammay5300
    @williammay5300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If the USS Defiant is a tough little ship... That would make the USS ENTERPRISE NCC 1701 E bad to the bone in toughest of all ships!!!

  • @eddieschwab864
    @eddieschwab864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're forgetting the main joke behind the Defiant, Sisko's pimp hand, when he decides he wants to be like his great-great-great-great-grandfather Hawk...

  • @Grimmance
    @Grimmance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Came for the anti Borg ships, subbed for the defiant love.

  • @larryiscreating
    @larryiscreating 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, those digital remasters look WONDERFUL! 👀

    • @TheRVSN
      @TheRVSN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As well as nipples emphasized at 0:43.

  • @Stratoliner
    @Stratoliner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We never got enough screen time of both the Defiant and Enterprise E. Both great ships and IMO the "peak" of modern Star Fleet design language.

  • @shawnwilt7196
    @shawnwilt7196 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So happy to hear you describe the Defiant's fire power as Dakka!!!

  • @Bdady74
    @Bdady74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Miles Edward O'Brien"...that statement earned the Sub!

  • @michaeleaton222
    @michaeleaton222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for this! It was more enjoyable than almost any episode of New Trek :)

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I admit, I never expected to hear the phrase "ridiculous amount of dakka" in a Star Trek video.

  • @jameshunt1444
    @jameshunt1444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on this video - definitely more enjoyable (less dry) when the narrator is having fun.

  • @525Lines
    @525Lines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The borg cube is the laziest kitbash ever.

  • @IgoByaGo
    @IgoByaGo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed solely for the line "This ridiculous amount of Dakka." WAAAAAAAAAGH!

  • @whydoineedaname11
    @whydoineedaname11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have often wondered why so many Star Trek shows and movies seem to be centered on the support ship Enterprise, and not on the flagship Defiant.

    • @rianmacdonald9454
      @rianmacdonald9454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I loved the defiant, by far my favourite ship in all of star trek.
      edit: If it were up to me, I would have a fleet of Defiant class ships. Just awesome, from the look and design, to the in universe tech and ability of the ship. But mainly love the look of the ship, it looks like a war ship, as iconic as the enterprise looks, you don't come across it and go ''oh F, we are in trouble'' - the defiant looks menacing. Like the Douglas class ships from Star gate, purpose design, straight to the point, no extra fuss, all business of SEEK AND DESTROY.
      That is the only thing missing from the defiant, is fighter bays, but star trek doesn't use single craft fighters, so a fleet of defiant and Douglas class ships. perfect.

    • @warblerblue
      @warblerblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It defies expectations...

    • @porcorosso4330
      @porcorosso4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star fleets main mission is not war...
      That is why you see long term mission ships with science, research, diplomatic capabilities go into battle..

    • @whydoineedaname11
      @whydoineedaname11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@porcorosso4330 And here I thought Star Fleets mission was to assimilate civilizations into the collective so that they could achieve perfection...

    • @Anatol_Tobler
      @Anatol_Tobler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Defiant is not a flagship it is an attackship. To smal for that role. It is the strongest ship for its sice for shure but never a flaggship.

  • @benrunsacross2935
    @benrunsacross2935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It has always struck me how Star Trek and other properties have such tiny numbers when they access to vast resources. You would expect millions of ships not dozens.

    • @megadk93
      @megadk93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Starfleet used to run thousands, if not ten thousand of ships simultaneously even before the threat of Borg and Dominion was known. Just look at the serial numbers, when the Voyager was launched, Starfleet had build 74.000 ships in little more than 200 years, and as some serial numers are used multiply, it could even amount up to 80.000. This roughly 350 ships per year, with less ships at the beginning. Kirks Enterprise was starfleet ship number 1701, 70 years after the founding of the Federation (but that doesn't mean Starfleet had only 1701 ships in these years. Maybe they used ships of the old planetary navies of the alliead races, so they didn't have to built a massive amount of ships in the first years). So I estimate that at the age of TNG, Starfleet is launching at least 700 new ships per year (!!!). That makes it obvious why the Federation was more than capable of defeating the dominion. They only had to change from an exploration fleet to a wartime fleet, which explains the setbacks in the early stages of the war. But numbers of ships were never a problem for the Federation, it was more about equipment and personell.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah a few things that bothered me is... NOT only are their numbers small. With their teleporting, and replicating tech alone they should be pumping out ships.
      Also as far as their larger ships go? They've got a RIDICULOUS amount of interior space that isn't used. Someone did the math on it, and helped you visualize it.
      Basically the ships are needlessly big, and super empty. Either they should increase the crew size or state why they are so big. (Could be machinery for all I care.)
      Also there is no way in hell the human race would not be building dedicated war ships. Even if it were truly just for defensive purposes. At least defending their sectors of space, and not going out to explore like the Galaxy class.
      It would not be logical to take the chance. Also it is against human nature.
      I don't care what anyone says. Warships are awesome. If I were the Emperor of Mankind I would be building them just to build them, and pray I would never need to use them. (I'd be making a battleship with six 42" guns, as that is the answer for everything.)

    • @benrunsacross2935
      @benrunsacross2935 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dianapennepacker6854 yeah as I’ve grown older I haven’t stopped enjoying Star Trek but I do see it as more fantastical and less SciFi. That’s ok within its own setting provided it stays consistent with it. New trek popped the ‘utopian’ bubble and that really makes all the other inconsistencies and contradictions stand out.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benrunsacross2935 That is a good point on in universe.
      Are any of the new treks decent? I tried watching Picard. Couldn't get past the first episode honestly. There is what... Two ongoing now? A third coming out?
      I tried watching a random episode of Discovery. Didn't like the cast.
      Oh speaking of war. The soldiers with their rifle phasers or whatever were awesome. I want to see some Exoskeletons, and Terminators from 40k using teleporting tech to blink in and out behind Borg to kill them.
      Trek just needs exoskeletons period.
      Forgot what series those soldiers popped in.
      The USS Vengence was cool too... The design anyway. The name, and everything was NOT Trek at all. Vengeance is just a name for "This ship is for offensive purposes only. I'm the bad guy".
      Anyway the Defiant is my favorite Trek ship. Possibly top 3 favorite sci fi ships of all time. Sort of weird they didn't make more as they were so effective. Or why the Federation never used cloaking devices. (I think it was a treaty). Cloaking devices on a science ship would be a good idea for defensive purposes, and for not being seen by pre warp civilizations.

  • @badgerwildgaming6908
    @badgerwildgaming6908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The defiant is the next stage of, "any faster and it will fly!"
    Now it's, "any faster and she'll fly apart!"

  • @augustjsb
    @augustjsb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't know if it's classified as a ship or a station and it's entirely possible that you've already done it, but I think it'd be interesting if you did one on the 32nd century Federation/star fleet headquarters.

  • @leszekwolkowski9856
    @leszekwolkowski9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am writing my doctorial thesis specifically on this topic. Fascinating and a much misunderstood subject, live long and prosper!

  • @allnamesaretakenful
    @allnamesaretakenful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Defiant is the coolest Federation Ship.

  • @williamhelus3522
    @williamhelus3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starship: USS Voyages took on Borg cube by itself.
    Metaphasic Armor.
    Metaphasic torpedoes.
    BullyBilly.

  • @alessandrocava4701
    @alessandrocava4701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait till they make a ship which is just like 5 defiants welded together.

  • @gerdesilets
    @gerdesilets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the nebula class with the weapon/torpedoes pod seem useful too

  • @jonathanhunt5808
    @jonathanhunt5808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New series about Worf and Alexander could be great. Think about the possibilities.

  • @ZinXlX
    @ZinXlX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to see more Steamrunner combat. Just seeing volleys of torpedoes is just really good to see.

  • @hurst814
    @hurst814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d swear Captain Morgan Bateson was narrating this video.

  • @ODST_Parker
    @ODST_Parker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sovereign and Akira will always be my favorite canon ships in all of Star Trek. Defiant is definitely up there too. Saber is kinda like Starfleet's answer to the Klingon bird-of-prey concept, and I actually really like the design. Steamrunner and Norway have always felt like odd designs to me, but I do still like them well enough.

    • @aaronmurphy9353
      @aaronmurphy9353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you ever have a chance to play the old PC game Star Trek Armada, the Steamrunner has a massive long range weapon that when you have a full hotkey of them a single shot from all 8 ships will kill any other ship including a Cube. (It's one of my favorite games and one of my favorite ships to use to break an opponent's base defenses.)

  • @poh1617
    @poh1617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When there's something green, in your neighborhood. Who you gonna call......?

  • @StandingUpForBetter
    @StandingUpForBetter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video. I too LOVE the Defiant. I can still remember when it first showed up at DS9. Those were some good times. Actually one of my goals for vacation is to re-watch all the episodes of all the legacy Star Trek episodes, in timeline order from Enterprise, TOS, TAS, TNG, Voyager to DS9. I can't stand the "new" Trek.

  • @dredark3
    @dredark3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You damn right Chief O'Brien is important :)

  • @MrTravel4nutin
    @MrTravel4nutin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That phased cloak technology would have become the ultimate Borg buster. No way to adapt.

  • @BILLEON2005
    @BILLEON2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Defiant was essentially the Fighter Jet of the Star Trek universe!
    My interpretation was its maneuverability was its deadliest aspect!

  • @MrSteppenwolf0
    @MrSteppenwolf0 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Akira, Norway, and Steamrunner need a show of their own.

  • @biostemm
    @biostemm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Sabre is one of my favorite designs! I could see it traveling in packs of 3-5, patrolling areas and annihilating anyone foolish enough to engage them. It'd be cool to see a command variant that would lead such packs...

    • @mathiasloff6106
      @mathiasloff6106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me also. The Sabre is a wolf pack class and more versatile than the defaint. And it looks super cool.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed. I would love to see a Sabre Wing made of ships named after Aviation pioneers. USS Aldrin, USS Komarov, USS Gagarin, and USS Howard Hughs alongside the USS Yeager.
      And also, a Wolf-pack Squad named after submariner skippers who distinguished themselves. USS Gunther Prien (U-47, the Bull of Scapa Flow), USS Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock (The Smiling Sawfish- basis of Das Boot), USS Herbert Schneider (U-522), USS Helmut Rosenbaum (U-73), USS Kurt Sturm (U-410), USS Herbert Wohlfarth (U-556), USS Ottokar Arnold Paulssen (U-557), and USS Friedrich Guggenberger (U-81)

  • @HITMANPegas
    @HITMANPegas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This just makes me want to play Star Trek Armada.

  • @Timeward76
    @Timeward76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the federation's warfleet proves that humanity being so laser-focused on exploration for so long was almost a mercy. When the time came for starfleet to build dedicated warships, they gave *everyone* a run for their money.

  • @kirk001
    @kirk001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steamrunner is near and dear to my heart. My first encounter with the ship was from the Star Trek RTS game (can't remember the official name), and yes, it's a giant torpedo launcher with warp drive. If I recall correctly, in the game, they launched poleron torpedoes which were longer range than any other weapon, and had a larger area of effect damage than other weapons. If you wanted to rain long range massive destruction on a target, it was the ship to use. Ahh fond memories.

  • @ajteer
    @ajteer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorites of all mentioned are the Akira and the Sabre.

  • @DirtyDruid
    @DirtyDruid ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed when you said, "The most important member of starfleet ever, Miles Edward O'Brien"

  • @randybentley2633
    @randybentley2633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Out of all of this batch of Borg Busters, I'd have to go with the Akira class. The Defiant and Sabre classes are both built to task. The Norway class looks incomplete with that large section missing. If they'd, later on, introduced mission-specific pods then it might not look so ungainly. I guess we'll never know with its loss. The Steamrunner class, at least in my opinion, suffers from the decision to make the secondary hull ventral rather than dorsal. It's a small change that greatly alters the whole dynamic of the design, much like the original intention to use the original Constitution model inverted before that was thankfully changed.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget that the Reliant was supposed to have the rollbar UNDER the hull with the naccelles above. A mix-up resulted in what turned out to be a great way to differentiate the two hull designs in Wrath of Khan.

    • @randybentley2633
      @randybentley2633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidford3115 Yep, but what we got in TWoK was a happy accident but conversely the decision to change the Steamrunner in FC was deliberate.

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's okay to be defiant about the Defiant...
    It is, after all, a tough little ship...

  • @dswynne
    @dswynne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite? The Defiant class, thanks to it having, you guess it, "ablative armor".
    Also, if you guys at Trek Central haven't done so, can you take a look at the ships from STO and FASA? There is actually a monitoring ship in the FASA series that is nothing more than a sphere. Not kidding. A SPHERE. Now THAT is a radical design for a Starfleet ship.

    • @jamesbeach7405
      @jamesbeach7405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of those FASA designs made it into Starfleet Command 1 and 2 which were really good games with great looking ships.

  • @chefdean7257
    @chefdean7257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beneath the Defiant's beard . . . Is another quantum torpedo launcher. 🤓

  • @matthewjay660
    @matthewjay660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll be on the Akira-Class U.S.S. Thunder Child. Follow me. We go in harm's way. Allons-y!

  • @A7XBradyMCS
    @A7XBradyMCS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I laughed at the chuck Norris reference. Didn't expect that. Love it.

  • @fangslore9988
    @fangslore9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the Sovereign class was built specifically with combating the borg in mind, however the sovereign class was specifically kept out of the dominion war because they were the latest ships in the fleet and ultimately kept in reserve idiotically by starfleet brass and relegated them to patrol duties within star fleet's core worlds such as Earth, Vulcan and Andoria. apparently starfleet wanted to keep their strongest ships within these systems however from star trek nemisis or one of the other ones involving the enterprise E the sovereign class did see some light combat on these patrols, and since none were confirmed destroyed it seems they were more then a match for dominion ships.
    the movies have been proven canonical by star trek lower decks quote about the California class "don't go refitting the ship, i dont want it coming out all sovereign-y" which means the movies are canon if anyone wants to try to dispute it
    in universe: idiot admirals decided to keep their most powerful ships as security details for the capital worlds of the federation
    out of universe: Sovereign class wasn't designed yet and was kept to the movies to avoid confusion

    • @Zhortac
      @Zhortac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, them admirals keeping those ships back to protect the core worlds, helped alot when the Breen leveled San Fransisco lol

    • @fangslore9988
      @fangslore9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zhortac yeah were were they having a tea break over vulcan?

    • @DanielBrown-sn9op
      @DanielBrown-sn9op 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One Sovvy could have f****d up the Breens attack on Earth, but SF foolishly didnt use them in the big battles. The Romulan D'Deridexes were too slow and clumsy to run down and engage the Dominion and Breen mother ships. Sovereigns could have made it very hard on the Jem Hadar by chasing them down, freeing the Romulans to take long range shots at the Dominion fleet. # SF brass wet their pants.

    • @fangslore9988
      @fangslore9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielBrown-sn9op this is true, but star fleet's command kept the sovereigns out of the war, and why they made that kind of tactical choice is idiotic, its like starfleet didnt want to risk their most advanced ships in a war

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielBrown-sn9op The point of the D'Ds is that they strike from ambush. Think submarine warfare. That is the Romulan way: strike from the shadows and then retreat back into darkness. Speed isn't a factor with those tactics.

  • @williamoverton7775
    @williamoverton7775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The defiant is so potent a weapon is because it like a motorcycle. Which is to say a big reactor in a tiny ship

  • @MultiMagnis
    @MultiMagnis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    during the dominion war there were only 3 soverign ships made thus they were very important to 1. keep out of a trap and where close to starfleet heavy assets to defend

  • @sethseymour2917
    @sethseymour2917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One Millennium Falcon and a young Carrie Fisher is all a man really needs. 😂

  • @nyxorelius
    @nyxorelius ปีที่แล้ว

    Calling the Defiant the "Chuck Norris of Star Trek" is surprisingly fitting to me

  • @jimmiedmc1
    @jimmiedmc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could you imagine the deffiant with a spore drive along with quantom phase torpedoes in theory they could drop one in the core of every Borg vessel like throwing a grenade directly inside of a tank

  • @ramsoncole4605
    @ramsoncole4605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I forget what novel it was, but it's cannon that the 'planet eaters' from STTOS were designed by an ancient race to fight the Borg.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Books are not considered canon. Never have been.

  • @italianmiltyfriedman6264
    @italianmiltyfriedman6264 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How exactly did starfleet acquire the technology allowing such drastic miniaturization to create the defiant class?
    They went from small town sized ships to basically a shuttle, while increasing all power by about 100- 500x?

  • @Just-a-guy926
    @Just-a-guy926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about the assimilated La Serena at the end of Picard Season 2.

  • @georgecoons6872
    @georgecoons6872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we want to see a boxing match between the new 4000 meter borg cubes and the jem,hadar. stealing everything they got.. make it cannon.

  • @anthonyluclarocque1765
    @anthonyluclarocque1765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wolf359 wasn't a battle it was a Massacre...

  • @crazysnake1096
    @crazysnake1096 ปีที่แล้ว

    The saber class reminds me of a retool of the freighter destroyed in the beginning of Star Trek III: the search for sprocket.

  • @starvingpeoplecantcomplain
    @starvingpeoplecantcomplain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked the idea of the EMH, I never got it that a whole starship was functioning with a single doctor. Yes, for a ship with around 200 crewmen it’s possible to treat them for the occasional cold, burn or other injuries with a single doctor but in a combat situation or on a Galaxy Class it’d be absolutely inadequate even if you account for massively improved medical knowledge and technology.

  • @victoryengineer
    @victoryengineer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And the one ship that was a badass dealing with the Borg was not even mentioned. Did you forget about the heavily future tech modified shuttle craft piloted by future Captain Janeway? Tisk, tisk, that was the one I was waiting for.

  • @elviskess
    @elviskess ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Defiant rocks!! Never stop talking about it!! How about Section 31 using one in Lower Decks!!

  • @nicolasbazzano2028
    @nicolasbazzano2028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best anti-Borg ship is indeed the Defiant, but the AB ship we need to see more of is absolutely the Norway Class, poor girl only got to show off her lines that one time.

  • @chefdean7257
    @chefdean7257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're entering the battle of Wolf 359, in an Oberth class. Who ya gonna call ?
    " BorgBusters !"

  • @hpbifta
    @hpbifta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sovereign is fabulous, The Akira is not much more than an upside-down Enterprise NX, The Steamrunner is just a badly disguised hammer but Sisko's Pimp Hand.....What a little ship! It WILL kick A$$ and not even bother with names. After all what does it care if your "Designation" is 3 of 15,000? It just pasted you across the starscape and made you 1 of 15,000,000 floating little bits of flotsam.

    • @chrisdufresne9359
      @chrisdufresne9359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fun fact, the NX-Class was actually just a mirrored Akira.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisdufresne9359 Indeed. Rick Berman basically was pandering to the Akira Fanboys.

    • @chrisdufresne9359
      @chrisdufresne9359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidford3115 You mean himself? The designer for the NX class admitted in a video with SpaceDock that he just used the Akira because he liked it.

    • @davidford3115
      @davidford3115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisdufresne9359 But who approved the design? All final decisions lead back to Rick Berman.

  • @warmachine9846
    @warmachine9846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you predicted yes my favorite ship is the defiant-class. Because that little ship has big teeth

  • @saltyheathen8113
    @saltyheathen8113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Defiant class is now changed to Chuck Norris class. Which is the best class, nobody can ever be as useful as Chuck Norris class ships.

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As everyone nicknames it. The defiant, siskos pip hand

  • @LegatusLucius1994
    @LegatusLucius1994 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL the defiant the power of an Abrams cannon on the back of a Super Flea

  • @erichanastacio9695
    @erichanastacio9695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the Defiant has been proven, maybe a larger version is in order.
    Worf: Commander Riker, I now have a BIG, TOUGHER SHIP!.... BIGGER THAN YOURS!!!

    • @xedanis101
      @xedanis101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am now convinced this actually happened and that's the whole reason why Riker took command of a fleet of Inquiry Class ships in Picard. xD

  • @darlalathan6143
    @darlalathan6143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk all you want about the Defiant! I could listen to you all day about it! Live long and prosper!

    • @TrekCentral
      @TrekCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Darla!
      - Jack 🖖

  • @nevasoba5953
    @nevasoba5953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All i can remember is the defeat and the hopeless when facing the borg. Seemed like luck and cleverness would save the day many times. Staying ahead of the borg ability to adapt to the weaponry of the time. TNG was one of my favorite shows as a kid. I didnt see much of the later stuff so this is interesting to me.

    • @nevasoba5953
      @nevasoba5953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the psedo techno babble kinda throws me off.

  • @Zagoreni02A
    @Zagoreni02A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Akira is the best ship design in Startrek. She definitly need more screen time.

  • @volrathsstronghold
    @volrathsstronghold 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:14 *shows Akira class* "We'll start this one off OBViOUSLY with the BEST star ship..." - Yay! Akira for the win! - "It's the Defiant! - *confused look*

  • @Hazardx871
    @Hazardx871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    immediately subscribed after proper use of Dakka

  • @joemedley195
    @joemedley195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somewhere I saw some statistics that compare Star Trek battles to Star Wars battles. All I can say is, thank God Starfleet are the good guys.

    • @joemedley195
      @joemedley195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know it’s not logical, but I’m never going to really love any ship not numbered NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C,or D.

  • @Palmerrip
    @Palmerrip 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the official nickname of the Defiant: Sisko's Pimp Hand.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The B-52 Stratofortress has been in service for 67 years and there are no plans to retire it.

  • @edwardcollins741
    @edwardcollins741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Defiant of course! Reminds me of my alltime favourite kaiju, Gamera!

  • @kennyhagan5781
    @kennyhagan5781 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Defiant is a step in the right direction, I also really like the Magee class for many of the same reasons. I have always believed that the only way to safely explore this galaxy is to use a variety of ships in small, discreet fleets,large capital ships to act as a base with smaller, escort types to carry out the actual exploration of the nearby systems. I have thought about this for the last few decades, showing just how much idle time I have been forced to kill.

  • @jimtilley1158
    @jimtilley1158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saber class is the perfect design. It is a grown up Defiant.

  • @NiTeHaWKnz
    @NiTeHaWKnz ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly.. that exchange between Worf, Riker and Picard about the Defiant probably the best of theo movie.

  • @Zenmyster
    @Zenmyster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Borg were a space age Frankenstein's monster. Re animated corpses with technical augmentation.
    Other races, being technical/industrial, used standardized equipment and weapons. The Borg were much more adept at standardization and quick to come up with a standard reaction.

  • @ledgic1317
    @ledgic1317 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The uss Prometheus was a damn fine ship as well

  • @MrTilbin
    @MrTilbin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Defiant was 100% perfect for a space station for defense.

  • @ramiroequipilag1316
    @ramiroequipilag1316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Defiants success defies me of why that ship wasnt mass produce to create a sturdy defensive grid

  • @Luisppk2812
    @Luisppk2812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I wrong? ...what about the voyager?
    At the end of the season, voyager was created to invincible against the borg with the technology given by admiral Janeway. So, in the end, the voyager fight against all the hive by itself.
    Also, I really think there would be more ships like that, but seems everyone else forgotten.

  • @hatias6407
    @hatias6407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hang on. I heard him say “stupid vinculum”… is our narrator here a member of the sabbat?

  • @fernandogarajalde4066
    @fernandogarajalde4066 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:02 I personally call it “The Massacre at Wolf 359” but that’s just me.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dare you, Central, to do an entire episode in a bad Pickard impersonation. I would. the badder the funnier, if heartfelt.

  • @Bruisedmelon
    @Bruisedmelon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you heard about the new ship… I think it might be called the Defiant?

  • @ConsolasEight
    @ConsolasEight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:33 - you reversed his face and you freaked me out! My brain was at the same time recognising Patrick Stewart and thinking he was someone else entirely.