When Cops Serve INSTANT KARMA to Karens | Hasanabi reacts to True Crime
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- When Cops Serve INSTANT KARMA to Karens | Hasanabi reacts to True Crime
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Hasanabi (AKA Hasan Piker) is an American Twitch streamer and political commentator. He is known for covering the news and discussing politics from a left-wing perspective. He also plays a variety of video games, reacts to funny videos and occasionally checks out memes made by the community.
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“how someone could maintain this level of entitlement after 80 years on this earth?” has this man never met an 80-year-old?
Lol it gets worse with age
I can’t imagine Hassan at 80 after his response to Ludwig’s minuscule commentary lol
For real tho. I work a service job, and the most intitled people are always elderly people.
Agree with Hasan completely. People are so hungry for punishment in America. After seeing a loved one have a manic psychotic episode and another suicidal family member who did suicide by cop, I would never advocate for someone to be manhandled by police no matter how annoying or unreasonable they are being. White, black, brown, etc.
Agree. I will never call 911 again after the police manhandled my loved one that was having a manic episode. I asked for an ambulance and officers came and escalated the situation. What I thought would be an ambulance ride was them in the back of a cruiser and having cuff bruises and escalating. 😢😢😢 fuck 12
Manic episode is a lot different than someone assaulting an officer though tbh.
But I think I get what you're saying.
@@ceIIardoorno shit i don’t think the original commenter needed you to clarify
Nobody deserves to be treated the way cops treat most people.
Hard agree. My dad has ongoing drug induced psychosis and has called the cops on himself several times for “being stalked”, and they are always so rough.
Now in my area they are starting to send out mental health nurses with cops to these calls but it’s few and far in between
People from a country with no rehabilitation: "Rehabilitation doesn't work"
100% - as someone from a country with a rehabilitation focused criminal justice system, I can assure you it works. it's not perfect because no system ever will. the recidivism rate is so much lower though and people can reintrage into society if they work on themselves.
The people who say it doesn’t work are l basing it off nothing.. you can look up the recidivism rate in America and in Norway and it becomes pretty clear that only one of them is doing something right
You mean your country doesn't leave a huge chunk of its population rotting in prisons under the assumption that they were born irredeemibly evil? Sounds nuts. @@solala1312b
@@solala1312b it absolutely does not lol it just lets them out sooner to commit more crime
It would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn tragic
My mom went to prison over nonviolent crime for almost a year. It really does destroy you on the inside and the outside and it doesn’t just stop with you, it affects the prisoner’s whole family. We suffered along with her that year. Not nearly as bad as her but we did too. It’s been two years and she’s never recovered from her time in prison. She’s a shell of her former self and there’s nothing I can do but sit back and watch. I wish people had more empathy, more compassion for others. And my mother is black, I’m black. It’s never okay for any race to be treated like this. And Hasan is right. If this happens to white people, it sure as hell happens to black people. It happened to my mom.
I feel so sorry for your mother, family and you. non-violent crimes are so overcharged, it is insane. nobody deserves to be strip searched on a almost daily basis for non-violent crimes 😢
@@solala1312b They really do strip you of your humanity in there over nothing. It’s just awful. And thank you, I appreciate your comment ❤️
Should it only be violent crimes you go to prison for? All crimes affect other people negatively. Just because you aren’t physically hurting someone doesn’t give you a pass.
@@balldropper3423 nobody said any of those things. there is a difference between hurting property and hurting a human. stop being unreasonable.
@@balldropper3423 My mother’s crime hurt no one. And I’m not saying that people should get a pass even if they don’t physically hurt someone. Where the fuck did I say that? Your response to my comment is trying to debate me? Really? All I asked for was more compassion for others. For people to stop dehumanizing others who break the law. Jesus fucking christ.
I kinda love the 80 year old lady's sass. "You got a weapon?" "Yeah. My mouth."
The second situation is definitely a real life example of how police almost never deescalate. That pig was about to straight up wrestle a woman with a baby strapped to her chest because of her "attitude,"
10000%. The way she responded to officers was escalated by their approach, but is also evidence of her distrust of law enforcement and the system (in a very understandable way).
She would rather go to jail and arrange for her child to be safe, than interact with law enforcement any further
This really gets at 'housing is a human right'...
As opposed to depending on charities that may or may not be connected to christian gospel outreach organizations.
This is also Florida/America. not the easiest place to get an abortion if she had desired one. I know I'm stretching, but... it's all connected, ya know?
Housing. Medical access. Carceral states. Shifty employment.
I don’t know what made me more sad, her situation or how chat reacted to her situation. I don’t know if I would be capable to stay mentally stable being a homeless mother, can’t even imagine how frightening must be, she needed help, not punishment.
She was the one looking for the fight....maybe you forgot SHE punched the security guard 😂😂😂
She escalated the situation and sorry to tell you it's not the rest of the publics job to take her sh#$ because she can't act civilized 😂😂😂
When cop lovers are like “if you hate cops so much, who are you gonna call the next time you’re in trouble” this is the “trouble” they’re talking about 😂
😂😂 two examples it's the person assaulted calling the cops, and we are watching the person who is aggressive be arrested 😂😂
@@rad1461right , Hassan is so eager to be liked by his audience out of the 20k and dwindling commenters
he chooses the “ if they were black” commentary , and shits on the police lol
@@devonwilliams2423 if you hate him so much maybe don't watch him religiously? Like I don't like destiny so I avoid watching him, and I live a relatively happier life due to that. There's this guy named Ben Shapiro who you'd probably really like since he also loves sucking off law enforcement.
I used to be a correctional officer before I became a leftist. This quote from Dune sums it up for me perfectly: "The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy."
I'm glad you were able to see the problems of the criminal justice system and how it break people permanently. also I'm glad you are part of the community, we need voices like yours!
It's completely insane when people see a less-than-life prison sentence and go "that's it????" Like yeah 25 years, most of someone's good years in life, yeah that sounds ridiculously awful and a brutal punishment. A lot of these people deep down would gleefully accept a system where every punishment is death.
Being a prison officer is not necessarily a bad thing if you're treating the prisoners well and taking a rehabilitative approach
@@pancakingonYou can’t put out the fire from inside the house. You either need to become a class traitor, or be complacent.
@@Suo_kongque What? In literal terms, yes, one can put a fire out from inside the house
Can you tell me what you mean? Talk to me like I'm a centrist normie
I absolutely lost it at "the officer should be commended by how well he's handled this situation so far" LMAO. We basically live in an ongoing simulation of Grand Theft Auto, I honestly don't know how Rockstar is actually able to continually satirise the state we live in in this country today.
That 80 year old was clearly a danger to society, that level of pure beautiful chatting shit was dangerous!😂
did u see the new trailer, it isn't even satire, its just a mirror now lol
I just make sure I balance it out with a healthy dose of going to watch the NPC's in Grand theft Auto give reasoned and well thought out responses to insanely direct questions like "are we in The matrix right now?" And then being shamed by how they process a whole existential crisis and come to terms with the daunting existence in which you just have awaken them to..... During gameplay... A sense of calming panic will just wash away any other thoughts or emotions for a second of over processed bliss induced cognitive dissonance 🤣🤣 after this I go and watch videos of people who have thought their dogs how to communicate with buttons and how they can verbally Express their dissatisfaction.... I'm not breaking that fourth wall until.....
Honestly, this is one of the reasons I think it's taking them so long. Definitely not the main reason of course, but like genuinely, how do you even make a GTA-like satire version of the US in the last ten years without just copying real life?
Is it satire anymore if the world mimics it perfectly?
It’s so funny how the Karen called a bunch of Spaniards a Mexican 😭😭😭
They’re literally European Spanish speakers 😂
Spaniards? You mean Mexican-Europeans? (/s)
It's also funny cause Spain is an insanely racist country
even the news report called them Latinos tf is going on
Reparations, basically. You help the world get as f***ed up as it is rn and it bites you in the ass.
I agree w Hassan. It sucks so much that our “justice” system focuses on punishment over reform and protecting ppl.
that babies mom be yelling all the time because that baby was so chill. like it was normal.
Its so funny being a white mexican (i know those people werent) and having people be racist towards you. Its like, dude, im white. Put some points into your racism skill tree.
I don't want to be stucked past midgame with a sht build, is there any way of re-specing??
So am I. But I have every right to get offended because I know that they don’t only speak to white Mexicans this way, but all Mexicans. It’s just disrespect to the culture.
Felony assault used to mean somebody was injured. Like, the idea that any scuffle is felony assault is insane. I don’t want to get punched but I also don’t think someone who punches me deserves HARD time....probably anger management
To be fair it could be a state by state thing. Kinda like how second degree murder and manslaughter has several different meanings depending on the state.
I agree. I think in this case, at least for that state, it was because it was a security officer who was "assaulted" that made it an automatic felony. But yeah, at the very least, there should be a mark left on the "injured party".
Some states have very broad, vague laws when it comes to battery and assault, which doesn’t help.
The baby lady made me sad. The police did nothing but escalate from jump. They’re the professionals. They were closing in on her, touching her, yelling, not listening. At one point she even says please, says you’re triggering me and even says she doesn’t have the ID to give and they continue to escalate.
well, she lied about not having her id.
@@ghostwriter4642 I don't get it, is ID a separate document to a driver's licence or not? because it is here in my country. if someone asks for ID and I don't have it, then the cops have to ask for another form of identification.
@@solala1312b ID is synonymous to drivers license here in the states. People with state issued ID cards are a minority
@@Chrisy7 what is more likely that someone doesn't have an ID or doesn't have a driver's license? in my country you have to have an ID but a good chunck people don't have a driver's license.
second cop took the heat out big time
the difference between cop 1 and cop 2 gave me whiplash
I remember when this came out about the pool Karen , I was telling my boss how the cops were on Blair’s side. He’s a maga guy so he got pissed and started acting like Blair 😅
Wait he was mad at Blair or on her side?
@@stevealan6113the boss was on blair’s side.
“My phones gone I think they stole it” “I have no idea what phone I pay monthly for!!!”
Wonder if she just saw one of theirs and was like "ooh, I can pretend it's mine and cause even worse trouble for them". Because who doesn't know what type of IPhone you purchased?? I bought my galaxy S20+ 5 years ago and still know exactly what phone it is.
@@bigschmill294very possible, but I think it's just that she's a blackout drunk sugar baby whose man buys all her electronics for her, so she's probably never really figured out that there are different versions.
Idk I would have said the same “idk the small one!” I can’t keep track anymore and I don’t even change my phone often. I replaced my 6s or se or whatever 2-3 years ago. 10?11? 13? Not sure. I think it was an odd number tho. And no I don’t pay for it monthly bc I buy them outright
She did the same with the sandals, too. One of the girls from the Spanish family was wearing Hermés sandals, when she’s talking to the coo she mentions not being able a to find “her” sandals. “They’ve probably never had anything nice in their life.” Lady was trying to commit theft by cop????
She was clearly drunk. Either she genuinely was trying to get them in trouble or she drunkenly lost it and assumed they stole it (and her sandals too).
The girl with the kid, they could’ve given her a PPA(private person arrest) and she would’ve had to go to court. If she can’t appear she gets a warrant. They don’t have to take her away from her child.
You can tell that's when she gets really unhinged, I'm not sure how the cop felt saying that would do anything but scare the shit out of her and make her more manic. Maybe that's what he wanted.
Yeah but if she assaulted a person, having a baby doesn't protect you from the law. The person who assaulted the guy is there, she is resisting detainment, I mean it sucks and I feel bad but I think the cop is just doing his job. If the standard was to give a PPA, I think you would be right, but it's not.
You don't walk away from violent crimes typically. The problem is, if you insist on that mother walking away, you have to let every 25-40 year old man who does it as well.
@@nevadanate4957 This is a very interesting take because that absolutely does happen: Cops show up to domestics where wives and children are being beaten, talk to the perpetrator, then turn right back around and let them keep doing it. There are literally dozens of cases where they come back and the family is dead because they let the abuser walk away.
@@noahboucher125 yeah well that kinda sounds like a fluke more than the rule. Domestic disputes have historically been treated in a tricky way. I've also heard PLENTY of the opposite - where the man is automatically arrested and removed for the night in all situations regardless of who even was the aggressor "because they are required to." If some of them are not arresting abusers because they didn't have proable cause or the partner begged them to not arrest the person, or because cops are biased and many of them are abusers at home, then that's not really following the theory of the system. I promise you won't find a similar situation with robberies, mugging, and assaulting strangers in public.
Things in America are so desperate and depraved that, sometimes, the only catharsis you can get is from seeing others get taken down a peg. Justice gets boiled down to retribution alone.
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What a great nation. This made me feel more american than ever (i'm european)
Seriously. Why would you put your hand on other people
The baby lady is OBVIOUSLY A DANGER TO HER CHILD! What DCF needs to investigate her, seriously. God knows what else she'll do with or around that baby. Fck that.
I feel bad for the second lady 😭 She’s wrong but she seems stressed and she probably lost her job after this. There’s no excuse to assault people but that officer continues to prove how unqualified cops are to handle even the most minor of situations. I wonder if they taught him to yell “what is your deal?” over and over in his training 💀
The cop was acting like a teenager at best and a little kid at worst, and he's supposed to be the authority or responsible party in this situation. I love it when cops bring up your "tone" or your "attitude" as an excuse, like what, did I hurt your feelings, tough guy?
The woman is supposed to be calm and collected when the cop isn't expected to do the same? That's hogwash.
Idk man he wanted her to identify herself because he was conducting an investigation and she refused. She’s being alleged to have assaulted someone (a security guard at that) and you want him to just let her go? Why is there no energy like this for the woman ENDANGERING HER CHILD? You said she seems stressed lol really that’s all you have to say about her?
the cops also lied to her which I consider immoral, even if it is legal
I agree, the situation is hard since she had allegedly committed felony assault, but that didn't prevent the other officer from stepping in and calmly explaining the situation to her. The first officer might have been angling for an admission of guilt, and mishandled the situation. I'm glad no one else got hurt though.
Im just really not vibing with people acting like we need to just let assault happen. She assaulted someone with her child on her chest. Do we really want that child to stay with her? The child was also super relaxed. Likely because this was not the first time it’s experienced this type of situation. I hate cops. I believe they are awful. But also when someone assaults another person they are violating another person. They are taking away someone’s bodily autonomy. Why are we acting like that’s not a serious enough issue to be arrested for??????
The stun lock deletes make my day complete!!
The Second Lady could be mentally unwell. This is why police should work with actual social workers
1:30:03 That would be hysterical if the crime for assaulting someone over 65 _did_ apply to other old people though lmao. Like two old people get into a sissy slap fight and they both get slammed with additional charges for hitting an elderly person. Like the judge shakes their head at them all, “Everyone knows it’s a crime to throw hands while old.”
That is quite funny.
And for some reason, I kind of feel like in a circumstance like you've described,z maybe they really could add that as an aggravating factor?
Hahaha, am I stupid, or has that actually been a real thing at any point?
I'm looking this up now, man.
@@MizterMissilewould this mean if two children get in a fight they also get charged harsher because they hurt children? 🤔
@@solala1312b Children don’t know any better. Old people have had their entire lives to figure out that you can’t just hit other people and get away with it.
SHE put the baby in harms way. SHE decided to assault the security officer with her child. SHE put the baby in danger riding a scooter. SHE had the horrible attitude when the officer approached her. Bro had some real delusional takes on that one
That first situation felt like the cop was doing everything in his power to side with the openly racist group.
Talking to the people he suspects are Mexican: "What do you want us to do?" "there was probably some mutual antagonism, some cat fighting..."
**Several unrelated white people having to confirm your story later for it to be taken seriously**
"We can't make them leave, ma'am. We have identified them, someone called the property mamager..."
Nah the lady wit the scooter is crazy that baby in danger my best friend broke his jaw when he hit a rock on one of them electric scooters baby got no protective equipment aswell i hope they take that child away from her
I agree but there is a danger with riding around with a newborn strapped to your chest. One good fall would be harmful for the baby’s health. And according to the witness she was riding it recklessly in an area she wasn’t supposed to riding at. That’s why the confrontation started and escalated to where we see this. So many people are in the wrong in the entire situation.
as a CNA, ive seen my 80 yo residents punch, kick, slap and bite eachother AND the staff on a daily basis 😂 they just stop caring after a while
At least they care for each other longer than their government or any of us ever cared for them
"What 80 year old is running around and deserves to be handcuffed." Rupert Murdoch is 92.
The fact the baby isn't fazed by any of that shows you he's used to that and likely worse.
Odds are the lady with the baby is not going to prison. I’m not sure if hasan is just using the terms interchangeably or what but that lady is going to jail. She will get bonded out, and have to show up in court. Probably a possible fine or community service. People don’t go to prison for assaults that don’t result in bodily harm, especially white women. Additionally, have you ever fallen from a scooter? You fall forward. If that lady eats it off that scooter, gravity and her 200lb+ body will kill that child.
People are mostly clueless about the justice system. They even think being arrested/cuffed and pretrial jail are "punishment" as if that's related to the sentence lol
After working in a nursing hime for 3 years and getting my ass beat almost every day by some of the smallest oldest women I've ever seen. I will never doubt the level of damage someone can do based on looks. I can't explain it, but it always seems like the smallest ones are the meanest and strongest. I quit the nursing home after one of my co-workers got a concussion from a resident, and another got rabies shots after being bitten. Dont mess with old people, they are like wild animals😅
Omg 😂
Rabies shot? Like..... That seems kind of insane and over the top haha. The old person wasn't a sick wild animal lol. Seems like a weird precaution to me.
Not to say that it doesn't get dicey in nursing homes as I have worked in some but it seems like there are not enough protocols in place in order to be able to either take preventive measures or redirective/ de-escalation options in this facility that you were working in. unfortunately making it unsafe , stressful and high intensity for everyone, probably making the turnover rate very high with less and less trained proper staff to be able to do such things as implementing these preemptive tools smhh
@@shauntesoflycool and that’s related how
Wtf sort of nursing home is this where there are rabid animals running around?
Gotta disagree with Hasan. I align with him on better reform, less punishment, etc. but that baby was in direct danger. That child can't stay with her. I won't pretend to be an authority on parenting or social work. I hope they are reunited in the near future, but that is not acceptable behavior with a child strapped to your chest. It's not a matter of punishment for me. The child has to be taken away until they are proven to be safe in the mother's custody again.
The problem is, that is a detail that only you and other viewers are considering. It has absolutely noithing to do with why the police arrested her or why the baby was going to be taken away. So it feels odd like you're justifying the arrest for an unrelated detail.
@@nevadanate4957yeah the key reason why they arrested her is that she’s racist who thinks she can get away with attacking someone because theyre black.
The guy a 10:00 minutes has definitely called people snowflakes but want us to believe he was scared of some people walking into his general area.
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whilst the bigger picture of “if police treat a pregnant homeless white woman like this, how will they treat black people” is obviously a stark reality to come to terms with,
it’s hasan kinda like glossing over the fact that she still did hit an elderly lady - unintentionally or not, through focusing on the bigger picture has caused this byproduct.
like, why can’t 2 things be true at once?
she needs to be held accountable for what she did - removal of the child? there simply isn’t enough evidence in this 1 video to claim this is the one true solution -
prison? for this? idk how that could rehabilitate or be productive.
accountability? YES.
just because her situation is seemingly quite dire from what we can tell from the video, she still can’t go round hitting people without relative consequence because acab.
American justice system is absolutely cooked man. 😩
okay, charging an 80 year old for felony assault and cuffing behind the back is ridiculous. community service, some anger management.... i feel like thats much more appropriate and actually does some good
Yeah we should have certain groups who can do whatever they want..
Should we pick a income level, race, or age?
Or maybe who cares the rules apply to everyone period. I'll give we you a hint....these people got this way because people have given them the privilege of acting this way their whole life. This isn't the first time they acted a fool that's why they are so comfortable being this way😂😂😂
@@1just4laughs im confused, you did read the part where i said "community service and anger management" would be a more appropriate consequence, right?
@@dannyjesse3655lmao no, fuck old people. If you’re 70 and still acting like an ass. Your arrest is probably long over due
@dannyjesse3655 that's what she got, bro.
@@dannyjesse3655it’s not appropriate if it was an assault. Idc how old you are.
"shes going to jail for vibes" no shes going to jail for assault, its genuinley frustrating watching him find any reason to justify his bias aainst police. its almost like you have to follow the laws regardless of what age you are lmao
Thank you for cutting the stunlocks, your doing gods work
this women reminds me of my mother. she was homeless living in a car and she was treated like shit by everyone who should have loved and cared for her she was harassed by police. my mom became an annoying person because she had to fend for herself her entire life when you are left with nothing and the only thing you love is strapped to your chest you become an unbearable person. that women probably had a life filled with more bad days than good and even the women who she attacked said she didn’t want anything bad to happen to her. because i am sure she realized the gravity of the situation. when you aren’t treated like a human being you become insufferable of out necessity for survival.
I love how the minute she acts up, she's "endangering her child" like she's supposed to just curl up and let stuff happen to her. Then the first thing the cop does is threaten to take her baby, like that's ever a helpful thing to say to someone in distress. Being annoying isn't a crime.
@@noahboucher125 Cops should de-escalate but that doesn't automatically make her in the right. If you assault someone and the police turn up, there is at least some expectation that acting irrationally, screaming, and refusing to co-operate is going to have an impact on whether the police believe you are a danger to those around you.
I think this mother would have greatly benefited from having a home, some kind of transportation and the ability to keep her job. then she would have likely never acted in this way. now she lost everything, probably her housing / child / job all at once. I don't think anybody was helped here, including the elderly woman who was hit.
@@meurigjenkins there is no in the right, there are rights and wrongs. She was in the wrong for attacking the lady but the cop may be in the wrong for arresting her and escalating it. Being "in the wrong" doesn't mean alright let's kill ya and destroy your life willy nilly, all bets are off. Imagine thinking that responses to problems can't have consequences that aren't worth it.
@@noahboucher125she endangered her child by having it strapped to her chest and trying to fight someone while on a scooter…
I'm the chatter who talked about how Chinese cops handle these kinda situations and I just wanted to specify that the cops I saw told the neighbors that were already gathered around the situation as bystanders to keep an eye on the woman in the future, in an offhanded way. Not that they were knocking on the neighbors doors and telling them to snitch or something... I feel like chat was getting the wrong idea about that lol.
Oh and another way the Chinese police deals with small situations like this is they'll make the person write like a 3 page essay displaying their remorse and hand it in to the police station lol. It's the preferred method of disciplining kids at school too.
What kind of cops were these? I’ve been to China (Shanghai, Beijing) and noticed there seemed to be a hierarchy of police officers. The friendly cops in yellow vests, the serious cops in blue uniforms, and the very sinister guys who stood on pedestals and wore all black.
I was curious as to which ones would often respond to actual emergency calls.
@@boot_boy_6945 they were mostly yellow vests
I thought Chinese people just invite the Karen/Criminal to a kung-fu duel
neighbors used to watch over each other here in Europe as well. you used to know your neighbors, maybe meet them occasionally and help out when needed. those communities usually help people spiral out of control and can prevent certain situations by coming together. I think that's what the Chinese police meant by that. they wanted the neighborhood to pay attention to her in case she needs help or get rowdy again.
I was really curious about that! Definitely seems like the better way to handle it, at least in a situation like this one.
that first Karen is 100000% on Klonopin and box wine she is tripping balls right now losing it lol. Jesus Christ that chick is losing it.
um, nah, speaking from experience, that's not it. it isn't a substance to be blamed here. it's literally the human being
ffs.
White women love box wine.
@@Jay_490 lol true
@@kittygoesWOOF it aint that deep.... both things can be true, she's def on some shit ( or off of it) it's okay, calm down, the words won't hurt you.
@@Fleato you = three letter word for donkey
Nah, that second women put her child in danger in two ways.
Firstly she was riding a scooter with her child strapped to her chest. That’s a no, that’s dangerous. Also neither the child or the parent were wearing any safety equipment.
Secondly she assaulted an elderly employee for telling the woman to not ride the scooter where it’s not permitted, while the woman had her child strapped to her.
As a parent myself I have little sympathy for a parent that puts their child in danger like that. That child is clearly not in safe hands.
With that said of course the cop should have handled the situation better, he didn’t no much to deescalate the situation.
Ultimately what you’re saying doesn’t matter because the state violence is more damaging to the child and they are already only in that position due to systemic violence they are literally homeless. They need housing and healthcare and employment it’s sick to blame the woman. Americans really need to work on their insanely reactionary views toward “criminal” justice
@@CamaradaCJyou don’t know that for a fact. Bad mothers have gotten their children killed through negligence
Why are people bringing up the scooter as if that had anything to do with her arrest
@@CamaradaCJ I’m not American. I’m Swedish.
nah idc the woman in the second one literally assaulted someone, was aggressive and rude to the first officer even when he was asking basic questions at the start, ADMITTED TO THE ALLEDGED CRIME, of course she's going to be detained?? she literally admitted to assault why would they not arrest her. Like there's a difference between having a "bad day" and assaulting an elderly security officer. You can't just ignore what she did bc she has a baby and might be stressed like. It's crazy bc i've never found myself siding with officers before but she's very clearly in the wrong.
I'm sorry, but this is so brainwashed. You're asking "why would they not arrest her", but why WOULD they arrest her? Just give her a court summons like a normal police officer would do. Of course, "normal police officer" is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say when talking about the US.
Second lady is clearly ChchcHamas. She was using the baby as a human shield/airbag for her high speed scooter
Sounds genius. Like when I plan my bank heist, everyone will have a baby on the chest. Cops can't shoot or detain you with their normal tactics. It's full proof.
Second story the most wild thing is being on a motorized scooter with a baby and no head protection, that’s wild.
They treated the hermes sandals blonde lady with more emoathy and concern they gave her time to go on a news network 🙄 wtf. They interviewed every single person. They saw videos of the alternation where karen was clearly seen attacking her, and they spoke to district management, which also corroborated what everyone was saying. They had independent witnesses, and they still needed time to review footage. there was a woman with visible injuries that said she was assaulted, and they didn't instantly arrest her. This is just as much a class problem as it is a racial issue. I've seen people get arrested immediately with way less evidence against them.
The cops arrive and get told that a woman was being racist and derogatory towards people who can prove that they are allowed to be in that area. And then the cops are like.. "Well Im sure there was some catfighting but what do you want me to do about it?"
LIKE WHAT
How would the security guard know shes homeless? Wanting consequences to actions is different than wanting the police to brutalize her. The elderly woman did nothing but her job, and people are acting as if she started this lol
wait wait 1:10:21
so because she’s 80 and “couldn’t do much damage” the disabled man that she kicked in public whilst he’s living his life with his service dog, shouldn’t get to feel any form of justice or compassion?
because SHE is also old? lol i’m so confused hahha
i’m not saying she needs to go to prison and serve time hahaha
but claiming that because she’s 80 she deserves nothing, is stupid.
she’s clearly not used to consequences- she shouldn’t go to prison.
but she needs to be accountable lol i’m so confused?
she’s clearly very chirpy and on the ball, she’s not some old incapacitated person who’s incapable. like????
Hasan low key has that old school bias of "women are less harmful than men" and it shows all the time. I don't want to harp on it and look like an MRA or anything but it's easy to see. He absolutely treats violence towards women and men as different categories.
I'm astounded at the reaction to the second lady, frankly. She was riding around on a scooter WITH A FREAKING BABY STRAPPED TO HER CHEST! Just because you are in a bad situation does NOT mean you may endanger the life of a child. If she fell and landed on that baby, it's game over for him. I agree the cop could/should have handled it better but that is absolutely some of the most reckless shit I've ever seen.
Preach l
Ppl would not believe how many things could go horribly wrong, seeing the baby with no head protection at all very frightening
That's not what she was arrested for, though, and the cop never mentioned it once.
I dont feel like the second woman should be sent to prison. I DO THINK she should loose custody of that child. Whether or not you agree with the foster system of the united states, leaving a child with an abusive parent isn't "Harm Reduction" its just ignoring a problem.
I know a lot of people are going to say "Oh how do you know she's actually abusive, she just wanted to get to work and was having a hard time" but that is doing a lot of overlooking of the things that led up to these circumstances. This woman RODE A SCOOTER with her baby strapped to her chest and then initiated a fist fight with a security guard. Even just riding around with her baby like that was pretty wild recklessness, the fact that shed basically use her as a human shield means that she simply cant be trusted with the care of a kid. She for sure should have walked to this station, especially since apparently its already not allowed for her to be on it in the first place.
You can talk about how how crappy the foster care system is all you want, I've definitely heard my fair share of horror stories, but speaking as a person who has suffered from parental abuse in the past myself there are just as many stories from people who have dealt with shitty parents too. There isn't any system that's "Better" than the other, but resigning a child to live under an abusive or neglectful circumstance just because you feel emotional towards keeping child with parent is only choosing to enable further harm since you cant come up with any better solution at the time. The point of effective child services is in order to keep young people from being damaged physically or mentally in the vital stages of their development, if a parent cant provide for or treat their child with proper care then they shouldnt be allowed to continue raising that child. There are ways that a parent who has reached a more stable living situation can reapply for custody of their child, so it isnt even as if this is a 'fuck up once and you're done forever' situation. I think that a lot of people who grew up in decent households have this misunderstanding that the simple act of leaving the parents you are born to is some kind of inherently traumatizing act, but i truly promise you, sometimes there is NOTHING MORE TRAUMATIZING then leaving a child with their birth parent.
Also Baby is so chill because that probably happens a lot, and her mom is always screaming and fighting with police in some form.
Karen number 3; don't let the smooth taste fool you. 80 year olds are strong and feisty as hell. I was a nurse in nursing homes for 7 years watching the elderly beat the crap out of 20 and 30 year olds.
It is absolutely insane to get arrested for minor ass cases of assault like obviously context matters but a single kick to the ass from an elderly woman should not warrant arrest
also I think it will not resolve the issue the woman had. it was a) anger out of control and b) uneducated & entitled when it comes to service animals. those two could be addressed in a different manner than an arrest.
if the man or dog were hurt that they needed medical attention, then I think it would be different.
I agree with Hasan that the old woman shouldn’t be handcuffed or anything, but just because someone is old doesn’t mean they should have carte blanche to assault or harass someone even if it’s physically harmless. They should’ve given her a fine.
Can’t disagree more with Hasan about the Second Lady, as someone who’s been adopted and been in homes and in and out of the system, and someone who’s now a father, I’d much rather see that child happy somewhere else if possible bc, there’s no world in which you care about your child and their wellbeing and you assault someone, putting you and them in danger, had the security guard did anything back it would’ve been to the baby, or if she got hurt, or anything literally at all. You don’t take risks like that as a good parent, you don’t put your children through that, you don’t let them see you being belligerent, even when you’re being wrong by someone in power, in my opinion, personal experiences and shared anecdotes that’s all that I can offer, that’s not how a mother who cares acts. Point blank period
Another thing I think he’s not grasping is the period of change, when a parent is inherently not a good parent and tries to become a good parent there’s always a period of change that’s happens right in front of the child’s eyes, when it happens and how long, is a case by case basis, but ultimately, in many cases that period of change can be far too long and the damage to the kids perspective on life in general will be irreversible. I completely understand the want to better the mother and see them both happy but in a lot of cases that’s where the worst situations form.
Honestly after the old lady video, Hasan has too much compassion for people sometimes, 80 means what you make it mean that’s all I have to say on that matter and 1:17:20 yea bc you’re not a 71 yo so obviously an 80 yo kicking doesn’t mean shit
I am pretty sure if this was in Canada, that altercation she loses her child, at least until she has a home again. She is clearly escalating the situation by trying to run away, without questioning after assaulting someone, all with a baby on her chest. Regardless of the outcome of being guilty or not guilty.
Honestly im floored at the amount of people who are just ok with a homeless baby?
So as someone who was in the foster care system… you want another kid in that system? I’ve genuinely never heard someone from inside the system say that before.
were you adopted out of the foster care system? because that is 1) very rare and 2) most kids with foster care background would disagree with you.
For the 2nd video with the lady and the baby… I do understand that the point of cops should never escalate a situation like that, especially when an infant is around. And I DO feel bad for the lady because she clearly has other issues going on, BUT I feel like she expected to be let off easily because she was visibly a mother. I can’t imagine that child would have a good upbringing with a mother who would act that irrationally while actively holding a baby on her FRONT SIDE. It shows she has a clear inability to understand that her actions have consequences, which is not a good mindset to have when you’re raising a baby. I feel like there’s no good option for the kid. They’re either gonna be raised by a mother who decides to assault an elderly lady because she’s having a bad day or whatever, or put into the system. None of those options seem good to me.
On the second one i have mixed feelings about how much of an immediate danger she was. Its hard to judge exactly how much risk she was to her child without a clear view of what she did.
Chat assumes severe. Hassan assumes minor. However those are both assumptipns.
Chat (for any commentary streamer on the left) is always needlesly contrarian, members of it will always adopt the extreme opposite to the streamer even when they dont believe it, it happens for a few dumb reasons but the nuanced conversation it creates tends to be more interesting i think the conversation hassan was forced to have because of the differences in how he and others they think about criminal justice is far more valuble then any one person stating their "perfect" oppinion.
Not really, the gentleman giving hi\s eyewitness testimony to the cop specified it was not a hard hit/push on the shoulder
The cops themselves specified that even touching someone without permission is battery in florida
Riding around on a scooter, an electric scooter at that, with a baby strapped to your chest is dangerous as fuck. What if you run over a little dip and fall, that baby is going down with you, and its head could hit the pavement first. And then on top of that, you punch the security guard that’s an old Black lady who’s actually being more cautious about your baby than you?!! Yeah, gtfoh. She got no sympathy from me. That’s peak white entitlement right there.
I'd say severe, not because of the fight, but because she was speeding around on her scooter and neither her nor the baby have a helmet. That's bananas.
@@naonao9528bro she’s homeless
There is no repercussions on this hasan there is a baby involved in this SHE IS A DANGER TO THE BABY FIRST AND EVERYONE SECOND. Brother i love ya but this is outrageous that your defending this woman thats RIDING A SCOOTER AND PUNCHING PEOPLE WITH A INFANT ATTACHED TO THEM.
Seriously. Dudes lost in the sauce
White women have no fear.😰
The mother WAS riding a scooter WITH a child. Doesn't that itself pit the child in danger?
Yes definitely! Just imagine what would happen if it suddenly stopped och she crashed, she'd fly face and baby first right into the ground.
(Here in Sweden you'd get fined if two (fully grown) people ride a scooter together.)
The message from that public defender was potent.
that was LolOverruled btw. we love him
@@solala1312b nice, thanks for citing the reference. It was a great perspective.
The lady @24:00 thinks a baby on her chest is a super mario invulnerability star, walking around punching people and taunting roided up cops
It worked for Hasan
"body the grandma" 💀😭😭
blair is just out here WASPing it up
Hasan having sympathy for the crazy Karen using her baby shield is wild.
Yeah the homeless mother deserves no empathy. Homeless people get to much empathy.
@@modrin1586 she’s a bigot who thought she could get away with attacking a black elderly lady. Idgaf if she’s homeless or not. There’s wealthy bigots too
the 80 year old who kicked the other 80 year old should have faced consequences, that's a valid arrest. Sure, she's ancient and frail, but she assaulted someone on an equal footing to her. That's genuine violence.
Exactly! It’s dumb to think that age keeps you away from consequences.
Found the American
And why does that warrant an arrest? A court summons, sure, but why an arrest?
@@cupriferouscatalyst3708 The person she assaulted is RIGHT THERE STILL. If she didn't have any kind of pressure to stop that immediately, she could go back and continue if the wrong dementia riddled synapses fired while she was fuming back to her car.
@@curvingfyre6810 and did she look like she was going to? I'm genuinely asking because I'm not a cop and so I haven't been trained to make such a call, but I do know dementia, and if you think that the risk of a sudden dementia onset is a valid reason to remove a person's right to freedom, then every single person on this planet should be locked up for life.
I disagree with the "old people being basically treated as disabled as a standard" take.
I'm just 25 but I AM paraplegic, and if a 80 year old grandma would push me off my wheelchair for example, I would get so mad from the disrespect that I wouldn't care for her being treated as a middle age person. Even a kid is a little more understandable because of not having world experience, but 80 YEARS OLD AND ACTING LIKE THAT? Come on!
Of course I'd like cops not being violent pigs and I don't even like them in the first place, but ¿how do you ensure people not attacking us disabled folks if at the same time you then go and say they're free to operate as they please?
nobody was advocating for the person with the service dog to be hurt or to not press charges. the question was whether the arrest of the old woman will help the disabled person or the community overall.
I think where Hasan looses ppl is that he mixes all his points together instead of clearly stating his topic then giving his opinion. Hasan bringing up blk ppls interactions with opps was insensitive bc the situations are not the same, I understand why he was using the comparison with the baby lady. But, they are interchangeable bc for blk ppl prison or getting arrested aren’t the worst possible outcome for us. Hasan wants to explain that the punishment doesn’t warrant the outcome and that is a great point. Hasan wants to convey that the US needs prison reform and better policing policies and practices another great point. But, while trying to make that point he doesn’t clearly separate or add equal explanations to all his points. But what he is missing from talking about blk ppl is that the baby lady CAN argue(which is a privilege) and Hasan just stating “it would be 100x worse for blk ppl” is distasteful and random and doesn’t fit the context for the conversation or situation.
@28:40: That baby has seen some sh*t! Hardened by trauma doesn't equal "chill."
Honestly, that's exactly what I saw - it seemed like the baby was already conditioned to accept that their mother acting crazy was just a normal thing? I still can't get past the fact that she's such a fucking idiot that she's riding a scooter with the kid strapped to her chest! Massively dangerous and irresponsible!
Damn, as a black person, I agreed pretty strongly with Hasan about how incarceration does more harm than good, and that putting that woman in her place and/or taking her child away isn't gonna solve any problems. It's kinda weird for people to take it in the direction they took it, especially when he clearly demonstrated an understanding of how much worse this could've gone for a homeless black woman?? Like what's the problem here besides the fact that there are way too many Americans that are vengeful and vindictive and don't actually want incarceration to be truly rehabilitative. Harsh punishment and taking away children isn't the answer. Rehabilitation and programs that exist to help people in these kinds of situations is the answer.
And I feel like the black voices in chat were being overrun by the one wrong person. The older lady being black got nothing to do with the situation. And now this great pov of incarceration became a race debate. Was searching hard for other black watchers and chatters.
I feel like he's a bit too lenient on grannies throwing punches. Like yeah, they prob won't cause much damage to you, but another 70 or 80 year old don't have the same resilient body as someone who's 30.
Not saying they should be detained and arrested. But a grannie kicking a 70 year old guy feels like it can be bad, like they have roughly the same power level(also how someone handles being assaulted differs, some brush it off, some don't as easily).
29:50 Cop on the left deescalated the situation so fast that even if she felt triggered by the other cop screaming, she was willing to now let the cop do its job. Why even scream, take her arm or try fighting back in the first place? You're the person in power, act like a professional and mature individual and don't escalate the situation, especially in front of a child.
That woman could've easily lost her child for some stupid dispute because the cop couldn't just calmly explain the situation to her.
The cop also being as coy as possible about what was about to happen frustated me too. I know they have to do that to a degree in interrogations but them doing it constantly and misleading people seems ridiculous and only can make these situations worse. Why not just say "yes we're arresting you" it's not like they got anything out of her.
Honestly, I agree with the arrest of that 80 year old. People can be violent and elderly. I get that she should have just gotten a talking to. Being 80 doesn’t mean you aren’t strong and capable to doing harm. I had a friend whose grandmother in her late 70s attacked her and scratch her face, drew blood from her arm by squeezing it so hard it broke skin. Assault is assault. I just don’t believe if you are above a certain age, you should be exempt from consequences.
I have a feeling that the first lady's daughters not wanting to go to the pool anymore has less to do with "pool hoppers" and more to do with how their mother reacts to people she perceives as "pool hoppers." I wouldn't have wanted to go to a pool anymore either if I had to watch my mom yell at random people every time I went.
I wouldn’t want to go to the pool with my mom if her entire ass was showing either.
I dont understand why Hasan is so against people seeing repercussions for assaulting someone??????
he spent like half an hour reiterating that she should get repercussions. the entire point is that the ones facing her would ruin her and her baby’s life even further.
clearly the security guard was okay, it legit would have been better for the cops just make them talk for a while. they literally say any unwanted touch is assault, and while i agree with a broad definition legally, “assault” paints a much worse picture than grabbing wrists and a weak punch
@@LiarJudas666 a conversation isnt a repercussion. The level of assault is irrelevant, don't touch someone if you're not willing to deal with serious repercussions.
@@syncrusade1584 sure it is. it’d be embarrassing and uncomfortable but much more productive
@@LiarJudas666 lol if you seriously think a conversation is a repercussion for putting your hands on someone you've lived an incredibly privileged life. An appropriate repercussion would be a fine or community service. A conversation is for children not grown ass adults who know better.
@@syncrusade1584 you think all adults know better? i’m a sleight man who wears glasses and i’ve been struck a few times. i made those guys look like total assholes to be clear, i was in the right. i’m not saying skinny glasses wearers should never be hit, but it wasn’t justified. the notion of calling the cops never once crossed my mind.
i have had a privileged life but like, you reckon someone’s life should be ruined for a minor impact? is that not more entitled?
The woman in the first clip hit it right on the head, my first thought was the white lady was upset and jealous that there were a bunch of beautiful Spaniards walking around and her man was probably around so she got angry. It was definitely giving jealousy, especially her commenting on the chicks Hermes sandals.
the in fe ri or ar ya n ra ce doing what they do best, what else is new?
She's not a Karen, she's a hate criminal! LMAO
ask yourself why did you have more empathy for the white woman assaulting a elderly black woman, and barely care to acknowledge that black woman being assaulted?
When we actually break it down, at the end of the day you see that white woman as innocent and "having a bad day" you never once said that elderly black woman being attacked had a bad day, cause you see the white woman as a victim.
That poor kid is being terrorized. He's not chill. Very traumatic for children to see a parent in distress.
42:00 Big Hasan L on this one - speeding around recklessly on a scooter with a baby strapped to you and assaulting a security guard isn't just "a bad day" what a wild take. Why does she have to "grievously harm" someone to be considered a danger? I'm extremely anti-cop but they actually seem reasonable in so many situations here where Hasan just criticizes them for the sake of it.
Chill ass baby dog
Clearly the mother with her baby was having some kind of episode. Some kind of emotional compassion could have been helpful, but like the officer said- the baby was in harms danger with her. That isn’t acceptable
No one said its acceptable, lol. But seperating mother and child, potentially forever, over "some kind of episode" is also not acceptable. Its bizzare to me how many people seeing this can't comprehend two things being true.
Yes what that lady did was wrong, but wrong does not mean she should automatically be sent to jail and have her child taken away from her.
@@wdsyalyndo you think there should be punishment for putting hands on someone? Is the victim not entitled to feel protected? While I do empathize with the baby lady, I think the most basic human law we should have is that you can’t strike people. She struck a person (older and smaller and weaker then herself) then refused to deal with any of the consequences. I think people are letting the “America bad” and “police bad” brain fungus rot their brains a little bit.
@@jadeorange the cop did absolutely nothing to defuse the situation. I've personally never been in a altercation that was improved by police involvement. Not saying the security guard deserved to be "battered" but why even have an 80 year old security guard when the only thing they can do is call the cops? That cop didn't give a shit about the baby, either, he was about to drop her because he didn't like her attitude.
@@noahboucher125 I don’t see where I suggested the cop did anything to deescalate the situation. I guess it’s easier to win made up arguments.
Maybe because I’m lucky, maybe it’s because I’m white but I’ve been in situations where cops did help deescalate altercations and situations where they made it worse.
I don’t see why you would bring up the security guards age, seems like weird victim blaming.
My main point is that, if I were the security lady, I wouldn’t press charges, I’d have her escorted from the premises. I agree with Hasan that people shouldn’t be arrested for every minor infraction. However, I do believe that the security guard is well within her rights to want this lady arrested.
Society is based around laws, the most basic and important to me is keep your hands off people. They teach you that in pre-school. The baby lady’s material conditions def play a role in how she was acting but the truth of it is that she broke a law, violated someone’s bodily autonomy then refused to cooperate with the law. She was then arrested.
Also that’s pure speculation about the cop being “about to drop her”. He actually appears to have taken precaution and used very little force because the baby was strapped to this lady.
I agree in the second situation is that the girl had a a shit day but if she is in one of these homes, which my grandma ran a many years, she probably has issues already other than being homeless. Most of the time they will reunite the women with their babies but work on an anger management plan or safety plans. They usually see it as if this is how she acts towards strangers when she is stressed or angry, the fear becomes how do they act if their child angers them. It is a broken broken system and I'm not justifying it but there is almost always multiple reunion options before the child goes to the state indefinitely. The reason my grandma who was a nurse did this for young women was because my mom had 5 kids in abusive situations and we lived in cars garages and camp sites before my mom admitted she needed help due to the fear of loosing us. Also she is already working with DCS so there may be some recurring problems.
The First Lady is like cartman in the pee episode of South Park
“Minorities in my water park”
Fastest clip channel in the east RAHHHHH
Busting clips like caps , faster than faps
hasan defending the woman that assaulted the old security guard because she had a baby with her is insane...
I was handcuffed in a psychiatric emergency. Not only did it hurt but left dark bruises for a week and years of trauma.
Gonna have to disagree with Hasan. That baby is clearly not safe with a woman who chooses to engage in physical violence while the baby is strapped to her chest. That baby could have died if an altercation broke out.
I disagree with Hassan and the majority of yall. A lady was willing to assualt another older woman while she had a child in front of her. It's not a minor scuffle when it seems that her behavoir is violent towards most and even with her child in arms that changes nothing and makes the situation more dangerous, because she could keep assualting people until one day her baby gets injured or worse. I think it's good she got consequences, if you believe it was too harsh so be it, but that's what it was. And just know that there ARE women in her situation that would never be caught NEAR a situation like this.
The take on that second Karen is ridiculous.
The whole service dog thing was just whack. From the tiny bit of footage that we are shown of the dog, I'd say that there actually is a good chance that the dog is a real service dog. Service dogs don't normally jump on people though... unless he was trained to alert for blood sugar, or heart conditions and was trying to alert to the lady. Anyway, that's my random theory of the day.
I always love how hasan gets mad at people for make extreme statements about him but does the same thing when others disagree with him
I like him and his content but he is a massive hypocrite when it comes to that. He expects every chatter to be charitable with him at all times but will immediately make assumptions and flip out on a chatter based on incomplete information and then just refuses to accept any clarification.
The number of times I've seen him rage at a chatter, pull up their usercard, and the chatter say "no that's not what I meant" and he just closes the usercard and moves on is ridiculous. It wouldn't kill him to say "my bad, misunderstood you" once in a while.
That being said I'm sure dealing with the number of psychos he deals with on a daily basis probably makes it hard to give a fuck about any individual chatter.
@meurigjenkins yea I gotta take breaks from his content sometimes because of that
@@meurigjenkinsyeah this happened to me on his most recent stream and the entire chat was spamming “stfu” “fuck u” “I hate liberals”. You don’t realize how frustrating that shit is until ur in that situation, but I mean he streams for 8+ hours a day and has to deal with insane ppl 24/7, so I can kinda understand why he might misinterpret ppl. It just kinda sucked to be treated like an idiot and not be able to explain myself.
Hes the biggest hypocrite. I adore him, but he really is such a hypocrite when it comes to things like that
that grandma has no right being this funny
the cold justice that was Hasan banning that weirdo in complete silence at 9:00 was everything for me
Why on Earth is a 66 year old woman working as a security guard that seems extremely dangerous with high liability. I know there's age discrimination in the workforce but some jobs probably shouldn't have elderly people in them
I'm a security guard and I can say they are useless, I work with a 70 year old lady and she can't type or write out a report, can't make the rounds, can't speak loudly so no one can hear her instructions. walks so slow it takes her a full three minutes to walk into the office(which is about 40 feet from the desk). I'm basically on shift alone, I'd say capitalism ruined the country and her retirement but she brags about how much her husband has made and says she just does this just to have something to do during the day. don't even get me started on her political beliefs she won't shut up about. I'm probably going to get shit on for hating an old lady but I seriously hate that lady.
Why are you blaming the victim of assault?
She probably has no choice but to work that job due to capitalism. That doesn't excuse the mother of swinging on her.
What an ignorant comment , that's how a lawsuit starts 😂
@@mcfatty69same here , I know a guard waiting for retirement age to stop working to collect social security.
I had a coworker this age as a night shift security. She was paranoid af and made everything way worse. She never ever once defused a situation + was racist af + she would get involved in stuff she had no business in; like asking for ID without authority or messing with ppl outside the facility...
Thankfully she retired. Godspeed Blanca, you won't be missed.
I agree with Hasan that we need a more holistic approach to justice in this country. But it's weird to me that he seems to think slurs deserve jail time over physical violence... I'm a gay man and I've had the f-slur shouted at me many times. But obviously someone putting their hands on me because I'm gay is far more severe than someone just shouting a slur at me.
I'm honestly not sure what the just approach towards physical violence is, but it's not more violence from police and the carceral system. That being said, people who decide to put their hands on another person need to know that they're wrong and change their behavior. If institutions outside of the justice system can't effectuate that, then yes, maybe other corrective action is necessary that involves detainment. I'm not exactly sure what Hasan's approach to that would be though... If he's not an abolitionist, then there needs to be concrete rules for when detainment is necessary, and it doesn't seem like he's fully thought through what those rules should be.
On the other hand, we could just abolish the carceral system and establish a community-based approach for punishment. But apparently that doesn't work for Hasan and he thinks that detainment is necessary in some cases, so again, I'm not exactly sure what his solution would be. Either you have rules for when people should be incarcerated, or you abolish the prison system and ameliorate violent social deviancy on a context-dependent, communal basis. There isn't really a ton of in-between there, so I'm not exactly clear on what his stance is. Maybe he has clarified in other videos or will clarify in future videos.
The problem is you eventually have to be violent to people to maintain any kind of justice system. You just do. I've talked with a few anarchists and I ask "ok what if someone flagrantly denies that their crime happened and refuses to cooperate with the system entirely" their answer is banishment which is one of the most violent things I can imagine. Eventually you have to take someone and force stuff on them, using an objective agreed upon system to determine what happened, which is called court lol.
The service dog takes were way off base. That woman definitely deserves to be charged for assault. It was literally assault. Service dog handlers don’t deserve to face harassment and assault for trying to live our lives. She doesn’t deserve to go to prison or anything, but she absolutely should be arrested and charged for harassment or assault. She should be forced to “pay” for that crime, whether by paying fines or by doing community service.