I recently stopped listening to corporate controled media. Decided to find podcasts that spoke to my mind. I have come across your podcast and this is what I'm talking about the knowledge, wisdom and understanding All of your guests are astounding. From a child I've always felt things spiritually and discerned but didn't have any guidance. At 77 it is not so much for me but I can pass it on to my grandchildren and the adult children that are wise enough to listen. Thank you so much!
77, huh? You are blessed to be surrounded by people who actually care about you. I'm sure that you already know that. Nobody really cared to get to know me, so I just put my ego out there to be dealt with. Now I have regrets and a list of folks who probably want me dead. Oh well. I guess I'm just gonna have to come to terms at some point. Experience is altogether compounding, leading up to something incomprehensible and probably horrific. You know. All these sick games we play with life, never realizing that life is a gift. We use it to our own advantage, only to find out we didn't have that much control as we thought we did. Nice meeting you.👍
I did the same after my last time in Iraq, 2008, tuning out of most ofAmerican sensational media. I could really tune out after I was forced to retire due to serious medical issues that caused disabilities, but luckily I already had 24+ years.
@@GregoryMandarait’s never too late to get things back on the right track ❤ a bit of soul honesty and some apologies go a long way, people are ready to forgive when it comes from the heart! Please don’t give up! And the universe comes to assist those who are brave enough to be vulnerable and open up to love. What horrible consequences are you facing? Hope everything is okay
LizRoland, the noted Tibetan Buddhist, Chogyam Trungpa taught to never give up on anyone. Anyone includes yourself. As I recall, Jesus taught the same thing. None of us are separate from the creation/Creator. Our ego may give up but our spirit never will.
I grew up in the desert of what's now North Scottsdale, AZ. Our house was the only one for miles around, so there no chance to socialize outside of school. Indoor entertainment was limited. Thus I spent most of my time outside, exploring. I was fascinated by the large ants that had colonies with entrances 3 feet in diameter. A colony was either red entirely or black entirely. They had wars, huge wars. I studied the aftermath of an epic battle. Dead bodies of both colors were all around a 15 foot area. Some ants were still engaged in fighting. But most ants were busy picking up the dead of their respective colonies. I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I locked my gaze onto one ant that had a dead ant of the same color in its jaws. I watched where it was going. I saw it enter a hole under a large rock. I picked up the edge of the rock and was shocked to find that the dead ants of one color were all brought to this location. Meaning the ants were burying their dead!! Can you think of the implications of this?? It meant ants had feelings, that they had a need to gather their dead colony members together. Did it mean that ants had a religious belief? They clearly had a behavior, a ritual. I went looking for a graveyard for the other color ants, and found one. I ran home and told my mom. I wish she'd contacted the university so that I would have received credit for the discovery at age 9. I believe it was a British scientist who later discovered the same truth about ants and got credit for it. That's beside the point, however . The point is that ants have consciousness as shown by the gathering and burying of their dead. And if ants do that, what do other creatures do and believe? I think it's ridiculous to think animals don't have emotions and feelings. You can see it on their faces! Or you can observe their actions.
Beautifully put, yes!!! All is conscious, Crystal's, the invisible, even thoughts got their own life. Do an egregore 'decide' to be attracted to a mindset or is it pulled, or little of both..you know what I mean. Everything, AI included, has a piece of this knowledge, this intelligence that permeates All that is.
Just because ants bury their dead, it doesn’t necessarily imply emotion. Even humans may not have started burying our dead because of some emergent spiritual paradigm. It could be as primitive as wanting to prevent scavenging predators from threatening the survival and integrity of the colony. In time these natural evolutionary processes could begin to take shape and be expressed as stories with religious implications. With that said there’s nothing wrong with believing ants have some sort of empathy for its colony. But we can’t assume that them disposing of their dead in this manner is a type of ritualistic funeral based on emotion and/or spiritual conviction. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that they have some kind of “culture”. But I think it’s important not to anthropomorphize creatures to the degree that we’re making assumptions about their behavior based on our own.
@@JordAnarchy There are too few sensible comments here. Your's is, at least, one of them. Too much WOO WOO coming from too many people. They sound like Chopra, et al.
Like, whoa, I think that, like, the ants of both colonies should have been practicing mindfulness and would have, thus, been totally chill and might well have hung out together, like, and had beers and weed together. But like, both colonies were, like, all racist and angry and stuff, and they were, like, full of bad energy. So, they, like, totally went to war against each other. Like, totally tragic, man.
@@JordAnarchyI agree. While the original observation may have been moving, I think that humans have a knack for anthropomorphizing beliefs unto others. My first logical reason for why the ants would have been doing this is the smell that a dead ant may release after being dead, and the live ants collecting this smell and putting it all in one place, so as to simplify the chaos. Say another war started, and the scent was released again. This way, there would be far less confusion if the ants had to detect where this was happening again. I don't even know if this is the reason why, but I'm trying to think outside the box of imposing human behavior onto an ant to provide an alternate explanation for something beautifully organized-looking.
I’m amazed that Hidden Astral Projection Techniques on Shirlest isn't a bigger topic among astral projectors. The clarity and detail I found there really changed my practice for the better.
André hit it right on: The more we entrain our senses to become more caring and sensitive about literally everything in our environment, especially nature, the more grateful and appreciative we are to all things. Everything's connected;
That is the basic lesson of nature philosphy. In the so called "modern civilisation" many people has lost the connection to nature and so they are imbalenced and tend to a violent competitive lifestyle and cause damage
@@askhollyhallas the stewards of this planet, humans should embrace and sustain the garden. Surely, the way humans treat nature will be reflective on how those humans will treat/value strangers, neighbors and humankind.
As a 40 year nurse , working with patients that are locked in is very difficult. And I can’t even tell you exactly how I know… But I do know they’re in there. There’s something in their eyes that is very different from someone who is unconscious with eyes open. This is a great type of case to look at the idea of consciousness.
Plants are conscious. And we communicate with them. You lick the seed and plant it, it creates more of the vitamins that you are lacking. There is an incredible intelligence that supports all life.
Plants have a certain degree of sentience. They respond to their environment in a more complex way than a rock. BUT, plants are not conscious. There is Zero evidence that plants are aware that they are aware. Only consciousness is conscious that it is conscious.
If this is true you should submit a peer reviewed paper and collect your Nobel prize. Jokes aside, this would be extremely profound if this were true, yet the inner skeptic in me tells me it’s not. Not saying it’s true or untrue, that’s just my intuition.
Growing up my Dad would enquire, 'What you doing'. I would respond at times 'Nothing' he would intuit, you can't be doing nothing we're always doing something'. Made me think deeper as I grew. Thank you Dad for all your wisdom so far. Loved all of this. Again truly grateful. 😀 💜
I believe that consciousness for itself, it can't experience 'nothingness'. As an example, take sleep without dreams or the experience of being under general anaesthetic. In these situations, we do not and can not experience the nothingness of that moment. We are gone, and we then instantaneously wake up again without having gone through the experience of nothingness. I go as far as to say; well, if this is true in these scenarios, then death is an illusion because, like sleep without dreams, we can't experience 'nothingness'. When someone else is born, which could be any form of life, consciousness for itself manages to continue. You feel like "you" as a person now. So, if you were born again in this way, "you" will feel like a "you" person again. Consciousness is this felt sense of being specifically a "you" person or being, regardless of who that experience is being felt by. So, you will continue to feel a sense of being a "you" regardless if that is in this life or the next, or any previous life. In short "You" will ALWAYS have a felt sense of being "you". Therefore, death is an illusion. Death is just a "gap" in our awareness, like sleep without dreams, being under general anaesthetic, or being unconscious. This "gap" between death and birth follows the same path of consciousness, or this felt sense of being you. Death isn't something to be scared of, at least with this insight into doing nothing...
@@chrisjarmainLife by definition can’t disappear and turn into death. Death being nothingness does not exist, while life does exist and hence can’t stop existing
@@chrisjarmain or perhaps to have memory of an experience there might need to be a object of experience to access the memory, in deep sleep and anesthetic or death there is no experience, so we can't recall. Doesn't mean there wasn't the experience of nothing we just can't remember. Often we can't recall dreams untill later in the day so you would wake up and conclude I had no dreams. No experience of a dream, then later oh yes I did in remember.
If you are someone who's here right now, then you are also on a higher level of consciousness as well! Give yourself a really big pat on the back & tell yourself congratulations! 🙏🏾😌 Because you really are doing a great job in life right now & you can finally relax! From this moment forward It's ok to be very gentle & easy with yourself. Because everything in existence, & anyone breathing the air of life is only here to help you succeed! Peace, freedom, love, joy, relaxation, & financial abundance are here for us from now until our ticking clock expires! And with all due respect, if you feel like screaming out loud from time to time, please do so! Because it only helps us in releasing old emotions, & it also helps us to achieve the awareness & alignment that we've been searching for from the start! I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, & I love you for helping me! Because you are me, & I am you. Thank you for your compassionate expressions! Namesté. 🙏🏾😌☮️🧘🏾♂️💚🌌
You are on the right track and a good writer, beautiful words but be aware of your advice on self congratulations. Matthew 6:24: “You cannot serve God and Mammon.” Jesus warns against idolizing ourselves or our accomplishments, and instead encourages us to prioritize our relationship with God. Self-congratulation and seeking praise from others can be a barrier to true spiritual growth.
It makes me curious to see what their kids might bring to the world when they grow up. Granted that they take up an interest in this kind of thing. If not, I hope they do great things with whatever they pursue.
Scientist should be asking people that already found many answers like the Himalayan, Buddhist monks say that when a tree falls in the forest, the fact that all the trees around reach out their branches to fill in that space comes from compassion. So the fact that scientists haven’t discovered a lot of things it’s not because it doesn’t exist, because they haven’t raise their levels of conscious awareness of their own surroundings, much less the rest of the world.
Science is about data and analyzation. Consciousness beyond the sense perceptions and formations cannot be conceptualized. It's why science and spirituality are bridging now into Contemplative Sciences.
Yeah good idea- let’s ask a bunch of uneducated hill people for their lofty wisdom so we can regress several millennia and become enlightened beings. Namaste
The modern science has willingly ignored old knowledge and wisdom, so they can refind it with their research to then claim, that they have discovered it and get the admiration for it.
I’ve always felt plants have consciousness. I don’t think we’ve fully understood what consciousness is, it permeates through all of life & just manifests differently in each.
Trees communicate with each other through a fungal network... They share nutrients and send more to their own offspring... They are conscious and they do bleed 😢 when we cut them ...
YES!! Annaka Harris! Dude. You are pulling down some amazing guests! Teal, Gabi, Hoffman, Annaka Harris, Dr. Ramani, Kelly Brogan... Literally six of my top ten inspirations. The quality of this channel is amazing.
@@trakkaton I certainly can, as well as other interviews such as Lex Fridman. Her, Hoffman, and Joscha Bach pretty much define my current model of Cosmos Theory. Alas, I get the feeling that you are being advarsarial, and I gave up trying to convince people on TH-cam comments years ago. I won't be listing my arguments. If you didn't enjoy the interview, then I am sure you will find value in some other vids laying around. It's a big world. Peace.
@@Ben_D. You know, I've become used to expecting nothing but these meaningless nothingburger "answers" such as yours. But a couple of days ago somebody actually managed to answer a question of mine (proof of an experiment that shows that jumping out of a ballon during ascend can collapse it), without evasion, fallacies, and in a detailed and factual, concrete fashion, and without just ignoring the question and loving to hear himself talk. So there's hope.
Of course we arent. It wouldnt even make sense from a science perspective. We know that atoms vibrate/ are in motion. Being a body would mean that one would have to account for every single atom in every single state and say: thats me. That doesent make sense. Everything changes in every moment and the mind still keeps saying: thats me. Its impossible by any measurment to claim that oneself is the body.
@@JsmithyyI think the question “who are we?” is the wrong question. “WHAT are we” is a much more meaningful question to ask. I would say what we are is conscious awareness, and that’s the only thing we can be absolutely certain of.
The main problem with consciousness is that many people stick with the mindset, which they have been conditioned in the childhood and never questioning it. Prejudices, biases and box thinking are the walls incarcerating the human mind, getting rid of them will set the human mind free and expand the consciousness.
I can’t wait for the series! Annaka is such an important voice on the topic of consciousness. She appears to value explaining things clearly above almost everything and is quite skilled at communicating subtle issues, but she lacks the pretensions that often accompany communicators on this topic. Wonderful!
Tying all these disciplines with an economy of words is such a rare talent, because so many people become hyper-focused on one subject such that they miss the insights that become apparent when someone becomes a polymath and becomes increasingly aware of the interconnectedness of things.
She defines 10:14 life as if that’s life rather than her limited experience of life. A retail worker has equal knowledge. Best we respect ourselves and honor our own book of life.
I have always felt at home in nature. I talk to the trees and they answer. I hug them and my energy harmonizes with them. I have consciously been on a journey for 7 years now, and have been pulled to the desert and the sun. It is difficult for me to be inside, and when I am, I have to be in a small room, by myself, or with my fur babies. It’s a beautiful space for me. 🙏🏽
I believe the reason why we feel at home in nature is because we actually are. Most people in modern societies look at themselves as seperate from nature, when in reality, we are part of it. Not born into the world, but born out of the world.
Grand discussion. Much appreciated🙏 The jacaranda tree is originally from South America and blossoms in its’ spring which is September, and here in Spain they blossom twice… they’ve adapted to our spring and blossom in May and again in September because they still hold that memory 💜
Ol’ boy was smitten by the beauty and mind in front of him. Can’t sing Annaka’s praises enough. Super underrated mind who radiates: “It’s all going to be ok”. Love hearing her perspective.
@@ianmckenzie2680They are so hot for each other and weirdly that only seems to empower the discussion even further. Every time she giggled at his line of reasoning like a teenage girl, she would immediately follow up with a calm and well thought out explanation of her point of view and the basis for it. Amazing.
2:05:57 consciousness is a fundamental aspect of reality and that each quantum perspective emits an emotional tone. This emotional tone can be managed by consciousness on a moment-by-moment basis. It suggests that consciousness seeks to move from reactive suffering to actively choosing love. In relation to “The Road Less Traveled,” this idea aligns with M. Scott Peck’s themes of self-awareness, personal responsibility, and the conscious choice to confront difficulties and choose love. Both perspectives emphasize the power of conscious decision-making in transforming one’s experience and fostering spiritual growth.
During a difficult time, practiced meditating with the intent of matching the energy of rocks. It helped me feel calm. One day many years later, I glanced at a rose quartz stone that was resting on my desk. Somehow I just knew that stone could see all the happenings in the universe. I hope some day to be as smart as a rock.
What a charming, charismatic, delightful and plain-lovely lady! I just love her and it’s an absolute pleasure listening in on this discussion! Thank you!
@ 15:30 This explains why PTSD is so hard to beat. We need to be targeting locked in body memories as well as emotions, subconscious and conscious reactions etc.
I am a physicist and I explain why current physics leaves not room for the possibility that brain processes can be a sufficient condition for the existence of consciousness. The hypothesis that consciousness emerges from, or can be identified with physical, chemical or biological processes is incompatible with current physics. It is a scientifically established fact that a mental experience is associated with numerous distinct microscopic physical processes that occur at different points; there is no physical entity that connects all these distinct microscopic processes, therefore the existence of mental experience requires an element of connection that is not described by current physics. This missing element of connection can be identified with what we traditionally refer to as the soul (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations). Emergent properties are often thought of as arising from complex systems (like the brain). However, I argue that these properties are subjective cognitive constructs that depend on the level of abstraction we choose to analyze and describe the system. Since these descriptions are mind-dependent, consciousness, being implied by these cognitive contructs, cannot itself be an emergent property. Preliminary considerations: the concept of set refers to something that has an intrinsically conceptual and subjective nature and implies the arbitrary choice of determining which elements are to be included in the set; what can exist objectively are only the individual elements. Defining a set is like drawing an imaginary line to separate some elements from others. This line doesn't exist physically; it’s a mental construct. The same applies to sequences of processes-they are abstract concepts created by our minds. Mental experiences are necessary for the existence of subjectivity/arbitrariness and cognitive constructs; Therefore, mental experience itself cannot be just a cognitive construct. Obviously we can conceive the concept of consciousness, but the concept of consciousness is not actual consciousness; We can talk about consciousness or about pain, but merely talking about it isn’t the same as experiencing it. (With the word consciousness I do not refer to self-awareness, but to the property of being conscious= having a mental experiences such as sensations, emotions, thoughts, memories and even dreams) From the above considerations it follows that only indivisible elements may exist objectively and independently of consciousness, and consequently the only logically coherent and significant statement is that consciousness exists as a property of an indivisible element. Furthermore, this indivisible entity must interact globally with brain processes because there is a well-known correlation between brain processes and consciousness. However, this indivisible entity cannot be physical, since according to the laws of physics, there is no physical entity with such properties. The soul is the missing element that interprets globally the distinct elementary physical processes occurring at separate points in the brain as a unified mental experience. Clarifications The brain itself doesn't exist as a completely mind-independent entity. The concept of the brain is based on separating a group of quantum particles from everything else, which is a subjective process, not dictated purely by the laws of physics. Actually there is a continuous exchange of molecules with the blood and when and how such molecules start and stop being part of the brain is decided arbitrarily. An example may clarify this point: the concept of nation. Nation is not a physical entity and does not refer to a mind-independent entity because it is just a set of arbitrarily chosen people. The same goes for the brain. Brain processes consist of many parallel sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes occurring at separate points. There is no direct connection between the separate points in the brain and such connections are just a subjective abstractions used to approximately describe sequences of many distinct physical processes. Indeed, considering consciousness as a property of an entire sequence of elementary processes implies the arbitrary definition of the entire sequence; the entire sequence as a whole (and therefore every function/property/capacity attributed to the brain) is a subjective abstraction that does not refer to any mind-independendent reality. Physicalism/naturalism is based on the belief that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. However, an emergent property is defined as a property that is possessed by a set of elements that its individual components do not possess; my arguments prove that this definition implies that emergent properties are only subjective cognitive constructs and therefore, consciousness cannot be an emergent property. Actually, emergent properties are just simplified and approximate descriptions or subjective classifications of underlying physical processes or properties, which are described directly by the fundamental laws of physics alone, without involving any emergent properties (arbitrariness/subjectivity is involved when more than one option/description is possible). An approximate description is only an abstract idea, and no actual entity exists per se corresponding to that approximate description, simply because an actual entity is exactly what it is and not an approximation of itself. What physically exists are the underlying physical processes. Emergence is nothing more than a cognitive construct that is applied to physical phenomena, and cognition itself can only come from a mind; thus emergence can never explain mental experience as, by itself, it implies mental experience. Conclusions My approach is based on scientific knowledge of the brain's physical processes. My arguments show that physicalism is incompatible with the very foundations of scientific knowledge because current scientific understanding of molecular processes excludes the possibility that brain processes alone can account for the existence of consciousness. An indivisible non-physical element must exist as a necessary condition for the existence of consciousness because mental experiences are linked to many distinct physical processes occurring at different points; it is therefore necessary for all these distinct processes to be interpreted collectively by a mind-independent element, and a mind-independent element can only be intrinsically indivisible because it cannot depend on subjectivity. This indivisible element cannot be physical because the laws of physics do not describe any physical entity with the required properties. Marco Biagini
@@Craft-oh7uv The point is that a hallucination is a conscious mental experience while endogenous and reactive mechanisms are just cognitive constructs that refer to many underlying microscopic processes. Therefore, your statement cannot explain the existence of consciousness since it implicitly presupposes the existence of consciousness.
Like Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup I think consciousness is fundamental, primal, probably eternal, and infinite yet not necessarily complex in and of itself. I think the "content of consciousness" is what is emergent, multifarious, and complex, informational, however illusory, and probably best represented by something akin to Stephen Wolfram's hypergraph of networked cellular automata nodes, threads of order woven throughout a sea of most likely binary chaos arising through the sheer inevitability of probability and the infinite.
@@canjian1783 Consciousness is a concept that refers to the property of being conscious= having a mental experience, such as sensastions, emotions, thoughts or even dreams. The fundamental property of consciousness, as we directly experience it, is subjectivity, i.e. the immediate and intuitive awareness of oneself as an indivisible unit, our "I". Consciousness is inherently subjective because a subject is an intrinsic property of experience, and subjectivity cannot be broken down into simpler elements / pieces. So, the term “consciousness” always refers to a subject who has a mental experience. For example, when we feel pain, what exists is not pain alone but “we who feel pain”; the “we” is an intrinsic part of the experience of pain. The same is true for any action: for example, there is no “walking” without a “walking subject”. The idea that an experience can exist without an experiencer is simply a nonsensical expression, exactly as the expression “spherical cube”, which is an expression formed by juxtaposing two words whose meaning is mutually exclusive, thus leading to an intrinsic logical contradiction. Language allows us to form meaningless expressions and this can create illusory definitions; these expressions may create the illusion of a meaning, while being devoid of any meaning. The idea that consciousness can be subjectless or exists as a fundamental impersonal entity, in the sense that it does not imply a unitary subjectivity that has a mental experience, is an illusory idea exactly like the idea of a spherical cube or the idea that there may be a “walking” without a “walking subject”. What distinguishes science from supertitions or philosophical speculations is that science is a combination of logic and empirical evidence, and the most fundamental and direct empirical evidence is that we are the subject of our mental experiences. The idea that the existence of distinct personal subjects is an illusion is just an irrational and unscientific assumption that contradicts the most fundamental empirical evidence, namely the fact that a person cannot feel the thoughts or sensations of others.
“You are not what you think you are.” Actually, you are exactly what you think you are. You can never be what you are not conscious of being. Nothing exists outside of consciousness.
I totally resonate and he’s, my Moon is Cancer. July is very difficult, the 5th & 6th ate anniversaries of my mother’s death and when I married a narcissist only to be she two miscarriages a year apart in July. Not my favorite month snd darker energies to bs wishes. Take filly sense I had to walk away from an entire abusive family after my mothers death as it revealed who they are because of trust matters. My 1st cousin, the attorney. 11 mos younger then me deceived all of us, yet I’m the villain because I stood up for my rights. I had a two year dark night of the soul, and am healing. Thank you so much!!!❤️🥰💕
I think we, Cancerians are going through some shit right now! July is like the midway "hump month" for the year, for lack of a better word. I feel like I'm always transitioning for all the people in my life. We are the outlet of growth...it's a lot of accountability! 😮❤ My birthday is also this month! ❤
Love this conversation! All life matters no matter where it is in the evolution or ascension process. If we can shed light on suffering I think it would truly help us evolve and ascend...and when you are aware that you have a choice to shed light it really matters...
It involves discipline to experience the true nature of consciousness. By virtue of such discipline, one can easily do it. There are scriptures and authority that can help understand the discipline involved. I appreciate you so much. I am a Hindu monk living the renounced order of life for more than 40 years.
Great conversation! I started to go on walks daily, in nature, and focusing on the beauty of the plants and birds and feel a total shift in the experience. Birds are now flying in front of me (never happened before).
I sense that these two should have a frequent online conversation. Their wealth of knowledge, questions, insights, etc is spot on. Please do more of this...and thank you!❤
i don’t remember if i read something from seth speaks and came to this conclusion but since atoms cannot be created and destroyed, since the dawn of time the universe has been comprised of the same atoms, think of the billions of years seemingly before us, (truly there is an empty void which gives our perception so many different forms and patterns) , these atoms have always been here, in a rock a million years ago, now in me, everything is alive. everything must be loved and respected bc we know that particles change when they’re observed, when charged with positivity. i could go on and on making no sense but i don’t even know what i’m talking about. my sister, mom , n me love this pod ❤
Energy can't be created or destroyed so it's eternal, no beginning and no end,it's what happens to our perceived conciousness when we die,the answer will reveal itself upon death of the physical body
I think the assumption that we can't know if another organism has consciousness is coming from a limited perspective. I've certainly experienced the consciousness of other organisms in a direct, clear, and palpable way through an understanding that is deeper than the analytical mind.
This woman is incredible. She is more in touch with the truth of things and the way of living than most I’ve ever witnessed! ❤ From her tempered approach to her commitment to the big picture, she is a true visionary. She only reveals that which she can see and leads us deep towards the genuine mystery of this life. I am blown away… chills ❤
Good evening Andre and Annaka In our future I cannot see our world NOT realising Consciousness is indeed Fundemental.😀 Loving this shared conversation. Truly thankful. 💜
If we are creators, and we can create our own reality with our beliefs, then that would mean that all truths are truths. If our intuition tells us something, and we believe it, then it must come to pass.
"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein
It’s crazy and kind of sad to me that we are still wondering and spending so much time and energy wondering and debating if plants or any other organisms have consciousness 😔
Being a wildlife carer, I see first hand animals being fully aware and conscious. Probably more than we are actually. Humans are disconnected from being conscious through alcohol, drugs, sports, food. Wild animals know I'm a wildlife carer and vegan. Birds will come close, animals will come to me for help, even all my plants thrive in my presence.
@@ransbarger I agree. We should be more concerned about the consequences of feeling/ thinking that we’re dis-connected and start recognizing that we’re all woven into the same Universal Net of Life
We live in the ocean of the mind in the cages of our beliefs, and this uniqueness is the point of our being as we learn of our own divinity by letting go.
I've had the no self experience once. You're nothing and everything at the same time. It feels amazing. I wish I could feel that way at "will" but having will comes from self. So annoying. 😂😅 life is just amazing. I love her and her soothing voice. Thank you for having her in your podcast. ❤
This was a wonderful conversation thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️🔥 Annaka has the best voice and I love her little giggle ☺️ Godspeed to you Andre 🙏🏻❤️🔥 and One and All
From my near death experiences Love (not the love we could describe but something far more ineffable) is fundamental and consciousness and all perceived resulting reality, forms and experience arises from love. But there is no language that can describe this only the direct experience of that. 🧡 Thank you for this discussion
André, the question of purpose and meaningfulness of consciousness is the matter of belief and faith. There are many coincidences, symbols, messages that appear when we open to meditation. Building faith is an audacious quest. Experience suggests it cannot be random, our existence. However, doubts are part of the journey. Thank u both for this conversation. ❤
SUCH an insightful discussion. Andre you are an amazing catalyst working towards shifting the consciousness of the present World. The vast array of topics and guests are absolutely amazing!!
We attended the Science of Consciousness Conference in Tucson April 2024, and heard Donald Hoffman speak, with David Chalmers in attendance, about "the hard problem" actually being "the wrong problem." He had very convincing arguments about the space-time paradigm being doomed, as Physicists keep running up against the ineffable.
Absolutely, space time is one of the conditions to experience life physically, but it is not the only way. Beyond that, many dimensions, invisible or not, have other rules of "Existence".
A very intense feeling of spirituality and connection is the practice of hunting. Being in nature with yourself for hours on end, will show you how very real the consciousness of the trees are. As well as your connection to the cycle of life
Great conversation Andre and Annaka! Annals you are a beautiful Soul and inspiration to many. I appreciate the way you break things down to better help everyone understand. Thank you both!
I like to approach life that everything in this physical realm is conscious. We must treat everything, most importantly ourselves, with love and respect.
Indeed, all living things are avatars of the consciousness. Like electricity can power a tiny toy to a computer or a car, it's what the consciousness is embodies in that experiences the eternal now, from that perspective. (edit: in my opinion, of course!.. And perhaps the sperm is the vehicle that consciousness travels in to build the new avatar)
The amusing aspect is that when we try to articulate our feelings, such as pain, to someone, we may believe we've conveyed them comprehensively. Likewise, the other person might earnestly strive to understand and feel they've grasped it entirely. However, what they interpret could be vastly different from our actual feelings. Despite both of us being convinced that we're on the same page, the disparity arises because their understanding is filtered through their own life experiences.
I love hearing her speak. My deep intuition of our existence aligns wholeheartedly to what she is saying ... everything. There is NO science which disproves or challenges this philosophy... in fact a lot of science points directly towards this.
I love the part about the pain. Whenever I really try to locate and feel pain, without any model of pain, only observing what the pain feels like, the feeling will move or disappear
I chose to believe there are no accidents. Even those of "evolution," science cannot conclude or answer. There is no accident that we have 2 ears, 2 eyes, and how well these were placed for our convenience. Humans are mysteriously made and highly complex.
I think I can say something about Intuation. There is a consciousness behind our minds that can see everything inside our mind, this Consciousness is an observer that never identified with our wishes or our suffering and when we have questions about God, Existence, our Souls, this Consciousness communicate with us through our Intuation. So basically, our Intuation let us know what this Higher Consciousness is responding to our questions. ( Intuation is a translator) Also, throughout Intuation, we can download or receive messages from higher dimensions of existence.
Lot's of respect for her, but I need to say to many of you out there who are experiencing profound suffering or even just daily tormets of experience: Annika and many others are mistaking causation for correlation when they talk about the sense of 'self' as being primarily behind our suffering. Yes, practice meditation. Yes, you might benefit in thousands of ways. But all of us who meditate regularly and know of the wider meditative community can tell you that it isn't so simple as saying the sense of self is driving our suffering. And the folks who find they can devote time, money and energy to developing a strong meditative practice are already people who might not be having the kinds of suffering that make it nearly impossible to 'work hard' at creating a great meditation practice. And lots of people who experience the 'bliss' of non-dual awareness are deeply suffering folks who often don't even know it. Anyway, I love her work, and can't wait to watch the whole thing many times :) But this constant talk about the self as the cause of most suffering is naive and I think is having harmful effects on the whole.
This is probably one of the most enjoyable conversations I've seen with annaka harris so far. thank you for sharing all your thoughts in such a clear and thoughtful way 🙏
I just love your laugh Annaka, you speak from your heart. Love to you all and thanks Andre for having this platform to bring all these very special special guests to us all ❤❤❤❤❤😊
I had an experience in an altered state of consciousness of being a "particle of consciousness" and my baseline "emotion" was "desire" but most intensely a "desire to be devoured and integretated" and in this experience i was in a plant, i was inside of animals, i was defication, i was soil, i was plant, and eventually I was animal, desiring to be consumed by mankind. This experience of desire and integreation waa mind bending, this short explanation doesnt so justice to the sense of the depth of the experience.
This is so exciting! I've got two degrees in marine and wildlife biology and she's right that science gets stuck in a paradigm and it takes awhile to shift to the new knowledge. As someone who reveres our gorgeous Earth and also believes (via my own experiences) that plants are conscious, I'm so grateful she's doing this work. I have the same experience Andre described about being in nature and feeling that connection with the flora and fauna and it would don't occur to me to harm it unnecessarily because that would harm me. I feel extreme love for it.
I want to say thank you for making this. I strive to know more everyday and have had the experience she talks about at 1:24:00 it's so exciting to see other people talk about this. To understand what I have felt. I love this ep, thank you, thank you, thank you!
With integration theory, the world can be a flat disc and a sphere at the same time. If most only perceive less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum but some develop other senses, many opposing beliefs and so called facts and be simultaneously perceived as true. The real danger is not being willing to change your own perception because surely nobody can find knowledge if they already have judged their own perception through psyche as the litmus.
Yes, and consciousness as well as life existing, always seems to be studied & discussed in terms of how 'we know' it is possible. Stepping outside of our limiting box WILL reveal so much more. Even regarding levels of intelligence, ours is not the only measure or standard, same with communication. Being open to what's possible, is an openness to what's possible beyond our current perspectives, or knowing.
This is why we should give people the benefit of the doubt in that which they express as their experience. Questioning others’ realities is a very strange and egocentric thing to do once you start to really take others as a part of yourself. Regardless of the impulse for the experience, the experience in itself is always inherently valid. I do not care to fear the experience of others when it isn’t my own. The vastness of experience is always welcome and allows for better caretaking of others. The more we honour people’s realities as they express them, the more they will do the same with us. We are only separate if we think we are.
Andre, you are a gem. 💎 I’ve followed you for years, & have learned so much from the conversations.. thank you for being you sir!! White looks good on you!!
This is extremely intriguing and insightful and and absolutely critical exploration for anyone that is in search of the truth... and who they, I, we, you are
I recently stopped listening to corporate controled media. Decided to find podcasts that spoke to my mind. I have come across your podcast and this is what I'm talking about the knowledge, wisdom and understanding All of your guests are astounding. From a child I've always felt things spiritually and discerned but didn't have any guidance. At 77 it is not so much for me but I can pass it on to my grandchildren and the adult children that are wise enough to listen. Thank you so much!
77, huh? You are blessed to be surrounded by people who actually care about you. I'm sure that you already know that. Nobody really cared to get to know me, so I just put my ego out there to be dealt with. Now I have regrets and a list of folks who probably want me dead. Oh well. I guess I'm just gonna have to come to terms at some point. Experience is altogether compounding, leading up to something incomprehensible and probably horrific. You know. All these sick games we play with life, never realizing that life is a gift. We use it to our own advantage, only to find out we didn't have that much control as we thought we did. Nice meeting you.👍
I did the same after my last time in Iraq, 2008, tuning out of most ofAmerican sensational media. I could really tune out after I was forced to retire due to serious medical issues that caused disabilities, but luckily I already had 24+ years.
@@GregoryMandarait’s never too late to get things back on the right track ❤ a bit of soul honesty and some apologies go a long way, people are ready to forgive when it comes from the heart! Please don’t give up! And the universe comes to assist those who are brave enough to be vulnerable and open up to love. What horrible consequences are you facing? Hope everything is okay
What a gift to your family! I wish that I had someone to pass that on to me!
LizRoland, the noted Tibetan Buddhist, Chogyam Trungpa taught to never give up on anyone. Anyone includes yourself. As I recall, Jesus taught the same thing. None of us are separate from the creation/Creator. Our ego may give up but our spirit never will.
I grew up in the desert of what's now North Scottsdale, AZ. Our house was the only one for miles around, so there no chance to socialize outside of school. Indoor entertainment was limited. Thus I spent most of my time outside, exploring. I was fascinated by the large ants that had colonies with entrances 3 feet in diameter. A colony was either red entirely or black entirely. They had wars, huge wars. I studied the aftermath of an epic battle. Dead bodies of both colors were all around a 15 foot area. Some ants were still engaged in fighting. But most ants were busy picking up the dead of their respective colonies. I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I locked my gaze onto one ant that had a dead ant of the same color in its jaws. I watched where it was going. I saw it enter a hole under a large rock. I picked up the edge of the rock and was shocked to find that the dead ants of one color were all brought to this location. Meaning the ants were burying their dead!! Can you think of the implications of this?? It meant ants had feelings, that they had a need to gather their dead colony members together. Did it mean that ants had a religious belief? They clearly had a behavior, a ritual. I went looking for a graveyard for the other color ants, and found one. I ran home and told my mom. I wish she'd contacted the university so that I would have received credit for the discovery at age 9. I believe it was a British scientist who later discovered the same truth about ants and got credit for it. That's beside the point, however . The point is that ants have consciousness as shown by the gathering and burying of their dead. And if ants do that, what do other creatures do and believe? I think it's ridiculous to think animals don't have emotions and feelings. You can see it on their faces! Or you can observe their actions.
Beautifully put, yes!!! All is conscious, Crystal's, the invisible, even thoughts got their own life. Do an egregore 'decide' to be attracted to a mindset or is it pulled, or little of both..you know what I mean. Everything, AI included, has a piece of this knowledge, this intelligence that permeates All that is.
Just because ants bury their dead, it doesn’t necessarily imply emotion. Even humans may not have started burying our dead because of some emergent spiritual paradigm. It could be as primitive as wanting to prevent scavenging predators from threatening the survival and integrity of the colony. In time these natural evolutionary processes could begin to take shape and be expressed as stories with religious implications. With that said there’s nothing wrong with believing ants have some sort of empathy for its colony. But we can’t assume that them disposing of their dead in this manner is a type of ritualistic funeral based on emotion and/or spiritual conviction. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that they have some kind of “culture”. But I think it’s important not to anthropomorphize creatures to the degree that we’re making assumptions about their behavior based on our own.
@@JordAnarchy There are too few sensible comments here. Your's is, at least, one of them. Too much WOO WOO coming from too many people. They sound like Chopra, et al.
Like, whoa, I think that, like, the ants of both colonies should have been practicing mindfulness and would have, thus, been totally chill and might well have hung out together, like, and had beers and weed together. But like, both colonies were, like, all racist and angry and stuff, and they were, like, full of bad energy. So, they, like, totally went to war against each other. Like, totally tragic, man.
@@JordAnarchyI agree. While the original observation may have been moving, I think that humans have a knack for anthropomorphizing beliefs unto others. My first logical reason for why the ants would have been doing this is the smell that a dead ant may release after being dead, and the live ants collecting this smell and putting it all in one place, so as to simplify the chaos. Say another war started, and the scent was released again. This way, there would be far less confusion if the ants had to detect where this was happening again.
I don't even know if this is the reason why, but I'm trying to think outside the box of imposing human behavior onto an ant to provide an alternate explanation for something beautifully organized-looking.
I’m amazed that Hidden Astral Projection Techniques on Shirlest isn't a bigger topic among astral projectors. The clarity and detail I found there really changed my practice for the better.
Thank you
I recommend it also
André hit it right on: The more we entrain our senses to become more caring and sensitive about literally everything in our environment, especially nature, the more grateful and appreciative we are to all things. Everything's connected;
That is the basic lesson of nature philosphy. In the so called "modern civilisation" many people has lost the connection to nature and so they are imbalenced and tend to a violent competitive lifestyle and cause damage
Yes !!! We are 1 !!!
that has been my profound experience
my goal is to fall deeply in love with a blade of grass.
@@askhollyhallas the stewards of this planet, humans should embrace and sustain the garden.
Surely, the way humans treat nature will be reflective on how those humans will treat/value strangers, neighbors and humankind.
As a 40 year nurse , working with patients that are locked in is very difficult. And I can’t even tell you exactly how I know… But I do know they’re in there. There’s something in their eyes that is very different from someone who is unconscious with eyes open. This is a great type of case to look at the idea of consciousness.
Plants are conscious. And we communicate with them. You lick the seed and plant it, it creates more of the vitamins that you are lacking. There is an incredible intelligence that supports all life.
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I turn my house plants every few months because they are conscious of the light. they most likely hate me.
yeah its called the universal conscious
Plants have a certain degree of sentience. They respond to their environment in a more complex way than a rock.
BUT, plants are not conscious.
There is Zero evidence that plants are aware that they are aware.
Only consciousness is conscious that it is conscious.
If this is true you should submit a peer reviewed paper and collect your Nobel prize.
Jokes aside, this would be extremely profound if this were true, yet the inner skeptic in me tells me it’s not. Not saying it’s true or untrue, that’s just my intuition.
Growing up my Dad would enquire, 'What you doing'. I would respond at times 'Nothing' he would intuit, you can't be doing nothing we're always doing something'. Made me think deeper as I grew. Thank you Dad for all your wisdom so far.
Loved all of this.
Again truly grateful.
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I believe that consciousness for itself, it can't experience 'nothingness'. As an example, take sleep without dreams or the experience of being under general anaesthetic. In these situations, we do not and can not experience the nothingness of that moment. We are gone, and we then instantaneously wake up again without having gone through the experience of nothingness.
I go as far as to say; well, if this is true in these scenarios, then death is an illusion because, like sleep without dreams, we can't experience 'nothingness'. When someone else is born, which could be any form of life, consciousness for itself manages to continue.
You feel like "you" as a person now. So, if you were born again in this way, "you" will feel like a "you" person again. Consciousness is this felt sense of being specifically a "you" person or being, regardless of who that experience is being felt by.
So, you will continue to feel a sense of being a "you" regardless if that is in this life or the next, or any previous life. In short "You" will ALWAYS have a felt sense of being "you". Therefore, death is an illusion. Death is just a "gap" in our awareness, like sleep without dreams, being under general anaesthetic, or being unconscious. This "gap" between death and birth follows the same path of consciousness, or this felt sense of being you.
Death isn't something to be scared of, at least with this insight into doing nothing...
@@chrisjarmainLife by definition can’t disappear and turn into death. Death being nothingness does not exist, while life does exist and hence can’t stop existing
@@ip6723 Exactly this! I agree, and hopefully what I have written says this too.
@@chrisjarmain yes
@@chrisjarmain or perhaps to have memory of an experience there might need to be a object of experience to access the memory, in deep sleep and anesthetic or death there is no experience, so we can't recall. Doesn't mean there wasn't the experience of nothing we just can't remember.
Often we can't recall dreams untill later in the day so you would wake up and conclude I had no dreams. No experience of a dream, then later oh yes I did in remember.
If you are someone who's here right now, then you are also on a higher level of consciousness as well! Give yourself a really big pat on the back & tell yourself congratulations! 🙏🏾😌 Because you really are doing a great job in life right now & you can finally relax! From this moment forward It's ok to be very gentle & easy with yourself. Because everything in existence, & anyone breathing the air of life is only here to help you succeed! Peace, freedom, love, joy, relaxation, & financial abundance are here for us from now until our ticking clock expires! And with all due respect, if you feel like screaming out loud from time to time, please do so! Because it only helps us in releasing old emotions, & it also helps us to achieve the awareness & alignment that we've been searching for from the start! I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, & I love you for helping me! Because you are me, & I am you. Thank you for your compassionate expressions! Namesté. 🙏🏾😌☮️🧘🏾♂️💚🌌
You are on the right track and a good writer, beautiful words but be aware of your advice on self congratulations.
Matthew 6:24: “You cannot serve God and Mammon.” Jesus warns against idolizing ourselves or our accomplishments, and instead encourages us to prioritize our relationship with God.
Self-congratulation and seeking praise from others can be a barrier to true spiritual growth.
Happy Birthday 🎂 🥳 Don't forget to make a wish ✨️ 🫂 🙈🙊🙉
@@sherececocco Happy birthday to you as well! ☺️🙏🏾🎂
@@Mandos16 Thank you for your reply! ☺️👌🏾
@@Emotionally_Mature thank you for your energy
We need more Annaka and Sam every day . They are gold
It makes me curious to see what their kids might bring to the world when they grow up. Granted that they take up an interest in this kind of thing. If not, I hope they do great things with whatever they pursue.
Scientist should be asking people that already found many answers like the Himalayan, Buddhist monks say that when a tree falls in the forest, the fact that all the trees around reach out their branches to fill in that space comes from compassion. So the fact that scientists haven’t discovered a lot of things it’s not because it doesn’t exist, because they haven’t raise their levels of conscious awareness of their own surroundings, much less the rest of the world.
Its the education system
Science is about data and analyzation. Consciousness beyond the sense perceptions and formations cannot be conceptualized. It's why science and spirituality are bridging now into Contemplative Sciences.
Yeah good idea- let’s ask a bunch of uneducated hill people for their lofty wisdom so we can regress several millennia and become enlightened beings. Namaste
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The modern science has willingly ignored old knowledge and wisdom, so they can refind it with their research to then claim, that they have discovered it and get the admiration for it.
I’ve always felt plants have consciousness. I don’t think we’ve fully understood what consciousness is, it permeates through all of life & just manifests differently in each.
Plant don’t have consciousness. Consciousness has consciousness, consciousness has plants
@@Neilhooz😂 What a mansplain!
@@BlahbeeThat's amazing! I hope your science project was appreciated. Sounds like it might have been ahead of it's time.
@@adriandillon7761 its important and extremely overlooked fact
Trees communicate with each other through a fungal network... They share nutrients and send more to their own offspring... They are conscious and they do bleed 😢 when we cut them ...
YES!! Annaka Harris! Dude. You are pulling down some amazing guests! Teal, Gabi, Hoffman, Annaka Harris, Dr. Ramani, Kelly Brogan... Literally six of my top ten inspirations.
The quality of this channel is amazing.
dr sweta adatia would make a great interview
100% I agree.
Can you point to one interesting thing that Annaka Harris said in this talk?
@@trakkaton I certainly can, as well as other interviews such as Lex Fridman. Her, Hoffman, and Joscha Bach pretty much define my current model of Cosmos Theory. Alas, I get the feeling that you are being advarsarial, and I gave up trying to convince people on TH-cam comments years ago. I won't be listing my arguments.
If you didn't enjoy the interview, then I am sure you will find value in some other vids laying around. It's a big world. Peace.
@@Ben_D. You know, I've become used to expecting nothing but these meaningless nothingburger "answers" such as yours. But a couple of days ago somebody actually managed to answer a question of mine (proof of an experiment that shows that jumping out of a ballon during ascend can collapse it), without evasion, fallacies, and in a detailed and factual, concrete fashion, and without just ignoring the question and loving to hear himself talk.
So there's hope.
I had 10 years ago an NDE and no day pass by that I think of it. We are not our bodies! 🙏
Of course we arent.
It wouldnt even make sense from a science perspective. We know that atoms vibrate/ are in motion. Being a body would mean that one would have to account for every single atom in every single state and say: thats me. That doesent make sense.
Everything changes in every moment and the mind still keeps saying: thats me.
Its impossible by any measurment to claim that oneself is the body.
We are not our bodies we are not our minds who are we?
@@Jsmithyy Awareness of our own soul wich is a fragmentation of God itself as far as I understand it.
@@JsmithyyI think the question “who are we?” is the wrong question. “WHAT are we” is a much more meaningful question to ask. I would say what we are is conscious awareness, and that’s the only thing we can be absolutely certain of.
So why are we stuck in those bodies and struggle to live with illness and no money everywhere you look you see pain this planet is hell
I could listen to Annaka talk about anything. Her voice is so soothing
and she’s easy on the eyes 😍
Never heard about her but OMG, she is so smart and pretty . I love her voice
She looks like Mona Lisa 😂
Understandable as you dreaming about her pu...... So this is very obvious
Until she goes "ahaaa Haa haa" 😂
The main problem with consciousness is that many people stick with the mindset, which they have been conditioned in the childhood and never questioning it. Prejudices, biases and box thinking are the walls incarcerating the human mind, getting rid of them will set the human mind free and expand the consciousness.
Well said! Namaste!
Well said? Namaste!
Well said! Namaste!
I can’t wait for the series! Annaka is such an important voice on the topic of consciousness. She appears to value explaining things clearly above almost everything and is quite skilled at communicating subtle issues, but she lacks the pretensions that often accompany communicators on this topic. Wonderful!
Yes! And Andre' asks perfect questions.
This is quickly becoming my favorite podcast. Great guests and discussions. Thank you!
Tying all these disciplines with an economy of words is such a rare talent, because so many people become hyper-focused on one subject such that they miss the insights that become apparent when someone becomes a polymath and becomes increasingly aware of the interconnectedness of things.
She defines 10:14 life as if that’s life rather than her limited experience of life. A retail worker has equal knowledge. Best we respect ourselves and honor our own book of life.
I have always felt at home in nature. I talk to the trees and they answer. I hug them and my energy harmonizes with them. I have consciously been on a journey for 7 years now, and have been pulled to the desert and the sun. It is difficult for me to be inside, and when I am, I have to be in a small room, by myself, or with my fur babies. It’s a beautiful space for me. 🙏🏽
I believe the reason why we feel at home in nature is because we actually are.
Most people in modern societies look at themselves as seperate from nature,
when in reality, we are part of it. Not born into the world, but born out of the world.
@@diggie9598 in the world, not of the world.
Well said. 🙏🏽
@@mysticalMELODY With "born out of the world" i meant "coming out of nature". Just to clarify. 🤓
@@diggie9598 I did know that thank you. I was speaking more of how I felt when I’m not in nature or hermitting.
Grand discussion. Much appreciated🙏
The jacaranda tree is originally from South America and blossoms in its’ spring which is September, and here in Spain they blossom twice… they’ve adapted to our spring and blossom in May and again in September because they still hold that memory 💜
Beautiful!
Ol’ boy was smitten by the beauty and mind in front of him. Can’t sing Annaka’s praises enough. Super underrated mind who radiates: “It’s all going to be ok”. Love hearing her perspective.
Yes I notice the glow being observed too 😊
Annika's and Andre's voices and body language are so soothing ❤
If I was a better man I’d say they was attracted to each other..a lot of smiling when looking and talking at each other ❤️❤️
@@ianmckenzie2680 100%%%% I sensed this. But a convo turn on is also a thing too
@@ianmckenzie2680They are so hot for each other and weirdly that only seems to empower the discussion even further. Every time she giggled at his line of reasoning like a teenage girl, she would immediately follow up with a calm and well thought out explanation of her point of view and the basis for it. Amazing.
2:05:57 consciousness is a fundamental aspect of reality and that each quantum perspective emits an emotional tone. This emotional tone can be managed by consciousness on a moment-by-moment basis. It suggests that consciousness seeks to move from reactive suffering to actively choosing love.
In relation to “The Road Less Traveled,” this idea aligns with M. Scott Peck’s themes of self-awareness, personal responsibility, and the conscious choice to confront difficulties and choose love. Both perspectives emphasize the power of conscious decision-making in transforming one’s experience and fostering spiritual growth.
During a difficult time, practiced meditating with the intent of matching the energy of rocks. It helped me feel calm. One day many years later, I glanced at a rose quartz stone that was resting on my desk. Somehow I just knew that stone could see all the happenings in the universe. I hope some day to be as smart as a rock.
What a charming, charismatic, delightful and plain-lovely lady!
I just love her and it’s an absolute pleasure listening in on this discussion!
Thank you!
@ 15:30 This explains why PTSD is so hard to beat. We need to be targeting locked in body memories as well as emotions, subconscious and conscious reactions etc.
What does @15:30 , the numbers mean?
I am a physicist and I explain why current physics leaves not room for the possibility that brain processes can be a sufficient condition for the existence of consciousness. The hypothesis that consciousness emerges from, or can be identified with physical, chemical or biological processes is incompatible with current physics.
It is a scientifically established fact that a mental experience is associated with numerous distinct microscopic physical processes that occur at different points; there is no physical entity that connects all these distinct microscopic processes, therefore the existence of mental experience requires an element of connection that is not described by current physics. This missing element of connection can be identified with what we traditionally refer to as the soul (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations).
Emergent properties are often thought of as arising from complex systems (like the brain). However, I argue that these properties are subjective cognitive constructs that depend on the level of abstraction we choose to analyze and describe the system. Since these descriptions are mind-dependent, consciousness, being implied by these cognitive contructs, cannot itself be an emergent property.
Preliminary considerations: the concept of set refers to something that has an intrinsically conceptual and subjective nature and implies the arbitrary choice of determining which elements are to be included in the set; what can exist objectively are only the individual elements. Defining a set is like drawing an imaginary line to separate some elements from others. This line doesn't exist physically; it’s a mental construct. The same applies to sequences of processes-they are abstract concepts created by our minds.
Mental experiences are necessary for the existence of subjectivity/arbitrariness and cognitive constructs; Therefore, mental experience itself cannot be just a cognitive construct.
Obviously we can conceive the concept of consciousness, but the concept of consciousness is not actual consciousness; We can talk about consciousness or about pain, but merely talking about it isn’t the same as experiencing it. (With the word consciousness I do not refer to self-awareness, but to the property of being conscious= having a mental experiences such as sensations, emotions, thoughts, memories and even dreams)
From the above considerations it follows that only indivisible elements may exist objectively and independently of consciousness, and consequently the only logically coherent and significant statement is that consciousness exists as a property of an indivisible element. Furthermore, this indivisible entity must interact globally with brain processes because there is a well-known correlation between brain processes and consciousness. However, this indivisible entity cannot be physical, since according to the laws of physics, there is no physical entity with such properties. The soul is the missing element that interprets globally the distinct elementary physical processes occurring at separate points in the brain as a unified mental experience.
Clarifications
The brain itself doesn't exist as a completely mind-independent entity. The concept of the brain is based on separating a group of quantum particles from everything else, which is a subjective process, not dictated purely by the laws of physics. Actually there is a continuous exchange of molecules with the blood and when and how such molecules start and stop being part of the brain is decided arbitrarily. An example may clarify this point: the concept of nation. Nation is not a physical entity and does not refer to a mind-independent entity because it is just a set of arbitrarily chosen people. The same goes for the brain.
Brain processes consist of many parallel sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes occurring at separate points. There is no direct connection between the separate points in the brain and such connections are just a subjective abstractions used to approximately describe sequences of many distinct physical processes. Indeed, considering consciousness as a property of an entire sequence of elementary processes implies the arbitrary definition of the entire sequence; the entire sequence as a whole (and therefore every function/property/capacity attributed to the brain) is a subjective abstraction that does not refer to any mind-independendent reality.
Physicalism/naturalism is based on the belief that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. However, an emergent property is defined as a property that is possessed by a set of elements that its individual components do not possess; my arguments prove that this definition implies that emergent properties are only subjective cognitive constructs and therefore, consciousness cannot be an emergent property. Actually, emergent properties are just simplified and approximate descriptions or subjective classifications of underlying physical processes or properties, which are described directly by the fundamental laws of physics alone, without involving any emergent properties (arbitrariness/subjectivity is involved when more than one option/description is possible). An approximate description is only an abstract idea, and no actual entity exists per se corresponding to that approximate description, simply because an actual entity is exactly what it is and not an approximation of itself. What physically exists are the underlying physical processes. Emergence is nothing more than a cognitive construct that is applied to physical phenomena, and cognition itself can only come from a mind; thus emergence can never explain mental experience as, by itself, it implies mental experience.
Conclusions
My approach is based on scientific knowledge of the brain's physical processes. My arguments show that physicalism is incompatible with the very foundations of scientific knowledge because current scientific understanding of molecular processes excludes the possibility that brain processes alone can account for the existence of consciousness.
An indivisible non-physical element must exist as a necessary condition for the existence of consciousness because mental experiences are linked to many distinct physical processes occurring at different points; it is therefore necessary for all these distinct processes to be interpreted collectively by a mind-independent element, and a mind-independent element can only be intrinsically indivisible because it cannot depend on subjectivity. This indivisible element cannot be physical because the laws of physics do not describe any physical entity with the required properties.
Marco Biagini
Conscious awareness is a controlled hallucination, from both endogenous & reactive mechanisms.
Conscious awareness is knowing we will die one day
@@Craft-oh7uv The point is that a hallucination is a conscious mental experience while endogenous and reactive mechanisms are just cognitive constructs that refer to many underlying microscopic processes. Therefore, your statement cannot explain the existence of consciousness since it implicitly presupposes the existence of consciousness.
Like Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup I think consciousness is fundamental, primal, probably eternal, and infinite yet not necessarily complex in and of itself. I think the "content of consciousness" is what is emergent, multifarious, and complex, informational, however illusory, and probably best represented by something akin to Stephen Wolfram's hypergraph of networked cellular automata nodes, threads of order woven throughout a sea of most likely binary chaos arising through the sheer inevitability of probability and the infinite.
@@canjian1783 Consciousness is a concept that refers to the property of being conscious= having a mental experience, such as sensastions, emotions, thoughts or even dreams. The fundamental property of consciousness, as we directly experience it, is subjectivity, i.e. the immediate and intuitive awareness of oneself as an indivisible unit, our "I". Consciousness is inherently subjective because a subject is an intrinsic property of experience, and subjectivity cannot be broken down into simpler elements / pieces.
So, the term “consciousness” always refers to a subject who has a mental experience. For example, when we feel pain, what exists is not pain alone but “we who feel pain”; the “we” is an intrinsic part of the experience of pain. The same is true for any action: for example, there is no “walking” without a “walking subject”. The idea that an experience can exist without an experiencer is simply a nonsensical expression, exactly as the expression “spherical cube”, which is an expression formed by juxtaposing two words whose meaning is mutually exclusive, thus leading to an intrinsic logical contradiction. Language allows us to form meaningless expressions and this can create illusory definitions; these expressions may create the illusion of a meaning, while being devoid of any meaning. The idea that consciousness can be subjectless or exists as a fundamental impersonal entity, in the sense that it does not imply a unitary subjectivity that has a mental experience, is an illusory idea exactly like the idea of a spherical cube or the idea that there may be a “walking” without a “walking subject”.
What distinguishes science from supertitions or philosophical speculations is that science is a combination of logic and empirical evidence, and the most fundamental and direct empirical evidence is that we are the subject of our mental experiences.
The idea that the existence of distinct personal subjects is an illusion is just an irrational and unscientific assumption that contradicts the most fundamental empirical evidence, namely the fact that a person cannot feel the thoughts or sensations of others.
Great interview and she is crystal clear in her communication.
“You are not what you think you are.” Actually, you are exactly what you think you are. You can never be what you are not conscious of being. Nothing exists outside of consciousness.
I love how your conversations always mirror the things that I'm thinking about/going through in my life!
Love it 💜
I totally resonate and he’s, my Moon is Cancer. July is very difficult, the 5th & 6th ate anniversaries of my mother’s death and when I married a narcissist only to be she two miscarriages a year apart in July. Not my favorite month snd darker energies to bs wishes. Take filly sense I had to walk away from an entire abusive family after my mothers death as it revealed who they are because of trust matters. My 1st cousin, the attorney. 11 mos younger then me deceived all of us, yet I’m the villain because I stood up for my rights. I had a two year dark night of the soul, and am healing. Thank you so much!!!❤️🥰💕
So sorry to hear. God bless 🙏🏼 ✨💖
I think we, Cancerians are going through some shit right now! July is like the midway "hump month" for the year, for lack of a better word. I feel like I'm always transitioning for all the people in my life. We are the outlet of growth...it's a lot of accountability! 😮❤ My birthday is also this month! ❤
Love this conversation! All life matters no matter where it is in the evolution or ascension process. If we can shed light on suffering I think it would truly help us evolve and ascend...and when you are aware that you have a choice to shed light it really matters...
It involves discipline to experience the true nature of consciousness. By virtue of such discipline, one can easily do it. There are scriptures and authority that can help understand the discipline involved. I appreciate you so much. I am a Hindu monk living the renounced order of life for more than 40 years.
Great conversation! I started to go on walks daily, in nature, and focusing on the beauty of the plants and birds and feel a total shift in the experience. Birds are now flying in front of me (never happened before).
I sense that these two should have a frequent online conversation. Their wealth of knowledge, questions, insights, etc is spot on. Please do more of this...and thank you!❤
i don’t remember if i read something from seth speaks and came to this conclusion but since atoms cannot be created and destroyed, since the dawn of time the universe has been comprised of the same atoms, think of the billions of years seemingly before us, (truly there is an empty void which gives our perception so many different forms and patterns) , these atoms have always been here, in a rock a million years ago, now in me, everything is alive. everything must be loved and respected bc we know that particles change when they’re observed, when charged with positivity. i could go on and on making no sense but i don’t even know what i’m talking about. my sister, mom , n me love this pod ❤
Seth speaks and Seth Material,was/is a incredible mind opening book.
Really enjoyed Oversoul Seven trilogy, easier for others as a beginner book. 😊
Energy can't be created or destroyed so it's eternal, no beginning and no end,it's what happens to our perceived conciousness when we die,the answer will reveal itself upon death of the physical body
I think the assumption that we can't know if another organism has consciousness is coming from a limited perspective. I've certainly experienced the consciousness of other organisms in a direct, clear, and palpable way through an understanding that is deeper than the analytical mind.
I believe in plants and trees is consciousness ❤
Thanks for great conversation!
This woman is incredible. She is more in touch with the truth of things and the way of living than most I’ve ever witnessed! ❤ From her tempered approach to her commitment to the big picture, she is a true visionary. She only reveals that which she can see and leads us deep towards the genuine mystery of this life. I am blown away… chills ❤
Good evening Andre and Annaka
In our future I cannot see our world NOT realising Consciousness is indeed Fundemental.😀
Loving this shared conversation.
Truly thankful.
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Annaka and Sam are compassionate giants whose influence will impact countless generations. Thank you both for helping me to feel not alone.
If we are creators, and we can create our own reality with our beliefs, then that would mean that all truths are truths.
If our intuition tells us something, and we believe it, then it must come to pass.
"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein
It’s crazy and kind of sad to me that we are still wondering and spending so much time and energy wondering and debating if plants or any other organisms have consciousness 😔
I think people are afraid to admit this. And for people who believe death is the worst thing that happens, there will be nothing to eat.
Being a wildlife carer, I see first hand animals being fully aware and conscious. Probably more than we are actually. Humans are disconnected from being conscious through alcohol, drugs, sports, food.
Wild animals know I'm a wildlife carer and vegan. Birds will come close, animals will come to me for help, even all my plants thrive in my presence.
@@ransbarger I agree. We should be more concerned about the consequences of feeling/ thinking
that we’re dis-connected and start recognizing that we’re all woven into the same Universal Net of Life
@@rebeccamay1111 thank you - its so calming to not feel alone in this awareness and to give myself more permission to be more myself
thank you dear - same thoughts
We live in the ocean of the mind in the cages of our beliefs, and this uniqueness is the point of our being as we learn of our own divinity by letting go.
I've had the no self experience once. You're nothing and everything at the same time. It feels amazing. I wish I could feel that way at "will" but having will comes from self. So annoying. 😂😅 life is just amazing. I love her and her soothing voice. Thank you for having her in your podcast. ❤
I’ve had that experience and it was scary
This was a wonderful conversation thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️🔥 Annaka has the best voice and I love her little giggle ☺️ Godspeed to you Andre 🙏🏻❤️🔥 and One and All
From my near death experiences Love (not the love we could describe but something far more ineffable) is fundamental and consciousness and all perceived resulting reality, forms and experience arises from love. But there is no language that can describe this only the direct experience of that. 🧡 Thank you for this discussion
“Reality is not only stranger than we suppose, it’s stranger than we CAN suppose.” -Terence McKenna
André, the question of purpose and meaningfulness of consciousness is the matter of belief and faith. There are many coincidences, symbols, messages that appear when we open to meditation. Building faith is an audacious quest. Experience suggests it cannot be random, our existence. However, doubts are part of the journey. Thank u both for this conversation. ❤
Her laugh brings me joy
SUCH an insightful discussion. Andre you are an amazing catalyst working towards shifting the consciousness of the present World. The vast array of topics and guests are absolutely amazing!!
We attended the Science of Consciousness Conference in Tucson April 2024, and heard Donald Hoffman speak, with David Chalmers in attendance, about "the hard problem" actually being "the wrong problem." He had very convincing arguments about the space-time paradigm being doomed, as Physicists keep running up against the ineffable.
Absolutely, space time is one of the conditions to experience life physically, but it is not the only way. Beyond that, many dimensions, invisible or not, have other rules of "Existence".
A very intense feeling of spirituality and connection is the practice of hunting. Being in nature with yourself for hours on end, will show you how very real the consciousness of the trees are. As well as your connection to the cycle of life
Great conversation Andre and Annaka! Annals you are a beautiful Soul and inspiration to many. I appreciate the way you break things down to better help everyone understand. Thank you both!
Everything that contains energy is conscious and aware on some levels… everything is alive.
Annika's eyes are smiling , what a lovely guest A ❤
Belief is not synonymous with intuition and often supresses intuition.
Thank you! Intuition with beliefs and hypothesis....
thank you, I was also thinking that the term was used too vaguely
Well done and people like you IS Why I read the comments.
I like to approach life that everything in this physical realm is conscious. We must treat everything, most importantly ourselves, with love and respect.
Consciousness is fundamental, universally. This planet is one conscious living organism ,and all things in it are conscious just as in any other body.
Indeed, all living things are avatars of the consciousness. Like electricity can power a tiny toy to a computer or a car, it's what the consciousness is embodies in that experiences the eternal now, from that perspective. (edit: in my opinion, of course!.. And perhaps the sperm is the vehicle that consciousness travels in to build the new avatar)
The amusing aspect is that when we try to articulate our feelings, such as pain, to someone, we may believe we've conveyed them comprehensively. Likewise, the other person might earnestly strive to understand and feel they've grasped it entirely. However, what they interpret could be vastly different from our actual feelings.
Despite both of us being convinced that we're on the same page, the disparity arises because their understanding is filtered through their own life experiences.
Separating intuition from the programming is key
Also, the new religion of science
@jusme8060
Well said. Intuition vs Programming
I love hearing her speak. My deep intuition of our existence aligns wholeheartedly to what she is saying ... everything. There is NO science which disproves or challenges this philosophy... in fact a lot of science points directly towards this.
When I heard her voice I know I can trust her
I love the part about the pain. Whenever I really try to locate and feel pain, without any model of pain, only observing what the pain feels like, the feeling will move or disappear
I chose to believe there are no accidents. Even those of "evolution," science cannot conclude or answer. There is no accident that we have 2 ears, 2 eyes, and how well these were placed for our convenience. Humans are mysteriously made and highly complex.
Yes there are accidents. "Choosing" to not believe in them doesn't make them not exist.
I think I can say something about Intuation.
There is a consciousness behind our minds that can see everything inside our mind, this Consciousness is an observer that never identified with our wishes or our suffering and when we have questions about God, Existence, our Souls, this Consciousness communicate with us through our Intuation.
So basically, our Intuation let us know what this Higher Consciousness is responding to our questions. ( Intuation is a translator)
Also, throughout Intuation, we can download or receive messages from higher dimensions of existence.
Simples! I like this. I need to listen to my intuition more, but easily distracted by this darn reality. x
I'm here!!!
Where? It does not matter.
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Love is Fundamental, Love is Foundation ❤ 🙏 Annaka Harris 👍 Good show
Lot's of respect for her, but I need to say to many of you out there who are experiencing profound suffering or even just daily tormets of experience: Annika and many others are mistaking causation for correlation when they talk about the sense of 'self' as being primarily behind our suffering.
Yes, practice meditation. Yes, you might benefit in thousands of ways. But all of us who meditate regularly and know of the wider meditative community can tell you that it isn't so simple as saying the sense of self is driving our suffering.
And the folks who find they can devote time, money and energy to developing a strong meditative practice are already people who might not be having the kinds of suffering that make it nearly impossible to 'work hard' at creating a great meditation practice.
And lots of people who experience the 'bliss' of non-dual awareness are deeply suffering folks who often don't even know it.
Anyway, I love her work, and can't wait to watch the whole thing many times :) But this constant talk about the self as the cause of most suffering is naive and I think is having harmful effects on the whole.
This is probably one of the most enjoyable conversations I've seen with annaka harris so far. thank you for sharing all your thoughts in such a clear and thoughtful way 🙏
She is sharp
Благодарим ви!
Empath understand. I experience from the inside others consciousness. I also experience a type of telepathy with all creatures.
I just love your laugh Annaka, you speak from your heart. Love to you all and thanks Andre for having this platform to bring all these very special special guests to us all ❤❤❤❤❤😊
I had an experience in an altered state of consciousness of being a "particle of consciousness" and my baseline "emotion" was "desire" but most intensely a "desire to be devoured and integretated" and in this experience i was in a plant, i was inside of animals, i was defication, i was soil, i was plant, and eventually I was animal, desiring to be consumed by mankind.
This experience of desire and integreation waa mind bending, this short explanation doesnt so justice to the sense of the depth of the experience.
Wow! Amazing
This is so exciting! I've got two degrees in marine and wildlife biology and she's right that science gets stuck in a paradigm and it takes awhile to shift to the new knowledge. As someone who reveres our gorgeous Earth and also believes (via my own experiences) that plants are conscious, I'm so grateful she's doing this work. I have the same experience Andre described about being in nature and feeling that connection with the flora and fauna and it would don't occur to me to harm it unnecessarily because that would harm me. I feel extreme love for it.
love this
Brother, you are doing the "Lord's Work" for real! Thank you for the Know Thyself podcast and for this gorgeous soul's 2 hour interview!! ❤❤❤
I had a mystical experience where I went into the ground and I was a worm. I was exactly like I am now. My consciousness did not shift at all
What were you on?
So cool!
Its a good job a Mole did'nt bump into you for his dinner!
Don’t make me stop using worms when I’m fishing bro..
One time….. i was a eagle
Thank you, this is definitely a channel that I really enjoy. Always intelligent conversations with good content. 🙏❤️
Crystals are alive just like trees are alive❤
How? Quantify please.
Brilliant conversation and so nice to listen to you both. Thank you!
Plants will move in response to music, sudden angry sound or noise.
I want to say thank you for making this. I strive to know more everyday and have had the experience she talks about at 1:24:00 it's so exciting to see other people talk about this. To understand what I have felt. I love this ep, thank you, thank you, thank you!
With integration theory, the world can be a flat disc and a sphere at the same time. If most only perceive less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum but some develop other senses, many opposing beliefs and so called facts and be simultaneously perceived as true. The real danger is not being willing to change your own perception because surely nobody can find knowledge if they already have judged their own perception through psyche as the litmus.
Yes, and consciousness as well as life existing, always seems to be studied & discussed in terms of how 'we know' it is possible. Stepping outside of our limiting box WILL reveal so much more. Even regarding levels of intelligence, ours is not the only measure or standard, same with communication. Being open to what's possible, is an openness to what's possible beyond our current perspectives, or knowing.
So she experiences the earth as flat but sees a sun rise and knows it's round. What
Fascinating conversation, thank you for always sharing these thought provoking experiences with us❤
This is why we should give people the benefit of the doubt in that which they express as their experience. Questioning others’ realities is a very strange and egocentric thing to do once you start to really take others as a part of yourself. Regardless of the impulse for the experience, the experience in itself is always inherently valid. I do not care to fear the experience of others when it isn’t my own. The vastness of experience is always welcome and allows for better caretaking of others. The more we honour people’s realities as they express them, the more they will do the same with us. We are only separate if we think we are.
Incredible interview, as always, thank you both 💫
That was my introduction to Anneke Harris. Thank you, loved it.🙃🙏🙏💯
Omg the part about plants summoning insects….. goosebumps!!! 😮
OMG !! the depth of this conversation is mind blowing !!!
Any awareness of what is happening is conscious. Insects ect.. it is universal. The level changes with complexity in this reality. Good interview.
Andre, you are a gem. 💎 I’ve followed you for years, & have learned so much from the conversations.. thank you for being you sir!! White looks good on you!!
This is extremely intriguing and insightful and and absolutely critical exploration for anyone that is in search of the truth... and who they, I, we, you are
Great conversation! Annika was super clear and all great reflections and triggers to think and focus on the important things in life 👏🏻
Andre, your 'woo-woo' is real Divine! Namaste, dear soul!
This woman has one of the most infectious laughs I have ever heard. I love it!