The fact that the 64bit version of Raspbian comes as a bare bones install is what I like most about it ! Having used mostly Windows ,iOS and a bit of android (on my phone ) being able to choose what I want to install and not having features , programmes and apps that I will never use jammed down my throat is so liberating !
Maybe the OS installers should simply have a "recommended software" page, where you can tick what you do and don't want. So that you can leave it all unticked for "bare bones", if this is your preference, but you can also tick "all" and have all the recommended software installed, if you like your OS to come pre-loaded with stuff. This seems the logical place to put such a thing, and could cut down on the number of different ISOs. Because I think that, for new users, the vast array of versions and desktops and different bitage is all very confusing and complicated. Indeed, maybe distros should consider, instead of providing many different versions and desktops and things, provide a single installer that can ask you what desktop and software you want on installation. Admittedly, it'll make the installer image bigger but, these days, microSD cards and USB sticks are all nice and big for fairly cheap prices. Basically, as time progresses, hardware and storage gets bigger and better, not requiring us to be so concerned to save every last byte anymore.
I think the Raspberry pi foundation got it right with the recommended programs section in the main menu - a few more programs would be nice though . Operating systems like Windows 8 and later were really bogged down with the app style of interface and a lot of bloatware , if most people took the time to sit down and write down the features and programmes they really need they will soon see that 90% of what is installed is never used . This is done to sell the product as it looks nicer with all these pretty looking but mostly useless things just jumping out at you from the monitor . I will never understand why Windows has sample music , games or pictures - fine create the file / folder but don’t populate it with garbage . With Windows I have to go online to register the product so they could offer a link to a suite of downloads there . The first thing I do with a new iPad or android device is to delete all the apps I won’t use - which is most of them !
I've tried a lot of different Pi distros but always ended up back with Raspbian. However since they made USB flash drive booting super simple, if you get one of those USB 3.0 hubs with a switch for each socket it's easy to just power on whichever flash drive you want to boot from and power the others off of course. That makes trying out different OS's very easy compared to juggling SD cards. But more than that, makes it very easy for your Pi to switch between multiple roles quickly. Tip - buy flash drives that are big enough to actually stick a label on ! :)
That's a clever idea. I used to use a multi-port USB hub as a sort of poor-man's NAS, same principle. But never thought of it as a boot selector device!
The fact that you always ended up back with Raspbian should tell you something. Install the programs that you need on ONE OS so you don't have to reboot to do a simple task. Tip: Find something you like, learn it well, and stick with it.
For multi-booting from USB try Easy2Boot, you can install .iso files in a directory then select from them when booting; all from a nice simple interface.
Great list. Raspberry OS lite 64-bit is my sweet spot after a couple of tweaks: - For added security, I add a new user and then delete the default pi user. I found that this turns the raspberry pi OS into a vanilla Debian distro. - Next, I install XFCE4 as a desktop environment. I add Compton for a tear-free video playback experience as windows compositor manager. I tweak thunar for smb network support including adding gvfs gfvs-backend and gvfs-fuse. Then I install chromium 32-bit with widevine (32-bit) for netflix and disney+. And finally I add VLC, Audacious and libreoffice for a complete desktop experience, plus pi-apps for additional native software support. - This configuration runs flawlessly in my Raspberry Pi 4 8GB from an SD card, overclocked to 2147, over-voltage to 13, gpu freq to 750, and force_turbo to 1. Next on my list is manjaro, as is such an eye candy and functionally flawless and full-featured, albeit a bit heavy. Next are the ubuntu flavours but the pi really struggles here. And last for me is twister OS mainly due to the lack of multi-user support out-of-the-box.
11:45 little mistake here! The manjaro edition also have xfce and sway (Tilling Window Manager). You may not seen it because of the zoom in the page. Its avaiable in the rpi imager as well. In my testings, the sway and gnome editions failed in reconizing my brazilian keyboard, but aside from that, they re great editions. The manjaro sway did perform similar to the raspbian i3 (novaspirit's channel tutorial). Ive managed to use the raspbian i3 for a month as my main OS with a crappy 8gb sd!
Amazing video portraying performance of newer Raspberry Pi compatible OSs for 2022. Pi OS being on top is obviously no surprise at all. Wish you an amazing week ahead, Chris. :)
Got 3 SD cards mate, manjaro, and raspi os. I think these 3 are the best in my opinion, I tried Ubuntu but so many bugs and crashes, also reboots on it's own sometimes so I decided to use these 3 for now. Great video it's always exciting keep up the amazing work you do. God bless
Well-argued, elaborate comparison, thx. Obviously, "best" OS is a question of personal use & taste. After trying several OS, I stick to TwisterOS Lite-faster than the standard edition of TwisterOS and by my experience with a better cpu temperature management than Pi OS (I'm using a Pi 4B w/ 4 GB).
I run Twister OS and Raspberry Pi OS on a pi 4 8g clocked to 2.2 gigahertz never had any issues with a Argon40 Neo case and of course the fan for said case just take the cover off when you have it running ;)
Thanks Chris for this comparison so we don't have to do this by ourselves. And appreciate your speech pacing and accent as well, which is obviously friendly to the non-native speaker like me - never need the CC in any of your videos, which is great at any time!
Absolutely love all the various distros now offering either official or unofficial releases for the Pi. So many amazing options for a tiny single board system I personally use to hold my development site on and a personal minecraft server.
I agree with you on your list. I switch between Manjaro and Rasp Pi OS 64 bit. Your presentation should aid anyone in choosing a proper OS for their Pi. Thanks!
Great Video again, THANKS !! I also tried a few distro's on my Pi 400 .... Now I'm running Pop OS and installed Hypnotix version 1.1 to watch TV stations from around the world and it runs GREAT !!
Nice selection. I've yet to try Twister for myself but have seen quite a number of videos on it and it looks excellent. Manjaro I have used on the Pi 3 and 4 but Pi OS is still my usual OS of choice.
@@Uniblab8 it's not an OS, it's a mod, a userspace mod. It's like installing rpi os, making some changes, creating a backup and redistribute it. That's twisterOS. It's a custom image.
@@microlinux You're right, actually. In the truest sense, it is a souped-up RPi OS. For me, it's a fun environment for me and it screams on my Pis, plus its kind of fun.
I have tried various distros over the years, mainly on low powered Windows machines but haven't found one that I could really get used to. This list has given me some ideas.
TwisterOS is great. I use it all the time.e, though I have this weird feeling that it is a bit clinky, and out of date. Still is the OS I recommend to people for the Pi, as it makes it easy for people to get on with it.
@@ExplainingComputers I hope there is an updated version, especially if it can take advantage of the speed increase. That is the biggest positive to RPi OS, from what I can see. The speed in CPU is something to consider. Also, the graphical installer is a wonderful idea. I gave up trying to install packages and programs, as I never can work out from the long lists of unhelpful texts, what it was I was looking at, and if it was what I wanted. If Twister OS was to incorporate those elements into it, then it would be a massive step forwards. At least, to my reckoning.
As always great video! I bought my Raspberry Pi 4B 8Gb yesterday and very happy with it. I tried to run Metatrader 4 and Metatrader 5 with Box86 and Wine (both installed through Pi Apps) and got no result. I'll give it a try to Twister OS, because it seems it have installed all compatibility utilities by default. Thanks for the great content, have a good day :D
Great review Chris. I have only run and used Ubuntu desktop and Raspberry Pi OSs on my Pi 4 and 400. I have settled on Raspberry Pi 64 bit for all Pi devices. They are all either 4 or 8 GB RAM machines.
Agree entirely with those rankings Chris. I've been running the beta of RP OS 64 for a while, and if you want best performance you really do need to run a 64 bit OS on a 64 bit processor, with a light desktop. One way to cheat on video playback and indeed generally get faster web browser performance is to use something like Puffin browser - essentially a web based web browser whereby the processing is largely done in the cloud. Otherwise 64 bit Chromium does a better job than others IMO. For me the beauty of a Pi is the very low power consumption. I find that for most general computing needs a Pi4 or 400 copes well enough and runs at
Fantastic! I really like Twister OSs Nostalgia Engine for Windows Nerds (NEWN) aka 'Themes'. I grew up on Win95, Win98, 2000, XP, Win7, and its great to be able to use a safe, modern OS that mimic the look in feel of those fabled OSs. That being said, thank Mr. Barnatt for yet another great video. Very precise and comprehensive. Its like you teach computers for a living or something. ;D
It's a really fun OS, isn't it? Very functional and clever. They developed this strictly for the Pi so good on them. Look up Leepsvideo on TH-cam. He is also brilliant when it comes to RPi or Twister OS and a bunch of other stuff. Between him and Chris I gets tons of info and ideas for my RPis.
Great video CB! I was just thinking about getting my RPi units back out of storage, after a relocation last year. I'd like to compile Qt6 for the RPi anyway--but now I have some great ideas about which OS to go get. That Twister OS looks very cool, especially with those desktop performance widgets in their standard theme, but as others have said: In the end I always seem to just go with the stock OS from the RPi folks. But your work on making this video saved me a TON of time, so I greatly appreciate you making/posting it! It's also great to see you closing in on 1M subscribers! It will be a very exciting day for you when that happens, I'm sure--but you definitely deserve it, given the work you do in putting all these presentations together!
Funny, I actually watched your video on TwisterOS the other night and there it is again in this video. I really dig the concept of an idea of a OS that lets you change the appearance of it to make it look more like your favorite Windows OS. Now, if only it had solitaire and that space pinball game on it. ;) Anyway, cheers on another great video! This'll truly come in handy for those interested in getting a Pi and trying to choose which OS to throw on there. (myself included) :D
Great video Chris. 64 bit Raspian has been working great for me the last week or so. Now to find a way to easily transfer my Docker Containers and Caddy
Thank you.i am very very new to expanding my computer engineering knowledge, and hearing a seasoned veteran vouch for the default rsp os is quite eye opeing! It makes sense though now!
Keep finding myself back with Twister OS for my pi 400. I just went through a few of those distros this past weekend and while I liked something about each of them, Twister OS seems to have everything I want right out of the box. I just wish it was 64-bit. If not Twister then I would have to say Pi OS lite with KDE Plasma desktop. Great video.
When Raspberry Pi’s first come to market, who would have thought they would be so popular in 2022, now with so many operating systems that do a decent job there are even more popular. Keep up the good work Chris I enjoy your videos.
@@NaeMuckle / Games. Due to the fact the most modern games require very powerful CPU’s and GPU’s will hold back game development , that said there are hundreds of games from other older platforms that can be played on a Pi Quote off the net: RetroPie is a software library used to emulate retro video games on the Raspberry Pi computer. It's one of the most popular Raspberry Pi projects out there and the most popular emulation system for the Raspberry Pi. RetroPie features a user-friendly interface and an even friendlier setup process.Sept 15, 2021
@@NewAgeDIY I'm not talking about modern games or emulated games. But emulated android and some pc games run well on pi. A ground up coded game for the pi would run brilliantly. I've been through just about every emulator, made my pi an amiga, put one in an atari case. I still one a purpose made game for the pi the same way amstrad and spectrum games were made for the bare metal.
@@NaeMuckle / your right on all points. That said unless a large game developer is willing to spend the money to design a game from the game up. The only other way is to port a popular game over to the Pi. I would love to see GTA 5 running on a Raspberry Pi. The next release could have a more powerful CPU /GPU with more memory. That also mean a more expensive board.
Another great video, well done Chris!!! I own a pi3 and a pi4 (8GB model) and tried many distros...finally i settled on MXrpi and Manjaro( kde and xfce versions) . MX works for me better than the raspberry pi os or twister and also runs on the pi3 model pretty well!!! By adding pi_apps lately lots of new software is now available... On the other hand Manjaro Kde looks snapier than xfce...Manjaro versions offer less software, but by adding the AUR from pamac tool things get much better!!! Thank you very much for another great video!!!
Thank you so much for this video! I am a Mac user and installed Twister just for fun ( I am new to this Raspberry Pi thing) and I do enjoy Twister, especially the Mac theme. I did discover a nice plus; under the bookshelf app is a very large collection of the MagPi magazine ! Thanks again for all that you do.
I've been using the Manjaro Plasma edition as my daily driver for work (mostly for programming, word processing and web browsing) for over a month and I have to agree that it is surprisingly stable. I was expecting all kinds of problems when first transitioning to a Raspberry Pi as a daily driver but everything works out of the box 99% of the time. I haven't tried the other distros on the list so I can't compare, but Manjaro certainly is a solid choice.
Another excellent video. When I had my Pi 3B it was used solely for gaming, so I only ever ran Retropie. I recently managed to pick up a Pi4 8GB model and have not yet decided on an operating system, so this video helps.
I was really shocked and impressed with Twister and the different theming options like Win XP. Is there a community of theme creators online where you can get more themes than just the ones that install with Twister? Or are those the only ones? 🤞🏻 that there are other themes 🤞🏻 I'm also happy to see that once I get my first Pi I'll have the option to use it as I do Windows rather than having to use Command Lines. I'd rather learn the basics of Pi OS first before jumping into the more "advanced" uses. Great video!
Perfect timing!!! I was just noticing all of the new arm distros for the raspberry pi. My pi 4b has been being used as an emulator for older games. Now it looks like I'll be ArchLinux BTWing on my Pi! Stoked I can use all 8 gigs of ram.
I am a Ubuntu Mate user and I am in your position now: my all in one computer is broken and I use a Raspberry Pi 4 witn 4 gb ram as a desktop until the aio comes back from service. In order to take advantage of the 6.2 kernel optimizations I flashed 64 bit ubuntu on a ssd drive via usb adaptor. In that regular ubuntu distro i installed ubuntu mate desktop with all it's programs and lightdm via apt so now i have a up to date ubuntu mate distro with linux kernel 6.2 which runs better on rpi4 than the lts distro available on their site with kernel 5.1 on it.
Being a slow convert to Linux on an old Laptop.. and settling on Linux Mint its nice to see theres something that supports the Mate desktop. After playing with a few, thats a nice setup and comfortable to use
Very timely as I only just got my Pi 4 8GB last weekend! Thanks for this. I've been running Ubuntu desktop and am not happy with it. Very sluggish and does crash. Also had some issues with drivers for my USB mouse/keyboard that required configuration hacks to make it work. One thing I did notice is that Chromium runs better/faster than Firefox on Ubuntu. But overall Ubuntu is unusable as a desktop on Pi 4. Fortunately this is a backup system not my main driver. I'll be switching to either Raspian or Manjaro on the Pi. On the lighter side I really luv Twister's ability to impersonate Windows. Very impressive!
I asked last week about 64bit raspberry pi os and had no reaction, now I know why 😋 I broadly agree except I have not evaluated Manjaro, your comments regarding stability in as much it was the trusted distro in a public setting of course now means I need to evaluate it myself!
Helpful video, thank you Chris. I very much like Raspberry Pi OS too. The Bookshelf is an incredible program and is often overlooked. I found it amazing that you get free access to so many great books and magazines!
The Bookshelf in Raspberry Pi OS is indeed amazing. I first recorded including coverage of it. But this video (intended to be 12 minutes) was already way over time.
Kali Linux is a pretty awesome distro with pi and pi zero builds. I've learned alot about networking and cyber security from playing it. Thanks for the great videos.
1) My opinion of Raspberry Pi OS has improved since I learned how to enable and install Themes, Icon Packs, and Cursor Packs. Dark theme, especially, is a must-have for me. Any thoughts on using Firefox on it? I can't bring myself to use chrome. 2) My new obsession is converting chromebooks into real computers. Have you considered tackling this subject?
I would also support a video on (2). I have a Chromebook that will need a new OS in June and I will need to start doing some research soon to see how best to install Linux on it (probably Gallium OS).
I tried twister OS, and was very disappointed that the nifty tweaks and user account setup things ONLY work on the pi user. I am a traditional sysadmin and I insist on people using their own accounts. Manjaro was my best find of the past year on my Pi 400, it is just stable and everything I expect.
Your top two are also my favourites. I have just put Raspberry Pi OS 64bit on my ssd and it is very quick connected to an 8Gb Pi4. Manjaro arm looks after my Pinebook Pro. Both are brilliant .My thanks goes to all of the developers of all the OSs for giving us so much choice.
as someone that uses a Pi 4 as a daily driver for the light stuff like watching videos, browsing the web and using discord. Got to say yeah definitely Majaro is absolutely great in many areas, but Pi OS still takes the cake in the end, even considering some minor bugs that are quite annoying (most of then introduced after the change on the window manager, and some already fixed), the support for the distro and the accelerated video playback sure makes it the best one around (just don't run it over USB, still unstable).
You've been having stability problems with Raspberry pi OS on USB drives? What sort of problems? I have two pi 4s running with SATA SSDs connected via USB and they are both very stable. One's been running for about a year now, it's my NAS and backup server (plus it runs World Community Grid) and it's only been down when I've worked on it (and one power outage). The other is only about a week old, but it looks to be as stable as the first. I have learned that not all SAT to USB cables work well with pis, some won't do USB 3. Perhaps some lead to unstable systems?
Not a bad list. I prefer TwisterOS but I would have placed MX Linux instead of Ubuntu. Just my preference, of course. Just another very informative and entertaining video. My Sunday morning is now complete.
Another informative video, thanks. I do like it that Pi OS comes with very little pre-installed software. I much prefer to install the things I need rather than waste time stripping out stuff I don't want, and possibly messing up dependencies in the process! EndeavourOS also as an ARM version but I don't have a Pi still to try it.
Very informative. Tks. As an aside: I recently started using Freespire OS (Ubuntu with string Google-suit integration) on my Macbook Air13 (Early 2015; 4GB RAM; 128 GB SSD). Works like a charm - and way better than Mac OS!! The people who are developing Freespire tell me that a version for use on Raspberry Pi 4 is in the works.
I was trying to demo the pi for my employer, ubuntu was a mistake, thankfully I had manjaro on another sd card. He was impressed with the size and performance. I'd recommend manjaro. I've used ubuntu, pi os and manjaro. Manjaro seems the best to me. Ubuntu was unreliable on even the 8gb version for the ppi, I ran both hirsute hippo a year or so ago then I ran impish indri for the demo hoping it'd be better, it clearly wasn't.
Being that my Pi's are both very specific use cases(Batocera and OpenMediaVault) these aren't use to me on Pi, but I'm now starting to lean towards Twister OS for on here. Seeing Windows Classic almost brought a tear of joy to my eye.
Hello, not sure about your top choice when you stated that Manjaro came through in a pinch for you and you have also already released a video about the new RPi OS with Bullseye having issues. Have those issues been fixed? What made you tip towards the RPi distro and away from Manjaro????
It was a finely balanced thing. But in the end, the issues with the latest version of Pi OS (or the latest two versions -- Bullseye 32- and 64-bit!) relate mainly to the use of a camera, and accessing the same in Python, which is not something we have support for in all other OS anyway. And Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) does not have any of these issues. So, for me, Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) comes out on top, with the Bullseye editions making it even better in most areas of application. And streaming video playback is better in Raspberry Pi OS regardless. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thank you. Don’t totally agree with your choice but I respect it. Keep up the great work! I have been using the Ubuntu distro mostly.
I don't have a spare Pi, but I am blown away by Twister OS. The theming with Win95-7 is great. It's too bad I don't see a way to realistically have those Windows themes work with dwm. Thank you again for another great, informative video!
Only just noticed that in that music you play at 10:30 there are two annoyingly unrhythmical drumbeats. Now I can't unhear it. Any chance it can be fixed?
Thanks. Just getting started with Raspberry Pi. Downloaded and installed Ubuntu because of its included software package but I'm going to make an image of the Raspberry Pi OS on a separate SD card to play with. Better now than later when I've got hours/days of Ubuntu-defined data loaded.
Still happy with Twister OS myself. Running over clocked at all times, as much as each Pi4 can handle. Samsung BAR 128gb or SSD is the way to go. I have Sandisk Extreme Plus cards 32 and 64gb. They don't test as well with Raspberry Pi Diagnostics, don't seem to be as great with the OSes anymore. Pi4, Twister OS, fans, heatsink, great USB stick or SSD, laser trackball, nice keyboard, good power supply, and I think you'll get the best experience with a Pi4 there is to be had. I usually add OpenArena and OpenShot. 8gb model does 2300/933 all day, 4gb 2275/900 sometimes 925. Load in the games and 8Bitdo controller. Setup the bluetooth on the desktop then click the Retropie icon.
The fact that the 64bit version of Raspbian comes as a bare bones install is what I like most about it ! Having used mostly Windows ,iOS and a bit of android (on my phone ) being able to choose what I want to install and not having features , programmes and apps that I will never use jammed down my throat is so liberating !
Maybe the OS installers should simply have a "recommended software" page, where you can tick what you do and don't want.
So that you can leave it all unticked for "bare bones", if this is your preference, but you can also tick "all" and have all the recommended software installed, if you like your OS to come pre-loaded with stuff.
This seems the logical place to put such a thing, and could cut down on the number of different ISOs. Because I think that, for new users, the vast array of versions and desktops and different bitage is all very confusing and complicated.
Indeed, maybe distros should consider, instead of providing many different versions and desktops and things, provide a single installer that can ask you what desktop and software you want on installation.
Admittedly, it'll make the installer image bigger but, these days, microSD cards and USB sticks are all nice and big for fairly cheap prices. Basically, as time progresses, hardware and storage gets bigger and better, not requiring us to be so concerned to save every last byte anymore.
I think the Raspberry pi foundation got it right with the recommended programs section in the main menu - a few more programs would be nice though .
Operating systems like Windows 8 and later were really bogged down with the app style of interface and a lot of bloatware , if most people took the time to sit down and write down the features and programmes they really need they will soon see that 90% of what is installed is never used . This is done to sell the product as it looks nicer with all these pretty looking but mostly useless things just jumping out at you from the monitor . I will never understand why Windows has sample music , games or pictures - fine create the file / folder but don’t populate it with garbage . With Windows I have to go online to register the product so they could offer a link to a suite of downloads there . The first thing I do with a new iPad or android device is to delete all the apps I won’t use - which is most of them !
@@klaxoncow RPI OS does just this, go to Start > Preferences > recommended software
I've tried a lot of different Pi distros but always ended up back with Raspbian. However since they made USB flash drive booting super simple, if you get one of those USB 3.0 hubs with a switch for each socket it's easy to just power on whichever flash drive you want to boot from and power the others off of course. That makes trying out different OS's very easy compared to juggling SD cards. But more than that, makes it very easy for your Pi to switch between multiple roles quickly. Tip - buy flash drives that are big enough to actually stick a label on ! :)
That's a clever idea. I used to use a multi-port USB hub as a sort of poor-man's NAS, same principle. But never thought of it as a boot selector device!
That’s how I am with almost everything .. it all comes back to Debian for 20+ years as an engineer
very cool thx
The fact that you always ended up back with Raspbian should tell you something. Install the programs that you need on ONE OS so you don't have to reboot to do a simple task.
Tip: Find something you like, learn it well, and stick with it.
For multi-booting from USB try Easy2Boot, you can install .iso files in a directory then select from them when booting; all from a nice simple interface.
a flawless presentation as ever and many thanks to you Chris for doing the research to make the decision easier for us.
Great list. Raspberry OS lite 64-bit is my sweet spot after a couple of tweaks:
- For added security, I add a new user and then delete the default pi user. I found that this turns the raspberry pi OS into a vanilla Debian distro.
- Next, I install XFCE4 as a desktop environment. I add Compton for a tear-free video playback experience as windows compositor manager. I tweak thunar for smb network support including adding gvfs gfvs-backend and gvfs-fuse. Then I install chromium 32-bit with widevine (32-bit) for netflix and disney+. And finally I add VLC, Audacious and libreoffice for a complete desktop experience, plus pi-apps for additional native software support.
- This configuration runs flawlessly in my Raspberry Pi 4 8GB from an SD card, overclocked to 2147, over-voltage to 13, gpu freq to 750, and force_turbo to 1.
Next on my list is manjaro, as is such an eye candy and functionally flawless and full-featured, albeit a bit heavy.
Next are the ubuntu flavours but the pi really struggles here.
And last for me is twister OS mainly due to the lack of multi-user support out-of-the-box.
11:45 little mistake here! The manjaro edition also have xfce and sway (Tilling Window Manager). You may not seen it because of the zoom in the page. Its avaiable in the rpi imager as well. In my testings, the sway and gnome editions failed in reconizing my brazilian keyboard, but aside from that, they re great editions. The manjaro sway did perform similar to the raspbian i3 (novaspirit's channel tutorial). Ive managed to use the raspbian i3 for a month as my main OS with a crappy 8gb sd!
Oh, you are right! My bad. :( My screen scaling indeed hid the other versions you mention.
@@ExplainingComputers I was thinking the same we have many DE latey at Manjaro ARM Project. Thank you for your love.
Amazing video portraying performance of newer Raspberry Pi compatible OSs for 2022.
Pi OS being on top is obviously no surprise at all.
Wish you an amazing week ahead, Chris. :)
Thanks for this. And as you say, no surprise at the top. There are issues, but overall Rasp Pi OS wins out except in specific scenarios.
"I do not want tips on startup... whoever thought that was a good idea"... made me chuckle... I feel the same way.
Software's really mature now on the pi, across several OSes. It's taken a long time, but that's to be expected with Linux. Well played all Devs
Got 3 SD cards mate, manjaro, and raspi os. I think these 3 are the best in my opinion, I tried Ubuntu but so many bugs and crashes, also reboots on it's own sometimes so I decided to use these 3 for now. Great video it's always exciting keep up the amazing work you do. God bless
Grab BerryBoot. You could have all of those on one card and choose which one to boot to and\or install.
@@AndrewGulakhow?
Well-argued, elaborate comparison, thx. Obviously, "best" OS is a question of personal use & taste. After trying several OS, I stick to TwisterOS Lite-faster than the standard edition of TwisterOS and by my experience with a better cpu temperature management than Pi OS (I'm using a Pi 4B w/ 4 GB).
TwisterOS is rpi os.
I run Twister OS and Raspberry Pi OS on a pi 4 8g clocked to 2.2 gigahertz never had any issues with a Argon40 Neo case and of course the fan for said case just take the cover off when you have it running ;)
Thanks Chris for this comparison so we don't have to do this by ourselves. And appreciate your speech pacing and accent as well, which is obviously friendly to the non-native speaker like me - never need the CC in any of your videos, which is great at any time!
Absolutely love all the various distros now offering either official or unofficial releases for the Pi. So many amazing options for a tiny single board system I personally use to hold my development site on and a personal minecraft server.
Perfect timing, I’m setting up a new raspberry pi today. Thanks Chris
Good luck with your new Pi. :)
I agree with you on your list. I switch between Manjaro and Rasp Pi OS 64 bit. Your presentation should aid anyone in choosing a proper OS for their Pi. Thanks!
Great Video again, THANKS !!
I also tried a few distro's on my Pi 400 ....
Now I'm running Pop OS and installed Hypnotix version 1.1 to watch TV stations from around the world and it runs GREAT !!
Nice selection. I've yet to try Twister for myself but have seen quite a number of videos on it and it looks excellent. Manjaro I have used on the Pi 3 and 4 but Pi OS is still my usual OS of choice.
Twister OS is a really really good stable and clever OS. They have really done a nice job with this OS. Manjaro as well.
@@Uniblab8 it's not an OS, it's a mod, a userspace mod. It's like installing rpi os, making some changes, creating a backup and redistribute it. That's twisterOS. It's a custom image.
@@microlinux You're right, actually. In the truest sense, it is a souped-up RPi OS. For me, it's a fun environment for me and it screams on my Pis, plus its kind of fun.
I have tried various distros over the years, mainly on low powered Windows machines but haven't found one that I could really get used to. This list has given me some ideas.
I love these details about each OS. I didn't know about the twister OS. thats fun too. Thanks for the video EC.
Your top 5 is spot on. Only the Raspberry Pi OS, I have found, has the performance and snappiness I would expect.
I have never thought of installing other than Pi OS. It is interesting to see Chris do it.
I use Manjaro XFCE (on RPi4 4GB). Like it's styles and is very stable. Great video, Chris. ;)
TwisterOS is great. I use it all the time.e, though I have this weird feeling that it is a bit clinky, and out of date.
Still is the OS I recommend to people for the Pi, as it makes it easy for people to get on with it.
I wonder if they will do a new, 64-bit version now that Raspberry Pi OS (on which it is based) is now 64-bit. We shall see!
@@ExplainingComputers I hope there is an updated version, especially if it can take advantage of the speed increase.
That is the biggest positive to RPi OS, from what I can see. The speed in CPU is something to consider. Also, the graphical installer is a wonderful idea. I gave up trying to install packages and programs, as I never can work out from the long lists of unhelpful texts, what it was I was looking at, and if it was what I wanted.
If Twister OS was to incorporate those elements into it, then it would be a massive step forwards. At least, to my reckoning.
i like all the opensource os but mostly i like Ubuntu and twister os.. Excellent video sir😄🙏
Thank you for show video playback and dropped frames. Liked!
As always great video! I bought my Raspberry Pi 4B 8Gb yesterday and very happy with it.
I tried to run Metatrader 4 and Metatrader 5 with Box86 and Wine (both installed through Pi Apps) and got no result. I'll give it a try to Twister OS, because it seems it have installed all compatibility utilities by default.
Thanks for the great content, have a good day :D
@@rockapartie I paid around 120 dollars, I bought it with a case, fan, microSD card and a microHDMI adapter.
Great review Chris. I have only run and used Ubuntu desktop and Raspberry Pi OSs on my Pi 4 and 400. I have settled on Raspberry Pi 64 bit for all Pi devices. They are all either 4 or 8 GB RAM machines.
You always have useful, easy-to-understand (English is not my mother tounge) and professional advices. THANK YOU! 🙂
Thanks for the confirmation, I was going to install Raspberry PiOS this afternoon, rainy day in Orlando.
Greetings on another Sunday! It is raining here too.
Really appreciate the in depth video on RPi OSs. I'm going to check out Twister. It looks very useful.
Just managed to order a Pi 400! Excited to try some of these out in the near future 👀
Enjoy your Pi 400. A great machine that will run all of the OS in the video really well. :)
im gonna give twist a try now :) and manjaro :) great video.
Agree entirely with those rankings Chris. I've been running the beta of RP OS 64 for a while, and if you want best performance you really do need to run a 64 bit OS on a 64 bit processor, with a light desktop. One way to cheat on video playback and indeed generally get faster web browser performance is to use something like Puffin browser - essentially a web based web browser whereby the processing is largely done in the cloud. Otherwise 64 bit Chromium does a better job than others IMO.
For me the beauty of a Pi is the very low power consumption. I find that for most general computing needs a Pi4 or 400 copes well enough and runs at
Ooh I might try that Twister version, thanks for the intensive overview Chris.
Fantastic! I really like Twister OSs Nostalgia Engine for Windows Nerds (NEWN) aka 'Themes'. I grew up on Win95, Win98, 2000, XP, Win7, and its great to be able to use a safe, modern OS that mimic the look in feel of those fabled OSs. That being said, thank Mr. Barnatt for yet another great video. Very precise and comprehensive. Its like you teach computers for a living or something. ;D
It's a really fun OS, isn't it? Very functional and clever. They developed this strictly for the Pi so good on them. Look up Leepsvideo on TH-cam. He is also brilliant when it comes to RPi or Twister OS and a bunch of other stuff. Between him and Chris I gets tons of info and ideas for my RPis.
I saw the green grass under the blue sky and immediately expected you to choose 'Twister XP', thank you ;-)
If you're running Manjaro KDE on a RasPi, make sure to set the compositor to use OpenGL. On my Pi it made everything run a bit smoother.
Great video CB! I was just thinking about getting my RPi units back out of storage, after a relocation last year. I'd like to compile Qt6 for the RPi anyway--but now I have some great ideas about which OS to go get. That Twister OS looks very cool, especially with those desktop performance widgets in their standard theme, but as others have said: In the end I always seem to just go with the stock OS from the RPi folks. But your work on making this video saved me a TON of time, so I greatly appreciate you making/posting it!
It's also great to see you closing in on 1M subscribers! It will be a very exciting day for you when that happens, I'm sure--but you definitely deserve it, given the work you do in putting all these presentations together!
Funny, I actually watched your video on TwisterOS the other night and there it is again in this video. I really dig the concept of an idea of a OS that lets you change the appearance of it to make it look more like your favorite Windows OS. Now, if only it had solitaire and that space pinball game on it. ;)
Anyway, cheers on another great video! This'll truly come in handy for those interested in getting a Pi and trying to choose which OS to throw on there. (myself included) :D
Great video Chris. 64 bit Raspian has been working great for me the last week or so. Now to find a way to easily transfer my Docker Containers and Caddy
Superb overview, thanks very much Christopher.
Pretty much perfect rundown......thanks Chris!
TwisterOS is the coolest distro I've seen in a while! Fun!
Thank you.i am very very new to expanding my computer engineering knowledge, and hearing a seasoned veteran vouch for the default rsp os is quite eye opeing! It makes sense though now!
I was wondering which OS I should have it on my Pi4 8Gb, You have answered me through this video. Thanks so much! greate Video!!
Keep finding myself back with Twister OS for my pi 400. I just went through a few of those distros this past weekend and while I liked something about each of them, Twister OS seems to have everything I want right out of the box. I just wish it was 64-bit. If not Twister then I would have to say Pi OS lite with KDE Plasma desktop. Great video.
When Raspberry Pi’s first come to market, who would have thought they would be so popular in 2022, now with so many operating systems that do a decent job there are even more popular. Keep up the good work Chris I enjoy your videos.
Still disappointed that nobody has made game specifically tailored to its hardware.
@@NaeMuckle / Games. Due to the fact the most modern games require very powerful CPU’s and GPU’s will hold back game development , that said there are hundreds of games from other older platforms that can be played on a Pi
Quote off the net:
RetroPie is a software library used to emulate retro video games on the Raspberry Pi computer. It's one of the most popular Raspberry Pi projects out there and the most popular emulation system for the Raspberry Pi. RetroPie features a user-friendly interface and an even friendlier setup process.Sept 15, 2021
@@NewAgeDIY I'm not talking about modern games or emulated games. But emulated android and some pc games run well on pi. A ground up coded game for the pi would run brilliantly. I've been through just about every emulator, made my pi an amiga, put one in an atari case. I still one a purpose made game for the pi the same way amstrad and spectrum games were made for the bare metal.
@@NaeMuckle / your right on all points. That said unless a large game developer is willing to spend the money to design a game from the game up. The only other way is to port a popular game over to the Pi. I would love to see GTA 5 running on a Raspberry Pi.
The next release could have a more powerful CPU /GPU with more memory. That also mean a more expensive board.
Another great video, well done Chris!!! I own a pi3 and a pi4 (8GB model) and tried many distros...finally i settled on MXrpi and Manjaro( kde and xfce versions) . MX works for me better than the raspberry pi os or twister and also runs on the pi3 model pretty well!!! By adding pi_apps lately lots of new software is now available... On the other hand Manjaro Kde looks snapier than xfce...Manjaro versions offer less software, but by adding the AUR from pamac tool things get much better!!! Thank you very much for another great video!!!
I apologize...I keep forgetting to click the like button on your videos...they are all FANTASTIC...I'll try to remember
Thanks every time you remember! :)
@@ExplainingComputers you're very kind to reply!
Thank you so much for this video! I am a Mac user and installed Twister just for fun ( I am new to this Raspberry Pi thing) and I do enjoy Twister, especially the Mac theme. I did discover a nice plus; under the bookshelf app is a very large collection of the MagPi magazine !
Thanks again for all that you do.
I've been using the Manjaro Plasma edition as my daily driver for work (mostly for programming, word processing and web browsing) for over a month and I have to agree that it is surprisingly stable. I was expecting all kinds of problems when first transitioning to a Raspberry Pi as a daily driver but everything works out of the box 99% of the time. I haven't tried the other distros on the list so I can't compare, but Manjaro certainly is a solid choice.
Another excellent video. When I had my Pi 3B it was used solely for gaming, so I only ever ran Retropie. I recently managed to pick up a Pi4 8GB model and have not yet decided on an operating system, so this video helps.
I was really shocked and impressed with Twister and the different theming options like Win XP. Is there a community of theme creators online where you can get more themes than just the ones that install with Twister? Or are those the only ones? 🤞🏻 that there are other themes 🤞🏻 I'm also happy to see that once I get my first Pi I'll have the option to use it as I do Windows rather than having to use Command Lines. I'd rather learn the basics of Pi OS first before jumping into the more "advanced" uses. Great video!
Great video again thank you. I will certainly try out Twister it looked great as “Sur”
Perfect timing!!! I was just noticing all of the new arm distros for the raspberry pi. My pi 4b has been being used as an emulator for older games. Now it looks like I'll be ArchLinux BTWing on my Pi! Stoked I can use all 8 gigs of ram.
I am a Ubuntu Mate user and I am in your position now: my all in one computer is broken and I use a Raspberry Pi 4 witn 4 gb ram as a desktop until the aio comes back from service. In order to take advantage of the 6.2 kernel optimizations I flashed 64 bit ubuntu on a ssd drive via usb adaptor. In that regular ubuntu distro i installed ubuntu mate desktop with all it's programs and lightdm via apt so now i have a up to date ubuntu mate distro with linux kernel 6.2 which runs better on rpi4 than the lts distro available on their site with kernel 5.1 on it.
The best part of the weekend has arrived, and it's an SBC video, which is the cherry on top.
:)
Just downloading the 64 bit Raspberry Pi OS to try it out inside a VM and on a bare metal machine. Thanks very much Chris.
Thanks!
Being a slow convert to Linux on an old Laptop.. and settling on Linux Mint its nice to see theres something that supports the Mate desktop. After playing with a few, thats a nice setup and comfortable to use
Good to know we can avoid disruptions of the space/time continuum.
Besides the technical content, I can always learn an accessory bit of English, too! 🙂
Very timely as I only just got my Pi 4 8GB last weekend! Thanks for this. I've been running Ubuntu desktop and am not happy with it. Very sluggish and does crash. Also had some issues with drivers for my USB mouse/keyboard that required configuration hacks to make it work. One thing I did notice is that Chromium runs better/faster than Firefox on Ubuntu. But overall Ubuntu is unusable as a desktop on Pi 4. Fortunately this is a backup system not my main driver. I'll be switching to either Raspian or Manjaro on the Pi. On the lighter side I really luv Twister's ability to impersonate Windows. Very impressive!
Thanks for another great video Chris. 😎
No problem 👍
I asked last week about 64bit raspberry pi os and had no reaction, now I know why 😋 I broadly agree except I have not evaluated Manjaro, your comments regarding stability in as much it was the trusted distro in a public setting of course now means I need to evaluate it myself!
Sorry not to reply last week! :) I hope that all is well with you.
Helpful video, thank you Chris. I very much like Raspberry Pi OS too. The Bookshelf is an incredible program and is often overlooked. I found it amazing that you get free access to so many great books and magazines!
The Bookshelf in Raspberry Pi OS is indeed amazing. I first recorded including coverage of it. But this video (intended to be 12 minutes) was already way over time.
I don't know enough to compare them because other than Raspian I haven't used them. You have made me decide to try out TwisterOS.
Twister OS is worth a spin just to marvel at all those themes!
Kali Linux is a pretty awesome distro with pi and pi zero builds. I've learned alot about networking and cyber security from playing it. Thanks for the great videos.
Excellent pick 5 selection Chris. Thanks as always m8.
1) My opinion of Raspberry Pi OS has improved since I learned how to enable and install Themes, Icon Packs, and Cursor Packs. Dark theme, especially, is a must-have for me. Any thoughts on using Firefox on it? I can't bring myself to use chrome.
2) My new obsession is converting chromebooks into real computers. Have you considered tackling this subject?
Thanks for this. I had not thought of the Chromebook thing! :) Interesting . . . Note that Rasp Pi OS uses Chromium, not Chrome (by defauly anyway).
I would also support a video on (2). I have a Chromebook that will need a new OS in June and I will need to start doing some research soon to see how best to install Linux on it (probably Gallium OS).
Well done and helpful!👍
Would have loved to see how Pop! OS would have stacked up against these choices!
It was cute when you instinctively double-clicked while in Twister XP at 7:35 😀
I tried twister OS, and was very disappointed that the nifty tweaks and user account setup things ONLY work on the pi user. I am a traditional sysadmin and I insist on people using their own accounts. Manjaro was my best find of the past year on my Pi 400, it is just stable and everything I expect.
That's exactly why I am trying to explain. TwisterOS is a custom rpi os image, not an OS.
Your top two are also my favourites. I have just put Raspberry Pi OS 64bit on my ssd and it is very quick connected to an 8Gb Pi4. Manjaro arm looks after my Pinebook Pro. Both are brilliant .My thanks goes to all of the developers of all the OSs for giving us so much choice.
Greetings sir...my favourite pi os is Dietpi and raspberry Pi os....I am currently using dietpi on my pi zero w....it's solid and working fine.... :)
Great to hear! Here we are again.
as someone that uses a Pi 4 as a daily driver for the light stuff like watching videos, browsing the web and using discord. Got to say yeah definitely Majaro is absolutely great in many areas, but Pi OS still takes the cake in the end, even considering some minor bugs that are quite annoying (most of then introduced after the change on the window manager, and some already fixed), the support for the distro and the accelerated video playback sure makes it the best one around (just don't run it over USB, still unstable).
You've been having stability problems with Raspberry pi OS on USB drives? What sort of problems? I have two pi 4s running with SATA SSDs connected via USB and they are both very stable. One's been running for about a year now, it's my NAS and backup server (plus it runs World Community Grid) and it's only been down when I've worked on it (and one power outage). The other is only about a week old, but it looks to be as stable as the first. I have learned that not all SAT to USB cables work well with pis, some won't do USB 3. Perhaps some lead to unstable systems?
Not a bad list. I prefer TwisterOS but I would have placed MX Linux instead of Ubuntu. Just my preference, of course. Just another very informative and entertaining video. My Sunday morning is now complete.
Another informative video, thanks. I do like it that Pi OS comes with very little pre-installed software. I much prefer to install the things I need rather than waste time stripping out stuff I don't want, and possibly messing up dependencies in the process! EndeavourOS also as an ARM version but I don't have a Pi still to try it.
A very lucid discussion. I value your judgements always. Thanks for this one too.
Very informative. Tks. As an aside: I recently started using Freespire OS (Ubuntu with string Google-suit integration) on my Macbook Air13 (Early 2015; 4GB RAM; 128 GB SSD). Works like a charm - and way better than Mac OS!! The people who are developing Freespire tell me that a version for use on Raspberry Pi 4 is in the works.
I was trying to demo the pi for my employer, ubuntu was a mistake, thankfully I had manjaro on another sd card. He was impressed with the size and performance. I'd recommend manjaro. I've used ubuntu, pi os and manjaro. Manjaro seems the best to me. Ubuntu was unreliable on even the 8gb version for the ppi, I ran both hirsute hippo a year or so ago then I ran impish indri for the demo hoping it'd be better, it clearly wasn't.
Made it for the early drop. Nice, I was looking for a raspi project.
I never tested other distro on my pi400 this is instructive.
On a Pi 400 you have a lot of great options . . . :)
Great update video
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)
Being that my Pi's are both very specific use cases(Batocera and OpenMediaVault) these aren't use to me on Pi, but I'm now starting to lean towards Twister OS for on here. Seeing Windows Classic almost brought a tear of joy to my eye.
Great episode, give us more for the raspberry pi 400!
Hello, not sure about your top choice when you stated that Manjaro came through in a pinch for you and you have also already released a video about the new RPi OS with Bullseye having issues. Have those issues been fixed? What made you tip towards the RPi distro and away from Manjaro????
It was a finely balanced thing. But in the end, the issues with the latest version of Pi OS (or the latest two versions -- Bullseye 32- and 64-bit!) relate mainly to the use of a camera, and accessing the same in Python, which is not something we have support for in all other OS anyway. And Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) does not have any of these issues. So, for me, Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) comes out on top, with the Bullseye editions making it even better in most areas of application. And streaming video playback is better in Raspberry Pi OS regardless. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thank you. Don’t totally agree with your choice but I respect it. Keep up the great work! I have been using the Ubuntu distro mostly.
I don't even have a Raspberry Pi but this is entertaining to watch anyway.
Thanks for watching. :)
I don't have a spare Pi, but I am blown away by Twister OS. The theming with Win95-7 is great. It's too bad I don't see a way to realistically have those Windows themes work with dwm.
Thank you again for another great, informative video!
Chris, this is Joshua Ankney from Yenkna PCs. Could you please do a video on Pi-hole the DNS sinkhole server? Thanks and greetings from the States.
Only just noticed that in that music you play at 10:30 there are two annoyingly unrhythmical drumbeats. Now I can't unhear it.
Any chance it can be fixed?
I'll take a look.
Raspberryos running the Mate Desktop Environment is a personal favourite of mine, relaxing and yet powerful in 64 bits.
Thanks. Just getting started with Raspberry Pi. Downloaded and installed Ubuntu because of its included software package but I'm going to make an image of the Raspberry Pi OS on a separate SD card to play with. Better now than later when I've got hours/days of Ubuntu-defined data loaded.
Good luck with your Pi! :)
Nice about of time for Sunday it's time for Christopher video and later Superbowl. Have a nice day and week
Sounds like your day is sorted. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Sunday you Thursday Vwestlife
Been using Pop Os on the Pi4. love it
As an argentinian I'm grateful for the mate explanation
Still happy with Twister OS myself. Running over clocked at all times, as much as each Pi4 can handle. Samsung BAR 128gb or SSD is the way to go. I have Sandisk Extreme Plus cards 32 and 64gb. They don't test as well with Raspberry Pi Diagnostics, don't seem to be as great with the OSes anymore.
Pi4, Twister OS, fans, heatsink, great USB stick or SSD, laser trackball, nice keyboard, good power supply, and I think you'll get the best experience with a Pi4 there is to be had. I usually add OpenArena and OpenShot. 8gb model does 2300/933 all day, 4gb 2275/900 sometimes 925. Load in the games and 8Bitdo controller. Setup the bluetooth on the desktop then click the Retropie icon.
Good video Chris! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
No problem 👍
@@ExplainingComputers 😎
I am using openSUSE on my Raspberry Pi 4b, it runs pretty good.
Yes I have been experimenting with raspberry pi 64 bit OS this week, very timely!