Raspberry Pi 5 vs N100 PC (featuring Ubuntu 23.10)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- Raspberry Pi 5 and an N100 Mini-ITX PC compared, running Ubuntu 23.10. Can a Pi 5 replace an N100 PC?
Ubuntu 23.10 can be downloaded for the Raspberry Pi 5 here:
ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
The video in which I constructed the N100 Mini-ITX system is here:
• N100 Mini-ITX Silent P...
The video in which I edited the whole video on a Raspberry Pi 5 is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5: Video ...
And the video in which I tested the Pineberry Pi M.2 adapter for the Pi 5 is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5 M.2 Hat...
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Intel vs ARM (the hardware)
04:29 Mantic Minatour (Ubuntu 23.10)
08:09 CPU Performance
10:23 Video Render
12:34 TH-cam
13:45 Wrap
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So happy seeing your video in my timeline now. I've been looking at the N100 for a while.
I was one of the viewers who asked Chris why he hadn't used a Pi5:instead of the N100... it's great to see this video!! They came out so close in the end. I replaced my MythTV box with a RPi5 and after sorting through some difficulties it's settled down well and now saving a lot of power. The RPi 5 is a great little SBC. The only criticisms I have of it are how they've relied on Wayland for speed when many Linux distro apps are still very much xserver based.
X is still there. One simple config switch and it will use x.
But it’s good to move with the times.
I saw the title of the video and I jumped right on it. Great topic!
I haven't watched it yet but I'm sure it will be yet another great video.
You always seem to come out with the perfect video at the perfect time to help me make up my mind on a budget. Thanks Again!
Thank you, too, for the physical side-by-side comparison.
It is crazy to think that both the N100 and the Pi 5 are in a similar class to some older quad core chips like the Ryzen 2200G or intel's quad core ivy bridge chips like the popular i7 3770, whilst both drawing extremely low power. We have come a long way
I am reading this running an old i7-3770K. The TDP is "only" 77W on the CPU but with a poorly ventilated case the fans spin upp to 80% as soon as I do anything remotely taxing and the core temps runs over 100C pretty easily. CPU tech has come a long way in ten years but I should probably also move my motherboard into another case I have sitting here, and put on some new thermal paste while doing so :)
AMD had 3000G Athlon CPUs with a TDP of 35W they were great for HTPCs with their onboard Radeon Vega 3 graphics and could play 4K videos. A pity they stopped making that line
dude they are in noway near the same class, maybe if you want to claim that based purely on core count. im no engineer but even the pi4 struggles performance wise to tons of stuff the "same class" 3770 has no problem running. doubling the pi4 performance still doesnt bring it close to the 3770
@@dtmt502for 45W and much cheaper used you can get an i7-3770T which performs like a 3770 and fits in the same motherboards so some ewaste Dell, HP or Lenovo will gladly take them.
The N100 often outperforms the low wattage 6th-10th gen Core CPUs. It's crazy that a Raspberry Pi 5 consequently approaches them too.
Thank you Chris, good information, as we've come to expect from you.
I did notice that many of the mini PCs on A'zon have reviews where users suspect they came with a pirated version of windows that cease to function after a short time. Something to note if one isn't going to install their own OS.
My pi 5 arrived this week! Exciting times...
A whole heap of interesting as always!! Great video Mr. Barnatt!! Keep up the great work!
Tom's Hardware Guide picked you up!! Congrats!
I am very surprised that the Pi5 held up so well.
I make music so, I would pay the extra $$ for connectivity and compatibility.
I am impressed with YOUR performance, CHRIS !
Thanks, I'd not seen this. For others: www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-5-squares-off-against-a-scrawny-intel-cpu
Every time there is another Raspberry Pi revision the gap relative to similar kinds of products gets closer. Great to see!
Ant the power usage goes up...
Your videos are always clear and precise to the point. More like undergoing a certified course. While my age group friends are using (at the max)excel sheets, through yours and others valuable videos I can understand & use SBC for streaming and work on chrome OS etc. Thanks for your efforts.
You are incredible in the way you present the information, break it down and explain every step of what and why you are doing it. Great work and I just started subscribing after seeing your work over at least the last year. Thank you and keep on doing what you do!
Delightful video! Your production efforts and abilities are stellar! I'm not in the market for a tiny PC but I watched the whole thing because it was interesting to see this comparison of current low-power computing offerings.
Thanks Chris!
Hi Chris, thank you for the RPi5 vs N100. Really interesting results showing both have their pro's and con's. Depending of the usage, they are both interesting.
Surprising results. Enjoyed the video. Looking forward to your next video!
Very interesting, i didn't expect that the results would be so close.
Lovely jubbly, Chris! 👍❤
Both systems are wonderful; indeed it's an incredible time to be alive for computing wonders! Happy Sunday!
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Wow. Been waiting for this for ages. Pi5 vs N100 and also Ubuntu 23.10 (which now has full disk encryption using TPM)
Just finished watching it. Thanks!
Shame no test done on games - but I guess that's not the point of the video. The Iris gfx on the N100 would destroy the Pi5. Plus the N100 supports AV1 HW decoding - the Pi does not.
Apparently "Minisforum" is going to release a N100 based Pocket Mini PC in similar form-factor to Pi, and going to be priced under $100.
It's name is "S100-N100 Super Mini PC" and was showcased in CES 2024 and is suppose to launch in a few months.
Though the negative might be that it has soldered LPDDR5 memory and UFS 2.1 storage.
I can live with LPDDR on an SBC but the UFS storage is a real dealbreaker.
Another great video. The Pi did very well, but if I had to choose I would go for your N100. I particularly like the extra connectivity afforded by the VGA connector and the serial port. Weird, I know, but that’s me!
the VGA connector? Do you still use a floppy drive 1,44 mb? ;)
@@ldkbudda4176 😀 I haven’t used one in a while, but I still have a USB one in my laptop bag, just in case. It’s a relic from my days as a field service tech.
It even has a PS/2 connector so it can be used with a Model M
Having an actual serial port that's properly configured is amazing when you want to run a a system without a monitor. I've got a couple of home servers and some network equipment with serial on them, and they've spoiled me. When they fail, I can get into them fairly easily to fix them. When the stuff without serial stops responding, it's no fun at all. :P
VGA is so flexible. You don't just get VGA, but with a cheap adapter, you also have HDMI and whaever else you need.
I'd pick depending on whether I needed GPIO or not. A PC is better if you don't need GPIO. The difference in power consumption is pretty minimal. I mean sure the PC uses twice as much but both use very little. Even with expensive power it's under $100 a year if you run either one 24x7.
Had been waiting since your recommending this a week or so ago.
The more of these videos I see, the more I think it's like watching motorbike reviews.
Some people want everything in the world for the price of a budget machine, and some can accept the "horses for courses" way of thinking.
I would say that this horse - the Raspberry Pi - would run nicely on my course, as it were, if I had to buy a cheap replacement for my 2011 macbook pro which runs Mint 21 XFCE and is used as a simple Internet computer and for making documents for work.
Thanks a lot.
That was a lot closer than I expected. The Pi 5 held up really well compared to the N100.
Well, if you dig deeper, the diff is far wider.
The difference is huge actually. Those Intel chips are disrupting Pi. Might be the only market for them left after ARM chips eat their lunch in the desktop as well lol
@@ShaferHartARM will never eat the true x86 market until they got the software translation software right. Most software runs the world is on x86. Unless someone actively, aggressively make that translation. But if that's the case, why not RISC V?
@@iokwong1871 There is Box86 and Box64 to translate x86 to ARM. The author is even working on translating to RISC-V, but it still has to catch up with the ARM versions.
@@LivingLinux Those are user space emulation. Which makes things work but poorly performance wise. You would need something like what Apple did for their ARM base CPU. So that tells as two things A.) This is possible, and is quite good for the transition. B.) Given all the branches mark and everything, ARM aren't that much better performance wise compared to x86. But might help on the energy consumption front.
I mean I guess no one will buy next gen ARM base systems so they can have the performance of yesteryears x86 base systems.
Thanks Chris for this very interesting and practical review. I disregarded RP for servers as they were unavailable, SD cards didn’t have the reliability of a NVME SSD, power supply was very critical and cooling was an issue, so I chose a N100 box. However, you have shown that RP still have something to say
Fantastic video as always
Great idea to compare the two
Thanks for sharing your expirences with all of us 🙂
Very interesting. I would still go for an N100, which can be had at a price closer to a complete Pi set-up but it did OK for the tasks shown. Would have been interesting to have thrown in an RK3588 for comparison too.
Please never change, I love your videos.
Great video! You can tinker a little in the Bios to get lower idle power usage out of the N100.
I am impressed the Pi5 was quite close.
Pi5 is not close
@@Monerev BIOS load time and boot time is irrelevant. How often do you boot your system, if used for server purposes?
@@m.keller3226Yes, anything less than 48 hours is acceptable.
Another great video! I really appreciate the hard work you do to provide clear and accurate testing and information.
Thank you!
I'm typing this on an RPi 5. I absolutely love it. As an upgrade from the 4 it is great. I have quite a few other Pis and it is already convenient that I can plug cameras and other devices from one into the other and compile the same code without issues on all of them. I have a fairly powerful desktop so I'm not trying to use the Pi for everything. It's primarily my daughter's computer. Witha really nice keyboard and a decent monitor it is a joy to use.
This was such a cool review, thank-you, included all the important things like power consumption! I'm upgrading my NAS/media server on ubuntu and am quite excited about the new N100 platform. I'm sure at some point my curiosity is going to draw me to a pi at some point! Also, yes, I found you from Tom's, although I'm already a fan!
Great comparison! Just for the fun of it I tried some of the tests you performed on my 2017 MacBook Pro that I run Linux on with a Gnome desktop, and which should have a similar enough environment to stock Ubuntu for the purpose of these tests. Curiously while the lava test in gimp finished in about 3 seconds similar to your mini PC, the sysbench with the same parameters performed significantly worse clocking in at about 5.5 seconds. This shows me that a synthetic test can't always reflect real life performance and it can even swing both ways if we compare my laptop to what you measured on the Raspberry Pi 5.
Add my thanks for producing this comparison. It was very well done. I too was surprised by how close the Pi 5 was to N100. Connectivity remains a weak point for the Pi family and this is only the second Pi that has a proper storage interface. (CM4 could support a PCIe 1.0 x1 NVME SSD.) I can see SATA cables in your build and and the Pi 5 can support either NVME or SATA via PCIe but not both at the same time. To date I have not seen any adapters for the Pi 5 PCIe connector that support either SATA or a standard NVME slot, though I expect that will come.
I was always fascinated with the idea of using a Raspberry Pi as a desktop machine ever since I got my first Pi 3 for Christmas as a kid. As the years go by, it's amazing to see the gap close further between standard desktops and these single board computers!
I remember having to use my Raspberry Pi 4 as my main machine last year after the GPU in my desktop died, and it was a surprisingly pleasant experience! Web browsing, document writing, video watching, even a little bit of Java Minecraft (Albeit with a slight overclock and on older versions lol), I could almost replace my main machine with it. Very excited to see the progress these little machines have made!
I've been waiting for this video! I started souring a bit on the pi during the pandemic when the RPi foundation started prioritizing commercial customers over the makers and tinkers who brought the boards to popularity. That pushed me to thin clients and mini pcs, and I'm not sure I'll ever go back.
The Pi5 is a great device, but I started migrating to the n100s a few months ago instead of a pi4 and the performance has been amazing. There are a million ways to do GPIO, so the pi advantage is almost always gone. About the only time I see myself using a pi is for some pre-built image that expects it.
There was a period a couple of years ago where I had to use a 4gb Raspberry Pi 4 as my only computer because my main laptop was being repaired and that took a long time. Granted, I was only doing web browsing and TH-cam playback, but it still shows how capable a Raspberry PI is. The fact that you can now edit video almost flawlessly on an £80 computer with proxy clips just goes to show how far low-cost ARM computing has developed over the past few years.
Worst thing that can happen to people like you is having experienced proper PC. Sorry but what you wrote is more in lieu of misinformation, most people will be crazy to even try having this cheapo boards as a main computer, current best performing RPI is having less performance in basic tasks then 10 year old PC with cheapest currently available ssd in it.
@@OskarHerschI'd rather try it on a pi 4 or 400 than I would a zero 1 or 2.
@@maxxdahl6062 exactly, stockholm syndrome or bad faith marketing.
@@OskarHersch I wouldn't ever consider it a "main" machine but it can be a life saver in "in a pinch" emergency situations.
@@OskarHersch I do prefer the PI electricity bills, though I generally agree with you. The PI4 couldn't quite cut it for me as a desktop but this review of the PI5 was encouraging.
A very nice comparison! I still think you made the right choice to build your N100 PC though, given the greater versatility of an x86 PC running Linux. And, having also experienced tinnitus myself for the last year or so, I'm a "fan" of your N100 PC's fanless design, though my tinnitus seems to be a bit different from yours.
However I think it's quite possible that, given a few more years' time, more of us may chose to use an ARM based SBC for our daily work.
Thank you, i always wondered how the PI5 would compare to a N100!
The results were much closer than expected, both would be useable for general computing tasks. The N100 though slightly more expensive offers a performance improvement that makes the value vs. performance factor about equal. Thank you again for an interesting and informative video.
Not only is this good for education and learning, but its all coming from a techy-guy or whatever you want to call it perspective, its also entertaining, i could watch your videos and not get bored! And on top of that, you reply and keep in touch and up to date with your community, this feels like home. Do not change, thank you for everything!
Thanks for watching. :)
Very good. Astonishingly close
That was a well done video. He did a great job editing that I thought.
Would have liked to have seen a more stressful video playback scenario. I think your standard testing is fine for chips that really need to stretch their legs to get 1080x30 playback or for testing for general video drivers on SBCs, but something like the Pi 5 and N100 is already known to be able to do 1080p at 30. I wonder if there would have been more of a performance differential if the playback was 60 framer per second, or even 4k. Great video as always.
Thank you for another amazing video. It so happens I'm looking for a faster than rPI3 home nas and I was wondering about rPI5 or N100 based PC and this video is enough to make a good impression of both systems.
Its great to see a more objective Raspberry Pi review.
Thank you Chris! Loved the comparisons.....
While the N100 is more than capable, the Pi has a special place in my heart as it's UK made (in Wales, like the Dragon 32), and ARM has a connection to the Acorn days.
Its assembled in Wales which isn't a complex task. All the components its assembled from are made in China.
@@backgammonbacon I know, and that doesn't detract...
Thanks for your support. :)
The Pis brought me back to Linux in general (was there already years ago) that helps in my work life. So it has a special place here too. Will always buy the newest one they bring out just to give them my support. I also used a few other SBCs in the meantime (Odroid, Pine, Orange), but the Pi will always be number one, even others might be better in some regards. The Pi 5 is a nice update. I think they should give the GPU part a bit more oomph in the next iteration to make it perfect.
@@RoboNuggie Unfortunately Britain has become a place where we make very little and merely put together parts from other countries.
Another reason to choose N100 over rpi5 is the software compatibility. x86 systems are more compatable and the optimizations are often better. Hardware encoding on x86 systems are also better, and I do need that for real-time transcoding with jellyfin.
I had my N100 mini-PC as a server for 2 months already. It has been running fine without hiccups, unlike the rpi4 it replaced, which sometimes have trouble rebooting.
Also, it might be cheaper depending on the availability. My N100 server cost about the same as the rpi5 with a SSD anyway.
I just bought the NanoPC T6 8GB 64GB to only run that one camera, I read most of the stuff downloading 141GB, and I think you use Debian, but it says' Ubuntu in such and such a way, because their machine must look or make it easier. So, it was true, it was the only RK3588 with native MIPI & SSD, and has (oldy) throw back from olden times.
not to mention u can throw 32gb ram on the n100
stuck with 8 on pi
@@SHERMA.Pi 5 costing as much as great mini PCs is crazy
I was expecting laughable results, but that RPi 5 sure showed me! I'm impressed!
My N100-DC build runs Proxmox with two OpenMediaVault VMs (both were in different servers), a Linux Lite VM, a Linux Mint (XFCE) VM, and a Peppermint OS VM. CPU averages at around 25% when VMs are idle with background tasks. I have a dual SFP+ NIC and PCI-e to multiple SATA adapter. 2 WD Red hard drives and 3 Seagate Exos hard drives. Only 1 NVMe (for VMs) and 2 2.5" SSDs. My N100 motherboard uses desktop power supplies, so I'm able to have that many storage drives (Corsair Gold Plus PSU -- I think the RM 550 MX?).
My server runs at about 55 watts on average! Love the N100. Windows VMs run terrible, though.
Thanks Professor! For me I just like the SBC RPIs 3, 4, & 5.
"But, that's it!"
I'm impressed with how well the Pi 5 did to keep up!
My favorite sort of EC video.
Thanks for another great video Chris.
Greetings Steve.
Thanks for a great comparison video. First from the top view I thought the N100 PC was a shuttle PC and it seem similar. I got a couple of Pi 4 a few years ago to play around with. I do want to get a Pi 5 from Amazon but seem that it is still selling at a premium from MSRP. Probably won't be able to replace my desktop but would be able to play great on retro games.
Yhis is the exact comparison i am looking for. Thank you
Fascinating and insightful as ever :)
I'd make one note however, in the boot test into ubuntu, it's worth considering the BIOS POST time, by the actual first console message on screen from the linux boot, it looked like the N100 didn't actually start to "boot" - i.e. run the disk os mbr init vector - until about 4 seconds later (about 16sec) than the Pi (at 12 sec) - so part of the boot is that the N100 has a more substantial power on sequence, rather than the operating system/hardware per se being slower to boot.. of course, it's valid when comparing actual "waiting time" to boot, but it's not from that output, necessarily a valid timing of the o/s boot speed, but the nature of the larger POST sequence [and arguably slower switching circuitry in the physical power input differences] ... as I say, not a complaint of your process, but something to consider when comparing.
edit to add : it's probably worth turning of the fancy modern bios splash screens and let both machines POST with their output, like in them olden days watching all the memory get checked :)
Hey Chris! I like the side by side comparisons. It gives one something valid to consider before buying new computing hardware. Two other things come to mind when comparing these two systems: availability and to a smaller degree, temperature. I have only been able to purchase a 4G PI 5 in the last two weeks. As soon as they are in stock somewhere (US), they are sold out. Whereas with the N100 family, they are all over the place. In any event, I would probably opt for the N100, as it will also run easily Windows, allowing me more options for operating systems. Even with proper heat sinks, I know the PI's tend to run warmer with more intense computing, but what about the N100's? It would be interesting to see. Just as an aside, today on Amazon I found a GMKtec branded N100 Mini PC with 8G DDR4, 256 M.2 SSD, and Windows 11 Pro for $159! That includes a nice mini case and power supply. I'm sure I could also easily setup a Linux distro on it. Hard to beat. Anyway, thanks for another great video Chris.
On Amazon now, GMTek N97 with 12gb DDR5 and 512gb SSD for $165 usd.
Thanks Chris for a very informative video on X-86 and ARM competitors! I am planning on getting a Raspberry Pi V to replace the Raspberry Pi IV in my RasPad 3! However, your Intel setup looks very tempting…😮!
I would have set the Intel system on top of the V to show how it can crush the Pi…that’s why you better do the SBC reviews…😂!
Have a great week!
Great video Chris. I wonder if they'll introduce hardware encoding in the next Pi iteration they seem to be slowly shifting towards a more desktop like system.
I wonder too! :) They argued at the time release that it did not matter, and the encoding could just take place on a CPU core. And as I showed in another video, it is possible to use a Pi for 1080p video calling.
Didn't they have hardware encoding on the Pi3 and Pi4? I think they removed it for the Pi5. Big reason Jellyfin strongly recommends you don't use the Pi5 period. I doubt they will bring hardware encoding back after dumping it for the 5
been messing around with Manjaro on my pi400, guess that's why this one was suggested. it's working surprisingly well. These ARM devices are real treasures.
Thanks to your N100 review I bought one to make a Proxmox server. I'm using the ASUS conventional power connector version with a pico psu as it comes with a couple of pcie slots (and I had pico psu and old laptop psu laying around). Really happy with the choice as I could put 32GB of RAM in it.
It's interesting to see how close the PI5 is but the RAM and IO limitations of it would have ruled it out for my purposes. I have 32 Gigs of RAM and 3 network cards. All thanks to your n100 review - thanks. I'm now looking to get my PI4s running as clients to the HomeAssistant running on the proxmox server. The proxmox server also runs OpenWRT, Pi Hole and a NAS
Keep it up!
What's the model on the ASUS board you're using? I only found models with a single PCIe slot.
@@sinisterpisces Ahh. My bad. ASRock MB Intel N100M. Bought it from amazon
This was a very interesting video (as usual!). Thank you, Chris. Whilst I'm someone that is very interested in the idea of running an RPi as a desktop daily driver (I use a Pi 3B+ for a home server and also have a Pi 4 I use from time to time), I draw the opposite conclusion of most here in that it seems to me RPi still have quite some way to go before they develop an SBC that can be a true general-purpose daily driver - and that's despite the undeniably significant performance increases of the Pi 5. For me, the IO isn't so much of an issue (you can hook up two monitors to the Pi 5 and ignoring the two USB 2 ports for the usual peripherals, you still have two USB 3 ports for memory sticks, external SSDs, cameras, USB headset, etc. - though the loss of the 3.5 mm audio jack is regrettable). Instead, it strikes me that despite the minimal performance differences in some select tests, the CPU/GPU of the Pi 5 just isn't quite enough. For example, the GIMP effect render took 168% longer on the Pi 5 than the N100 and the Kdenlive video render was 56% longer. But the biggest eye opener was that the Pi 5 still drops some frames on a 1080p YT video. One wonders how that would scale for general-purpose home office use. For example, say you're writing a document in LO Writer (which is open in the background). You have Firefox running in the background with several tabs open with sites you're consulting (a Wikipedia article, a few news articles and a forum). Also running in the background is Chromium with a couple of tabs for YT videos paused. A PDF reader is also running in the background with a 200-odd page document open you're dipping in and out of. You're in the middle of editing a photo to insert into your document, so GIMP is open with a typical DSLR JPEG. Finally, Thunderbird is running in the background as you want to keep an eye on your e-mail. I'm not convinced the experience on the Pi 5 would anywhere near as smooth or as comfortable as the N100. Would it even be usable on the Pi 5, particularly after a few hours?
(I appreciate that the more immediate issue may be RAM, but at least the N100 could be upgraded to a 16GB stick).
I had picked up a pi4 8gb to use for a lite server/pihole (without much research) but decided to test how it would perform for just watching videos near my workbench. and I was very disappointed to learn it really could not keep up with 1080p streams at all (even hardwired with gigabit) cooled as the browser as only thing running on the system. I was considering getting a pi5 for this purpose instead and having the 4 as just the fileserver/pihole, but this video has convinced me otherwise. I already have a 16 gb stick of ram I could use, and the n100 seems much more capable for basically the same price (and much more availibility).
Always enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
This video was perfectly done, thank you.
That was a pretty interesting video. Thank you!
Greetings.
That test proved once again how well the Raspberry Pi stacks up to the Intel-based systems.
Waiting for that Million. Thanks pc man.
Evening coffee with excellent Explaining Computers video. Greetings from Poland.
Greetings!
Just what I was needing today.
This was an informative video as always. I wish you compared the prices.
A bit late but yeah I love raspberry pi videos I love how much you explain very well computers etc
excellent as always, Chris
Q:What videos exist that could guide me to some trickery to making Pi5 have more connectivity? Even to the daft extent of having a 2 x Pi box?
Thanks so much for this good work. Very interesting.
Thank you Chris. I was particularly interested in the video rendering test. Some questions. What was the output codec? h,264? Did the n100 make use of Quicksync in the test, I am assuming yes from your comments. Did the Pi5 use hardware video encoding via V4L2M2M? You said the Pi5 doesn’t have video hardware support but this forgets V4L2M2M doesn’t it?
Nice to know Christopher!!! Thank you and Happy New Year!!! By the way, what brand is the case of your N100, is it still available?
Nice comparison. Thank you!
I remember back in the day going to PC World and telling the guy I just needed a small desktop to check my emails and maybe write the odd letter.
He immediately took me to the £2000+ PCs and said "Well, these will work but you might need more memory.."
I've been looking for an N300 mini-itx for home lab. It's good to see some N100s out there. It's another one I haven't had luck finding
Thanks a lot Christopher. I appreciate when there is only Linux on the videos.
Nice comparison Chris, Do you know of a case that's sold for the Pi 5 setup you tested?
Great show, Professor! Thank you...🇺🇸 👍☕
Hi Chris. Pretty good results from the Pi. Was not expecting the performance difference to be that low in everyday tasks.
Are you planning a video testing the Pi running Windows at all as I'd love to see how the little Pi 5 deals with such a heavy OS.
Consider 'neofetch' for displaying specs, it's more thorough than the settings screen, yet more succinct than lscpu. It should be available in the Ubuntu repo.
I use a mini N100 system maxed out with 16gb ddr4 as a non gaming daily driver. It's impressive for what it is.
Nice comparison. I'm expecting my Pi5 any day now at which time I will set it up as a daily driver for a bit and see how that all works out. Given what you've shown in this video I don't think I will be disappointed.
I imagine you will really like the Pi 5. It has a fluidity in use (Pi OS or Ubuntu) that is hard to get across in a video.
I would like if you changed your N100 Daily Driver to Windows 10 or 11 since I am not the biggest Linux fan, my PC and laptop run on Windows 11 since it's just simple compared to Linux since in Windows you rarely need to use command promt exept fixxing some internet issues.@@ExplainingComputers
@@thenetheriteminecart384 Why does it matter to you what OS Chris uses?
It's it annoys me when someone uses Linux on a PC that should be able to run Windows 10 or 11 just fine and I like Windows since it's so easy to use.@@deanstyles2567
Woah, that small PC looks like a thing that I actually looking for whenever I want to use other than Mac. I never heard about that kind of case.
I am pleasantly surprise by the Pi5, especially since I just ordered one!. I think one consideration is ease of use I would suggest that the Pi5 likely has better support, better drivers, better community.
Good info. I was using a 4gb pi 4 as a mini PC for a while until the Pi 5 came out and I snagged an 8gb model. It's been great as a general use/media player/ emulation box. Tempted by some of these mini PC setups to run some old games but the Pi 5 with an SSD has been fine for most things.
Great video, thank you, Sir!
Awesome video.
I would love a similar video but between AMD 7000 or 8000 mobile chips used in minipcs and apple M3.
Thanks, interesting episode. Watching thru my Mac mini M2 pro. 👍👍
Nice 👍
Good viedeo as usual
Nice comparison. Thanks. I quite like my setup with a Pi 4 or 5 set up next to my usual pc. I use the Pi for python programming and it's a handy place to test out programs before committing them to the main pc. I appreciate the low power requirement in this set up, it doesn't feel as wasteful as having two pcs running. It helps keep all dev work in one place. Also the Pi is much easier too set up for python. Python on windows can be a pain esp if your GIS (my main work) uses a different version of python. I was pleasantly surprised at the Pi's performance running portion programs and also running QGIS aswell. Another bonus is ease of maintenance (just keep a spare micro ssd), windows, for me, is just getting more and more difficult to maintain, resource hungry and expensive. After many issues recently on laptops and desktops I've got tired of the whole windows cycle and am experimenting with migrating to linux as a main OS. I'll give Ubuntu a shot now, thanks for the idea - I was using zorin on the pc (Very nicely finished OS) but the are a few things that don't quite suit a development environment or the way that i work. Cheers for the vid.
Professional video with fun,will you compare the Intel i3-N305 which is more powerful than N100?
Cool video. I’ve been covering a similar topic however I used the youyeetoox1 sbc which is 99-109 in price and has similar specs. Also something to consider is the x86 compatibility. We r getting better performance on a board not as strong as the raspi 5 and orange pi5 but in most cases it performs better with emulation because emulators are native to x86 and better driver support
I get the impression that the tide is turning on ARM boards for some applications.
Its nice to see that both can be a pretty functional desktop system. In my mind the real advantage of a pi isn't general desktop use but control some hardware with the built in io. You could do the same with an N100 but it would need additional hardware. I really like the pi zero as it has the I/O is even smaller, lower power, and only $15! The pi zero is a terrible desktop, but it can be a great server/embedded device if it is fast enough for your use case. The trick is that it is still really hard to get a Pi Zero 2W although you can get the older pi zero w for the same $15.
A very pertinent comparison of two computer systems; thank you for this presentation! I have the impression that with its fifth version, the Raspberry Pi has reached a new plateau in terms of performance and connectivity. Of course, it will always be relevant to check whether this little gizmo can really be used as a basic computer, and it clearly can! (I was recently following the experience of a hospital centre in West Africa where medical records are managed exclusively on Pi400s. Efficient, portable, energy-efficient and very affordable. What more could you ask for!) But we should also point out that for the great tinkerers out there, each new iteration of RPi opens up new avenues that very few SCBs allow you to explore. In short, thank you again for this highly instructive video.
How were the medical records stored? Hopefully not on the boot SD cards!
@@wereoctopus Well observed! The RPi400s are networked and there's a NAS in the clinic... I'll let you guess what it runs on!
Great video, thank you!
Very good comparison
Wow, good comparision. I just got two n100 system. One is less than 10x10x5 cm with 3 hdmi, 2 lan, 3 usb3 with 16GB lpddr5 and 512GB m.2 sata for 110 usd: "t8 plus". The other one is "router" machine with an 1kg passive metal case, 4x i226v lan, 2 hdmi, gpio, 4 usb2, 2 usb3, 2 serial, m.2, minipcie, m.2 wifi slots - barbone for 126 usd (and I added 16GB ddr5 sodimm and an m.2 nvme drive). Plus sales tax.
They are running great.
Hi chris, thanks for the video the pi5 did rather well.