I read "The Flight of the Eagle" in 1979 and it changed my life and saved my sanity or what there was of it. Krishnamurti was Enlightened and helped me tremendously with His Truth. Mary Lutyens wrote about K's process in "Years of Awakening"❤🌟❤
His wisdom is so incredible that is not limited to psychological but beyond the all boundries of thought process. Sometime i go deep with his wisdom and find the life in very basic things.
One point He missed is: There are actually people who live so free of fear, of false hope, of any conflict. They wake up every morning and just GO!!!! Full speed ahead, living their dream passionately. I definitely envy a person like that. I think They are truly SANE! (i . e., I'm not 😳🙄😬)
I‘m still searching for the inner state of mind freedom and radical change you‘re talking of. I see myself always captured in another trap, another prison, another pattern. Love without motive #hereandnow 💕🫶🏾 like #ramdass says: it’s not about being high but being free 🆓 Thank you for sharing this content from #krisnaji.
Radical change often necessitates a significant (life-altering) event such as a terminal disease diagnosis (e.g. cancer), repeated visions and dreams that depict our lives as drastically different, genuine enlightenment (however that may appear to each of us), and even a near-death experience - something that awakens us from a perhaps decades-long trance or sleep; something that reveals to us what our true life purpose is (rather than what it may have been conditioned to be).
Yes! Meeting these events with the full force of one's being is when the environment exists for remembering. It might be an existential event for you or a loved one. There may be no path. Some there is _escape_ for others there is _seeing_ and some become _destroyed._
Gift Of Desperation. I came upon this similarly because I was at a point in my life where I knew that if I continued on the way I was going that things were not going to end well for me. You have to have a breakdown before you can have a breakthrough.
"Very few human beings change radically." Maybe there's a good reason for. Who knows. In the meantime, the World/Universe is perfect at any moment in time.
The point touched here is the soul of all his talks. The moment ones own mind understands and then acknowledge this truth and finally see it in it's own movement in day to day life. He can truly set itself free from all movements which is nothing but a constant formation from illusion to other and still act skillfully and do all acts required in the physical world. As now the source behind all illusornary assumptions and problem itself is aware of its own creation and realizing same finally stops doing so...
Eğer düşüncenin başlangıcına bakarsanız. Önce duyularla algılama var. Mesela gözle baktığımız şeyler var. Sonra bu bakışa düşünce sözlü olarak müdahâle ediyor. Sonra imge, sonra da duygu oluşuyor. Düşüncenin bu işleyişinin çocukken ana dili öğrenme aşamasında gelen bir alışkanlık olabileceğini fark ettim. Çocuğa şeylerin adını öğretirken mesela, anne, baba, ağaç gibi. Çocuğun duyularla algılamasına müdahale ediyoruz. Çocuk, düşüncenin alanına giriyor ve arşivde yaşamaya başlıyor. Kelimelerin olmadığı bir ilişki gerçekten var.
Biologically, we do what we do. Cognitively or psychologically, I've been trying to work out the remaining mysteries OF the biology that causes so many such existential anxiety. We're too busy selling drugs to solve the problems for real. The meaning of life for me has become to review human knowledge and try to fix the sloppy patches that pass for understanding. I get silence or ridicule for being right. We're too busy paying people to repeat dogma.
I wonder if, when we complain that the human world is a mess, we are also willing to see that we are part of that mess. Or are we so self-absorbed to think that we are outside of it?
Yes, just by complaining about how the mess impacts us (as well as perhaps others) we have effectively separated ourselves from it and further believe that the world's problems are unequivocally someone else's responsibility to fix (usually our so-called "leaders").
It depends on how sensitive you are to your subconscious mental processed. You might acknowledge the fact and naturally our undeniable role, or you might just be saying to feel better about yourself.
@@theuofs Exploring our own mess is indeed the primary responsibility. But most of us are not interested in this responsibility, and most of those who claim the are interested, do inquire only intellectually about this subject.
@@ismailaskhatir6708 I wonder what we mean by ``subconscious``? Is there such a thing as a ``subconscious mind``, or somebody, someone like Freud or other clever inventors have implied it and we accepted it as a belief? It seems to me that what we call subconscious is simply what we don`t think about or don`t want to think about.
I'm always perturbed by structural flaws that allow the world to not work as it should. But I don't participate in this society to the extent that I can. The US in 2024 is a failing kleptocracy in which people will do and say anything to get by. I hate money and try not to use it if possible.
All my dear sir we all respect you know that you're fighting the one thing we can never really change in US basically no good when I got older I actually a cousin of mine show me your podcast I said if I would have had this in 1970 imagine I didn't know about him I would have had a cassette or something that would have saw my problems of learning I knew how to make things but I had no social ability of any kind know I wasn't around people that were good to learn I didn't want to learn because you know what it didn't interest me the people who were teaching you learn from this man you hear his podcast talking he's talking about you find out yourself you don't believe it you find out and you'll see that you understand hey you know what is and what isn't your bombard is his little with what fear over and over fear all the time I dealt with this fear all my life but you learn from him what makes you smart I became smart within 5 years I became socially smart
Now human life is so complicated you should keep on searching for survival until your death as old family system collapsed Before 100 years ago No one thought about retirement fund as they were sure kids will take care of elders No divorce was there Only people living in stable supporting family can think of philosophy social services spirituality etc
He is right, just some new words to his speech. Once you spoke about the Why people do not change, it is easy to complete. Many people, even from the elite, followed you for 50, 60 years; and they are still sleepy, as in 1930. And they had all conditions to put an end to their condicioning. Here come two factors you avoid to extend even a little. Nature - unfortunately, to discover the Truth, Nature will not permit that to anyone. That´s why many yogis, sadhus, rishis, monks, etc, attained nothing ; yoga will not help. Only marked cards can blossom and touch that. A person, permitted by Nature, will get the light. Even in your family only you got that. Even Osho, Sad.guru, Nityananda, Tolle, etc, saw that nothing can be done, the sleep is sepulcral. If one gets the light and his compassion is the highest, The second factor will not allow the Light multiply, because of the same Nature´s laws and controls. The repression, tiranny, lies, army, death, will shut the Light up. So, the sleepy people must face Nature and They, that you don´t refer directly.
Man won’t change. Wee can’t accept the idea of being alone nothing after life. That simple. We don’t abandon the idea can’t accept loneliness. That simple.
Illusion confusion you name it that's what the human being really is but they can make the most intelligent gadgets I'll tell you that what is up to no avail doesn't help us change the humanity we can make all the spaceships we want it doesn't change who we are because we are so stuck on ourselves
Physical Bank, Biological Bank and Psychological Bank. Do not transfer any type of material from Physical Bank, Biological Bank to Psychological Bank. Psychological Bank must be ZERO balance account. It operates on T&C of Awareness, Living in Active Present, Sensitivity, Listening, Attention, understanding what is not love rather than what is love, actions without intervention of thought in human interaction and relationships.
U need actually 2 want the absolute Truth and go 4 it all the way and surrender 2 it....its a bit a discomfort...therfore u need a fire and be straight and fearless ...not a coward or lazy one.
I suppose he has not answered it at all. The radical change is not the matter of lack of energy is one takeaway. The question has been explained nicely but there is a need of elaborate answer.
Change in our relationship, to ourselves, to others, to the world. (Which are not separate things). And this question of How? Partly roots from our left-brain hemisphere oriented brains. I remember K has said that our approach to enquiry is solution based in many cases and thus leading us to become impatient of the process of dialogue. Also Iain McGilChrist's "Hemisphere theory" supports this. So we have inability to Look, to go into these matters beyond the intellectual and verbal understanding.. If one can see clearly what has caused inner conflict in the first place, perhaps there will be less to none Effort to endure this conflict by overcoming it with the makings of Thought.. As a result, one is simply left to Look. One may then understand that inner conflict is something very subtle, and to be watchful of it requires great sensitivity and awareness. Practical change? One begins to emphasize this in daily life. Not in the ideals of ''Mindfulness'', but through insight that has lead you into a change of life which allows space for reflection.
May it be the universe is eternal existed rather being created at some point? The person who wants to unlock the door to the key in the lock it is prior to the key turning but at the same time turning at the same time temporally? Emmantion and it flows over beyond time and space. A round square does not exist. 🙏❤️🌍🌎🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵✨️💫✨️💫
It's dialogue. It is supposed to leave you space for your own pondering. You've created a important remark here saying that the speaker doesn't say anything. Where does this come from? Look into this. Is it from K's inability to convey coherent message? Or is it inability to listen, and see the meaning behind the words, to reflect them in one's own life and make use of it? In other words, is the message just heard as ideas, and not seen what's the actual purpose of it in real life? It could as well be language barrier, or even more likely, that we are all listening K through video. In this way you cannot really capture even the half of what the person intends to deliver. Whereas in person, you are witnessing the other in "flesh and blood", and communication is more likely to happen.
You are not frustrated with him, you're frustrated with yourself... please there is still love left to save you...I understand how life can be difficult for you...I promise you'll overcome
I read "The Flight of the Eagle" in 1979 and it changed my life and saved my sanity or what there was of it. Krishnamurti was Enlightened and helped me tremendously with His Truth. Mary Lutyens wrote about K's process in "Years of Awakening"❤🌟❤
Is it a book worth reading?
Camus came in handy right about then also. I forget the name of the book but it had a Colorful Feather on the Cover I believe? And Richard Bach!
Because most people are not aware of how much pain they're in and the ego loves to hide and mask it all to keep the cycle going.🙏
This was very good and provocative. A no nonsense guy.
Great mind . Yes thank you Krishnamurti 🙏
Very exact and to the point. I love this, being this month 82.
Happy birthday 🎉
I always felt an un surpassed character .
His wisdom is so incredible that is not limited to psychological but beyond the all boundries of thought process. Sometime i go deep with his wisdom and find the life in very basic things.
Thanks!
Thank you for your continued and generous support
Thank you so much 👍 ❤❤
Everyday, modern generations feel purposelessness. Tensions grow as a result. So much energy dissipated, never a freedom to look.
One point He missed is: There are actually people who live so free of fear, of false hope, of any conflict. They wake up every morning and just GO!!!!
Full speed ahead, living their dream passionately. I definitely envy a person like that. I think They are truly SANE!
(i . e., I'm not 😳🙄😬)
He is such a fire...Truth is awsome...much better as any lie.❤Aum.
.Thx 4 the recording and uploud. May Absolute Truth be ❤
Thank you ❤
In the field of a religious life no question of teacher and the taught !!!.This is a revolution inwardly!!!
I‘m still searching for the inner state of mind freedom and radical change you‘re talking of. I see myself always captured in another trap, another prison, another pattern.
Love without motive #hereandnow 💕🫶🏾 like #ramdass says: it’s not about being high but being free 🆓
Thank you for sharing this content from #krisnaji.
Profound question in first place !
Radical change often necessitates a significant (life-altering) event such as a terminal disease diagnosis (e.g. cancer), repeated visions and dreams that depict our lives as drastically different, genuine enlightenment (however that may appear to each of us), and even a near-death experience - something that awakens us from a perhaps decades-long trance or sleep; something that reveals to us what our true life purpose is (rather than what it may have been conditioned to be).
Great love has been the best motivation for me. I am a miracle. ....
Yes! Meeting these events with the full force of one's being is when the environment exists for remembering. It might be an existential event for you or a loved one. There may be no path. Some there is _escape_ for others there is _seeing_ and some become _destroyed._
Well I think he's put the question nicely but has he answered it is the question. I have only got that changing is not the matter of lack of energy.
Totally agreed with you !
Gift Of Desperation. I came upon this similarly because I was at a point in my life where I knew that if I continued on the way I was going that things were not going to end well for me. You have to have a breakdown before you can have a breakthrough.
"Very few human beings change radically."
Maybe there's a good reason for. Who knows. In the meantime, the World/Universe is perfect at any moment in time.
The point touched here is the soul of all his talks. The moment ones own mind understands and then acknowledge this truth and finally see it in it's own movement in day to day life. He can truly set itself free from all movements which is nothing but a constant formation from illusion to other and still act skillfully and do all acts required in the physical world. As now the source behind all illusornary assumptions and problem itself is aware of its own creation and realizing same finally stops doing so...
'This truth', which one?
Eğer düşüncenin başlangıcına bakarsanız. Önce duyularla algılama var. Mesela gözle baktığımız şeyler var. Sonra bu bakışa düşünce sözlü olarak müdahâle ediyor. Sonra imge, sonra da duygu oluşuyor. Düşüncenin bu işleyişinin çocukken ana dili öğrenme aşamasında gelen bir alışkanlık olabileceğini fark ettim. Çocuğa şeylerin adını öğretirken mesela, anne, baba, ağaç gibi. Çocuğun duyularla algılamasına müdahale ediyoruz. Çocuk, düşüncenin alanına giriyor ve arşivde yaşamaya başlıyor. Kelimelerin olmadığı bir ilişki gerçekten var.
The answer to his question is that very few humans want to change fundamentally, or radically. If they did then they would.
Biologically, we do what we do. Cognitively or psychologically, I've been trying to work out the remaining mysteries OF the biology that causes so many such existential anxiety. We're too busy selling drugs to solve the problems for real. The meaning of life for me has become to review human knowledge and try to fix the sloppy patches that pass for understanding. I get silence or ridicule for being right. We're too busy paying people to repeat dogma.
A psychological field in which all movement is meaningless 🙏🙏❤️
I wonder if, when we complain that the human world is a mess, we are also willing to see that we are part of that mess.
Or are we so self-absorbed to think that we are outside of it?
Yes, just by complaining about how the mess impacts us (as well as perhaps others) we have effectively separated ourselves from it and further believe that the world's problems are unequivocally someone else's responsibility to fix (usually our so-called "leaders").
It depends on how sensitive you are to your subconscious mental processed. You might acknowledge the fact and naturally our undeniable role, or you might just be saying to feel better about yourself.
@@theuofs Exploring our own mess is indeed the primary responsibility.
But most of us are not interested in this responsibility, and most of those who claim the are interested, do inquire only intellectually about this subject.
@@ismailaskhatir6708 I wonder what we mean by ``subconscious``?
Is there such a thing as a ``subconscious mind``, or somebody, someone like Freud or other clever inventors have implied it and we accepted it as a belief?
It seems to me that what we call subconscious is simply what we don`t think about or don`t want to think about.
I'm always perturbed by structural flaws that allow the world to not work as it should. But I don't participate in this society to the extent that I can. The US in 2024 is a failing kleptocracy in which people will do and say anything to get by. I hate money and try not to use it if possible.
Such humans are hard wired differently
It only takes an instant for insight to grasp that biology and psychology are dissimilar.
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Way cool.
I feel like impossible to be sober enough to understand this
Then you dont understand life itself.. still immature.. which is good...
Observar o aqui e agora o padrão que está em movimento. A Atenção plena.
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🙏🙏🙏
All my dear sir we all respect you know that you're fighting the one thing we can never really change in US basically no good when I got older I actually a cousin of mine show me your podcast I said if I would have had this in 1970 imagine I didn't know about him I would have had a cassette or something that would have saw my problems of learning I knew how to make things but I had no social ability of any kind know I wasn't around people that were good to learn I didn't want to learn because you know what it didn't interest me the people who were teaching you learn from this man you hear his podcast talking he's talking about you find out yourself you don't believe it you find out and you'll see that you understand hey you know what is and what isn't your bombard is his little with what fear over and over fear all the time I dealt with this fear all my life but you learn from him what makes you smart I became smart within 5 years I became socially smart
Thanks
Thank you for your generous support
Now human life is so complicated you should keep on searching for survival until your death as old family system collapsed
Before 100 years ago
No one thought about retirement fund as they were sure kids will take care of elders
No divorce was there
Only people living in stable supporting family can think of philosophy social services spirituality etc
He is right, just some new words to his speech. Once you spoke about the Why people do not change, it is easy to complete. Many people, even from the elite, followed you for 50, 60 years; and they are still sleepy, as in 1930. And they had all conditions to put an end to their condicioning. Here come two factors you avoid to extend even a little. Nature - unfortunately, to discover the Truth, Nature will not permit that to anyone. That´s why many yogis, sadhus, rishis, monks, etc, attained nothing ; yoga will not help. Only marked cards can blossom and touch that. A person, permitted by Nature, will get the light. Even in your family only you got that. Even Osho, Sad.guru, Nityananda, Tolle, etc, saw that nothing can be done, the sleep is sepulcral. If one gets the light and his compassion is the highest, The second factor will not allow the Light multiply, because of the same Nature´s laws and controls. The repression, tiranny, lies, army, death, will shut the Light up. So, the sleepy people must face Nature and They, that you don´t refer directly.
Why can’t we accept that it’s all meaningless?
Ego
Man won’t change. Wee can’t accept the idea of being alone nothing after life. That simple. We don’t abandon the idea can’t accept loneliness. That simple.
Ego
Illusion confusion you name it that's what the human being really is but they can make the most intelligent gadgets I'll tell you that what is up to no avail doesn't help us change the humanity we can make all the spaceships we want it doesn't change who we are because we are so stuck on ourselves
the whole lecture should be shared else it is of no use. the video doesn't answer the question or the topic in the title.
Where do I find the whole video?
You are spot on ! The question has been put very nicely not the answer
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Physical Bank, Biological Bank and Psychological Bank. Do not transfer any type of material from Physical Bank, Biological Bank to Psychological Bank.
Psychological Bank must be ZERO balance account. It operates on T&C of Awareness, Living in Active Present, Sensitivity, Listening, Attention, understanding what is not love rather than what is love, actions without intervention of thought in human interaction and relationships.
U need actually 2 want the absolute Truth and go 4 it all the way and surrender 2 it....its a bit a discomfort...therfore u need a fire and be straight and fearless ...not a coward or lazy one.
I don’t understand! 😢 Someone explain to me in simple terms please what he is trying to say.
I suppose he has not answered it at all. The radical change is not the matter of lack of energy is one takeaway. The question has been explained nicely but there is a need of elaborate answer.
But change in what?......like do we have disolve inner conflict.... But how? How to get rid of all conflicts
Change in our relationship, to ourselves, to others, to the world. (Which are not separate things).
And this question of How? Partly roots from our left-brain hemisphere oriented brains.
I remember K has said that our approach to enquiry is solution based in many cases and thus leading us to become impatient of the process of dialogue.
Also Iain McGilChrist's "Hemisphere theory" supports this.
So we have inability to Look, to go into these matters beyond the intellectual and verbal understanding..
If one can see clearly what has caused inner conflict in the first place, perhaps there will be less to none Effort to endure this conflict by overcoming it with the makings of Thought.. As a result, one is simply left to Look.
One may then understand that inner conflict is something very subtle, and to be watchful of it requires great sensitivity and awareness. Practical change? One begins to emphasize this in daily life. Not in the ideals of ''Mindfulness'', but through insight that has lead you into a change of life which allows space for reflection.
Can anyone tell me where do I find the full video of this speech?? Please
The link is in the video description
Simply were afraid of denying Religion. What if ? Were wrong ? That simple
Dominus praedicat in deserto...
May it be the universe is eternal existed rather being created at some point? The person who wants to unlock the door to the key in the lock it is prior to the key turning but at the same time turning at the same time temporally?
Emmantion and it flows over beyond time and space.
A round square does not exist.
🙏❤️🌍🌎🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵✨️💫✨️💫
I did, But I'm a Masonic Child so it was my fate to be better.
Irony!
I am always frustrated with him
He talks so much yet says nothing
It's dialogue. It is supposed to leave you space for your own pondering. You've created a important remark here saying that the speaker doesn't say anything. Where does this come from? Look into this. Is it from K's inability to convey coherent message? Or is it inability to listen, and see the meaning behind the words, to reflect them in one's own life and make use of it? In other words, is the message just heard as ideas, and not seen what's the actual purpose of it in real life?
It could as well be language barrier, or even more likely, that we are all listening K through video. In this way you cannot really capture even the half of what the person intends to deliver. Whereas in person, you are witnessing the other in "flesh and blood", and communication is more likely to happen.
You are not frustrated with him, you're frustrated with yourself... please there is still love left to save you...I understand how life can be difficult for you...I promise you'll overcome
❤❤❤