Why did Carl Jung avoid meeting the famous Indian saint Ramana Maharshi?
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- Carl Jung visited India for the first time in the 1930s and met a lot of prominent people, but failed to meet Ramana Maharshi. People were shocked when they learnt that Jung had not met Ramana Maharshi. A few years later, Carl Jung wrote about his experiences in India and did not explicitly mention his regret of not meeting the enlightened Indian guru, but deep down he did feel that he might have missed a golden opportunity to meet a great man. Many have suggested that Carl Jung would not have been able to handle being in the presence of a man who knew himself. He could not have handled his science-based illusions of psychiatry and the mind shattered. Others have suggested that just spending time with him may have brought him to self-realisation, which is why he may have avoided the meeting altogether. Whatever the reason may have been, Jung would have realised that the study of the mind can only take you so far and the path of spiritual mysticism is the way.
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This was undoubtedly a mistake on Jung’s part. He most certainly should have visited Maharshi.
Rationalization, the downfall that is western intellectualism.
This may be the only time I've heard Jung bullshitting himself. He was simply afraid.
German philosophers never made it past the intellect.
I think that was the longest answer I have ever heard for a simple question but then he did not really even answer the question lol!
To me, Jung's reasons for not meeting Ramana Maharshi come across as a massive rationalization.
Avoiding a bonafide Buddha is like a Beatles fan knowing John Lennon was in the cafe next door, and he wanted to meet you, but you stay away. Imagine!
Jung's words are empty and useless. He obviously wasn't ready to meet Ramana Maharshi.
Purposely dodging Ramana Maharshi is like someone from the 1960's purposely avoiding going to see the Beatles. Ramana didn't even charge. People were able to walk into the mahsrshi's ashram and be with the guy. You didn't even need a ticket.
Jung's words on this are a bunch of fluffy goofiness masking his immense neurotic phobia of the changes that might take place in himself if he were to meet an enlightened being. Because such an experience I think he feels intuitively might undercut his ego too close for comfort and so he avoided having such an experience as that it was deemed personally threatening. I don't believe Jung neglected to meet Romana Maharshi because he feared being disappointed but because he had this fear of losing part or all of the ego structure which he had built and cherished.
I've been a student of Ramana and Jung for several decades and believe that Jung avoided meeting Ramana because he understood what Ramana represented was a transcendence of the psyche Jung was so ardently
In his writing about his visit to India and meeting that holy man he met Jung must have given us one of the most beautiful descriptions of what makes a saint a Saint: “He has found a meaning in the rushing phantasmagoria of being, freedom in bondage, victory in defeat.”
A lot of words to say "I guess I was scared"..
Sri ramana must smile with love at this
In some ways Jung understood that the Real Sri Ramana Maharshi was not residing at Arunachala . Genuinely Enlightened Sages are not limited by time or space , that it is why it is still possible to feel His Living Presence here and now. 🙏🕉️🕊️
Personally I think the reason why Jung didn't go and see Ramana is the fear that he will be totally overwhelmed. One of the things that a real enlightened man involuntarily does to those in his presence is to emanate silence. In that silence all karmic vasanas will get destroyed. It may seem strange but there is real fear in some people for this because when one's vasanas are destroyed, one loses one's personality. That is the death of the ego. For some that is what they really want. For others who are not quite ready, that can be a very frightening prospect indeed.
I understood it he found someone better. And meeting the man could have been a disappointing.
" Carl Gustav Jung was in India. He went to see the Taj Mahal, he went to see Khajuraho, he went to see the temples of Konarak, but he did not go to see Ramana Maharshi. And wherever he went, he was again and again told that "You being one of the topmost psychoanalysts in the West, you should not miss this opportunity of meeting a eastern mystic who has come to his full flowering."
For those interested: Peter Kingsley, a famous and too much neglected original scholar of the pre-socratic thinkers Parmenides, Empedocles and Zeno of Elea, wrote a two volume piece of work on Jungs 'mysticism' (Catafalque), certainly not from the perspective of oriental wisdom, but from Jung's own background and interest in historical phenomena like alchemy. Highly recommended.