2025 Yamaha R9 | Chris Is Excited!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- Chris looks between the lines of the new Yamaha R9 press release, MT09 with fairings or a proper Supersports bike, reading a PDF won't tell us what we need to know, we can't wait!
#yamaha #yamahar9 #supersports
Hopefully the other rumor of a V4 R1 comes true too
If it does it'll be 25 grand plus, irrelevant to most the population.
It's not gonna pass emission in the EU, so only for MotoGP.
CP4 for MT10 is prolly still going to be there since it's designed for more low end torque. But they discontinued the CP4 for the R1 since high revs can't pass the emissions anymore.
I think this is the end of 1000cc 4 in line high revving engines, farewell screaming supersports.
Not sure how a V4 R1 would fail euro5+ if it’s a ground up design. They’d also price it the same to compete with the RSV4 (which also starts around 19K). I’m still waiting on CFMoto to bring out its v4 and undercut everyone.
@@BraapBanana_ s1000 isn't going anywhere, and its probably a better bike than the R1 anyway.
I agree. I think the superbike thing is going away. Sadly. They are getting too premium and the sales are lacking for the big 4.
I appreciate that the Bike World audience seems far more mature and level headed about the changing landscape of motorcycles instead of getting the pitchforks out and raving about the good old days like some other channels.
Thanks, that’s always been our goal, we love 2 wheels whatever they are.
I think a lot of people misunderstand the R9. The fact that they gave it a completely new chassis on top of adding suspension and brakes that are above even the level of an R6, says a lot about how serious they are. If they were going for a watered-down sportbike for the road, they would have simply slapped fairings on an MT09 like they did with the R7. This is absolutely intended to replace the R6 in most of the classes it races in, and some of those have already been confirmed.
At the same time, the CP3 engine makes it way more attractive to the masses, most of which spend >90% of their time on public roads and not the track. Boatloads of torque at any RPM, slightly more relaxed ergonomics (which can easily be adjusted back to R6-levels btw) and even things like cruise control are all going to help soften the blow of riding a supersport on the road and should help lure in a lot of people who would otherwise not be in the market for one.
Lastly, the CP3 has tons of potential. I suspect simply plucking it from the parts bin allowed them to hit that aggresive price point (also, 117hp is plenty for the road), but in race-spec, it shouldn't be hard to get 140-160hp out of that engine.
I think Yamaha has a real winner on their hands here, this bike has the potential to breathe some new life into the supersport class. I get that 10 more hp would have been nice, but I think Yamaha is rightfully more interested in keeping the price down and selling a lot of them.
Agreed on all points. Good assessment.
This isn't the bike I wanted, but it is the one I expected.
It’s not a successor to the R1. It’s a sports bike in its own right.
Yep, but it will the largest Yamaha road bike we'll be able to buy here in the UK.
It is to the R6
@@BikeWorldTVshow And that's pretty sad
World leaders want us to have us all riding round on cycles or walking everywhere. Certain british politicians seem to think "the age of personalised transport is over".
R9 vs. R6
117.3hp@10000rpm vs. 116.7hp@14500rpm (less stress on the engine and a lot less manic riding style)
93Nm@7000rpm vs. 61.7Nm@10500rpm (less stress on the engine and a lot less manic riding style)
11.5:1 CR vs. 13.1:1 CR (less stress on the engine and possibly more fuel options)
830mm vs. 850mm (easier to live with for anyone under 6ft)
195kg vs. 190kg (not ideal, but is that difference going to affect your riding in any substantive way...?)
more state-of-the-art electronics than one can wrap their head around vs. primitive ABS and intrusive TC (smoothness vs. choppiness)
cheaper adjusted to inflation vs. more expensive adjusted to inflation (more people can buy, ride and track it)
But I've already heard 4 journalists and 3 different publications claiming it won't hold a candle to the venerable R6. Without riding it.
Idiocy at its finest.
You're also making claims w/o riding it... I guess you belong in the same group...
@johnnyblue4799 ❤
Nothing is going to be like the first edition of the R1
In before the bots (and general TH-cam idiots) start complaining about the looks, horsepower, colors, mirrors , headlight, seat, fairing, passenger pegs, swingarm, tires, etc.
These days people judge faster after reading the numbers and looks. The art of riding doesn't offer pleasure to them. It's really sad because good creations are dumped because of this.
It's more powerful than most bikes out on the road, and with how much people love the mt09 I bet it'll be a fantastic bike
@@antonydavis5917 I'm convinced that competitors flood the comments with negative reviews and complaining. Most bikes these days are damn good, but if u read the comments it's all hate
The idiot complaining about the idiots in the opposite camp is faster at the keyboards this time.
Do you live in India?@@Villani_AV
There have been some enticing new releases recently. A good time to be a motorcyclist - but an even better time to be a motorcycling journo!
Busy time!
@@BikeWorldTVshow Don't expect much sympathy! 🙄
4 years ago I part exd my mt09 for a bmw xr 1000, brought in lockdown etc so didn’t bother test riding, within 300 metres of pulling of on the xr I wondered where the hell the low end and mid range had gone, the cp 3 is a perfect engine for the road
title should be CHRIS IS SAD
Called my dealership today on the list.
Let us know how it goes.
Great points Chris. It's a perfectly good middleweight and for the euro countries hopefully that will be enough. I have a 23 SP and cannot wait for this to come out, mainly due to any electronic upgrades they do to this might be likely to arrive on the next gen 25 SP, launch control on a MT09? Yes please!
I'd take the red and white beauty next to Chris over this new one. This being said, and considering the insane prices of the proper I4 litre sportbikes, I'm going back to the 600... CBR probably, 'cause I like red more.
But is Chris more excited about rc990r?
Soon we get ninja900, rs990, daytona 765, whatever ducati replaces the supersport or/and panigale v2 with, and whatever else can be an upper middleweight sport.
Quick heads up. The frames on this may be a bit on the weak side if the higher than normal gen3/4 MT09 frame failures are anything to go by.
The frame is not similar to the old R1's rectangular hollw section, its a new monocoque type basically C section type beams with diagonal ribbing inside. Lighter and maybe stiffer but not as strong overall.
The frame breakages usually result from people fitting single mounting point sliders... so if you are going to get one and fit sliders, make sure its a double/triple mounting point type.... if such a thing is even possible on a faired bike?
Crazy time... What's gonna happen to the MT-10? Are they gonna provide a 200hp sportbike? Kinda weird they have nothing to compete with the V4 Panigale, etc...
I had an aprilia RSV (2003). 190kg. 118bhp. 70ft/lb. Good for 150mph on the road. It wasn't slow by any means, so the R9 looks like quite a tool for the real world
Need to sit on it, but this and the 990rc have been on my radar
The press release track footage looks like the worst form of marketing, with "fast" shots taken at 35 MPH, etc...... You keep us updated Chris, but I'm not holding my breath for anything special
I love my '24 XSR900 but I have to admit that if I can get the same engine, better TFT, and a more aesthetically pleasing profile (while still being catered towards street riding), well it makes me very curious. I want to feel/look like I'm in a torpedo shark machine! So... if it's even reasonably comfortable for 1 hour rides then I think I might trade.
In USA I’m glad we get the R1 still granted I don’t care for Europe not my land but I want the R6 back that is my favorite bike in the world. Now let’s see the r1 with V4 I want to see what they do with that
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I thought the same that it would be 14k, at 12.2k it's the same as an xsr gp. That's an interesting comparison. I plan to view both once cmc have stock of the R9.
Who would buy this thing instead of the retro GP thing that Yamaha is also selling? ”It's for the track!", someone may claim. I won't judge you for wanting a 120cv-900cc machine for the track but, isn't a second hand R1 a better option?
Looks ok but when people have to immediately come out and defend the bike rather than herald it, it's not the greatest start. It'll live in the shadow of a bike from 25 years ago I'm afraid.
Now Triumph must bring "Daytona 975" to go against R9.
Its an R6 replacement. No other words to describe it.
I’m an old bugger. I’ll stick to my MT-09-SP
Great bike!
Triumph please come out with Daytona 765…. We need more competition in the space
it would be amazing!
Didn't they already release the Daytona 765 Moto2?
@@stuffedcrust4522 yes, but I think they should revive a production model to compete
I was about to make up my mind to buy the Honda cbr600rr or the cbr650r. But the R9 made me reconsider my options
If anything, the R9 reinforced my decision to get a cbr600rr, or a ZX6R...
Was hoping for a v2 beater, gotta admit a bit disappointing for me, really wanted one but it's a no from me
No doubt it will fool a few people
"...to cheer you up Yamaha has finally announced they are replacing the r6/1 engine with a four-wheeler engine!" ....😐
200bhp+ sports bikes have out gunned themselves almost into extinction, I think we have seen their pinnacle and now must watch their demise into the history. They are simply to much for the road nowadays and manufacturer struggle to give them away.
Meh... I was waiting for the R9 to come out as I am Yamaha fan and wanted to change my naked 750 for a faired bike. Well, now I know that I am not getting the R9. Will stick to the original plan which is 09-14 R1. Also you SHOULD NOT be comparing this to the R1 it comes nowhere near it. This would come close to R6.
0:02 fake news. Yamaha R1 is back
yamaha needs to hire a new designer
Long overdue...
Didn’t like the R7. Don’t like the R9 either (based on what I’ve seen, obviously). I’m not generally a purist and someone who hates on anything other than 1000cc V4’s but I’m just not into the CP2 and the CP3 for sports bikes. I’d rather buy a used R1.
Have people genuinely been waiting for this ? I mean really ?
Yep!
I also think it’s meh. I prefer the xsr900gp tbh. More honest and clearly not a successor to the R6 or the R1.
I blame climate change apologists for Yamaha getting rid of the R1. 🖕
It is probably close to the old r6, But not on the same planet as the R1. Thank emissions and sound regulations for putting an end to high performance sportbikes. This is the de-evolution of motorcycles happening before our eyes, its going downhill frome here mates. Marketing will try to put your focus on torque figures and winglets instead, and will also try to use the old models name to pass as high performance machines. But It is not and will never be.
**#@ yamaha
First comment?😌
So it's done.. I will never be able to buy a new R1. Maybe one or two more years before I could afford the luxury of a brand new hypersport. It's a sad world. Everything is watered down, cost cut, enviornmental, boring..
Should be good, but its overpriced. The zx6r and cbr600 are much cheaper
The 636/600 have significantly less torque and less premium components (notably chassis and brakes). The R9 is a bargain at 12.5k$!
@@wlt3585 All of them have fully adjustable suspension front and rear, ali twin spar chassis's and 4 piston radial brakes. Showa is better quality than KYB too.
@@MrTrick. Aye, and the R9 also has cruise control, launch control, six axis IMU, several power modes (if it is similar to the 09, there's a notable difference between each one), engine brake control, and more. I'm going to also call your bluff and that for 99% of riders, they aren't going to tell much difference between the Showa and KYB forks after they are adjusted to the rider-both are high quality. The difference between the Tokio (cbr600r and 636 brakes) and Brembo brakes meanwhile are noticeable to the average rider.
In the USA:
The CBR600RR is 12.2k$ base price. ABS Version is 13.2k$ (yes, MORE than the R9). The Ninja is 11.3k$ Base, 12.3k$ ABS.
The r9 is 12.5k$, for all the bells and whistles. Same power, more torque, still Japanese reliability, and way better electronics package.
The r9 is a *bargain* at its price. The 636 and 600 are not much cheaper by any metric.
@@wlt3585
The CBR also has power modes, up & down quickshifter, the traction control and the IMU off the fireblade. The only thing it lacks is cruise, but why would you want that on a track bike?
In my country, the R9 is nearly 2k more expensive than the CBR. I don't live in the US so I'm not concerned about the prices over there.
@@MrTrick. Out of curiosity what country? If I didn't have a preference for Triples, I certainly wouldn't feel confident dropping 2k$ more either. That's just not the reality over here 🤷♂️
It’s sad seeing the lack of enthusiasm in your voice like the times when you see an actual nice bike, minus the current soar throat, hope you get well soon.
He's ill!
He's obviously sick
@@BikeWorldTVshow apologies, didn’t mean that, half asleep topped by autocorrect magic.
@@subzero-ku2wx He is, struggled on through though like a brave little soldier. 🤣
@@SurajDeuja1987 no worries, he wasn’t himself though.
That moment when you realize that the comments under a video can be even funnier than the video itself🔥
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