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  • @MrTimPL
    @MrTimPL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    25:05 I LOVE that you added that Fleur got points for "Moral attitude" instead of Harry

  • @darkenai0045
    @darkenai0045 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    Umbridge as "good" teacher I imagine is like a college professor who shows the material but refuses to explain or take questions but instead demeans anyone who doesn't instantly get it or asks questions

    • @Coco-my9qu
      @Coco-my9qu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      So ... like Snape?

  • @coolnerdlll6053
    @coolnerdlll6053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +520

    The multi-part stories are the absolute best What Ifs. I'm still holding out for the rest of What If Neville Was The Chosen One.
    Also, I'm dying laughing at the idea of some random Quidditch World Cup attendee accidentally becoming a Horcrux instead of Harry. Maybe it's Agatha Timms and Voldemort's soul knows a lot about eel farming.

    • @ikedounut1187
      @ikedounut1187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same

    • @Minecraftsmewtwo
      @Minecraftsmewtwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same same

    • @Roid33
      @Roid33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same same same

    • @theohanley1715
      @theohanley1715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Absolutely yo

    • @orangetuxedoman
      @orangetuxedoman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Patiently waiting yes.

  • @Minecraftsmewtwo
    @Minecraftsmewtwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    3 what if ideas
    1.what if dumbledore told harry about the prophecy in philosophers stone
    2. What if the troll killed hermione
    3.what if Krum won the triwizard tournament
    (Also massive respect for uploading 2 videos in 1 minute)
    And I hope you continue what if Neville was the chosen one

    • @jennb1590
      @jennb1590 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      What if Snape overhead the whole prophecy?

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      In response to 2, I imagine Harry and Ron would’ve either died or just not made it to certain conclusions without her lol

    • @Minecraftsmewtwo
      @Minecraftsmewtwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bruhdon4748 it would probably still be interesting though

    • @Minecraftsmewtwo
      @Minecraftsmewtwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennb1590 a lot of people have said that already but it would be cool

    • @kaylapounds1359
      @kaylapounds1359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Better yet, what if Harry took the trophy alone? Obviously he'd still go to the graveyard and a lot would play out relatively similar but... 1. Cedric would be left in the maze and have seen Harry get pulled away by a portkey, so would Fake Moody/Crouch kill Cedric to prevent him telling? Or would Cedric get a chance to tell Dumbledore and the others? Would they figure out everything sooner?
      2. Without witnessing the death of Cedric this would mean Harry doesn't see the thestrals the next year. Maybe OOTP plays out the same and after Sirius' death he sees them, but still.

  • @goliathus8815
    @goliathus8815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    so both snape and sirius survived in this version. dang that is a really big change

  • @ezradanger
    @ezradanger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I'm only 40 minutes into the video right now, but I wanted to pause it to let you know that this is awesome.

  • @maxwiebe357
    @maxwiebe357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    polyjuice is actually used 5 times in the deathly hallows.
    1. ministry break in
    2. gringotts break in
    3. 7 potters
    4. godrics hollow
    5. bill and fleurs wedding

  • @jennb1590
    @jennb1590 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    I’ve watched all the “what-if’s” multiple times. These combined videos are great for throwing on when I’m doing house work.
    Thanks for all the great videos. We all want the rest of “what if Nevle was the chosen one” but I’m also curious what would change if Snape stayed and heard the whole prophecy. Would Snape have told Voldemort? Would Voldemort have done anything different?
    Y’all are awesome. Keep up the great work!

    • @saba4646
      @saba4646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What do you think would become of Draco in your scenario? Would he desire to fight against Voldemort earlier assuming that Voldemort benefits of this situation and what would his parents do if he ran away on the knight bus at the age of 11?

    • @saba4646
      @saba4646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plz reply

  • @DuonDRaven
    @DuonDRaven 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

    - Baby Harry hiding under the invisibility cloak -
    Voldemort: "Wormtail, bring me the Petrol..."
    - Credits roll over a burning house -

    • @kikodalaya0601
      @kikodalaya0601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      "Harry Potter And The... Oh, No More Harry Potter"

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      A Burning Pile of Ash and the Philosopher's Stone.

    • @Minecraftsmewtwo
      @Minecraftsmewtwo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      And if Voldemort poured the petrol it wouldn’t even interfere with the prophecy

    • @ecoons08_yt
      @ecoons08_yt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeeaaahhhhhh I feel like baby Harry wouldn't be living through that no matter how much Lady Plot Armor wants it to happen

    • @TheSupremeBlunderer
      @TheSupremeBlunderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Petrol? More like fiend fire!

  • @colefuemmeler7685
    @colefuemmeler7685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Personal theory: The reason Harry is able to return to life isn't because of his sacrifice. Dumbledore just needs the world to believe it so they don't know the true power of the Deathly Hallows. In truth Harry is the true owner of all three, both being that he is the rightful heir to them and they have all been passed down to his possession. He is able to return because he is actually the Master of Death.

    • @ZoeHerron-hf7zt
      @ZoeHerron-hf7zt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Daaaannnng, what a cool theory.

    • @amberr3662
      @amberr3662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Does that mean that Harry is immortal?

    • @evalv2284
      @evalv2284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      harry's death killed the horcrux in him and left harry's soul intact. But i always did wonder how he kinda just comes back to life.

    • @lucy_reads
      @lucy_reads หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amberr3662 well, if he chose to be i think so

    • @metapotamus
      @metapotamus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@evalv2284He came back because of the resurrection stone

  • @DezMarivette
    @DezMarivette 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    LOL Voldy’s face on Lucius’s body is the most majestic image I’ve yet to see.

    • @Hello-CE0
      @Hello-CE0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can you give a timestamp, please?
      Never mind. Found it. 44:40

    • @Coco-my9qu
      @Coco-my9qu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh my god he has a nose ... and ... hair?

  • @NicoleFollansbee
    @NicoleFollansbee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    What if Snape never called Lilly a Mudblood? Would that change the plot at all?

    • @Serothil_and_stuff
      @Serothil_and_stuff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Harry Severus Snape sounds so wierd Oo

    • @TheKing72.
      @TheKing72. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Harry Severus and the sorcerers stone

    • @dillonlongland8995
      @dillonlongland8995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TheKing72. philosophers*

    • @curious999
      @curious999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Then Neville Longbottom and the Philosopher’s Stone

    • @greyrain16
      @greyrain16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@curious999 yes.

  • @sebastianwieczorek2041
    @sebastianwieczorek2041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    theres one big issue with this, if hermione gets petrified on halloween harry wont know to not look the basilisk in the eyes when he gets down to the chamber and will likely die in the chamber of secrets in his first year. i know this is hard to swallow but shes the one that found out that the monster is a basilisk and she only does that toward the end of the year, the piece of parchment harry and ron find on hermione and moaning myrtle is how they find out about the basilisk's instant kill eyes, and this way round they wont have a relationship with myrtle AND they wont have this info, so its very unlikely harry still defeats the basilisk

    • @ecoons08_yt
      @ecoons08_yt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wait you've got a point 😭

    • @FearsomeLAG
      @FearsomeLAG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not to mention the sword of griffindoor couldn't become a horcrux because it only imbues that wich strengthens it.

    • @triforceofcourage100
      @triforceofcourage100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A problem that can easily be solved with myrtle just volunteering the information when the chamber is opened not specifically that it’s a basilisk but that she died when she looked into something’s eyes. I say Harry being slower under the cloak never makes it in time to actually see the Chamber opened but when Ron is taken he bites the bullet and asks the ghost in the room. She then tells him about the giant snake with the piercing (possibly laser eyes) yellow eyes which upon reflection are probably what killed her forty-nine years ago when she looked at them.

  • @PixelIMC
    @PixelIMC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Voldemort’s face on Lucius is so weird and funny

  • @fleetstreet11
    @fleetstreet11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Umbridge being a Grindelwald admirer makes so much sense (what she has Harry etch into the back of his hand). "I serve the Greater Good". That gives me chills and calls forward (backwards?) to Book 7. Genius writing.

  • @ischgl89
    @ischgl89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Day 1 of asking: what if Grindelwald and Dumbledore actually went through with their plans?

    • @annahrodrigues4297
      @annahrodrigues4297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Gay

    • @davidbakke9293
      @davidbakke9293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah but the Fantastic Beasts series kinda sucks in comparison to HP

    • @annahrodrigues4297
      @annahrodrigues4297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@davidbakke9293 That's why we need them to rewrite it

    • @aubriegardiner37
      @aubriegardiner37 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I prefer the question: “what if dumbledore and grindelwald had never heard about the deathly hallows?” I like to think they’d be happily ever after, Arianna would be alive, he never would have become a teacher, never would have discovered tom riddle, and tom riddle becomes a corrupt politician in the muggle world with a self-discovered skill of mind control. Voters never stood a chance

    • @kaylapounds1359
      @kaylapounds1359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@annahrodrigues4297that's not cool to use gay as something you find insulting.

  • @ThatAnnoyingLynel
    @ThatAnnoyingLynel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Absolutely love you vids! I've been watching since... forever! I would love a theory about what if Barty Crouch Jr actually controlled himself as mad-eye moody after the maze.

  • @aud2d2
    @aud2d2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The only thing that I can’t quite see is Voldemort getting the philosopher’s stone in year 4. I thought nicolas flamel was actually planning on dying anyways and just let Dumbledore borrow the stone. Would it still be in the SCHOOL vault at Gringotts?
    In my mind, Flamel deposited the stone to the Hogwart’s vault. Then, Dumbledore had Hagrid pick it up. With such an important item, why would it not be on Flamel or under his own protection? He’s had it for hundreds of years right?

  • @HogsHighlights
    @HogsHighlights 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey there! I was wondering if I could make a suggestion. It would be amazing if you could create a video of Harry accepting Lupin's offer in the Deathly Hallows. I'm sure many fans, including myself, would love to see that iconic moment come to life. Thank you so much for considering it!

  • @Chillvibesonly629
    @Chillvibesonly629 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely love your in depth stories/ What Ifs. You two are very creative writers and very knowledgeable on the subjects. I’ve truly enjoyed these series. Would love to see more in the future. 🥰

  • @NoVaReflex212
    @NoVaReflex212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    "The teen who lived"

    • @Bilski86
      @Bilski86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still a boy 😂
      Under 21 is a boy

  • @mirvzdnb
    @mirvzdnb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I am left with only one question: Isn’t it impossible to make Gryffindor’s sword a Horcrux due to it’s properties?
    It is said that the sword only takes in what makes it stronger.
    A soul of Voldemort would make it a vulnerable object or am I wrong?

    • @potentianox1573
      @potentianox1573 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was about to post the same question myself. Goblin metal is only supposed to imbibe that which makes it stronger. It seems that taking voldemort soul into itself would be completely counterpoint to this, also, the sword is supposed to be impregnated with basilisk venom (that's what gives it the property to destroy horcruxes) why would the soul survive being in a container meant to destroy it?

    • @TheSupremeBlunderer
      @TheSupremeBlunderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It became impregnated with the basilisk venom in the chamber of secrets. Before that it was just regular old goblin metal.

    • @Selfish_Neurotic
      @Selfish_Neurotic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheSupremeBlunderer Just regular old, indestructible metal.

    • @The_Worst_Guy_Ever
      @The_Worst_Guy_Ever 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Having a piece of soul in it doesn't do anything to make the object weaker, in fact it's pretty much the complete opposite. Once something becomes a horcrux it becomes nearly indestructible though. Like a normal muggle diary needed a basilisk's fang to destroy it.

    • @DanielRossellSolanes
      @DanielRossellSolanes 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@The_Worst_Guy_Ever I see your point but I don't share it. the sword is already more indestructible than a horcrux.
      a horcrux can be destroyed with basilisk venom yet, that same basilisk venom couldn't damage the sword.
      a horcrux is a cursed object and curses don't make things stronger.

  • @quincyking010
    @quincyking010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    There's a major problem. Kakarot was only durmstrang head master after leaving the country. So the events would have been different since durmstrang would have had a different headmaster

    • @gabrielfiore8847
      @gabrielfiore8847 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just got to part 3, but another major problem I see is what is Snape doing??? He should still be a spy working for Dumbledore

    • @OtraConta
      @OtraConta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’m only calling him Kakarot from now on 😂 thanks

    • @wulftheghost
      @wulftheghost 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kakarot 💀 😂

    • @TheSupremeBlunderer
      @TheSupremeBlunderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still trying to figure out why they had matching cores when Harry wasn't a horcrux when he went wand shopping?

    • @hannahb.375
      @hannahb.375 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSupremeBlundererHarry was a horcrux as a baby. Tom’s own death plus the fact that his soul was unstable meant a part broke away from the rest of his wraith self that was in Albania for 10 or so years, and it went into Harry. So he was made a horcrux the night Tom attacked and tried to kill him

  • @davidbakke9293
    @davidbakke9293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    “Wormtail, I’m doing the Wordle. What’s a five letter word that starts with ‘S’ and ends with ‘KE’?”

    • @Jellybeansatdusk
      @Jellybeansatdusk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spoke, obviously 😂

    • @Octa-AFL
      @Octa-AFL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah it’s snake

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Your multi parts are awesome! Yoy always make My day ! Flower pot ruled😊😊😊

  • @alannahmartin9424
    @alannahmartin9424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi SCB i have two suggestions for what ifs:
    What if Hermione confronted Lupin about him being a werewolf in POA, or if she even just told Ron and Harry?
    What if Lupin didnt forget about his wolfbane potion that night and didnt transform, Pettigrew probably wouldnt have escaped, etc
    Needless to say I'm a Lupin stan

    • @DanielRossellSolanes
      @DanielRossellSolanes 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if Lupin didn't forget to take the wolfbane:
      1) Sirius would be proven to be innocent.
      2) peter wouldn't be able to help bring voldemort back to life.
      3) harry won't be the fourth champion since there will be no plan to kidnap harry so cedric won't die.
      4) no dumbledore's army since there will be no umbridge because harry won't claim voldemort is back.
      5) no voldemort plan to trick harry into recovering the prophecy so sirius won't fall through the veil.
      6) no mass break of azkaban since there won't be a voldemort to stage it.
      7) Draco won't be tasked by voldemort to kill Dumbledore (but dumbledore will still be killed by snape)
      8) Voldemort won't make snape the headmaster of hogwarts so McGonagall will become headmistress.
      9) Harry will go to hogwarts to finish his studies before going horcrux hunting.
      10) Harry never finds he's a horcrux nor let's voldemort kill him.
      11) when harry dies, so will the last horcrux killing voldemort for real before he got a new body.
      but, most importantly, Snape's true colors would never be revealed/believed so he will spend the rest of his days on the run to avoid being sent to azkaban for murdering dumbledore.
      it's a shame Lupin forgot the wolfbane.

    • @MulanBelle
      @MulanBelle วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're assuming that Barty Crouch Jr won't end up taking Wormtail's role in the story. After all, it's established that he was starting to fight back against the Imperius Curse. Eventually, he would succeed in overpowering his father and escape to find Voldemort and bring the Dark Lord back to power.

    • @DanielRossellSolanes
      @DanielRossellSolanes วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MulanBelle just a small detail. if barty is taking the place of wormtail, who would be impersonating alastor to ensure Harry is the one that wins the triwizard?

    • @MulanBelle
      @MulanBelle วันที่ผ่านมา

      @DanielRossellSolanes Perhaps in this scenario Voldy doesn't use the Tournament and instead has Crouch Jr kidnap Harry during a Hogsmeade visit or something like that.

  • @evalv2284
    @evalv2284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my favourite part was when J came out and said "Hey brother, as you can see I am not Ben"
    that, and "sick burn, potter"

  • @BillyBobJoe14
    @BillyBobJoe14 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Props to you for deleting The Cursed Child

  • @sirloro
    @sirloro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    could a coat be an invisibility coat if its a normal one under the fidelius charm? Because it should be invisible to anyone but the owner so anything beneath it as well. Yes it would work differently than the "normal" one but still.
    I wonder if this would be possible🤔

    • @imagromlin
      @imagromlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would think that rather than being invisible, people just dont notice it. They would still see the person, they just wouldnt notice they were wearing a coat

  • @willropa4226
    @willropa4226 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Clever trick with the training arc. I find it funny that the same trick happened in the main storyline and yet I still fell for it in this storyline.

  • @RockismyAir
    @RockismyAir 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Why does Sirius always need to die in your theories?
    Also: Why didnt Hagrid give baby Harry to Sirius to raise when Voldemort struck on Harrys parents?
    The story would have been different, but better.

    • @Orgeifex
      @Orgeifex 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bond of blood charm

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The blood charm lived on through her sister petunia & kept Harry safe until he was 17, of Sirius was related by blood then he would’ve went to Sirius

  • @Srt8Jeep
    @Srt8Jeep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The dark mark is worst when you see one in the laundry room.

  • @Dondoki_
    @Dondoki_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love the part where snape shouts "alive!" because its such a contradiction to most stories/theorys where they proclaim hes dead

  • @alainaclyden9754
    @alainaclyden9754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have put a silencing charm on the cloak

  • @thichinatangul3340
    @thichinatangul3340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does the “rightful owner of the cloak” means it is also make it sound proof?
    But in the movie - when Harry used it and gasped - Snape heard him… right?
    If not, baby Harry would probably be crying. So V could just pull off the cloak and kill him, no?

    • @juliaspoonie3627
      @juliaspoonie3627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was the first thing I thought about!

  • @superwildwarrior5758
    @superwildwarrior5758 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The actual answer is probably that Neville becomes the chosen one. Both Harry and Neville fit the prophecy except for the line about The Dark Lord marking them as an equal. After failing to find Harry he would go to the Longbottom house and either Alice or Frank protects Neville the same way Lily did.

  • @euler4273
    @euler4273 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this! It's interesting to see that most things would have happened one year earlier than they originally did. I wonder though how Harry's relatively uneventful 2nd and 3rd years would have gone on to shape him, and who the Defence against the Dark Arts teachers in years 1-4 would have been.

  • @SamWeiner-n4i
    @SamWeiner-n4i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We gotta get this guy Ben a thesaurus. Heard “as ever” 5 times and I’m half way through

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, there’s not many variations of as ever & the ones there are sound pretentious

  • @ParkerPlaysAdventure
    @ParkerPlaysAdventure หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a theory idea:
    What if James kept the Invisibility cloak and harry potter was put in Slytherin.
    PS why isn't harry in Slytherin he never got the ammo to say not Slytherin because you said in the what if harry was sorted into Slytherin series (loved it BTW) that if harry never met draco in diagon Alley he would not say not Slytherin.

  • @8-balllaufeyson948
    @8-balllaufeyson948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You guys should make a Percy Jackson video

  • @I-love-charity
    @I-love-charity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After 3 I was like, “ Voldy is da master of the elder wand! Gasp”😱

  • @ctrI_key
    @ctrI_key 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    these videos are very well-made! Love it

  • @NintendoCrescend0
    @NintendoCrescend0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If Moody's eye can see through walls, and the room of requirement is being used as a "somewhere that can't be found" room, can Moody see through the wall into the room?

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I always found it dumb that moodys eye can see through the cloak, makes no sense to me. Makes something super powerful negated so easily, how hard would it be to have your eyes replaced?

    • @kickpushlongboards
      @kickpushlongboards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bruhdon4748it's following the old tale of the "all seeing eye" which has many origins but is usually an eye plucked out from a god's face

  • @jprice7
    @jprice7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was re-reading Goblet of Fire the other day and a solid What If scenario occurred to me: What If Frank Bryce got out of the Riddle House before Nagini spotted him and reported what he heard to the police? I imagine the Ministry has ears in Scotland Yard and might hear about it also. What then?

  • @fawfulfan
    @fawfulfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've long had the same headcanon about the cloak: that its power is not to make you immune to all damage (it can't be; he's been hit with spells while under the cloak before, like Malfoy's Body Bind Curse on the Hogwarts Express), but just immune to all magical methods of undoing concealment. As for how Moody's magical eye was able to see through the cloak, my personal theory is that Moody/Crouch couldn't ACTUALLY see Harry. He could just see there was a cloak, and a big void in space where a person should be, and he just DEDUCED it was Harry because Snape at some point told him in the staff room that Harry had an unusually powerful invisibility cloak. Another possibility is that Moody/Crouch could see Harry because Harry trusted him and thus the cloak wasn't concealing him at full power.

  • @erikagholston6610
    @erikagholston6610 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was an amazing What If. It had me riveted to my tablet.

  • @HannahEvansOfficial
    @HannahEvansOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your videos

  • @Voloncheboroio
    @Voloncheboroio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fun storyline, but in Prisoner of Azkaban, Lupin did see cloaked Harry on the Marauder’s map. Semi plot hole given the later significance placed on the cloak.

    • @Voloncheboroio
      @Voloncheboroio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just saw the FAQ video where J and Ben address this by narrowing it down to total concealment from agent of death.

    • @Voloncheboroio
      @Voloncheboroio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Malfoy hitting Harry just by catching a glance of his foot earlier, is probably more hard to square with Mr. Lovegood’s description of “constant and impenetrable concealment, no matter what spells are cast at it”, or with Dumbledore’s claim that it “can be used to protect and shield”.

    • @Voloncheboroio
      @Voloncheboroio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The incident with Malfoy contradicts Ron’s claim that “we’ve never been spotted under it”. This has to be changed for the cloak to be something that Harry “had never seen anything to equal”,-a description that better fits the Marauder’s map, that thing is ridiculous.

  • @deshpandedhruv
    @deshpandedhruv หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm at 37 minutes right now. Few questions -
    1. I'm assuming since Voldy didn't fall, Wormtail didn't get cornered by Sirius and Sirius didn't go to Azkaban. Where is Sirius now? - answered at 50 minutes
    2. The confirmation from Slughorn's memory about multiple horcruxes. How does Dumbledore conclude that there are more than one? - answered later 😂

  • @calcifur
    @calcifur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    James wouldve gave it to Lily and she would've escaped with Harry. James would've been matyred but Voldemorts power would've continued to grow. Until they couldn't escape him.

  • @NussbaumBros
    @NussbaumBros 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Questions:
    1 What would happen if the trace was triggered in a fidelius charmed house would it work?
    2 What would happen if you polyjuiced into a viela are they the same species? It works when Fleur does it and she’s 1/4 Viela???

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    LOVED this one! Happy easter brothers! 🔥🔥🔥🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

  • @Payatown
    @Payatown 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Voldemort laughing clip gets me everytime 😂

  • @lovaboy57
    @lovaboy57 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m excited to listen to this story. However, 5 minutes in… the cloak doesn’t make its wearer unfindable.
    1. Moody can see through the cloak.
    2. The marauder’s map can find Harry when he’s under the cloak.
    3. Dementors find him through the cloak. Dumbledore also gives Harry the warning in book 3 that his cloak won’t work on dementors-and that’s after Dumbledore knows that the cloak is a hallow.
    We don’t have any evidence that the cloak makes Harry unfindable. On the contrary, every example seems to suggest the opposite.

    • @lovaboy57
      @lovaboy57 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8 minutes in - Harry’s dead if Voldemort destroys the house 😅 a backfiring curse that takes out Voldy and the house is different than Voldemort consciously destroying the thing with the intention of killing a hidden infant inside.

  • @forrestrosen6490
    @forrestrosen6490 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next what if idea: what if lily just takes Harry and disapperates to a safe location?

  • @adampennington979
    @adampennington979 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve had a theory that I’ve been sitting on for a while. If the Elder Wand’s got a thestral hair core, what if the invisibility cloak is made of thestral hair? I mean, thestrals are invisible, and so is the invisibility cloak.

  • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
    @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about that one scene where Harry is under the cloak sneaking around at night, and he stumbles upon Snape threatening Quirrel? Snape very clearly noticed Harry’s presence, and the only way Harry escaped discovery was by backing away before Snape’s probing hand could make contact with the cloak.

  • @xMCKx24games
    @xMCKx24games 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can't fool me, I heard the discord notification sound at 58:35

    • @Octa-AFL
      @Octa-AFL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard it at 57:57

  • @MrTimPL
    @MrTimPL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The moment Harry has disarmed Dumbledore I KNEW how it is gonna end

  • @Potterheadforever144
    @Potterheadforever144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how snape character was shown

  • @matthewpelletier6900
    @matthewpelletier6900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much better Elder Wand solution here than the main story.

  • @Coco-my9qu
    @Coco-my9qu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:02:13 I was actually thinking about the dragon just outside the vault.

  • @rodan9773
    @rodan9773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    How about.
    WHAT IF HERMIONE WAS THE CHOSEN ONE ?.
    Respect and keep up the epic work.

    • @OtraConta
      @OtraConta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A muggleborn destined to defeat the dark lord would’ve been sweet! I hope they make that

  • @DaneCoDM
    @DaneCoDM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When Voldemort created an 8 horcrux with the Sword when the goblet, ring, and the diary are destroyed. What stops him from just always having 7 horcruxs. Whenever one is destroyed, he can just create another one, right?

    • @mindovermatterbecomingyour1561
      @mindovermatterbecomingyour1561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No he can't as Hermione says he's pushed his soul to the limit him just making 5 rendered his soul so unstable that his killing curse rebounding on him blasted out a piece of soul & turned Harry into an accidental horcrux (altho I DO wonder how much of that was because voldy was preparing to make a horcrux & had completed the process up to the point of commiting the murder)

  • @MelissaHere720
    @MelissaHere720 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love what ifs videos 💚
    Now only need there take on what is siruis was proven innocent, both during back in the trial and at the end of POA.
    unless it exists already?

  • @PixelIMC
    @PixelIMC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love it continue the videos

  • @springerengineering6697
    @springerengineering6697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In this story, it's comedic how many times Voldemort fails to kill Harry in extremely public setting.
    Harry tanks a killing curse at the world cup, gets blocked by the twin cores in the forest, hit by golden fire in the minestry, kills his own soul in the castle, then gets backfired on seconds later.

  • @danteeightsix
    @danteeightsix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Invisibility Cloak is a Deathly Hallow.
    Harry had access to all three.
    The Elder Wand after disarming Draco, and the Resurrection Stone in the Golden Snitch so he could resurrect himself so the Horcrux could be destroyed when Voldemort killed Harry.
    At one point, Harry was potentially the most powerful wizard.

  • @fidogyrenuzanon2335
    @fidogyrenuzanon2335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Quick question. What happened to the stone in the snitch? I don’t think you guys ever used it.

    • @DTrain369
      @DTrain369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the same question

  • @Ourpalalex
    @Ourpalalex หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like thinking of these theories as real books that could have been sold and were successful. Like there's a Harry Potter book where there's a whole tournament storyline that the main character is just not a part of.

  • @ZChantie
    @ZChantie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this version of Goblet of Fire. Much better villain plan than the convoluted one we got in canon lol😅

  • @evanrosa306
    @evanrosa306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to imagine that when James went to hold Voldemort back, he got a few good punches in.

  • @Kyleeannewood
    @Kyleeannewood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these videos!!
    Would love to see ‘What If’ videos on…
    1) What if Lily escaped with Harry the night Voldemort attacked?
    2) What if Harry’s horcrux was sentient like the diary?
    3) What if Dumbledore raised/trained Harry?

  • @MJCam1130
    @MJCam1130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Ron and Hermione being there in the woods of the Quidditch World Cup with Harry when Voldemort appears. Voldemort singles out Harry and shoots him with the killing curse, then almost instantly vanishes when his soul is ripped from his body. Imagine the horror Ron and Hermione experienced when Harry was shot, then their absolute joy and equal bewilderment when they find out he’s still alive.

  • @RillaGorilla420
    @RillaGorilla420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That shirt Ben is wearing is absolute 🔥🔥🔥 and I want one!!!!!

  • @aon02b
    @aon02b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, the most unrealistic part of this is that Fleur would be interested in Harry because he's popular.
    Everyone wants to make her out to be super shallow just because she's beautiful. But her loyalty to Bill after he got his face mangled was supposed to show that she isn't superficial after all.
    Also, Harry was 14 while Fleur was 17 at the time 🤔

  • @thehalfmanTL
    @thehalfmanTL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    18:20 Sorry, but Roger Davies wasnt in the lake for Fleur, neither would be harry. Its always Gabrielle

  • @forrestrosen6490
    @forrestrosen6490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might go without saying but, safe to assume that in Harry’s first 3 years griffindor wins 3 quidditch cups, solidifying them as a DYNASTY!!!

  • @lukejohnson4975
    @lukejohnson4975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if Draco Malfoy Had Attended Durmstrang instead of Hogwarts? I believe that Draco brings up in The Goblet Of Fire that his father, Lucius, was initially intent upon his son gaining his education at a school which actively taught the Dark Arts, not to mention the fact that I got Karkaroff, a supposedly ex-Death Eater, was serving as its headmaster since sometime after his capture and Ministry trial/hearing? It was only Narcissa Malfoy's reservations about her boy/beloved son being so far away from her on the European Continent, since I think Durmstrang is in a
    centuries-old Norwegian castle or something like that, which prompted Lucius to send his son to the same institution him, and, at least so far as we are aware and know, all previous generations of Malfoys that came, lived, and went before them? Would Draco still meet Harry in Madame Malkin's Robes For All Occasions at all? If not, then perhaps we get another "Harry Potter Sorted Into Slytherin House" scenario? How would the complete absence of one Draco Malfoy as Harry's primary rival and enemy at Hogwarts affect the series, especially when we consider his planned role to kill Dumbledore in The Half-Blood Prince? Also, will Harry still end up on the Quidditch team in his first year, without Draco to steal the Rememberall from Neville as a direct catalyst? And how would Harry, Ron, and Hermione discover Fluffy and the trap-door without the ruse/ploy of the Midnight Duel Challenge from Malfoy? Could Malfoy end up at Hogwarts in fourth year as part of the Triwizard Tournament's Durmstrang delegation, perhaps somehow replacing Victor Krum as the Durmstrang Champion? And what about the Chamber Of Secrets if Harry is a Slytherin in such a universe, without Draco around to steal the Diary of Tom Riddle, and Ginny obviously having no access whatsoever to the Slytherin Common Room and Dormitories as a Gryffindor?

    • @hannahb.375
      @hannahb.375 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are so many amazing Durmstrang Draco fics. Highly recommend

  • @MrTimPL
    @MrTimPL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that Dumbledore would have doubts about putting Harry in the Black Lake

  •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tiny nitpick: In the original, Harry places the diadem onto the bust when he hides the half-blood prince's book. So if he does not have that book this time, it will just be… in some shelf… or whatever.

  • @eyez274
    @eyez274 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good work!

  • @mards9491
    @mards9491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this theory and I do think even in the movies they kind of hint to the cloak being more powerful for hardy. When snape hears Harry’s footsteps while questioning quirrl and reaches out I always saw the scene in my minds like the movie portrayed. Snape reaching out and hitting a void where harry holding up the cloak should have been. Since the cloak would not truely protect one from death if the magic in the cloak were not more than just makes you see through.

  • @Roald13th
    @Roald13th 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think they would’ve found the locket in Regulus’ room, as Kreacher already was working to destroy it for years at that point and would’ve had it close by. I believe they’d in the end ask him, and he would tell the story, thus repairing the relationship between him and Sirius. I thought that sounded nice.

  • @adamrobinson6951
    @adamrobinson6951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spoiler warning:
    I love the idea of Harry disarming Dumbledore as foreshadowing that he's the master of the Elder Wand. Not only is it neater than Harry just getting lucky, it fits with both the official and theorised mechanics of the wand.
    Did Harry become the master because he disarmed Dumbledore, thus defeating the current master? Did Dumbledore allow Harry to disarm him for this reason? Or did the wand choose the stronger wizard in Harry, believing itself to be betraying Dumbledore and taking a new master?

  • @Memer-Hub69
    @Memer-Hub69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    yo your doing great keep on uploading

  • @bittersprout3694
    @bittersprout3694 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's an idea: What if ... A _naturally _*_POWERFUL_* Muggleborn student (either Lily Evans or Hermione Granger) was a blood descendant of Martha Steward (the squib daughter of Isolt Sayre. Who is a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and Morgan le fay) and therefore born as a parselmouth with the ability to transform into an animal (crow or snake)... somehow.
    The born as an Animagus bit was optional

  • @owenmaudsley
    @owenmaudsley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Snape had not overheard the prophecy? Is Voldemort in the dark about Harry's threat against him for the next sixteen years? Quite the dramatic irony!

  • @savagelystitched
    @savagelystitched 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Am I the only one that gets teary-eyed when James urges Lilly to take Harry and run.😢😢😢

  • @hex9688
    @hex9688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The assumption that Harry would have the same wand without being a horcrux is erroneous, chances are priori incantatum wouldn’t happen.

  • @danielallen4450
    @danielallen4450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Severus never called Lily a mudblood, they stayed friends, and he became a spy for Dumbledore from the beginning of the first war, not the end.

  • @Liz-pc3dc
    @Liz-pc3dc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Voldemort : where's that baby? Baby Harry starts crying as babies are wont to do... Aaaaaannnnd he's found.

  • @crazyquirrels
    @crazyquirrels 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah, I was loving this What If up until it was revealed Sirius has just been a…well depressed recluse. Sirius would have fought with Dumbledore and at least made the deal that while Harry would spend some time with the Dursleys for protection, he would then go spend time with Sirius for the rest of the summer. Possibly also with the Weasleys. That makes more sense to me.

  • @Mozaique1337
    @Mozaique1337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But in Prisoner of Azkaban, Chapter 17, Lupin explains hat he can still see Harry on the Marauders Map, even under the Invisibility Cloak!

  • @ezradanger
    @ezradanger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to do a what if of what if they accidentally summoned Saruman into The wizarding world.

  • @spacepiratemitchell8201
    @spacepiratemitchell8201 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Moody's eye was a fourth hollow, think about it he has bested death multiple times, losing pieces of himself each time. I think it would be cool if he request an eye to see death coming so he can prepare for it. Constant vigilance.

  • @denisharter7333
    @denisharter7333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most important question is there a reality where the Durseleys are actually nice to Harry.

  • @vincentmarcellino7183
    @vincentmarcellino7183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate that Sirius isn't free by Harry's 3rd year. He deserves to actually survive this one after getting out. I'll update this comment accordingly. Please don't kill him again
    Edit 1: Okay I'm glad he wasn't in Azkaban the whole time. Also, "Sirius" logic? I see what ya did there. But he still better not die
    Edit 2: Thank you. Finally Sirius gets to be a dad

  • @elderscrollsswimmer4833
    @elderscrollsswimmer4833 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mm.. Are you sure Dumbledore wouldn't simply have professor Flitwick do the dueling training -- maybe they even had a club active early with Voldy not gone.

  • @TitanWar93
    @TitanWar93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is going to be a twoferone I know you done the Harry Potter in Slytherin but what if Sirius Raised Harry and he is still going to Slytherin? How can that work? It's a big challenge but it's worth something.