18:24 gave me the mental imagine of William saying "I know what's Henry trying to pull, but he's too much of a *bitch* to do it" followed by a jumpcut to William screaming on the fire
Afton's taste for "narrative symmetry" is almost directly confirmed in the FNAF movie when he tells Mike "This is perfect. First I killed your brother... now I kill you, symmetry, my friend!"
You know, this reminds me of Help Wanted, where Glitchtrap dances around in front of the stuffed Animatronics after forcing them to "Sing and Dance". It is so... Look at me, see how I screwed everything up.
I wanna point out that, with the establishment made with the "Bittersweet, but fitting," that Afton isn't quite fond of killing Michael, the line "That was easier than I thought it would be." also gives me the vibe of a double meaning. Like yes, it was easier as in it wasn't much of a challenge to do, but also it was easier in that... it was far easier for him to decide to and go through with killing his own *son* than he thought it would be.
I am fascinated by just how many different angles people are able to approach these lines with. But wow, this one is so good, I love double meanings omg. Afton only realising just how corrupt he's become once he's killed the last of his kin??? YES!!! IT'S BRILLIANT!!!
I agree that In a Way. William never really stopped seeing his Own Kids as well His Children. He Probably Hates Michael non existing guts,Its hard to Tell what he thinks of Elizabeth but There was probably Some affection there and His Interaction With CC in Fnaf4 was rather Neglectful, And He is Straight up Abusive towards the MCI in their Animatronic Shells in the Movie and Vanessa. But he never seems to Disregard them as Just his Tools(well,except in the novels but still) But I think that It’s rather Ironic and Fitting that The Man that destroyed so many childhoods and Families in Universe was a Father himself.
I think he was also expecting Michael to be stronger, as he himself raised the kid. Will was also probably the type to perceive his actions as "Tough love," and rant about how Mike's suffering would "build character" instead of just traumatize him.
"For someone who hates being lied to, Afton sure does struggle being honest himself" You've done it, you've sold me on William Afton as a character. I never had many thoughts on him before, more of a terrible cruel monster killing kids and a looming force, an infection spread through all of the games, not really a character in his own right. This video has made me realize and think about him like this a lot more, this hypocritical, egotistical, manipulative man, full of over confidence and ill will. (Pun not intended) William has a surprising depth of character, the way he treats the kids should and animatronixs in such a dehumanized way says so much about him. He's a robotic genius, and he fancies himself a scientist as well. God, he's such a pathetic lover lying hypocrite it's great. He presents himself as this great powerful force, so smart and unbeatable, but he's not. He's a shambling husk, pee paw afton barely able to function, he's an idiot who has trapped himself or let himself get trapped with full confidence he will be fine until the spring locks trigger or the fire starts. Basicallwhay im saying is that this video makes me want to study his brain under a microscope
I always imagined that William loved his children, but only when they are extensions to him and fuel his ego. As soon as they become opposition, he completely flips to having it out for them and actively trying to kill them. (i.e. Michael and movie Vanessa) I feel that also goes for any character William could've loved, including the missing children.
Also I fully agree that William's confidence is just a front he uses to appear more clever and intimidating. Control is something insanely important to him, and being the "most capable" person in a room is one way to gain that
not diagnosing him, just that he shares a lot of symptoms of NPD. including what you said, the kids being an extension of him. only fuelling his ego in whatever way he wants.
The laughter during "it's still me" could also be because of how proud he is of what he's become. Not only did his creations trap the children's souls, the Springtrap suit effectively made him immortal. If we believe MatPat's theory of that suit being Afton's personal favourite then it makes it even more possible that he's genuinely proud of changing like this
Id say your point about afton appreciating narrative symmetry is almost explicitly stated considering he literally has a whole speech about it in the movie "SYMMETRY, MY FRIEND!"
The "Bittersweet, but fitting..." line is honestly one of my favorites, because it definitely adds a further layer of nuance to William I feel. Most lines are bloodthirsty or savage, but that is the rare time he expresses some level of brooding or remorse. Which I feel is an aspect of William most neglect to acknowledge or even entertain the thought of existing.
Something small you seem to have missed is how William's "you may not recognise me at first" line is also stolen from Mike, where he says "at first they didn't recognise me, but then they thought I was you" (might not be 1-to-1 what he said). This is basically just further hammering home that William was telling Mike who he is and also maybe taunting him, so it's not super significant, but it's a neat little consistency of his line stealing habbit. Also: "We're going to come find you"- William, Special Delivery "I'm going to come find you"- Mike
God, I even made that comparison in a previous video, I can't believe I didn't mention it here! Thank you for pointing that out, I absolutely agree with your assessment as well. It's like William is putting a code into his words that only Michael will pick up on.
William really do be like, "Your words? ...MY words." Michael can't even make a cry for help and/or quiet condemnation without William taking it as bluffing fodder, SMH.
I always saw Afton saying “I knew it was a lie the moment I heard it” and “how can I resist a promise such as this?” as him knowing that he was going to die and he wants to die. If I’m being honest, I think Afton is in excruciating pain and is trying to act like he isn’t. He has “died” twice, his body has been impaled, burned, torn apart. In my eyes, I think he wants the easy way out of the pain. Tying into the idea that he thinks he’ll be fine, maybe he believes he’ll come back stronger and in less pain than before.
I think the thing about William kind of hesitating after finally going hands on against his children, killing Michael in FNAF6, can be seen in the movie too, with how William stumbles back after thinking he did a "killing blow" to Vanessa not because it hurts him but because there was nothing fullfilled or "poetic" after killing her like compared to how he had done with the animatronics I think that's soooo cool to spot across continuities if that's the case, just "that was easier than I thought it would be..." playing in his head after shanking her
William's voice lines is the reason why I will never agree with a theory that paints William as a man who was pushed to the edge. He was always a sociopathic narcissist, that's probably why two of his kids got done in by his creations. He was probably the one pushing for the springlocks to be a feature, because no sane person would keep something that dangerous around. And his arrogance probably also killed Elizabeth, since he didn't think it was possible for her to disobey and go to Circus Baby anyway, so he didn't put any safety precautions to prevent his daughter from getting murdered
Honestly i think that he made the springlocks because he was so egotistical and liked attention that he made the springlocks so delicate and complex so that either he or someone under his supervision could use his suits (again goes to show how he likes control and power over others).
Conflating two real disorders (narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy, which is a subtype of Antisocial personality disorder) with an evil person is harmful and ableist. You can’t just slap mental health labels on a character, armchair diagnosing them, without considering the real world consequences of what you are doing, which is stigmatising an entire group of people as evil for existing. People with ASPD and NPD aren’t inherently abusive, they are personality disorders that are disabling and often come from trauma.
@@promeneuzivotu117 kinda reminds me of the comment someone left on some video about how scientists make complex ideas as complex as possible as an ego thing or whatever "Smart people can make complex things simplified for others, while people who pretend to be smart make them as complex as possible" (incredibly paraphrased quote from memory, dont crucify me lol)
@@n_art_cissistYeah idk about that, most of the narcissistic people you encounter in life are surely going to screw you up in one way or another, plus, it really isn’t that much of an association but rather a fact: William Afton has been proven many times to share the exact same logical thinking that of a narcissist, especially with the fact that he essentially fucked everything up by himself for himself. If you get what I’m trying to say…
The line “That was easier than I thought it would be…” makes me think that he thought it would be harder because he figured out that Micheal is reanimated like him. As he is a scientist he likely had a theory about if someone became like Micheal did, reanimated but tied to only their body, as he is tied to the suit and his own flesh and others are tied only to the metal. The fact it is easy to kill you as easy it is to kill a normal person is possibly a dent his ego of thinking he is invincible as he possibly thought about his own flesh being a weakness and his possible theory about what a person’s remnant being tied only to their body would be like.
AR isn't the only time he quoted Michael's monologue. In Fnaf 6, his line "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me." is reminiscent of Michael's line "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was you."
Yapping abt William Afton’s character is so interesting. His character in general is very interesting, I like to think about how his personality, and mindset is. He’s a rlly clever character, way ahead of his time honestly. William has been my hyper fixation for years now and i genuinely love talking about his character
You gotta be, like, my favorite person making FNAF videos right now. Everyone else is trying to pinpoint the lore and exactly what’s going on, but I personally see solving the plot as only the first step. The way you assemble what we know for sure about this story and use it to put the characters under a microscope? EXACTLY how I like tackling FNAF, absolutely brilliant!
@@protol5683 I’ve loved fnaf from the beginning, and the first couple years had incredibly interesting and immersive lore and community content, but right now it feels like it’s at a standstill and no one seems to bring anything new or interesting to the table. So stuff like this is just what I need to fuel my obsession with
@@CallofFreaky I feel just the same, stuff like Glitchtrap and The Mimic don't feel much like developments in a story as much as they are new bullet points to jot down on the latest iteration of the FNAF timeline. Cassie and Gregory's friendship seems like it COULD be an exception, like I can imagine there'd be a lot of intrigue in exactly what their friendship is like and how the experiences they go through will effect it. But we're being starved for information on exactly how these two usually interact so they can break the story up and sell it across 2 more sequels and 10 more books.
HARD AGREE. discovered the channel yesterday and i’ve been binging ever since. i love to hear “waffling” from someone who very obviously loves and cares about the series. really only watch NotRealName NotAtAll for theories and lore discussions. they do a similar thing of walking us through their thought process if you want to go check out those videos :)
I think that "Fascinating, wha the have become" is specifically refers to Molten Freddy. He knows Elizabeth is Baby. He knows Chrlie in the Puppet. He knows the MCI kids are in the Funtimes (if you believe MoltenMXI ofc). What he doesn't know is that the Funtimes have used his own discovery, the scooper, to become something they weren't and escaoed th prison he put them into. Also please continue doing this shit it's addicting i love this
I like the picture that this paint William as, I know you wrote that this isn't Willcare propaganda, but I would call this something like... Willtwistedcare? The idea that William might have actually gave a shit about his children, but his way of caring was incredibly twisted and fucked up to where he both sees trying to kill his son as father-son bonding but also is sad over his death at least a bit. Would work with a lot of CC dying first theories. EDIT: Maybe he's even a bit PROUD of Michael for standing against him.
I absolutely agree with this, especially if you consider (the questionably canon??) Dittophobia story, wherein he really really has a fucked up view of what "taking care of someone" and "not being alone" is by how he talks to Rory. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying in that speech, because it tracks with CC and FNAF4: he watches CC all the time through Fredbear and talks to him and so on but he apparently never steps in to help with Michael's bullying or the scary situations CC finds himself in, thinking that "being monitored 24/7" somehow equates to "being taken care of" i.e. proper parenting which its N O T at all William and parenting is a subject for another 50 minute video TBH
@@EpicFroggz NotRealName NotAtAll has an interesting video on how Afton's less than stellar parenting had disastrous consequences on his kids titled "How William Ruined his Kids' Lives (His Favorite Toys)"
I've been a believer that William did have *some* care for his kids but he went about it in some of the worst possible ways. He gave C.C. a Fredbear Plush that he used to give advice and encouragement to navigate Michael's pranks and tried to keep Elizabeth away from Circus Baby knowing what the robot was created for. Signs that he did have some measure of love for (at least 2 of) his kids. But, there's an element of neglect in his parenting. He doesn't seem to try to directly stop Michael from messing with C.C. in any capacity and all it took was for Elizabeth to get a few seconds alone with Circus Baby for her fate to be sealed (instead of just.....not bringing Elizabeth to CBPW or even having the built the darn thing in the first place). WillTwistedCare is definitely a new favorite name for this theory now. Much appreciated 👍
@@Takejiro24 the problem I have with this video is that I disagree with the idea of William always being completely fucked up from the very start. He was twisted and a narcissist from the start yes, but not "murder children" insane from the start. I like the idea that although a shitty person, he only really. became TRULY evil after his son's death.
“That was _easier_ than I thought it would be…” tells me that he is disappointed, perhaps, in Michael’s abilities. Michael defeated him once before, nearly burned him to death, and now that Michael and William are coming back to blows William wins? And so easily too? It’s almost as if he expected more from Michael. Not in a taunting “is that really all you have?” but more of a disappointed “I expected more out of you.” It gives me scolding father vibes, a sort of OmniMan beating the hell out of Invincible moment. Maybe in a way William was hoping Michael would be better, a normal father wishes for his son to surpass him, or (more likely) maybe Will was hoping Mike would have made for a better hunt. I believe that William, despite the fact he enjoyed and found satisfaction in killing Michael (twas “bittersweet, but fitting”), was maybe hoping his son would be better. Despite how sociopathic William is (note that I said sociopathy, not psychopathy), deep down William wanted more from his son. Be it for his own sadistic habits or for his paternal desires, he had hoped his son would have put up a better fight. I want to make it clear that I also 100% with Bonk Boy’s takes on the voice lines. Also, I hope that I don’t have to say that I do not empathize with William. I pity him, so I guess I have a bit of sympathy, but it is of disdain. No WillCare from me. I simply just love to find alternate or parallel/coinciding meanings to things. Language is a very powerful tool, and the more meaning you can put behind a phrase the more power and characterization you can put within the phrase… Yes, my English teachers do love me
Saying it was easier than he thought can also just be him taunting Michael, basically implying Michael is weak when he was all "im going to come find you."
“Bittersweet, but fitting…” tells me one thing in particular: William knows he just killed his son, and although he does feel a bit of remorse he also feels pleasure from it. Willy A. just realized that a part of him, somewhere deep down, still held _some_ form of affection for Michael yet he also feels satisfied. The “but fitting…” section of his line explains the ‘sweet’ in the bittersweet emotions: Willy got revenge after Michael tried to burn him within Fazbear Frights, as well as him still holding resentment after Michael accidentally killed William’s other son, Garret/Evan/Chris (the name depending on the continuity). William got his revenge, and feels that it is both fitting and deserving for Michael. On top of that, there is the poeticism that Bonk Boy talks about. William Afton appreciates being poetic, and so although he feels bittersweet about murdering his son he also finds it satisfyingly poetic that he has now (directly/indirectly) killed all of his children In short, William Afton’s “Bittersweet, but fitting…” line tells us that he still holds a form of affection for Michael (whatever form it is) but overall found pleasure in revenge and satisfaction because of what Michael did to the Bite of ‘83 victim. I want to make it clear that I also 100% with Bonk Boy’s takes on the voice lines. Also, I hope that I don’t have to say that I do not empathize with William. I pity him, so I guess I have a bit of sympathy, but it is of disdain. No WillCare here. I simply just love to find alternate or parallel/coinciding meanings to things. Language is a very powerful tool, and the more meaning you can put behind a phrase the more power and characterization you can put within the phrase… Yes, my English teachers do love me
It’s amazing how well this analysis aligns with Afton’s depictions across the fnaf books. As deranged as those things get, he remains relatively consistent throughout to the point where people were able to identify him in Dittophobia based on how he spoke alone. It may not interest you but I’d kill for someone to do an extended analysis of him in them.
" You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you: it's still me" I feel is a double meta reference. The first part referencing Michael Afton at the end of Sister Location ("They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was you"), and "it's still me" a reference to the Golden Freddy "It's me".
PJ's performance has always been my favourite casting for the series of FNAF, I think. Ever since Sister Location first released where we got our first main line FNAF game fully voiced... ah- save Funtime Foxy I guess lol. But ever since then, he's been my favourite voice actor for this series, giving alot of life to William, aswell as Michael. Could it easily be bias because he's Australian and I never really hear any Aussies voice characters in games I like? Perhaps JKHJGHGFHSD But his delivery and performance is very damn inspiring. Gods, I do wish if William appears again, they cast PJ yet again. Especially if Steelwool creates the game they wanna make that's set at the beginning. Surely, they'd let the man who gave character to William, voice him again in his beginnings? Whatever happens, I hope to hear him again in the future.
Somehow I never read much into the “bittersweet” line, but I think you and ponds-of-ink are right. The delivery sounds heavier at the end, like he would rather it hadn’t come to this. Honestly your analyzation and storytelling during this part gave me chills
Me personally, I've always been really intrigued by his various designs. Mostly about the 'corpse' stuffed away inside the suit. More importantly how it doesn't actually look like a real human corpse at all. I know you've just talked about his voice for over half an hour, but I also think certain parts of his visual design add a lot to his character in displaying WHAT he is. That being a MONSTER with a HUMAN mind. Now, look, Scott himself has admitted that he struggles to model humans, let alone corpses which could explain the weird remains within Springtrap. But I personally believe that works in his favour rather than against it AND the other option is a lot less fun compared to what I believe. Starting off from no particular point, I like how his head is really the only recognisable part of his former human body. The way his flesh is there in clumps and strands. My personal headcanon is that the agony/remnant within the suit and within him has made it so that his organic parts adapt to the suit and make the suit its new body and furthermore GROW into it. Have you ever looked at the insides of Springtrap before? The way the flesh coils around the mechanical parts and clings onto it? It's kind of like vines that grow around things like fences or trees and how they coil around things and adapt to their environment. It gives the impression that the human body is gone and the actual organic LIVING part of Afton is using the suit as its new body. Its new "HOST." This can most prominently be seen in the 'ankle guts' where it coils around the ankle joints and even grows along the foot like toe tendons, allowing his living self to manipulate the suit movement. This idea is kept in Pizzeria Simulator. Now, look, I don't think Scraptrap has the BEST design in all of FNAF history. Not even close. But I do think that it stays consistent on how his remains work. They have grown even more, the flesh is much more prominent and even grows in thicker clumps. The whole theory that Afton's organic parts 'adapt' to their new conditions could explain why the skull looks so different. As goofy and Jimmy Neutron as it looks, it clearly shows EVOLUTION. His skull has stretched and bloated to fit the suit better and we can see this begin to take place in the FNAF 3 Afton skull where the mechanical parts are notably stretching out parts of the face. He has grown lips and teeth and even BONE EARS. Like I said before, my headcanon for why this can happen is simple: the agony/remnant allows for this to happen. We see Michael come back to life after having all of his insides and presumably his skeleton scooped out thanks to the scooper's remnant injection, so why is it too far fetched to say that remnant can create LITERAL new life by growing parts back? Afton DIED, but his body isn't really DEAD. It CAN'T die by normal means, just like the animatronics. In the Fazbear Frights book story "The Man in Room 1280", he is literally a corpse that WON'T DIE. This could explain how he can speak in FNAF 6, but not FNAF 3. In FNAF 3, all we can really hear are faint groans of pain, but no audible speech. But in FNAF 6, he has fully regained the ability to speak, but evidently his voice isn't quite right either as heard in his gravelly and very strained sounding voice, like it rips at his vocal chords to make a sound. But still, it shows that the suit is becoming more and more his REAL body. Like he is becoming one with the suit. This corpse design is even consistent in Burntrap. The skull is misshapen and deformed thanks to the suit, he now has all of his teeth and we can see the flesh literally in the middle of GROWING in the new endoskeleton, presumably originating from the head. It stretches down and grabs onto other parts of the suit. Like growing vines. All this to say, Afton's corpse design is kind of brilliant by accident. At least according to me. It shows how much less of a man he is and how much more of a monster he is, no longer really even having a human body. His design in each game gets progressively less and less like a human body. The original Springtrap had more human proportions, but by Security Breach, he's so much taller, thinner and NOT HUMAN. He still has the human mind, but he is far from being a real human and much more closely resembles a MONSTER. A force of nature. A beast in need of slaying (over and over again). His voice is important, but SEEING the monster is just as important as hearing it. Anyway, thanks for reading all this. I'm surprised anyone did, but then again... this is about over-analysing stuff, right? :D "He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil." - Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1983
recently stumbled on “overthinking Michael Afton’s monologue, and ended up watching all your videos. finally, someone who is truly obsessed with these two purple fuckers. thank you for another great analysis
That and that Mike was likely the one who set fire to Fazbear's Frights in FNAF 3 which could have killed William. This one line pretty much confirms to me that, yes, we play as Michael in FFPS and it tells so much about their characters.
@@Takejiro24 i know what you mean but rather than just establishing a relationship with both characters, it is hard to deny what their actions have in common with one another.
I just love how many a few of these reads i recognize from the movie. The "bitter sweet , but fitting" applies perfectly to afton stabbing vanessa and i think i did the pointing di caprio meme when you said narrative "symmetry"
William's voicelines show very well the multiple layers he has and the developement into a serial killer (which is actually very similar to irl serial killers). Deep down he's vunerable but it's covered up by cocky and violent behaviour and mental problems and then this is masked under the image of a calm business man. Then over time the mask gets harder and harder to keep on, to pretend being "normal". In the SL intro he's wearing the mask, coming out as a cold and calm man whereas underneath he's violent, self-centred and sadistic. Still sometimes the innermost layer, deeply broken, shines through, no matter how much he tries to hide it. He's very interesting from a psychological perspective Also if you happen to see this, can you make a video overthinking Henry's voicelines (at least the monologues in completation ending and insanity ending)?
I very seldom will directly interact with a TH-cam video, but I’ve got to tell you, this is genuinely one of if not the best character studies on William Afton. Your takes on him are so set in the reality of what the games showcase while also staying true to the direction Scott and PJ took the mannerisms of his voice lines, it’s admirable to see you research and write something you’re very clearly heavily passionate about. Your content is out of this world, Bonk Boy. Look forward to the next video!
the voiceover is so clean and the editing is nice. Also the fact that this feels like a normal documentary but with the random memes sprinkled in is unexpected but quite funny
at the end of "she can dispense ice cream" i can just imagine Afton leaning forward, eagerly, as if sharing a secret, you know? like, hes just. so proud of it.
oml he's 100% the time to do that: phone in hand legs up laying on his stomach hand on his cheek twirling his hair swooning at the latest accusations about him oh he's ONE HUNDRED PERCENT a giggler isnt he? YESSS NEW HEADCANON! henry: "some children were murdered!" william: "ooooh! what happened?" henry: "idk but their DEAD man " **shows photos** william: "OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH GOREEE!!!"
I would love to see your takes and analysis of circus baby’s voice lines!! Her voice will always be my fav out of all the characters and I think it’s so interesting how she’s so manipulative like her father but never seems impulsive…always so calculated and in control.
Now this, this the type of FNaF analysis that deserves a 50 minute video. Keep making these insanely specific videos, folllow your bliss, never let them tell you otherwise, absolute king behavior.
I love this analysis so much! The fact William’s voice is influenced by the idea of a snake oil salesman is so cool because I personally see his smugness coming from his idea that he’s getting away with actions despite others’ suspicions rather than from the lack of it, he thinks so smart and resilient that any evidence is circumstantial at best and can manipulate his way out of any corner he’s backed into
"You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me" said with stifled laughter is William throwing Mike's own words back at him; "They didn't recognize me at first, but then, they thought I was you". To me it reads as making a mockery of Mike's promise of "I'm going to come find you", like "yeah you found me, and you're powerless".
lol no, i'm not american, and where i live "waffle" is used a lot as slang, havent seen pulp fiction so thought thats what u were talking about, cool video@@bonkboy4386
Personally I believed william always struggled with satisfaction for example even though he part owns one of the most successful entertainment Food business. He's still not satisfied no matter what he does but he still can be prideful. For short I believe that William puts up the ACT that he's a satisfied as he can be but in reality every moment and every second is always the thing back in his mind telling him he's not good enough or or you're a failure etc so what did he try to do satisfy his own ego.
William has to be one of my most favorite villains of all time, and I couldn't be more thankful for PJ Haywood and his amazing performances to give that amazing character an amazing voice. I also like how slightly different Scraptrap's and Special Delivery Springtrap's voices are. Really nice touch PS: Found your channel a few months ago and I gotta admit, I'm a huge fan of your videos and channel. So when I discovered that you recently uploaded a new video, let alone one analyzing William's voice and PJ's performance, it instantly made my day. Keep up the great work
I love your voice analysis videos so much.. One other voice actor from fnaf I've always been a fan of was Circus Baby's. I think what really set it for me was when she says, "I know it was an accident", it just unlocked a whole lot of depth between Micheal and Elizabeth's relationship just with the way she says it.
I really adore how you dive so deep into Afton's theatrics. Its not something I've thought about before but this undead crusty rabbit love putting on a show. Amazing how much we can get from a voice.
This video is purely the reason why I subscribed to you. Like, wow, you completely dissected William’s character to the bone with the analysis you put in, it’s so well done and you have put so much heart into it. As a criminology student, I appreciate any tie-in’s to anything about crime because it doesn’t just show how twisted a person may be, but it makes you understand what made them get to that point; with the points you made with William, Michael, and also the children and his methods of what he does, I find it really intriguing that what he says reflects so much yet so less of his character and his actions leading him to the kind of person that he is. I also love how you picked up so closely on slight mannerisms that William portrays in his lines, since it gives off more than meets the eye and its details like those which give me a certain “fascination”. I know it seems like I’m rambling a bit, but I love your style of analysis and I can tell that this series is something that you love working on. Keep up the amazing work, I won’t forget this for sure ❤
I totally get hyper fixating on an actors voice, happened to me with a broadway actor who only did like 2 musicals. I’d love to get PJ back as afton for future content as well! Never be ashamed to waffle about an VA’s great performance
37:03 I think it actually makes sense for AR Spring Trap to be more furious, he’s the version of himself when he first became Spring Trap, he’s still bitter about being cornered and forced into a situation he didn’t want, and he may be more himself in the suit, but I doubt he appreciates the agonizing death he went through. He’s basically high off rage in the beginning, and as time goes by he settles himself back into a more controlled personality.
i think you did a really good job here. i would argue you are a very inteligent person, i don't often come across people that can pick up subtle cues in someones voice without them having to be made overtly obvious. its a rare quality to se in other people, and i apreciate you for it. again, i think you did a fantastic job and have very clear understaning and reasoning abilities. I wish you alot of success in your future, and i hope all is well for you in the present.
The way I imagine it "That was easier than I thought it would be." also shows off Williams extreme ego. Michael is HIS son, and he's so great, an immortal mastermind killer, yet it was so easy to kill someone so closely related to him.
Loved this video. There’s a lot of to every piece of dialogue in FNAF but it’s so nice to be able to carefully craft this character of William Afton that has been such a crucial part of this series for so long.
Picking apart the acting, emotion, and directing decisions of these voice lines is something fresh. I love these videos and what they mean for the LOOOORE
Afton probably talks that way, in the part where hes like "you may not recognize me at first" because Michael possibly tried to kill him in FNaF 3. Michael is in shock he lived and looks like this, or thats what William imagines.
I cannot believe you actually uploaded an almost 50 minute video on this man. The autism is real. Though..i really respect it. 😌 Finished the video and this was such a good watch holy shit. I think it's honestly really cool how you went into speech patterns and whatnot. Especially how you got into the intricacies of it all. Its so..fascinating. Also on the bit about narrative symmetry. Even though its kinda loosely related..i do think it's interesting that "symmetry" itself is something afton himself, says in his big grandiose speech at the end of the movie. Just something i though i'd point out. But all in all, bravo.The dedication is amazing. I absolutely loved this. And definitely will be coming back to it as someone who loves the character. 🤩
@@bonkboy4386 From how much research you've done on PJ's VO work (concerning fnaf)..i'm sure it is LMAO. But damn, I respect it a lot. Your video on it was honestly a joy to watch. I know you've been writing this one up for quite a bit now. And it came your amazing!
Bro, aftons character potrayed through his voice is so nicely done. It reminds me of the joker. They are both similar in the way they act toward life. Treating it like a show. How the show must go on. The villain has to be the villain, so i will continue. Type feel. Its nice to see other people who also appreciate his character. And bonk is the harley quinn of afton lmao
Never thought I would stuck to such massive yapping about a single character but here we are!! I loved this-I love everything about this, specially the interpretations for Scraptrap’s voice lines where he sounds a bit ‘gloomy’ or even fatherly. And the smile board things goooshhh I literally SEE the grins William makes when he’s speaking; amazing how that method works 🎉 Got the zoomies throughout this whole video, it’s just exactly how I picture William: he’s a narcissistic father who grudges the idea of being questioned and deceived (even by his own children) yet when HE does those things, there is no issue because he is the one doing so. Such a character; incredible how such curt voice lines carry such subtle characteristics, creating a perfect villain. Keep up the good work! These analysis are astounding!!
I just have to say how much I ADORE these videos. I've had these kinda ideas bouncing in my head for ages I'm sososo happy to see them layed out so clearly like this
I think that William expresses disappointment in the line “that was easier than I thought it would be…” because he expects Michael, as his son/tool, to be able to put up a good fight against him. An easy victory reflects poorly on William, as William only sees Michael as an extension of himself, not as an individual.
his va did such an incredible job, and i love that even the va (and scott!) didn't try to make him too cool, he's a loser. he hurts people, he's not cool or interesting really, he's socially awkward and a bad person, and if you talked to him irl, he would probably be super annoying. he's full of himself, sure, but he doesn't really have a good reason to be and i think in irl, he'd be that annoying coworker who knows everything you don't, and is just /so/ much better than you.
show but dont tell. tell but dont show. fnaf mastered both and never did them at the same time we were used to seeing William in the minigames, so hearing a voice gives us much more to work with when figuring out a character
27:35 "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you: it's still me." sounds almost like someone who's genuinely excited to reconnect with someone who doesn't recognize him.
the emphasis on fear is due to agony, the energy that sparks possession of steel. This emphasis on suffering and fear is the cause of possession and hes attempting to leech off of it and enduce as much as he can. Quite litterally 'it is your fear that sustains me.'
Honestly this video changed my mind on the voices ( partly ) , I'm not exactly a big fan of the voices since they really don't help with FNAF's grasp on horror, whenever i hear a kellen goff animatronic call out to me from the hallways It breaks the immerson and makes me think " i'm supposed to take this seriously? " It also just works to steal from baby, one of the things that made baby stand out as an antagonist was the fact ( for a while at least ) she was the only animatronic that could talk and she'd use that to her advantage to manipulate her victims
I loved both this analysis and your one on Michael! There are so many cues we can examine to get a better look at fnaf’s characters despite its fairly cryptic storytelling, and the voice acting is a great avenue for that! I really enjoyed your analysis (and that of ponds-of-ink) and I hope to see more of your thoughts on the series in the future :)
What I love about this video is how everyone knew this about William. Anyone who heard this little thing would just assume that’s his personality, but they wouldn’t know WHY they think he’s a smug lying piece of shit, they could just “tell”. Thanks for this video, which breaks down how the game communicates with the player that William is a piece of shit through just his voice.
As a kid I use to be most scared of Withered Bonnie, but when he got voicelines, I found him kind of endearing. No he's one of my favorites. Withered Chica has been bumped to #1 scariest animatronic now. Something about her jaw deeply disturbs me, and she's not endearing like Withered Bonnie is. I always imagine Withered Bonnie talking to Ruined Roxie. They handle their lack of face situation so differently; it would be entertaining to see them interact.
Video Suggestion: Afton seen through the lens of an 80s slasher. You mentioned how his speech and demeanor are very influenced by Hannibal Lecter and Candy Man but his methods and actions are like Freddy Kruger (tbh, I’d not be shocked if the name of the series is in direct reference to Kruger) and his over all physical appearance is something like a mix of Jason Vorhees’s ‘hulking undead monster’ and Chucky’s ‘kid focused thing gone evil’.
Hilarious how William showboats about his victory over Michael with all his "Le irony" yapping, but ultimately he's still trapped in the pizzeria, so he'll probably still be cooked on Sunday
The lines that springtrap "stole" from nightmare/Fredbear could be the last words that the child that possessed Fredbear heard from Afton. Considering you can actually hear a child toned voice underneath (especially Fredbear).
YES!!! You put it into words, like, everything, so eloquently *chef's kiss* And the analysis of AR Spring's voice lines was appreciated since I hadn't really listened to those before, even if they're dubiously canon its still his voice, PJ is still the character so, they're super interesting too! Esp. how you said "fear" is just like "being lied to" in that its one of the things he hates feeling the most, that is so TRUE, perfect parallel there. Just 11/10 video, I'll be coming back to this one like I do the Michael's monologue one!! P.S. I think its tragic that Scott/SW brought back every voice actor for HW2 except PJ, like... Even if not lore tapes from Michael or William laying around the SL levels, they put in Pigpatch instead of Scraptrap like. ????? HW2 is an amazing game but *william voice* it could have been so much m o r e
At this point I'm wondering if it was a blessing in disguise that Scraptrap wasn't in HW2, as he probably would've just been in the Helpy minigame with no voice lines like the other animatronics in that minigame, which I think would be kind of a waste of bringing the character back... But maybe I'm just coping. Thank you for the kind words :))
@@EpicFroggzI'm with you. I'm like one of the few people on the planet who loves Scraptrap's design, and I kinda wanna see it back with all the indications of rushing the designs gone.
It’s possible William isn’t stealing lines from other characters but they actually stole from him first. Mainly with regards to the Ultimate Custom Night lines, since that’s his own nightmare and they are his victims, they may be regurgitating things he said to them when he killed them. And so they are using those lines against him as a cruel irony. But in AR, that’s just William in his natural habitat, being a creep, saying his creep lines creepily.
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18:24 gave me the mental imagine of William saying "I know what's Henry trying to pull, but he's too much of a *bitch* to do it" followed by a jumpcut to William screaming on the fire
drawing this
i will also draw this.
Links?
I just tried to imagine how it exactly would sound like 😭
Please tell if y'all ever drew this and where to find if posted!! :D
Afton's taste for "narrative symmetry" is almost directly confirmed in the FNAF movie when he tells Mike "This is perfect. First I killed your brother... now I kill you, symmetry, my friend!"
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First I rizzed your brother, now I rizz you!
@BlackOxBenny this is a 5D reply to a comment bruh
@@gaminganimators7000 sighs.
@@gaminganimators7000 drown gen Z and alpha, we can start over
So basically what I got from this is William was a theatre kid
EXACTLY!
@@bonkboy4386 waos
Just like Matpat..
MOTHER--- I was about to write that as well, but you were literally the first comment on the list XD
Definitely he had to be some theatre brat
You know, this reminds me of Help Wanted, where Glitchtrap dances around in front of the stuffed Animatronics after forcing them to "Sing and Dance". It is so... Look at me, see how I screwed everything up.
2:40 that subtle "is he stupid?" freed Jonkler from my mental aslume
I wanna point out that, with the establishment made with the "Bittersweet, but fitting," that Afton isn't quite fond of killing Michael, the line "That was easier than I thought it would be." also gives me the vibe of a double meaning. Like yes, it was easier as in it wasn't much of a challenge to do, but also it was easier in that... it was far easier for him to decide to and go through with killing his own *son* than he thought it would be.
I am fascinated by just how many different angles people are able to approach these lines with. But wow, this one is so good, I love double meanings omg. Afton only realising just how corrupt he's become once he's killed the last of his kin??? YES!!! IT'S BRILLIANT!!!
I agree that In a Way. William never really stopped seeing his Own Kids as well His Children.
He Probably Hates Michael non existing guts,Its hard to Tell what he thinks of Elizabeth but There was probably Some affection there and His Interaction With CC in Fnaf4 was rather Neglectful,
And He is Straight up Abusive towards the MCI in their Animatronic Shells in the Movie and Vanessa.
But he never seems to Disregard them as Just his Tools(well,except in the novels but still)
But I think that It’s rather Ironic and Fitting that The Man that destroyed so many childhoods and Families in Universe was a Father himself.
this is so fucked up i ufcking love fnaf can we get a i always come back in the chat
@@lemonqvartzI always come back
I think he was also expecting Michael to be stronger, as he himself raised the kid. Will was also probably the type to perceive his actions as "Tough love," and rant about how Mike's suffering would "build character" instead of just traumatize him.
"For someone who hates being lied to, Afton sure does struggle being honest himself" You've done it, you've sold me on William Afton as a character. I never had many thoughts on him before, more of a terrible cruel monster killing kids and a looming force, an infection spread through all of the games, not really a character in his own right. This video has made me realize and think about him like this a lot more, this hypocritical, egotistical, manipulative man, full of over confidence and ill will. (Pun not intended) William has a surprising depth of character, the way he treats the kids should and animatronixs in such a dehumanized way says so much about him. He's a robotic genius, and he fancies himself a scientist as well. God, he's such a pathetic lover lying hypocrite it's great. He presents himself as this great powerful force, so smart and unbeatable, but he's not. He's a shambling husk, pee paw afton barely able to function, he's an idiot who has trapped himself or let himself get trapped with full confidence he will be fine until the spring locks trigger or the fire starts. Basicallwhay im saying is that this video makes me want to study his brain under a microscope
I always imagined that William loved his children, but only when they are extensions to him and fuel his ego. As soon as they become opposition, he completely flips to having it out for them and actively trying to kill them. (i.e. Michael and movie Vanessa) I feel that also goes for any character William could've loved, including the missing children.
Yeah, he probably cared but in his own fucked up way.
Also I fully agree that William's confidence is just a front he uses to appear more clever and intimidating. Control is something insanely important to him, and being the "most capable" person in a room is one way to gain that
not diagnosing him, just that he shares a lot of symptoms of NPD. including what you said, the kids being an extension of him. only fuelling his ego in whatever way he wants.
William never cared for the missing children
You not reading the novels is showing btw@@bellslimes
The laughter during "it's still me" could also be because of how proud he is of what he's become. Not only did his creations trap the children's souls, the Springtrap suit effectively made him immortal. If we believe MatPat's theory of that suit being Afton's personal favourite then it makes it even more possible that he's genuinely proud of changing like this
Id say your point about afton appreciating narrative symmetry is almost explicitly stated considering he literally has a whole speech about it in the movie
"SYMMETRY, MY FRIEND!"
Yea they really hammer it home in the movie, it's awesome :D but the brilliant part is, it was in the games all along!!
man, i think he'd be pretty thrilled to know that his corpse is going to be symmetrical when he gets springlocked
The "Bittersweet, but fitting..." line is honestly one of my favorites, because it definitely adds a further layer of nuance to William I feel. Most lines are bloodthirsty or savage, but that is the rare time he expresses some level of brooding or remorse. Which I feel is an aspect of William most neglect to acknowledge or even entertain the thought of existing.
Something small you seem to have missed is how William's "you may not recognise me at first" line is also stolen from Mike, where he says "at first they didn't recognise me, but then they thought I was you" (might not be 1-to-1 what he said). This is basically just further hammering home that William was telling Mike who he is and also maybe taunting him, so it's not super significant, but it's a neat little consistency of his line stealing habbit.
Also: "We're going to come find you"- William, Special Delivery
"I'm going to come find you"- Mike
God, I even made that comparison in a previous video, I can't believe I didn't mention it here! Thank you for pointing that out, I absolutely agree with your assessment as well. It's like William is putting a code into his words that only Michael will pick up on.
William really do be like,
"Your words? ...MY words."
Michael can't even make a cry for help and/or quiet condemnation without William taking it as bluffing fodder, SMH.
I always saw Afton saying “I knew it was a lie the moment I heard it” and “how can I resist a promise such as this?” as him knowing that he was going to die and he wants to die. If I’m being honest, I think Afton is in excruciating pain and is trying to act like he isn’t. He has “died” twice, his body has been impaled, burned, torn apart. In my eyes, I think he wants the easy way out of the pain. Tying into the idea that he thinks he’ll be fine, maybe he believes he’ll come back stronger and in less pain than before.
*plays Terrible Things by Axie*
I think the thing about William kind of hesitating after finally going hands on against his children, killing Michael in FNAF6, can be seen in the movie too, with how William stumbles back after thinking he did a "killing blow" to Vanessa not because it hurts him but because there was nothing fullfilled or "poetic" after killing her like compared to how he had done with the animatronics
I think that's soooo cool to spot across continuities if that's the case, just "that was easier than I thought it would be..." playing in his head after shanking her
Overthinking that one funny undying British and later on American man who killed some kids voicelines for 49 minutes??? sign me up
He's much more than just a human.
He's become one with his fursona.
He's too powerful!
His fursona will one day be his downfall, just like the rest of us
@@OctavianMCLWho is "us"?
@@guerillagorilla4423 there are many
@guerillagorilla4423 idk furries ig?
William's voice lines is the reason why I will never agree with a theory that paints William as a man who was pushed to the edge. He was always a sociopathic narcissist, that's probably why two of his kids got done in by his creations.
He was probably the one pushing for the springlocks to be a feature, because no sane person would keep something that dangerous around. And his arrogance probably also killed Elizabeth, since he didn't think it was possible for her to disobey and go to Circus Baby anyway, so he didn't put any safety precautions to prevent his daughter from getting murdered
Honestly i think that he made the springlocks because he was so egotistical and liked attention that he made the springlocks so delicate and complex so that either he or someone under his supervision could use his suits (again goes to show how he likes control and power over others).
Conflating two real disorders (narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy, which is a subtype of Antisocial personality disorder) with an evil person is harmful and ableist. You can’t just slap mental health labels on a character, armchair diagnosing them, without considering the real world consequences of what you are doing, which is stigmatising an entire group of people as evil for existing. People with ASPD and NPD aren’t inherently abusive, they are personality disorders that are disabling and often come from trauma.
@@promeneuzivotu117 kinda reminds me of the comment someone left on some video about how scientists make complex ideas as complex as possible as an ego thing or whatever
"Smart people can make complex things simplified for others, while people who pretend to be smart make them as complex as possible" (incredibly paraphrased quote from memory, dont crucify me lol)
@@n_art_cissistYeah idk about that, most of the narcissistic people you encounter in life are surely going to screw you up in one way or another, plus, it really isn’t that much of an association but rather a fact: William Afton has been proven many times to share the exact same logical thinking that of a narcissist, especially with the fact that he essentially fucked everything up by himself for himself. If you get what I’m trying to say…
@@n_art_cissist oh shush
The line “That was easier than I thought it would be…” makes me think that he thought it would be harder because he figured out that Micheal is reanimated like him. As he is a scientist he likely had a theory about if someone became like Micheal did, reanimated but tied to only their body, as he is tied to the suit and his own flesh and others are tied only to the metal. The fact it is easy to kill you as easy it is to kill a normal person is possibly a dent his ego of thinking he is invincible as he possibly thought about his own flesh being a weakness and his possible theory about what a person’s remnant being tied only to their body would be like.
Tragic that there's not an infinite amount of lines for you to ramble on about.
AR isn't the only time he quoted Michael's monologue. In Fnaf 6, his line "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me." is reminiscent of Michael's line "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was you."
Yapping abt William Afton’s character is so interesting. His character in general is very interesting, I like to think about how his personality, and mindset is. He’s a rlly clever character, way ahead of his time honestly. William has been my hyper fixation for years now and i genuinely love talking about his character
same
You gotta be, like, my favorite person making FNAF videos right now. Everyone else is trying to pinpoint the lore and exactly what’s going on, but I personally see solving the plot as only the first step. The way you assemble what we know for sure about this story and use it to put the characters under a microscope? EXACTLY how I like tackling FNAF, absolutely brilliant!
Yeah, I love consuming fnaf content but after the 15th “I solved midnight motorist” video I start wanting something else from the community
@@CallofFreaky you. You get it.
@@protol5683 I’ve loved fnaf from the beginning, and the first couple years had incredibly interesting and immersive lore and community content, but right now it feels like it’s at a standstill and no one seems to bring anything new or interesting to the table. So stuff like this is just what I need to fuel my obsession with
@@CallofFreaky I feel just the same, stuff like Glitchtrap and The Mimic don't feel much like developments in a story as much as they are new bullet points to jot down on the latest iteration of the FNAF timeline. Cassie and Gregory's friendship seems like it COULD be an exception, like I can imagine there'd be a lot of intrigue in exactly what their friendship is like and how the experiences they go through will effect it. But we're being starved for information on exactly how these two usually interact so they can break the story up and sell it across 2 more sequels and 10 more books.
HARD AGREE. discovered the channel yesterday and i’ve been binging ever since. i love to hear “waffling” from someone who very obviously loves and cares about the series.
really only watch NotRealName NotAtAll for theories and lore discussions. they do a similar thing of walking us through their thought process if you want to go check out those videos :)
I think that "Fascinating, wha the have become" is specifically refers to Molten Freddy. He knows Elizabeth is Baby. He knows Chrlie in the Puppet. He knows the MCI kids are in the Funtimes (if you believe MoltenMXI ofc). What he doesn't know is that the Funtimes have used his own discovery, the scooper, to become something they weren't and escaoed th prison he put them into.
Also please continue doing this shit it's addicting i love this
Fascinating, of what they become!
Ignore all the mistakes I made I have no idea on how I managed to write so badly I must have been extremely tired lmao
@@bossco839 It's ok!
@@themanbehindslaughter thanks man
I like the picture that this paint William as, I know you wrote that this isn't Willcare propaganda, but I would call this something like... Willtwistedcare? The idea that William might have actually gave a shit about his children, but his way of caring was incredibly twisted and fucked up to where he both sees trying to kill his son as father-son bonding but also is sad over his death at least a bit.
Would work with a lot of CC dying first theories.
EDIT: Maybe he's even a bit PROUD of Michael for standing against him.
I absolutely agree with this, especially if you consider (the questionably canon??) Dittophobia story, wherein he really really has a fucked up view of what "taking care of someone" and "not being alone" is by how he talks to Rory. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying in that speech, because it tracks with CC and FNAF4: he watches CC all the time through Fredbear and talks to him and so on but he apparently never steps in to help with Michael's bullying or the scary situations CC finds himself in, thinking that "being monitored 24/7" somehow equates to "being taken care of" i.e. proper parenting which its N O T at all
William and parenting is a subject for another 50 minute video TBH
@@EpicFroggz NotRealName NotAtAll has an interesting video on how Afton's less than stellar parenting had disastrous consequences on his kids titled "How William Ruined his Kids' Lives (His Favorite Toys)"
I've been a believer that William did have *some* care for his kids but he went about it in some of the worst possible ways.
He gave C.C. a Fredbear Plush that he used to give advice and encouragement to navigate Michael's pranks and tried to keep Elizabeth away from Circus Baby knowing what the robot was created for. Signs that he did have some measure of love for (at least 2 of) his kids.
But, there's an element of neglect in his parenting. He doesn't seem to try to directly stop Michael from messing with C.C. in any capacity and all it took was for Elizabeth to get a few seconds alone with Circus Baby for her fate to be sealed (instead of just.....not bringing Elizabeth to CBPW or even having the built the darn thing in the first place).
WillTwistedCare is definitely a new favorite name for this theory now. Much appreciated 👍
@@Takejiro24 the problem I have with this video is that I disagree with the idea of William always being completely fucked up from the very start.
He was twisted and a narcissist from the start yes, but not "murder children" insane from the start. I like the idea that although a shitty person, he only really. became TRULY evil after his son's death.
@@fakeorchestra4260 I personally think that would ruin his character.
“That was _easier_ than I thought it would be…” tells me that he is disappointed, perhaps, in Michael’s abilities. Michael defeated him once before, nearly burned him to death, and now that Michael and William are coming back to blows William wins? And so easily too? It’s almost as if he expected more from Michael. Not in a taunting “is that really all you have?” but more of a disappointed “I expected more out of you.” It gives me scolding father vibes, a sort of OmniMan beating the hell out of Invincible moment. Maybe in a way William was hoping Michael would be better, a normal father wishes for his son to surpass him, or (more likely) maybe Will was hoping Mike would have made for a better hunt.
I believe that William, despite the fact he enjoyed and found satisfaction in killing Michael (twas “bittersweet, but fitting”), was maybe hoping his son would be better. Despite how sociopathic William is (note that I said sociopathy, not psychopathy), deep down William wanted more from his son. Be it for his own sadistic habits or for his paternal desires, he had hoped his son would have put up a better fight.
I want to make it clear that I also 100% with Bonk Boy’s takes on the voice lines. Also, I hope that I don’t have to say that I do not empathize with William. I pity him, so I guess I have a bit of sympathy, but it is of disdain. No WillCare from me. I simply just love to find alternate or parallel/coinciding meanings to things. Language is a very powerful tool, and the more meaning you can put behind a phrase the more power and characterization you can put within the phrase… Yes, my English teachers do love me
I fucking love this idea so much
Saying it was easier than he thought can also just be him taunting Michael, basically implying Michael is weak when he was all "im going to come find you."
“Bittersweet, but fitting…” tells me one thing in particular: William knows he just killed his son, and although he does feel a bit of remorse he also feels pleasure from it. Willy A. just realized that a part of him, somewhere deep down, still held _some_ form of affection for Michael yet he also feels satisfied. The “but fitting…” section of his line explains the ‘sweet’ in the bittersweet emotions: Willy got revenge after Michael tried to burn him within Fazbear Frights, as well as him still holding resentment after Michael accidentally killed William’s other son, Garret/Evan/Chris (the name depending on the continuity). William got his revenge, and feels that it is both fitting and deserving for Michael. On top of that, there is the poeticism that Bonk Boy talks about. William Afton appreciates being poetic, and so although he feels bittersweet about murdering his son he also finds it satisfyingly poetic that he has now (directly/indirectly) killed all of his children
In short, William Afton’s “Bittersweet, but fitting…” line tells us that he still holds a form of affection for Michael (whatever form it is) but overall found pleasure in revenge and satisfaction because of what Michael did to the Bite of ‘83 victim.
I want to make it clear that I also 100% with Bonk Boy’s takes on the voice lines. Also, I hope that I don’t have to say that I do not empathize with William. I pity him, so I guess I have a bit of sympathy, but it is of disdain. No WillCare here. I simply just love to find alternate or parallel/coinciding meanings to things. Language is a very powerful tool, and the more meaning you can put behind a phrase the more power and characterization you can put within the phrase… Yes, my English teachers do love me
It’s amazing how well this analysis aligns with Afton’s depictions across the fnaf books. As deranged as those things get, he remains relatively consistent throughout to the point where people were able to identify him in Dittophobia based on how he spoke alone. It may not interest you but I’d kill for someone to do an extended analysis of him in them.
" You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you: it's still me" I feel is a double meta reference. The first part referencing Michael Afton at the end of Sister Location ("They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was you"), and "it's still me" a reference to the Golden Freddy "It's me".
PJ's performance has always been my favourite casting for the series of FNAF, I think.
Ever since Sister Location first released where we got our first main line FNAF game fully voiced... ah- save Funtime Foxy I guess lol.
But ever since then, he's been my favourite voice actor for this series, giving alot of life to William, aswell as Michael.
Could it easily be bias because he's Australian and I never really hear any Aussies voice characters in games I like? Perhaps JKHJGHGFHSD
But his delivery and performance is very damn inspiring.
Gods, I do wish if William appears again, they cast PJ yet again.
Especially if Steelwool creates the game they wanna make that's set at the beginning. Surely, they'd let the man who gave character to William, voice him again in his beginnings?
Whatever happens, I hope to hear him again in the future.
Somehow I never read much into the “bittersweet” line, but I think you and ponds-of-ink are right. The delivery sounds heavier at the end, like he would rather it hadn’t come to this. Honestly your analyzation and storytelling during this part gave me chills
I also have an unhealthy obsession with William Afton’s voice
... he's my dad
@@Sonic.exe_uwu666Who are you...
@@Sonic.exe_uwu666 bros Micheal 💀💀
Me personally, I've always been really intrigued by his various designs. Mostly about the 'corpse' stuffed away inside the suit. More importantly how it doesn't actually look like a real human corpse at all. I know you've just talked about his voice for over half an hour, but I also think certain parts of his visual design add a lot to his character in displaying WHAT he is. That being a MONSTER with a HUMAN mind. Now, look, Scott himself has admitted that he struggles to model humans, let alone corpses which could explain the weird remains within Springtrap. But I personally believe that works in his favour rather than against it AND the other option is a lot less fun compared to what I believe. Starting off from no particular point, I like how his head is really the only recognisable part of his former human body. The way his flesh is there in clumps and strands. My personal headcanon is that the agony/remnant within the suit and within him has made it so that his organic parts adapt to the suit and make the suit its new body and furthermore GROW into it. Have you ever looked at the insides of Springtrap before? The way the flesh coils around the mechanical parts and clings onto it? It's kind of like vines that grow around things like fences or trees and how they coil around things and adapt to their environment. It gives the impression that the human body is gone and the actual organic LIVING part of Afton is using the suit as its new body. Its new "HOST." This can most prominently be seen in the 'ankle guts' where it coils around the ankle joints and even grows along the foot like toe tendons, allowing his living self to manipulate the suit movement.
This idea is kept in Pizzeria Simulator. Now, look, I don't think Scraptrap has the BEST design in all of FNAF history. Not even close. But I do think that it stays consistent on how his remains work. They have grown even more, the flesh is much more prominent and even grows in thicker clumps. The whole theory that Afton's organic parts 'adapt' to their new conditions could explain why the skull looks so different. As goofy and Jimmy Neutron as it looks, it clearly shows EVOLUTION. His skull has stretched and bloated to fit the suit better and we can see this begin to take place in the FNAF 3 Afton skull where the mechanical parts are notably stretching out parts of the face. He has grown lips and teeth and even BONE EARS. Like I said before, my headcanon for why this can happen is simple: the agony/remnant allows for this to happen. We see Michael come back to life after having all of his insides and presumably his skeleton scooped out thanks to the scooper's remnant injection, so why is it too far fetched to say that remnant can create LITERAL new life by growing parts back? Afton DIED, but his body isn't really DEAD. It CAN'T die by normal means, just like the animatronics. In the Fazbear Frights book story "The Man in Room 1280", he is literally a corpse that WON'T DIE. This could explain how he can speak in FNAF 6, but not FNAF 3. In FNAF 3, all we can really hear are faint groans of pain, but no audible speech. But in FNAF 6, he has fully regained the ability to speak, but evidently his voice isn't quite right either as heard in his gravelly and very strained sounding voice, like it rips at his vocal chords to make a sound. But still, it shows that the suit is becoming more and more his REAL body. Like he is becoming one with the suit. This corpse design is even consistent in Burntrap. The skull is misshapen and deformed thanks to the suit, he now has all of his teeth and we can see the flesh literally in the middle of GROWING in the new endoskeleton, presumably originating from the head. It stretches down and grabs onto other parts of the suit. Like growing vines.
All this to say, Afton's corpse design is kind of brilliant by accident. At least according to me. It shows how much less of a man he is and how much more of a monster he is, no longer really even having a human body. His design in each game gets progressively less and less like a human body. The original Springtrap had more human proportions, but by Security Breach, he's so much taller, thinner and NOT HUMAN. He still has the human mind, but he is far from being a real human and much more closely resembles a MONSTER. A force of nature. A beast in need of slaying (over and over again). His voice is important, but SEEING the monster is just as important as hearing it. Anyway, thanks for reading all this. I'm surprised anyone did, but then again... this is about over-analysing stuff, right? :D
"He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1983
recently stumbled on “overthinking Michael Afton’s monologue, and ended up watching all your videos. finally, someone who is truly obsessed with these two purple fuckers. thank you for another great analysis
“Bitter sweet but fitting.”
I interpreted as Mike killed cc by animatronics and bow Mike meets the same fate
That and that Mike was likely the one who set fire to Fazbear's Frights in FNAF 3 which could have killed William. This one line pretty much confirms to me that, yes, we play as Michael in FFPS and it tells so much about their characters.
@@Takejiro24 i know what you mean but rather than just establishing a relationship with both characters, it is hard to deny what their actions have in common with one another.
the breaks to fanboy about pj heywood's voice are very relatable
"Is he stupid?" After seeing some of the posts on r/BatmanArkham, this phrase feels weird when its in a normal sentence.
You're the second one I see in this comment section who mentions this subreddit. 💀
I just love how many a few of these reads i recognize from the movie. The "bitter sweet , but fitting" applies perfectly to afton stabbing vanessa and i think i did the pointing di caprio meme when you said narrative "symmetry"
49:03 hes talking like a father seeing his newborn child for the first time lol
William's voicelines show very well the multiple layers he has and the developement into a serial killer (which is actually very similar to irl serial killers). Deep down he's vunerable but it's covered up by cocky and violent behaviour and mental problems and then this is masked under the image of a calm business man. Then over time the mask gets harder and harder to keep on, to pretend being "normal". In the SL intro he's wearing the mask, coming out as a cold and calm man whereas underneath he's violent, self-centred and sadistic. Still sometimes the innermost layer, deeply broken, shines through, no matter how much he tries to hide it. He's very interesting from a psychological perspective
Also if you happen to see this, can you make a video overthinking Henry's voicelines (at least the monologues in completation ending and insanity ending)?
I very seldom will directly interact with a TH-cam video, but I’ve got to tell you, this is genuinely one of if not the best character studies on William Afton. Your takes on him are so set in the reality of what the games showcase while also staying true to the direction Scott and PJ took the mannerisms of his voice lines, it’s admirable to see you research and write something you’re very clearly heavily passionate about. Your content is out of this world, Bonk Boy. Look forward to the next video!
Imagine if you analyzed Mr.Hippo’s voicelines/stories for an April fools video.
This shows that he takes great pleasure in feeding the ducks…
the voiceover is so clean and the editing is nice. Also the fact that this feels like a normal documentary but with the random memes sprinkled in is unexpected but quite funny
at the end of "she can dispense ice cream" i can just imagine Afton leaning forward, eagerly, as if sharing a secret, you know? like, hes just. so proud of it.
YESSSS-
oml he's 100% the time to do that:
phone in hand
legs up
laying on his stomach
hand on his cheek
twirling his hair
swooning at the latest accusations about him
oh he's ONE HUNDRED PERCENT a giggler isnt he?
YESSS NEW HEADCANON!
henry: "some children were murdered!"
william: "ooooh! what happened?"
henry: "idk but their DEAD man " **shows photos**
william: "OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH GOREEE!!!"
I would love to see your takes and analysis of circus baby’s voice lines!! Her voice will always be my fav out of all the characters and I think it’s so interesting how she’s so manipulative like her father but never seems impulsive…always so calculated and in control.
Now this, this the type of FNaF analysis that deserves a 50 minute video. Keep making these insanely specific videos, folllow your bliss, never let them tell you otherwise, absolute king behavior.
I love this analysis so much! The fact William’s voice is influenced by the idea of a snake oil salesman is so cool because I personally see his smugness coming from his idea that he’s getting away with actions despite others’ suspicions rather than from the lack of it, he thinks so smart and resilient that any evidence is circumstantial at best and can manipulate his way out of any corner he’s backed into
"You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me" said with stifled laughter is William throwing Mike's own words back at him; "They didn't recognize me at first, but then, they thought I was you". To me it reads as making a mockery of Mike's promise of "I'm going to come find you", like "yeah you found me, and you're powerless".
love the clarification on what "waffling" means for your american audience
I hope that didn't come off as condescending, it was primarily meant to be a Pulp Fiction reference.
lol no, i'm not american, and where i live "waffle" is used a lot as slang, havent seen pulp fiction so thought thats what u were talking about, cool video@@bonkboy4386
Personally I believed william always struggled with satisfaction for example even though he part owns one of the most successful entertainment Food business. He's still not satisfied no matter what he does but he still can be prideful. For short I believe that William puts up the ACT that he's a satisfied as he can be but in reality every moment and every second is always the thing back in his mind telling him he's not good enough or or you're a failure etc so what did he try to do satisfy his own ego.
William has to be one of my most favorite villains of all time, and I couldn't be more thankful for PJ Haywood and his amazing performances to give that amazing character an amazing voice. I also like how slightly different Scraptrap's and Special Delivery Springtrap's voices are. Really nice touch
PS: Found your channel a few months ago and I gotta admit, I'm a huge fan of your videos and channel. So when I discovered that you recently uploaded a new video, let alone one analyzing William's voice and PJ's performance, it instantly made my day. Keep up the great work
as a Brit, I apologize for the purple man killer we have on our streets
Lol
Well he's an expat as you'd call it, so really the Ohioans should be apologizing for letting him in
symmetry my friend
I love your voice analysis videos so much.. One other voice actor from fnaf I've always been a fan of was Circus Baby's. I think what really set it for me was when she says, "I know it was an accident", it just unlocked a whole lot of depth between Micheal and Elizabeth's relationship just with the way she says it.
I really adore how you dive so deep into Afton's theatrics. Its not something I've thought about before but this undead crusty rabbit love putting on a show.
Amazing how much we can get from a voice.
fun fact: "I always come back" originated from Child's Play, I like to think Afton watched that film and thought "ooohhhh that's a cool quote"
In the movie he does scream knife wipe, he definitely watched horror movies
@MissionControlDRG does he yell "BATTERR UP!"
Specifically from The Bride of Chucky 😉
This video is purely the reason why I subscribed to you. Like, wow, you completely dissected William’s character to the bone with the analysis you put in, it’s so well done and you have put so much heart into it. As a criminology student, I appreciate any tie-in’s to anything about crime because it doesn’t just show how twisted a person may be, but it makes you understand what made them get to that point; with the points you made with William, Michael, and also the children and his methods of what he does, I find it really intriguing that what he says reflects so much yet so less of his character and his actions leading him to the kind of person that he is.
I also love how you picked up so closely on slight mannerisms that William portrays in his lines, since it gives off more than meets the eye and its details like those which give me a certain “fascination”.
I know it seems like I’m rambling a bit, but I love your style of analysis and I can tell that this series is something that you love working on. Keep up the amazing work, I won’t forget this for sure ❤
I totally get hyper fixating on an actors voice, happened to me with a broadway actor who only did like 2 musicals. I’d love to get PJ back as afton for future content as well! Never be ashamed to waffle about an VA’s great performance
I love William's voice, his personality, his story, I love the character
37:03 I think it actually makes sense for AR Spring Trap to be more furious, he’s the version of himself when he first became Spring Trap, he’s still bitter about being cornered and forced into a situation he didn’t want, and he may be more himself in the suit, but I doubt he appreciates the agonizing death he went through. He’s basically high off rage in the beginning, and as time goes by he settles himself back into a more controlled personality.
The symmetry thing is even an idea echoed in the movie, so you’re definitely onto something with that
I'm obsessed with your obsession with William Afton's voice. As well as I'm obsessed with his voice too
i think you did a really good job here. i would argue you are a very inteligent person, i don't often come across people that can pick up subtle cues in someones voice without them having to be made overtly obvious. its a rare quality to se in other people, and i apreciate you for it. again, i think you did a fantastic job and have very clear understaning and reasoning abilities. I wish you alot of success in your future, and i hope all is well for you in the present.
The way I imagine it "That was easier than I thought it would be." also shows off Williams extreme ego. Michael is HIS son, and he's so great, an immortal mastermind killer, yet it was so easy to kill someone so closely related to him.
Your channel is really underrated, finally someone appreciates just how well Williams voice acting is
21:27 "Symmetry, my friend" that line from the movie always felt off for me, but I guess it makes sense if you put it that way
Loved this video. There’s a lot of to every piece of dialogue in FNAF but it’s so nice to be able to carefully craft this character of William Afton that has been such a crucial part of this series for so long.
Picking apart the acting, emotion, and directing decisions of these voice lines is something fresh. I love these videos and what they mean for the LOOOORE
Afton probably talks that way, in the part where hes like "you may not recognize me at first" because Michael possibly tried to kill him in FNaF 3. Michael is in shock he lived and looks like this, or thats what William imagines.
I cannot believe you actually uploaded an almost 50 minute video on this man. The autism is real. Though..i really respect it. 😌
Finished the video and this was such a good watch holy shit. I think it's honestly really cool how you went into speech patterns and whatnot. Especially how you got into the intricacies of it all. Its so..fascinating.
Also on the bit about narrative symmetry. Even though its kinda loosely related..i do think it's interesting that "symmetry" itself is something afton himself, says in his big grandiose speech at the end of the movie. Just something i though i'd point out.
But all in all, bravo.The dedication is amazing. I absolutely loved this. And definitely will be coming back to it as someone who loves the character.
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This video was the definition of autism heaven for me.
@@bonkboy4386 From how much research you've done on PJ's VO work (concerning fnaf)..i'm sure it is LMAO. But damn, I respect it a lot. Your video on it was honestly a joy to watch.
I know you've been writing this one up for quite a bit now. And it came your amazing!
@@bonkboy4386my man : D
Bro, aftons character potrayed through his voice is so nicely done. It reminds me of the joker. They are both similar in the way they act toward life. Treating it like a show. How the show must go on. The villain has to be the villain, so i will continue. Type feel. Its nice to see other people who also appreciate his character. And bonk is the harley quinn of afton lmao
big fan of the super obscure springtrap render in the thumbnail
For the first time, I feel like like someone is sharing my obsessive enthusiasm about the characterization of the Aftons, this is amazing
willam waffling afton
Never thought I would stuck to such massive yapping about a single character but here we are!!
I loved this-I love everything about this, specially the interpretations for Scraptrap’s voice lines where he sounds a bit ‘gloomy’ or even fatherly. And the smile board things goooshhh I literally SEE the grins William makes when he’s speaking; amazing how that method works 🎉
Got the zoomies throughout this whole video, it’s just exactly how I picture William: he’s a narcissistic father who grudges the idea of being questioned and deceived (even by his own children) yet when HE does those things, there is no issue because he is the one doing so. Such a character; incredible how such curt voice lines carry such subtle characteristics, creating a perfect villain. Keep up the good work! These analysis are astounding!!
I just have to say how much I ADORE these videos. I've had these kinda ideas bouncing in my head for ages I'm sososo happy to see them layed out so clearly like this
Bro just kept on yapping, i had to opt out at 0:11
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Every few minutes while watching this I gotta make sure to make a 😵💫👈 expression at my webcam and say out loud “what is blud wafflin’ about?”
That is the desired effect :3
Simping for PJ Heywood's Voice for 49:20 minutes
Wah gwannnnnnnn ❤. U kinda sound like a younger version of PJ Heywood I love it 😂
michael afton
I think that William expresses disappointment in the line “that was easier than I thought it would be…” because he expects Michael, as his son/tool, to be able to put up a good fight against him. An easy victory reflects poorly on William, as William only sees Michael as an extension of himself, not as an individual.
Ooh I like this interpretation
12:38 "obviously🙄💅✨️"😂😂😂
The voice actor, PJ Heywood, just has an amazing voice too, like god dayum
his va did such an incredible job, and i love that even the va (and scott!) didn't try to make him too cool, he's a loser. he hurts people, he's not cool or interesting really, he's socially awkward and a bad person, and if you talked to him irl, he would probably be super annoying. he's full of himself, sure, but he doesn't really have a good reason to be and i think in irl, he'd be that annoying coworker who knows everything you don't, and is just /so/ much better than you.
Please make one on Circus Baby / Scrap Baby, it’ll make me so happy and giddy
show but dont tell.
tell but dont show.
fnaf mastered both and never did them at the same time
we were used to seeing William in the minigames, so hearing a voice gives us much more to work with when figuring out a character
27:35 "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you: it's still me." sounds almost like someone who's genuinely excited to reconnect with someone who doesn't recognize him.
i am obsessed with your videos about the aftons, they’re my lifeline.
the emphasis on fear is due to agony, the energy that sparks possession of steel. This emphasis on suffering and fear is the cause of possession and hes attempting to leech off of it and enduce as much as he can. Quite litterally 'it is your fear that sustains me.'
Honestly this video changed my mind on the voices ( partly ) , I'm not exactly a big fan of the voices since they really don't help with FNAF's grasp on horror, whenever i hear a kellen goff animatronic call out to me from the hallways It breaks the immerson and makes me think " i'm supposed to take this seriously? "
It also just works to steal from baby, one of the things that made baby stand out as an antagonist was the fact ( for a while at least ) she was the only animatronic that could talk and she'd use that to her advantage to manipulate her victims
I loved both this analysis and your one on Michael! There are so many cues we can examine to get a better look at fnaf’s characters despite its fairly cryptic storytelling, and the voice acting is a great avenue for that! I really enjoyed your analysis (and that of ponds-of-ink) and I hope to see more of your thoughts on the series in the future :)
What I love about this video is how everyone knew this about William. Anyone who heard this little thing would just assume that’s his personality, but they wouldn’t know WHY they think he’s a smug lying piece of shit, they could just “tell”. Thanks for this video, which breaks down how the game communicates with the player that William is a piece of shit through just his voice.
As a kid I use to be most scared of Withered Bonnie, but when he got voicelines, I found him kind of endearing. No he's one of my favorites. Withered Chica has been bumped to #1 scariest animatronic now. Something about her jaw deeply disturbs me, and she's not endearing like Withered Bonnie is. I always imagine Withered Bonnie talking to Ruined Roxie. They handle their lack of face situation so differently; it would be entertaining to see them interact.
i love your ramblings about this man's voice ^ ^
Video Suggestion: Afton seen through the lens of an 80s slasher. You mentioned how his speech and demeanor are very influenced by Hannibal Lecter and Candy Man but his methods and actions are like Freddy Kruger (tbh, I’d not be shocked if the name of the series is in direct reference to Kruger) and his over all physical appearance is something like a mix of Jason Vorhees’s ‘hulking undead monster’ and Chucky’s ‘kid focused thing gone evil’.
Hilarious how William showboats about his victory over Michael with all his "Le irony" yapping, but ultimately he's still trapped in the pizzeria, so he'll probably still be cooked on Sunday
The lines that springtrap "stole" from nightmare/Fredbear could be the last words that the child that possessed Fredbear heard from Afton. Considering you can actually hear a child toned voice underneath (especially Fredbear).
YES!!! You put it into words, like, everything, so eloquently *chef's kiss* And the analysis of AR Spring's voice lines was appreciated since I hadn't really listened to those before, even if they're dubiously canon its still his voice, PJ is still the character so, they're super interesting too! Esp. how you said "fear" is just like "being lied to" in that its one of the things he hates feeling the most, that is so TRUE, perfect parallel there. Just 11/10 video, I'll be coming back to this one like I do the Michael's monologue one!!
P.S. I think its tragic that Scott/SW brought back every voice actor for HW2 except PJ, like... Even if not lore tapes from Michael or William laying around the SL levels, they put in Pigpatch instead of Scraptrap like. ????? HW2 is an amazing game but *william voice* it could have been so much m o r e
At this point I'm wondering if it was a blessing in disguise that Scraptrap wasn't in HW2, as he probably would've just been in the Helpy minigame with no voice lines like the other animatronics in that minigame, which I think would be kind of a waste of bringing the character back... But maybe I'm just coping. Thank you for the kind words :))
@@bonkboy4386 Yeaa, you're probably right... I'll always hold out hope but HW2 was the best chance--maybe in a dlc :D Cheers!
@@EpicFroggzI'm with you. I'm like one of the few people on the planet who loves Scraptrap's design, and I kinda wanna see it back with all the indications of rushing the designs gone.
There he is my favorite British fnaf comentary guy.
I mean this in the best possible way, my man: you are down HORRENDOUS. It’s okay, so am I. I’ve been waffling about Afton since we called him Vincent.
Man i love william afton
It’s possible William isn’t stealing lines from other characters but they actually stole from him first. Mainly with regards to the Ultimate Custom Night lines, since that’s his own nightmare and they are his victims, they may be regurgitating things he said to them when he killed them. And so they are using those lines against him as a cruel irony. But in AR, that’s just William in his natural habitat, being a creep, saying his creep lines creepily.