So gonna pin this comment here for anyone with frequently asked comments over the last few days! Q1. How could William be springlocked after FNAF 1 if the room is sealed when Phone Guy is still alive? A1. Here's a TH-cam Short I made on the subject: th-cam.com/video/YoQ47sr2qss/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheUnwitheredTruth Q2. Baby's Lines mean the springlock was used for nefarious purposes A2. Maybe? I toyed with the idea that Afton got the springlocks intentionally decommissioned, but struggled a bit with the reasoning. Not 100% on what it would be if she did mean to imply that, but regardless, my point is that the fact there's a springlock in a game named Sister Location - a title which comes from a tape about springlocks, means, in my mind, the only reasonable explanation is that Scott wanted to answer the question we had from FNAF 3. Q3. Do you believe in WillCare? William doesn't care about his kids. A3. I don't believe in WillCare - just based on the way Scott has described his intentions with the story, I don't think his intention is to make Afton a "tragic" figure, even if that means a more complex story. I believe that (if Dave does indeed die first as I suggested here) then William wants Henry's family to be as broken as his. It's a choice made out of spite of Henry, rather than grief or love for his children. If there are more I see frequently asked/commented I'll make sure to add them. Thanks for over 100k views!
For the 2nd one a theory I heard is that William use the spring lock suit to get rid of the evidence for Elizabeth’s death. When Elizabeth died William did not wanting to bring suspicion to the funtimes So he made it look like Elizabeth was killed by the springlocks Hence the whole “ at least not the way it was meant to be used” and baby connections/knowledge of it
This is definitely one of my favorite theory videos. But there's a contradiction in the last segment. If Dave died first, couch person from MM would have to be the mom, so she should be present during the fnaf 4 minigames, looking after the kids
I always took the "not the way it was meant to be used" as "they hid bodies in it." Because, you know, wearing the suit at all (either to entertain guests or to kill kids) would be using it for the purpose it was made for: to be worn when not in animatronic mode. So I don't think the "nefarious purposes," as addressed in this comment, are the thing that needs to be debunked.
@@Pikza203 A theory that goes around is that she divorced Afton and didn't want any form of contact with him (even through their kids) or has unalived herself after losing custody of her children. This could've been before Michael started to bully Dave. Because Afton would rarely be home because of the launch (or rising fame) of Fredbear's and couldn't care less to hire a babysitter, he'd leave his children alone in the house, which would make Michael the responsible one since he was already a teenager.
I like the point you make on remembering first and foremost that this is Scott trying to tell a story rather than create an intricate history lesson with no room for error. As a writer myself I agree it's the best way to view this series and remain at least somewhat sane.
Knowing from what can glean from Scott in his not so abundant online presence, I think he is first and foremost a storyteller and a far second puzzle maker (Sorry Scott lol). With his personality in mind, it makes sense why everything about FNAF "doesn't seem to fit quite nicely" because yeah, it really wouldn't. I bet you Scott never really intended for FNAF to be an epic and yet here it is shaping up to be one. You could even argue that it already is one. So, boops and bopss here and there was bound to crop and there is only so much Scott can do and think ya know? So, FNAF is definitely more story-driven than puzzle-driven.
I've been on a huge kick lately of being less obsessed with lore and worldbuilding and logical details, and more on the ideas and themes within stories. I think that a lot of modern franchises are leaning too far into the logical details, this idea of one consistent lore, and that modern audiences are being trained to see things through that lens when really, that's kind of a recent approach to storytelling in the grand scheme of things. In older stories, the details didn't matter - the ideas did, and what those ideas were trying to share were more important than any of the inconsistencies.
@@Mega-Brick I got that kick too, for the past 3 years and it's been weird. Lore can be fun but one of the problems is that there is always a limit, whether it's how much the author can write, or if viewers are looking too deep into something like the ending in FNAF 1 with the termination paper meaning anything other than Scott just joking. The biggest problem I had, which started the kick for me with Attack on Titan, was everyone being more focused on arguing the small details instead of how the story will go, or like you mentioned the ideas and themes within the story. It's nice when there are things behind a story but the story itself should have meaning and be enjoyable on its own. If you wanna see a prime example of a story's lore conflicting with the themes of the story itself, check out Killzone and the debate on whether the Helghast were actually the bad guys, the developers intended for it to be nuanced but a lot of fans put a spin on it that gets a little tense...
@@TaxHatingAmerican I blame the rise of CinemaSins and other professional nitpickers, at least to an extent. "Why didn't Frodo just fly to Mt Doom on an eagle?" should never have become an actually serious genre of questions. In general, I think it helps to recontextualise any lore discussions as less of an "archeology paper" and more storytelling in it's own right. Yes, when making a theory you're still sticking to an overarching narrative as told by Scott or some other creator, but that narrative usually just consists of individual data points that you have to connect. Like a large paint-by-numbers puzzle with most of the numbers missing. And the focus on finding The One True Way to connect all the dots, I think, is a bit unfortunate, because there likely isn't one in the first place. Instead the fun lies in telling your own story within the confines of the lore. But as long as most people are more interested in definitively "solving" the lore - or watching Game Theorists solve it - that will always be the dominant way in which people approach these games: Like Scott is an omniscient puzzle maker who plucks events from a fully formed and consistant history that we just have to piece back together.
I really appreciate how the newest theories, like this one, are detangling the web of madness and showing this story to be way more straightforward - and the characters way more down-to-earth - than we've previously treated them. I feel like we're in the 'clean-up' phase of FNaF theorizing right now.
I love matpat's theories and all, but he had a serious tendency to just grab onto his first impressions, ridiculous as they may be, and just not let go until they crumble to dust. At which time, he's too far behind to actually see what he missed out on. Looking at you, Purple Phone guy. I think this is what led to the story seeming more convoluted than it is. Though, it is still pretty convoluted.
In its defense, Glitch Afton actually made sense post Help Wanted and pre Security Breach but yeah it's refreshing to see new theories like this @dinoguy163
Boy, we really were in need of that. It's another reason for me to enjoy the movie a lot actually - it's not unnecessarily complicated, and the story flowed rather well. It wasn't perfect, not at all, but still, had a good time with it.
You and withered circle came out of nowhere and started making the most realistic/precise and unbiased theories of all fnaf theorists, this was cinema again.
The odor and tampering with the animatronics was a meta joke. You were tampering with the animatronics by changing their AI level and the game just said you were a sweatlord gamer for beating 4/20 mode
I hadn’t thought about this, do you think Scott could’ve seen the community take it as lore and played into it a little? Or it still remains just a joke
@@NiloQuest Clearly it wasn't meant as a lore hint at the time, but it's completely possible that further down the line it was made into one. Most of this game's lore was made up by Scott as he went from game to game. I mean, at first it was 5 kids - 5 animatronics but then it turned out there were six and apparently another 5 and then some on the side and that one in Freadbear's - you see where I'm going. Scott isn't a good storyteller, and surely he doesn't have a solid explenation for everything. He just went with the flow and intnetionally kept things very vague so that the small inconsistensies remain largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of the story or so that the debate keeps on going refusing to let the franchise die
There's also the point another theorist brought up is that no one would hire a corpse, and if the remnant healed him then he wouldn't smell like a corpse anymore in the first place
THANK YOU holy mother of god I seriously think the "two lights" in GF's mask is the single biggest oversight from the community, it very VERY clearly isn't two lights and that throws off so much assumed implications.
That is by far the most cohesive story line ive ever heard out of a fnaf theory video, especially the call back to him in the books, i think thats the best we're going to get for a long while
Seriously, that line from William on why he killed the OG 5 kids in the books universe blew my mind (I am not much of a book reader so that's why), and people just ignored that info like it's nothing cause "oh books in different universe than games", if it weren't for the books, we wouldn't have found out half the names of these characters or have any idea on how the supernatural works in this franchise, I love how the FNAF community is so focused on analyzing and trying to piece together every little detail they find like a jigsaw puzzle, they forget the story aspect of it all, and miss the things that are right in front of us, like Henry straight up telling us William kept rickrolling and never giving up on using the MCI kids for his own sick experiments, Willy slaughtering 5 innocent children for freaking science, after being inspired by his own daughter accidentally getting captured by Baby and crushed to death inside her, is absolutely insane bruh.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT OUT LOUD: FNAF should be treated as Scott writing a story, not fitting puzzle pieces together to form a whole. I always viewed FNAF this way, as it makes the most logical sense and it helps explain the confusing points in the games. I'm so happy that sister location was placed after fnaf 1 because I never thought it made sense for it to take place before FNAF 1. This video is outstanding at explaining the meaning behind Scott's writing choices, while also giving unbiased evidence that the games AND the silver eyes trilogy gives us. I was always confused on why the funtime animatronics would exist before the MCI, but this video helped explain why it does make sense and helps fuel William's motivation. This suggests that William was always into the supernatural and had a thing for science since the beginning, not just because of his ego being so high that he wanted to ruin Henry's life and reputation. I 100% agree with this take and I'm so glad you explained the quiet parts out loud. It all makes sense and I'm shocked we missed the sister location connection from FNAF 3.
Well, stories are still criticized for having plot holes and inconsistencies. So why can’t those criticisms be said about the FNAF lore? Clearly Scott didn’t know the story from beginning to end and was only making the story as he was developing each next game. Which comes plot holes and inconsistencies. I don’t agree with blaming the fans for giving constructive criticism
@@ki11aqueen5 oh of course! I agree that FNAF can be criticized, especially since there’s been a lot of issues over the years with trying to tell the story. Yeah Scott never knew from the beginning what he was doing and had to write the story on the spot, hence why there’s so many inconsistencies if he couldn’t draft it out first from the beginning. Makes sense for him to change things up if they don’t fit his vision, but at the same time it’s led to a lot of problems with the games and how the story is being told. I definitely agree that it wasn’t done in the best way and I don’t think blaming fans for criticism is the best either
@@phantommoon11 Everyone during FNAF 4 coming out: *Going crazy over Dream Theory* Scott: Hey guys, here's another hint, who are the nightguards in all three of the games? Matpat: Oh! It's Crying Child who's dreaming everything from FNAF 1-3! Scott: *Makes Sister Location, literally a second into the game, it shows you were playing as Mike this whole time* Everyone: Ohhhh... Scott: Seriously guys, thought the reverse FNAF 1 phone call made it obvious. Everyone: We thought that was just an easter egg that didn't mean anything. Scott: *Facepalms* even after I told you that I didn't put any easter eggs in it? *Sighs* man, this is why I love you guys ♥
23:45 thank you so much for finally pointing it out, now i just need someone to point out that it's not gone in the good ending, just obscured in darkness and i'll be so damn happy
26:39 If Michael is actually talking to William, i.e. Diegetic. Then it would be a phone call. There are other ways for Michaels monologue to be diegetic, maybe its Michael talking to himself, maybe its Michael rehearsing what he will say to his father
Theories aside, I really want to give credit and appreciation to the way you present information in your videos. It's very clean, clear and just fun. Like editing the Fredbears poster to be covered in blood, the logos for Baby's Pizza World and Rental, the animation of Withered Freddy going insane bc of the theory - great stuff
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you like the different art assets, I got sick of trying to comb through fan art and graphic novels to find some piece of official art that matched what I was talking about so I said why not just do it myself
I think its absolutely criminal that I haven't seen a SINGLE theorist talk about or review your theories. Maybe I'm missing them but I cant find a single vid for either of them.
I would love to see some of the bigger FNAFtubers taking a look at the video! Every like, comment, and share helps so I appreciate it! If there's anyone in particular you'd wanna see cover it I'd send it to them directly. I'd do it but I don't wanna self-promo too hard ;)
To me "I don't think it was ever used, at least in the way it was meant to be used" has a pretty clear meaning - this suit WAS used, but not for entertainment. It was only used by Afton. I guess there's a second possible interpretation - assuming that Baby is saying that the suit was MEANT to be used for evil, then it only being used for entertainment would match the sentence, but the first seems a lot more likely
@@johnjordan211 Someone getting spring locked makes no sense to me. "I don't think it was ever used, at least not in the way it was meant to be used. Too dangerous" Doesn't work in the context of someone got spring locked in this suit. Like, yes someone did get springlocked - but not in this specific suit. That's how they know it's too dangerous to wear. But it was never worn. Not by an employee, not for it's intended purpose. Which means that it was worn, but never by someone that was planning to use it for it's intended purpose.
@@johnjordan211 >says someone got springlocked >gets a long response from OC saying that it couldn't have been a springlock failure >says the same thing >refuses to elaborate >leaves What did he mean by this?
finally someone cleared up the fnaf 3 ending with the lights (23:50). It's bothered me so much when theorists try to use it to say golden freddy has two souls, because by that logic chica has 2 or 3 souls (why is a soul in her mouth? not enough eyes?) and freddy has 2 as well.
I don't think michaels entire body was taxidermied, I think the scooper tore his stomach open and Ennard had to make do by forcing their way into the nooks and crannies
If it tore up a way to his spine through the stomach, enard could very easily mimic the position of his bones and nerves to control michael with dexterity. When enard leaves michael, he falls to the ground like a suit and not like a skeleton, that means his bones were broken. Since bones hold bone marrow that creates new cells, it's possible that the remnant soaked in the bones and they fixed themselves while creating cells infused with remnant
There is an old steam post by Scott Cawthon that suggests that Ennard did indeed remove Michaels insides rather than just slipping inside around his organs. When asked how the Scooper even worked, Scott basically said the Scooper just punched a hole in mike and then he was emptied out "like a pumpkin"
I like how you explained William's motives as a mix of curiosity and revenge, rather than just him being evil. I always thought William's crimes were related to his experiments, but I couldn't quite piece all the evidence together. Because of that, I really respect the work you put into this video. It deserves way more attention than it has right now!
@@WitheredCircle Thank you! Excited to see what people think. It's funny though cause I watched your Molten Freddy video yesterday and I discuss a lot of the same points later on in this video!
@@UnwitheredTruth btw do you have a discord acc? I wanna discuss something with you there so if you could email it to me or something that would be great
7:54 dang I have a different interpretation of those lines. I got more of this suit was not used for its intended purpose but it was used to kill /hurt someone intentionally. Which could be interesting depending on where this incident was placed time wise to the bite of 83.
@@BrixBlox i think someone managed to clean up the old "evan" theory for cc's name in the security logbook. honestly fee;s a bit anticlimactic for the nameless kid who we barely know all series to be given a basic bitch ass name as evan or dave though, so i don't personally believe either.
@@BrixBloxit’s a bit pretentious to say anything on fnaf lore is proven to be fair but what they’re referring to is the old “Evan” theory was “figured out” basically they used the exact way they found Cassidy’s name and used it to find Dave. “Evan” was using the same theory up until the last letter, but “Dave” uses the same system for every single letter. Virtually making it as cannon as Cassidy’s name! Which is still argued on, but widely accepted
More proof the springlock suit is the one that caused the springlock failure, inorder to decomoress the springs you need a hand crank, this suit in specific requires us to constantly wind up the spings by hand FROM INSIDE the suit, which means the suit isnt functioning correctly
Honestly, I always thought the interpretation for baby's "I don't think it was ever used. At least, not the way it was *meant* to be used. Too dangerous" to be "The suit wasn't ever used by Afton to kill" (because we know *his* intentions for the suits were to use them to kill) because it was "too dangerous" for him to do so, and therefore to her knowledge was never used
Thank you so much! BTW I'm sorry I misspelled Buunny in the shoutout 😂 I only realised it was spelled differently when I saw your comment on that Gibi video from a few days ago about him spelling it correctly
This is really solid. If you'll permit me, I have two questions about the last bit, where you talk about the early days. Honestly, it makes sense why you didn't discuss them here, but I've got curiosity. 1. What is your opinion on the grave order in Help Wanted and how/if that interacts with this theory? You present Dave, then Charlie, then the MCI kids as the Death Order, but a not uncommon interpretation of the graves place Charlie last. 2. Where's the SAVETHEM minigame fit in with the murders? You don't mention them, so I'm curious.
I'm pretty sure the HW2 grave order is meant to represent the order the MCI victims were put to rest. Plus, there have been things that have hinted at the death order in other installments. There's more evidence for it being Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz then Cassidy.
1. As stated, most likely when they were put to rest. If you take UCN and Frights into account, it makes a lot of sense. Cassidy remains after 6, but eventually departs from UCN and rests her soul, as OMC bids her, leaving William to Andrew. Charlie may or may not also be hanging around in UCN, but even if she isn’t, she’s still around because she is the one to destroy William in the end in Frights. Only then does she rest, the last in the grave order. 2. An event Scott wants us to forget. But, if I were to try and make it fit, it could be William experimenting yet again, this time without direct contact between the deceased and the robots to see if there’s a reaction. And there is, and they want his head for it, so he pisses off to the day shift.
The HW2 graves are not the death order, thats just impossible. The HW2 grave puzzle is one giant reference to Happiest day. The dolls are placed on graves in the order that the 5 children arrive to the Party, with the exception of Freddy whos minigame can be completed on any night unlike the others whos minigames can only be done on certain nights. The puppet is the final grave because they arrive last to the party and deliver the cake to the children. This Easter egg is then used to open the door leading to the bonnie mask, which is again another reference to Happiest day. The Bonnie mask was worn by the bully in Fredbears and the layout of Fredbears is litterally just the Happiest day minigame but flipped backwards
@@Skibbutz i mean, why would it be bonnie kid specifically? there's nothing special about him. it'd make more sense to stick a foxy mask in there, or a fredbear plush. sure, the bonnie mask shows up, but it feels a bit to random in this interpretation to be locked in a chest.
8:38 If she witnessed a springlock failure, then that could tie into "Remember what you saw". If William (via one of the fredbear nannycam plushies) telling David/CC "Remember what you saw" is referring to a springlock failure he witnessed, and Elizabeth knows about springlock failures, then this could mean that both David and Elizabeth witnessed a springlock failure possibly in the *employees only/red-door room* at Fredbears sometime before the events of the FNAF 4 minigames. This might explain why Elizabeth and Mrs. Afton are absent during the events of FNAF 4, they might be away at therapy due to Elizabeths trauma. If they are, then why does David not have therapy? Who knows, maybe he wasn't as severely traumatised as Elizabeth, maybe he does just at a different schedule.
I don’t agree. It’s implied that the Crying Child saw something, but that he misunderstood it. If he saw a springlock failure, that wouldn’t be a misunderstanding. This is why I believe in ID’s Fantasy’s theory that he saw the Puppet around Charlie, thinking it was the one who harmed her.
Thank you!! I'm delighted you liked the sprites. It started as a need for a William image that wasn't from the graphic novels and then ballooned into doing as many as I could 😂
Great theory; I'm kinda surprised that you didn't mention the "abandoned" feel on the underground facility at Dittophobia. Nor even explaining the fear experience but it's no biggie. Still a great theory.
Yeah that was the one aspect of SL I decided to not inspect as I view it more of a FNAF 4 topic. And tbh I need more time and research to develop a solid theory on that whole aspect of the lore. I have one in mind but want to make sure it's airtight (or as airtight as a fnaf theory can be) before I put it out there.
I’d like to propose that the final cutscene of SL custom night is actually *just* a teaser for FNAF 6, and doesn’t say anything about Mike being the protag of 3. In that cutscene, Ennard separates from Mike, Mike comes back to life, and William survived the FNAF 3 fire. That’s 4 separate characters still alive and roaming around, and it just so happens that William, Michael, Baby, and Ennard are all in FNAF 6. “I’m going to come find you” is indicative of Mike reuniting with his father, and his sister, in one big happy family.
Wow. Just wow. I went into this watching it as background noise but got totally drawn in. As a long-term FNAF fan, I can confidently say this is my favorite current Sister Location theory, it totally blew me away and finally made things make sense for me (personally). Not only that, but the writing is clear and concise. The video presentation is engaging and unique, and its delivered confidentaly. Overall probably the best theory I've seen in a while. You just gained a new subscriber!
Thank you so much that's really kind of you to say!! I'm delighted people are enjoying these videos and I'm working hard to get the next one out as soon as possible!
THIS IS THE BEST DAY! FIRST THIS VIDEO AND NOW AN UNDENIABLY CANON FNAF TIMELINE. Thanks for making the start of half term (England) amazing. Respect 👏
Idk if ur going to reply but are you only sticking to the games (except Fury's Rage & Freddy In Space 2) or are you also going to do the books like Fazbear Frights?
I like the premise of the video, that we can hinge everything around "Sister Location" being connected to "the sister location". The problem is that Scott has had to change the direction of the story before so we can't actually count on his intentions at the time of creation. Look at "the box" from FNAF 4 having to be scrubbed from relevance. That's why I generally prefer looking at hard evidence that can't be moved without there being retcons to official lore, rather than shaky evidence such as plot threads Scott might have been pointing us to.
I would generally agree - but Scott has said that he planned out the story more thoroughly after FNAF 4 - as he was unhappy with the reception to the fourth game. Tbh I think SL and Pizza Sim both stuck pretty close to Scott's intentions
It’s genuinely kind of sickening seeing such a high quality channel with only 8k subscribers, I truly hope this takes off even more than your first video!
I've been editing videos since I was twelve (I had a long buried Minecraft channel 😂) and then over the years transitioned into filmmaking. I just finished my fourth year in Film School and I minored in editing - though the majority of my graphics work is self taught. Thanks for the kind words!
@@UnwitheredTruth The graphics, editing, and music are all great. Paced well, fit together and tease. You definitely have a knack for it! Do you have any personal projects/stories you plan on releasing on this channel?
Only thing that is missing is when or how Afton asked Michael to put his sister back together. He was sealed when Michael entered the bunker, but if Afton gave Michael directions ("it was right where you said it was"), it shouldn't have taken him that long to find it. I guess there could be a lot of time between him breaking down animatronics and when he comes back for Golden Freddy.
I considered discussing it but it's really only speculation rather than properly evidence based. I like to imagine that William knew the risks of breaking into Freddy's to get their remnant - so he set up a dead-man-switch which Michael received at some point near to the start of SL. "Michael - if you're reading this, then I am dead. And there are things you should know about my past..." type beat.
This is the first video of yours I see and I was so shocked when I saw you only started doing videos like a month ago. These are some scrumptious brilliant editing and narrating skills. Better than literally all of the fnaf videos I've seen prior and I've seen a lot. You dont get fooled by common misunderstandings like the double lit up eyes and it's so satisfying hearing you talk about something you clearly have a deep understanding of. 10000/10 I'm happy with this timeline and you filled in many plotholes I was in doubt for a while. Definitely a deserved follow!
9:12 And this is exactly why I feel like a good chunk of the fanbase is fed up with the franchise & why there's so much push back with the books being cannon. People have spent years picking apart every little detail only to be told "oh those details don't matter, but THESE ones do." Everyone picks and chooses which details are relevant so they can construct a narrative because truthfully Scott is a very piss poor storyteller. Without doing so you end up going crazy other all the details that Scott would probably now consider as mistakes. Which is infuriating for long time fans to be told that the details we've been analyzing for so long were never even relevant because Scott one day got bored and decided he wanted to change the direction of the story.
The editing in this video is REALLY good. Makes the channel stand out from other fnaf theorists, and its the first time I’ve been engaged w the visuals of a fnaf theory vid in a long time
Litteraly the second video and the quality has already improved. It was good in the first one, and now its even better. Absolutely love the theory as well. Can't wait to see more.
As your channel states, the theories that are seemingly the most *withered* in the fandom become un-withered on this channel, and for a newbie, you *don’t* disappoint! 😅
Can we just talk about the editing quality of this video? It's great. Add clear explanations and story-telled way to present the theory to the mix, and you got yourself an amazing video. Well done and thank you! 💪
It is SO nice to see someone treat Fnaf lore as an actual story, most fans just link questionably related stuff together to "answer" questions (See; some rando being the FNAF 3 protag instead of mike cause... book said so, even though it makes no sense even in context of the book)
This is genuinely the most coherent theory of the timeline I've seen, and lines up extremely well with all relevant events. It doesn't make huge leaps and isn't structured based entirely on assumptions that were already questionable like 99% of theories out there.
1. How do you edit so good (compliment) and 2. I never thought about fnaf one being after sister location, lets all go ahead and give this man a sub, he really deserves it.
Banger video! I agreed with what you said for the most part. What I loved was how you brought up how we should be viewing the series as a story rather than an infallible piece of media. I wish more people viewed the series that way.
I love this theory. It matches my original thoughts on the early days of circus babys pizza world but disproves my placement of the events sister location in my personal timeline(i originally placed it before the events of fnaf 2) and changes the rest of my timeline as a whole. I originally thought that at this point william would go into hiding after the MCI under an alias and leave michael(who would be 17 at this point since i considered him to be 13 during the bite of 83) with instructions to free his sister. He would then discover his father’s motives and also get scooped which would set him on a mission to undo his fathers actions setting him up as the nightguard in night 7 of fnaf 2 and the nightguard in all of fnaf 1. Both times he would try to get them scrapped only succeeding with the toys but failing to get the classics scrapped. In my personal timeline scrap baby and molten freddy would exist a lot earlier which i didnt really have a problem with but now i cant work with that since now i know the funtimes aren’t possessed yet which would mean that they only one who was possessed was baby which now thinking about it wouldnt make sense for afton to return to the fnaf 1 location to harvest remnant since he doesnt have the funtimes to experiment on. The new timeline that you proposed makes a sense and mends the plot holes that mine had and honestly is better. But it sucks that now in the new timeline mike and fritz are just unlucky individuals who happen to smell bad and are not actually jus aliases for michael afton:( I also had michael set up as this rlly cool protagonist who seen it all and knows the weakness of each animatronic but now it turns out he was only involved in fnaf 3, sister location, and pizzeria simulator which is a little late to the party. But still i completely endorse your new timeline and will probably use it going forward:)
I mean, Fritz and Mike could both still be Michael Afton, just that he hasn't been scooped yet and is just a regular guy. The Logbook and FNAF 4 nightmares do imply that Michael was at both the FNAF 2 and FNAF 1 locations as well, not to mention "Smith" and "Schmidt" are the same name just in different languages or something. So he doesn't have to just be involved in 3, SL, and PS, but if he was in 1 and 2 as well then he wouldn't have experienced Sister Location yet according to this theory.
@@legoboy7107 i never thought of that actually. I guess it would still make sense for him to go to the fnaf 1 and 2 locations even before he got scooped now that i think about it. That would also mean that this michael even as a regular guy never took showers.
Fun little thought about the clown mask Ennard wears: since all SL animatronics are symbols of Afton's family members (baby for Elizabeth, Ballora for his wife, etc), it could be that the mask was for animatronic for Michael or William itself.
Phenomenal fucking theory & animation at the end It orders the main events of the story and doesn't focus on smaller details that might have been jokes or one-off gags (ie, odor). keep up the content king you're great
In the Silver Eyes trilogy, we see that William Afton did survive a previous springlock incident, or multiple springlock incidents. Was William Afton the springlock failure that occurred that demanded the springlock suits to be no longer be used?
I did consider this at one point! Right now I can't remember what made me second guess it - but if there's enough competing evidence I could definitely try working it into a future video
I'm glad that you're a person who thinks of the story from a logical standpoint, because Scott didn't even have a full story planned out to begin with, so it would be silly to assume he knew what he was doing the whole time. Also, your editing is amazing, it makes your videos even more appealing to watch! You're definitely someone who was worth subscribing to 👍
Man this was really well done! This makes a lot of sense, is presented well, and the step by step break down doesn't leave anything to interpretation and its really clean and explained well. Subbed and looking forward to more! Keep it up.
The baby quote at the beginning, idk how people hear “at least the way the were supposed to” and don’t think “huh that means someone tried and failed to use it right”
Second vid ive watched from you and your theory’s are so well put together and the production of the videos are so high in quality and im loving the direction the new theorists are heading in!
Thank you for addressing the fact that a lot of previous theories and timelines have huge, untenable time gaps in them. I’ve heard multiple people claim that Michael was a walking corpse and chasing after his father for what ends up being over a decade, which if you actually think about, is pretty ridiculous. Molten Freddy wandering around for 30 years? Without being spotted by ANYONE? Just asking the simple question of what were all the characters doing during those time gaps makes them fall apart almost immediately. There are huge leaps of logic you need to make in order to answer questions about certain characters managing to exist for these huge stretches of time without people spotting, discovering, or destroying them. I’m just glad someone pointed out the illogic of assuming the time gaps that are produced by some theories are correct. If your theory requires monsters to have been free roaming unchallenged for more than a few years, then you might need to rethink it.
Even to add to that further, consider that Henry's plan was to lure all the remaining souls back by creating a new Freddy's and gathering as much remnant/agony fuelled memorabilia of the past. But, if in those 30 years, there was THREE different Fazbear restaurants/attractions, you think Molten Freddy or Scrap Baby would have slinked their way to Freddy's at least once.
@@UnwitheredTruth yes, I agree. There are, for sure, reasonable explanations to these huge time gaps but they almost always end up giving me more questions. For example, one could argue that maybe Scrap Baby/Molten Freddy went into some sort of hibernation for close to three decades so they were never seen- but then I ask why? Where? And what woke them up? And why wake up now? You could argue they were trapped somewhere but if they were, then how did they get out? And how did Henry not find them? And if they were already trapped, why didn’t he just change plans and destroy them where they already were? Occam’s razor says that’s too many questions for the theories to be correct. Until Scott says so, any huge time gaps are probably wrong.
27:43 A tad unrelated, but FNaF 3 taking place in 2015 makes way more sense chronistically than it taking place around the early 2020s as many people assume, both in terms of current events and trends in the mid 2010s.
Most assume that FNAF 3 takes place in the early 2020s because the previous location (The one from the first game) seemingly closed during the 1990s and the description of FNAF 3 told us how Fazbear's Fright: The Horror Attraction opened 30 years after the closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. However, it's also possible that the game takes place during the late 2010s; 30 years after the closing of the FNAF 2 location (You know, the location of the previous game; something that would make sense from an storytelling standpoint).
I'm pretty sure Scott said that FNAF 3 takes place 30 years after the minigame, and in the minigame, we see the FNAF 1 location abandoned, the doors boarded up and the ceiling leaking. Mice are everywhere and the robots are left abandoned. It physically can't take place at 2015.
@@xM0nst3Rx wait. I'm confused about the lore now. So was William still alive after fnaf 1? But wasn't the phone guy talking about the sealed rooms, which was after William locking in the a suit?
@@Sergonizer yes, FNAF 1 happened before William's death, hence explaining why the place was abandoned and left to ruin in the FNAF 3 minigames. Phone Guy talking about sealed rooms takes place before FNAF 1, so it was referring to an older event. my guess is, after the murders took place, they put on the walls to hide the evidence of William's murders to keep the places open. Of course, it didn't work as they abandoned FNAF 1 location, and Phone Guy got killed there. also the Safe Room in FNAF 1 not being sealed off, as is shown in FNAF 3 minigames, indicates that William didn't murder any kids in FNAF 1 location. so it must be a new building.
This video was extremely well put together and honestly, as someone who genuinely couldn’t see how MoltenMCI could work time wise or narratively, this actually convinced me My only real issue (while not as major anymore) is still the survival logbook’s timeline placement, mainly because so much of it presents itself as being a book from FNAF 1 by connecting it to Mike and various drawings with the characters, but also the reference to Sister location seeming to imply it’s after it I’ve seen people come to the idea that it’s actually a book sold by Fazbears Fright as a fake book because of the FNAF 3 office drawings, but two big issues for me on that being A. Their isn’t anything else in the book that supports this idea beside those drawings unlike everything else the book provides like connecting the two Mikes and the FFPS Grave name, so why wouldn’t Scott make that just as clear if that’s the case And B. A lot of things in the book would seem to contradict it like the post-its implying it was given to a new guard and stuff like the coupons being shown to be real in stuff like the books and even the ITP game (this book being their first appearance) Idk if you could possibly cover this in a later video but it would be extremely helpful in fully understanding it The only explanation I could think of without breaking to much would be that the Sister location connections from mike are actually foreshadowing to his future fate rather than references to past events, as he seems unaware of Aftons involvement in everything and still questioning why everything is happening to him
This one video single handedly made me subscribe. Your videos are absolutely amazing and the effort put into them deserves appreciation! Also the theory itself is well made. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the golden-freddy-only-has-one-lit-eye tangent. It has confused me so much when people say there are two lights,,, just because,, two of the holes have light..? Like clearly only one eye socket has a light source (defining light source here as whatever it is that is lighting the other ones). I guess it doesn't really matter at the end of the day I'm also glad that the "fired b/c of odor" (despite the fact that... there's no one to smell the player character?) was brought back into the conversation with this video as well
Congratulations! Regarding your first video. I understood that you intuited that the action of the first fnaf game would be in 1989. This aspect is possible but I have seen other theories and including forums that propose the idea that the first game was played in 1998 because it is said that Friday November 13 is a symbolic date for the classic fnaf era, it being also found at the end of the fnaf 2 game on the check from the day of the bite in 87. I guess that in fnaf 1 November 13 also falls on a Friday, and the closest variants would be 1992 and 1998. And many people go for the year 1998 because Ralph says in fnaf 1 that the animatronics have been singing the same songs for 20 years ---possibly a reference to fredbear family dinner which opened in the late 70s.
I've always understood Baby's remark about "I don’t think it was ever used. At least, not the way it was meant to be used..." as suggesting that the suit had been utilized, but not for its original purpose of entertaining children. Instead, it seems to imply that it was used as a method to carry out murder or possibly even was the murder weapon itself.
I believe in lore terms that the "tampering with animatronics" and "odor" was because the body's in the animatronics began to decompose leaving a stench on them they blamed on the only person their left with them unsupervised which would be Mike. Obviously I could be wrong but if you disagree plz elaborate on why.
I loved that little segment at the end. The one explaining how things went down in a simple summary. Saying it was extremely helpful in my understanding is an understatement!
I felt that Dittophobia is more related to FNAF 4 than SL, and honestly I'm not a 100% Talesgames believer so I decided to save Dittophobia for a FNAF 4 video. Also time is so hard to pin down in that story due to the nature of what's happening to Rory so I felt it was wishy washy evidence at best at times
this is my first video of yours and it's amazing! already a huge fan :) i love how you look at the lore and how you present things, both in reasoning and editing! great stuff :D also, as a fan since the series started I really love your analysis of less talked-about details that people have forgotten about
26:34 William could not take apart the animatronics after fnaf 1. Because from Ralph's messages from FNAF 3, it is known that the secret rooms were sealed before Ralph's death, and Ralph's death occurs shortly before FNAF 1. Which means that during FNAF 1 William is in the secret room in a springtrap suit.
Then way are the classic animatronic shells now empty husks that bear significant resemblance to the heads in the night five end screen? (Freddy, Bonnie, & Foxy missing their ears and Chia missing his lower beak)
We discover in a Fazbear Frights story that the false walls over the safe rooms can be opened from the outside, but are unable to move from inside the room. The building in Follow Me is clearly abandoned/in terrible disrepair, so it never made sense to me to say THAT'S when Ralph made those tapes. The Safe Rooms are sealed to cover evidence from the MCI, and then William returns years later and gets trapped behind the false wall.
This was definitely an interesting take and i love how straightforward it is with detangling a lot of lore and meanings behind things within the game and those that came before. One theory that I had that came to mind fairly recently is that there may have been more than one Sister Location and Circus Baby's is one of the only known 'sister locations' we know of and the others were never mentioned or revealed. There could have been more Circus Baby's locations or other locations that don't connect or even relate to Circus Baby's at all and they could have had similar incidents with springlocks like we see/hear about in the games.
People always seem to wonder why exactly William Afton does the things that he does. That maybe the tragedy of both his son and his daughter is what led him to his insanity. Now, while he was definitely pushed over the edge by certain events, I think people are too attached to the idea of William being some tragic character. The fact of the matter is, not all men in this world are good. While I would like to see more about William's character BEFORE he became the murderer we know today, I do believe everyone needs to remember that sometimes there is not intricate or complex reason. Sometimes bad people just want to do bad things.
I like this video overall and the two funtime foxies one for each location matches that teaser for fnaf 2 with the foxies at the curtain plus the time line adds up and makes enough sense I really like this
So gonna pin this comment here for anyone with frequently asked comments over the last few days!
Q1. How could William be springlocked after FNAF 1 if the room is sealed when Phone Guy is still alive?
A1. Here's a TH-cam Short I made on the subject: th-cam.com/video/YoQ47sr2qss/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheUnwitheredTruth
Q2. Baby's Lines mean the springlock was used for nefarious purposes
A2. Maybe? I toyed with the idea that Afton got the springlocks intentionally decommissioned, but struggled a bit with the reasoning. Not 100% on what it would be if she did mean to imply that, but regardless, my point is that the fact there's a springlock in a game named Sister Location - a title which comes from a tape about springlocks, means, in my mind, the only reasonable explanation is that Scott wanted to answer the question we had from FNAF 3.
Q3. Do you believe in WillCare? William doesn't care about his kids.
A3. I don't believe in WillCare - just based on the way Scott has described his intentions with the story, I don't think his intention is to make Afton a "tragic" figure, even if that means a more complex story. I believe that (if Dave does indeed die first as I suggested here) then William wants Henry's family to be as broken as his. It's a choice made out of spite of Henry, rather than grief or love for his children.
If there are more I see frequently asked/commented I'll make sure to add them. Thanks for over 100k views!
Nobody cares little kid
For the 2nd one a theory I heard is that William use the spring lock suit to get rid of the evidence for Elizabeth’s death.
When Elizabeth died William did not wanting to bring suspicion to the funtimes
So he made it look like Elizabeth was killed by the springlocks
Hence the whole “ at least not the way it was meant to be used” and baby connections/knowledge of it
This is definitely one of my favorite theory videos. But there's a contradiction in the last segment. If Dave died first, couch person from MM would have to be the mom, so she should be present during the fnaf 4 minigames, looking after the kids
I always took the "not the way it was meant to be used" as "they hid bodies in it." Because, you know, wearing the suit at all (either to entertain guests or to kill kids) would be using it for the purpose it was made for: to be worn when not in animatronic mode. So I don't think the "nefarious purposes," as addressed in this comment, are the thing that needs to be debunked.
@@Pikza203 A theory that goes around is that she divorced Afton and didn't want any form of contact with him (even through their kids) or has unalived herself after losing custody of her children. This could've been before Michael started to bully Dave.
Because Afton would rarely be home because of the launch (or rising fame) of Fredbear's and couldn't care less to hire a babysitter, he'd leave his children alone in the house, which would make Michael the responsible one since he was already a teenager.
I like the point you make on remembering first and foremost that this is Scott trying to tell a story rather than create an intricate history lesson with no room for error. As a writer myself I agree it's the best way to view this series and remain at least somewhat sane.
Knowing from what can glean from Scott in his not so abundant online presence, I think he is first and foremost a storyteller and a far second puzzle maker (Sorry Scott lol). With his personality in mind, it makes sense why everything about FNAF "doesn't seem to fit quite nicely" because yeah, it really wouldn't. I bet you Scott never really intended for FNAF to be an epic and yet here it is shaping up to be one. You could even argue that it already is one. So, boops and bopss here and there was bound to crop and there is only so much Scott can do and think ya know? So, FNAF is definitely more story-driven than puzzle-driven.
I've been on a huge kick lately of being less obsessed with lore and worldbuilding and logical details, and more on the ideas and themes within stories. I think that a lot of modern franchises are leaning too far into the logical details, this idea of one consistent lore, and that modern audiences are being trained to see things through that lens when really, that's kind of a recent approach to storytelling in the grand scheme of things.
In older stories, the details didn't matter - the ideas did, and what those ideas were trying to share were more important than any of the inconsistencies.
@@Mega-Brick I got that kick too, for the past 3 years and it's been weird. Lore can be fun but one of the problems is that there is always a limit, whether it's how much the author can write, or if viewers are looking too deep into something like the ending in FNAF 1 with the termination paper meaning anything other than Scott just joking. The biggest problem I had, which started the kick for me with Attack on Titan, was everyone being more focused on arguing the small details instead of how the story will go, or like you mentioned the ideas and themes within the story. It's nice when there are things behind a story but the story itself should have meaning and be enjoyable on its own.
If you wanna see a prime example of a story's lore conflicting with the themes of the story itself, check out Killzone and the debate on whether the Helghast were actually the bad guys, the developers intended for it to be nuanced but a lot of fans put a spin on it that gets a little tense...
I'm making a stories too & I've made some mistakes.
@@TaxHatingAmerican I blame the rise of CinemaSins and other professional nitpickers, at least to an extent. "Why didn't Frodo just fly to Mt Doom on an eagle?" should never have become an actually serious genre of questions.
In general, I think it helps to recontextualise any lore discussions as less of an "archeology paper" and more storytelling in it's own right. Yes, when making a theory you're still sticking to an overarching narrative as told by Scott or some other creator, but that narrative usually just consists of individual data points that you have to connect. Like a large paint-by-numbers puzzle with most of the numbers missing. And the focus on finding The One True Way to connect all the dots, I think, is a bit unfortunate, because there likely isn't one in the first place. Instead the fun lies in telling your own story within the confines of the lore. But as long as most people are more interested in definitively "solving" the lore - or watching Game Theorists solve it - that will always be the dominant way in which people approach these games: Like Scott is an omniscient puzzle maker who plucks events from a fully formed and consistant history that we just have to piece back together.
I really appreciate how the newest theories, like this one, are detangling the web of madness and showing this story to be way more straightforward - and the characters way more down-to-earth - than we've previously treated them. I feel like we're in the 'clean-up' phase of FNaF theorizing right now.
After the mikebot, MikeHell, mangledog, willcare, glitchafton, gregbot garbage era of 2018-2022, I’m glad we’re actually getting somewhere
I love matpat's theories and all, but he had a serious tendency to just grab onto his first impressions, ridiculous as they may be, and just not let go until they crumble to dust. At which time, he's too far behind to actually see what he missed out on. Looking at you, Purple Phone guy.
I think this is what led to the story seeming more convoluted than it is. Though, it is still pretty convoluted.
Yeah I agreed, we are now filling the plot hole that manage to make sense a rather than throwing another concept and see if it sticks to the wall
In its defense, Glitch Afton actually made sense post Help Wanted and pre Security Breach but yeah it's refreshing to see new theories like this @dinoguy163
Boy, we really were in need of that. It's another reason for me to enjoy the movie a lot actually - it's not unnecessarily complicated, and the story flowed rather well. It wasn't perfect, not at all, but still, had a good time with it.
You and withered circle came out of nowhere and started making the most realistic/precise and unbiased theories of all fnaf theorists, this was cinema again.
There's a withered truth?
@@Robotdestroyer0they might mean witheredcircle?
@@thumbgoblin4716 oh
I prefer withered truth over this guy
@@thumbgoblin4716yes thats what am referring to, thank u, i mistyped the name
The odor and tampering with the animatronics was a meta joke. You were tampering with the animatronics by changing their AI level and the game just said you were a sweatlord gamer for beating 4/20 mode
Yeah, that make sense like it was obviously a trolling subtle 4th wall break, nothing more than that
I hadn’t thought about this, do you think Scott could’ve seen the community take it as lore and played into it a little? Or it still remains just a joke
@@NiloQuest Clearly it wasn't meant as a lore hint at the time, but it's completely possible that further down the line it was made into one. Most of this game's lore was made up by Scott as he went from game to game. I mean, at first it was 5 kids - 5 animatronics but then it turned out there were six and apparently another 5 and then some on the side and that one in Freadbear's - you see where I'm going. Scott isn't a good storyteller, and surely he doesn't have a solid explenation for everything. He just went with the flow and intnetionally kept things very vague so that the small inconsistensies remain largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of the story or so that the debate keeps on going refusing to let the franchise die
@@borealis5379 Yeah that makes sense, but its funny to look back on all the “lore” now and it’s just “ur stinky” 😂
There's also the point another theorist brought up is that no one would hire a corpse, and if the remnant healed him then he wouldn't smell like a corpse anymore in the first place
THANK YOU holy mother of god I seriously think the "two lights" in GF's mask is the single biggest oversight from the community, it very VERY clearly isn't two lights and that throws off so much assumed implications.
this!!! i am a big believer in goldenduo, but even when i was like,,, 12, the "two lights" evidence was so unbelievably a stretch
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVERRRR 😭🙏
"There are four lights!" -Jean Luc Picard
0:16 “Shhhhhhh… 🤫 *Yourinsideyousaysomethingthatcamefrom my old pizzeria… Yourcreatingaheartmonitorthatcausesthespringlockstocome loose…* “ 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️
honestly why did she talk like that
i literally thought she was just saying shit
@@tobysinbadshes gonna make a name for herself here
That is by far the most cohesive story line ive ever heard out of a fnaf theory video, especially the call back to him in the books, i think thats the best we're going to get for a long while
Seriously, that line from William on why he killed the OG 5 kids in the books universe blew my mind (I am not much of a book reader so that's why), and people just ignored that info like it's nothing cause "oh books in different universe than games", if it weren't for the books, we wouldn't have found out half the names of these characters or have any idea on how the supernatural works in this franchise, I love how the FNAF community is so focused on analyzing and trying to piece together every little detail they find like a jigsaw puzzle, they forget the story aspect of it all, and miss the things that are right in front of us, like Henry straight up telling us William kept rickrolling and never giving up on using the MCI kids for his own sick experiments, Willy slaughtering 5 innocent children for freaking science, after being inspired by his own daughter accidentally getting captured by Baby and crushed to death inside her, is absolutely insane bruh.
agreed
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT OUT LOUD: FNAF should be treated as Scott writing a story, not fitting puzzle pieces together to form a whole. I always viewed FNAF this way, as it makes the most logical sense and it helps explain the confusing points in the games. I'm so happy that sister location was placed after fnaf 1 because I never thought it made sense for it to take place before FNAF 1. This video is outstanding at explaining the meaning behind Scott's writing choices, while also giving unbiased evidence that the games AND the silver eyes trilogy gives us. I was always confused on why the funtime animatronics would exist before the MCI, but this video helped explain why it does make sense and helps fuel William's motivation. This suggests that William was always into the supernatural and had a thing for science since the beginning, not just because of his ego being so high that he wanted to ruin Henry's life and reputation. I 100% agree with this take and I'm so glad you explained the quiet parts out loud. It all makes sense and I'm shocked we missed the sister location connection from FNAF 3.
Well, stories are still criticized for having plot holes and inconsistencies. So why can’t those criticisms be said about the FNAF lore?
Clearly Scott didn’t know the story from beginning to end and was only making the story as he was developing each next game.
Which comes plot holes and inconsistencies.
I don’t agree with blaming the fans for giving constructive criticism
@@ki11aqueen5 oh of course! I agree that FNAF can be criticized, especially since there’s been a lot of issues over the years with trying to tell the story. Yeah Scott never knew from the beginning what he was doing and had to write the story on the spot, hence why there’s so many inconsistencies if he couldn’t draft it out first from the beginning. Makes sense for him to change things up if they don’t fit his vision, but at the same time it’s led to a lot of problems with the games and how the story is being told. I definitely agree that it wasn’t done in the best way and I don’t think blaming fans for criticism is the best either
@@phantommoon11regardless of how messed up scott wrote the lore, he made sister location for the fans, he did it just for us.
@@ganja_burn_9516 he did and I appreciate him doing that
He didn’t have to, he could have ended it at 4, but he didn’t.
@@phantommoon11 Everyone during FNAF 4 coming out: *Going crazy over Dream Theory*
Scott: Hey guys, here's another hint, who are the nightguards in all three of the games?
Matpat: Oh! It's Crying Child who's dreaming everything from FNAF 1-3!
Scott: *Makes Sister Location, literally a second into the game, it shows you were playing as Mike this whole time*
Everyone: Ohhhh...
Scott: Seriously guys, thought the reverse FNAF 1 phone call made it obvious.
Everyone: We thought that was just an easter egg that didn't mean anything.
Scott: *Facepalms* even after I told you that I didn't put any easter eggs in it? *Sighs* man, this is why I love you guys ♥
>SL lore is simpler than you think
>30+ minute video 💀💀💀💀💀
For a guy that watched the 8 hour fnaf video, this one is a breeze
@@BRAZILIAN_MIKUthat one was also very good
30 minutes it's perfect
simple ≠ short
@@bossowl33 True
Short is the story at the end
23:45 thank you so much for finally pointing it out, now i just need someone to point out that it's not gone in the good ending, just obscured in darkness and i'll be so damn happy
Damn I should have done that during the rant - to me it seems to obvious that I almost forget that I have to reiterate it.
@UnwitheredTruth YES people also keep forgetting scott usually like to hide golden Freddy in the shadows, it's just here he's doing it literally
26:39 If Michael is actually talking to William, i.e. Diegetic. Then it would be a phone call. There are other ways for Michaels monologue to be diegetic, maybe its Michael talking to himself, maybe its Michael rehearsing what he will say to his father
Theories aside, I really want to give credit and appreciation to the way you present information in your videos. It's very clean, clear and just fun. Like editing the Fredbears poster to be covered in blood, the logos for Baby's Pizza World and Rental, the animation of Withered Freddy going insane bc of the theory - great stuff
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you like the different art assets, I got sick of trying to comb through fan art and graphic novels to find some piece of official art that matched what I was talking about so I said why not just do it myself
Okay but can we just talk about how cool that whole animation was at 9:02 😭
FR I haven't seen anyone talk about it, IT'S AWESOME
yes we may 🙌🙌🙌🙌
YES! it's soooo good
I think its absolutely criminal that I haven't seen a SINGLE theorist talk about or review your theories. Maybe I'm missing them but I cant find a single vid for either of them.
I would love to see some of the bigger FNAFtubers taking a look at the video! Every like, comment, and share helps so I appreciate it! If there's anyone in particular you'd wanna see cover it I'd send it to them directly. I'd do it but I don't wanna self-promo too hard ;)
To me "I don't think it was ever used, at least in the way it was meant to be used" has a pretty clear meaning - this suit WAS used, but not for entertainment. It was only used by Afton.
I guess there's a second possible interpretation - assuming that Baby is saying that the suit was MEANT to be used for evil, then it only being used for entertainment would match the sentence, but the first seems a lot more likely
Or someone got springlocked
@@johnjordan211 Someone getting spring locked makes no sense to me.
"I don't think it was ever used, at least not in the way it was meant to be used. Too dangerous"
Doesn't work in the context of someone got spring locked in this suit. Like, yes someone did get springlocked - but not in this specific suit. That's how they know it's too dangerous to wear. But it was never worn. Not by an employee, not for it's intended purpose.
Which means that it was worn, but never by someone that was planning to use it for it's intended purpose.
@@RancorSnp or it springlocked someone
@@johnjordan211
>says someone got springlocked
>gets a long response from OC saying that it couldn't have been a springlock failure
>says the same thing
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
What did he mean by this?
@m0scl963 becuasw the argument he made is dumb
finally someone cleared up the fnaf 3 ending with the lights (23:50). It's bothered me so much when theorists try to use it to say golden freddy has two souls, because by that logic chica has 2 or 3 souls (why is a soul in her mouth? not enough eyes?) and freddy has 2 as well.
Agreed, but I will say, just because that may be original intention doesn’t mean Scott hasn’t now in incorporated it into the story
The reason why people thought that was the case was probably cuz the aura from the others aren’t as bright as Golden Freddy’s
I don't think michaels entire body was taxidermied, I think the scooper tore his stomach open and Ennard had to make do by forcing their way into the nooks and crannies
If it tore up a way to his spine through the stomach, enard could very easily mimic the position of his bones and nerves to control michael with dexterity. When enard leaves michael, he falls to the ground like a suit and not like a skeleton, that means his bones were broken. Since bones hold bone marrow that creates new cells, it's possible that the remnant soaked in the bones and they fixed themselves while creating cells infused with remnant
possible. but I like the mental image of a purple flesh suit walking around and looking for jobs better, I have to admit lol.
There is an old steam post by Scott Cawthon that suggests that Ennard did indeed remove Michaels insides rather than just slipping inside around his organs.
When asked how the Scooper even worked, Scott basically said the Scooper just punched a hole in mike and then he was emptied out "like a pumpkin"
Fucking horrific.
*Aggressively slurps water from your body to fit inside*
I like how you explained William's motives as a mix of curiosity and revenge, rather than just him being evil. I always thought William's crimes were related to his experiments, but I couldn't quite piece all the evidence together. Because of that, I really respect the work you put into this video. It deserves way more attention than it has right now!
It's going to be fire, you genuinely might have convinced me of FNAF 1 being in 1989
Edit: IT WAS FIRE EVERYONE AS A THEORIST I CAN CONFIRM
@@WitheredCircle Thank you! Excited to see what people think. It's funny though cause I watched your Molten Freddy video yesterday and I discuss a lot of the same points later on in this video!
@@UnwitheredTruth Wow, funny to see we watch each other lol. Hoping to catch you at the premiere soon!
My 2 legends together
@@shantishan1172 yessir
@@UnwitheredTruth btw do you have a discord acc? I wanna discuss something with you there so if you could email it to me or something that would be great
7:54 dang I have a different interpretation of those lines. I got more of this suit was not used for its intended purpose but it was used to kill /hurt someone intentionally. Which could be interesting depending on where this incident was placed time wise to the bite of 83.
i absolutely love how you ACTUALLY regarded the crying child as “David,” because it was recently proven.
Where was it proven?
@@BrixBlox i think someone managed to clean up the old "evan" theory for cc's name in the security logbook. honestly fee;s a bit anticlimactic for the nameless kid who we barely know all series to be given a basic bitch ass name as evan or dave though, so i don't personally believe either.
@@BrixBloxit’s a bit pretentious to say anything on fnaf lore is proven to be fair but what they’re referring to is the old “Evan” theory was “figured out” basically they used the exact way they found Cassidy’s name and used it to find Dave. “Evan” was using the same theory up until the last letter, but “Dave” uses the same system for every single letter. Virtually making it as cannon as Cassidy’s name! Which is still argued on, but widely accepted
More proof the springlock suit is the one that caused the springlock failure, inorder to decomoress the springs you need a hand crank, this suit in specific requires us to constantly wind up the spings by hand FROM INSIDE the suit, which means the suit isnt functioning correctly
Honestly, I always thought the interpretation for baby's "I don't think it was ever used. At least, not the way it was *meant* to be used. Too dangerous" to be "The suit wasn't ever used by Afton to kill" (because we know *his* intentions for the suits were to use them to kill) because it was "too dangerous" for him to do so, and therefore to her knowledge was never used
Well that was amazing. Time to watch it again.
Thank you so much! BTW I'm sorry I misspelled Buunny in the shoutout 😂 I only realised it was spelled differently when I saw your comment on that Gibi video from a few days ago about him spelling it correctly
You know this is going to be cinema
This is really solid. If you'll permit me, I have two questions about the last bit, where you talk about the early days. Honestly, it makes sense why you didn't discuss them here, but I've got curiosity.
1. What is your opinion on the grave order in Help Wanted and how/if that interacts with this theory? You present Dave, then Charlie, then the MCI kids as the Death Order, but a not uncommon interpretation of the graves place Charlie last.
2. Where's the SAVETHEM minigame fit in with the murders? You don't mention them, so I'm curious.
I'm pretty sure the HW2 grave order is meant to represent the order the MCI victims were put to rest. Plus, there have been things that have hinted at the death order in other installments. There's more evidence for it being Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz then Cassidy.
1. As stated, most likely when they were put to rest. If you take UCN and Frights into account, it makes a lot of sense. Cassidy remains after 6, but eventually departs from UCN and rests her soul, as OMC bids her, leaving William to Andrew. Charlie may or may not also be hanging around in UCN, but even if she isn’t, she’s still around because she is the one to destroy William in the end in Frights. Only then does she rest, the last in the grave order.
2. An event Scott wants us to forget. But, if I were to try and make it fit, it could be William experimenting yet again, this time without direct contact between the deceased and the robots to see if there’s a reaction. And there is, and they want his head for it, so he pisses off to the day shift.
The HW2 graves are not the death order, thats just impossible. The HW2 grave puzzle is one giant reference to Happiest day.
The dolls are placed on graves in the order that the 5 children arrive to the Party, with the exception of Freddy whos minigame can be completed on any night unlike the others whos minigames can only be done on certain nights. The puppet is the final grave because they arrive last to the party and deliver the cake to the children.
This Easter egg is then used to open the door leading to the bonnie mask, which is again another reference to Happiest day. The Bonnie mask was worn by the bully in Fredbears and the layout of Fredbears is litterally just the Happiest day minigame but flipped backwards
@@Skibbutz i mean, why would it be bonnie kid specifically? there's nothing special about him. it'd make more sense to stick a foxy mask in there, or a fredbear plush. sure, the bonnie mask shows up, but it feels a bit to random in this interpretation to be locked in a chest.
@@hotpocketsat2am because the HW2 player IS the bonnie bully from fnaf 4, thats why the mask is "familiar" to him. Cassies dad is the Bonnie Bully
8:38 If she witnessed a springlock failure, then that could tie into "Remember what you saw". If William (via one of the fredbear nannycam plushies) telling David/CC "Remember what you saw" is referring to a springlock failure he witnessed, and Elizabeth knows about springlock failures, then this could mean that both David and Elizabeth witnessed a springlock failure possibly in the *employees only/red-door room* at Fredbears sometime before the events of the FNAF 4 minigames.
This might explain why Elizabeth and Mrs. Afton are absent during the events of FNAF 4, they might be away at therapy due to Elizabeths trauma. If they are, then why does David not have therapy? Who knows, maybe he wasn't as severely traumatised as Elizabeth, maybe he does just at a different schedule.
I don’t agree. It’s implied that the Crying Child saw something, but that he misunderstood it. If he saw a springlock failure, that wouldn’t be a misunderstanding.
This is why I believe in ID’s Fantasy’s theory that he saw the Puppet around Charlie, thinking it was the one who harmed her.
@@JacobBarton721 I doubt his constant sobbing is due to such a simple misunderstanding
@@Lockendrik2121
That’s what was implied by “misunderstood in the eyes of a child.”
Great video! Love the thought and effort you put into your theories! Also, as always, the art direction was great (especially loved those sprites)!
Thank you!! I'm delighted you liked the sprites. It started as a need for a William image that wasn't from the graphic novels and then ballooned into doing as many as I could 😂
Great theory; I'm kinda surprised that you didn't mention the "abandoned" feel on the underground facility at Dittophobia. Nor even explaining the fear experience but it's no biggie. Still a great theory.
Yeah that was the one aspect of SL I decided to not inspect as I view it more of a FNAF 4 topic. And tbh I need more time and research to develop a solid theory on that whole aspect of the lore. I have one in mind but want to make sure it's airtight (or as airtight as a fnaf theory can be) before I put it out there.
This channel is an undiscovered gem!
Ayo no way I love your videos!!
I’d like to propose that the final cutscene of SL custom night is actually *just* a teaser for FNAF 6, and doesn’t say anything about Mike being the protag of 3. In that cutscene, Ennard separates from Mike, Mike comes back to life, and William survived the FNAF 3 fire. That’s 4 separate characters still alive and roaming around, and it just so happens that William, Michael, Baby, and Ennard are all in FNAF 6.
“I’m going to come find you” is indicative of Mike reuniting with his father, and his sister, in one big happy family.
Wow. Just wow.
I went into this watching it as background noise but got totally drawn in. As a long-term FNAF fan, I can confidently say this is my favorite current Sister Location theory, it totally blew me away and finally made things make sense for me (personally).
Not only that, but the writing is clear and concise. The video presentation is engaging and unique, and its delivered confidentaly. Overall probably the best theory I've seen in a while.
You just gained a new subscriber!
Thank you so much that's really kind of you to say!! I'm delighted people are enjoying these videos and I'm working hard to get the next one out as soon as possible!
Well im grabbing my popcorn. 🍿 One of the two videos just in reach 👏
THIS IS THE BEST DAY!
FIRST THIS VIDEO AND NOW AN UNDENIABLY CANON FNAF TIMELINE. Thanks for making the start of half term (England) amazing. Respect 👏
ElectroPlayz23@@ElectroPlayz23 Wahoo!! I'm glad you're excited!! And I was so curious what the second video was but now I know 😂 so thank YOU!
@@UnwitheredTruth ur welcome 🎉
Idk if ur going to reply but are you only sticking to the games (except Fury's Rage & Freddy In Space 2) or are you also going to do the books like Fazbear Frights?
Grabbing my popcorn and exotic butters
I like the premise of the video, that we can hinge everything around "Sister Location" being connected to "the sister location". The problem is that Scott has had to change the direction of the story before so we can't actually count on his intentions at the time of creation. Look at "the box" from FNAF 4 having to be scrubbed from relevance. That's why I generally prefer looking at hard evidence that can't be moved without there being retcons to official lore, rather than shaky evidence such as plot threads Scott might have been pointing us to.
I would generally agree - but Scott has said that he planned out the story more thoroughly after FNAF 4 - as he was unhappy with the reception to the fourth game. Tbh I think SL and Pizza Sim both stuck pretty close to Scott's intentions
@@UnwitheredTruth Well said.
It’s genuinely kind of sickening seeing such a high quality channel with only 8k subscribers, I truly hope this takes off even more than your first video!
I have a question, how have you acquired those editing skills, you’re quite skilled!!!
I've been editing videos since I was twelve (I had a long buried Minecraft channel 😂) and then over the years transitioned into filmmaking. I just finished my fourth year in Film School and I minored in editing - though the majority of my graphics work is self taught. Thanks for the kind words!
It's a shame that Unwithered Truth got more likes than you. Obviously, he's popular, but it also means that some people brushed over your comment.
@@8onnie8oyz uh uh, they're equal now :p
@@UnwitheredTruth The graphics, editing, and music are all great. Paced well, fit together and tease. You definitely have a knack for it! Do you have any personal projects/stories you plan on releasing on this channel?
Only thing that is missing is when or how Afton asked Michael to put his sister back together. He was sealed when Michael entered the bunker, but if Afton gave Michael directions ("it was right where you said it was"), it shouldn't have taken him that long to find it. I guess there could be a lot of time between him breaking down animatronics and when he comes back for Golden Freddy.
I considered discussing it but it's really only speculation rather than properly evidence based.
I like to imagine that William knew the risks of breaking into Freddy's to get their remnant - so he set up a dead-man-switch which Michael received at some point near to the start of SL. "Michael - if you're reading this, then I am dead. And there are things you should know about my past..." type beat.
This is the first video of yours I see and I was so shocked when I saw you only started doing videos like a month ago. These are some scrumptious brilliant editing and narrating skills. Better than literally all of the fnaf videos I've seen prior and I've seen a lot. You dont get fooled by common misunderstandings like the double lit up eyes and it's so satisfying hearing you talk about something you clearly have a deep understanding of. 10000/10 I'm happy with this timeline and you filled in many plotholes I was in doubt for a while. Definitely a deserved follow!
9:12 And this is exactly why I feel like a good chunk of the fanbase is fed up with the franchise & why there's so much push back with the books being cannon. People have spent years picking apart every little detail only to be told "oh those details don't matter, but THESE ones do." Everyone picks and chooses which details are relevant so they can construct a narrative because truthfully Scott is a very piss poor storyteller. Without doing so you end up going crazy other all the details that Scott would probably now consider as mistakes. Which is infuriating for long time fans to be told that the details we've been analyzing for so long were never even relevant because Scott one day got bored and decided he wanted to change the direction of the story.
The editing in this video is REALLY good. Makes the channel stand out from other fnaf theorists, and its the first time I’ve been engaged w the visuals of a fnaf theory vid in a long time
Litteraly the second video and the quality has already improved. It was good in the first one, and now its even better. Absolutely love the theory as well. Can't wait to see more.
As your channel states, the theories that are seemingly the most *withered* in the fandom become un-withered on this channel, and for a newbie, you *don’t* disappoint! 😅
I think Gibi's shout-out helped get you in people's algorithms. I'm glad I got the recommendation 😊
Can we just talk about the editing quality of this video? It's great. Add clear explanations and story-telled way to present the theory to the mix, and you got yourself an amazing video. Well done and thank you! 💪
Bro is a genius. Truly a new set of eyes were given to us. Thanks man.
It is SO nice to see someone treat Fnaf lore as an actual story, most fans just link questionably related stuff together to "answer" questions (See; some rando being the FNAF 3 protag instead of mike cause... book said so, even though it makes no sense even in context of the book)
withered freddy might just be my favorite design in the whole game. i love withered freddy. the unwithereds are still real. subscribed.
This is genuinely the most coherent theory of the timeline I've seen, and lines up extremely well with all relevant events. It doesn't make huge leaps and isn't structured based entirely on assumptions that were already questionable like 99% of theories out there.
the sheer production value on this is stunning, all of the animations are absurdly good 🫶🏽✨
seeing the jointless fingers of restored withered freddy move, is unnerving to me
darn good animations
1. How do you edit so good (compliment) and 2. I never thought about fnaf one being after sister location, lets all go ahead and give this man a sub, he really deserves it.
Banger video! I agreed with what you said for the most part. What I loved was how you brought up how we should be viewing the series as a story rather than an infallible piece of media. I wish more people viewed the series that way.
I love this theory. It matches my original thoughts on the early days of circus babys pizza world but disproves my placement of the events sister location in my personal timeline(i originally placed it before the events of fnaf 2) and changes the rest of my timeline as a whole. I originally thought that at this point william would go into hiding after the MCI under an alias and leave michael(who would be 17 at this point since i considered him to be 13 during the bite of 83) with instructions to free his sister. He would then discover his father’s motives and also get scooped which would set him on a mission to undo his fathers actions setting him up as the nightguard in night 7 of fnaf 2 and the nightguard in all of fnaf 1. Both times he would try to get them scrapped only succeeding with the toys but failing to get the classics scrapped. In my personal timeline scrap baby and molten freddy would exist a lot earlier which i didnt really have a problem with but now i cant work with that since now i know the funtimes aren’t possessed yet which would mean that they only one who was possessed was baby which now thinking about it wouldnt make sense for afton to return to the fnaf 1 location to harvest remnant since he doesnt have the funtimes to experiment on. The new timeline that you proposed makes a sense and mends the plot holes that mine had and honestly is better. But it sucks that now in the new timeline mike and fritz are just unlucky individuals who happen to smell bad and are not actually jus aliases for michael afton:( I also had michael set up as this rlly cool protagonist who seen it all and knows the weakness of each animatronic but now it turns out he was only involved in fnaf 3, sister location, and pizzeria simulator which is a little late to the party. But still i completely endorse your new timeline and will probably use it going forward:)
I mean, Fritz and Mike could both still be Michael Afton, just that he hasn't been scooped yet and is just a regular guy. The Logbook and FNAF 4 nightmares do imply that Michael was at both the FNAF 2 and FNAF 1 locations as well, not to mention "Smith" and "Schmidt" are the same name just in different languages or something. So he doesn't have to just be involved in 3, SL, and PS, but if he was in 1 and 2 as well then he wouldn't have experienced Sister Location yet according to this theory.
@@legoboy7107 i never thought of that actually. I guess it would still make sense for him to go to the fnaf 1 and 2 locations even before he got scooped now that i think about it. That would also mean that this michael even as a regular guy never took showers.
@@NormalPerson-kl3nc I mean he beat 4/20 mode, he's a sweaty gamer lol.
"Ohhh nice one, you beat the game? Cool.. well, you're fired. And you stink." Epic😂😂
At 1:41 I fully expected to hear "I've come to make an announcement: Shadow the hedgehog is a-" come out of the speakers 😭
Fun little thought about the clown mask Ennard wears: since all SL animatronics are symbols of Afton's family members (baby for Elizabeth, Ballora for his wife, etc), it could be that the mask was for animatronic for Michael or William itself.
Michael is Funtime Foxy
The mask would be William
This video just made you one of my new favorite theory channels. Well written, well edited, well researched, amazingly done. You should be proud. :)
Phenomenal fucking theory & animation at the end
It orders the main events of the story and doesn't focus on smaller details that might have been jokes or one-off gags (ie, odor).
keep up the content king you're great
"The parents will be too distracted by his perfect machines"
Ah yes, the Ballora hypothesis
Lets goo, try solving the Chicas party world and Mediocre Melodies timeline theory
For the third video, it's really great quality, keep it up, you'll definitely crack the 1 million mark
In the Silver Eyes trilogy, we see that William Afton did survive a previous springlock incident, or multiple springlock incidents.
Was William Afton the springlock failure that occurred that demanded the springlock suits to be no longer be used?
I did consider this at one point! Right now I can't remember what made me second guess it - but if there's enough competing evidence I could definitely try working it into a future video
23:45 finally, someone who isn’t brain dead
I age like 50 years whenever someone uses this mask to say there are two lights
I'm glad that you're a person who thinks of the story from a logical standpoint, because Scott didn't even have a full story planned out to begin with, so it would be silly to assume he knew what he was doing the whole time. Also, your editing is amazing, it makes your videos even more appealing to watch! You're definitely someone who was worth subscribing to 👍
This man made 2 videos and he's already PEAK
this is literally the best theory on fnaf ever wth, like this solidifies so much about what we were still trying to figure out even way back then
Only 2 theories in and you've already become my favorite fnaf theorist. Can't wait to see what you make next.
you're the best FNAF TH-camr on the scene right now, rooting for you goat🙏
Man this was really well done! This makes a lot of sense, is presented well, and the step by step break down doesn't leave anything to interpretation and its really clean and explained well. Subbed and looking forward to more! Keep it up.
The baby quote at the beginning, idk how people hear “at least the way the were supposed to” and don’t think “huh that means someone tried and failed to use it right”
Second vid ive watched from you and your theory’s are so well put together and the production of the videos are so high in quality and im loving the direction the new theorists are heading in!
Another amazing theory. I love how you are treating it like an actual story.
Gotta say the animation and editing on this was so awesome!
Thank you for addressing the fact that a lot of previous theories and timelines have huge, untenable time gaps in them. I’ve heard multiple people claim that Michael was a walking corpse and chasing after his father for what ends up being over a decade, which if you actually think about, is pretty ridiculous. Molten Freddy wandering around for 30 years? Without being spotted by ANYONE?
Just asking the simple question of what were all the characters doing during those time gaps makes them fall apart almost immediately. There are huge leaps of logic you need to make in order to answer questions about certain characters managing to exist for these huge stretches of time without people spotting, discovering, or destroying them.
I’m just glad someone pointed out the illogic of assuming the time gaps that are produced by some theories are correct. If your theory requires monsters to have been free roaming unchallenged for more than a few years, then you might need to rethink it.
Even to add to that further, consider that Henry's plan was to lure all the remaining souls back by creating a new Freddy's and gathering as much remnant/agony fuelled memorabilia of the past.
But, if in those 30 years, there was THREE different Fazbear restaurants/attractions, you think Molten Freddy or Scrap Baby would have slinked their way to Freddy's at least once.
@@UnwitheredTruth yes, I agree.
There are, for sure, reasonable explanations to these huge time gaps but they almost always end up giving me more questions. For example, one could argue that maybe Scrap Baby/Molten Freddy went into some sort of hibernation for close to three decades so they were never seen- but then I ask why? Where? And what woke them up? And why wake up now?
You could argue they were trapped somewhere but if they were, then how did they get out? And how did Henry not find them? And if they were already trapped, why didn’t he just change plans and destroy them where they already were?
Occam’s razor says that’s too many questions for the theories to be correct. Until Scott says so, any huge time gaps are probably wrong.
27:43 A tad unrelated, but FNaF 3 taking place in 2015 makes way more sense chronistically than it taking place around the early 2020s as many people assume, both in terms of current events and trends in the mid 2010s.
Most assume that FNAF 3 takes place in the early 2020s because the previous location (The one from the first game) seemingly closed during the 1990s and the description of FNAF 3 told us how Fazbear's Fright: The Horror Attraction opened 30 years after the closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza.
However, it's also possible that the game takes place during the late 2010s; 30 years after the closing of the FNAF 2 location (You know, the location of the previous game; something that would make sense from an storytelling standpoint).
I'm pretty sure Scott said that FNAF 3 takes place 30 years after the minigame, and in the minigame, we see the FNAF 1 location abandoned, the doors boarded up and the ceiling leaking. Mice are everywhere and the robots are left abandoned. It physically can't take place at 2015.
@@xM0nst3Rx wait. I'm confused about the lore now. So was William still alive after fnaf 1? But wasn't the phone guy talking about the sealed rooms, which was after William locking in the a suit?
@@Sergonizer yes, FNAF 1 happened before William's death, hence explaining why the place was abandoned and left to ruin in the FNAF 3 minigames.
Phone Guy talking about sealed rooms takes place before FNAF 1, so it was referring to an older event. my guess is, after the murders took place, they put on the walls to hide the evidence of William's murders to keep the places open. Of course, it didn't work as they abandoned FNAF 1 location, and Phone Guy got killed there.
also the Safe Room in FNAF 1 not being sealed off, as is shown in FNAF 3 minigames, indicates that William didn't murder any kids in FNAF 1 location. so it must be a new building.
This video was extremely well put together and honestly, as someone who genuinely couldn’t see how MoltenMCI could work time wise or narratively, this actually convinced me
My only real issue (while not as major anymore) is still the survival logbook’s timeline placement, mainly because so much of it presents itself as being a book from FNAF 1 by connecting it to Mike and various drawings with the characters, but also the reference to Sister location seeming to imply it’s after it
I’ve seen people come to the idea that it’s actually a book sold by Fazbears Fright as a fake book because of the FNAF 3 office drawings, but two big issues for me on that being
A. Their isn’t anything else in the book that supports this idea beside those drawings unlike everything else the book provides like connecting the two Mikes and the FFPS Grave name, so why wouldn’t Scott make that just as clear if that’s the case
And B. A lot of things in the book would seem to contradict it like the post-its implying it was given to a new guard and stuff like the coupons being shown to be real in stuff like the books and even the ITP game (this book being their first appearance)
Idk if you could possibly cover this in a later video but it would be extremely helpful in fully understanding it
The only explanation I could think of without breaking to much would be that the Sister location connections from mike are actually foreshadowing to his future fate rather than references to past events, as he seems unaware of Aftons involvement in everything and still questioning why everything is happening to him
This is going to break the fnaf community. Incredible theory dude!!
That molten freddy eye thing you pointed out is actually an incredible detail I never noticed
This is the CLEAREST most well written theory i've ever come across. Some peopple write theories more confusing than the actual game.
This one video single handedly made me subscribe. Your videos are absolutely amazing and the effort put into them deserves appreciation! Also the theory itself is well made. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the golden-freddy-only-has-one-lit-eye tangent. It has confused me so much when people say there are two lights,,, just because,, two of the holes have light..? Like clearly only one eye socket has a light source (defining light source here as whatever it is that is lighting the other ones). I guess it doesn't really matter at the end of the day
I'm also glad that the "fired b/c of odor" (despite the fact that... there's no one to smell the player character?) was brought back into the conversation with this video as well
22:48 I never noticed that...
Really good timeline video!!
I really love your editing style and the way you narrate your theory. That story at the end was a great touch too! Keep up the nice work!
im ngl i think this may be the closes theory to what it could be especially narrative and theres evidence to back up a lot of it good job on the vid
Im not someone that knows that much of FNAF's history, but if THIS isnt how everything plays out I have no idea how
Really good video! Keep it up!
Congratulations! Regarding your first video. I understood that you intuited that the action of the first fnaf game would be in 1989. This aspect is possible but I have seen other theories and including forums that propose the idea that the first game was played in 1998 because it is said that Friday November 13 is a symbolic date for the classic fnaf era, it being also found at the end of the fnaf 2 game on the check from the day of the bite in 87. I guess that in fnaf 1 November 13 also falls on a Friday, and the closest variants would be 1992 and 1998. And many people go for the year 1998 because Ralph says in fnaf 1 that the animatronics have been singing the same songs for 20 years ---possibly a reference to fredbear family dinner which opened in the late 70s.
The amount of work this guy puts in is mad. He deserves to be as famous as Matpat he’s that good.
this is my first of urs and u just got a new sub, absolutely love the editing and music.. so awesome, and great deductions!
I've always understood Baby's remark about "I don’t think it was ever used. At least, not the way it was meant to be used..." as suggesting that the suit had been utilized, but not for its original purpose of entertaining children. Instead, it seems to imply that it was used as a method to carry out murder or possibly even was the murder weapon itself.
Same here. Considering Spring Bonnie being used, there is precedence for this. Annoyingly, this would mean there is *yet another* set of murders.
I believe in lore terms that the "tampering with animatronics" and "odor" was because the body's in the animatronics began to decompose leaving a stench on them they blamed on the only person their left with them unsupervised which would be Mike. Obviously I could be wrong but if you disagree plz elaborate on why.
your videos are so well crafted, i loved this one! your voice is so easy to listen to 😭
GOAT THEORY. I agree with every point made in the video. Wonderful job dude. Congrats.
I loved that little segment at the end. The one explaining how things went down in a simple summary. Saying it was extremely helpful in my understanding is an understatement!
Great video! Although i wish you talked about Dittophobia and nightmare fear experiments a bit, since they seem fairly important for the given topic.
I felt that Dittophobia is more related to FNAF 4 than SL, and honestly I'm not a 100% Talesgames believer so I decided to save Dittophobia for a FNAF 4 video. Also time is so hard to pin down in that story due to the nature of what's happening to Rory so I felt it was wishy washy evidence at best at times
this is my first video of yours and it's amazing! already a huge fan :) i love how you look at the lore and how you present things, both in reasoning and editing! great stuff :D
also, as a fan since the series started I really love your analysis of less talked-about details that people have forgotten about
26:34 William could not take apart the animatronics after fnaf 1. Because from Ralph's messages from FNAF 3, it is known that the secret rooms were sealed before Ralph's death, and Ralph's death occurs shortly before FNAF 1. Which means that during FNAF 1 William is in the secret room in a springtrap suit.
Then way are the classic animatronic shells now empty husks that bear significant resemblance to the heads in the night five end screen? (Freddy, Bonnie, & Foxy missing their ears and Chia missing his lower beak)
We discover in a Fazbear Frights story that the false walls over the safe rooms can be opened from the outside, but are unable to move from inside the room.
The building in Follow Me is clearly abandoned/in terrible disrepair, so it never made sense to me to say THAT'S when Ralph made those tapes.
The Safe Rooms are sealed to cover evidence from the MCI, and then William returns years later and gets trapped behind the false wall.
This was definitely an interesting take and i love how straightforward it is with detangling a lot of lore and meanings behind things within the game and those that came before.
One theory that I had that came to mind fairly recently is that there may have been more than one Sister Location and Circus Baby's is one of the only known 'sister locations' we know of and the others were never mentioned or revealed. There could have been more Circus Baby's locations or other locations that don't connect or even relate to Circus Baby's at all and they could have had similar incidents with springlocks like we see/hear about in the games.
People always seem to wonder why exactly William Afton does the things that he does. That maybe the tragedy of both his son and his daughter is what led him to his insanity. Now, while he was definitely pushed over the edge by certain events, I think people are too attached to the idea of William being some tragic character. The fact of the matter is, not all men in this world are good. While I would like to see more about William's character BEFORE he became the murderer we know today, I do believe everyone needs to remember that sometimes there is not intricate or complex reason. Sometimes bad people just want to do bad things.
He just felt like it
I like this video overall and the two funtime foxies one for each location matches that teaser for fnaf 2 with the foxies at the curtain
plus the time line adds up and makes enough sense
I really like this
This was so good very crafting and how you animate is beautiful👌