Bill, my boss drives an 08 F250 6.4L and after watching this video, I told him about this particular problem after he mentioned to me his regen was kicking in more and more. I'm extending his thanks to you because you saved his pocketbook from taking a tremendous hit. When they pulled off the canister, they said it reminded them of thick frost that builds up in old style freezers. A few hundred dollar baking treatment is far better than a 12k motor.
I smiled as I watched this, knowing the outcome. No matter it be GM, Ford, or Dodge we gave up on these little pickup truck based diesel chassis for fleet units long ago. They all were just too expensive to buy outright, they had to be meticulously maintained or they would grenade themselves, they were too difficult and costly to repair even when we found people willing and competent enough to do so, and all of them ended up virtually worthless pieces of junk at 250-300k miles. We went to real class 6 and 7 chassis- they don’t cost that much more to buy new, they just need normal maintenance, repairs are much easier to perform and much less frequent equaling less costly, they last 400-500k miles or more easily, and they still have some residual value at the end of that. Pain over.
First off I love your vids.I also love powerstrokes ever since my parents bought a 2008 6.4 .I've been looking for a new truck for a while now and your videos have been a huge help. I loved their 6.4 especially after they went with the straight pipe and "off-road" tuning. However I was almost sure I was going with a 6.0 because of the problems with the 6.4 and the cost of the 6.7 This video has helped me decide that the 6.4 properly maintained and with the correct modifications is the way to go.
This man is telling the absolute truth. Pretty much the same had happened here. Oil light went on - oil levels were low. After inspection it was discovered the turbo was on the verge of going bad, and had to be repaired already. Sometime later - the injector went bad. Fortunately, the turbo guy informed about this problem, which was clogged catalytic converter, which was was the initial cause of turbo and injector problems. The solution was pretty much the same as suggested in this video: since this particular one came without DPF so only the catalytic converter was replaced with pipe - resonator. Thanks to the speaker in this video. This problem can occur with any truck, or any diesel vehicle! Over here it is 2.0 D4D Toyota.
It is actually best to keep the EGR intact because it acts as an waste gate for turbo overspool. I have seen several 6.4s with broken turbo shafts with the EGR delete.
I just purchased a 2010 6.4 with 190,000km. I knew I was going to do something like what you had said, but you video just confirmed even more that I should remove the DPF. Awesome vid. Thanks for that advice.
I really enjoy watching these videos. Your a very professional and knowledgable guy. I would bring my diesel to you in a heartbeat reguardless of price. Keep up the excellent work. I work at a Honda dealer but have always loved Diesel engines. Might be time to learn more about diesel trucks/engines. Keep up the great videos. I look foward to viewing them!
LOVE the videos!!!!!!!! A friend told me about them a few days ago and its all i been doing with my time home after work. Straight to computer to watch more!! Keep them up and if your ever interested in having an apprentice in the future id love to do it!!!! At the moment i live in canada and am in the army, Keep up the amazing videos!!!!!!!
08 Powerstroke, I'm running the Kem 345 set up. Not necessarily the balls out 345. But I take everything this man says into account any time I'm about to do something to this truck. This man is the shit! Appreciate all you do buddy. all you gotta do is listen to him and follow his advice.
I work with a bunch of line men, they idle all day which means lots of regen cycles, one truck of theirs has 60 thousand miles, with three motors so far...
My friend has one of those trucks. And instead removing the DPF, he drilled a 1 inch hole in the exhaust pipe (just before the CAT and DPF) and welded on a 1x1 inch pipe with a type of "BREAK AWAY PLUG". the "Plug" it self works just like a radiator cap; when the pressure builds and somethings gotta give, it pops open and vents it out in the air. And i know it works because it poped open last month on the highway. When we removed & inspected the DPF, it was clogged. But the motor had been saved.
I just did a complete straight pipe system in my 6.4. next is the egr delete. Right now my truck is getting 23 mpg and almost 500 hp with the tuner. dpf delete is the way to go!!
I did a DPF Delete and used a H & S tuner. I tried just about every position available on that tuner and while I got a little more mileage with the hot setting, I dropped it back down to no added power because I tended to want to put my foot in it and blow everybody's doors off. Right now it only has about 50 to 80 added horses because the DPF is out, get 21 mpg (was 14.5-15.5) and runns better than it did when it was brand new.
I don't even have a powerstroke or live in the States, but I do enjoy your videos. We had a few DPF issue on our sprinter van fleet but these were run hard non stop across Europe, only being off for the 30minute UK/France tunnel crossing. We killed 3, all at 200,000. The DPF warning light was always coming on.towards the end.
I really wish I’d heard this 2 weeks ago.. because now my 6.4 dually is n da shop. Just ordered a new small block. Wt.. hell. Really makes me miss my ole 7.3 that was stolen out my driveway. Actually pisses me off.. knowing I could of punched out the exhaust just like I did my ole’ Triumphs choppers. Now I’m really annoyed @ myself. Thanks 4 the video. I’ll fix it, the exhaust when I get it back w/the new engine rebuild. Just a Sad day n my life. ☮️❤️y’all.
My dad has a 6.4L powerstroke and it was egr deleted, dpf deleted, tuned, and had a cold air intake and it lasted 800,000 miles before he got rid of it. I’m not even a ford guy and I like the 6.4L! I prefer the Dodge Cummins.
ive learned so much from you!!! Ill keep my 2000 7.3 liter truck;-)) Just bought a 2003 6.0 im gonna bullet proof per your ideas and flip!!! I'm an ASE master tech
Back in the 70's, the company that I worked for, had a brand new GMC 1 Ton Pickup, with a 557 Gas engine, and Atlas-Chalmers automatic, with only 1000 miles (or so), self-destruct on the highway. Just cruising along at the speed limit of 60 mph, when BANG the whole front half of the engine block exited the truck through the radiator onto the highway. Took almost a half mile to stop, as steering and brakes left with the engine. The main crank had a spiral fracture at a main journal that split the block at that point. Best news - ALL under warranty!
I have an f450 that use to be a 6.0 truck. Now its rocking a 120k mile 05 cummins with stock tuning and a 6 speed 68rfe from a 6.7 cummins. It pulls awesome. I know mr bill doesn't like the cummins swap thing but mine is super clean. I wanted it to look as oem as possible and spent close to $30k to do it.
All DPFs are problematic by their very nature, but the good news is that the SCR Selective Catalyst Reduction plays a huge role in helping the DPF last longer.
Dang you are the man!!! i love these vids!! i dont understand why they think we need to do a regen cycle to burn the soot that gets caught? maybe you could do a vid on why diesels need a regen cycle for the soot.. thanks much!
Changing out the DPF seems like a good option every so often even if it's expensive. I'm getting 22mpg on my 2010 6.4 with it as it came freom the factory but you have to do some long drives not towing anything to get the REGEN to clean it. I was getting 18mpg for a while till I went on a few 1000 mile trips and now I get 22mpg. That's the best MPG since Ive owned it. Also, it runs best at 70 MPH but in California (where I live) you can only tow at 60.
bill your the shit. thank you for all the kick ass videos and just being straight about shit. you have reallyed helped me out allot understanding my 7.3. thanx man
removal of the dpf will generally void the warranty. not always but most times. it depends on the attitudes of a particular dealership toward modifications.
that is correct. The EPS emissions spec for 2013 is that they must make 1/100th the emissionsof a truck from 10 years ago. That is a huge, huge deal. Even with the DPF off the 6.4, I would guess just through good fuel management it still has to 50% cleaner than a 7.3.
I have a 08 6.4 crew cab long wheelbase truck that just turned 300k. It was completely deleted at about 60k. It did need head gaskets rockers, bridges etc at about 250k, but runs great now. No blowby at all. Stock fuel system, Edge tuner, intake and 4 inch exuast from turbos back, it runs mid twelves all day long. Get rid of that emissions crap!
I ran my 300ZX Turbo through emissions for 10 years with gutted cats and passed every time. They put the mirror under the car and see the cat, it passed the sniffer, and they give you a sticker good for 2 years. Stop at Dunkin Donuts for a coffee across the street and go on my way with a fancy new sticker..LOL! I like the gutted DPF idea, it's brilliant!
I think you're right but it was a lease fleet so the view was it's not our problem. We found if the DPF light stays on too long on the sprinters the ECU jumps to a limp mode to try and protect the engine. But our drivers found if you switch the ignition off and on again this would disable for 30mins so just did that! Got them back to base and the job done, just glad we didn't cover the repair bill! Thanks for the reply
Hey Bill, I did the programmer like you suggested and also did an exaust job, that worked out great. But the other day I installed an Air Dog II and that was the ICING on the cake. I don't know if my 6.4 is putting 600 horses to the ground like they say, but it sure is an amazing piece of equipment now. Don't know if you support the Air Dog II, but its makin a difference. I think I even gained a couple more mpg's after I put it on.
Great video. DPF's only add hassle and maintenance expense for the owner. Over here in Europe we have some of the tiny little sub 2 litre engines and they have them on and cause nothing but problems for people due to short journeys and constant cycling from the DPF system. The more diesel engines evolve (usually due to regulations) the less they appeal for their original benefit of economy and durability. Great shame. Keep the vids up :)
I currently have a 02 powerstroke, and I love it. But as you said it is a dinosaur in a new world. I have been looking at the new 6.4 trucks, I rode in a Tuned/egr deleted 6.4, w 8in lift and 40in tires - 6 months later i seen it in a local shop getting a built transmission in it. I watched your how to purchase a 7.3 video before i bought my 7.3, do you have some recommendations for the 6.4? How do the transmissions hold up to the extra power of the tuners if you don't beat the snot out of it?
Yep, that's exactly what I plan on doing is gutting an extra DPF and Cat I have for this purpose and install it in place of my stock system with tuning.I will keep my stock DPF and Cat intact in case I have to switch it back.The turbos already were replaced on my truck under warranty from most likely being cooked by high regen temps.My warranty has just expired,so now this will be the best thing I can do for my 6.4L truck!
Like your straightforward no b.s. videos. I've deleted the dpf and egr and just spent 3 Saturdays of pure hell putting a water pump in the damn thing. The only thing that scares me is talk about it being a throw away motor and catastrophic failures as low as 160,000 miles. I'm at 105,000 now do you suggest I sell my truck. It's definitely not cheap or easy to work on and I really wanted to get 500,000 miles out of it. I also run a spartan 310 tune on which I'm sure can't be good for it either.
We have two shop trucks that are 6.0. The silver bullet that my son drives is a 2004 f250 2wd reg cab long bed. The thing is blistery fast IF you can get traction.
In California you will not be able to delete. I'd keep an eye on how often the truck regens and make sure that DPF stays clean and in good working order. There is DPF on tuning available in the market that will help.
As a Cummins Certified tech I hate the DPF and now new SCR system also. But they do both serve a purpose. The biggest amount of failures I have seen on DPF systems were tow trucks and delivery trucks. Further research showed that trucks with these systems and driving short miles should have a "Parked Regen" daily. Also it only cost us $400 to have DPF Filters cleaned. There is also a "Back Pressure Test" you can perform to make sure your DPF is flowing correctly. Back Pressure causes damage
I am glad I found your channel. I own a new 2012 F-350 6.7, and I am wondering if they may have the same DPF problems as the 6.4. I tow a 38ft. toyhauler that's 12k dry, so my truck gets used.
Bill, I have a 2009 6.4 - I have made all your recommended changes from Arch Oil to the radiator cap. I have the H&S Tuner on it and only use the tow and street modes and I NEVER use the performance mode (I have no use for that mode). I don't beat on my truck and take good care of it. My main concern is the tuner after watching some of your other videos. I watched your video on the 6.7 motor that failed b/c of the tuner. Is the scenario apples to oranges between the 6.4 & the 6.7 or is it a genuine concern? Thanks.
I only run the 210 for daily driving, and the 150 for towing to keep my stock clutch happy. Runnin' the rare read headed step child ZF6 unit. When I loaded the looney toon the clutch was not happy.
I agree. It will happen eventually. The engineers have done huge things with gasoline engines, but they have been diddling with gas engines since the 70s. Remember the 7.3 was still in production just a mere 10 years ago. So we are just in the middle of the emissions revolution in diesels.
IT depends on usage but I would consider cleaning it at 100k. Most Navistar dealers have a machine that can do it for $350 if you remove it and take it to then.
Yes and No. The 6.7 has a DPF but because of the SCR (Selective Catalyst Reduction) the DPF doesn't have to Regen as much. I'm sure it will get interesting when some of these exhaust components start to fail.
My Ford mechanic friend told me he used to get those all the time with cracked heads and horribly glazed rear cylinders from the injectors washing and thining oil on the cylinder walls.
I just bought a 2009 F250 6.4l and watching your video has inspired me to gut out my DPF. My question is once I do this is what did you mean by reprogramming the truck? Did you mean with a tuner or something to erase the code(s). I don't want a tuner in my truck. New to the Ford diesel. I've owned a couple of Dodge 5.9's before and decided to try out a Ford this time. Either way I like my new truck and want to keep it for a while. Thanks for video and educating me on my new journey!
Absolutely with a tuner. If you don't have a DPF and keep the stock tune, it is gonna dump raw fuel right the tailpipe while running flame flower style.
Just buy a tuner and remove the DPF. I bought a SCT tuner with the Innovative Diesel tunes. It will wake the truck up! If you don't buy a tuner and gut the DPF it will destroy your engine because it will still go into regen mode.
you have to beat the snot out of it to kill that transmission. Some of the guys will run these late lock up race tunes that overheat the torque converter. If the converter comes apart ti will usually take the trans with it. Level 10 transmissions in NJ builds on of the best late model transmissions on the market.
6.4 engine... Very dependable boat anchor...
fadingbeleifs usually just the EGRs bud, other than that their stout
The 6.0 would at least be better to get that way you won’t burn a big hole in your pocket
@@funnydubby6401 They have more problems than the egr....... literal boat anchors.
Bill, my boss drives an 08 F250 6.4L and after watching this video, I told him about this particular problem after he mentioned to me his regen was kicking in more and more. I'm extending his thanks to you because you saved his pocketbook from taking a tremendous hit. When they pulled off the canister, they said it reminded them of thick frost that builds up in old style freezers. A few hundred dollar baking treatment is far better than a 12k motor.
This guy is interesting. NO B.S., just says it like it is....Subscribed.
Oya. No 2 minute intro of generic vlog crap
Amen to that! I don't own a PSD, but still love to watch his videos and his no B.S. delivery.
Government bureaucracy causing cuntery once again.
I smiled as I watched this, knowing the outcome. No matter it be GM, Ford, or Dodge we gave up on these little pickup truck based diesel chassis for fleet units long ago. They all were just too expensive to buy outright, they had to be meticulously maintained or they would grenade themselves, they were too difficult and costly to repair even when we found people willing and competent enough to do so, and all of them ended up virtually worthless pieces of junk at 250-300k miles. We went to real class 6 and 7 chassis- they don’t cost that much more to buy new, they just need normal maintenance, repairs are much easier to perform and much less frequent equaling less costly, they last 400-500k miles or more easily, and they still have some residual value at the end of that. Pain over.
It really sucks that nobody can get it right but hey weres the money in that huh?
DPF. Your government at work!
It amazes me that you recommend these trucks with how many fails you see every day.
He says to sell the 6.4 if you own one… more people that own them is more work for him
Yessir. I have four broken 6.4s sitting here waiting for approval right now.
First off I love your vids.I also love powerstrokes ever since my parents bought a 2008 6.4 .I've been looking for a new truck for a while now and your videos have been a huge help. I loved their 6.4 especially after they went with the straight pipe and "off-road" tuning. However I was almost sure I was going with a 6.0 because of the problems with the 6.4 and the cost of the 6.7 This video has helped me decide that the 6.4 properly maintained and with the correct modifications is the way to go.
thanks for all the info and the great videos they have really helped. keep them rolling.
Everybody loves Spot! I hope you'll keep posting updates about your 6.4 and the 6.7.
Thank you! By the way all of your videos are an absolute blessing to us DIY mechanics out here!
This man is telling the absolute truth.
Pretty much the same had happened here. Oil light went on - oil levels were low. After inspection it was discovered the turbo was on the verge of going bad, and had to be repaired already. Sometime later - the injector went bad.
Fortunately, the turbo guy informed about this problem, which was clogged catalytic converter, which was was the initial cause of turbo and injector problems.
The solution was pretty much the same as suggested in this video: since this particular one came without DPF so only the catalytic converter was replaced with pipe - resonator.
Thanks to the speaker in this video.
This problem can occur with any truck, or any diesel vehicle! Over here it is 2.0 D4D Toyota.
It is actually best to keep the EGR intact because it acts as an waste gate for turbo overspool. I have seen several 6.4s with broken turbo shafts with the EGR delete.
I just purchased a 2010 6.4 with 190,000km. I knew I was going to do something like what you had said, but you video just confirmed even more that I should remove the DPF. Awesome vid. Thanks for that advice.
+James Hall please use Miles per hour vs Kilometers per hours because it's alot easier
I really enjoy watching these videos. Your a very professional and knowledgable guy. I would bring my diesel to you in a heartbeat reguardless of price. Keep up the excellent work. I work at a Honda dealer but have always loved Diesel engines. Might be time to learn more about diesel trucks/engines. Keep up the great videos. I look foward to viewing them!
very informative. This should be required material for anyone that wants a Ford Diesel. Keep it up!
excellent advice thanks much... I'm looking forward and taking my truck so you can work on it.
LOVE the videos!!!!!!!! A friend told me about them a few days ago and its all i been doing with my time home after work. Straight to computer to watch more!! Keep them up and if your ever interested in having an apprentice in the future id love to do it!!!! At the moment i live in canada and am in the army, Keep up the amazing videos!!!!!!!
08 Powerstroke, I'm running the Kem 345 set up. Not necessarily the balls out 345. But I take everything this man says into account any time I'm about to do something to this truck. This man is the shit! Appreciate all you do buddy. all you gotta do is listen to him and follow his advice.
Love your videos man!!
I'm looking for a 6.0 powerstroke and know what to look for thanks to you!
I work with a bunch of line men, they idle all day which means lots of regen cycles, one truck of theirs has 60 thousand miles, with three motors so far...
Tanks again for all the great videos!
My friend has one of those trucks. And instead removing the DPF, he drilled a 1 inch hole in the exhaust pipe (just before the CAT and DPF) and welded on a 1x1 inch pipe with a type of "BREAK AWAY PLUG". the "Plug" it self works just like a radiator cap; when the pressure builds and somethings gotta give, it pops open and vents it out in the air. And i know it works because it poped open last month on the highway. When we removed & inspected the DPF, it was clogged. But the motor had been saved.
DPF delete + EGR delete + Tuning + EDAS = reliable Powerstroke. love these videos Bill, more please!!
I just did a complete straight pipe system in my 6.4. next is the egr delete. Right now my truck is getting 23 mpg and almost 500 hp with the tuner. dpf delete is the way to go!!
Glad to see the new vid. Love learning about the ford diesels as I do love fords
Thanks for the videos, i've watched them all!
This guy is a fuckin wizard explained my truck to a t just deleted an tuned an I love it
I did a DPF Delete and used a H & S tuner. I tried just about every position available on that tuner and while I got a little more mileage with the hot setting, I dropped it back down to no added power because I tended to want to put my foot in it and blow everybody's doors off. Right now it only has about 50 to 80 added horses because the DPF is out, get 21 mpg (was 14.5-15.5) and runns better than it did when it was brand new.
I don't even have a powerstroke or live in the States, but I do enjoy your videos.
We had a few DPF issue on our sprinter van fleet but these were run hard non stop across Europe, only being off for the 30minute UK/France tunnel crossing. We killed 3, all at 200,000. The DPF warning light was always coming on.towards the end.
I really wish I’d heard this 2 weeks ago.. because now my 6.4 dually is n da shop. Just ordered a new small block. Wt.. hell. Really makes me miss my ole 7.3 that was stolen out my driveway. Actually pisses me off.. knowing I could of punched out the exhaust just like I did my ole’ Triumphs choppers. Now I’m really annoyed @ myself. Thanks 4 the video. I’ll fix it, the exhaust when I get it back w/the new engine rebuild. Just a Sad day n my life. ☮️❤️y’all.
Great info. Love the video
Another awesome video.
This guy knows what he’s talking about. Well done
Great video!
Love ya work mate.
My dad has a 6.4L powerstroke and it was egr deleted, dpf deleted, tuned, and had a cold air intake and it lasted 800,000 miles before he got rid of it. I’m not even a ford guy and I like the 6.4L! I prefer the Dodge Cummins.
Thanks for the informative knowledge. Im about to purchase an ‘08 F450 dually fully built motor bulletproof the whole 9 yards.
This is a great video!
All diesel owners
Step 1 EGR delete
Step 2 DPF delete
+Daniel Bargas glorious words
+Daniel Bargas don't forget the the DEF if ya have it!
+butchtropic lol... you must be from California
I don't have to mess with the dpf because my 91' dodge has a cummins with noooooo emission junk on it.
It's no speed demon but it has given me no trouble.
Very good information. Thanks for the video
ive learned so much from you!!!
Ill keep my 2000 7.3 liter truck;-))
Just bought a 2003 6.0 im gonna bullet proof per your ideas and flip!!!
I'm an ASE master tech
excellent rundown on why the DPF is a main culprit in the death of the 6.4L powerstroke.
Back in the 70's, the company that I worked for, had a brand new GMC 1 Ton Pickup, with a 557 Gas engine, and Atlas-Chalmers automatic, with only 1000 miles (or so), self-destruct on the highway. Just cruising along at the speed limit of 60 mph, when BANG the whole front half of the engine block exited the truck through the radiator onto the highway. Took almost a half mile to stop, as steering and brakes left with the engine. The main crank had a spiral fracture at a main journal that split the block at that point. Best news - ALL under warranty!
I have an f450 that use to be a 6.0 truck. Now its rocking a 120k mile 05 cummins with stock tuning and a 6 speed 68rfe from a 6.7 cummins. It pulls awesome. I know mr bill doesn't like the cummins swap thing but mine is super clean. I wanted it to look as oem as possible and spent close to $30k to do it.
Yes and no. Not every one wants to remove the filter, but there is tuning even with the filter that can help tremendously with power and fuel economy.
All DPFs are problematic by their very nature, but the good news is that the SCR Selective Catalyst Reduction plays a huge role in helping the DPF last longer.
Dang you are the man!!! i love these vids!! i dont understand why they think we need to do a regen cycle to burn the soot that gets caught? maybe you could do a vid on why diesels need a regen cycle for the soot.. thanks much!
Changing out the DPF seems like a good option every so often even if it's expensive. I'm getting 22mpg on my 2010 6.4 with it as it came freom the factory but you have to do some long drives not towing anything to get the REGEN to clean it. I was getting 18mpg for a while till I went on a few 1000 mile trips and now I get 22mpg. That's the best MPG since Ive owned it. Also, it runs best at 70 MPH but in California (where I live) you can only tow at 60.
OMG
THANKS AGAIN BILL!!
bill your the shit. thank you for all the kick ass videos and just being straight about shit. you have reallyed helped me out allot understanding my 7.3. thanx man
Cores really only apply to starters and alternators. Mostly it just ends up at the scrap yard when I get sick of tripping over it all.
removal of the dpf will generally void the warranty. not always but most times. it depends on the attitudes of a particular dealership toward modifications.
thanks for the vid bro
that is correct. The EPS emissions spec for 2013 is that they must make 1/100th the emissionsof a truck from 10 years ago. That is a huge, huge deal. Even with the DPF off the 6.4, I would guess just through good fuel management it still has to 50% cleaner than a 7.3.
FINALLY A NEW VIDEO! MORE!!!!MORE!!!
No matter what they say. The 6 4 will always be my favorite diesel engine
I have a 08 6.4 crew cab long wheelbase truck that just turned 300k. It was completely deleted at about 60k. It did need head gaskets rockers, bridges etc at about 250k, but runs great now. No blowby at all. Stock fuel system, Edge tuner, intake and 4 inch exuast from turbos back, it runs mid twelves all day long. Get rid of that emissions crap!
No offense but that bit about running mid twelves make it sound like all you do is take it to the strip.
Buford, GA a good 2500 miles from the nearest redwood tree.
I ran my 300ZX Turbo through emissions for 10 years with gutted cats and passed every time. They put the mirror under the car and see the cat, it passed the sniffer, and they give you a sticker good for 2 years. Stop at Dunkin Donuts for a coffee across the street and go on my way with a fancy new sticker..LOL! I like the gutted DPF idea, it's brilliant!
Thanks so much
I think you're right but it was a lease fleet so the view was it's not our problem.
We found if the DPF light stays on too long on the sprinters the ECU jumps to a limp mode to try and protect the engine. But our drivers found if you switch the ignition off and on again this would disable for 30mins so just did that! Got them back to base and the job done, just glad we didn't cover the repair bill! Thanks for the reply
Hey Bill, I did the programmer like you suggested and also did an exaust job, that worked out great. But the other day I installed an Air Dog II and that was the ICING on the cake. I don't know if my 6.4 is putting 600 horses to the ground like they say, but it sure is an amazing piece of equipment now. Don't know if you support the Air Dog II, but its makin a difference. I think I even gained a couple more mpg's after I put it on.
Great video.
DPF's only add hassle and maintenance expense for the owner. Over here in Europe we have some of the tiny little sub 2 litre engines and they have them on and cause nothing but problems for people due to short journeys and constant cycling from the DPF system.
The more diesel engines evolve (usually due to regulations) the less they appeal for their original benefit of economy and durability. Great shame.
Keep the vids up :)
I currently have a 02 powerstroke, and I love it. But as you said it is a dinosaur in a new world. I have been looking at the new 6.4 trucks, I rode in a Tuned/egr deleted 6.4, w 8in lift and 40in tires - 6 months later i seen it in a local shop getting a built transmission in it. I watched your how to purchase a 7.3 video before i bought my 7.3, do you have some recommendations for the 6.4? How do the transmissions hold up to the extra power of the tuners if you don't beat the snot out of it?
6.0s and 6.4s trans dont hold up well to most tuners from what I see
I know this is 8 years too late, but DON'T BUY ONE! th-cam.com/video/FiB6IbPs2Zk/w-d-xo.html (6.4 Powerstroke - The party is over)
love my 7.3
I beg to differ. With all that black TAXABLE gold in the Bakken, the politicians are very happy to keep gasoline and diesel vehicles on the road.
Yep, that's exactly what I plan on doing is gutting an extra DPF and Cat I have for this purpose and install it in place of my stock system with tuning.I will keep my stock DPF and Cat intact in case I have to switch it back.The turbos already were replaced on my truck under warranty from most likely being cooked by high regen temps.My warranty has just expired,so now this will be the best thing I can do for my 6.4L truck!
Some exhaust valve issues in heavy pulling F450s but other than that it seems to be a good power plant.
DPF deleted and Spartan tuned my 6.4L and it runs great.
Like your straightforward no b.s. videos. I've deleted the dpf and egr and just spent 3 Saturdays of pure hell putting a water pump in the damn thing. The only thing that scares me is talk about it being a throw away motor and catastrophic failures as low as 160,000 miles. I'm at 105,000 now do you suggest I sell my truck. It's definitely not cheap or easy to work on and I really wanted to get 500,000 miles out of it. I also run a spartan 310 tune on which I'm sure can't be good for it either.
Me watching this 8yrs later. THANK YOU SIR
Thanks!
We have two shop trucks that are 6.0. The silver bullet that my son drives is a 2004 f250 2wd reg cab long bed. The thing is blistery fast IF you can get traction.
I split my driving between Spot the shop truck a 2000 7.3L with 867,000 miles and my 2010 F250 that I bought as a roll over and fixed.
In California you will not be able to delete. I'd keep an eye on how often the truck regens and make sure that DPF stays clean and in good working order. There is DPF on tuning available in the market that will help.
Bill I wished I could have seen your video before I bought my 6.4
As a Cummins Certified tech I hate the DPF and now new SCR system also. But they do both serve a purpose. The biggest amount of failures I have seen on DPF systems were tow trucks and delivery trucks. Further research showed that trucks with these systems and driving short miles should have a "Parked Regen" daily. Also it only cost us $400 to have DPF Filters cleaned. There is also a "Back Pressure Test" you can perform to make sure your DPF is flowing correctly. Back Pressure causes damage
Ouch thats gotta hurt I think I'm just going to keep the ole dinosaur 7.3L
I am glad I found your channel. I own a new 2012 F-350 6.7, and I am wondering if they may have the same DPF problems as the 6.4. I tow a 38ft. toyhauler that's 12k dry, so my truck gets used.
No can do on the vids. Big Bro is ALWAYS listening and we want to stay on the nice side of naughty.
Love my 2000 7.3L Turbo Diesel
Bill,
I have a 2009 6.4 - I have made all your recommended changes from Arch Oil to the radiator cap. I have the H&S Tuner on it and only use the tow and street modes and I NEVER use the performance mode (I have no use for that mode). I don't beat on my truck and take good care of it. My main concern is the tuner after watching some of your other videos. I watched your video on the 6.7 motor that failed b/c of the tuner. Is the scenario apples to oranges between the 6.4 & the 6.7 or is it a genuine concern? Thanks.
I only run the 210 for daily driving, and the 150 for towing to keep my stock clutch happy. Runnin' the rare read headed step child ZF6 unit. When I loaded the looney toon the clutch was not happy.
hey I love the videos! I am considering a 6.4. I am wondering what are some problems that I should look out for? Thanks!
thanks bill
I agree. It will happen eventually. The engineers have done huge things with gasoline engines, but they have been diddling with gas engines since the 70s. Remember the 7.3 was still in production just a mere 10 years ago. So we are just in the middle of the emissions revolution in diesels.
IT depends on usage but I would consider cleaning it at 100k. Most Navistar dealers have a machine that can do it for $350 if you remove it and take it to then.
Wish I had seen this video years ago.
Guess I have a project to tackle soon.
Yes and No. The 6.7 has a DPF but because of the SCR (Selective Catalyst Reduction) the DPF doesn't have to Regen as much. I'm sure it will get interesting when some of these exhaust components start to fail.
On the 6.4 that pretty much has it covered. the only thing more is a Sinister Coolant filter and coolant flush every 30k miles like religion.
DPF is No good..! I agree, esp on 6.4L
Hi I would like to know
What you think about
the bully dog 7000 after market dpf that is being sold up here in Canada?
Good video by the way!
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Stock tail pipe is a sneaky trick :)
My Ford mechanic friend told me he used to get those all the time with cracked heads and horribly glazed rear cylinders from the injectors washing and thining oil on the cylinder walls.
I just bought a 2009 F250 6.4l and watching your video has inspired me to gut out my DPF. My question is once I do this is what did you mean by reprogramming the truck? Did you mean with a tuner or something to erase the code(s). I don't want a tuner in my truck. New to the Ford diesel. I've owned a couple of Dodge 5.9's before and decided to try out a Ford this time. Either way I like my new truck and want to keep it for a while. Thanks for video and educating me on my new journey!
Absolutely with a tuner. If you don't have a DPF and keep the stock tune, it is gonna dump raw fuel right the tailpipe while running flame flower style.
They sell a one time use chip you can use to delete the dpf and egr for about $300 on ebay.
Just buy a tuner and remove the DPF. I bought a SCT tuner with the Innovative Diesel tunes. It will wake the truck up! If you don't buy a tuner and gut the DPF it will destroy your engine because it will still go into regen mode.
All this stealth stuff has me feeling like I did back in my street racing days.
you have to beat the snot out of it to kill that transmission. Some of the guys will run these late lock up race tunes that overheat the torque converter. If the converter comes apart ti will usually take the trans with it. Level 10 transmissions in NJ builds on of the best late model transmissions on the market.