When I commented last night ... it was before I finished watching the rest of the video ... Tons of credit given to Mr.Shop-MiniRC lol for showing your community an entire rip down of a brand new truck ... now I have a reference point for when I do upgrades I would go back to this video thats a Large plus , even if your a good mechanic its awesome to be able to see what comes off and in what order ... Very Nice Ken ... Thanks for Sharing no need to respond again to me just felt like pointing this out ... Later Brother
The FCX24 and FCX18 platforms are not separate scale entities in reality, those names are just FMS marketing spiel. Their first "1/24" FCX24 Power Wagon wasn't, the body/cab was 1/18 scale. It's misleading marketing to siphon sales away from Traxxas or Axial SCX24 OR they just don't understand scale (highly highly doubtful). They're capitalizing on both 1/24 and 1/18 fan bases but they have yet to create a true 1/24 because that would mean scaling down their frames and running gear and that costs money. Even the RC4WD 1/24 Trail Finder 2 is something like 1/20. Not a true 1/24 scale. 10:10 They used to use a blow molded Lexan bubble body with low detail but looks like T Truck is also using an injection molded ABS body, but I will say it still looks toylike compare to FMS. T Truck and FMS both are literally just molded plastic lol. I'm just making fun of your word choices lol. 😉
there are some stores on ali express that have the metal diff gears but you might need to do some shimming to make them run smooth. You can also get the Smasher / FMT24 diffs that are metal. They are open diffs (so not good for crawling, more for high speed) but if you glue/lock them up, they work just like the normal spools... just in metal. You can us shoe goo or e6000 glue to lock up all the spider gears and basically make it back into a solid axle. This should help your stripping issues.
11:25 Buy the old model's (LC80, Katana, Patriot) clear glass while you can. I suspect however, that they are going to keep the EazyRC Patriot (with full interior and fender wells) and give it the EazyRC Thunderstorm treatment which is an impressive upgrade (new color choices, new waterproof ESC, lighting controls, etc).
38:50 Seen a lot of stripped/skipping FMS plastic gears lately and I have to surmise they turned the abuse up to 11/10 to get it that way. Perhaps they put the truck up against a wall, on a carpeted floor (or whatever provides maximum traction) and squeezed full speed on the transmitter until the gearbox or axles went Brrrrtttt. Then they cry "this FMS is garbage!".😭 We have some really room-temperature IQ sorts who run these trucks into the ground within 24 hours of buying one. Or they give it to their toddler to play with and get similar results.
Bone dry inside the transmission? I did not expect that. If they are truly hobby quality nylon gears, they should essentially self-lubricating meaning they are naturally slippery and low friction.
Really glad I watched this. I'm getting my FCX18 today and I have a bunch of metal parts coming too. I was at a hobby store a couple of days ago and a guy there had a TRX4M with rear wheel steering and I fell in love with these little crawlers.
That’s a great video. We all have the right to seek our cool places to drive em but your taking the piss.. (that’s a compliment, greetings from England)
Hello i have been watching your videos for a while now and i was just wondering if you could make a video where you can put a winch on it i have got my fms lc80 and i want to put a winch on it but i havent seen enyone do it and im afraid it wont work and it would be a waist of my money. Thank you if you can
its 100% doable. You just need to be able to plug in the servo into your channel three. You will likely need to switch your shift servo to channel 4 so that you can use channel 3 as your winch. Channel 4 is binary, on/off, left/right. So this is good for shifting low gear and high gear. The winch needs a 3 position switch, off, left and right. There are also 2 options for winches. One is a scale style winch that looks realistic and would need to be mounted on the bumper or outside of the truck. These winches are not super strong but they look good! The second type of winch is more just for a strong winch. You usually mount this on the inside somewhere and this type of winch is very strong. You just run the winch line out the front of the truck with a hook but the actual winch servo is inside the truck (like the shift servo) Depending on how you do this will very much change how you mount the winch / servo.
what? What do you think a hard body is made out of if not molded plastic? There are 3 types of bodies/cages, Lexan, Hard Body (hard plastic like nylon, pvc or abs) and Metal (usually aluminum or titanium)
received my land cruiser last year Christmas ,use maybe 3 or 4 times in side home , on floor , today i try to used only the lights on and steering wheel work not traction . no moved, full charge battery ,nothing some body know what the problem,tks guys.
Likely a bad battery. Usually when everything but the motor works, it’s the esc’s low voltage cut off preventing the motor from getting power. This means the battery is low. If you use the crappy usb charger, it won’t show you the actual voltage of the battery. Ask a hobby store or friend who can check the battery for you.
Shitty plastic parts that will break on you pretty much immediately: both differential drive gears, both driveshafts, transmission first gear. Figure in the cost of metal parts and then you have the actual price of this truck. I bought 2 and the exact same problems occured on both. One steering servo also died in the first 2 battery charges. Criminal
I'm confused by the remotes. This one has the 4 channel with the dip switches while the new lemur has the 3 ch. So, its not that they don't make them anymore, I just don't get it. I think that is the best remote for this size, you'd think it would have been best cost effective to just stick with one that works all around. Glad that's the one.
Love the video, just wondering if the plus and minus wires on the ESC are for the battery wires even though they're not in the same spot as the wires themselves?
It’s the same other than the bushings vs bearings. I didn’t notice a difference. Metal gears will definitely make it louder though (if you have them or have a furitek fx118)
Just wanted to say thanks for such an informative Vid on the LC80. I'll definitely be using this for reference in the future. That running location was amazing!!
I picked one up and I love it ... a drop top heavy ... thats an easy fix ... really love this truck ... The Lighting system , the larger motor and the complete look of this truck, Battery size also ... way to go Ken
Yes, there's a couple of companies making medal ring and pinion. I'd rather buy the Masher open diff because they are definitely going to fit, and then squish some Liquid Weld in the spider gears. There is one company that make overdrive portal gears. It's no very much overdrive but it'll help. Portals all-day for minis.
Again, great info. It is nice knowing that the smasher gears will fit properly, that’s for sure. I haven’t really seen the portal gears readily available, do they have a ton of slop?
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@@TheShopMiniRC It doesn't say those are underdrive but they are, they are 12t and the overdrive are 15t. So it's a small amount but together I'd say maybe 15-20%?
I've recently been thinking about getting back into the RC crawler world, but on a smaller scale (have a hpi venture that's been hibernating for 4 years) & originally I wanted to go 1/24. I was heavily leaning towards the new SCX24 Power Wagon and then I saw this guy on Amain's site. If you had to choose between the two which would you go with? Also, great job on the videos! Straight a to the point, great info for beginners, and no flashy obnoxiousness trying to get views.
man.. sooo its hard say. Its really personal pref. The FCX18 is slightly bigger than the SCX Power Wagon. The FCX has the 2 speed, portals and ring/pinion diff. The scx is straight axles, 1 speed and worm gear. The SCX has a LOT more aftermarket support (but the fcx support is growing a ton, you could build an fcx from all aftermarket parts, so there are plenty) I donno my dude.. which one do you like the looks of better? lol
@@TheShopMiniRC I should've finished watching the video before commenting, then I would have gotten my answer lol. After watching more FCX18 videos it's a clear winner. My question now is do you know how I can disconnect the turn signals, but keep the other lights functional?
Brushed motors are fine with water as long as they get dried out. (Just run them for a bit once done with the water) bearings will rust if not greased/oiled. The esc and servo likely should be conformal coated.
While theoretically, the vehicle is pretty good, in reality, the quality of the material is very bad. I've bought it twice, and both times out of the box internal parts have come out damaged. Ended up spending so much time and effort just trying to figure out what's wrong with this car. Haven't been able to run it and only regret buying it.
That’s unfortunate. However, I think you are just unlucky as that sort of experience is definitely in the minority. I hope your issues get resolved. :(
Pretty much any of the high torque aftermarket servos can work, you just need an adapter or need to re wire the plug for the smaller rx plugs. There is also the rampcrab servos that already have the plug.
Hi there, my fcx18 would not hold itself and roll down at the steep ground when in 2nd gear even at 100% drag brake. Is this normal for the rc? (1st gear works fine)
Has anyone been able to figure out how to make the rear lights stay on? Can they be spliced into the headlights or is it something we need to do on the ESC?
Both are absolutely awesome trucks If you want a a brushed 2 speed and awesome scale body, I’d go fcx18 (more of a trial truck) If you want brushless and lower center of gravity. Furywagon (more of an actual rock crawler).
Just a question, why on my lc80 are all my links all black and has logo on them? I'm thinking because maybe it's a newer edition😊
Yes. Newer for sure.
I thought they were stainless but are black plastic.Just got tit three weeks ago
@@petertyson4036 maybe they changed something in production.
This video is basically a 'reference manual' for the model. Thanks a lot!
Hahaha thanks a ton for checking it out.
When I commented last night ... it was before I finished watching the rest of the video ... Tons of credit given to Mr.Shop-MiniRC lol for showing your community an entire rip down of a brand new truck ... now I have a reference point for when I do upgrades I would go back to this video thats a Large plus , even if your a good mechanic its awesome to be able to see what comes off and in what order ... Very Nice Ken ... Thanks for Sharing no need to respond again to me just felt like pointing this out ... Later Brother
Huge thanks for the full watch! The whole point of me opening them up is to help out! ;)
The FCX24 and FCX18 platforms are not separate scale entities in reality, those names are just FMS marketing spiel. Their first "1/24" FCX24 Power Wagon wasn't, the body/cab was 1/18 scale. It's misleading marketing to siphon sales away from Traxxas or Axial SCX24 OR they just don't understand scale (highly highly doubtful). They're capitalizing on both 1/24 and 1/18 fan bases but they have yet to create a true 1/24 because that would mean scaling down their frames and running gear and that costs money. Even the RC4WD 1/24 Trail Finder 2 is something like 1/20. Not a true 1/24 scale.
10:10 They used to use a blow molded Lexan bubble body with low detail but looks like T Truck is also using an injection molded ABS body, but I will say it still looks toylike compare to FMS. T Truck and FMS both are literally just molded plastic lol. I'm just making fun of your word choices lol. 😉
Yes.
Where can I find metal gears for both of my diffs? I keep stripping them out
there are some stores on ali express that have the metal diff gears but you might need to do some shimming to make them run smooth. You can also get the Smasher / FMT24 diffs that are metal. They are open diffs (so not good for crawling, more for high speed) but if you glue/lock them up, they work just like the normal spools... just in metal.
You can us shoe goo or e6000 glue to lock up all the spider gears and basically make it back into a solid axle. This should help your stripping issues.
I stripped out my low range In the tranny after the first day .Poor quality of compo ents compared.tp the 18 scale bronco
Would a 1.5mm Hex and 2.0mm Philips cover most of the screws on these? Any other ones I should pickup?
pretty sure thats all you'll really need... plus the cross wrench for the wheel nuts...
@@TheShopMiniRC Appreciate it! Looking forward to mine coming in the mail!
@@TheShopMiniRC Did you ever figure out what the stock shock oil weight is? Did 20wt make a discernable difference?
@@dandnguyen pretty sure it’s 20wt 200cst
@@TheShopMiniRC Good to know! Really enjoyed your tear down!
Traxxas is pure garbage commpared to fms, no contest
Facts.
I got the metal diff gears from FMS. What is the best grease to use for them?
We just use marine grease or white lithium grease.
What a bout the other 2 portS on the esc
if i remember right they are for lights.
better than trx4m?
We think so. (For a totally stock truck)
11:25 Buy the old model's (LC80, Katana, Patriot) clear glass while you can. I suspect however, that they are going to keep the EazyRC Patriot (with full interior and fender wells) and give it the EazyRC Thunderstorm treatment which is an impressive upgrade (new color choices, new waterproof ESC, lighting controls, etc).
Facts.
this video comes in for the clutch, accidentally snapped the driveshaft pins, now I know how to remove the transmission to replace them!
glad it helped you! Thanks a ton for the watch!
38:50 Seen a lot of stripped/skipping FMS plastic gears lately and I have to surmise they turned the abuse up to 11/10 to get it that way. Perhaps they put the truck up against a wall, on a carpeted floor (or whatever provides maximum traction) and squeezed full speed on the transmitter until the gearbox or axles went Brrrrtttt. Then they cry "this FMS is garbage!".😭 We have some really room-temperature IQ sorts who run these trucks into the ground within 24 hours of buying one. Or they give it to their toddler to play with and get similar results.
I’ve never broken a gear in a trans on one of these.
Bone dry inside the transmission? I did not expect that. If they are truly hobby quality nylon gears, they should essentially self-lubricating meaning they are naturally slippery and low friction.
Yeah. They are a higher quality nylon.
I have the original Rochobby Katana version. Gonna add some bigger tires and call it a day, but plan to get this upgraded version in the near future.
Nice! This lc80 is WAY more scaled out and smooooth
Just wondering why my LC80 vame with plastic and not stainless links
They must have changed the production run :(
Yes quality is very poor .Used it twice and the gears in low range have stripped already
I have had 0 issues with my truck. Did you buy the OLD lc80? there is an older version (Servo on chassis) and a new version (Servo on axle )
So where is the best place to purchase parts and accessories for this model ,which I just purchased
Tons of places. Anything for the fcx24/18 platform works. They are basically the same. Just the 18 has longer links.
Just Google search “fcx upgrades”
That terrain was breath taking
We are lucky.
@RuffCrawlersRC red rocks Elementary.
A straight axle conversion would be awesome.
I hope we see this from an aftermarket company soon.
Conversation or conversion? Conversion--the straight axles can be bought as spare parts.
Really glad I watched this. I'm getting my FCX18 today and I have a bunch of metal parts coming too. I was at a hobby store a couple of days ago and a guy there had a TRX4M with rear wheel steering and I fell in love with these little crawlers.
they are SOOOOOOOOOOOO addicting. You dont even wanna know how much our collection has grown in just 2 years lol
That’s a great video. We all have the right to seek our cool places to drive em but your taking the piss.. (that’s a compliment, greetings from England)
Hahha thanks!!! I guess I’ll take all the piss! Lol
Hello i have been watching your videos for a while now and i was just wondering if you could make a video where you can put a winch on it i have got my fms lc80 and i want to put a winch on it but i havent seen enyone do it and im afraid it wont work and it would be a waist of my money. Thank you if you can
its 100% doable. You just need to be able to plug in the servo into your channel three. You will likely need to switch your shift servo to channel 4 so that you can use channel 3 as your winch. Channel 4 is binary, on/off, left/right. So this is good for shifting low gear and high gear. The winch needs a 3 position switch, off, left and right. There are also 2 options for winches. One is a scale style winch that looks realistic and would need to be mounted on the bumper or outside of the truck. These winches are not super strong but they look good! The second type of winch is more just for a strong winch. You usually mount this on the inside somewhere and this type of winch is very strong. You just run the winch line out the front of the truck with a hook but the actual winch servo is inside the truck (like the shift servo)
Depending on how you do this will very much change how you mount the winch / servo.
@@TheShopMiniRCthanks for the info that really helps me your awesome
Wauh, that is a great, detailed review. And the footage: suberb 👍🏻
Huge thanks! We are lucky to have red rocks only 30 min away.
How much travel is the shocks and what is the dimensions of the springs thank you
looks like right at 10mm of travel and the spring are 9.5mm in diameter and 24mm tall
Idk if it works, but the original LC80 has clear windows, available separately.. FYI.
Should work just fine! We meant to mention that in the video. I totally spaced on it until after it was already exported.
Beautiful!
Will a brushless motor setup improve crawling?
It will make your throttle much more precise and controllable. It still comes down to driver though. ;)
👍
Stunning video of red rock country
Thanks!! It IS beautiful.
A hard body is a hard body not plastic molded .
what?
What do you think a hard body is made out of if not molded plastic?
There are 3 types of bodies/cages, Lexan, Hard Body (hard plastic like nylon, pvc or abs) and Metal (usually aluminum or titanium)
at least a hard body isn't all disstoted and look like a cartoon drawer made it.
@@lesabre1972 what? This body is like spot on… lmao. Not even remotely “distorted”.
received my land cruiser last year Christmas ,use maybe 3 or 4 times in side home , on floor , today i try to used only the lights on and steering wheel work not traction . no moved, full charge battery ,nothing some body know what the problem,tks guys.
Likely a bad battery. Usually when everything but the motor works, it’s the esc’s low voltage cut off preventing the motor from getting power. This means the battery is low. If you use the crappy usb charger, it won’t show you the actual voltage of the battery. Ask a hobby store or friend who can check the battery for you.
Shitty plastic parts that will break on you pretty much immediately: both differential drive gears, both driveshafts, transmission first gear. Figure in the cost of metal parts and then you have the actual price of this truck. I bought 2 and the exact same problems occured on both. One steering servo also died in the first 2 battery charges. Criminal
Hmm. Ours is still going strong.
I found a steel transmission mount online with sliders bars on each side.
Black, silver and grey
Nice!!!!
I'm confused by the remotes. This one has the 4 channel with the dip switches while the new lemur has the 3 ch. So, its not that they don't make them anymore, I just don't get it. I think that is the best remote for this size, you'd think it would have been best cost effective to just stick with one that works all around. Glad that's the one.
Yeah…. They should just stick with the dipswitches remote. My guess is it’s a cost thing. The non-dip is likely MUCH cheaper.
Love the video, just wondering if the plus and minus wires on the ESC are for the battery wires even though they're not in the same spot as the wires themselves?
I am kind of confused as to your question. Do you have a time stamp in the video that you are referring to?
Was just checking out the new FMS - FCX24 Lemur before this video.
Out lemur video should be up tomorrow or Friday.
Thank you for the video
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
Great video! Is the transmission in first gear quieter than the fcx24? Is it a bushing vs bearing issue?
It’s the same other than the bushings vs bearings. I didn’t notice a difference. Metal gears will definitely make it louder though (if you have them or have a furitek fx118)
Just wanted to say thanks for such an informative Vid on the LC80. I'll definitely be using this for reference in the future. That running location was amazing!!
Thanks a ton for watching. We love to hear that our videos help someone.
I picked one up and I love it ... a drop top heavy ... thats an easy fix ... really love this truck ... The Lighting system , the larger motor and the complete look of this truck, Battery size also ... way to go Ken
It’s soooo good!
Yeah like the original one has clear glass I want to get the interior and clear glass for mine
They need the clear glass and interior as an option
Yeah that don’t make no sense Phillips in the front hex in the back
Kinda odd right?!
I was going to say you’re taking out the wrong screws but this is the time to put on the hitch
;)
Yes, there's a couple of companies making medal ring and pinion. I'd rather buy the Masher open diff because they are definitely going to fit, and then squish some Liquid Weld in the spider gears.
There is one company that make overdrive portal gears. It's no very much overdrive but it'll help.
Portals all-day for minis.
Again, great info. It is nice knowing that the smasher gears will fit properly, that’s for sure. I haven’t really seen the portal gears readily available, do they have a ton of slop?
@@TheShopMiniRCThe underdrive gears make noise but the overdrive seem not to be noisy. I haven't noticed any more than usual slop
@@keldonator link to the gears?
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@@TheShopMiniRC It doesn't say those are underdrive but they are, they are 12t and the overdrive are 15t. So it's a small amount but together I'd say maybe 15-20%?
How’s it going Ken Yeah I got the gray one I love it here watching
Thanks a ton for watching. Awesome to see you again!
Hats off to the review very detailed and informative thank you
Glad you liked it!! Thanks a ton
So, you put your turn signals on after you start turning - in real life?
😳
hahaha if only i could control my signals separately on the RC... but to be fair, when I am off roading, i dont signal at all....
I've recently been thinking about getting back into the RC crawler world, but on a smaller scale (have a hpi venture that's been hibernating for 4 years) & originally I wanted to go 1/24. I was heavily leaning towards the new SCX24 Power Wagon and then I saw this guy on Amain's site. If you had to choose between the two which would you go with?
Also, great job on the videos! Straight a to the point, great info for beginners, and no flashy obnoxiousness trying to get views.
man.. sooo its hard say. Its really personal pref.
The FCX18 is slightly bigger than the SCX Power Wagon. The FCX has the 2 speed, portals and ring/pinion diff. The scx is straight axles, 1 speed and worm gear. The SCX has a LOT more aftermarket support (but the fcx support is growing a ton, you could build an fcx from all aftermarket parts, so there are plenty)
I donno my dude.. which one do you like the looks of better? lol
@@TheShopMiniRC I should've finished watching the video before commenting, then I would have gotten my answer lol. After watching more FCX18 videos it's a clear winner. My question now is do you know how I can disconnect the turn signals, but keep the other lights functional?
@@dgs.creates I mean, there is always cutting the wires. lol. Or try to find where it connects into the harness.
Would this rig be fully waterproof?
Brushed motors are fine with water as long as they get dried out. (Just run them for a bit once done with the water) bearings will rust if not greased/oiled. The esc and servo likely should be conformal coated.
I will be getting that RC and it's so cool
It’s a blast. You will love it.
I got the axle flatbed trailer hooks perfect to the hitch
Nice. We have one too and will have to try.
Yes the details is just awesome, really love how the hood open
Beautiful details.
Looks like my LAegendary Grando
Awesome truck.
If i was to get this, id lower it an change the light system plus change the wheels
For sure! This could be made to be even more awesome fairly easily.
@@TheShopMiniRC it definitely could! I actually bought the mccue mod k5 Friday morning since it was back in stock
While theoretically, the vehicle is pretty good, in reality, the quality of the material is very bad. I've bought it twice, and both times out of the box internal parts have come out damaged. Ended up spending so much time and effort just trying to figure out what's wrong with this car. Haven't been able to run it and only regret buying it.
That’s unfortunate. However, I think you are just unlucky as that sort of experience is definitely in the minority. I hope your issues get resolved. :(
Well, there are many reviews on amazing stating the same thing about bad quality. It’s a shame
@@RobertoOrtis weird. In the Facebook groups and TH-cam reviews… there has not been many quality issues
Best Walkthrough on TH-cam
Huge thanks my guy! Love your drift stuff.
That RUN FOOTAGE! 😍
It’s beautiful right?!?? We definitely are lucky. No Hoodoos though. ;)
How do I find a servo upgrade for this model
Pretty much any of the high torque aftermarket servos can work, you just need an adapter or need to re wire the plug for the smaller rx plugs.
There is also the rampcrab servos that already have the plug.
@@TheShopMiniRC ok I just wasn’t sure what would fit
Great Unboxing and Review
Thank you 🤗 and Thanks for watching!
You are Welcome my Friend 🐼👍🏻
Sweet 😅
We love it!
51:36.... Ty
Glad this helped you. ;)
Can you please tell me the battery backup if it's fully charged
I don’t fully understand your question.
@@TheShopMiniRC I am saying that how many minutes I can use this car after fully charged??
@@gyomei_playz at least 30-40. Depends on how hard you’re running it.
@@TheShopMiniRC I'll only do slow crawl :)
@@gyomei_playz you should get a good amount of time then. Also extra batteries are cheap.
After watching this, I went straight ahead and bought two trx4m, one bronco and one defender with a bunch of upgrades. Thank you for the review ❤
lmao. that bad aye?
You like switching the entire transmissions for switching gears? Fms is where it's at!!
@51:28 nice👍
You didn’t know about the screw flip?!
Hi there, my fcx18 would not hold itself and roll down at the steep ground when in 2nd gear even at 100% drag brake. Is this normal for the rc? (1st gear works fine)
Yeah. The high speed gear ratio is so high that the drag brake isn’t enough to stop it.
First time watcher, I ordered one of these litttle trucks and watched the video whilst I wait for delivery, very informative and really good watch
You’re going to love it!! Thanks a ton for watching.
Has anyone been able to figure out how to make the rear lights stay on? Can they be spliced into the headlights or is it something we need to do on the ESC?
You can probably splice them in, but we haven’t done it.
@@TheShopMiniRC Thanks
Hey Ken, would you recommend the lc80 fcx18 or the fury wagon fx118?
Both are absolutely awesome trucks
If you want a a brushed 2 speed and awesome scale body, I’d go fcx18 (more of a trial truck)
If you want brushless and lower center of gravity. Furywagon (more of an actual rock crawler).
I'm in the same boat. But this has bearings instead of bushings.