The History Of Disney Flops - Eddache
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Music:
Black Mass - Brian Bolger
Brain Trust & Epic Battle Speech - Wayne Jones
Can-Can - Offenbach
Christmas Homecoming, Fiesta de la Vida, Gaiety in the Golden Age, In the Temple Garden, Island Coconuts, Roundup on the Prairie, Saving the World, - Aaron Kenny
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Symphony No. 5 - Beethoven
Wanderlust (CC-BY) by Scott Buckley - www.scottbuckley.com.au
Chapters:
0:00 - INTRO
0:53 - WORLD WAR 2
7:27 - STATE OF THE ART
11:20 - THE RENAISSANCE BOOKENDS
16:03 - NO MUSICALS. NO PRINCESSES.
21:14 - MODERN DISNEY - ตลก
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I will die on the hill saying that "Emperor's New Groove" is a highly underrated Disney movie. The movie was funny as hell, especially with a voice cast of David Spade, John Goodman, Eartha Kitt and Patrick Warburton, to name a few.
I quote it to this day. For years, it was the only movie my entire family could agree to watch together.
Damn right. It's such a simple yet comedically rich story with how stupid and nonsensical it can get. Kronk is such a good character, performances for everyone are just the right balance of serious to silly. A top tier comfort movie.
Its development history is interesting (which makes you wonder what could've been), but in the end it became a comedy gold. No regrets.
This fellow fan of that movie approves this comment!
Yep. I’m happy that it’s gained a cult following over the years.
Eartha Kitt is phenomenal in it. Just… purr-fection. (Not sorry.)
The fact that _The Care Bears Movie_ becomes successful and beats Disney's _The Black Cauldron_ in the box office makes the "Care Bears Stare" defeating dark, evil villains more poetic and hilarious.
I'm pretty sure The Care Bears Movie was a hit thanks to brand recognition.
@@adultmoshifan87 This. Keep in mind this was the 1980's, when just about every cartoon in existence at the time was formulated under one purpose - to sell toys.
@@SailorMaxie thought so
@@SailorMaxie Yeah. After all, it was the 80s back when animated cartoons are one huge commercial for toy lines, especially for Transformers, MLP, or He-Man.
God I STILL love that movie, and the sequel. I rewatched them like a year ago and man, they still hold up. The music especially is SO good.
it's so interesting how many "flops" still became classics. i grew up loving fantasia and treasure planet
Alice for me
I loved phantasa I would fall asleep to it and it holds a special place in my childhood plus Robin hood to
An interesting thing/coincidence I'd like to point is that most of the biggest successes Walt Disney Animation had in the late-90s/early-2000s (Mulan, Tarzan, Lilo and Stitch, Brother Bear) were largely produced outside of California. Mulan, Lilo and Stitch, and Brother Bear were animated at Walt Disney World in Florida, and much of Tarzan was animated by animators in both France and Florida.
How did Disney repay the staff of these movies? They closed down the Florida animation facility right after Brother Bear released, effectively punishing the staff of their recent financial-successes for box office flops they had little involvement in.
What the actual fck
Always like the fact that The Lion King was Disney's B-movie while they expected Pocahontas to be the big film.
And what do they have occupying the space of that former Florida animation studio now? Star Wars Launch Bay. Like having that single Star Tours ride at WDW was never enough for them, they had to completely remove an attraction still reminding people of their animated legacy just to fill up the park with even more Star Wars now that they can milk off of the franchise as much as they want.
I had the wonderful experience of visiting WDW back in 1997 and seeing a bit of the Florida studio when it was still active, which was just a year before the release of their first animated feature Mulan, and can still remember seeing some of the animation for the movie being previewed on monitors in the uncolored stages. It's still extremely disheartening for me having to think of the cruel fate that befell the studio after producing a couple of genuinely good Disney movies, but even more so now knowing what kind of inferior attraction Disney now has sitting in its place.
In all fairness, the whole industry was moving out of Florida because the tax breaks weren't quite worth it.
Fun fact: Bambi was supposed to be the next Disney film after Snow White, not Pinocchio. Pinocchio was mostly a small knit group of Disney animators as the majority of the company was moved onto the 2 more ambitious projects. But Fantasia kept spiralling in size and was such a massive undertaking/money sink that they were forced to rush out Pinocchio.
Also another fun fact: Walt Disney’s father was a Pre WW1 Communist and Disney literally learned to draw by tracing his fathers Communist political pamphlets. That makes the animators strikes in the 40s and Walts strong response to them really ironic!
I imagine someone growing up with a Marxist parent could easily be anti-communist. Marxist’s aren’t good people. They’re always narcissists who think that if they were the king of the world everything would be a utopia.
What is marxism
@@mysticalkeyblade759 The expanded beliefs espoused by the unemployed rantings of the parasite known as Karl Marx. It’s espouses that capitalism is the root cause of suffering and that everyone is exploited and everyone should be constantly aware of their social class. And some bullshit about how workers should own the means of production even though they are unwilling to invest in creating the means of production.
@@mysticalkeyblade759 What is marxism?
@@mysticalkeyblade759 cringe
Atlantis & Emperors New Groove is by the far the most underrated excellent films of Disney, they're both so fantastic in their own ways!
I'd like to add Treasure Planet to this list.
Emperor's New Groove is so funny and ultimately so sweet and positive. I remember the first time I watched it, my mom said she was so happy to see a family in a Disney movie where the mom isn't dead, LOL.
But they really mismanaged the sequels. Kronk at least was able to recover over time, but Milo's Return, yeesh, that really was made as a tv show rather than a movie.
@@JamesTDG Milo's Return was a pretty decent movie, if you ask me. Not as good as the first, but the world-building was neat.
I agree, Emperors New Groove is literally timeless
Walt Disney: “Stop grumbling and do something about it!”
Narrator: “And so they did something about it.”
Cue Guillotine.
The thing about Strange world is the marketing wasn't just bad, it was nonexistent. My whole friend group was planning to go watch it in theatre and we didn't know it came out. We thought it wasn't out and we waited for trailers just assuming because we saw absolutely nothing that nothing new had happened with it, no new information and no release date. Then we saw it on Disney Plus! Like wtf, why wasn't marketed at all.
Yea i do not agree I've seen posters and ads
I don't think they even initially revealed it at a D23 or Comic Con or anything like that, they just randomly dropped a teaser on twitter a couple months prior to release and that was it
@@whatamidoing3065Where? I did not know it was even a movie until it was already out. Genuinely. Where did you find commercials for it without trying to?
@@eudstersgamersquad6738 i saw some on TH-cam and on the streets like bus station
@@whatamidoing3065 Interesting. Probably depends on where you live if you actually got advertisements for it or not would be my best guess.
I love how, unlike with other studios, a Disney movie bombing at the box office isn't necessarily a death sentence for it.
Indeed. They can still get remakes, sequels and/or animated series.
@@Alejandroigarabide And Disney rides and attractions, don't forget!
@@googamp32 plus they probably rake in quite a bit from international theaters, with or without China.
@@googamp32 Good point.
@@googamp32 Let's not forget toys and other merchandises too.
I remember seeing Rescuers Down Under on the big screen as a kid and being blown away at the flying scenes and landscapes. And Joanna the Goana is a hugely underrated Disney villain sidekick.
She's the best!! The egg scene is comedy gold.
I had the book for that movie as a kid and it was one of my favourites
Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite movies to rent at the video store as a kid! So good.
That scene was amazing in the cinema
I can’t think of this movie without thinking about that one flying scene where there near a building and one of the buildings is a playboy magazine picture
Here is the thing I find most astonishing. As an adult, to go back and watch any of these “b” Disney films, they are all unique pieces of art in their own way. It always shocked me that Alice, 101 Dalmatians, and sleeping beauty were considered less desirable than the others
Sleeping beauty is my favorite Disney movie
''Chicken Little managed to reverse the recent slump despite being fucking awful''
That is indeed a hurtle to overcome.
*hurdle
To this day I’m still pretty pissed at Disney for essentially putting Treasure planet in a place where it had no chance to do well, practically robing it of its potential.
and the fact they basically did the exact same shit with strange world for an even scummier reason
Like nintendo with every chibi robo sequal/spinoff in america
@@toastwings9358 sad how history repeats itself.
@@thefloppdontstop4405 It's not just Chibi Robo, Nintendo refuses to take Skip seriously compared to other developers like Retro Studios and Intelligent Systems.
We could have had a sequel with WILLEM DEFOE
*immense sobbing*
Treasure Planet will always have a special place in my heart. It's one of the earliest memories I have of seeing a movie in theaters and it was probably the catalyst for my love of Sci fi and pirates
My best friend & I absolutely love Treasure Planet. I also watched it in theaters. December 2002 during a trip in mexico.
I remember working at Hallmark back in the day, and they suddenly decided they were going to sell DVDs. (Not Hallmark movie dvds, for some weird reason, but I think it was specifically Disney.)
Treasure Planet was the first one they put out, and I’d never heard of it and assumed it was a straight to video release. I don’t think I’d seen a single poster, trailer, anything for it.
I’m still sort of surprised that this and Atlantis managed to gain such followings when it feels like Disney sent these off to die.
Yes, I also watched it at the cinema in London as a kid.
The biggest moral point of "Meet the Robinsons" is *Learn from your mistakes* . Be grateful for them, embrace them. They are the greatest teachers. The only thing you should fear is hopelessness and bitterness.
That's loser talk.
That’s my favourite Disney movie ever
Treasure Planet, Atlantis, The Emperor’s New Groove and Brother Bear are my absolutely favorite Disney classics. They deserved so much more.
I remember Brother Bear got me so emotional and mesmerised as a kid, especially the aurora borealis scenes
Atlantis and emperors new groove made back the budget
Brother Bear kinda poopy ngl homie
@@joshuasgameplays9850 U serious?
A factor that needs to be mentioned is budget. Disney keeps putting over 100 million into everything which causes bigger expectations. DreamWorks went through the same thing and the big costs meant possible hits were seen as flops because the income didn't match the big costs. But recently DreamWorks has scaled down their budgets with the animation being more stylized and even Croods 2 kept the same look on a smaller budget.
Their 2022 movies were seen as big hits mostly because it was easier to top the lower budgets, at least lower by Hollywood standards. I get some movies need big budgets but not everything does so that's something Disney should keep in mind for the future. As well as putting less stock in streaming to make up for theatrical losses.
Hard agree! Completely different genre, but I look at a production company like Blumhouse as one of the pinnacles of success. They made Happy Death Day for less than $5M and it made $125M in theaters. Invisible Man was made for $7M and made $144M in the beginning of the pandemic, when theaters were very rapidly closing.
Even Spider-Verse only had a $90 million budget! And it’s considered one of the best, if not the best animated film of all time!
Puss in Boots II costed $90 Million, and it had made three times that in the theatres. I think that Bad Guys had a similar budget with a decent ROI.
And Disney is fatiguing the audience pool through owning so many franchises, and pumping out substandard titles annually.
The games industry needs to learn this lesson, too!
As a fan of the Black Cauldron, I have long maintained that 1) the Great Mouse Detective is the start of the Disney Renaissance and 2) we wouldn't have the Disney Renaissance without Black Cauldron
About TGMD, I rewatched it recently and thought it to be pretty meh. Like, especially the villain was without substance.
I couldn't agree more on both points.
@@DogDogGodFog to be fair to the TGMD they leaned on the hope that you understand that Basil is just mouse Sherlock Holmes and Rattigan is rat Moriarty and it worked.
@@98Rhiannon I know that it's Sherlock Holmes, I'm not stupid. I just meant to say that it's a pretty meh adaptation of it. I saw miles better ones.
You forgot Oliver and Company. Though not great critically, it did beat Land before Time at the box office and gave Disney its mojo back.
Rescuers Down Under is actually amazing - the animation is breathtaking, and that first flight scene honestly brings a tear to my eye to this day.
It's also one of ths few times a Disney sequel was arguably a huge step up from the original.
Yeah, we had it on tape (a Christmas present from my grandmother) and I loved it. I was actually surprised when I learned that it was considered a flop.
I grew up watching Rescuers, and it meant so much to me. When I watched it again after about 9 years from the last time, I cried because of pure nostalgia. I will always praise that movie. It is gorgeous
As for me I only saw Down Under several times, but I've never seen the original, lol
@@DogDogGodFog Down Under gets way more love. I'm not sure why. I prefer the original. It's darker though, that's for sure. That might be part of the problem.
I love the Rescuers Down Under. The weirdest part is how the movie ends abruptly with so many lose threads. Wilbur isn't reunited with the cast. The captive animals are forgotten about. It feels like it got cut down after storyboards were done but before animation was completed.
Don't forget that The Princess and the Frog lost a huge amount in the box office because it opened a week prior to Avatar
And also the first Sherlock Holmes with RDJ.
Ironic, as Avatar is now in Disney +. So Disney now just sees this as an absolute win.
I still have not forgiven Mr. Cameron for making that stupid environmental propaganda film instead of adapting the story by Théophile Gautier.
So does that mean marketing the film costs over twice the budget because that film made almost 3 times the budget yet it lost a huge amount of money?
@@4Corry The budget you see reported doesn't usually factor in marketing and other promotional expenses. It's a general rule in Hollywood that your movie needs to make at least double its budget just to break even.
I’m a 90s kid, grow up watching Aladdin, Hercules and also some Disney classics before my time. Wasn’t until I grow up that I discover that some of my favorite Disney films were considered failures when they were released 😮
This was a great video, I agree that failure can be a better teacher than success.
And I love the pizza box joke 😂
explain the joke?
@@TheThiccestChungus Andrew Tate was arrested thanks to a pizza box
A 90s kid?
DDDDUUUUUUDDDDDDEEEEE
My favs are The Jungle Book and 101
The end of this video is my absolute favorite, but also the saddest, thing about this whole video. I desperately wish modern Disney just wasn’t as afraid of failure as they seem to be. Everything feels the way it does now because they’re terrified to push the envelope and lose money. The company is just so large now with so many assets, and everything is more expensive to make than ever before. But pushing the envelope and boundaries is what resonates with so many of us still to this day. It’s truly where the magic came from. And it’s just mind boggling to me that that fact takes a back seat because, at the end of the day, it’s “just business”.
I will not rest until the whole world know’s how amazing Treasure Planet is.
Same. And especially Disney themselves.
Came here to say that The Rescuers Down Under was one of the only movies from my childhood that felt just as good upon rewatching as it did the first time. Any scene with that eagle is just TOO COOL, in a mature way. The rest of the movie of course holds up too. Probably because it isn't particularly fantasy-centered or childish - and instead focuses on more serious and realistic themes, such as poaching of endangered animals. Also, the boy is in actual mortal danger, with guns and all. I like that.
Something worth noting about that music cue from Dinosaur getting reused again and again, even by other studios: that's not the first time that's happened. On several Disney DVD releases, the disc opens with a brief montage of clips beginning with Jack Sparrow speaking the line "We have our heading," then Peter Pan announcing "Here we go!" This is then followed by a portion of the opening title music from Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (which was itself used as part of that movie's production company for many years in the 90s).
Fun fact about Oswald: the only reason he came back to Disney was a trade for Al Michaels from ESPN to NBC for football games
Giving Dinosaur some additional points, along with the Journey of the Egg, that incredible meteor sequence in permanently burnt into my childhood memories.
Also Atlantis is amazing with diverse characters and beautiful visuals.
I grew up watching Disney vhs as a kid. Throughout the 90s, old Disney movies made me want to be a writer as I want to make my own amazing stories like the ones I watched as a kid. This video really takes me back. Good job, Edd
Disney movies always made me want to be a writer too. :)
This is honestly a really good message about how failures should make you stronger instead of weaker, put in a great way as well. Some box office bombs have become cold classics whilst others have been renowned as underrated masterpieces.
I hate that The Great Mouse Detective isn't more well-known. It's such a great movie. It has Vincent f---ing Price for god's sake!
The Great Mouse Detective was released on the same date and year as Don Bluth’s An American Tail in which The Great Mouse Detective did not win
Unfortunately, there are not many people who can manage to make animated history exciting. But Eddie Bowley has definitely cracked the code. Well done!
Eh, Yesterworld Entertainment's better.
Disney's The Wild is the least Disney Disney film Disney ever Disney'd
I remember uh......um.....uuuuh....a koala, and I think, a Python choked a Giraffe
It’s because it wasn’t made by Disney directly but Disney just bought the rights and released it.
Oliver and Company is another one, it's like they saw Ralph Bakshi Movies and though, "Man NYC would make a great sitting for our next film but keep it G, we got a name to keep"
Disney was ahead of his time with a lot of his movies. I remember watching Sleeping Beauty for the first time as a kid in the early 00s and I thought it was a work of art
Treasure planet is one of, if not my undisputed, favourite movie. The setting, the glisten in my eye, the tears. Just everything about it is amazing
That ending was so touching, it's so true, I failed 4 times in college before I found the career that really made me happy. Failure is not the end, it's the beginning, thanks for that, Eddache.
Both an interesting video and an emotional rollercoster!
The end segment about failure being a part of success got me surprisingly emotional 😅
Great video Eddie!
Its funny cause I loved the black cauldron as a kid, I remember watching it before going out of dinner on birthday. My dad named our lizard after Johana from the rescuers
The Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Cartoons about talking mice being tiny in general were always among my favorites, actually.
Atlantis is one of my favorite animated movies ever. Milo and Kida are probably my favorite Disney couple, the action scenes are truly thrilling, and there's an important message about respecting other cultures instead of trying to capitalize off of them.
Man, Treasure Planet is still one of my favorite movies because of how much I connected with Jim’s want of a father.
My favorite part of Eddache videos is they go places I didn't expect, and make my think things I didn't consider. Well done Eddie
All of these "floops" from the 90s and 2000s are some of my favorites
Treasure planet is honestly one of my favourite movies I've watched it countless times and enjoy each one just as much as the first, it will always hold a special place in my heart
True dat.
Honestly so did I. Heck I loved the Care Bears period as a kid. I had no idea the first movie beat the black cauldron at the box office!
I literally just discovered & subscribed to your channel less than 10 minutes ago & was just thinking to myself:
"Man, his last video was 2 months ago. Hope it doesn't take him that long to upload a new one. "
...and here we are.
The best part was the reference to Walking with Dinosaurs! That show was my entire childhood! I still have my old videotapes in my room, together with Walking with Beasts, god.. The nostalgia
21:46 Ok, I just rewatched the movie and let me just say this. I know that some of the stuff in Meet the Robinsons isn’t that good, but it is still a great movie. With interesting ideas and characters like Lewis and Wilbur, an amazing score with the help of Danny Elfman, and a great message that pushed even me to “Keep Moving Forward.” Also, Bowler Hat Guy is a funny and great villain (he’s basically a mix of Doofensmirtz and Waluigi). It definitely deserves more love and attention
Remember: when a piece of media bombs, it does not make it bad. Coloration does not causation. there are plenty of TV shows and films I love that did not do well, but I feel are underappreciated. It could be bad timing too as you mentioned. WWII, pandemics, not the right time to release. I hear if certain films came out ten years earlier or later, it would have been a hit.
Pinocchio will always be my favourite Disney classic of all time and that's never going to change.
Wow. History does repeat itself. Negligence in the workplace, financial struggle, the center of issues from the public which some for the wrong reason, and events for the time that change us audience. But in the end, there will be an audience for films that have bombed or merely forgotten that deserve to be talked about.
Can I just appreaciate you dedicated a moment to discussing a score by James Newton Howard, a very underrated composer in the industry. Respect and yes, that score is beautiful.
Walt Disney was a very difficult man to work with, he was always looking for perfection but you can't deny how inspiring his journey was. He was abused as a kid, betrayed by his animators in the early days, called insane when released snow white, seeing his passion project fantasia bombed and yet he never gave up. For me the company is WALT Disney animation studios and i'll always look him as an inspiration (in the animation/artistic department of course not in his personal life stuff, he was a man of his time)
Treasure planet, Atlantis, Emperors New Groove are all childhood classics for me
I teared up at the last part. My life is so hard right now. Didn't expect that from a Disney animation video. Thank you, youtuber
Meet the Robinsons was 100% a massive part of my childhood, so I'm really happy to see Eddie giving it some good attention!!
I always loved Treasure Planet (the same time with Titan A.E) I love the mix of the traditional and 3D
Treasure Planet is one of my favourite movies of all time. It’s sad to hear it didn’t succeed, it was amazing.
If there's anything history has taught us, it's that for every new Disney low, there's always a new Disney high in the horizon.
I’m so happy to finally hear someone mention how incredible the Dinosaur Main Theme. It is just full of this boundless optimism and love of life, it moves me to tears. Too bad it got buried in a forgotten Disney film, but no wonder it was used as stock music for film trailers.
Fantastic presentation as usual, these are consistently some of the most informative, entertaining and thoughtful documentary-style pieces on TH-cam.
Atlantis and Treasure Planet are my favorite Disney movies, Black Cauldron is severely underrated, and Rescuers Downunder is Disney's most gorgeous and visually spectacular film.
I definitely agree with you on treasure planet, love that movie. However, I never cared for Atlantis though, I don’t hate it per se but it could’ve been a lot better.
@@maxpowell3275 Specifically, I love the Finnish dub of it. It has an energy to match the animation and characters that the English one lacks. If you look up clips here on TH-cam, you'll see what I mean. Like this one: th-cam.com/video/XQu2H4WMZUw/w-d-xo.html
@@SchazmenRassir Yeah, it does fit better
Strange World really wasn't even given a chance. It wasn't hyped or advertised nearly like Disney usually does. :/
Lightyear hurt Strange World.
@@nicholasdruce5346 That's true. I never even thought about lightyear coming out.
Treasure Planet is honestly my favorite disney movie, I honestly don't understand why it was a flop.
The pizza box quip alone is a 10/10 😂
I don't get it
@@CodenameBolts Andrew Tate joke. It's a joke that'll age like milk in a few months.
@@rommix0 oh that guy sucks
@@CodenameBolts indeed. Anyone who's a trafficker shall go to hell.
This is gonna be a weird connection but bear with me.
So I've always been strangely drawn to The Black Cauldron. Something about it just ticks all the right boxes for me. I was 4 when it was released and I didn't see it till I was a teen so I don't know where the fascination came from. I had no idea there was a book. There's actually 5 books and Black Cauldron is the 2nd in the anthology called The Chronicles of Prydain. In them is a character named Prince Gwydion. Gwydion is a name from Welsh mythology who was a hero, magician and trickster.
There was a Sierra game I played as a kid called King's Quest and the third game in the series had you play as a boy named Gwydion. Gwydion in the game has to learn magic to trick his master and escape and he learns he is actually Prince Alexander of Daventry. The author of The Black Cauldron and The Chronicles of Prydain is Llyod Alexander.
Sierra also made the Black Cauldron game.
I loved the King’s Quest games! I also read the Black Cauldron books years ago end wished someone would make a live-action movie
Sierra was my childhood. I grew up with the King's Quest and Quest for Glory games. We had the Black Cauldron video game as well (played that years before I actually saw the movie) and the midi version of the theme song to that game will be burned into my brain until the day I die.
I love black cauldron so much -- it was my first taste of horror and it still feels so strange and magical. The animation of the whimsy and grotesque clash so beautifully, and the theremin soundtrack is just gorgeous and so mystical. This was such a great vid, lots of insights I'd never heard!
my family had rescuers down under and I remember quite liking it, weird being reminded that it was a flop, same with Dinosaurs, heck when he was younger it was my brothers favorite movie. also I'm with Ilovekimpossiblealot, Treasure Planet was incredible
despite being a 90's kid i have seen most of those flops(on VHS) as a kid with the Emperor new groove as my favourite.
1:07 Mussolini tried to make a full length Pinocchio movie
He didn't give the animators enough money, so it was cancelled. This was in 1937
Honestly I absolutely love Black Cauldron. It's one of my favorites.
It seems the list will grow now much faster.
We as viewers are a fickle bunch. We want to see something new and novel, at the same time familiar and comforting. Many of these failures were because Disney either didn't make it new and different enough or it wasn't a lot like it's previous classics. The amount of time it takes to make a movie, often people views and preferences may have changed in that time frame.
Treasure planet is such a tragedy, it is one of my favourite movies of all time
Often there isn't much correlation between critical and commercial success, but it seems to hold up pretty well here. All of the Disney movies that are acclaimed as truly great movies - The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast etc - those made absolute bank.
(Except Fantasia, though I've always felt there's a lot of emperor's new clothes going on when people discuss that movie, like because it's artsy you look smart for praising it, so everyone praises it without even necessarily watching it first.)
What a wonderful event 👏 to watch. Thank you so very much. We love your channel!!!
Also The Emperor's New Groove is Disney's most underrated movie FIGHT ME! "BOO YEAH BABY!'
Meet The Robinsons is definitely one of my fav Disney movies.
This is phenomenal and I’m so glad the app suggested you
Very entertaining and informative video! I loved the part where you included people who genuinely love these movies. It's so nice to see that, despite everything, these movies managed to find their audience and bring a smile to someone's face.
One of my family's favorite Disney Movie was Emperor's new Groove. We all absolutely adore it! For the longest time it was the one thing besides family that I shared with my older sister who is 11 years older than me. And to this day we absolutely love it.
3:11 In the immortal words of Yzma, “Smash it with a hammer!”
I’ve seen every animated Disney movie mentioned, except Dinosaur 🦖 😂 but I’m 🇬🇧 and when Walking with Dinosaurs came out on TV it was a smash. Makes perfect sense.
I watched Strange World on Disney plus. I liked it, it was nothing groundbreaking or really blew me away but was a perfectly enjoyable watch.
I think Strange World and Encanto are both proof that streaming is the way to go. Both weren’t large successes but huge on Disney+. Not to say don’t release movies in theaters, but some movies are gonna be more successful online.
It helps that for parents a Disney+ day one release is a no brainer. Plenty of people are still struggling financially from the fallout of Covid lockdowns, lack of government support and the long term physical problems of having Covid, on top of rampant inflation caused by inept governments raising tax on the lowest earners instead of chasing up the Corporation tax that Amazon, Starbucks and other companies do not pay, ON TOP OF the massive amount of price gouging from energy & fuel companies over the last year since Russia invaded Ukraine & the UK and US Government rubbed their hands together at the thought of selling more weapons to both sides.
Poor or money-concious parents with more than one kid to pay £5+ snacks, drinks, parking, fuel etc for? Sure, 1 movie like a new MCU movie or Universal or Sony animation movie in the cinema every few months, but if it releases on Disney+ day 1, then save the money and they can rewatch it endlessly and you're less often gonna get bombarded by the repetitive "Let it Go" and "How Far I'll Go" sessions
And it also is important to note that "Encanto" still was at the top at the box office and became the second most profitable animated movie of that year.
But it would also have made more money if it hadn’t gotten a shorter theatrical run than what many earlier Disney movies did due to the pandemic.
Then it became a huge hit when it was made avaible for streaming and won the Best Animated Feature Oscar and had a number 1 single and won a Grammy.
"Sing 2" is heralded as the bigger hit by some Disney haters, but they don't want to see that box office results isn't the only measure of success especially during a pandemic.
Besides, people talk so much more about "Encanto" than about "Sing 2", that I must say that in the end, it is clear which movie made the biggest impression on the public...
Maybe it has to do with my massive nostalgia for Disney, but I actually got a little teary-eyed at the ending bit. Keep making great content, Edd.
I've seen a lot of these, loved almost all of them! Treasure Planet especially is one of my childhood faves!
Your videos are always improving! Keep up the good work!
I had to pause the video at the “shortened Alice In Wonderland” part because I was laughing so hard. Brilliant editing. 😂
Disney history is always fascinating. Thank you for making this video.
Apparently Walt was actually a very caring man, but difficult to work with. He was the sort of man who did a lot of things with other people in mind, but didn't listen to their input on the subject. He was also very demanding and sparing with praise, but readily offered opportunities to employees who impressed him.
Basically, he was very similar to Mr House from "Fallout: New Vegas", but who made fantasy stories rather than technology.
He was also a very loving father and grandfather, but a very distant husband to his wives. Walt seemed to be most in his element when he was doing things for children.
I just wanted to put this here so y'all know that he wasn't a total grumpy butt. He was just a man with big dreams, who got upset when people interrupted his ideas with real-world affairs. His brother dealt with all that.
P.S. He also wasn't anti-Semitic.
He only had one wife, but no, he was not anti-demotic.
@@jaynekranc8607 My mistake, I thought he divorced and remarried in the 40s.
Excellent video, well researched and entertaining. I grew up during the Disney Renaissance and didn't know they ever had any flops! lol
Goddamnit Eddie, that speech at the end really hit me. As a creator struggling to find my way into the things I want... That really was something I needed to hear.
That I am a huge Disney and animation fan and I have not even heard of Strange World is pretty ridiculous.
And I'll be the millionth person to say that Treasure Planet is entirely underrated.
Really loved this video and our perspectives on failure - I always find it wild how movies like Emperor's, Treasure, Atlantis, etc. are considered flops but I loved them! Meet the Robinson's even has a special place in my heart. Thank you for making this!
Love your videos so much they always brighten my day ♡ have a good one
Hey Eddache, I'm a huge fan of your content and wanted to ask you two questions.
1) Do you like making content based on different films/cartoons or are you planning on moving onto different types of media?
2) What was it like working on Eddsworld?
You may answer these questions or not. Either way, keep up the good work!
Treasure Planet didn't fail because people were tired of 2D animation, the west was tired of DISNEY 2D animation and disney-fied stories and Shrek just added further light to the problem. There's a contempt many have for animation even now, despite the medium having the guts and ability to tell stories and use subject matter no other style will touch.
What a beautiful informative video man
Like a lot of movies that bomb in their initial theatrical engagements, Disney's failures tend to make up losses in the afterlife of revival screenings, TV showings, and home video, more often than not eventually showing a profit.
The Emperor’s New Groove is sooo under appreciated 😭😍