The missing ingredient is sincerity. The past spoofs have a clear feeling of sincerity. Charlie Chaplin had something to say in "The Great Dictator", Mel Brooks had a clear love of the movies he parodied in "Young Frankenstein" and "Spaceballs." He had something to say about the western-genre in "Blazing Saddles." Even the older-spoofs that were purely for the jokes kept them going at a machine-gun pace. The wordplay-jokes in "Airplane!" were many but were short and sweet.
I love Blazing Saddles so much. I can't imagine it would have been a better film if Brooks got his original intended casting of Richard Pryor as Bart and John Wayne as the Waco Kid, the screen chemistry between Cleavon Little and Gene Wilder was just too perfect.
I could see nowadays spoofs being about pressing onto you that very specific political narrative that has become oh so common nowadays in literally everything that is produced :D
@@KamiNoBaka1 Blazing Saddles is one of my TOP favorites of all time. (It wont be appropriate now cause of some of the scenes. which is sad.) its a cult classic along with History of the World part one. the roman scene had me in stiches. Same with Young Young Frankenstein. "Hes my BOYFRIEND". Cloris Leachman and Marty Feldman were comedy gold!!we cant forget Gene Wilder and Peter Boy;e as well. I even add Monty Python and Flying Circus & the all the Monty Python Films, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Airplane, Naked Gun, Reservoir Dogs (When Tom Sizemore cuts the cops ear off and starts talking into like its function). Like someone else mention the Great Dictor with Charlie Chaplin. (his speech send chills down my spine. there is some truth in what he says)
Isn't that the one where they hear a disturbance and go out with shovels, then when they see something one of them racks the shovel like a shotgun, but it actually ejects a shell?
Life of Brian's best joke is the part where he is speaking to the crowd from the balcony. B: "You're all individuals." C: "We're all individuals. " B: "You're all unique." C: "We're all unique." B: "You're all different." C: "We're all different." A single individual in the back: "I'm not."
That scene when of think of it. It's like today's society. It just has the remittance of how everyone today follows this ideology of we are special. And the few that disagree is the outsider. Late night comedy is a perfect example.
@@smo-king6504Ringo produced and starred in Carry, a Terry Southern update to Candide, a Voltaire satire. Terry Southern wrote the book and script for Dr Strangelove with Peter Sellers in 3 roles. Ringo backed Magic Christian, too.
I just posted the same thing and scrolled down to see your post. Ringo produced and starred in Carry, a Terry Southern update to Candide, a Voltaire satire. Terry Southern wrote the book and script for Dr Strangelove with Peter Sellers in 3 roles. Ringo backed Magic Christian, too.
“The black and full of cream” joke from Airplane Mode doesn’t even work because it can’t be a black coffee if it’s full of cream EDIT: somehow people are still responding to my 2 year old comment explaining to me that the joke is about cum. i know what cum is and i understand the joke is about creampies. the problem with the joke is that it is meant to be a double entendre, yet only works as a cum joke, with the coffee layer of the joke not having any logic behind it
@@LazurizSolari no, we understand that he's talking about women but then he can't compare them to his coffee because the coffee he describes makes no sense
@@IfIHadMyTimeAgain Exactly. Using the joke's logic, every cup of coffee is black _before_ cream/sugar/whatever is added, rendering the comparison useless. Maybe "black with a drop of cream at the end" would've worked.
The real reason Merchandising was a joke in Spaceballs was because the only rule George Lucas set for Brookes was that no toys or merchandise could be sold as it would be too easily confused for Star Wars merch.
His lazy dismissal of declining Hollywood writing standards via jumping to a theory of bigotry and sexism being why the genre is hurting should tell you he isn't likely to do much research... Like yeah some jokes didn't age well no shit, that's not the issue as a whole and that's what he puts a pin on at the end as the reason for the decline not maybe the instinct to stay relevant in the internet age when memes can become phenomenons and die I'm the same 72hr cycle all while being written on the cheap by hacks or by people some studio executive thinks the kids like.
My Dad used to tell me a lot that the merchandise jokes in Spaceballs were rooted from the fact that George Lucas was completely fine with Mel Brooks making it, his only condition was that the movie could produce *zero* merch.
But it’s also a commentary of how crazy George Lucas had became about the commercialization of Star Wars. I mean he changed aspects of the return just to sell toys. Ewoks we’re supposed to be Wookiee’s but George didn’t think Wookiee’s would see toys so he made them tiny.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd heard another part of the deal, aside from just being cool with it legally, was that his studio actually helped with the effects in Spaceballs
I have to drop in an UM ACTUALLY about the Police Squad TV show: it wasn't cancelled because it had to be watched "chronologically", but because it had to be watched AT ALL. A large portion of the audience would leave the show on in the background and only half pay attention to it; thus, because the dialogue was delivered completely deadpan, most of the audience didn't even realize they were watching a comedy!
SUPRISE! I am the funniest YTer evah!!!! Just kidding, it was no surprise. Everybody knew already. HAHAHHAHA!!!! That was an amazing joke (it was real talk though). WAWAWAWAWA!!!! Good afternoon, dear vic
I think TH-cam killed the spoof movies. The disconnected self aware humor was perfect for short videos. Channels like Smosh, How It Should Have Ended or most recently Pitch Meeting could react to trends and new movies much quicker. The rise of meme culture also meant that the most obvious jokes were already made and shared by millions before someone could even begin to write a screenplay. The parodies that did survive were more story and character driven with occasional self-awareness, like What We Do In the Shadows or American Vandal.
I don't disagree, but it's also worth noting that most modern blockbusters *also* include the sorts of jokes spoof movies used to have - jokes about the popular perception of the characters in the movie, meta-jokes about the plot not being very good, calling some character by an insulting nickname in a very meta way (like the Squidward" line in Avengers), awkward moments where the movie slows everything down to comment on itself... like where's the room for a spoof movie of Thor: Love and Thunder? It's already a spoof of itself.
Movies like Airplane and Naked Gun, their humor relied pretty minimally on the references they were making fun of. Those movies' comedy holds up to this day, even if someone doesn't have a single clue about any of their pop culture references
really i think metahumor is what killed it, when it was used for gags or commentary it was good, but the daredevil style of humor done in the "from the producers of scary movie" fashion is what really did it in. its all just "hey, you like this right? isn't it dumb? well we can make it dumber"
Actually I think it was the scary movie series and the spoofs they did later. The first two movies were good and they were mostly spoofing specific things about the genre and scream but after the third it was just more and more random comedy without making fun of anything specific. For example think about the scene in the first one where the girl is trying to escape and comes to the death and safety signs and then falls into the chalk outline of her body. Now compare that to scary movie 3. Just about any part of it.
@@olstar18 i actually loved scary movie 3 and 4...and I'm saying that as an Airplane and Naked Gun fan. Yeah, the genre is spoofs bit a great one doesn't rely on the references. I grew up loving Naked Gun despite having no clue what they were referring to for most of it.
It's probably already been pointed out(probably multiples times), but one of the later good spoof movies is Tucker & Dale vs Evil, albeit it's more on the Scream end of the spectrum. Like many of the better ones, the characters are played more straight, they're not all a bunch of a-holes, and it has an actual story.
My view: Early spoofs succeeded at the box office, so Hollywood made more of them, whether or not they had good writers or premises - so they started getting dumber, and failed at the box office, so Hollywood made fewer of them. They'll come back. This is definitely a greed-driven cycle.
I think he made a good point about the internet's impact on it though. There's so many creative people out there able to parody with lower and lower budgets as technology gets cheaper and more people are willing to work for exposure
Defining what IS a spoof and what ISN'T a spoof is like trying to say exactly what each generation is by birth year without caring about location, lifestyle, and class setting. Who is this guy that we decide he's an authority? Noting against him, I'm honestly only upset that he's cool with pedophiles but not with homophobes and sexists against women. Seems like this video was VERY controlled by what he thinks the algorithm wants.
You can pinpoint the exact moment it died - the moment Borat appears in Epic Movie repeating lines from the original Borat film. There's no joke, he's just there for you to go "Oh, that's Borat".
Men in Tights is probably my all time favourite spoof movie. One that is criminally overlooked is The Fearless Vampire Killers. Watched that one a ton as a kid. Great spoof of the vampire concept without invoking/relying on Dracula. Wayne's World is basically a spoof of itself, the SNL skit, and 80s-90s metal fandom. One of the better modern day spoof movies (although it's pretty old now), is Tropic Thunder.
I'm brazilian, and I remember watching this movie. It was translated as "Todo Mundo Hispânico", a pun with "Todo Mundo em Pânico", the brazilian title for Scary Movie. I still consider this title one of the cleverest translations of a title I ever seen.
I honestly love every Leslie Nielsen spoof movie. They're always absolutely hilarious and absurd! I love so many forms of comedy, including stupid slapstick
What killed spoofs? Short answer: cash grabbing. Long answer: as Mel Brooks said, "You've got to love and respect the material you're spoofing." That's why his movies worked and are still watchable today (and, yes, could also be made today. I'm sick of hearing they couldnt). The morons that came up with Meet the Spartans and Date Movie only saw easy money. They didn't appreciate the effort it takes to make a smart spoof like Austin Powers or Blazing Saddles because they don't care about the source material.
A good example available here on TH-cam is the Dragon Ball Z Abridged series that remixes, recuts, and redubs DBZ. It's pretty funny to watch, but it's notable how many of thematic beats of Toriyama's original work are explicitly referenced. It could only be made by people who were poking fun at something they deeply enjoyed. Edit : I think that's just a core conflict within art in general. To make things like cinema, you need a lot of money, it's a business endeavor that might incidentally create artistic output. The art and business interests are not always opposed to each other, but they're certainly aren't always aligned either.
@@Bustermachine holy musical b@tman is a lot the same. It's a smaller production, made by fans here on youtube, and the absurdity mixed with the obvious love of the characters makes it so much more funny than some other more recent spoofs
@@Bustermachine from all the abridged parodies like, code ment, death note abridged, ksihinpain, grimmjack, the schmuck squad, myotasterisretarded etc. you pick the one unfunny one. YOu are the problem with spoof movies.
I really liked Walk Hard. It's humor wasn't really derivative of many previous spoof flicks, possibly because spoofing the dramatic biopic (mainly Walk The Line) was a novel idea at the time. Plus it delivers laughs w/out constantly referencing or spoofing other movies, but rather the culture surrounding Rock & the music industry during that period. I saw it as a breath of fresh air.
It's a very underrated film that actually has a lot to say about the dramatics of rock stars and the industry all told through the lens of one man's inflated ego. I particularly love Dewey's obsession with helping little people and the part where he invents punk .
That would be awesome if donne well! I have a similar idea for a Superhero Movie sequel (being a lot less of a classic than The Naked Gun, it would have greater chances ofa remake being good). The first one took most of its plot from Spider-Man, so it would be ideal for a sequel to lampoon how we had two Spider-Man reboots since then. I envision a scene where the movie "stops" as some excecutives bring character from all sorts of other franchises on set because the studio was bought by Disney and the film is part of a cinematic universe now, and the main character is confused and anoyed the whole time (in classic spoof fashion, he is still the character instead of reverting into the actor playing him but he's also aware of the fact he is a fictional character in a movie). And also, to lampoon all those internet rumors of Tobey McGuire appearing in a Multiverse centric Spider-man sequel, a running gag throughout the film would be teasing or implying an imcoming cameo of the actor from the first movie that never gets to happen. Maybe that's what the genre need to revitalize itself, to mock not only the thropes and clichés but also the movie-making process and how a lot of their decisions now come more form a corporate perspective than an artistic one
@@Mario_Angel_Medina Are you sure You don't wanna write your own script? Cause all of your ideas sound great! Like that would actually be really entertaining and clever if done right.
Idk why but the 2 gags that really made me laugh for w/e reason were the "He was married with a child, that didnt work so he married an adult" and the parachuting one "Geronimo, Geronimo....Me..."
The one that had me crack up was the two sheens on their resprective patrol boats, but only because I remember the set up for that and it's genuinely great.
I've always thought of "The Princess Bride" as a sort of spoof movie, because it just gives me that sort of feeling/vibe, just without all the unneeded pop culture references
It totally was a spoof movie. Like you said, it didn't have the pop culture references, but it didn't take itself too seriously and at the same time, it was authentic in the way they presented it.
@settingittowumbo1953 the ROUS bit isn't even the movies strongest jokes, because there's definitely so many quotable moments and fun parts of the movie, but yet the ROUS stick out anyways
What happened to spoof movies is what happens when you forget to include actual jokes in your comedy movie and live by the principle that random equals funny.
@@lidmc796 I think earlier spoofs were just funnier because they chose one thing, analyzed, and were clever. At a certain point they started doing 500 shallow and flaccid things in a single film that were less thought out. It transformed from quantity over quality of jokes.
The SpaceBalls merchandising gag was an inside joke between Brooks and Lucas because Lucas told him he could spoof anything he wanted to about Star Wars but couldn't do any merchandising
I hope someone else mentioned this: He *completely* misunderstood the quote about the failure of Police Squad -- the one he put on screen. It's worth being pedantic about because it is so Interesting. Police Squad didn't fail because of things being "out of order". The finding was that people didn't "**WATCH**" it. They had it on their TVs, but their eyes were pointed elsewhere. Back then, much of the ratings came from people who turned their TV on and listened to shows while doing something else. Police Squad had so many sight gags and visual plot driving that audiences didn't find the audio-only aspect remotely interesting, so they changed the channel, the ratings weren't there, and we only got 6 episodes.
@pootisengage6672 I might just be distracted (at work rn) but I am not picking up what you're saying. Are you saying he is young, so wasn't there during PS's run?
those police squad jokes made me laugh so damn much "I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith", "We would've come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then", "That didn't work out, so he married a grown woman" I'm not sure I've ever actually watched any spoof movies besides the Monty Python ones, I should give some of these a go
Ironically Shawn of the Dead was highly praised by George Romero, claiming that it was the only film he has seen that got the whole zombies concept right
@@TheZINGularity The guy said "almost every movie". I don't think he meant Disaster Movie or any Seltzerberg movie considering that not even spoof fans like their movies.
My problem with Mel Brooks's humor is his delivery. The material's generally good, but there's way too much mugging and winking, and it ends up feeling like he's sitting next to me, elbowing me in the ribs and saying "Get it?! GET IT?!"
"Father's brother's nephew's Cousin's roomate" so it's your uncle's nephew making it either your cousin's cousin's (which could be you) former roommate or your cousin's former roommate. I had to think hard about that.
@@Simbabweman - I toke some time to think about it too. Basically Lord Helmet is Lone Starr’s cousin’s former roommate. He could have just said that but it wouldn’t have been the same. 😄
Don’t forget about the double modern spoof classics Shawn of the Dead and Hot Fuzz!!! Weird Al was mentioned but not enough credit for being the one and only to master spoof genre in the music video space. And Lonely Island was never mentioned for reinventing the spoof music videos and movies for the social media generation. And finally Get Out by Jordan Peele, one of the most sophisticated modern spoof movies ever made!!!
I remember in the director's voice over they mentioned that the reason Police Squad didn't really work was that it required that the viewer pay attention.
I was going to make my own comment on this - what I think happened is the narrator for this video has misinterpreted the statement, "you had to watch it in order to appreciate it." Narrator thought this meant watch it chronologically. What is actually meant is "In order to appreciate it, you have to WATCH it (or yes, pay attention to it.)
As a Christian, I find life of Brian hilarious (aside from the language and raunchy humor) like you said it’s not mocking Christianity but just telling the audience not to follow things blindly and use plain simple logic, which Jesus and Paul tells us to do so it’s not heretical😂
I think if anyone could make succesful spoof movie in the modern era it would be Dan Harmon. A lot of episodes of Community were well done spoofs of various genres set in a community college.
And Rick and Morty as well, it’s kind of a spoof of the Sci-Fi genre, taking the expectations of a scientist and his grandson adventures in different worlds, but without the stereotypical time travel That being said Rick and Morty may not be a spoof, but seems to be on the fence between spoof and parody
Older spoof movies used a reference as a theme and built an original script from it. Newer spoof movies use references as plot devices and build scripts to include as many as possible.
Wow, the clips from the Friedberg and Seltzer segment made me want to never see a spoof movie ever again. It boggles my mind that anyone could be THAT unaware of how comedy works.
I'd argue they're responsible for 1) killing the genre 2) destroying the motivation to make special comedies with any creativity or effort, resorting to lowest denominations and 3) ruining humor so bad to the point of making the everyman learn the worst of it and questioning movies not categorized as comedies who make great attempts at humor to believe humor is a bad thing despite the intended effectiveness.
That's what happens when corporate suits (like producers) see it as a formula and not how to entertain (like comedy writers). If you think about it, corporate suits are pretty much ruining just about all entertainment.
@@KairuHakubi I only remember liking Spy Hard as a kid (which they wrote), but I'm sure it was more because of Leslie Nielsen and Weird Al than anything else.
This narrator is terminally woke. The all jokes are problematic attitude has destroyed comedy movies, God help us we should laugh at our own human absurdity once in a while.
I would say the film Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping (2015) is also a very good spoof movie but thats probably because the lonely island are just very good at what they do tbh.
Good video. You can always measure a culture by its willingness to laugh at itself. The Brooks - Not Another Teen Movie was peak self referential culture jokage. But now? Now everyone's a wuss who can't take a joke about themselves. Fuck calling scenes racist or transphobic btw, especially if they were made in an earlier, often more civilized and more self aware era, which most were. Either everything is funny and everyone's fair game, or nothing and no one is. This is the biggest problem spoof faces. No one can laugh at themselves. The second biggest problem is that there's nothing new to parody, because everything is a rehash of something else or a desperate hollow Hollywood devoid of talent to actually move the needle. Also, all the desperate rehashes are now sanitized for people who can't laugh at themselves. See how this postmodern era we're living in has no merit? Everything that was once good entertainment is now 'part of the problem.' This cannot stand much longer. Eventually, we'll get a spoof of this entire western cultural movement. Maybe it'll be called Social Justice Wars, or perhaps even Microagressors: Identity War - or maybe even just something like Woke Movie. Either way, I can't wait for someone to just bloody make it already. Oooh boy will that ruffle some overprotected feathers. Oh and Walk Hard was awesome.
Honestly, I watched Meet the Spartans, Epic Movie, Date Movie, and Disaster Movie in one night when I slept over my then-best friend's house as a kid. They obviously weren't masterpieces but I don't remember hating them that much. 🤷🏻♀️ Idk maybe its just bc I was a child but they weren't the worst movies I've ever seen. I didn't love them or hate them, I felt just kinda neutral abt them tbh. The worst movie I've ever seen is Rio. Hands down. Went to see that in the cinema for my 13th bday with my then-boyfriend, my then-best friend, and my cousin. My cousin got so bored she legit changed clothes halfway through right there in the back seats. Me and my then-boyfriend spent the entire time cuddling and I stg I nearly fell asleep on him. None of us were interested in the film at all. I still don't know how Rio got the amount of praise it did. Awful movie, honestly.
@@xotbirdox Río is not bad. I’m guessing you just don’t like animated movies it’s ok. I respect your opinion but you are wrong about Rio. It got praise because it has some good writing and was more entertaining than any family movie we got that year besides the muppets movie with Jason Segal.
The problem, I think, is the context. Everything has already become self-aware that there is nothing left for spoof movies to deconstruct. Movies like The Airport or Top Gun were great source for spoofing, because they took themselves so seriously. We don't have any new big blockbuster films that are so serious.
This is kind of similar to the reason Mad Magazine stopped (or cut way down on) spoofing advertisements. When an entire generation of Mad readers grew up to become an entire generation of ad writers, almost all commercials make fun of themselves at least as well as Mad could.
@@BigAL68xyz Also MAD started putting actual ads in. It was maybe the third issue I got after my parents got me a subscription. I was reading through the ad looking for the subversion and it never came, the disappointment was immense. I now go out of my way to avoid advertising through just about any means.
Idk, you could spoof all these SuperHero movies coming out of the cookie cutter... ...but I think between DeadPool & the movies themselves, that slot has already been filled. & over saturated. It would probably be a(nother) instaflop
Not this generation, though. Count Dankula was fined by his own government for teaching his dog to do the Roman salute, a trick he taught for the express purpose of making fun of Hitler and his regime.
@@CysmaWinheim Jojo Rabbit certainly makes fun of Hitler and the absurdities of Nazi Germany. It does so with class and heart. That's our generation's best Hitler parody. Also, Look Who's Back is another amazing satire of Hitler.
20:07 - I think Eddache actually misinterpreted the quote. You don't have to watch the episodes themselves in chronological order, quote meant that you had to WATCH the episodes and PAY ATTENTION to them SO THAT the viewers can appreciate the gags and jokes. The snippet even says right there that episodes "required rapt attention from the audience". There are more articles about it and even an interview with Leslie Nielsen himself saying how 80's TV audience mainly kept shows running in the background while doing chores, which is why the show's attention-requiring humor didn't work.
Depends on the show. The news, true crime, documentaries are easily listenable. Dramas and comedies depend more on body language/sight gags/visual cues.@@Master_Exploder5000
I can't help it. I love Spaceballs to pieces. It was me and my sister's most played VHS growing up. I guess anything even semi-funny or ridiculous happening is enough to keep kids entertained, but I did see it again a few years ago and still had a blast. It's not a masterpiece like Young Frankenstein or Blazing Saddles, but it is my favorite and will always hold a special place in my heart. It's just too damn quotable.
The Life of Brian never gets old because society and people don't change... the 'what did the romans ever do for us' scene was brought to life when the brits voted themselves out of the EU.
I used to yell and scream and run away like that after i saif good-bye... no wonder people wanted me medicated.. hahah.. I too never connected the home alone aspect...
To be fair about Doofy, given the context of the ending it's much more forgivable. SPOILER WARNING. Doofy is revealed to be the killer and has been faking his stupidity the whole time, having using the stupidity as a cover so nobody would suspect him to be the killer.
Right... and now is controversial because of all what ever this shit culture is called this days, ah yes "political correctness" I'm for joking at all expenses but be smart and creative, other wise you look like you are trying to get cheap shots
@@lordtullus9942 wouldn't go that far, but like everything that people starts to do and becomes significant (profitable to individuals)... well things get out of proportions. I don't know how bad things are in US (jesus in 21st century we talking about human rights in "civilized world"), only I can say your way of life somehow is copied around the globe. For me if you need to declarative (written) bann you know there are some deeper issues
That was the dumbest part of the video tbh. There's like 4 different jokes of Cindy getting beat up while he says how bad the Special Needs character had it.
Indeed. It did strike me as odd in that scene that the normally overly bureaucratic Reg would call out Loretta on a specific technicality, almost like John Cleese was stepping out of character to stand on a soapbox, but I'm pleased it at least got accepted and consistent for the rest of the film
I don't know if it was intended as a joke, but I kinda liked the framing of his right as a _man_ to be a woman. Like, using patriarchal notions of male supremacy against transphobes. Maybe readin' too much into it.
And part of the joke was that Stan wanted to be Loretta because he wanted to be able to conceive and bear a baby himself. And I always interpreted Johns reaction to be more about that bit than the normal gender swapping argument. But, ever the beurocrats, they adopt the stance that the impossibility of Stan bearing a child himself in no way actually contradicts his right to want it. One should be able to want something even if it is impossible to get. Even if it sounds silly on the surface. This makes me love the humor in Monty Python. Many layers, and beneath most of the jokes are sound arguments poking holes at accepted beliefs. And it makes me despise lazy humor. The Seltzer and Friedman kind that just goes "HAHAH YOU KNOW THIS THING!"
Came here to talk about it! Its a good thing Eddache aknowledges this because when he sets up that scene side by side with actual gross, horrible transfobic depictions it makes it stand out even more as different from those.
@@AKImeru Its by far the least extreme example especially when compared to the others but I wanted to include it as one from across the history of spoof movies. It remains an uncomfortable blip in an otherwise brilliant movie.
20:09 It’s not “the viewer had to watch it in order // to appreciate it” it’s “the viewer had to watch it // in order to appreciate it.” May have just been a brain fart, but the very next sentence explains it. The jokes were just flying left and right and it wasn’t the kind of show where you could do stuff with it on. To quote the very next sentence after your highlighted quote, “this wasn’t the type of show where you could read the newspaper while it was on..”.
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Which, as the snippet also mentions, is such an incredibly stupid reason, ESPECIALLY when you consider it's actually a great reason to keep it on because having to pay attention would suggest people less likely to skip ads (or they'd risk missing the show continuing).
I’m going to choose to believe the trigger warnings before each segment is a spoof of the idiotic sensitivity of social justice culture. How else would someone as awesome as Larry Buddy JR have anything to do with this video, right? Right? Riiiiiiiiight?
@@lentlemenproductions770 It’s not really this one guy doing it on this one video that irks me. It’s the entire culture of it. It’s annoying af, and is often enforced by some seriously angry bitter hypocrites. Just going off experience. The ideology pushing these things is not one I support or want to take over more. Even children aren’t this soft and weak, treating adults this way is not only pathetic, but damaging.
@@MrThankman360 Well, I can't attest to your personal experience. I would say that, in terms of people being 'weak', that is certainly one way of saying "Has has a traumatic experience they would rather not relive on their relaxing Saturday afternoon.". And even if someone CAN watch something - maybe they just don't want to, and that's OK. I won't necessarily argue that some people out there nowadays do seem quite fragile, but I don't know those people, I don't know their stories.
@@lentlemenproductions770 What traumatic experiences will you be discussing with your therapist as the result of watching some TH-camr talk about the evolution of a subgenre of comedy movies for an hour? How many war veterans have been diagnosed with PTSD since the year 1900 and how many war films have been made with a trigger warning for them? The trigger warnings for fragile, self-absorbed, coddled adult children on twitter, tumblr, and reddit are self-manufactured for seeking attention, sympathy, and projection of virtue through perpetual victimhood.
So I think the issue with current spoofs is the issue that the genre parodies lack the tone setup. The most successful spoofs set up the tone, visual style, tropes and aethetic of what they parody. Then subvert the expectations. Shrek, airplane, blazing saddles, hotshots, young Frankenstein, spaceballs, robin hood men in tights ect all set up the visual style, tone and atmosphere of what they parody. When you gave the chestburster scene in spaceballs, you go from a fairly light comedy to suddenly horror when the chestburster erupts to suddenly comedy once more when he dances himself away. The bad comedies dont do this simply putting the character in regardless of genre or tone and not saying anything about them other than "haha they say the fuck word".
I think that's part of it but I also think that it's the failure to really follow through on having a plot and remaining faithful to the plot and story even though you are doing a send-up.
@@Lendorien yeah I can agree to that. A lot of spoofs can get really distracted and forget about the plot leading to scenes that aren't funny and dont go anywhere only to go to another tangent Avenue.
@@fernie-fernandez that's exactly the thing that killed spoof films... what do you mean? Because like a spoof is supposed to be comedic right, so like dark edgy spoofs fall into the pit of family guy "you cant say that" style comedy, which often falls flat because it can only go so far without just being outright transphobia/homophobia/racism/ablism ect. At a point that edgy comedy stops being a joke and just becomes insulting the individual, implying that you the viewer should be mocked for things you cant control Like race, sexuality, gender, disability or mental health, weight ect now if you mean to take a light genre IE superheroes, romantic comedies, kids sports films ect more serious or dark well them that's not really spoof either its pastiche or a dark parody.
@@NovastarDoughnut Well, it's not about using comedy for laughs or cringe that I would use, it's more on the lines of "Should I even laugh" when a brutal-honest or mean-spirited quote was said...
A recent spoof that didn't get nearly enough love that you missed (or maybe you don't consider it a spoof) is "Popstar Never Stop, Never Stopping", which is spoofing the celeb musician documentaries and I feel is incredibly clever and inventive both in its songs thanks to Lonely Island, but also in its non-musical humor, containing an assortment of visual, auditory, and dialogue gags.
Personally, I blame "two of the six writers who worked on Scary Movie." You know the ones. They oversaturated the market with *bad* spoof movies, so everyone got tired of them.
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist is one of the most original spoof movies as it used original film footage and dubbed new audio over and CGId the main character in. Genuinely hilarious
@@devforfun5618 I doubt any money-hungry company these days wants to make a movie that China could potentially see as making fun of them or anything of the sort. It's the sad reality that everyone is bending over to them.
Bro you care way too much about jokes made decades ago. They aged just fine. Had a hard time taking you seriously at all whenever a joke hurt your feelings.
There's just a problem with comedy movies in general. When was the last truly great comedy movie to come out? I read an article that people are no longer interested in films that are purely comedies because films like Avengers as an example have enough laughs in them that people get their fix from that. If comedy movies are on the decline, spoofs have very little chance of making a comeback.
The last great comedy that I think was made was 'Clerks 2'. I've heard interviews with directors of earlier comedies (the guys that did Joker and Hangover for example) and they simply said with todays PC culture, it's simply impossible to make a decent comedy. To many people are both over sensitive and command to much power that studios are to terrified to take the risk of comedies as there is simply to much to lose.
@@kingcosworth2643 I remember that interview. However, Todd Phillips said that right before the highly successful JOJO RABBIT came out. And a year later, BORAT 2 was just as well received. So... No, the comedy genre is still doing well.
Sometimes the fall of comedy films even in Italy correlate with the horrendously worsening qualities of many godawful Cine Panettoni films. In other words, many of the world’s worst Italian films are largely set in Christmas or are about the holiday itself as usual.
27:25 that scene (which follows) is legend: Charlie Sheen on that boat, referring to his own father's (Martin Sheen) role in "Apocalypse Now" (being on that patrol boat), while writing a letter to this grandma with the same words as he self did in his role as Chris in "Platoon".
I think you missed an important factor in Scary Movie 1 when it came too Doofy, at the end of the movie they reveal that he isn't disabled at all and it was just an act. like thats not bad representation, thats someone pretending to be something else to get away with murder lol.
"Oh they were just faking a disability for X selfish reason" isn't actually less ablest (Literally what IRL weirdos like Hotep king Umar Johnson say about the 800 fucktillion invisible disabilities I have, ie ADHD, autism, PTSD, depression, being disabled and trans and living in the suburbs with no driver's license), overdone (The Fred TV show did that plot line with Kevin faking a broken leg so Fred has to look after him), uncreative (""), or cringeworthy (My head wants my spine to rip itself out of my ribcage and scapula and slither away just to avoid thinking about that).
eh, see the thing with spoofs is that the absurdism of their storyworld dictates that - scene to scene - there is no continuity of logic. You can get your head cut off one scene, and walk back in frame unhurt later with no explanation needed (or wanted, really). So given that, Doofy is disabled for real until he isn't, and when it's revealed he's the secret mastermind it has zero retroactive bearing on his character. Spoofs resist canon.
It was a Parody of The Usual Suspects where, Spoiler Alert, Kevin Spacey's Character feigns disability the whole movie then the last scene is him walking out of the Police Station and ditching his Disabled Persona more with every step until he's walking like a cool crime lord.
i like this movie but i dont like the part when they make fun of (insert group) or i like this movie and like it when they dont make jokes about (insert group) ......
@@absolutemattlad2701 in english speaking societies one’s job is often conflated for ones identity: who are you? “I’m a locksmith” Locksmiths are wizards who can disregard ordinary barriers like locked doors: how did you get in here? “I’m a locksmith”
there was nothing wrong with doofy or date movies sarah hanagen, Doofy was a villain who was the mastermind and not disabled and his name was a play on words for the name in scream as well as how screams cop was semi incompetant, , and EITHER WAY, dude you are Everything Wrong with PC and what killed comedy today, When rewatching madtv and other devil may care comedies from that era, I realized OMG we never get these jokes anymore, they can be done right, Yes overwight jokes, they still make short jokes etc. its all communities or no community and um... free speech? Jokes are jokes, Stereotypes are completly allowed for white people haha and as a latino GO AHEAD MAKE FUN OF US, every group is on the table because it can be done in a way with LASTING comedy value, To this day, the comedians going for it have the biggest staying power, we are hungry for true comedy , its a small minority in comparison who actually get upset, and collecively scary movie fans agree ONE was better than 2 But I i did love two,Scary movie was so unique in its approach to parodies, it could be a stand alone movie because it felt like its own movie , what you didn't like about scary movies plot and "parody of a parody" was what i LOVED about it, Scream was not a true parody but a meta analysis movie, scary movie did spoofs proud. I did not expect though that a review on these movies would have some REDICULOUS PC problems,Like... do you know what movies you are reviewing... ? Gotta agree with you on disaster movie ,epic movie, etc. those guys were TERRIBLE AT IT! I hated that they branded them as " 2 of the six writers of scary movie " its what tricked me to watch as a teen.
You got a bit off towards the end there, yeah the movies were bad but your reasons for not liking them felt like pandering to the woke mob lol, Probably not but that all you see on youtube 80% of the time these day.
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Mel brooks’ has so many good spoofs. High anxiety, blazing saddles, silent movie, history of the world part 1… I kinda see spaceballs as his low point He’s got a badass personal story as well
I love the random realization people in spoof movies have on their face when they hear something idiotic and outrageous, usually coming from themselves or someone else. For example, in Scary Movie 3 when Brenda says "The TV is leaking" and takes a second to really think about what she just said.
I love how in a lot of spoofs the characters alternate between being the last sane person on the room and being the weirdest or craziest one depending on the moment. Having all characters make fools of themselves while still being coherent in their characterization is a sign of good writing
I think Black Dynamite is one of the best parody movies out there and most definitely should have got a mention but I would heavily recommend it if you haven’t watched it!
Police Squad: They didn't mean you had to watch the shows "in order" as in chronological order. They meant you had to "watch" the shows, actually pay attention to the show, to get the gags, understand and appreciate it. It was intelligent spoof. And they realized that people watch TV without really watching it. A rather scathing commentary on society, that is proven true.
I mention this quite often since I heard Leslie talk about it. Because this is the disaster that Netflix and Amazon is in, they try do do movie things to an audience that isn't paying attention. A very basic difference between the two mediums that reviewers simply don't understand.
Absolutely right, except that I disagree about scathing A lot of people would have the TV on as background noise while they did the housework, or their hobbies. They got used to being able to follow the plot and the jokes just by listening, and they didn't have their eyes glued to the screen the whole time because they were doing other things at the same time. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing I don't think it was about the fact that you had to be smart to get the jokes. More about the fact that you literally had to be looking at the screen to get all the sight gags
The doofy part in scary movie seemed cruel but when you realize in the end that he was the mastermind just putting on a show it become somewhat forgivable.
I mean if someone somehow hasn't seen "The Usual Suspects" then they'd probably not understand the joke of doofy, and would probably just see it as cruel. But yeah you right
didnt fit with his modern identity politics so hes actually just a sick person, disability jokes are off limits no matter the context but white racial jokes are freegame.
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Eddache Detroit is a wasteland. You need to know it is BAD. So they where ahead of their time
The missing ingredient is sincerity. The past spoofs have a clear feeling of sincerity.
Charlie Chaplin had something to say in "The Great Dictator", Mel Brooks had a clear love of the movies he parodied in "Young Frankenstein" and "Spaceballs." He had something to say about the western-genre in "Blazing Saddles."
Even the older-spoofs that were purely for the jokes kept them going at a machine-gun pace. The wordplay-jokes in "Airplane!" were many but were short and sweet.
I love Blazing Saddles so much. I can't imagine it would have been a better film if Brooks got his original intended casting of Richard Pryor as Bart and John Wayne as the Waco Kid, the screen chemistry between Cleavon Little and Gene Wilder was just too perfect.
Not just sincerity, but *considered* sincerity. The writers have to be intelligent and have some deep knowledge about what they're poking fun at.
I could see nowadays spoofs being about pressing onto you that very specific political narrative that has become oh so common nowadays in literally everything that is produced :D
High anxiety. The crown jewel of spoof
@@KamiNoBaka1 Blazing Saddles is one of my TOP favorites of all time. (It wont be appropriate now cause of some of the scenes. which is sad.) its a cult classic along with History of the World part one. the roman scene had me in stiches. Same with Young Young Frankenstein. "Hes my BOYFRIEND". Cloris Leachman and Marty Feldman were comedy gold!!we cant forget Gene Wilder and Peter Boy;e as well. I even add Monty Python and Flying Circus & the all the Monty Python Films, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Airplane, Naked Gun, Reservoir Dogs (When Tom Sizemore cuts the cops ear off and starts talking into like its function). Like someone else mention the Great Dictor with Charlie Chaplin. (his speech send chills down my spine. there is some truth in what he says)
Say what you will about Scary Movie 3, the part where the cops hat just slowly gets bigger and bigger throughout the scene is hilarious.
"Tom, I'm gonna need a ride home"
After he just pinged the guys wife against a tree with his truck😂
3 is my favourite of the series.
Isn't that the one where they hear a disturbance and go out with shovels, then when they see something one of them racks the shovel like a shotgun, but it actually ejects a shell?
@@weirdowithacello3481 that's the one!
Isn't 3 the one we're the Wayans didn't write/direct. 😂
“Here’s Detroit”
“And here’s Detroit after the attack”
Is one of my favourite jokes ever. So simple and delivered perfectly :’)
@@BetweenTheLyons why no rickroll ?
I love the “we’re outta coffee” joke from airplane 2
@@austinh7110 Speaking of it:
"I like my coffee black like my men" really got me ngl
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Now its ohio
The "Who are you and how did you get in here?" - "I'm a locksmith. And I'm a locksmith." might just be my all-time favorite tv/movie gag.
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Life of Brian's best joke is the part where he is speaking to the crowd from the balcony.
B: "You're all individuals."
C: "We're all individuals. "
B: "You're all unique."
C: "We're all unique."
B: "You're all different."
C: "We're all different."
A single individual in the back: "I'm not."
OH MY GOD THATS SO GOOD, I haven’t even seen the movie fully but I will always respond to “fuck off” with “how shall I fuck off sir”
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That scene when of think of it. It's like today's society.
It just has the remittance of how everyone today follows this ideology of we are special. And the few that disagree is the outsider.
Late night comedy is a perfect example.
Which, funny enough, makes the person saying "i'm not" unique and different.
Top Shelf Joke.
@@XXXPPMXXX how old are you?
‘What’s so funny about Spoofus Movius?’ ‘Well it’s a joke film sir’
"I saw a vewwy gweat film in Wome called Spoofus Movius"
@@tickaten why are you laughing? Is it because I said "spoofus movius?"
@@Ixarus6713 it has a sequel you know. It’s called Spoofus TV-showus
@@Ixarus6713 he has a wife you know. Her name is Paro... Parody.
@@Vlog-gu7wi *snickering*
Fun fact: a lot of the budget for life of Brian came from George Harrison of the Beatles, who just wanted to see the movie get made
It's amazing how Pasion of the Christ was spoofed before Mel Gibson even got around to writing it.
The "other 2" beatles actually doing fun stuff and doing good is nice to hear
@@smo-king6504Ringo produced and starred in Carry, a Terry Southern update to Candide, a Voltaire satire. Terry Southern wrote the book and script for Dr Strangelove with Peter Sellers in 3 roles. Ringo backed Magic Christian, too.
I just posted the same thing and scrolled down to see your post. Ringo produced and starred in Carry, a Terry Southern update to Candide, a Voltaire satire. Terry Southern wrote the book and script for Dr Strangelove with Peter Sellers in 3 roles. Ringo backed Magic Christian, too.
That's why he's the best beatle
Weird: The Al Yankovic Story feels like it's from an alternate universe where Seltzerburg didn't ruin spoof movies for everybody
Agreed!!
“The black and full of cream” joke from Airplane Mode doesn’t even work because it can’t be a black coffee if it’s full of cream
EDIT: somehow people are still responding to my 2 year old comment explaining to me that the joke is about cum. i know what cum is and i understand the joke is about creampies. the problem with the joke is that it is meant to be a double entendre, yet only works as a cum joke, with the coffee layer of the joke not having any logic behind it
Omfg you're so right, haha!
False the funny vine man can't be wrong
The joke is going over your head then i think.
@@LazurizSolari no, we understand that he's talking about women but then he can't compare them to his coffee because the coffee he describes makes no sense
@@IfIHadMyTimeAgain Exactly. Using the joke's logic, every cup of coffee is black _before_ cream/sugar/whatever is added, rendering the comparison useless. Maybe "black with a drop of cream at the end" would've worked.
The real reason Merchandising was a joke in Spaceballs was because the only rule George Lucas set for Brookes was that no toys or merchandise could be sold as it would be too easily confused for Star Wars merch.
This!
His lazy dismissal of declining Hollywood writing standards via jumping to a theory of bigotry and sexism being why the genre is hurting should tell you he isn't likely to do much research... Like yeah some jokes didn't age well no shit, that's not the issue as a whole and that's what he puts a pin on at the end as the reason for the decline not maybe the instinct to stay relevant in the internet age when memes can become phenomenons and die I'm the same 72hr cycle all while being written on the cheap by hacks or by people some studio executive thinks the kids like.
@@AlphaBushido Why did you write that here as a response to another comment instead of as a normal comment I'm so confused
@@AlphaBushido he literally does comment on the issue of memes and the humor cycle?? twice?
@@AlphaBushido He brought up the bigotry thing once mate
My Dad used to tell me a lot that the merchandise jokes in Spaceballs were rooted from the fact that George Lucas was completely fine with Mel Brooks making it, his only condition was that the movie could produce *zero* merch.
From what I've seen and heard, and after looking it up for myself... IMO this is a fact
@@shyguysoupgmosincluded8908 so is it a fact or an opinion lol
But it’s also a commentary of how crazy George Lucas had became about the commercialization of Star Wars. I mean he changed aspects of the return just to sell toys. Ewoks we’re supposed to be Wookiee’s but George didn’t think Wookiee’s would see toys so he made them tiny.
That is correct.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd heard another part of the deal, aside from just being cool with it legally, was that his studio actually helped with the effects in Spaceballs
I have to drop in an UM ACTUALLY about the Police Squad TV show: it wasn't cancelled because it had to be watched "chronologically", but because it had to be watched AT ALL. A large portion of the audience would leave the show on in the background and only half pay attention to it; thus, because the dialogue was delivered completely deadpan, most of the audience didn't even realize they were watching a comedy!
Fun fact: The actor portraying Saddam Hussein actually has a lisp.
Wasn't he the voice actor for an animated character? Sylvester the cat?? Definitely recognizable and that scene just cracked me up
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"Life of Brian is about a man whose life runs parallel to that of jesus christ's. Like the great dictator..."
You fucking had me for a second there
I think TH-cam killed the spoof movies. The disconnected self aware humor was perfect for short videos. Channels like Smosh, How It Should Have Ended or most recently Pitch Meeting could react to trends and new movies much quicker. The rise of meme culture also meant that the most obvious jokes were already made and shared by millions before someone could even begin to write a screenplay. The parodies that did survive were more story and character driven with occasional self-awareness, like What We Do In the Shadows or American Vandal.
I don't disagree, but it's also worth noting that most modern blockbusters *also* include the sorts of jokes spoof movies used to have - jokes about the popular perception of the characters in the movie, meta-jokes about the plot not being very good, calling some character by an insulting nickname in a very meta way (like the Squidward" line in Avengers), awkward moments where the movie slows everything down to comment on itself... like where's the room for a spoof movie of Thor: Love and Thunder? It's already a spoof of itself.
Movies like Airplane and Naked Gun, their humor relied pretty minimally on the references they were making fun of. Those movies' comedy holds up to this day, even if someone doesn't have a single clue about any of their pop culture references
really i think metahumor is what killed it, when it was used for gags or commentary it was good, but the daredevil style of humor done in the "from the producers of scary movie" fashion is what really did it in. its all just "hey, you like this right? isn't it dumb? well we can make it dumber"
Actually I think it was the scary movie series and the spoofs they did later. The first two movies were good and they were mostly spoofing specific things about the genre and scream but after the third it was just more and more random comedy without making fun of anything specific. For example think about the scene in the first one where the girl is trying to escape and comes to the death and safety signs and then falls into the chalk outline of her body. Now compare that to scary movie 3. Just about any part of it.
@@olstar18 i actually loved scary movie 3 and 4...and I'm saying that as an Airplane and Naked Gun fan. Yeah, the genre is spoofs bit a great one doesn't rely on the references. I grew up loving Naked Gun despite having no clue what they were referring to for most of it.
It's probably already been pointed out(probably multiples times), but one of the later good spoof movies is Tucker & Dale vs Evil, albeit it's more on the Scream end of the spectrum.
Like many of the better ones, the characters are played more straight, they're not all a bunch of a-holes, and it has an actual story.
My view: Early spoofs succeeded at the box office, so Hollywood made more of them, whether or not they had good writers or premises - so they started getting dumber, and failed at the box office, so Hollywood made fewer of them. They'll come back. This is definitely a greed-driven cycle.
That is EXACTLY what happened. If something works churn them out with quantity over quality until they are completely watered down and reductive.
I think he made a good point about the internet's impact on it though. There's so many creative people out there able to parody with lower and lower budgets as technology gets cheaper and more people are willing to work for exposure
I dream of writing the next great spoof.
Defining what IS a spoof and what ISN'T a spoof is like trying to say exactly what each generation is by birth year without caring about location, lifestyle, and class setting. Who is this guy that we decide he's an authority? Noting against him, I'm honestly only upset that he's cool with pedophiles but not with homophobes and sexists against women. Seems like this video was VERY controlled by what he thinks the algorithm wants.
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42:00 Fun Fact: Weird Al held that note until his head actually exploded. The man is a legend who gave everything for his music and he will be missed.
Why tf did you have to go and scare me like that? He's not dead
@@asparagusrl2909 it was a joke
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Lol I know, i thought acting surprised would be funny
@@asparagusrl2909 oh
@@krakennvlyat
Hehehe I'm not from black and white times when people were scared of film
They went from witty commentary to "hey, remember this from the movie you already saw, here it is again! Aren't we hilarious?" Then it died.
Well, what you’re thinking is “remember this, HUH” is more of “invasive” and “apathetic about writing stories”.
It's actually worse, the references Friedberg & Seltzer made were to the trailers of movies that hadn't even come out.
You can pinpoint the exact moment it died - the moment Borat appears in Epic Movie repeating lines from the original Borat film. There's no joke, he's just there for you to go "Oh, that's Borat".
Basically what modern movie franchises do unironically.
Men in Tights is probably my all time favourite spoof movie. One that is criminally overlooked is The Fearless Vampire Killers. Watched that one a ton as a kid. Great spoof of the vampire concept without invoking/relying on Dracula. Wayne's World is basically a spoof of itself, the SNL skit, and 80s-90s metal fandom. One of the better modern day spoof movies (although it's pretty old now), is Tropic Thunder.
It seems like the last good spoof movies were in the late 00s with Tropic Thunder and Black Dynamite
@@Scud422i would add pop stars
Man I miss Leslie Nielsen. I'm from Spain, and he appeared in a cameo in our own spoof movie "Spanish Movie". I love this genre
I'm brazilian, and I remember watching this movie. It was translated as "Todo Mundo Hispânico", a pun with "Todo Mundo em Pânico", the brazilian title for Scary Movie. I still consider this title one of the cleverest translations of a title I ever seen.
@@DanideLouro É um bom título 😆
I honestly love every Leslie Nielsen spoof movie. They're always absolutely hilarious and absurd! I love so many forms of comedy, including stupid slapstick
You've probably never heard of it, but one of his last spoof movies was Men With Brooms, a Canadian sports spoof. Check it out!
What killed spoofs?
Short answer: cash grabbing.
Long answer: as Mel Brooks said, "You've got to love and respect the material you're spoofing." That's why his movies worked and are still watchable today (and, yes, could also be made today. I'm sick of hearing they couldnt). The morons that came up with Meet the Spartans and Date Movie only saw easy money. They didn't appreciate the effort it takes to make a smart spoof like Austin Powers or Blazing Saddles because they don't care about the source material.
Games had suffered for similar reasons. But with people who love them getting into the correct positions, it allows for films to actually work.
A good example available here on TH-cam is the Dragon Ball Z Abridged series that remixes, recuts, and redubs DBZ. It's pretty funny to watch, but it's notable how many of thematic beats of Toriyama's original work are explicitly referenced. It could only be made by people who were poking fun at something they deeply enjoyed.
Edit : I think that's just a core conflict within art in general. To make things like cinema, you need a lot of money, it's a business endeavor that might incidentally create artistic output. The art and business interests are not always opposed to each other, but they're certainly aren't always aligned either.
@@Bustermachine holy musical b@tman is a lot the same. It's a smaller production, made by fans here on youtube, and the absurdity mixed with the obvious love of the characters makes it so much more funny than some other more recent spoofs
@@Bustermachine from all the abridged parodies like, code ment, death note abridged, ksihinpain, grimmjack, the schmuck squad, myotasterisretarded etc. you pick the one unfunny one. YOu are the problem with spoof movies.
@@JohnJohnson-zu5vj you're calling DBZA not funny??
Austin Powers is unironically the best spoof trilogy of Spy movies
*the best trilogy
That's fairly specific. Can you think of any other trilogy of spy spoofs?
@@Nyrkvennasogur Johnny English. Like I love Rowan Atkinson, but they didn’t exactly set the world on fire.
@@Nyrkvennasogur OSS 117. The first two are great. The trailer for the third one didn't look very good, but I haven't seen it.
OSS 117 would challenge that crown.
I really liked Walk Hard. It's humor wasn't really derivative of many previous spoof flicks, possibly because spoofing the dramatic biopic (mainly Walk The Line) was a novel idea at the time. Plus it delivers laughs w/out constantly referencing or spoofing other movies, but rather the culture surrounding Rock & the music industry during that period. I saw it as a breath of fresh air.
Very underappreciated film!
Me too. It's subtle and yet fun, especially since it's drawing musical influences on mid 20th century rock music and its industry/culture.
It's a very underrated film that actually has a lot to say about the dramatics of rock stars and the industry all told through the lens of one man's inflated ego. I particularly love Dewey's obsession with helping little people and the part where he invents punk .
Walk Hard was outstanding!!!!!
@@BadWebDiverthank you for not saying underrated.
A Naked Gun remake better be a spoof movie about how studios keep doing remakes. If it's an unironic remake and that's it, I'll just be sad.
Nah that sounds too original of an idea for movie execs to okay.
Wouldn't that be basically 21 Jump Street?
That would be awesome if donne well!
I have a similar idea for a Superhero Movie sequel (being a lot less of a classic than The Naked Gun, it would have greater chances ofa remake being good). The first one took most of its plot from Spider-Man, so it would be ideal for a sequel to lampoon how we had two Spider-Man reboots since then.
I envision a scene where the movie "stops" as some excecutives bring character from all sorts of other franchises on set because the studio was bought by Disney and the film is part of a cinematic universe now, and the main character is confused and anoyed the whole time (in classic spoof fashion, he is still the character instead of reverting into the actor playing him but he's also aware of the fact he is a fictional character in a movie). And also, to lampoon all those internet rumors of Tobey McGuire appearing in a Multiverse centric Spider-man sequel, a running gag throughout the film would be teasing or implying an imcoming cameo of the actor from the first movie that never gets to happen.
Maybe that's what the genre need to revitalize itself, to mock not only the thropes and clichés but also the movie-making process and how a lot of their decisions now come more form a corporate perspective than an artistic one
@@fbritannia it would be 21 Jump Street but with cartoon logic
@@Mario_Angel_Medina Are you sure You don't wanna write your own script? Cause all of your ideas sound great! Like that would actually be really entertaining and clever if done right.
I love the deadpan stuff that Leslie Nielsen did. That man was a comedy genius.
Honestly, needs more praise
Wrongfully Accused is one of the best parody and next Nielsen movies ever.
Hell yeah
Interestingly enough Leslie Nielsen started as a serious actor.
You should see him on Forbidden Planet.
Idk why but the 2 gags that really made me laugh for w/e reason were the "He was married with a child, that didnt work so he married an adult" and the parachuting one "Geronimo, Geronimo....Me..."
The "He was married with a child" gag made me laugh a lot too. I should watch Police Squad again
The "We would have come earlier, but he wasn't dead then" joke is my favourite in all of _Police Squad/ Naked Gun."_
The one that had me crack up was the two sheens on their resprective patrol boats, but only because I remember the set up for that and it's genuinely great.
OH THAT'S WHAT HE SAID?! OMG I LOVE THAT JOKE NOW!
The “I loved you in Wall Street.” gag kills me every time.
I've always thought of "The Princess Bride" as a sort of spoof movie, because it just gives me that sort of feeling/vibe, just without all the unneeded pop culture references
It totally was a spoof movie. Like you said, it didn't have the pop culture references, but it didn't take itself too seriously and at the same time, it was authentic in the way they presented it.
Rodents of unusual size is still probably my favorite movie bit of all time
@settingittowumbo1953 the ROUS bit isn't even the movies strongest jokes, because there's definitely so many quotable moments and fun parts of the movie, but yet the ROUS stick out anyways
I view it as a light parody/homage of the fantasy genre, but not necessarily a spoof.
@@AlkisenSuper fair
What happened to spoof movies is what happens when you forget to include actual jokes in your comedy movie and live by the principle that random equals funny.
I don't agree, they weren't random. But they used things like puns, word play and slap stick that usually go by an eventually predictable formula
@@tomlxyz That… Was my point
What happens when everyone gets sensitive and cries because they're pathetic little weirdos.
@@lidmc796 You get 2022 politics
@@lidmc796 I think earlier spoofs were just funnier because they chose one thing, analyzed, and were clever. At a certain point they started doing 500 shallow and flaccid things in a single film that were less thought out. It transformed from quantity over quality of jokes.
The SpaceBalls merchandising gag was an inside joke between Brooks and Lucas because Lucas told him he could spoof anything he wanted to about Star Wars but couldn't do any merchandising
Apparently the merchandise joke inspired Elon musk to build a fake toy flamethrower
@@johnbuck4395 Spaceballs the Flamethrower! Kid's love this one.
I hope someone else mentioned this:
He *completely* misunderstood the quote about the failure of Police Squad -- the one he put on screen. It's worth being pedantic about because it is so Interesting.
Police Squad didn't fail because of things being "out of order". The finding was that people didn't "**WATCH**" it. They had it on their TVs, but their eyes were pointed elsewhere. Back then, much of the ratings came from people who turned their TV on and listened to shows while doing something else. Police Squad had so many sight gags and visual plot driving that audiences didn't find the audio-only aspect remotely interesting, so they changed the channel, the ratings weren't there, and we only got 6 episodes.
Thats...that's just radio! Why go through the trouble of getting a television! I am really annoyed by this.
This guy probably has less than 20 years. So your opinión is invalid
@pootisengage6672 I might just be distracted (at work rn) but I am not picking up what you're saying.
Are you saying he is young, so wasn't there during PS's run?
those police squad jokes made me laugh so damn much
"I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith", "We would've come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then", "That didn't work out, so he married a grown woman"
I'm not sure I've ever actually watched any spoof movies besides the Monty Python ones, I should give some of these a go
How about: Cigarette? Yes,i know!
"We would have come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead yet."
Airplane is a must see!
Airplane, Spaceballs, and Robin Hood: Men in Tights are my go-to spoof movies.
@@mrsocko316 you should try Top Secret!
Ironically Shawn of the Dead was highly praised by George Romero, claiming that it was the only film he has seen that got the whole zombies concept right
ok
Which it did
Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg are geniuses. It also helps that they are HUGE movie fans and they have so much fun making movies together.
It also inspired him to make Land of the Dead.
Edgar Wright is right.
Almost every movie here is a damn masterpiece. I am not caffeinated enough to nitpick details, but Mel and Leslie are national heros.
"Dracula: Dead and Loving It" isn't Mel Brooks's best, but it's enjoyable and very much worth it to see him and Leslie Nielsen together.
Cant say i agree with calling "Disaster Movie" a masterpiece.
@@TheZINGularity The guy said "almost every movie". I don't think he meant Disaster Movie or any Seltzerberg movie considering that not even spoof fans like their movies.
My problem with Mel Brooks's humor is his delivery. The material's generally good, but there's way too much mugging and winking, and it ends up feeling like he's sitting next to me, elbowing me in the ribs and saying "Get it?! GET IT?!"
"I Am Your Father's Brother's Nephew's Cousin's Former Roommate" -Lord Helmet
(Contemplative pause)
“What does that make us?”
“Nothing. Which is what you are about to become.”
Dark helmet
"Father's brother's nephew's Cousin's roomate" so it's your uncle's nephew making it either your cousin's cousin's (which could be you) former roommate or your cousin's former roommate.
I had to think hard about that.
@@Simbabweman - I toke some time to think about it too. Basically Lord Helmet is Lone Starr’s cousin’s former roommate. He could have just said that but it wouldn’t have been the same. 😄
@@lonestarr1843 ikr even reading my comment confused me again haha
Just realised the names on the right arent the editors. Was wondering why eddy hired racism.
Nice pfp
Imma hire transphobia to edit my vids
Hey man, just because Racism is only skilled in CGI and model rigging doesn’t mean he can’t work as an editor
@one one I heard homophobia is great at graphic design
dude actually put that shit there as if anybody cares, what a snowflake 😂
"You're all individuals!"
*YES, WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS*
"No, I'm not"
Maybe my favourite joke of all time.
Mine too.
how bad is it that I know it is life of Brian.
@@gerarduspoppel2831 why should that be bad
@@marty6779 .it does prove that I'm a nerd. but also that I have good taste in movies.
@@gerarduspoppel2831 My guy, being a nerd isn't a bad thing. And yes, you have good taste in movies.
Don’t forget about the double modern spoof classics Shawn of the Dead and Hot Fuzz!!! Weird Al was mentioned but not enough credit for being the one and only to master spoof genre in the music video space. And Lonely Island was never mentioned for reinventing the spoof music videos and movies for the social media generation. And finally Get Out by Jordan Peele, one of the most sophisticated modern spoof movies ever made!!!
“Keep Calm and… Monty Python”
The Monty Python crew would be proud of that joke
❤️❤️❤️
I remember in the director's voice over they mentioned that the reason Police Squad didn't really work was that it required that the viewer pay attention.
Of course the reason that it does work is that it's good enough to make viewers pay attention. Just not enough of them at the time.
I'll take Arrested Development for $800, Alex.
I was going to make my own comment on this - what I think happened is the narrator for this video has misinterpreted the statement, "you had to watch it in order to appreciate it." Narrator thought this meant watch it chronologically. What is actually meant is "In order to appreciate it, you have to WATCH it (or yes, pay attention to it.)
Only the legends will remember “Kung Pow”...
"Taco Bell, Taco Bell, product placement Taco Bell..."
@kaza12345678 I don't think Adam Sandler was in that movie.
Tiger... Tiger,tiger,tiger 🐯
Birdy... Bird! Birdy birdy! 🐦
Hmmmmmm..... OKAY
One of my favorites
As a Christian, I find life of Brian hilarious (aside from the language and raunchy humor) like you said it’s not mocking Christianity but just telling the audience not to follow things blindly and use plain simple logic, which Jesus and Paul tells us to do so it’s not heretical😂
I think if anyone could make succesful spoof movie in the modern era it would be Dan Harmon. A lot of episodes of Community were well done spoofs of various genres set in a community college.
And Rick and Morty as well, it’s kind of a spoof of the Sci-Fi genre, taking the expectations of a scientist and his grandson adventures in different worlds, but without the stereotypical time travel
That being said Rick and Morty may not be a spoof, but seems to be on the fence between spoof and parody
I wouldn’t really classify Community as a spoof, Community is more of an homage,
And Dan Harmon has written for films too. Monster House surprisingly too
@@anthonyrodriguez4905 Dan Harmon is responsible for my childhood truama?
@@Foxy02016 trueee!!!
Holy shit. A 58 minute long Eddache video. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
Just realised it was 58 mins lol
@@STYLIX_ I’m not just agreeing with you just to agree with you but I didn’t either
Exactly
“I just wanna tell you good luck, we’re all counting on you” What a great tribute and way to end the video haha.
"Surely you can't be serious?"
"I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."
I say that every time someone leaves.. especially when they go to the bathroom.
The less it fits the situation, the better.
@@chaosmastermind I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.
Your definition of "aged well" is solely dependent on whether it'll upset 2020's trans people?
huh.
Older spoof movies used a reference as a theme and built an original script from it.
Newer spoof movies use references as plot devices and build scripts to include as many as possible.
Wow, the clips from the Friedberg and Seltzer segment made me want to never see a spoof movie ever again. It boggles my mind that anyone could be THAT unaware of how comedy works.
I'd argue they're responsible for 1) killing the genre 2) destroying the motivation to make special comedies with any creativity or effort, resorting to lowest denominations and 3) ruining humor so bad to the point of making the everyman learn the worst of it and questioning movies not categorized as comedies who make great attempts at humor to believe humor is a bad thing despite the intended effectiveness.
That's what happens when corporate suits (like producers) see it as a formula and not how to entertain (like comedy writers). If you think about it, corporate suits are pretty much ruining just about all entertainment.
i saw them coming right away, but what's sad is people tell me the first couple of theirs were actually good.
@@KairuHakubi I only remember liking Spy Hard as a kid (which they wrote), but I'm sure it was more because of Leslie Nielsen and Weird Al than anything else.
@@colin8802 I was just thinking the same and you're probably right, i think it's also that kids enjoy the familiar a lot more
It's gone because the culture around humour changed and because Leslie Nilsen passed away. He alone carried the entire sub-genre if you ask me.
This narrator is terminally woke. The all jokes are problematic attitude has destroyed comedy movies, God help us we should laugh at our own human absurdity once in a while.
The woke sucked all the fun out of the world. Everything is offensive now.
I cannot say the n word and be transphobic anymore, we are doomed as a society
The Friedberg/Seltzer movies are the least “woke” on this list. Mel Brooks’ best movie, Blazing Saddles, is entirely taking the piss out of racists.
Walk Hard was probably the last best spoof movie. It so nails the music bio-pict and hope more people see it. When it comes to TV, Community nails it.
Loved that movie. I couldn’t tell if the video creator liked it or not because he seems a bit overly sensitive about some topics.
The wrong kid died!
I would say the film Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping (2015) is also a very good spoof movie but thats probably because the lonely island are just very good at what they do tbh.
Such an underrated movie.
I can just hear my dad saying
"The wrong kid died!" If we still talked.
Dewey Cox
The "Airplane Mode" is like the "Meme Airplane safety PSA" stretched out to a lenght of a full movie
Good video. You can always measure a culture by its willingness to laugh at itself. The Brooks - Not Another Teen Movie was peak self referential culture jokage. But now? Now everyone's a wuss who can't take a joke about themselves. Fuck calling scenes racist or transphobic btw, especially if they were made in an earlier, often more civilized and more self aware era, which most were. Either everything is funny and everyone's fair game, or nothing and no one is. This is the biggest problem spoof faces. No one can laugh at themselves. The second biggest problem is that there's nothing new to parody, because everything is a rehash of something else or a desperate hollow Hollywood devoid of talent to actually move the needle. Also, all the desperate rehashes are now sanitized for people who can't laugh at themselves. See how this postmodern era we're living in has no merit? Everything that was once good entertainment is now 'part of the problem.' This cannot stand much longer. Eventually, we'll get a spoof of this entire western cultural movement. Maybe it'll be called Social Justice Wars, or perhaps even Microagressors: Identity War - or maybe even just something like Woke Movie. Either way, I can't wait for someone to just bloody make it already. Oooh boy will that ruffle some overprotected feathers. Oh and Walk Hard was awesome.
Fun Fact: I saw Meet the Spartans in theaters, I was the only one there then I fell ill directly afterwards and didn't consciously wake up for 3 days.
I went to go see that film in the cinema with my entire family as a kid...man what a memory.
Honestly, I watched Meet the Spartans, Epic Movie, Date Movie, and Disaster Movie in one night when I slept over my then-best friend's house as a kid. They obviously weren't masterpieces but I don't remember hating them that much. 🤷🏻♀️ Idk maybe its just bc I was a child but they weren't the worst movies I've ever seen. I didn't love them or hate them, I felt just kinda neutral abt them tbh. The worst movie I've ever seen is Rio. Hands down. Went to see that in the cinema for my 13th bday with my then-boyfriend, my then-best friend, and my cousin. My cousin got so bored she legit changed clothes halfway through right there in the back seats. Me and my then-boyfriend spent the entire time cuddling and I stg I nearly fell asleep on him. None of us were interested in the film at all. I still don't know how Rio got the amount of praise it did. Awful movie, honestly.
@@xotbirdox Río is not bad. I’m guessing you just don’t like animated movies it’s ok. I respect your opinion but you are wrong about Rio. It got praise because it has some good writing and was more entertaining than any family movie we got that year besides the muppets movie with Jason Segal.
naked gun is for me legitimitly a masterpiece of a movie
Agreed. The Zucker Brothers were masters of the genre.
What about mel brooks?
The problem, I think, is the context. Everything has already become self-aware that there is nothing left for spoof movies to deconstruct.
Movies like The Airport or Top Gun were great source for spoofing, because they took themselves so seriously. We don't have any new big blockbuster films that are so serious.
This is kind of similar to the reason Mad Magazine stopped (or cut way down on) spoofing advertisements. When an entire generation of Mad readers grew up to become an entire generation of ad writers, almost all commercials make fun of themselves at least as well as Mad could.
@@BigAL68xyz Also MAD started putting actual ads in. It was maybe the third issue I got after my parents got me a subscription. I was reading through the ad looking for the subversion and it never came, the disappointment was immense. I now go out of my way to avoid advertising through just about any means.
Idk, you could spoof all these SuperHero movies coming out of the cookie cutter...
...but I think between DeadPool & the movies themselves, that slot has already been filled. & over saturated. It would probably be a(nother) instaflop
“I just wanted to say good luck and we’re all counting on you”
"hitler must be laughed at"
chaplin did it, then mel brooks, and now taika waititi; each generation has been roasting him, and i love it
Not to mention all the Hitler parodies on TH-cam.
Not this generation, though. Count Dankula was fined by his own government for teaching his dog to do the Roman salute, a trick he taught for the express purpose of making fun of Hitler and his regime.
@@CysmaWinheim I said taika waititi, didn't i? Jojo Rabbit came out about a bit back
Heil myself.
@@CysmaWinheim Jojo Rabbit certainly makes fun of Hitler and the absurdities of Nazi Germany. It does so with class and heart. That's our generation's best Hitler parody. Also, Look Who's Back is another amazing satire of Hitler.
Monty python isn’t a spoof movie, it’s a Cinematic historical masterpiece
Which one? I know that Holy Grail, Life of Brian, and Meaning of Life are all factual documentaries lol
@@craigyoung9321 All of them.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 that i agree. each of them were classics. while i loved the holy grail more. all the others are defiantly fun to watch
I honestly never got it l, I thought was kinda just lame. All of them I couldn't find the laugh
It’s okay.
20:07 - I think Eddache actually misinterpreted the quote. You don't have to watch the episodes themselves in chronological order, quote meant that you had to WATCH the episodes and PAY ATTENTION to them SO THAT the viewers can appreciate the gags and jokes. The snippet even says right there that episodes "required rapt attention from the audience". There are more articles about it and even an interview with Leslie Nielsen himself saying how 80's TV audience mainly kept shows running in the background while doing chores, which is why the show's attention-requiring humor didn't work.
You have to pay attention in any show you watch, if you're not paying attention, why are you watching the show?
@@Master_Exploder5000 background noise
Depends on the show. The news, true crime, documentaries are easily listenable. Dramas and comedies depend more on body language/sight gags/visual cues.@@Master_Exploder5000
What Happened To Spoof Movies? Leslie died and people stopped writing them for him XD
10:50
"What knockers!"
"Oh thank you doctor"
I didn't know they had jokes like that back then lol
Dude why are you everywhere on yt
They did because back then practically nobody got offended lol 🙃
@@deez2037 "marginalised people were ignored"
That's what my sister said when she watched that movie.
sexual jokes are a new invention apparently
I can't help it. I love Spaceballs to pieces. It was me and my sister's most played VHS growing up. I guess anything even semi-funny or ridiculous happening is enough to keep kids entertained, but I did see it again a few years ago and still had a blast. It's not a masterpiece like Young Frankenstein or Blazing Saddles, but it is my favorite and will always hold a special place in my heart. It's just too damn quotable.
I recently watched Spaceballs...
...and had a good time watching it.
Same i need to rewatch it soon actually
Spaceballs is so funny😂
Yogurt.... *I HATE YOGURT!*
"I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes!"
"Keep firing, assholes!"
Ironically, I think the best spoof of the last 20 years is a tv show: Archer
I'm not sure if Wellington Paranormal is a true spoof but boy is it good
@@kezkai it spoofs the "police procedural" and "fantasy horror" genres fairly well. "What We do in the Shadows" deserves a look if you like W.P.
The Life of Brian never gets old because society and people don't change... the 'what did the romans ever do for us' scene was brought to life when the brits voted themselves out of the EU.
Except for the part where it's the UK overwhelmingly benefitting the EU...
@@Bobo-ox7fjSuuuuuuure lol. Ok boomer.
I never realised that was a hone alone reference, I just thought it was a bad joke. Turns out its both. You have opened my eyes
I used to yell and scream and run away like that after i saif good-bye... no wonder people wanted me medicated.. hahah..
I too never connected the home alone aspect...
To be fair about Doofy, given the context of the ending it's much more forgivable. SPOILER WARNING.
Doofy is revealed to be the killer and has been faking his stupidity the whole time, having using the stupidity as a cover so nobody would suspect him to be the killer.
Right... and now is controversial because of all what ever this shit culture is called this days, ah yes "political correctness"
I'm for joking at all expenses but be smart and creative, other wise you look like you are trying to get cheap shots
@@rubberduck2401 political correctness is just fascism disguised as manners.
@@lordtullus9942 wouldn't go that far, but like everything that people starts to do and becomes significant (profitable to individuals)... well things get out of proportions. I don't know how bad things are in US (jesus in 21st century we talking about human rights in "civilized world"), only I can say your way of life somehow is copied around the globe. For me if you need to declarative (written) bann you know there are some deeper issues
That was the dumbest part of the video tbh. There's like 4 different jokes of Cindy getting beat up while he says how bad the Special Needs character had it.
I told you not to bug me when I'm cleaning my room!
The good thing about Life of Brian. At first they were utterly confused by Stans outing. But in the end they fully accepted loretta.
Indeed. It did strike me as odd in that scene that the normally overly bureaucratic Reg would call out Loretta on a specific technicality, almost like John Cleese was stepping out of character to stand on a soapbox, but I'm pleased it at least got accepted and consistent for the rest of the film
I don't know if it was intended as a joke, but I kinda liked the framing of his right as a _man_ to be a woman. Like, using patriarchal notions of male supremacy against transphobes.
Maybe readin' too much into it.
And part of the joke was that Stan wanted to be Loretta because he wanted to be able to conceive and bear a baby himself. And I always interpreted Johns reaction to be more about that bit than the normal gender swapping argument. But, ever the beurocrats, they adopt the stance that the impossibility of Stan bearing a child himself in no way actually contradicts his right to want it. One should be able to want something even if it is impossible to get. Even if it sounds silly on the surface.
This makes me love the humor in Monty Python. Many layers, and beneath most of the jokes are sound arguments poking holes at accepted beliefs.
And it makes me despise lazy humor. The Seltzer and Friedman kind that just goes "HAHAH YOU KNOW THIS THING!"
Came here to talk about it! Its a good thing Eddache aknowledges this because when he sets up that scene side by side with actual gross, horrible transfobic depictions it makes it stand out even more as different from those.
@@AKImeru Its by far the least extreme example especially when compared to the others but I wanted to include it as one from across the history of spoof movies. It remains an uncomfortable blip in an otherwise brilliant movie.
20:09 It’s not “the viewer had to watch it in order // to appreciate it” it’s “the viewer had to watch it // in order to appreciate it.” May have just been a brain fart, but the very next sentence explains it. The jokes were just flying left and right and it wasn’t the kind of show where you could do stuff with it on. To quote the very next sentence after your highlighted quote, “this wasn’t the type of show where you could read the newspaper while it was on..”.
Which, as the snippet also mentions, is such an incredibly stupid reason, ESPECIALLY when you consider it's actually a great reason to keep it on because having to pay attention would suggest people less likely to skip ads (or they'd risk missing the show continuing).
Somehow the truth was stupider than the misinterpretation
It’s a shame how much has been ruined by political correctness
it hasn't
@@dontspikemydrink9382 has.
I’m going to choose to believe the trigger warnings before each segment is a spoof of the idiotic sensitivity of social justice culture.
How else would someone as awesome as Larry Buddy JR have anything to do with this video, right? Right? Riiiiiiiiight?
As somebody who used to be all anti-SJW, what’s actually wrong with a trigger warning? Even if it’s unnecessary, it doesn’t hurt the video, it’s like
@@lentlemenproductions770 It’s not really this one guy doing it on this one video that irks me. It’s the entire culture of it. It’s annoying af, and is often enforced by some seriously angry bitter hypocrites. Just going off experience. The ideology pushing these things is not one I support or want to take over more. Even children aren’t this soft and weak, treating adults this way is not only pathetic, but damaging.
@@MrThankman360 Well, I can't attest to your personal experience. I would say that, in terms of people being 'weak', that is certainly one way of saying "Has has a traumatic experience they would rather not relive on their relaxing Saturday afternoon.".
And even if someone CAN watch something - maybe they just don't want to, and that's OK. I won't necessarily argue that some people out there nowadays do seem quite fragile, but I don't know those people, I don't know their stories.
@@lentlemenproductions770 What traumatic experiences will you be discussing with your therapist as the result of watching some TH-camr talk about the evolution of a subgenre of comedy movies for an hour?
How many war veterans have been diagnosed with PTSD since the year 1900 and how many war films have been made with a trigger warning for them? The trigger warnings for fragile, self-absorbed, coddled adult children on twitter, tumblr, and reddit are self-manufactured for seeking attention, sympathy, and projection of virtue through perpetual victimhood.
So I think the issue with current spoofs is the issue that the genre parodies lack the tone setup. The most successful spoofs set up the tone, visual style, tropes and aethetic of what they parody. Then subvert the expectations. Shrek, airplane, blazing saddles, hotshots, young Frankenstein, spaceballs, robin hood men in tights ect all set up the visual style, tone and atmosphere of what they parody. When you gave the chestburster scene in spaceballs, you go from a fairly light comedy to suddenly horror when the chestburster erupts to suddenly comedy once more when he dances himself away. The bad comedies dont do this simply putting the character in regardless of genre or tone and not saying anything about them other than "haha they say the fuck word".
I think that's part of it but I also think that it's the failure to really follow through on having a plot and remaining faithful to the plot and story even though you are doing a send-up.
@@Lendorien yeah I can agree to that. A lot of spoofs can get really distracted and forget about the plot leading to scenes that aren't funny and dont go anywhere only to go to another tangent Avenue.
Imagine a Spoof movie with an edgier mood or mean-spirited tones...
@@fernie-fernandez that's exactly the thing that killed spoof films... what do you mean? Because like a spoof is supposed to be comedic right, so like dark edgy spoofs fall into the pit of family guy "you cant say that" style comedy, which often falls flat because it can only go so far without just being outright transphobia/homophobia/racism/ablism ect.
At a point that edgy comedy stops being a joke and just becomes insulting the individual, implying that you the viewer should be mocked for things you cant control Like race, sexuality, gender, disability or mental health, weight ect
now if you mean to take a light genre IE superheroes, romantic comedies, kids sports films ect more serious or dark well them that's not really spoof either its pastiche or a dark parody.
@@NovastarDoughnut Well, it's not about using comedy for laughs or cringe that I would use, it's more on the lines of "Should I even laugh" when a brutal-honest or mean-spirited quote was said...
It ended with Leslie Neilson. He is the main thread that connects the best spoofs after the 80’s
A recent spoof that didn't get nearly enough love that you missed (or maybe you don't consider it a spoof) is "Popstar Never Stop, Never Stopping", which is spoofing the celeb musician documentaries and I feel is incredibly clever and inventive both in its songs thanks to Lonely Island, but also in its non-musical humor, containing an assortment of visual, auditory, and dialogue gags.
such a great movie - one of the greatest spoofs or parodies in the last decade at the very least
Yeah it was up there with Walk Hard.
Great movie
Andy Samberg is an excellent writer
Talk about the man wanting to be a woman lol
Great video! No mention of "Mafia!"?
Thank you!
Mafia! was great, deserves mention
oogie boogie boogie :)
Wow! A North Korean!
He didn't mention it specifically to upset you.
Personally, I blame "two of the six writers who worked on Scary Movie." You know the ones. They oversaturated the market with *bad* spoof movies, so everyone got tired of them.
Idk... I laughed at all 5 of them. They're top notch quality compared to what comes out these days.
@@m0t0b33 No you didnt and no they aren't.
@@Jayfive276 says who?
@@m0t0b33 this explains a lot actually lol
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist is one of the most original spoof movies as it used original film footage and dubbed new audio over and CGId the main character in. Genuinely hilarious
It's a firm favourite of mine
It’s so great, but wish Oderkirk would’ve made a sequel, as we know the sequel is in developmental hell
@@supershmueli at this point any good kung fu movie is welcome, the last good movie i remember watching is chinese zodiac from 2012
@@devforfun5618
I doubt any money-hungry company these days wants to make a movie that China could potentially see as making fun of them or anything of the sort. It's the sad reality that everyone is bending over to them.
@@commietearsdrinker maybe they could spoof a Japanese martial arts movie. China's film censorship board loves anything that dunks on the Japanese
Bro you care way too much about jokes made decades ago. They aged just fine. Had a hard time taking you seriously at all whenever a joke hurt your feelings.
"Give me a name"
"Aren't your parents suppose to do that?"
Laughed to tears.
Remember : No other big city name sounds more like DESTROYED than DETROIT
There's just a problem with comedy movies in general. When was the last truly great comedy movie to come out? I read an article that people are no longer interested in films that are purely comedies because films like Avengers as an example have enough laughs in them that people get their fix from that. If comedy movies are on the decline, spoofs have very little chance of making a comeback.
The last great comedy that I think was made was 'Clerks 2'. I've heard interviews with directors of earlier comedies (the guys that did Joker and Hangover for example) and they simply said with todays PC culture, it's simply impossible to make a decent comedy. To many people are both over sensitive and command to much power that studios are to terrified to take the risk of comedies as there is simply to much to lose.
@@kingcosworth2643 I remember that interview. However, Todd Phillips said that right before the highly successful JOJO RABBIT came out. And a year later, BORAT 2 was just as well received. So... No, the comedy genre is still doing well.
the most recent truly great comedy film thats only comedy? probably the hangover or what we do in the shadows
Sometimes the fall of comedy films even in Italy correlate with the horrendously worsening qualities of many godawful Cine Panettoni films.
In other words, many of the world’s worst Italian films are largely set in Christmas or are about the holiday itself as usual.
Comedy films have moved to TH-cam, as have spoofs.
27:25 that scene (which follows) is legend: Charlie Sheen on that boat, referring to his own father's (Martin Sheen) role in "Apocalypse Now" (being on that patrol boat), while writing a letter to this grandma with the same words as he self did in his role as Chris in "Platoon".
I think you missed an important factor in Scary Movie 1 when it came too Doofy, at the end of the movie they reveal that he isn't disabled at all and it was just an act. like thats not bad representation, thats someone pretending to be something else to get away with murder lol.
"Oh they were just faking a disability for X selfish reason" isn't actually less ablest (Literally what IRL weirdos like Hotep king Umar Johnson say about the 800 fucktillion invisible disabilities I have, ie ADHD, autism, PTSD, depression, being disabled and trans and living in the suburbs with no driver's license), overdone (The Fred TV show did that plot line with Kevin faking a broken leg so Fred has to look after him), uncreative (""), or cringeworthy (My head wants my spine to rip itself out of my ribcage and scapula and slither away just to avoid thinking about that).
eh, see the thing with spoofs is that the absurdism of their storyworld dictates that - scene to scene - there is no continuity of logic. You can get your head cut off one scene, and walk back in frame unhurt later with no explanation needed (or wanted, really). So given that, Doofy is disabled for real until he isn't, and when it's revealed he's the secret mastermind it has zero retroactive bearing on his character. Spoofs resist canon.
@@MrPiccoloku Bless your heart.
@@MrPiccoloku Yeah, I guess him being a murderer is fine but pretending to be disabled is what makes him the bad guy, not both of those things.
It was a Parody of The Usual Suspects where, Spoiler Alert, Kevin Spacey's Character feigns disability the whole movie then the last scene is him walking out of the Police Station and ditching his Disabled Persona more with every step until he's walking like a cool crime lord.
i like this movie but i dont like the part when they make fun of (insert group) or i like this movie and like it when they dont make jokes about (insert group) ......
"Who are you and how did you get in here?"
"Im a locksmith. And im a locksmith."
I laughed way harder than i should have.
😂😂😂🤣
I don't get it
@@absolutemattlad2701 in english speaking societies one’s job is often conflated for ones identity: who are you? “I’m a locksmith”
Locksmiths are wizards who can disregard ordinary barriers like locked doors: how did you get in here? “I’m a locksmith”
I dont get it even with this explanation
there was nothing wrong with doofy or date movies sarah hanagen, Doofy was a villain who was the mastermind and not disabled and his name was a play on words for the name in scream as well as how screams cop was semi incompetant, , and EITHER WAY, dude you are Everything Wrong with PC and what killed comedy today, When rewatching madtv and other devil may care comedies from that era, I realized OMG we never get these jokes anymore, they can be done right, Yes overwight jokes, they still make short jokes etc. its all communities or no community and um... free speech? Jokes are jokes, Stereotypes are completly allowed for white people haha and as a latino GO AHEAD MAKE FUN OF US, every group is on the table because it can be done in a way with LASTING comedy value,
To this day, the comedians going for it have the biggest staying power, we are hungry for true comedy , its a small minority in comparison who actually get upset, and collecively scary movie fans agree ONE was better than 2 But I i did love two,Scary movie was so unique in its approach to parodies, it could be a stand alone movie because it felt like its own movie , what you didn't like about scary movies plot and "parody of a parody" was what i LOVED about it, Scream was not a true parody but a meta analysis movie, scary movie did spoofs proud. I did not expect though that a review on these movies would have some REDICULOUS PC problems,Like... do you know what movies you are reviewing... ? Gotta agree with you on disaster movie ,epic movie, etc. those guys were TERRIBLE AT IT! I hated that they branded them as " 2 of the six writers of scary movie " its what tricked me to watch as a teen.
As soon as he said, "And the joke is..." my phone crashed back to the homescreen. Quite the joke.
You got a bit off towards the end there, yeah the movies were bad but your reasons for not liking them felt like pandering to the woke mob lol, Probably not but that all you see on youtube 80% of the time these day.
Have you considered that some people just genuinely dislike those thing and aren't "pardering to the woke mob"?
King Pow is my favorite kind of these movies.
Yeah! I was surprised when it wasn't mentioned jere but then again, I dont know anything about its influence towards the Spoof Movie genre.
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@@agilezero5457 probably racism or something
Mel brooks’ has so many good spoofs.
High anxiety, blazing saddles, silent movie, history of the world part 1…
I kinda see spaceballs as his low point
He’s got a badass personal story as well
"Married one child... That didn't work out, so he married a grown woman" I am DEAD
I love the random realization people in spoof movies have on their face when they hear something idiotic and outrageous, usually coming from themselves or someone else. For example, in Scary Movie 3 when Brenda says "The TV is leaking" and takes a second to really think about what she just said.
I love how in a lot of spoofs the characters alternate between being the last sane person on the room and being the weirdest or craziest one depending on the moment. Having all characters make fools of themselves while still being coherent in their characterization is a sign of good writing
"Cindy! This bitch messing up my floor!!"
Brenda and Cindy will always be my favorite.
I think Black Dynamite is one of the best parody movies out there and most definitely should have got a mention but I would heavily recommend it if you haven’t watched it!
Police Squad: They didn't mean you had to watch the shows "in order" as in chronological order. They meant you had to "watch" the shows, actually pay attention to the show, to get the gags, understand and appreciate it. It was intelligent spoof. And they realized that people watch TV without really watching it. A rather scathing commentary on society, that is proven true.
I mention this quite often since I heard Leslie talk about it. Because this is the disaster that Netflix and Amazon is in, they try do do movie things to an audience that isn't paying attention. A very basic difference between the two mediums that reviewers simply don't understand.
Absolutely right, except that I disagree about scathing
A lot of people would have the TV on as background noise while they did the housework, or their hobbies. They got used to being able to follow the plot and the jokes just by listening, and they didn't have their eyes glued to the screen the whole time because they were doing other things at the same time. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing
I don't think it was about the fact that you had to be smart to get the jokes. More about the fact that you literally had to be looking at the screen to get all the sight gags
The doofy part in scary movie seemed cruel but when you realize in the end that he was the mastermind just putting on a show it become somewhat forgivable.
Almost like it was a spoof of yet another movie. This guy really has a hard on for PC.
@@jamesbizs ...a _wee bit_ lulz
I mean if someone somehow hasn't seen "The Usual Suspects" then they'd probably not understand the joke of doofy, and would probably just see it as cruel. But yeah you right
didnt fit with his modern identity politics so hes actually just a sick person, disability jokes are off limits no matter the context but white racial jokes are freegame.
@@jamesbizs someone's a fan