The End of Winnie The Pooh - Eddache

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  • @simplybecca6959
    @simplybecca6959 ปีที่แล้ว +1250

    I really didn't expect to cry over a Winnie the Pooh documentary but here we are
    Thank you for making this

    • @eggbertthe2nd
      @eggbertthe2nd ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same

    • @benderofbo
      @benderofbo ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I entirely expected to and was not disappointed lol

    • @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu
      @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@benderofbohe did too,just have to put that ordinary comment formula ya know.

    • @XELACRAFTS
      @XELACRAFTS ปีที่แล้ว

      What a chump

    • @Charlie-hv3dh
      @Charlie-hv3dh ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same, I mean I grew up with all media from it, movies, books, to kingdom hearts even, but I still didn't expect to end up crying. Such a beautiful story and video.

  • @davidfitzpatrick6535
    @davidfitzpatrick6535 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Honestly I don't think its actually a bad thing that Christopher Milne gave away his toys as now everyone can go and meet the actual Winnie the Pooh and friends.

    • @tomokig2655
      @tomokig2655 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I think this was a very good move from him especially since he did not what many others would have done - auctioning everything off for the highest bid.
      I think this is an act of appreciation towards the fans of his father's work.

    • @EdnaK728
      @EdnaK728 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah,share the wealth I say

    • @unboxing_legend7708
      @unboxing_legend7708 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its basically him saying that he hadnt fully gave up on it however still wanted to part with it. paying homage to the good things that came out of it but moving on now hes too old to basically care for it. even though yes he passed away.

    • @cyanimation1605
      @cyanimation1605 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah. It's definitely the #1 thing I want to do if I ever make it to New York. Pretty high on my bucket list.

  • @adamwebster6867
    @adamwebster6867 ปีที่แล้ว +1333

    The “I don’t like endings so I’ll start at the beginning” made me actually laugh out loud

    • @buttershark8952
      @buttershark8952 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A fucking fart is funnier than that. Good vid tho.

    • @adamwebster6867
      @adamwebster6867 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@buttershark8952 in your opinion, in mine it was funny

    • @Micah_YT
      @Micah_YT ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Butter really got ratiod

    • @creeperfun12
      @creeperfun12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@buttershark8952 L+Ratio

  • @nefwaenre
    @nefwaenre ปีที่แล้ว +734

    i always found it very endearing that a father wrote children's poems, illustrations and invented the whole Winnie the Pooh just to immortalise his son. His did this just for his son, but just like we can never have any good things, so we get all kinds of people who are hell bent in bullying the poor boy. And it's so.. heartwarming to know that CR, after all these years, harboured no hatred, just embarrassments. And that goodbye to CR part absolutely broke me...

    • @hotwax9376
      @hotwax9376 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He was certainly well-meaning, but he probably should've considered the impact it would have on Christopher to publish them.

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Well to be fair. He probably didn't assume the kids to bully him for writing a popular book that KIDS like. That's like bullying someone's son for being the inspiration for batman. It just doesn't feel like it should happen in the first place.

    • @davebob4973
      @davebob4973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrExtraordinaire16 especially since they wouldnt have parents in the first place

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @davebob4973 exactly, I really don't see what was so bad about it. Especially at the time. Where technology wasn't so advance that you can film everything a celebrity does as today.

  • @SquidgySapphic
    @SquidgySapphic ปีที่แล้ว +370

    "…but I like this ending."
    Eddie you legitimately have me in happy tears, you're a great writer and creator, thank you for doing what you do and I hope you can keep doing what you love for as long as you want to. 💖

  • @jorgerosado2087
    @jorgerosado2087 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I really love the idea of a story that exists as both a nostalgic lookback and also an appreciation for the future and what it holds. Personally, this is why I love films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and 12 Angry Men. Even though they're set in a specific time, it feels timeless.
    Also damn the Gopher/Piglet conspiracy goes hard.

    • @haakenbailey7381
      @haakenbailey7381 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Funny that you mentioned 12 Angry Men, since the original voice actor for Piglet was in 12 Angry Men (1957)

  • @theotherjared9824
    @theotherjared9824 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The immortal nature of Winnie the pooh is thematically appropriate. As we grow up, the childhood we had doesn't just disappear. It continues without us and takes on a life of its own. If something from long ago suddenly pops into our head years later, we often find it widly different and more expansive than when we left it, just like this franchise.

  • @Brawler1993
    @Brawler1993 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    I've always felt like turning Winnie the Pooh into a horror story is such a boring and cynical idea. It's just too easy. A shame that nobody else seems to have any other ideas for it that don't involve making it "adult."

    • @cityguard4847
      @cityguard4847 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Of course it was boring and cynical. Anyone who does these things don’t love the original. They tend to be very unappealing and cynical individuals.

    • @kademcarthur5362
      @kademcarthur5362 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Personally I’m not against making it more adult, just not in that way

    • @whyiamafs
      @whyiamafs ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Other ideas like... (I want and need to hear them)

    • @Nahnbie2223
      @Nahnbie2223 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ​@@whyiamafslike a story where Pooh accidentally says a swear word lol

    • @sdtwirix1126
      @sdtwirix1126 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Pooh learning how to swear is great.
      For another idea, maybe we have an older Christopher Robin (Maybe in his teens/early adulthood?) who's having a rough time adjusting, and comes over to see his friends in Hundred Acre Wood, and the gang is trying to be there for him.
      It never goes into monsters and stuff, just, discussing more heavy topics and being a lot of found family stuff, friends being there for each other.

  • @jonathanstempleton7864
    @jonathanstempleton7864 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I spent all my childhood holidays in Devon where Christopher R Milne had his bookshop. My mum would take me in and point him out and say "That's Christopher Robin" and I never believed her because to me Christopher Robin was a boy in a book who had adventures in the Hundred Acre Woods. And Mr Milne would give me a smile and a wink as if he knew something I didn't.

  • @Doggie1999
    @Doggie1999 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    The end of Winnie the Pooh for me was the 2018 Christopher Robin film. He grew up, yet Winnie the Pooh came back, to always be with him. I don't think there could possibly a better ending than that.
    Edit: Or possibly Pooh's Grand Adventure. Although it's much older, it did end things off on a very positive, hopeful note.

    • @ackbarfan5556
      @ackbarfan5556 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Both really good movies. Though it has been years since I saw Pooh's Grand Adventure... like... shoot, over 2 decades when I was like 5?

    • @TDProductions182
      @TDProductions182 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There’s also Goodbye Christopher Robin.

    • @Litchy51
      @Litchy51 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’m curious which movie do you guys like more, Goodbye Christopher Robin (2017) or Christopher Robin (2018). I’ve seen both but don’t remember much of either since it’s been a while so I’d like to ask you guys.

    • @TDProductions182
      @TDProductions182 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Litchy51 I remember Goodbye Christopher Robin being an amazing movie back then.

    • @velvet_victor
      @velvet_victor ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Litchy51Goodbye Christopher Robin is a better movie

  • @raymondtherat4960
    @raymondtherat4960 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    The first Eddache video to make me cry. I knew so little about the history behind Pooh, and this was an incredibly emotional and well researched video that really shone a light into both the inspiration behind and the adaptations of the story. What an absolutely amazing video-your channel is criminally underrated and you deserve so many more subscribers!!! Bravo!!!

  • @jaketaller8567
    @jaketaller8567 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Fun fact: Since 1984, these has been an Annual World Pooh Sticks Championship held in the UK.

  • @leoultimaupgraded9914
    @leoultimaupgraded9914 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I’m surprised the history behind Winnie the Pooh was so tragic, but I’m glad Christopher Wilne got to reconcile with Christopher Robin and Pooh before he passed away.
    I still love Winnie the Pooh regardless, even more now after watching this video and learning the true ending of the original book, because I’m now an adult, and although its hard to say goodbye to my childhood, I’ll always remember it fondly
    Also, I wish I could’ve met Alan Milne, he sounded like a lovely human being, and I salute him for making such a lovely series and bittersweet but necessary ending to it.
    also sorry for adding more, but seeing the ending again made me genuinely cry. Winnie the Pooh is a genuine work of art and I respect Alan all the more after learning about its beginning and ending.

  • @wratched
    @wratched ปีที่แล้ว +352

    A Winnie the Pooh horror movie could be really good if whoever writes it understands Winnie the Pooh. Its idiosyncratic writing style and wordplay and its references to childhood fears lend themselves to a dark fairy tale asthetic.

    • @wratched
      @wratched ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MandmaMusic do know that. also watched the trailer, and whoevmade it had never reWinnie the Pooh

    • @rot_seraph
      @rot_seraph ปีที่แล้ว +17

      So, uh... Del Toro?

    • @whyiamafs
      @whyiamafs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES YES YES - I WANT TO SEE THIS!!! 😃😮💖

    • @Imperials3nate
      @Imperials3nate ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They could've gone down the FnaC 3 route of childhood trauma and escapism leading to isolation, with Pooh terrified of dissapearing, and he and Chris learn acceptance and to fight "the beast" (a representation of maybe a Hansel and Gretal domestic abuse/losing your family senario- depending on your preference).

    • @viviennemorgan7217
      @viviennemorgan7217 ปีที่แล้ว

      there already is one

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I think there will always be parodies, especially since parts of the IP are so new to public domain, but I don't think it will affect it too much in the long run. Look at all the Jane Austen parodies for example, there's room for both authentic and satirical adaptations.

    • @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
      @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I haven’t actually heard about Jane Austen until this comment, might as well check her out XD

    • @ackbarfan5556
      @ackbarfan5556 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, does that ring a bell now?

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It'll ultimately fade into obscurity, only to be remembered as a cheap and nasty cash-grab, maybe it'll stick in the mind of people who like to riff on bad movies for fun but that's it.

    • @ackbarfan5556
      @ackbarfan5556 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thrownstair Oh, seeing RiffTrax take that down a peg would be funny. XD

    • @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
      @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ackbarfan5556 you mean that zombie movie Disney made?

  • @LinkDawnbringer
    @LinkDawnbringer ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I'll be honest, I always felt the sad goodbye in Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, the finality of it all. It made me realize the loss of my childhood. I was a kid to be fair, but I still felt that melancholy.

  • @ZiddersRooFurry
    @ZiddersRooFurry ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Pooh isn't completely public domain nor is Disney's version. "To give some background, Milne’s 1926 book is in the public domain, but changes to Winnie-the-Pooh, the character, from the original 1926 book are still under copyright protection. Milne’s Winnie-the-Pooh did not wear a red shirt; another author gave Pooh his shirt and Disney acquired rights to that depiction in 1961 and continues to own the rights to showing the character in a little red shirt today. Also, Milne spelled Winnie-the-Pooh with hyphens; Disney removed them."
    From "How ‘Public’ is the Public Domain? Winnie-the-Pooh Illustrates Copyright Limitations of Public Domain Works" by Christine Xiao.
    Disney's Pooh doesn't go public domain until sometime in the 2050's.

    • @TECH097
      @TECH097 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's why I'm so confused as to how Blood and Honey got away with it's main villain (because no it ain't Pooh) wearing a red shirt. Maybe it being a plaid button-up was what made it legally distinct??? I woulda guessed Disney Lawyers would be enough to argue "No it's a red shirt doesn't matter".

    • @ZiddersRooFurry
      @ZiddersRooFurry ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TECH097 Satire, pretty much. Notice the trailers almost look like something someone would make as a parody (which is what everyone thought it was before they announced it was an actual film).

    • @hotwax9376
      @hotwax9376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And only then the first of the featurettes.

    • @MegaMagicdog
      @MegaMagicdog ปีที่แล้ว

      This is Disney - they'll find a way to have Pooh in perpetuity. Probably bribe a few Congress critters. How do you think the public domain laws got changed? They used to be only 50 years from their debut, now it's 95! Imagine all the IPs that debuted prior to 1973 that WOULD have been public domain now! Everything from Scooby Doo to Star Trek!

  • @GabrielKnightz
    @GabrielKnightz ปีที่แล้ว +28

    “How lucky am I to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”
    A.A. Milne, The Complete Tales of Winnie-the-Pooh

  • @_The_Archive_
    @_The_Archive_ ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Fun Fact: In the Disney movies, Tigger's trademark "Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!" laugh by was ad-libbed by Paul Winchell as well as his famous "TTFN: Ta-Ta For Now!" line, at the suggestion of his wife.

    • @devernepersonal3636
      @devernepersonal3636 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You know, I never caught in all these years that TTFN was just him using the acronym and then actually saying the full phrase. My kid brain always saw them as two different things.

    • @Stathio
      @Stathio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Gran always used to say that when we were leaving after visiting her when I was little. I didn't even really realise it was something Tigger said. I also had a cat named Tigger, coincidentally.

  • @chrisbarone515
    @chrisbarone515 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I'd rather see Winnie the Pooh as an all-powerful immortal superhero than some cereal killer.

    • @Trainboy452
      @Trainboy452 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So that's the guy who murdered my Honey Nut Cheerios.

    • @zikry4787
      @zikry4787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sure about that?

    • @chrisbarone515
      @chrisbarone515 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zikry4787 Just look at Ultra instinct Shaggy.

    • @zikry4787
      @zikry4787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisbarone515 yeah but shaggy is different than Pooh. Shaggy's been backed up by a bunch of memes. The only meme with Pooh I can think of is the doobus goobus one where everyone just likes him

    • @AdahnFlorence
      @AdahnFlorence 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the angle of him being immortal would be an interesting story to tell. I'm just imagining someone like Neil Gaiman taking a crack at it.

  • @MarionettePuppetMaster
    @MarionettePuppetMaster ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Winnie The Pooh will always be everyone's childhood, and even me when I was young, and the story behind Winnie the Pooh was indeed heartwarming, interesting, and somewhat heartbroken at the same time.
    It's inevitable for any stories like this, to continue on without a satisfying ending.
    Anyways, great video for a 30 minute analysis for Winnie the Pooh. I do in fact enjoy looking back throughout all of the Winnie the Pooh stories, and curious of some of the controversies of what has happened, especially the lawsuit and even the public domain situation oh god!

  • @florinivan6907
    @florinivan6907 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Turning Winnie the Pooh into a slasher villain is just about the laziest edgelord idea you can think of.

  • @pastamanfilms2525
    @pastamanfilms2525 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For the Pooh horror movie they could have just made him a crazy guy in a mask, like leather face but with an obsession with Winnie the Pooh.

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would have taken effort

  • @dannypalin9583
    @dannypalin9583 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm probably being melodramatic, but that final image of Christopher Robin and Pooh holding hands and skipping into the sunset has always made me feel wistful and sad, even at an early age.

  • @artofdrinking
    @artofdrinking ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Having your dad read the extracts really hit me in the feels.... Excuse me I need to call my dad.

  • @timemachinegeek
    @timemachinegeek ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Wow, the production work for this video is incredible. Eddache just keeps getting better!

  • @davidfitzpatrick6535
    @davidfitzpatrick6535 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well lets be honest here people in the 60s and 70s (Disney's dark age so to speak) Pooh bear merchandise was what kept DIsney merch afloat. My Mom grew up in the 60s and 70s and she told me she remembered seeing Winnie the Pooh everywhere and its partially why she loves bears so much.

  • @ApetureTestSubject
    @ApetureTestSubject ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I can never predict what Eddie will make a video about next, but every time I'll learn something I didn't previously know, and it's told with such sincerity and sometimes humour that I will always find it fascinating.
    I knew very little about Winnie the Pooh. Now I see why some people hold it so close to their heart.
    This was a beautiful video.

  • @joed7547
    @joed7547 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mate, your pop's gotta get into audio reading business, such a beautiful voice.

  • @insu_na
    @insu_na ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that horror spin-off is imo disgusting to me. I personally never watched or read Winnie The Pooh, but I know the value it has, showing a comfy, tranquil place, while we live in a world so full of garbage. that cynical perversion of the story just makes me angry

  • @RukoHanaji
    @RukoHanaji ปีที่แล้ว +7

    21:45 I don't know about kid's media in regards to Choo Choo Charles; that's obviously taken from Stephen King's Charlie the Choo Choo, which comes from the Dark Tower series.
    Anyway a couple of observations. Despite being a Yank, Milne's books overshadowed the Disney version in my childhood. (Of course, I was also 7 when The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh came out. Yeah, I'm old.) I remember as a teenager reading about Christopher Milne's horrific school experiences, including being greeted every morning with a recording of Vespers until he shattered the record.
    I was actually super pleased that you made the connection between the Milne's family relationship and fame with that of J. M. Barrie and the Davies boys. Peter Davies always referred to Barrie's play as "that terrible masterpiece", as it too followed him through his life.
    Now, back to the horror! As someone who IS a fan of the genre, I rolled my eyes into the back of my head over the idea of Blood and Honey, and I refuse to see it. And I have to agree the ideas you just came up with off the top of your head are way better than that piece of crap.
    But thank you again Eddie, for a great video! I'm feeling all nostalgic now, I need to go read some poetry. Rice Pudding it is!

  • @zacherytaylor
    @zacherytaylor ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Once again Eddie has taken something that I didn't care much for as a child and made it into something I have a deep understanding and love for.

  • @djquinn4825
    @djquinn4825 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Subject makes me think about Pooh's Grand Adventure, where Christopher growing up (in this case, starting school) and not being able to spend as much time with Pooh is basically the impetus of the events. Of course, that one is told from Pooh and friends' perspective and is about their growth. Man, I love that movie. In a way, its plot is kinda the reverse of the Blood and Honey backstory lol

    • @Mariokemon
      @Mariokemon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      to this day, I STILL go S-C-H-O-O-L. SKULL!!!!

  • @frankster.4270
    @frankster.4270 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I am truly surprised you didn’t use the bee movie clip of Winnie getting sedated because he was eating honey.

  • @Gman-441
    @Gman-441 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love your work eddie! There is a large rodent in my bathroom which my cat didn’t eat, and I am scared and terrified sitting on my seat watching your videos, watching for it to go away, cheers.

    • @patiencem3928
      @patiencem3928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a few weeks ago, I had a medium sized mouse looking around the house and it made all of the members of the house on edge. Eventually (and hopefully), the pest folks caught one but I swear, I thought I saw another one that was brown. Really hope that was just my anxious imagination.

    • @glowstoneunknown
      @glowstoneunknown ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read this in Peter Falk's voice

  • @mc.gemstone
    @mc.gemstone ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As someones early fixation being Winnie the Pooh watching it all the time on VHS and DVD, even my room when I was just a baby being Pooh Bear themed. This hits very close to home and made me feel pretty emotional.
    And learning new things about the book and characters has given me a new respect for it as well.

  • @ILoveKimPossibleAlot
    @ILoveKimPossibleAlot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I came here for Winnie the Pooh lore, and I am not disappointed. GG!

  • @MonoHerobrine
    @MonoHerobrine ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hey Eddache, I don't know if you remember me, I did the interview with you at comicon for my channel. I said before that your TMNT video you made was my favorite, well, you managed to out do it with this video. This video, going through the history of a franchise I hold dearly to my heart. Learning about A. A. Milne, Christopher Milne, the many creations and adaptations of Winnie The Pooh.
    This video means a lot to me, thank you for creating, quite possibly, my favorite TH-cam video ever. I hold it that highly. You are a wonderful person Eddache, and I will always come back to watch your well written and deeply thorough videos. You are an inspiration to us all, hope you and your family take care. :3

  • @WannabeMarysue
    @WannabeMarysue ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm glad Winnie the Pooh is public domain. We may see some cynical cash-grabs and it stings, but I think it's hopeful. Now we can all play in that world, forever. The original ending is poignant, but now we can all play. Winnie the Pooh can play with Sherlock Holmes and Frankenstein's Monster, and that's also poignant.

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Winnie the pooh was such a huge part of my childhood, and despite watching many of the disney adaptations, my recollection of the franchise today is mostly from the audio book, which i would fall asleep to.
    So i was so surprised to hear about thegofer
    Also btw, it might just be because of my connection to the series, but this video is amazing and already made me a bit emotional, good job eddie

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, my dad read the book to me when I was 5 or 6 and while the first Disney adaptations were fine they don't really have the same heart as the original books.
      Gopher was a cheap Disney cashgrab, they are happy to insert funny sidekicks into original stories.

    • @axelschweis4793
      @axelschweis4793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@loke6664I like _Winnie the Pooh_ (2011) more compared to _The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh_ .
      For example, I don't like the Heffalump-and-Woozles song as much in the older movie. The Backson song in the newer movie is better in my opinion. Is not so much abstract and creepy effect.
      In the newer movie, I like the breaking of the fourth wall (the book). It is used more creatively than in the older film.
      And another thing I like about the newer movie is the appearance of all the characters from A. A. Miles books. And no new ones (if you don't count the Backson).

  • @SkellyMan69420
    @SkellyMan69420 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Noticing Tom doing one of the voiceovers gave me a chuckle
    Really great video Eddie!
    Didn’t make me cry like so many others but that doesn’t mean it’s not really great
    I feel for you about saying goodbye, I have a very similar thing where I can’t let go of stuff that has ended.
    All the best,
    The irascible coxswain saunterbluggget hampterfuppinshire

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, must you really left go of stuff that has ended? Of course, everything ends eventually and change is inevitable. One is better off acepting this reality and adapting to it instead of reject and resent it. But when it comes to stories, one can just "move on" to extent. Or simply not move on at all. After all, its the nature of stories to go unchanged by the passage of time (minus the ones that are so old they change every time theyre retold), we can always come back to them once theyre over. So in that way, they will never be fully over, no matter how long ago they ended. Which is kinda comforting for me. We have to adjust to the changes in our life cause we know we cant go back, we can barely look back (and its never the same), but we can still return to those stories that impact and define us. And if enough time has passed, or you have as bad a memory as i do, we can rediscover them that way. It has this interesting effect of stories being timeless but always diferent. Diferent yet familiar. Which i guess its the root of the countless nostalgic cash grabs that have come out in the last few years, something like returning to a story in real time. Or discovering the story never left, it changed with you somehow. And this whole concept takes a diferent meaning considering the real life Christopher Robin and how all the stories of his father were a time capsule from a time he probably didnt even remenbered by the time he grow up to be bothered by it, like an old embarasing picture. Bit of a tangent there, sorry, just where thinking of endings and learning to let go took me. Guess i never really learned to let go myself.

  • @Ch1ck3nMan
    @Ch1ck3nMan ปีที่แล้ว +29

    ‘I don’t like endings so I’ll start at the beginning’
    - Eddache 2023

  • @TheBattlesword
    @TheBattlesword ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Opinion: if Christopher Robin is to rest in peace, Blood and Honey MUST take home the Razzie. I refuse to have a movie that exists to profit off a dead child's memory be overtaken by a Marvel movie, Adam Driver killing dinosaurs, and the Equilibrium guy doing Steven King.
    Maybe that Shin Megami Tensei ripoff made by ultra christians, but that's where I draw the line

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.2850 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It never quite occured to me until now, but in a sense "Winnie the Pooh" is told in third person. Which makes it all the more fascinating that I love these stories and have a lot of childhood nostalgia rooted in them, because the one or two times I've tried to read novels in true third person, I've been able to make it through about two pages before putting the book down and never picking it up again. (least not yet.)

  • @jacobmonks3722
    @jacobmonks3722 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The editing in this is top tier. How does this guy not have millions of subscribers?

  • @DjFluttersMTF
    @DjFluttersMTF ปีที่แล้ว +101

    This was a great 31 minute and 23 second long video! I've watched it 3 times now and am halfway through my 4th watch through! Great work Eddie!

    • @mrdoge2262
      @mrdoge2262 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      We got the flash over here

    • @Doggie1999
      @Doggie1999 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Impossible. The video has only been out for 8 minutes.

    • @TheRoseAlmighty
      @TheRoseAlmighty ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s the joke

    • @commenterbob9601
      @commenterbob9601 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh, so YOU are the guy who is messing with the time-space continuum

    • @Doggie1999
      @Doggie1999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRoseAlmighty It wasn't a very good joke though.

  • @heathinvaderstudios
    @heathinvaderstudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I heard the kid who gave Christopher Robin his American voice in the original version of Winnie-the-Pooh & the Honey Tree was the same kid who later voiced Mowgli in the Walt Disney’s Jungle Book a few years later. Not sure if that’s true, but it sounds pretty cool to me! Oddly enough, the British dub was used for the Many Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh, which I grew up on. I didn’t see the original American-voiced Honey Tree short film until I was a teenager. I was like, “WOAH, that’s different,” except for parts where he sang, went, “Ooh! Heheh,” after hitting his thumb with a hammer on accident while trying to reattach Eeyore’s tail, and when he said, “Tut tut, it looks like rain,” all of which kept the same American voice. I get Disney was originally trying to make the property more American-like so as to resonate with their intended audience, but looking back, I feel like giving Christopher Robin an American accent at all in the first place kinda takes away from the character altogether, making him almost a different character entirely. Am I wrong in thinking this?

  • @Mickey19286
    @Mickey19286 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "In which Pooh murders a bunch of people" had me laughing

  • @ItsCamille735
    @ItsCamille735 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ngl this is probably my favourite video you’ve made. The way you describe the story of Christopher Miller genuinely has me misty eyed.

  • @vraisairs9201
    @vraisairs9201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked Christopher Robin 2018 cuz it didn’t feel like Christopher Milne. It was the character grown up, not the boy

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Youve got a son? Man. Every creator i like is settling down.

  • @EtherBotGames
    @EtherBotGames ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ......eddache. you're the "how does cat dog poop" guy. you arent allowed to make me actually cry like this

  • @oli_gordon
    @oli_gordon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    21:45 choo choo Charles sure could be inspired by the original works of the rev himself
    But it is original and not dependent on the success of Thomas

  • @Charlie-hv3dh
    @Charlie-hv3dh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Used to fall asleep to audiobooks, and Winnie The Pooh was one of my favorites. I also grew up playing kingdom hearts 1 and 2, and the 100 Acre Woods were always my favorite spots to go to just to be with pooh and friends, and have that feeling of bliss. Heck, the first movie I ever saw in theatres was a winnie the pooh movie.

  • @chrisfratz
    @chrisfratz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If I remember what my mom said to me correctly, my name Christopher was actually inspired by the Kenny Loggins song return to Pooh corner which I remember her telling me a couple years back, so I kind of have a special appreciation of Winnie the Pooh, even though I've only ever seen the Disney adaptations.

  • @theadaptationstationmaster
    @theadaptationstationmaster ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great analysis/retrospective/editorial! I'm not convinced though that the character in the 2018 Christopher Robin movie was meant to take aspects of the real Christopher (Robin) Milne's life. The ones mentioned in the video are either inevitable given the time period or too generic to say. For example, there's been a call recently for more female representation in movies and there's only one female Pooh character, so giving Christopher Robin a wife and daughter was probably inevitable.
    Anyway, I agree that series should end instead of being milked and rebooted forever. But with Disney no longer having the copyright to Winnie the Pooh, I'd love to see more adaptations from other studios. And, no, I don't mean stuff like Blood and Honey. I mean real adaptations. That's not to say I think the original Disney adaptations are bad. I actually love them, and FWIW I think the Brits have historically exaggerated how important Englishness is to the Pooh aesthetic. But they're not the best possible or the only possible adaptations of Pooh. The world could use some new takes on the stories and characters from the many people who love them. (There have already been those obscure Russian cartoons, of course, but this comment is already too long.)
    P.S.
    I love that A. A. Milne has gone from a writer for Punch to the subject of an article in Punch.

  • @chintex_
    @chintex_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    21:48 ... im mean the krampus kinda makes sense considering the actual mythology behind it

  • @robbiewalker2831
    @robbiewalker2831 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    14:35: In all fairness, despite a cameo in the first book's second chapter (which was adapted to the second half of "Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree"), Piglet wasn't involved much. Crazy to know how Gopher was gonna be a mainstay since the first short, but when hearing about complaints, Piglet managed to be introduced in the second film the same way he was *properly* introduced in the the first book's third chapter: "In which Pooh and Piglet go hunting and nearly catch a woozle" (the main story of which was referenced in the second half of "Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too"). It's also crazy to believe that people think Piglet wouldn't be prominent, when the intro and promo art did have him present (yet his Disneyfied look hasn't been finalized). So, the Americans got Gopher in the first short and the Britians got Piglet in the second; it wasn't a total loss in the end, it's a win-win, if you ask me.

    • @theadaptationstationmaster
      @theadaptationstationmaster ปีที่แล้ว

      If I had been watching the Pooh shorts come out when they were first released, I would have been mad about Gopher but no Piglet in the first one. But watching them all right after the other nowadays...yeah, I'm fine with it.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theadaptationstationmaster I mean, people complaining about the "tug Pooh out of Rabbit's Hole" scene in the movie not having Piglet present when the book does? Can't believe that even back then, people still nitpick over everything.

    • @theadaptationstationmaster
      @theadaptationstationmaster 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbiewalker2831 Well, to be fair, Owl, Eeyore, Kanga and Roo were absent from the first chapters of the book and Disney still included them in the first featurette, so I can understand why fans felt Piglet had been snubbed.

  • @Nerdtendo6366
    @Nerdtendo6366 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know, Eddy got that American accent down perfectly. Really thought he was one of us burger gobblers for a second

  • @russelltietjen4407
    @russelltietjen4407 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tom's voicing Christopher Milne at the end really made me tear up

  • @Quartermistress
    @Quartermistress ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think its lovely you got your dad to read the Winnie the Pooh extracts it really reminds me of how my dad used to read pooh to me as a kid.

  • @slimkickens
    @slimkickens ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Winnie The Pooh is really a Garden of Eden myth. But instead of the inevitability of awareness driving one out of the garden, or in this case the hundred acre woods, being a matter of shame, it's tinged with a somber sorrow.

  • @mullaoslo
    @mullaoslo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though the whinne movies are not on my go to disney movies any time I randomly catch the orginal I watch it to the end.. I love the chill vibe, them playing with the text of the book.. Such a perfect rainy Sunday afternoon movie..
    Also is Christopher Robin the only real life modern person who became a Disney character?

  • @caesar7734
    @caesar7734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:44 The character design for Owl is also taken from a previous Disney film, Sleeping Beauty.

  • @Inky-Wells
    @Inky-Wells ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Vision in Age of Ultron put it best when he said, "But a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts."

  • @magicdogstudios6624
    @magicdogstudios6624 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m ‘bout to write a better Winnie the Pooh horror movie right on the spot
    Years after the events of the books the hundred acre woods is sold off to a company to build, I dunno, a farm, golf course, zoo, whatever it doesn’t really matter. The construction of this place scares the plush toys who see their memories with Christopher Robin being threatened and so they all go on a killing spree to protect the magic of the forest. Done.

  • @karabearcomics
    @karabearcomics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the proper way to continue Pooh stories is pretty simple: Christopher Robin should be replaced. It would be interesting to show how another child would envision the adventures with the toys. Maybe it could have a metafictional aspect, and have said child be inspired by the Pooh stories to create imaginary adventures with their own toys, giving them similar personalities to those in the books. In this way, alterations can happen, like to design, personalities, and setting, and be fully understood. Disney is in a unique position for this, because their stories have such immense popularity and their merchandise for the characters so readily available, that it could simply be the story of a child who loved the Pooh movies, so the kid's parents got them a whole set of Pooh toys for a birthday or Christmas (maybe even from Disneyland itself, for further attempts to sell their branding).
    Luckily, with the original stories in the public domain, maybe somebody will take this approach. I mean, I'm a writer and have this idea, so maybe it will spark a story from me. And there are other people out there who might actually be able to write a decent children's book (I mean, I shouldn't insinuate I can't, since I haven't tried, but I doubt I can).

  • @ThatLegoGuy-10140
    @ThatLegoGuy-10140 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:47 Hook is the best film of all time, Fight me

  • @MultiBoxingKid
    @MultiBoxingKid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:50 What kinda insanity is this? That sounds like some bullshit from GTA, not real life.

  • @benburke3015
    @benburke3015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mum actually used to work for punch as an editor and researcher. I'm genuinely curious if she knows about the Angela Milne article. Lol.

  • @TaxyMaxy
    @TaxyMaxy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honsetly this is what I probably needed lol. This video provided comfort for me in a weird way so thanks Eddie shawty.

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blood and Honey is not a good movie and neither is any thing else that looks like it. Ugly characters are not fun to look at. It would be far more scarry if the bear wasn't ugly and it looked cute and then still did horrible things. Thats why Happy Tree Friends works better then FNAF , decaying rusty robots are not scarry. cute unhinged Psycos are scarry. just my opinion Im shore MOST of you disagree

  • @pattikakes_zeph
    @pattikakes_zeph ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hearing all of the backstory about christopher makes the weird horror movie about pooh a little awkward huh

  • @AuthenticMemes4RadicalTeens
    @AuthenticMemes4RadicalTeens ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got me crying about an old dead author. Great video.

  • @iris_drawssandwiches
    @iris_drawssandwiches ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:52 Wait so they got their life posted to facebook before facebook was ever thought of? Like it wasn't like most child stars where it's like a movie but it was because of some early form of blog.

  • @r3tr0_r3dux_2
    @r3tr0_r3dux_2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm not afraid to admit I cried at least three times during the Christopher Robin movie. Tugs on your heartstrings to damn much.

  • @ThisWeekNetwork
    @ThisWeekNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +3

    28:43 This got me in the feels, like my god I'm tearing up.

  • @antonymilne1346
    @antonymilne1346 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its so weird hearing one of my favourite youtubers saying my last name, even weirder hearing it said it right./hj
    This was also such an amazing telling of story behind the books that made up so much of my childhood.

  • @MissOaky
    @MissOaky ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, the Winne the Pooh cartoon on telly back then already had a very melancholic opening song. Does set the mood tho, carefree childhood.

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think people turn children's IPs into horror stories because they didn't have a good childhood themselves, so want to ruin everyone else's childhood so they know what it feels like. Which ironically is an extremely childish thing to do.

    • @kbraven7007
      @kbraven7007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s no excuse, they shouldn’t be doing that just because they had a rotten childhood.
      Take me for example, I was picked on a lot in school and I had to be in the same school as the bully I had to deal with almost a decade and you don’t see me trying to produce a movie of his favorite show/cartoon/movie and completely butchering it.
      If this guy has a problem then he needs help and move on, to heal past his trauma. Everyone had to deal with a bad experience one way or another, but that’s no excuse on dragging people or characters like Winnie the Pooh down with him.

    • @kiwigaming09
      @kiwigaming09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kbraven7007 dude... most of the people who do this just do it for fun because taking something and fundamentally changing it is just fun like take barbenheimmer: putting barbie in the first atomic bomb tests plus even if they had a bad childhood is not using creativity as a form of therapy a good thing? people heal in different ways

  • @eisgnom7383
    @eisgnom7383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly: fuck it, fuck yeah public domain! EVERYBODY can do winnie the pooh stories now, be it for good or for bad. The fact that there is a bad horror movie shouldn't take away from it.

  • @CaityLouise85
    @CaityLouise85 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Now I'm at the end - thank you. This was absolutely brilliant and I was welling up at the end. This video perfectly encapsulates my feelings about Winnie the Pooh but then also explains them, for which I again thank you.

  • @CalTheHogNosedBat
    @CalTheHogNosedBat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't you hate it when you have to dig through a box of Pooh

  • @dara-kelly
    @dara-kelly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blood and honey was just discuting gross out.

  • @thomastheconjunctionfriend7908
    @thomastheconjunctionfriend7908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think You Notice that Choo Choo Charles is a Horror Parody of Thomas the Tank Engine!! Speaking of Thomas, Can You Make a Video about The Rise and Fall Of Thomas the Tank Engine From 1945 to Today??!!☺☺😊😊

  • @Nein1no
    @Nein1no ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My most sincere moment of innocent and unbound joy happened when I was 10 during a visit to Disney World. I was much too shy to step forward, so Tigger approached me to pose for a photo. Looking at that photo and that pure smile - reminds me that such joy is indeed still possible. I am not foolishly chasing it - but I am at least aware it exists & that's all that matters. It instills me with hope & I sincerely wish others could know that feeling as well - if not now - then perhaps someday.
    Thank you for the touching video. ♥

    • @Nein1no
      @Nein1no ปีที่แล้ว

      @EddacheGiveaway. Hey obvious scammer! I have something for you too! 🖕

  • @jeshonloonskin4176
    @jeshonloonskin4176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean, not really, it’s only the original winnie the pooh that’s in public domain, like from the original book, not the movies.

  • @monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002
    @monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the real Winnie the Pooh history's telling me I should give up on my enjoyment of the Winnie the Pooh content that Disney has because Miline probably said so..??
    Then I can only say that as someone that doesn't believe in consistency and cares less about the source material is that, I feel sorry for Miline's supporters that probably hated the Winnie the Pooh movies and shows I grew up and loved lol.
    Besides, I didn't really care about Blood and Honey when it was coming out, since what I always do like what everyone else does is just watch the original Winnie the Pooh movies and shows lol.

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn’t say it’s without anger. Have you seen how angry Rabbit gets at Tigger?

  • @nicholassims9837
    @nicholassims9837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A better adult film Winnie the Pooh is Ted

  • @avacornthelastponybender8583
    @avacornthelastponybender8583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I had a nickel for every live action Winnie the Pooh movie from the late 2010's staring Ewen McGregor, I'd have two nickels
    That's not a lot, but it's weird it happened twice

  • @chrisw5654
    @chrisw5654 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But why is the bear named as he is?
    Other than with the bear, Winnie is a girl's name. Also, why did the father choose "Pooh" after the "Winnie The" when poo is the stuff that comes out of bottoms? What was he thinking with the bear's name?

  • @lifebloodcore2106
    @lifebloodcore2106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:18 bet she didn't even know which state Kalamazoo is in...

  • @samwai3762
    @samwai3762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tom's voice suddenly appearing made me smile some how
    (edit, also eddie's dad, wowie)

  • @SkydreamPony
    @SkydreamPony 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hearing more about the history of Christopher Milne and the ending of Winnie the Pooh just makes me hate that Blood and Honey movie even more...

  • @ShB-o8h
    @ShB-o8h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ©️: Mickey Mouse is in public domain
    Everyone: you telling me we been making fun of him not realizing we can kill him
    Edit: everyone was originally South Park but I decided to edited

  • @adderallfannumberonefanofa3074
    @adderallfannumberonefanofa3074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man marries cousin and shocked when their child comes out inbred

  • @BRACE_The_Ace
    @BRACE_The_Ace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone with Cerebral Palsy myself, I would have loved that movie if they didn't erase her disability

  • @PuffyPinkSpirit
    @PuffyPinkSpirit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:16 This scene is the origins of the name of my upcoming Eddache fan song...

  • @EggsBenAddict
    @EggsBenAddict ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you heard of My Friends Tigger & Pooh? It's got Chlöe Grace Moretz in it!