why are y’all losing your mind of what he thinks? imagine giving a guy like nick so much power over you that you get pressed because he doesn’t have jordan number one.
I think both MJ and Bron fans do that nonsense. They'll degrade one for not winning early on but then excuse other one because they didn't have help and/or faced a championship level team.
@@brando_05 fact. I was on Facebook yesterday making that same point. Kobe is my personal goat it’s an emotion thing he made me want to play. However Put down someone else’s career to lift him up. His work should speak for itself.
Nick skip stephen a rob parker shannon sharpe max kellerman the list goes on ....most of national sports media in fs1 and espn is cancereous for the discourse
From 1984-85 to 97-98, MJ played 11 full seasons. In those 11 seasons, won 6 championships, 2 three peats, 3x steals leader,DPOY, 10 scoring titles while leading the league in total point in that 11th one. Just insane.
And was first team defense 9 times had multiple seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks 2 Olympic Gold medals. Highest PER ever regular season and playoff. Highest point per game ever regular season and playoff. Highest win shares ever.
This is a bad take because of you put Lebron in Jordan’s era he would’ve had 10 rings … the competition JORDAN faced was nothing compared to Lebrons competition… simple facts the difference is that Lebron failed at the biggest stage and for some reason JORDAN failing in the playoffs isn’t a fair argument…
Nick's biggest issue is that he put Magic at 4th and absolutely praised him, but then Nick had to ignore that same point with Kareem. How did Kareem get 6 championships? Magic.
How many magic won without Kareem and how many did Kareem win without magic? Exactly yall let the bs fool u, only reason Kareem didn't win mvp in those 4 finals was because magic had the look and stern was in the process of becoming commissioner and taking the nba in a different direction. Kareem had the stats and was undoubtedly the best player on the court in those games he just didn't have the friendly face to sell.
Kareem only wins 6 with magic by his side. Purely speculation on my part, but when you have a top 5 all time player, I’m sure that would help CONSIDERABLY!!! Nick was so biased, the credibility just vanished when he was trying so hard to actually gain any
@@mikemars7888 1988 NBA finals (Worthy Won ‘88 Finals MVP) Magic 21.1 points 5.7 rebounds 13.0 assists on 55|33|86 Shooting Kareem 13.4 points points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 41|00|71 Shooting 1987 NBA finals (Magic Won ‘87 Finals MVP) Magic 26.2 points 8.0 rebounds 13.0 assists on 54|50|96 Shooting Kareem 21.7 points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 51|00|66 Shooting 1982 NBA finals (Magic Won ‘82 Finals MVP) Magic 16.2 points 10.8 rebounds 8.0 assists on 53.3|00|84 Shooting Kareem 21.7 points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 53.1|00|53 Shooting Quit talking out of your ass! Magic was clearly better that Kareem in every way in every finals outside of his rookie year, even when Kareem won finals mvp in 85 magic numbers weren’t far off
“why don’t we talk about jordan *before* he started winning?” in the years before he started winning chips, he averaged 33/6/6/3/1 on 52% shooting in the regular season and 36/7/7/2.5/1 on 50% shooting in the playoffs. in the years after, he was 38-40 -with three years off from professional sports - and averaged 21/6/4/1.5 on shitty wizards teams. but even then, only 11 guys in the nba last year averaged those numbers. even if we take away the jordan ring years, he’s still statically dominant.
You could easily argue MJ was the best player on his teams for longer than Kareem was, and that’s with Kareem having so many more years in the league😂 MJ WAS the Bulls… That’s a claim only a few other guys could potentially claim, only guy that comes to mind with is Lebron where he’s been THE best player on whatever team he’s on potentially the second he stepped into the league, ‘till now.
@@maxpelaez4955 not completely true, the wizards were a 19 win team the year prior to MJ going there, when mj played they went 30-30 but mj didnt even start the last 7 games because by the time he returned from injury they were out of the playoff hunt so in games he started the wizards were 27-26. So prior to MJ getting injured the wizards were a .500 team then they went 7-15 without him. And those 7 he came off the bench they went 3-4. So no with a healthy mj they were a +10 more win team through the first 55 games then the total prior season. With lebron playing the lakers were only 25-31. They played similar number of games and MJ had more wins with a worse team. Even if you add the 7 games he came off the bench thats still a 30-30 record, with Kwame Brown... lebron was 25-31 with Westbrook and a few games with Anthony Davis. It's not close bro
Skip is also a very solid analyst if he's not talking about the cowboys LeBron or any other things he's biased towards, he always uses stats and a lot more context when talking about other teams and players
Nick INTENTIONALLY matched up Kareem and Jordan to get LeBron AWAY from the discussion because if LeBron was inserted into THAT SAME DEBATE with Jordan and Kareem by Nick logic he would have been EASILY 3rd 🤷🏾♂️
@Tonio5100 'Nick INTENTIONALLY matched up Kareem and Jordan to get LeBron AWAY from the discussion because if LeBron was inserted into THAT SAME DEBATE with Jordan and Kareem by Nick logic he would have been EASILY 3rd 🤷🏾♂" This guy gets it! I was telling everyone that this was a smokescreen to elevate LeBron. He'll gas up Kareem and when LeBron passes Kareem's all-time scoring record he can then come back and go "See LeBron just passed Kareem's record! This Makes LeBron greater than Kareem AND MJ!!" He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's even admitted multiple times that Kareem is his GOAT. Using this deceptive tactic, his two favorite players can be spoken into existence as 1 and 2.
@@legendarywiimaster Kareem has MORE titles MORE MVPs MORE points MORE rebounds MORE blocks MORE all defense teams and ties LeBron with 1st team all NBA...... HOW does LeBron beat him again 🤔
@@Tonio5100 funny because LeBron has two less years and is still about to beat Kareem’s scoring record, LeBron has more finals MVPS and Kareem played in the weakest era (70s) and he only got one title there. By the way Kareem is a center of course he has more blocks and rebounds. Also, LeBron’s playoff numbers are even more impressive than Kareem. Kareem got carried for his last two titles because his playoff numbers were pedestrian at best. When the Big O went down Kareem struggled to get past the first round meanwhile LeBron got the Cavs all the way to the finals in 2007. Also, LeBron has won in the west and the east, which knocks out the weak east argument for LeBron. Also, of course you left out the fact that despite Kareem has two years on LeBron they tie in All-star games. Also, LeBron has more All-NBA teams in general but you left that out. Now what’s your rebuttal? Causal
The worst thing about Nick Wright is, he makes people like me and you, who respect the past greats, he makes us slander legends like Kareem, to prove his rhetoric wrong. Kareem doesn’t deserve this, but Nick Wright forced it to be done.
People do talk about Jordan's first 6 seasons where he lost and failed to win a chip.... he had zero help... took him the same six years it took LeBron to win his first chip, difference was Jordan was the most dominant player in the league from his first season. Bird called him God in gym shorts when he dropped 60 on bird in the garden as a rookie. The league has never seen anything close to Jordan both before and since. Jordan was a beast his first 6 years. And as soon as he got a decent allstar in Pippin he won 6 chips. Look at Jordan's team. Zero help outside pippin. And in comparison look how many all stars and top 5 top 10 players Bron has stacked his team with and still lost more than he's won.
@Yo Momma you know nothing bud. Weak lol. Compared to today's league where all they do is jack up 3 pointers and play zero defense and flop and zero physical play. Ya you should stop talking. The ratings and viewership say it all. Jordan's first round game one play off series had more viewership that any of Lebrons Finals wins or losses. Nobody watches the NBA anymore because it is soft and unwatchable, all they watch are highlights.
@Yo Momma nobody is out to change your opinion. You clearly just don't know basketball. And yes Jordan couldn't do it by himself, getting closelined and knocked to the floor with hard found and physical play which none of Lebrons Era had to endure. And yes the GOAT needed a little bit of help. Name me a player who didn't need some help. Because LeBron has had the most help out of any of the top 20 NBA players and he's lost more than any of them. LeBron doesn't even play on a team of he isn't paired with top 10 players. At no point was pippin ever a top 10 player. Pippin was a regular all star level player who played good defense. Name the rest of Jordan's team, all scrubs and role players. And jordan got it done while facing Double teams and triple teams every single night. Players like LeBron don't even face double teams because they stack their team with 3 other top ten players and 7 other all stars so you can't even send a double or guys have wide open high percentage shots. You just don't know basketball so keep your opinion and have a good day
@Yo Momma awe poor baby, you reply to my comment then get scared when you have no facts to support being a LeBron fanboy . LeBron isn't even over Duncan bud. It's Jordan 1st, Kobe 2nd, Magic 3rd, Kareem 4th, Wilt 5th, Duncan 6th, LeBron 7th.... and he's lucky to even be there.... all the times he's lost and choked in the finals stains his legacy... crying and stacking all his teams and then still failing to make the playoffs last year. Losing to the Mavs in just the worst meltdown of any superstar. Getting outplayed by a role player in Jason Terry. Scoring 8 points in a finals game and then running off the court to cry.... you can keep your love for the guy who has had the most help and still lost the most out of any of the greats. All while playing in an Era of zero defense and never getting double teamed and still he can't padd his stats to compare to what Jordan did in 13 healthy seasons. I will keep writing you as much as I like bud, and you are free to ignore or reply back.
You bring a specific type of commentary (your logic is consistent). You don't change the rules for certain players. Everyone is measured the same way. We need more of this.
By Nick Wright's logic, I'm the GOAT because in another life in another universe I dominated day care, pre-school, elementary, AAU, secondary, post secondary, Olympic and the NBA basketball for 45 years, avg. 40/12/12. Then I went to the BIG 3 and went really crazy......
Nick is smart, he knew he had to put Kareem at #2, because the only way anyone could argue Lebron > MJ is longevity. So him ranking those two as the #1 and #2 is at least logically consistent since Nick Wright clearly values longevity higher than most.
@@Abbad1579 Yeah that goes against his line of reasoning completely lol. But luckily it doesn't get nearly as much attention as his Lebron and Kareem takes.
Funniest part..and you didn’t even catch this..When he talked about Kareem and MJ 2nd years..he conveniently didn’t mention Lebron didn’t make the playoffs at all his first 2 years lol
Actually if you use all of Kareem's supposed advantage (according to Nick and only Nick) over Jordan to weigh over Lebron, That will also hold true. He only explain why he put Kareem over Jordan. But he didnt exactly explain he put Lebron over the both of them.
Great video. Unfortunately, you’re assuming Nick’s interested in objective, consistent analysis. I believe Nick is actually engaged in propaganda for the “LeBronGOAT” party.
Jordan's entire career has been dissected from losses to triumphs.....it's all out there! I don't get why mfs act like the media hides MJ's struggles when he himself never did at any point lol it's been countless documentaries on the Bulls and MJ since the early 90's chronicling his and his team rise from the bottom of the eastern conference to what they became. The difference between MJ and everyone else is the fact that once he and the bulls started winning they did it in a fashion that we haven't seen till this day they 3 repeated twice all the while him statistically individually continue to do amazing things on the court. What some of these young generation don't understand is that Kareem along with a lot of the media was hating on MJ saying he may lead the league in scoring and do all this statistical dominating but he can't win a championship being the leading scorer in the league and all and he proved them wrong six times over and then spectacular fashion. No other player was as dominant as MJ that's facts his whole career is out there for people who want to try to dissect it and say he wasn't that great is out there the numbers don't lie and it's Play always matched his numbers
Fist time I've come across you and it took me 2 minutes to subscribe! Love the way you articulate points and do not have to put players down to to get your content across. I look forward to your take on the upcoming season. You may just be my new favorite show!😊
These GOAT conversations have to stop unless somehow LeBron wins another finals and finals MVP. Even then, most people will still have Jordan. It is what it is. You can have whoever be your GOAT idc anymore.
@@LetMeEatDem when comparing resumes, MJ doesn't have that huge of a blemish that you can blame losing a finals being up 2-1 despite being the favorite and the other team missing their 2nd leading scorer. Add to the fact that the biggest reason you lost was because you failed to even score your expected amount, but you also were burned, consistently on defense by their undersized guards jason Terry and jj barea despite being touted as "can guard 1 through 5". MJ isn't perfect but he has nothing even close to that kind of failure.
Great breakdown fam...liked and subscribed. 👍...we need more honest content...like this. They should ban Nick Wrong for this borderline unethical bs...because people actually start to believe his lies..
This guy is one of the most naturally funny guys I’m aware of. I constantly find myself dying laughing watching this channel and whenever that happens, I can never figure out exactly why I’m laughing. It’s just his delivery I think.
Don't know how Nick Wright can put Kareem ahead of MJ but then put Lebron ahead of Kareem. If you are going to use longevity to put Kareem ahead of MJ, then you should use the same argument to put Kareem ahead of Lebron. Lebron may overtake Kareem overall in terms of longevity, but he hasn't done it yet.
I get your thought process but i feel LeBrons longevity of maintaining elite numbers exceeds Kareem’s, which would slot Kareem 3rd in this debate. Personally tho, i have kobe 3rd because as a kid, i grew up watching him, despite the fact that Kareem has the better resume.
@@Eztyc I can understand putting Lebron ahead of Kareem, but I think they are very close. (With Michael being ahead of both of them). Kareem was also great for a long time, but he did have Magic to help for that latter part of his career. Kobe was a great player but sometimes I think he was a little too alpha. I appreciate his willingness to take the last shot, but he wasn't very efficient. I actually have Duncan ahead of Kobe, simply because he was so good for so long. Seeing Popovich before and after Duncan, one could argue that Duncan was more important to Greg's success than most people realized. If there is a knock on Duncan, it's his lack of back-to-back championships. The one thing that Kobe has on him.
I love basketball media, anytime I’m bored and need something to listen to they never miss, yes they might be wrong and say some outrageous things but they’re pure entertainment😂
Longevity has to count for something..Are you kidding me Kareem played for 20 straight years without the training technology load management etc of today's game...Longevity has to count for something!
A better start and finish to a career, does not a better career make. Give PRIME Kareem MJ’s First few Bulls teams, he ain’t taking them NOWHERE!!!! Those teams were terrible. Not every all-time great is fortunate to be in a good situation in the beginning of their career. Kareem had Magic at the very end, good god… Nick was trying to make himself an objective voice, didn’t even bother watching the final 3 videos of his rankings because of how poor and biased his opinions became when comparing MJ and Kareem, you just lose so much credibility when the rest of the list already had some questionable takes to begin with.
The fact he has LUKA over kawhi and James harden is crazy and the fact that LUKA is that high or even on this list is crazy but in terms of Jordan vs Kareem I think Jordan was better his peak one of the best of all time great on offense great on defense and he one of the greatest playoff performers of all time
Jordan at age 40 wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. Yet, before he got injured the previous year, the Wizards were not only on pace to make them, but to also land in the 4-6 seed range.
You know what I’m just going to go ahead and assume he doesn’t believe what he’s saying now that he wants to bring up high school. After hearing his point he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. So now I’m not gonna treat this video as a serious thing. I’m gonna treat it as someone doing things for bits. Nick Wright knows damn well what he’s doing
Everyone mad about Jordan’s spot but I’m really flabbergasted that Anthony Davis is over Dwight Howard. People forgot how dominant he was and the accolades. Plus Tim Duncan order shaq, Hakeem, and bird. ESPN needs to drug this nick and Stephen A smith
I wish I got a 7 figure income to be dumb. Also Michael Jordan was NOT cut from his high school team. That’s a myth. He wanted to play varsity as a sophomore and sophomores were not allowed to play varsity at his high school
Someone needs to sit Nick down and have a serious chat with him, he's meant to be a professional analyst and he comes away with takes like this. Hope he gets the help he so clearly needs
Nick wrong always lies about MJ and kobe because he's an insecure lebron stan. Nothing wrong with being a lebron fan but he straight up lies to make his points and has no understanding of the game outside reading numbers.
I agree with the media awards part, but completely excluding playoff success seems off to me. Actually getting it done is part of what matters and at least the player in question objectively earned it.
@@benjaminan1183 not saying removing all playoff success but you should consider a ring a team accomplishment more instead of it’s just this player carried his team to a ring
The most OVERRATED one is LeBron. The East was weak as hell. Literally most years there was only 3 50+ winning teams. Boston was the only real threat and they always beat em. Dwight Howard, D Rose, D Wade and Bosh (Arguably PG13) was the only prime superstars in the east and he literally didn't win until...we know LeBron's stats is crazy. He was one of a kind physically/athletically, an all time great and his ball usage is like solo Westbrook on the Thunder. That and all the money spent to maintain durability. I give em props for the dedication to his physical health, but everybody not as fortunate. Bron is All time top tier but his comp to get to the Finals compared to other greats. ESPN definitely helped his legacy too.
Can't say that LeBron played played in a era all teams had 3 stars or more the top teams the 90's all teams only had 1 but the bulls who had 4 and the jazz who had 2 plus the east Jordan made the playoffs with a losing record every year before pippen came in the 80's so I disagree but I'm not saying either is the best just being objective
Dude, those PG13 Pacers were legit. You can't forget them. Seriously think those Pacers teams could have beaten the Spurs as they matched up really well with them.
@@Jkev24 ....second best player was lance Stevenson. Arguably David West...that ain't legit compared to the Spurs, Lakers, Memphis, Dallas, Suns, Utah teams. Pacers would barely make the playoffs in the West
@@countryrah Which team in the East had 3 stars? Or even 2? Besides the Celtics who he couldn't beat until he team hoped to Miami. Maybe the Bulls but ehh.. overall that conference was light. And his stats look crazy becuz of all those ez playoff runs and durability. He would've played less games in the West and less stats.
The same reason the media doesnt talk about Lebron before he went to Miami and to be honest ,If you really talked about Mj accolades before he start winning ..it would just widen the gap
The biggest issue with arguing Kareem over MJ is then you have to argue Kareem over Lebron based on Nick Wright’s criteria. He is just trying to chase clout being a Jordan hater.
@@xcbaby123 yes but key word, little. He's a little bit of both, longevity, but not impressive longevity as lebron, and winning, but not as impressive winning as Jordan. Honestly after seeing this I think it's clear Kareem is 3rd, lebron 2nd, and MJ 1st with no real debate between the 3 when you just look at the facts and the context of those facts.
I listened to his entire list of top 50. You can tell he’s tryin to prop up players lebron has beaten or records lebron has broke or may break (all time points). The list was pretty much “heres 49 reasons lebron is the best player ever”.
why is we still having this debate lebron is a great player yes but he isn't top 3 alltime he is top 6 or 7 alltime kobe is over lebron let's stop this lebron jordan debate
Lol! 1:27 “Kareem at 40 yrs old averaged 22 pts a game IN THE FINALS! And then at 41 yrs old…” This is where Nick likes to hide stats from you. You would think Kareem averaged a bunch again. But Nick eases over to another subject. ‘Kareem hit 2 free throws late!’ You know why Nick quickly switched from PPG to 2 FTs? Because Kareem’s finals average in one year went from 22 PPG to 13 PPG. Kareem is one of the all time greats but he won 5 rings with the Lakers and had 1 finals MVP. Magic won 3 and the other 1 went to Worthy. Kareem wasn’t even the second best player on his own team in some finals. He was still a big piece but got old like anybody else on the planet. Lebron is one of the greats too but he can’t even make the playoffs now
The fact that these people get paid to have casual ass opinions is BRAAAAZZZZY. I could hear better basketball arguments and opinions from my local barbershop.
Just to add my 2 cents, in 72-73 Wilt Chamberlain played all 82 games and lead the league in rebounds, but didn't make this list for some strange reason!! 2022-1972 = the last 50 years lol..Wilt not top 50 looks underlie ridiculous period!! 🤷🏿♂💯
"high school and college doesnt count, but lets talk about it" lets talk about how dennis smith jr had the best high school mixtape ever too.., lets also talk about how melo won more college titles than lebron
Tbf, he should have at least 3 Fmvp. That first one given to Magic wasn't deserved. Also I do think Fmvp is a bit overrated. I think whoever was the best throughout the entire playoff run should get the trophy instead.
The thing that separated Jordan from everybody else isn't the 6 championships. It's the 6 Finals MVPs. Steph Curry has four rings but only 1 Finals MVP.
@Beery I’m not saying they were able to afford another superstar but they were able to afford good depth that others couldn’t dork. If Pippen was paid properly theirs no way could afford kukoc, rodman and harper.
Nick isn't even comparing the same stats against each other. "Jordan averaged 20 points during the season at 40. Kareem averaged 22 points in a playoff series Kareem is better!!"
Facts without Context: Lebron NEVER won a single college game! Significantly less than Kareem and MJ.
Brilliant.
Spot on mate
Damn…u got a point
You can’t be serious…
@@PaulWWhitfieldJr that’s the point 💀
Somebody with the last name wright, being wrong this much is crazy😭
It's like going to John Waters house and all of his plants are dead.
The w is for wrong 💀
Legendary comment, goat
Don't call him nick wrong for nothing
why are y’all losing your mind of what he thinks? imagine giving a guy like nick so much power over you that you get pressed because he doesn’t have jordan number one.
When LBJ gets the all-time scoring title Nick is never gonna shut up
And no one is going to listen anyway
turnover numero uno also
Its such a stupid fucking stat I wish they removed all time numbers
his whole take on kareem is literally just to set up his lebron narrative 😂
@@butchapolinar2305 yeah but that’s like criticizing Kobe for being number one in missed shots
Nick: “We need to talk about MJ’s whole career”
Also Nick: “If you get rid of Lebron’s first 8 years, he is the GOAT”
Facts but even if we remove his first 8 years his case would still not hold up to Mj career at all
Not what he says but nice try man
@@christopherpenn9283 He said this when he was with Colin. Nick said this around 2016 or 2017.
I think both MJ and Bron fans do that nonsense. They'll degrade one for not winning early on but then excuse other one because they didn't have help and/or faced a championship level team.
@@brando_05 fact. I was on Facebook yesterday making that same point. Kobe is my personal goat it’s an emotion thing he made me want to play. However Put down someone else’s career to lift him up. His work should speak for itself.
Nick has done Irreparable damage to basketball discourse
Nick CONTINUES to do that.
Nick skip stephen a rob parker shannon sharpe max kellerman the list goes on ....most of national sports media in fs1 and espn is cancereous for the discourse
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yall so dramatic.
@@xcwilliams7980 nah fam Nick been working hard now FOR YEARS to be this destructive to basketball narratives!
Nothing skip and others haven’t yall simply don’t like nick because he likes lebron. Sports analyst are supposed to have different opinions
Nick wright is the reason they call us Bron fans Bronsexuals. Bro arguments against MJ be hella contradictory sometimes.
Every time.
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From 1984-85 to 97-98, MJ played 11 full seasons. In those 11 seasons, won 6 championships, 2 three peats, 3x steals leader,DPOY, 10 scoring titles while leading the league in total point in that 11th one. Just insane.
And was first team defense 9 times had multiple seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks 2 Olympic Gold medals. Highest PER ever regular season and playoff. Highest point per game ever regular season and playoff. Highest win shares ever.
@@mixedpleasure4324 yup
Don’t for get Michael Jordan 8 playoff scoring titles which is an NBA record.
@@timmaz24s even better
This is a bad take because of you put Lebron in Jordan’s era he would’ve had 10 rings … the competition JORDAN faced was nothing compared to Lebrons competition… simple facts the difference is that Lebron failed at the biggest stage and for some reason JORDAN failing in the playoffs isn’t a fair argument…
Death, taxes, Nick Wright saying something stupid about MJ.
The trifecta is complete.
Weekend observations?
What else is new?
You forgot about the sun rising in the east, gravity makes things fall, and Skip Bayless saying equally idiotic things.
@@SuperThumpasaurus Skip can be a funny troll. Nick is actually serious
Nick's biggest issue is that he put Magic at 4th and absolutely praised him, but then Nick had to ignore that same point with Kareem. How did Kareem get 6 championships? Magic.
How many magic won without Kareem and how many did Kareem win without magic? Exactly yall let the bs fool u, only reason Kareem didn't win mvp in those 4 finals was because magic had the look and stern was in the process of becoming commissioner and taking the nba in a different direction. Kareem had the stats and was undoubtedly the best player on the court in those games he just didn't have the friendly face to sell.
Kareem had a ring before he played with magic tho
@@mikemars7888 Kareem won 1 championship with Magic, but again he had Oscar Robinson. He didn't win with a nobody lol.
Kareem only wins 6 with magic by his side. Purely speculation on my part, but when you have a top 5 all time player, I’m sure that would help CONSIDERABLY!!! Nick was so biased, the credibility just vanished when he was trying so hard to actually gain any
@@mikemars7888
1988 NBA finals (Worthy Won ‘88 Finals MVP)
Magic 21.1 points 5.7 rebounds 13.0 assists on 55|33|86 Shooting
Kareem 13.4 points points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 41|00|71 Shooting
1987 NBA finals (Magic Won ‘87 Finals MVP)
Magic 26.2 points 8.0 rebounds 13.0 assists on 54|50|96 Shooting
Kareem 21.7 points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 51|00|66 Shooting
1982 NBA finals (Magic Won ‘82 Finals MVP)
Magic 16.2 points 10.8 rebounds 8.0 assists on 53.3|00|84 Shooting
Kareem 21.7 points 7.3 rebounds 0.8 assists on 53.1|00|53 Shooting
Quit talking out of your ass! Magic was clearly better that Kareem in every way in every finals outside of his rookie year, even when Kareem won finals mvp in 85 magic numbers weren’t far off
“why don’t we talk about jordan *before* he started winning?”
in the years before he started winning chips, he averaged 33/6/6/3/1 on 52% shooting in the regular season and 36/7/7/2.5/1 on 50% shooting in the playoffs.
in the years after, he was 38-40 -with three years off from professional sports - and averaged 21/6/4/1.5 on shitty wizards teams. but even then, only 11 guys in the nba last year averaged those numbers.
even if we take away the jordan ring years, he’s still statically dominant.
Those shitty wizards team still had more wins than the lakers this year and Kwame Brown was his center, just saying 🤷
You could easily argue MJ was the best player on his teams for longer than Kareem was, and that’s with Kareem having so many more years in the league😂 MJ WAS the Bulls…
That’s a claim only a few other guys could potentially claim, only guy that comes to mind with is Lebron where he’s been THE best player on whatever team he’s on potentially the second he stepped into the league, ‘till now.
@@themaverick1898 that is just cause they played in a shitty east. That team had two good players
@@maxpelaez4955 not completely true, the wizards were a 19 win team the year prior to MJ going there, when mj played they went 30-30 but mj didnt even start the last 7 games because by the time he returned from injury they were out of the playoff hunt so in games he started the wizards were 27-26. So prior to MJ getting injured the wizards were a .500 team then they went 7-15 without him. And those 7 he came off the bench they went 3-4. So no with a healthy mj they were a +10 more win team through the first 55 games then the total prior season. With lebron playing the lakers were only 25-31. They played similar number of games and MJ had more wins with a worse team. Even if you add the 7 games he came off the bench thats still a 30-30 record, with Kwame Brown... lebron was 25-31 with Westbrook and a few games with Anthony Davis. It's not close bro
@@themaverick1898 L plus demar is basically jordan in today's game.
Nick Wright has done more damage to basketball discussion than skip bayless. At least everybody knows skips a troll
Skip is also a very solid analyst if he's not talking about the cowboys LeBron or any other things he's biased towards, he always uses stats and a lot more context when talking about other teams and players
@@Sqeaky6969 he said Zion was a better shooter than Luka
@@benomerovic5515 Ayo What???
@@benomerovic5515 ... sorry what?
Lol. Nah
Nick Wright one of the worst things to ever happen to basketball discourse
he's awful
bro just copied the top comment
Nick INTENTIONALLY matched up Kareem and Jordan to get LeBron AWAY from the discussion because if LeBron was inserted into THAT SAME DEBATE with Jordan and Kareem by Nick logic he would have been EASILY 3rd 🤷🏾♂️
@Tonio5100 'Nick INTENTIONALLY matched up Kareem and Jordan to get LeBron AWAY from the discussion because if LeBron was inserted into THAT SAME DEBATE with Jordan and Kareem by Nick logic he would have been EASILY 3rd 🤷🏾♂"
This guy gets it! I was telling everyone that this was a smokescreen to elevate LeBron. He'll gas up Kareem and when LeBron passes Kareem's all-time scoring record he can then come back and go "See LeBron just passed Kareem's record! This Makes LeBron greater than Kareem AND MJ!!" He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's even admitted multiple times that Kareem is his GOAT. Using this deceptive tactic, his two favorite players can be spoken into existence as 1 and 2.
Exactly
That’s BS. LeBron beats Kareem
@@legendarywiimaster Kareem has MORE titles MORE MVPs MORE points MORE rebounds MORE blocks MORE all defense teams and ties LeBron with 1st team all NBA...... HOW does LeBron beat him again 🤔
@@Tonio5100 funny because LeBron has two less years and is still about to beat Kareem’s scoring record, LeBron has more finals MVPS and Kareem played in the weakest era (70s) and he only got one title there. By the way Kareem is a center of course he has more blocks and rebounds. Also, LeBron’s playoff numbers are even more impressive than Kareem. Kareem got carried for his last two titles because his playoff numbers were pedestrian at best. When the Big O went down Kareem struggled to get past the first round meanwhile LeBron got the Cavs all the way to the finals in 2007. Also, LeBron has won in the west and the east, which knocks out the weak east argument for LeBron. Also, of course you left out the fact that despite Kareem has two years on LeBron they tie in All-star games. Also, LeBron has more All-NBA teams in general but you left that out. Now what’s your rebuttal? Causal
The worst thing about Nick Wright is, he makes people like me and you, who respect the past greats, he makes us slander legends like Kareem, to prove his rhetoric wrong. Kareem doesn’t deserve this, but Nick Wright forced it to be done.
Kareem is top 5
But MJ is the goat 🐐
@@jakepophal985 Kareem can be ranked anywhere from 2-5 honestly
@@here4boxing I have him at five
This sentiment is so nice. Like KAJ certainly does deserve more respect than just being a talking point in pointless goat discussions.
His argument for Kareem over Michael doesn’t stand up for Lebron over either one of them
That’s BS
Nick wright being wrong again. What else is new?
The thing I hate about his list is while his main point for his list is longevity he has magic over Duncan and Kobe, and even worst has Luka 20th
I think that Jordan was pretty consistent his whole career he played at a very high level his whole career
People do talk about Jordan's first 6 seasons where he lost and failed to win a chip.... he had zero help... took him the same six years it took LeBron to win his first chip, difference was Jordan was the most dominant player in the league from his first season. Bird called him God in gym shorts when he dropped 60 on bird in the garden as a rookie. The league has never seen anything close to Jordan both before and since. Jordan was a beast his first 6 years. And as soon as he got a decent allstar in Pippin he won 6 chips. Look at Jordan's team. Zero help outside pippin. And in comparison look how many all stars and top 5 top 10 players Bron has stacked his team with and still lost more than he's won.
@Yo Momma you know nothing bud. Weak lol. Compared to today's league where all they do is jack up 3 pointers and play zero defense and flop and zero physical play. Ya you should stop talking. The ratings and viewership say it all. Jordan's first round game one play off series had more viewership that any of Lebrons Finals wins or losses. Nobody watches the NBA anymore because it is soft and unwatchable, all they watch are highlights.
@Yo Momma nobody is out to change your opinion. You clearly just don't know basketball. And yes Jordan couldn't do it by himself, getting closelined and knocked to the floor with hard found and physical play which none of Lebrons Era had to endure. And yes the GOAT needed a little bit of help. Name me a player who didn't need some help. Because LeBron has had the most help out of any of the top 20 NBA players and he's lost more than any of them. LeBron doesn't even play on a team of he isn't paired with top 10 players. At no point was pippin ever a top 10 player. Pippin was a regular all star level player who played good defense. Name the rest of Jordan's team, all scrubs and role players. And jordan got it done while facing Double teams and triple teams every single night. Players like LeBron don't even face double teams because they stack their team with 3 other top ten players and 7 other all stars so you can't even send a double or guys have wide open high percentage shots. You just don't know basketball so keep your opinion and have a good day
@Yo Momma awe poor baby, you reply to my comment then get scared when you have no facts to support being a LeBron fanboy . LeBron isn't even over Duncan bud. It's Jordan 1st, Kobe 2nd, Magic 3rd, Kareem 4th, Wilt 5th, Duncan 6th, LeBron 7th.... and he's lucky to even be there.... all the times he's lost and choked in the finals stains his legacy... crying and stacking all his teams and then still failing to make the playoffs last year. Losing to the Mavs in just the worst meltdown of any superstar. Getting outplayed by a role player in Jason Terry. Scoring 8 points in a finals game and then running off the court to cry.... you can keep your love for the guy who has had the most help and still lost the most out of any of the greats. All while playing in an Era of zero defense and never getting double teamed and still he can't padd his stats to compare to what Jordan did in 13 healthy seasons. I will keep writing you as much as I like bud, and you are free to ignore or reply back.
@Yo Momma it’s pretty obvious you know absolutely nothing about basketball..
Don't forget Rodman...
Context is like kryptonite to Nick Wright.
You bring a specific type of commentary (your logic is consistent). You don't change the rules for certain players. Everyone is measured the same way. We need more of this.
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By Nick Wright's logic, I'm the GOAT because in another life in another universe I dominated day care, pre-school, elementary, AAU, secondary, post secondary, Olympic and the NBA basketball for 45 years, avg. 40/12/12. Then I went to the BIG 3 and went really crazy......
Why are you downplaying your 2years in Greece as EuroLeague MVP?
What about that 300 point games vs Kuzma and the Shanghai Sharks
Nick is smart, he knew he had to put Kareem at #2, because the only way anyone could argue Lebron > MJ is longevity. So him ranking those two as the #1 and #2 is at least logically consistent since Nick Wright clearly values longevity higher than most.
Ok but he has Luka in his top 20
@@Abbad1579 Yeah that goes against his line of reasoning completely lol. But luckily it doesn't get nearly as much attention as his Lebron and Kareem takes.
I'm not the biggest bball fan but this argument seem so stupid, judging individuals play and accomplishments from different eras in a team sport....
@@Abbad1579 Nick Wright always be saying he’s Luka’s dad
The minute he brought up Pre-Youth he automatically lost the debate THATS just ridiculous 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Funniest part..and you didn’t even catch this..When he talked about Kareem and MJ 2nd years..he conveniently didn’t mention Lebron didn’t make the playoffs at all his first 2 years lol
I don’t even watch basketball just here to support bubble bass
Bro…. LMFAOOOOO
"You outta pocket"
"You outta pocket"
I’ll bubble bass dat ass foo! Even if they keep removing my comment
Those "analysts", they feed on controversy. They can't be taken seriously. Good job on your analyses!!! I just subscribed! Cheers!!
Actually if you use all of Kareem's supposed advantage (according to Nick and only Nick) over Jordan to weigh over Lebron, That will also hold true. He only explain why he put Kareem over Jordan. But he didnt exactly explain he put Lebron over the both of them.
Because LeFlop probably pays him to. . .
Well we know Nick Wright has LeBron at 1, so he was asked to explain Kareem. Also Nick values longevity
Great video. Unfortunately, you’re assuming Nick’s interested in objective, consistent analysis. I believe Nick is actually engaged in propaganda for the “LeBronGOAT” party.
Jordan's entire career has been dissected from losses to triumphs.....it's all out there! I don't get why mfs act like the media hides MJ's struggles when he himself never did at any point lol it's been countless documentaries on the Bulls and MJ since the early 90's chronicling his and his team rise from the bottom of the eastern conference to what they became. The difference between MJ and everyone else is the fact that once he and the bulls started winning they did it in a fashion that we haven't seen till this day they 3 repeated twice all the while him statistically individually continue to do amazing things on the court. What some of these young generation don't understand is that Kareem along with a lot of the media was hating on MJ saying he may lead the league in scoring and do all this statistical dominating but he can't win a championship being the leading scorer in the league and all and he proved them wrong six times over and then spectacular fashion. No other player was as dominant as MJ that's facts his whole career is out there for people who want to try to dissect it and say he wasn't that great is out there the numbers don't lie and it's Play always matched his numbers
Fist time I've come across you and it took me 2 minutes to subscribe! Love the way you articulate points and do not have to put players down to to get your content across. I look forward to your take on the upcoming season. You may just be my new favorite show!😊
Studio execs sat Nick Wright down, looked him dead in the eye and said “Ay these ratings just ain’t it dawg, do sum” ☠️
These GOAT conversations have to stop unless somehow LeBron wins another finals and finals MVP. Even then, most people will still have Jordan. It is what it is. You can have whoever be your GOAT idc anymore.
Unless lebron gets a time machine and undoes his disappearance act in 2011 he can't be the goat.
@@themaverick1898 if that’s your criteria, all the power to you.
@@themaverick1898 forgot about the 2007 choke
@@LetMeEatDem when comparing resumes, MJ doesn't have that huge of a blemish that you can blame losing a finals being up 2-1 despite being the favorite and the other team missing their 2nd leading scorer. Add to the fact that the biggest reason you lost was because you failed to even score your expected amount, but you also were burned, consistently on defense by their undersized guards jason Terry and jj barea despite being touted as "can guard 1 through 5". MJ isn't perfect but he has nothing even close to that kind of failure.
Great breakdown fam...liked and subscribed. 👍...we need more honest content...like this. They should ban Nick Wrong for this borderline unethical bs...because people actually start to believe his lies..
This guy is one of the most naturally funny guys I’m aware of. I constantly find myself dying laughing watching this channel and whenever that happens, I can never figure out exactly why I’m laughing. It’s just his delivery I think.
Don't know how Nick Wright can put Kareem ahead of MJ but then put Lebron ahead of Kareem.
If you are going to use longevity to put Kareem ahead of MJ, then you should use the same argument to put Kareem ahead of Lebron.
Lebron may overtake Kareem overall in terms of longevity, but he hasn't done it yet.
I get your thought process but i feel LeBrons longevity of maintaining elite numbers exceeds Kareem’s, which would slot Kareem 3rd in this debate.
Personally tho, i have kobe 3rd because as a kid, i grew up watching him, despite the fact that Kareem has the better resume.
@@Eztyc I can understand putting Lebron ahead of Kareem, but I think they are very close. (With Michael being ahead of both of them). Kareem was also great for a long time, but he did have Magic to help for that latter part of his career.
Kobe was a great player but sometimes I think he was a little too alpha. I appreciate his willingness to take the last shot, but he wasn't very efficient.
I actually have Duncan ahead of Kobe, simply because he was so good for so long. Seeing Popovich before and after Duncan, one could argue that Duncan was more important to Greg's success than most people realized. If there is a knock on Duncan, it's his lack of back-to-back championships. The one thing that Kobe has on him.
I love basketball media, anytime I’m bored and need something to listen to they never miss, yes they might be wrong and say some outrageous things but they’re pure entertainment😂
Longevity has to count for something..Are you kidding me Kareem played for 20 straight years without the training technology load management etc of today's game...Longevity has to count for something!
Nah man. It’s genes bro🤣🤣🤣. You have no control over that.
You can instantly tell this video was made without watching the actual countdown list.
why do people watch first things first 😭
A better start and finish to a career, does not a better career make. Give PRIME Kareem MJ’s First few Bulls teams, he ain’t taking them NOWHERE!!!! Those teams were terrible. Not every all-time great is fortunate to be in a good situation in the beginning of their career. Kareem had Magic at the very end, good god…
Nick was trying to make himself an objective voice, didn’t even bother watching the final 3 videos of his rankings because of how poor and biased his opinions became when comparing MJ and Kareem, you just lose so much credibility when the rest of the list already had some questionable takes to begin with.
The fact he has LUKA over kawhi and James harden is crazy and the fact that LUKA is that high or even on this list is crazy but in terms of Jordan vs Kareem I think Jordan was better his peak one of the best of all time great on offense great on defense and he one of the greatest playoff performers of all time
All time or right now
All time
It’s because he is white.
Jordan at age 40 wasn't good enough to make the playoffs.
Yet, before he got injured the previous year, the Wizards were not only on pace to make them, but to also land in the 4-6 seed range.
He should’ve never returned, it damaged his the unassailable mystique
@@andreguerreroAG Not really, considering on some nights he was still cooking players 10+ years his junior, and giving stars work.
They say dumb stuff to get clicks
The wilt disrespect is what really blows my mind
He doesn't count cus it's only of the last 50 years same reason Bill wasn't on that list
@@Sqeaky6969 Kareem’s first championship was more than 50 years ago yet nick still counts it
Okay so Nick, debating MJ and Kareem....leaving bron nowhere close to this debate is probably the smartest thing you've ever done. Grats.
Drake?
LeBron is greater than Kareem
Kareem totally has an argument for GOAT. But I think the dream shake, MJ fadeaway, and Steph 3 were just as unstoppable as the sky hook
All of his colleagues are exhausted of this guy. All day everyday this is all he ever talks about.
You know what I’m just going to go ahead and assume he doesn’t believe what he’s saying now that he wants to bring up high school. After hearing his point he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. So now I’m not gonna treat this video as a serious thing. I’m gonna treat it as someone doing things for bits. Nick Wright knows damn well what he’s doing
Nick Wright made me realize how GOATED Jordan is with his list ngl. Jordan might be better than lebron
*Jordan is better than Lebron
That's something us non casuals have known since 2011
Everyone mad about Jordan’s spot but I’m really flabbergasted that Anthony Davis is over Dwight Howard. People forgot how dominant he was and the accolades. Plus Tim Duncan order shaq, Hakeem, and bird. ESPN needs to drug this nick and Stephen A smith
I wish I got a 7 figure income to be dumb. Also Michael Jordan was NOT cut from his high school team. That’s a myth. He wanted to play varsity as a sophomore and sophomores were not allowed to play varsity at his high school
Someone needs to sit Nick down and have a serious chat with him, he's meant to be a professional analyst and he comes away with takes like this. Hope he gets the help he so clearly needs
1-mj
2-Kareem
3-lebron
Personally
I agree
Guy never had any creditability but whatever creditability he did have he lost it.
Nobody talks about MJ first 6 seasons is because Bron fans don’t talk about his! They only argue his years from Miami until now!
Before Lebron, MJsexuals never talked about the losing years. Nice try.
Kobe scored 60 when he was a kid (he said this in an interview). This must mean he's better than Kareem and therefore the GOAT
I mean he is better than Kareem
@@goatman380 he’s better but not greater
@@ThatGuy-id1eh this video kind make a argument for Kobe being greater than Kareem
@@goatman380 greater mostly comes from records and accolades which Kareem has more of
@@goatman380 better would be more skilled or sumtimes stats
Nick wrong always lies about MJ and kobe because he's an insecure lebron stan. Nothing wrong with being a lebron fan but he straight up lies to make his points and has no understanding of the game outside reading numbers.
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5:10 Wildes is goated for that comment. Why stop at high school, what about when he was 10?
I think we need to stop ranking all time players with team accolades and narrative driven media awards to show how great players were/are
@@GSR-Indictment it was a typo
I agree with the media awards part, but completely excluding playoff success seems off to me. Actually getting it done is part of what matters and at least the player in question objectively earned it.
@@benjaminan1183 not saying removing all playoff success but you should consider a ring a team accomplishment more instead of it’s just this player carried his team to a ring
The most OVERRATED one is LeBron.
The East was weak as hell. Literally most years there was only 3 50+ winning teams.
Boston was the only real threat and they always beat em. Dwight Howard, D Rose, D Wade and Bosh (Arguably PG13) was the only prime superstars in the east and he literally didn't win until...we know
LeBron's stats is crazy. He was one of a kind physically/athletically, an all time great and his ball usage is like solo Westbrook on the Thunder. That and all the money spent to maintain durability. I give em props for the dedication to his physical health, but everybody not as fortunate.
Bron is All time top tier but his comp to get to the Finals compared to other greats. ESPN definitely helped his legacy too.
Can't say that LeBron played played in a era all teams had 3 stars or more the top teams the 90's all teams only had 1 but the bulls who had 4 and the jazz who had 2 plus the east Jordan made the playoffs with a losing record every year before pippen came in the 80's so I disagree but I'm not saying either is the best just being objective
Dude, those PG13 Pacers were legit. You can't forget them.
Seriously think those Pacers teams could have beaten the Spurs as they matched up really well with them.
@Beery yea Duncan rookie year wow and the Lakers with a 19 year old Kobe sure is a great accomplishment I see
@@Jkev24 ....second best player was lance Stevenson. Arguably David West...that ain't legit compared to the Spurs, Lakers, Memphis, Dallas, Suns, Utah teams. Pacers would barely make the playoffs in the West
@@countryrah Which team in the East had 3 stars? Or even 2? Besides the Celtics who he couldn't beat until he team hoped to Miami. Maybe the Bulls but ehh.. overall that conference was light. And his stats look crazy becuz of all those ez playoff runs and durability. He would've played less games in the West and less stats.
Jordan averaged 40+ ppg in the series he got swept coming off injuries 🤦🏿♂️ u doing the same thing as nick
Jordan fans have always been delusional. they can't even see it
Y’all don’t get tired of this debate 😭😭
The same reason the media doesnt talk about Lebron before he went to Miami and to be honest ,If you really talked about Mj accolades before he start winning ..it would just widen the gap
The biggest issue with arguing Kareem over MJ is then you have to argue Kareem over Lebron based on Nick Wright’s criteria. He is just trying to chase clout being a Jordan hater.
Well Kareem is basically like a little bit of what makes MJ and LeBron good
@@xcbaby123 yes but key word, little. He's a little bit of both, longevity, but not impressive longevity as lebron, and winning, but not as impressive winning as Jordan. Honestly after seeing this I think it's clear Kareem is 3rd, lebron 2nd, and MJ 1st with no real debate between the 3 when you just look at the facts and the context of those facts.
@@themaverick1898 Yup
I listened to his entire list of top 50. You can tell he’s tryin to prop up players lebron has beaten or records lebron has broke or may break (all time points). The list was pretty much “heres 49 reasons lebron is the best player ever”.
And yet you will have people say on his podcast doing the list he is objective. Yeah right!
They don’t call him Nick “Always Wrong” Wright for a reason 😂
Dude spittin
why is we still having this debate lebron is a great player yes but he isn't top 3 alltime he is top 6 or 7 alltime kobe is over lebron let's stop this lebron jordan debate
How is 6/10 more impressive than 6/6 🤨🤨🤨💀
ESPECIALLY with only 2 fmvp
Lol! 1:27 “Kareem at 40 yrs old averaged 22 pts a game IN THE FINALS! And then at 41 yrs old…” This is where Nick likes to hide stats from you. You would think Kareem averaged a bunch again. But Nick eases over to another subject. ‘Kareem hit 2 free throws late!’ You know why Nick quickly switched from PPG to 2 FTs? Because Kareem’s finals average in one year went from 22 PPG to 13 PPG. Kareem is one of the all time greats but he won 5 rings with the Lakers and had 1 finals MVP. Magic won 3 and the other 1 went to Worthy. Kareem wasn’t even the second best player on his own team in some finals. He was still a big piece but got old like anybody else on the planet. Lebron is one of the greats too but he can’t even make the playoffs now
2:30 I love how timeless Wes Matthews is, he been playing since the 70s 😅
Two three peats may not ever be done again enough said
The fact that these people get paid to have casual ass opinions is BRAAAAZZZZY. I could hear better basketball arguments and opinions from my local barbershop.
when Low says "once more" you know you he won the debate🐐
Nick wants to be the next Skip
Michael Jordan is becoming underrated
Context matters. Thank you for pointing that out.
The GOAT debate for a team game is really dumb.
Nick is 100% RIGHT
Nick Wright's ascension marked the death of nationally televised basketball discourse
Man really brought up HS and College LMFAOOOOO!
There’s just 1 number one. The Big Dipper . Wilt. He’s greater than a lot of these players combined
Just to add my 2 cents, in 72-73 Wilt Chamberlain played all 82 games and lead the league in rebounds, but didn't make this list for some strange reason!! 2022-1972 = the last 50 years lol..Wilt not top 50 looks underlie ridiculous period!! 🤷🏿♂💯
Of course he's lying about Michael Jordan he is jealous of him
Great breakdown! 1 of the best and logic break downs I've heard.
Damn by the end of the video that nigga Kareem don’t even gotta goat debate anymore.
Ppl always talk about Kareem like he never had a single teammate!
"high school and college doesnt count, but lets talk about it" lets talk about how dennis smith jr had the best high school mixtape ever too.., lets also talk about how melo won more college titles than lebron
I always question how some of these guys made it to where they are
Damn I thought that was Jimmy for a second there.
Tbf, he should have at least 3 Fmvp. That first one given to Magic wasn't deserved.
Also I do think Fmvp is a bit overrated. I think whoever was the best throughout the entire playoff run should get the trophy instead.
Still less than Jordan. Still wasn't the best player in all those championship runs.
In the final analysis, Nick Wright won't even be remembered in sports media history after they finally get rid of him.
6:14 Chris tapped in to Stephen A Smith's dictionary real quick
I wonder who is the worst Nick Wright or Skip Bayless...Nick hates MJ Skip hates Lebron
Got yourself a new sub, I like how you pointed out a lot of the mental gymnastics Nick Wright does when it comes to the goat argument.
The thing that separated Jordan from everybody else isn't the 6 championships. It's the 6 Finals MVPs. Steph Curry has four rings but only 1 Finals MVP.
What about lebron’s four rings and four finals mvps?
What about Pippen being paid pennies , which helped him stack his team compared to everyone else.
@Beery I’m not saying they were able to afford another superstar but they were able to afford good depth that others couldn’t dork. If Pippen was paid properly theirs no way could afford kukoc, rodman and harper.
It's sad how proper analysis has been replaced by "hot takes."
Nick isn't even comparing the same stats against each other. "Jordan averaged 20 points during the season at 40. Kareem averaged 22 points in a playoff series Kareem is better!!"
The funniest part is look at nick wrights co host face while he’s giving his take 😂