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26:25 Because you don't get to result you wanted does not mean you are not a superteam.
A formula one car is still a supercar regardless if it wins or loses.
The 16 cavs are the same as the 84 Celtics they played a super team a bunch and only won once
Do they have a juice wrld concert on there I can’t find it
Y’all don’t bring this much energy to y’all’s podcast. Really gotta work on that communication seems like there’s a lot of underlying issues between y’all when the podcast is going on.
Bsolz dont remember but the blow back that KD got with the "easy titles, they gonna win every year" the heat def had the same rhetoric surrounding them. besides Lakers fans who were high on the 3 peat wave and boston fans the heat were the title favs easily according to popular opinion. no1 wouldve guessed 2011 was gnna happen and thats partly whats so damaging about Brons 2011 finals. people had them winning the title before christmas came lol
No way they put an ad over Jimmy's ad 😂
That was crazy
how solz bout to powercreep seat geek with more seat geek
10/10 placement
I’m sayin solz said we cutting your shit out for ours😂
@@pamoon_ Seat geek 2 bro
A superteam is that "I don't want to play anymore" energy and emotion you have when the kid you're playing pickup with in 4th grade brings his older brother from community college to absolutely destroy you. Granted, I'm 20, but I've only felt that way once.
That’s how I felt when I played against my dad and dude kept going into the post
"EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s why the only recent super team was golden state when they got KD
Would people ever consider the spurs a super team ????
aww, you in your feelings cuz of a decision from another Grown Man?? 😭
shut up lmao. this exactly why the WNBA community is better than the NBA community. they're overall better human beings, and don't pull this childish, immature bs 💀
The worst take ever is claiming Russell Westbrook ISNT averaging a triple double tbh
Nah the worst take is this statement doesn't affect LeBron's legacy
Nahhh the worst statement is saying that steph curry's offense isn't his defense
@@ImStillLandy but Robert Horry Has 7 rings tho
Nah the worst take is russell westbrooks defense isn’t his triple double
@@edppoopsock168 I think you meant to say westbrooks triple is his double.
Isiah Thomas won a championship in 1988-89 as the number 1 option. If that's not in your prime idk what is.
Saying K Love was a fringe all star when he first joined the Cavs is crazy. He was a perennial all star borderline superstar on the wolves so that take is revisionist as hell
It’s not revisionist if we saw how it played out. KLove was just putting up empty stats on a bad team but got to a real contender and wasn’t nearly as impactful as his TWolvez days the Cavs didn’t need him to get to the Finals and win 2 games in 2015 and he didn’t even average 15PPG in the 2016 playoffs and 2018 didn’t average 15PPG what was super about Cavs outside Lebron and Kyrie?
@@Millennium00 are we not accounting his role within the offense? KLove was truly a third wheel w/ LeBron and Kyrie, like Bosh was in Miami. His role significantly changed because of the players he was playing with. Also injuries and age have caught with him as well.
@@kdubbss0583 proving my point even more that the Cavs were not a super team
@@Millennium00 I’m not necessarily arguing the cavs were a super team, more so arguing for Love being the all star people seemingly forgot he was. The original comment of the thread is correct in regards to who Love was before he got traded, because if he was just an average player, the Cavs would have never traded for him.
@@Millennium00 that’s literally revising history
When Harden went to the Nets he was considered a top 5 player. He was right after a season where he averaged 34/7/7 on 63% TS. An absolute superstar, no questions asked. So yeah, Durant, Harden, and Kyrie (just outside the top 10) is an absolute superteam.
Facts just because they failed they stilled where a superteam
@CH Thats cause superteams can fail , ans thats what happens, by definition its just having three definitive super stars at the time
@CH Harden was top 3 in MVP for a good part of the season when KD was down and Kyrie was being Kyrie. The only thing that made them fail was injuries (in the playoffs) and Kyrie's vaccination status. Their on-floor chemistry was great as a trio. The Lakers failed because they were injured, and Russ straight up sucked.
@@2357-l9p russ is not a definitive superstar, neither is Kyrie tbh
he averaged 24/8/10 before the trade too
Love these Long Disect reaction videos. Great to listen to on Car Rides home from work.
Facts
Micheal Jorbum I’m dead😂😂😂
“Retired because no more plumbers to beat”
😂☠️☠️☠️☠️
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Flyc2 it gets better, someone said that if LeBron played in the 90s he would put up:
45 PPG, 15, APG, and 15 RPG
and then they said if Jordan played today he would just be another good player who would put up 25, 7, and 5
These might be the worst takes of all time but did you know Carmelo Anthony screamed out "#$% outta here I got it" when he grabbed a rebound?
man i’m tired of hearing how the cavs weren’t a super team when they traded one of the most hyped FIRST OVERALL PICKS of the last couple decades for a mf that averaged 26 and 12 to become the THIRD OPTION with lebron and kyrie ☠️☠️☠️
how old was kyrie is my first question. My second question is how many 5 point and under games do you think kevin love dropped in the finals
@@afro2674it doesn’t matter how old Kyrie was and how KL underperformed in the finals, the consensus was already that you had Lebron and a great iso scorer and then you’re adding a great rebounding that could score. It’s trying to rewrite history to fit a narrative
Cutting out his promotion for your own promotion is crazy 🤣
For real. I thought SOLZ was about to talk about something else but nah he did the exact same ad read.
Wait, did y’all replace Jimmy’s seat geek ad with your seat geek ad?
Isaiah was definitely in his prime in 1988 but yea 1988 is a good argument. 1996, nah 4/8-5/8 names make sense but the others no there is a huge drop. 2003, 6/8 are legit but but there’s a drop off with AI and it falls off a cliff with Kidd lmao. 1988 is a good example tho. I prolly still give it to 2022 tho tbh if we talkin overall
Also heat and maybe 2017 cavs are lebron’s only superteams
Especially that there are some history revisionism, Dirk, Tmac and Garnett in 2003 don't have that much accomplishment yet, just like Luka and Embiid actually. In the future the 2022 could look even better than it is today, just let Luka, Jokic, Embiid and Giannis showing their prime to everyone and the discussion changed ( because yes half of the 2022 top 8 is not in their prime or will be next season).
KAJ in 88 is a joke tho, man is 42 yo
@@paquinraino8180 the pussies in today’s league are afraid of getting champagne in the eyes 🤣….they get softer every year not to mention that most of the stars today can’t even go 3 possessions without blatantly traveling
The revisionist history was crazy for the Superteam segment
to be fair it all depends on how you define a super team ;1) is a super team is all about just results or 2) is a super team all about the super stars without the results or 3) is it both ?
the 1st maybe 15 teams that got super results historically
2nd maybe around 6 or 7
3rd maybe 2 or 3 at best
The 2020 Lakers are definitely not a superteam.
Consistent results plus superstars for me is what I'd call a super team. I think nowadays people throw the super team term around a lil too loosely and prematurely. When the lakers traded for Russell, people were calling them a super team but 12 months later that ain't the case. Same with the nets, people called them a super team in 2021 but now people don't even bring up the 2021 nets as a super team
It’s a mix between success and names, it’s the reason the Heat and Warriors are super teams but 2022 Lakers and 2021 Nets are not
@@endk.3500 They just sucked, failed superteams attempts happen too
@@paquinraino8180 which makes them not super teams
Solz that Giannis over Hakeem take is the worst thing you've ever said 🤣
That’s literally 1988 Hakeem not when he was at his peak in 94 and 95
@@DgSezn to be fair Giannis has a way better team than Dream.
Olajuwon best teammates in 88 was sleepy Floyd…
Pretty sure you never heard of him
@@yvans. We're talking about Giannis individually. And right now, he's definitely better than 1988 Hakeem.
Shit I would
2022 Giannis over 1988 Hakeem any day lol
Pretty sure most of the media and the public in general didn't even consider the Lakers the best team in LA at the start of the '20 season, let alone a Super Team.
The funny thing is, in the 90's when Rodman joined the Bulls, nobody thought it would be a super team. With Pippen and Jordan getting old, adding a Rodman who was a bust on SA, people genuinely believed they were washed. The entire idea that the 96 Bulls are a superteam is some serious contermporary revisionist bs. I mean, I won't deny they became a superteam, but nobody was going "oh shit, the NBA was doomed in 96."
The 1983 Sixers were the ultimate superteam. 65-17 in the regular season. 4-0 in the first round. 4-1 in the second round. 4-0 in the finals.
Probably one of the most dominating apart from the 2016-17 warriors
Cleveland was most definitely a super team.
throwing in your own seatgeek ad while his was about to start was actually pretty fire I like that
That kat argument really died when they saw my man attempted less 3s than bertans 😂😂
not really though, kat still requires more defensive attention and takes more difficult shots than bertans
But that’s because it’s all Bertans does. He’s a 3pt shooter, he ain’t even 3&D. Kat attempts shots from all over the floor
@@ethanbaileylol2283 making Bertans the better shooter. The argument wasn’t that Kat does more, the argument was that Kat was the better shooter, which statistically he isn’t
@@karma1351Bertans only attempted more threes for one season. KAT has consistently higher volumes, efficiency, and degree of difficulty
Volume and difficulty and all that stuff is good but on pure stats bertans has been better. At some point i think kat has to simplify his shooting to solidify himself or someone in the future may come along.
Nah bro this moving the goalpost on what a superteam is is fucking crazy 😂😂
Solz and sage on DTP timing love it😂
T Mac is nasty tho
A super team in my book is a time where you can legit say, “pack it up, the season is over”. I say it from the perspective that only a few teams had that kind of energy. I can’t say when the K Love and Kyrie cavs formed around Lebron that the cavs were just gonna steamroll to the chip. And I would say the Russ/AD/Lebron Lakers was a polarizing force. Some were saying it’s over, others like me thought it would ruin the Lakers. The thunder were more of a super team when Carmelo, PG, and Russ played together. Just my take.
the lakers with russ was a joke nobody actual thought they were going to do anything with AD declined westbrook empty stat and lebron getting older that was like cool but cute anyone that said they’re a super team is just plain hating and buying into skip baseless narrative
the only team at that time that was like oh shit, this is kinda scary is the nets. When they were blowing team out before injures it looked like one of those season
Like the bron Miami team, the warriors.
@@LeafyPeachthe Bron/Kyrie/Love Cavs actually did steamroll to the finals tho. All three years. Their best comp in the east was Toronto. *LeBronto* ...
isiah thomas definitely was in his prime, he literally went on to win back to back championships after 88.
You mean the pistons went on to win the championships. The bad boy pistons are one of the most balanced teams ever. Zeke was not carrying them
Nah the Tobias Harris disrespect has been crazy. He may be overpaid as shit but the guy is still a damn good player, over the last 5 years he's averaged 19-7-3 on 48 FG% and 39 3PT%. I remember how close he was to making the all star team in 2019 when he was helping lead that overachieving Clippers squad. As a 3rd option, he's a damn good player.
I think the hate is coming from letting jimmy butler go for Tobias Harris.
Fr, I didn't hear a peep when Jimi said Trez Harrel as a fringe all star but they couldn't get over Tobias?
Lmfao. Yall wasted Embiids career with trash
Love the fact you guys only seen highlights and have these takes. It's cool. Just funny.
Lebron teams up with 2 all stars: Wow this is a super team we’re definitely winning the chip.
5 years later: Lebron hasn’t played for a super team
That Vetical stat reminded me that my football team in HS thought i was a freak for having a 37" Standing Vert
Great video and all but how does this affect Temetrius Jamel Morant's griddy??🤔🤔
Justin Jefferson better
You got the whole name.🤣🤣🤣
@@LetMeEatDem w
Hot take: Hakeem was more dominant on both ends than Shaq
NAHHHH BRUH NAHHH jk I respect your opinion
You know, it ain't that hot of a take. I don't know if I'd push it, but it ain't unfounded.
@@ILOV3BUTT3R I would agree, but the general consensus is Shaq is the most dominant player ever, so if someone says he isn't that's going against what 99.99% of basketball fans think
Daniel Ricciardo Facts and Hakeem Olajuwon was more skilled and talented than Shaq be as Hakeem had a Fadeaway jumpshot that was his love and Sjaq relied on his Athleticism until it went away because he didn't maintain it and was constantly out of shape Shaq is overrated and was one dimensional at best
Tbh that’s not even a bad take, thats a good convo imo.
I agree with ur Kobe/ Kyle korver take a little bit but the way jj reddick and Kyle korver are able to sprint into threes on the move is very difficult and underrated skill
0:27 is crazzyyy
The Jkidd disrespect when 03 was when he was fresh off two finals appearance and a top 3 mvp voting season is wild
I know damn well you wouldn’t take J Kidd over any of those 8 players from 2022
@@Oscar-b5b4x 2003 Jason Kidd? Yes I would
@@Oscar-b5b4x nets were dog shit winning 26 games Jkidd gets traded for Marbury and they win 52 the very next season
@@Grand_marquee who you putting him over?
i mean kevin love avg'd 26 and 12 on the wolves before goin to the cavs, he just had to take a step back to fit like bosh did
The 2013 Heat were loaded. Had Ray Allen on the bench. Chris Bosh, first Ballot HOF, Wade is top 3 at his position all time. Great role players like Battier, Chalmers, Mike Miller, Birdman. That's his super team. Maybe that Cavs squad with KLove and Kyrie.
Peak Chris Bosh was the raptors.
Heat bosh was declining. He was a fringe all star, a 3rd option.
D wade was already declining due to injuries. So he’s no longer a superstar.
@@alohatigers1199 he sacrificed his post touches to be an outside shooter, play hard defense and be an undersized Center in small ball line ups. Post LeBron Bosh was able to be the best player on a good playoff team until he had blood clot issues and had to retire early. Toronto Bosh was a beast on the block, but he became a stretch five because that made his team better at the cost of his numbers and being forced to bang with bigger centers.
Bosh
LeBron
Battier
Wade
Chalmers/Ray Allen/Norris Cole
That was a deadly line up with spacing that was far ahead of the time. I hear you, but Bosh would have been an all NBA 4 if he has been stubborn but he sacrifice his own numbers and Hear got back to back championships
@@alohatigers1199 and Wade was still an all NBA caliber guard. 2014, he got hurt and they fell off, but four straight finals, two wins, one of the best regular season winning streaks, the Harlem Shake, 2013 was a great team and the best team in Heat history. Four Hall of Fame players, LeBron was MVP, Wade was all NBA and Bosh was a top 20-25 player. Then you have Ray Allen as an elite shooter off the bench we a bunch of role players like Birdman, Chalmers, Battier, Norris Cole and Mike Miller. They were elite on offensive and defense and beat a great San Antonio team in an all time great 7 game finals series.
So yall saying Bron, Kyrie and Love weren't a super team? Yea aight smh
16:00 yea y’all basketball knowledge has to be revoked 😂
Ball Don’t Stop and Hoops Central are actually two of the smoothest brain dudes on Twitter
Your take on Slow-mo reminds me of Brian Scalabrine challenging and owning everyone at the park. I don't think people realize that 15th guy sitting on the bench is going to smoke the majority of people in this world.
As someone who played d1 football and averaged 14/5/4 in AAU basketball and my uncle donyell played in the nba 15 years coaches g league now I hate that everyone thinks some nba players aren’t athletic even college players I’m 6’0 245 people were surprised that I’m 26 years removed from football only played one year due to a achelis and acl tear but can still run a 4.78 used to run a 4.55
Donyell Marshall
2020 Lakers being a superteam is crazy. The two superstars were only Lebron and AD. They had a great supporting cast. If we're simply calling really good teams superteams, then the term holds no meaning
Well you already know bro… according to the haters…whatever team LeBron is on is automatically a cheating Superteam squad…
@@jazzroyale7260man exactly, they actually say that now they won.. I wanna know the great players on that Lakers team
Peja counts as a big man 6'10" 230lbs even though he was a SF
No way everybody is forgetting when lebron was all up on twitter last year like "Keep the same energy" talking about winning a chip with russ and melo now people are talking about how he has no help
What he says and what is true are two different things. By this logic you think lebron is the goat bc he said he is
He put up a bunch of empty stats so when they underperform no one will blame him
@@easymoneysniper2788 fr i havent seen a more lack luster 30 point season
@@expressproductions1458
So, why is he the one who carries?
I thought y’all said that they was going to carry an “old ass lebron”
So why is he the one carrying them?
@@alohatigers1199 where did he carry them to? Not even the play ins?
The worst thing about the video is that solz and sage are not forgetting the words, instead of looking at what Jimmy said.
"Superteam Tob" is crazy!🤣🤣🤣
Rip Hamilton had one of the best mid range jump shots ever
How was Isaiah Thomas not in his prime when he literally went to the finals?
in all fairness the bulls were not a superteam. rodman was not an all star with them and pippen as great as he was still was not up to par with teammates from other "superteams"
They put the same ad over Jimmy ad lol
if 2013 Lakers were considered a failed super team so are the 2021 Lakers, and Cavs (even though they did not fail). Only reason they don't want to call them super teams are 1. boost Lebron's legacy 2. because the Warriors existed. You drop that Cavs team in any other era, they are considered a super team with no hesitation.
The first round comment about Tracy is hilarious when jokic got our first round
IMO, you can’t call a team a superteam before they play. A superteam to me is a team that is head and shoulders above every other team.
Nah. A super team is a team with at least 3 players that are top 3-5 at their positions.
@@jetsettech8804 but if they don't get the job done were they really "super"? Can't really be a super team with the results of an average team but that's just my opinion
@@jahmairtrott4635 yes it still counts.
@@jetsettech8804 So the 73-9 warriors weren’t a superteam?
@@actioninmyphannypack no they weren't
Fun Facts: Of all players in NBA history to average 20ppg, here are the top 3 in 3P%
1. Steph Curry
2. KAT
3. Kyrie Irving
So there’s that for his 2 weak rebuttals trashing KAT and Kyrie. (Curry’s shooting is not light years ahead of Kyrie and KAT definitely has a STRONG argument for greatest shooting Center)
No way you called him Imdavisss Bertans LMFAOOOOO
Ay throwing the ad over his ad is *BRAZY*
To fix the 1988 top 8 thing I would put either Dumars or moncrief or maybe Drexler to replace Kareem and then Dominique to replace Moses.
That electric Audi e-Tron ad really come up 2-3 times a video
21:45 don't forget the 1960s Celtics with up to 7 HOF players at any given time
Dude was 100% spot on. Korver is the most underrated 3pt shooter all time. Dude was a killer.
Keeping it a Bean Iverson being on the 2003 list along with T-Mac is not bad. Seriously only thing people say about Iverson is that he had horrible FG% which I agree but him in the early 2000’s was a 4 or 5 time scoring champion. It’s not because of the cultural impact for me but he was putting up big numbers. Yeah shooting low percentage because of him being the only scoring option, plus taking mad difficult shots was gonna put him in bad FG% but him and T MAC without a doubt belong on this list. I need more context to see why not.
If you want to hear my 2 cents with 2k comparisons that we all understand with the Kyle korver vs Kobe is: Player 1) a slightly early release and wide open/lightly covered coming off a screen 3pt or corner 3 with hall of Fame ~ catch and shoot, corner specialist, deadeye. Or. Player 2) green (perfect release) mid range with covered or smothered coverage using hall of Fame ~ clutch shooter, space creator, and deadeye. You tell me who's the better shooter. Also keep in mind what it takes to be hall of Fame in those categories while making that shot.
15:40 on was GOLD!!!!
26:08 probably the two of the most dominant scorers and one of the best iso players/ point guards of all time 😂😂
30min solz and sage video saving my day.
Yall Trippin on that 2003 take 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.... and Solz is right on the superteam intentions. They were perceived as such but had failed expectations
Tmac and Iverson not on there, crazy
Sage is tripping on that super team stuff. Just in the last 20 years has been more than 5 super teams. 2004 Lakers, KD Warrior, Harden KD Kyrie Nets, the Bron Wade Bosh Heats, the 2012 Lakers ect...
2016 Cavs is a superteam .
Nah 2017
No they're not
No
@@jacobtrimble4329no💀
Delusional 💀
Ppl think to be athletic you have to jump 40 ft or run a 4.4 lol that’s freakishly athletic. The only player I can think of in the NBA that’s not athletic is Boban. If he was a lil he’d dominate
Sage’s Hate For Clippers is probably eternal
For the take that was comparing 1988 vs 2022, I think Jimmy was doing that comparison via all-time rankings. That’s why he added that the players from 2022 still have time to add to their resumes. Bc obviously we’re taking prime Embiid over out of his prime Kareem 10/10 times
Took me this long to realize “JxmyHighroller” got one M.
Bruh if a collab between y’all and jimmy happens all his new videos gon be filled with offense is his defense and triple double comments 💀😂
What about curry's offense BEING his defense
Jimmy was talking about the collection of players careers not just that season
To me a super team is 3-4 all star to superstar players and then some good ass role players and depth
Kawhi over Karl Malone seems fair to me.
That 2003 part was fucking hilarious ☠️☠️ “AI”
jason kidd disrespect is wild
A super team is made on the court. It's irrelevant what they look like on paper. You can't be an underperforming super team. If you don't dominate the league you aren't a super team.
Crazy how y'all didn't mention primes when talking about the '03 cats but it's the first thing y'all mention about' 88. Using certain criteria to fit your take, heh? Solz was more logical and consistent before messing with Sage, smdh.
Y’all funny for that ad😂
Luka over prime magic is wild 😭😂‼️
A super team is how team a should be based on expectations of the pieces fitting together is a super team not how much they won
Solz is wylin wit these superteam hot takes
Giannis over Hakeem is so casual, Hakeem is going any single thing Giannis can do and then some.
Unfortunately you guys may be too young to remember the teams out West in the late 80s and early 90s. It was super team vs super team. LA, Portland, Seattle, Houston, GSW(92), Phoenix, San Antonio, Utah... that shit was a nightmare 😳
Most loaded season argument was valid wildlin
saying luka is better than magic johnson is crazy
Facts
Super team isn’t just 3 players never viewed Miami as a super team until 2014
a big 3 ≠ a superteam
a superteam to me has always had 3 top 30 guys to lead an offense, plus a *great* secondary unit to round out the rest of the team. No matter how good the teams top 3 is, its not a super team if the rest of team isn’t good. thats why its so rare. a team like golden state had iggy, livingston, javale, draymond. celts had rondo and tony allen. heatles had battier, allen, mike miller
The 2020 lakers with only 2 superstars surrounded by role players is considered a superteam 😂
Thought that ad was a parody!!!🤣
2020 lakers a super team is a huge hot take
Da💀ain’t nobody was calling that a super team tbh that year there were no superteams just superstar duos leading a team
None of the media even though they were the best team in LA that season, let alone a Super Team.
I'm with BSOLZ. Bron was in 3 super teams. 2015-17 Cavs were a super team that lost to a better Warriors super team. Kawhi PG Clippers are a super team. KD Kyrie Harden Nets were a super team. 2021-22 Lakers was supposed a super team. Jxmy really doesn't understand what a super team is
I love how at 25:51 he as Donovan Mitchell as a superstar and no one noticed…
Criteria on superteams being that they win something or have the best box plus minus of any three players is crazy lol. The team not panning out or not playing well together because of ego or all being ball dominant doesn’t mean it’s not a superteam.
For me, It’s 3+ players who would be the franchise player on most other teams. Therefore the 90s Bulls don’t qualify (Rodman is a role player ANYWHERE in the league, albeit a very good one), but the Pierce/KG/Allen Celtics do, the Lebron/Wade/Bosh Heat do, the Lebron/Kyrie/Love Cavs DO, and the Lebron/AD/Russ Lakers DO. Regardless of the actual success of those team-ups.
And yes, my definition also means that the PG/Kawhi Clippers do NOT count because there aren’t three. It was a scary duo (that hasn’t panned out), not a superteam. The KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets absolutely count. The 2021 Jazz do not because in no world is Gobert a franchise player anywhere. And for the Sixers, Simmons and Harris are like fringe franchise players. Like if either of them are your franchise player, you’re probably not a very good team, but they certainly would be that guy on a few teams. I don’t think most though, so not a superteam
I did not know LeBron and Kyrie played with Henny God, Toker Shump, Kardashian Kurser Thompson, and Ron Jeremy bruh. Team was stacked like paper