Split Force 13/20T Firewood Splitter Review, Service, and Improvements
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- In today's project, I pull the Split Force 13/20T firewood splitter into the barn for the first service. I give my opinion, while changing the engine oil, installing a brace for the controls, upgrading the battery cables, adding a hydraulic filter, and installing UHMW wear plates on the conveyor paddles.
Split Force sales and info: Mathieu Savard at Empire Attachments - msavard@empireattachments.com
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Happy to say that Split Force is now building their splitters with the controls brace and the UHMW pads on the conveyor paddles. Kudos to them for listening and responding positively to customer feedback!! 👍👍
The UHMW pads are a $350 option to have installed. How much did you have to pay for them and where did you get them?
@@terryelson5396 Purchased mine through Interstate Plastics. Total for uhmw was $130. I don’t recall what I paid for the nuts/bolts and drill bits. Appreciate you watching!
Nate looks like an awesome machine. Love the fact that you can drive to the woodpile. Great mods you did on the splitter. We all need a handy brother-in-law. Stay safe and happy splitting.
Big time saver. Wood splitter and my brother in law 😄. Thanks for the kind words. Really appreciate you watching!
Nice job, I like the improvements, also nice to have a brother-in-law that does a fine job fabricating. Take care.
Appreciate the kind words. My brother in law is a heck of a fabricator. Definitely keep him busy fixing everything we break. Thanks for watching!
They need to send you $4,000.00 for your suggestions and making their product much more marketable.
Nice video , makes me go watch more.
Appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
I was holding fingers, waiting to see if the plastic pieces will quiet that screeching!!
How many times I worked on tiring improvements that ended up expensive waste of time and motivation.
Thanks for sharing!!
Appreciate you watching!
Found your channel last night and am very impressed with your video quality and worth while content. Thanks for putting in the time and effort on these videos. Looks to be a top of the line splitter but seems like these improvements should have been addressed from the manufacturer before selling this $19k configuration. Hopefully they check out your video to see how to improve their product. Great ideas for these improvements.
Really appreciate the kind words. Hope to keep putting out quality content. Great to have you along, and thanks so much for watching!
Those are nice updates! The manufacturer should take note of the improvements you have made.That noise from the lift would have drove me crazy as well. I got to hand to you for your patience in making that upgrade. I would have ripped that channel and put in a couple of sprockets.
Appreciate the kind words. It definitely took some self control. Kind of expected it though, as a buddy has a similar design. Glad it’s fixed. Thanks so much for watching!
First thing I thought when I seen the battery cables was “wow, how cheap are they?” Great video, now a subscriber.
Glad to have you! Thanks so much for watching!
Just found your channel. Excellent content!
Welcome and thanks so much for the kind words! Really appreciate you watching!
I do like your both your trucks you work with and splitter too along with your barn too. It must have taken you awhile to get it all set up. Like your videos
Appreciate the kind words. I've slowly accumulated things over the years, and have been very blessed by my maker. Thanks so much for watching!
Watch the video and head it, was that disgusting ! was great to see you fix it ! it would drive me nuts ! if I had to listen to that all the time too ! GREAT JOB 💯
Appreciate the kind words. My neighbors were starting to hate me 😂. Thanks for watching!
Very nice tuning😉
Appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
i like that splitter real nice john
It’s a lot of fun to run. Thanks so much for watching!
Nice upgrades.
Thank you! Appreciate you watching!
I'd be building a seat!! That is cool
Nice upgrades, each one should definitely be coming from the factory! I like the conveyor upgrade, the screeching would get on my nerves!
So glad to have it fixed and quiet. Thanks for watching!
Nice updates to your splitter. I see I’m not the only one who realizes some factory build equipment is not yet up to our standards 😆. I’m surprised the splitter did not come with a return filter. How has the filter worked so far? Running calcs your return stroke is probably pushing 30-45 gpm?. Hopefully that filter assembly can handle that.
Thanks for the kind words. I have a tendency to make everything my own 😁. So far so good, no noticeable difference. Will report back once I get a few more cord of wood through it. Thanks for watching!
@@FoxfireProjects “make everything my own”😆 perfect finesse! Yup to hell with warranties! Many things I buy I have all mods and rework done in my mind before I even purchase. Is your splitter mfg associated at all with powersplit?
@@garny3766 You sound like my kind of people haha. Split Force shares several characteristics with Powersplit, but aren’t associated with them that I know of. Have a friend with a Powersplit, hope to do a comparison video soon!
Just saw on Outdoors with the Morgans TH-cam channel this AM that they are demoing a Split Force 11/16. But it looks like Empire Attachments took your advice and added the handle holds and some HDPE to the paddles to cut down on the noise but it doesn't look like they took your advice to add a filter. I'd love to "test drive" one of these, I know I will like it but don't know if I can justify the price just yet production isn't quite enough yet.
That's great to hear! Love that they are getting their machines out there. Split Force did add the hand hold at the controls levers and the UHMW on the paddles. They are great about customer feedback. I know what you mean about pricing, a big pill to swallow, but compared to Powersplit, their pricing is spot on. If you're ever in my neck of the woods, you're more than welcome to run my 13/20T. Thanks so much for watching!
Nice up grades
Appreciate the compliments. It's a great machine. Thanks so much for watching!
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I have a Timberdevil (Powersplit) since last year, same issue with the paint….
A bit disappointing after spending the money on a professional level piece of equipment. What they lack in paint, they make up for in splitting wood. Thanks for watching!
Where do you source your firewood bags? If you don't mind sharing. I am looking for a more convenient way of storing my firewood than stacking in the shed. Very time consuming. Dropping a bag into a shelter with a machine seems like a good idea. I split by hand for the small amount of wood I use. I need the exercise! I'm just West of you I think, let's connect somehow.
Don't mind a bit, I purchase my bags through NNZ.com, specifically their Log Lifter bags. They really do work great. Shoot me an email at foxfireprojects@gmail.com Really appreciate you watching!
Nate, nice machine and mods! Can you tell me what are the dimensions thickness of the table and lift (looks to be about 48''x20'' and 1/4'' thick and 3/16'' sides to me)?
Appreciate the kind words. Will be near the machine later today, and I'll get some measurements for you. Thanks so much for watching!
Table is 32”wide X 24”deep. Lift is 24”wide X 24”deep. Both 1/2” thick. Hope this helps!
@@FoxfireProjects Tanks for the reply. Is the wedge 10 or 12 in long? I had seen a Powersplit unit a few years back and the work table was about 1/4in. The Soudure Molloy unit sure seem much beefier! I will need to take the 2 hours drive to see them in real life. With the emerald ash borer situation here in Quebec, I can get free hardwood like never before. But with age, I need a better machine to save my back. I don't need a conveyor so I will most-likely get the standard towable unit. Thansk again for the great channel!
11.5” on the wedge. It’s definitely a beefy machine. Comparable the Powersplit for sure, as I have access to both. Jealous of your Ash abundance. I only hope the Ash species makes a rebound. EAB took out every tree on our property 4-5 years ago. Thanks again for watching!
Nice job. How much are those splitters? I'll Google it. Glad they listened. 😎✌️👍✌️
Thanks for the kind words. I paid around $19k USD. However, that was before the pandemic and supply/shipping shortages. I'm sure like everything, pricing has increased now. Appreciate you watching!
Love the video an thank you!! I couldn't make my mind up with this or easton made Axis. I like this one better I think because of the conveyor. So I see you have a mini truck do you have a video on it or could you do one? What state do you live in ? WV HERE...
Both great machines, but the built in conveyor and ability to move around under it’s own power is what sold me. Keep an eye out for the mini truck in some upcoming videos. I’m a few hours south of you in NC. Thanks so much for watching!
new sub.
like you review.
are these built in uss?
keep up the great vedios
usa
Just over the border in Canada. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
you need to grease the beam were the wedge is. I have the smaller version without the conveyor and mine has a hyd filter inside the tank yours didnt come with that.?
What is your process for greasing the beam? Every time I grease it, chips and dirt stick to it, and I fear it is doing more harm than good. Nothing in the tank on my machine. Thanks for your comments, appreciate you watching!
What did you call those plastic pieces you bought ? And where did you source them ? Have safe machine on order
UHMW, ultra high molecular weight plastic. Low friction and great wear resistance. I ordered mine from interstateplastics.com They will custom cut and ship right to your door. Congrats on the new machine, you'll love it. Thanks so much for watching!
@@FoxfireProjects perfect thanks and is this an American company or Canadian I’m from Canada
@@kylepetersen5508 Split Force is Canadian. Just outside of Montreal. Thanks again!
Should put some shut offs on your hydraulic tank just saying
Nice machine👍
That’s a great idea. If I have it apart again, will definitely add. Thanks so much for watching!
My complaint is Teflon tape does not belong on hydraulic equipment, , pieces will float to valves, or pumps!
Solid advice, and I do agree with you, but since I was adding the filter with the system full, I didn’t think pipe dope would stay on the threads. Manufacturer taped all non JIC fittings, so hopefully no issues down the road. Thanks so much for watching!
Where can you buy a split for splitter I can't find them online?
I imported mine through Empire Attachments. msavard@empireattachments.com Thanks for watching!
What is the company name that builds them. I've tryed looking the name up and don't have much lu k just your videos and power split a website would be nice to look them up thatnks
Split Force. Built by Soudure Molloy, and sold through Empire Attachments. They are working on increasing their internet presence. Contact Mat at msavard@empireattachments.com, he can get you all the info. Thanks so much for watching!
Easy fix I don't know what it would be called in your area,puckboard it's a nylon plastic, just get a one quarter thick piece the length of your lift trough noise fix, that's what I did to my conveyor.
Went with a similar fix. Used UHMW panels on the conveyor paddles where it drags on the chute. Did the trick. Have a video on it if you're interested. Thanks for watching!
I wonder what the manufacturer made of your simple improvements? That metal on metal screech was hideous.
Would be great if they incorporated the improvements into the build, but can't give them too much heat. It's a great product, and I'm sure they are dealing with supply chain, employee, and other post pandemic issues like everyone else these days. I'm just glad I could quiet the conveyor down. Thanks for watching!
Get an oil drain plug extension hose.
Great idea! I’ll check them out. Thanks for watching!
May I ask what your full time job is
I work in residential land development. Stormwater and erosion control specifically.
That conveyor noise would be a deal breaker for me.
It was rough for sure. The fix is still working though. Thanks so much for watching!
Line the bottom of the troth with same material or rubber convaior belt material to save more noise and the life of the thoth from metal on metal
Great idea! The UHMW seemed to do the trick, and Split Force is now adding it to all of their new machines. Always nice when the manufacture listens to suggestions. Thanks again for watching, glad to have you subscribed!
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you would think he would have fitter a shut off valve on the hydraulic oil
Not a bad idea. Thanks for watching!
how much did you pay for this splitter
Around $19k usd. That was just before the pandemic and the shipping and supply shortages though. I’m sure price has increased like everything else these days. Thanks so much for watching!
whats the msrp on one of these?
Price varies depending on motor, conveyor length, etc. Mine was around $19k shipped. Thanks for watching!
I think hydraulic filters are nearly a waste of money because they could much better be described as coarse sieves and not a filter.
They're much too coarse to catch anything more than the largest pieces of debris and it'd be terrifying finding anything they caught because that'd suggest major problems. I wouldn't swap out the hydraulic fluid any more than once a year or even longer depending on its running time.
You'll never need to buy bar oil for your chainsaws ever again.
Those wear plates are a good idea and you could consider folding those " using a hot air gun " cross wise " L shaped " so they work for the surface you covered and for the surface that comes into contact with the conveyor metal on its way up. Split them in two so you have one for each side of the chain and you'd still only need the one bolt for each.
They'll wear over time but they'll stop any metal on metal contact.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with you about the hydraulic filters. Hard to reprogram myself though, as every piece of equipment I’ve ever been around has had one. Tough to reprogram. Great idea on the wear plates for the bottom of the sweeps as well. When/if I switch them out, I’ll give it a go. Thanks so much for watching!
Yeah a heat gun with a 90 would be nice. I think I'd cut that lip back too when the L starts down the chute. It clanks as it hits the funnel. There's also come clanking on the way up that I'd address as well.
I think I'm going to disconnect the Honda on mine (to be soon) and put it in some kind of noise reducing box and hard plumb the hydraulics to some quick connect hoses. Drag it around with skid steer when it needs to be moved. Reducing the unbelievable amount of noise associated with firewood production is critical for me. Everything is so painfully loud. There's got to be a better way. Especially when you have neighbors within even 1000 yards. Nobody wants to listen to that noise pollution. I need to figure out some 3phase bandsaw the runs vertically as well. A chainsaw is fun to use, but after hour three, no so much.
I definitely share your opinion on the noise. Sure would be nice to have a quiet operation. I try to run a saw as little as possible, but unfortunately it's a necessity with my operation. Maybe one day I'll have a processor with a cab. Appreciate you watching!
Should have patented your fix for the conveyor noise....they'd have to pay you for incorporating it in to their manufacturing process. THAT WAS A NOISEY CONVEYOR!!! I'm sure the machine isn't cheap, pricewise. .
The squeak has since returned! The UHMW sheets on the paddles are still in good shape. Trying to figure it out. Will have an updated video out soon on that. Thanks so much for watching!