I've noticed the difference between the hats in each film, but I love how each one is unique to each story. The Temple Poet is underrated in my opinion, even if I like the hats from Raiders and Last Crusade.
Caleb, (the adventure den) here on my other channel. This video makes me so happy. The Temple hat is my favorite and me and my friends have had this discussion many times and pored over so many photos. It’s been great seeing more people come around to it. Go Doomers!
Even though I love the Raiders hat more (yes, I love the tight pinch), I feel like Indy's look from the bridge scene (shirt torn without one sleeve, wet clothes and machete in hand) is the definitive adventurer look for the character. It just suits him so well, whenever I think "adventure", I see Indy all battle damaged, ready to cut that bridge!
This was a very interesting video. Mainly because my fedora (whilst being one of the Stetson copies) is a Temple hat and it has the qualities of the latter half of the film. It has a tight front pinch, until you put it on your head which then makes it widen out properly. The band and color of the hat is flipped however. It looks darker brown, like it was soaked and the brim is a bright brown like how it looks in certianly promos for Doom. Its an oddity, at the end of it my Doom and Cruades hats are my favorite and i hope to own a true Crusader hat in future
there are definitely hat makers that aim to make the Temple hats have that soaked appearance, but the easiest way just seems to be to start with a Sri Lanka style hat and get it wet!
Hey brother. Just watched your Worst hat video…. LOVED IT ! Dude I thought I was the only one that felt that the Indygear/cow was biased. I admit I was bitten by the raiders bug but over time I started seeing what you explained in your video. My fedora is LC and jacket is LC (I have a raiders Nowak) but I’m my older years I like the softer front and not the drastic hard pinch. And the turn is horrible on me ! Preach on brother ! Just wanted to say thank you and be well!
I couldn’t agree more about the Crusade hat being the worst. I’d go so far as to say his jacket is the worst in Crusade as well, it’s so much better in ToD. The distressing on the crusade jacket is so ham fisted that it really stick out to me sometimes.
I would say the LC gear is my least favorite of the whole series. The jacket is kinda formless and the weathering is so fake it really stands out (though the pre-distressed hide in Skull isn't much better)! I think people's general fondness for the film is what drives a lot of the love for LC gear, but this madness about the hat being a return to "Raiders" is just that... madness. It is a lesser Doom hat.
Good breakdown. My personal opinion is that the Crystal Skull hat is the best Jones hat. It's sharp, got plenty of patina but still holds up as formal wear. Perfect ratio on the back and front flange.
My ranking of the hats 1. Raiders 2. Temple of Doom 3. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 4. Dial of Destiny 5. The Last Crusade The crown on the Raiders hat is a little tall (almost comically sometimes) but has the best brim, Temple of Doom is the opposite (The brim and crown are both proportionate but the brim isn't bent enough and almost a little too floppy for my liking) but it's arguably the most consistent one, KOTCS is a lot like the Temple fedora but the brim is a tad too small, the crown on the DoD fedora is too bashed in and the brim on TLC's fedora is comically small and it sometimes borders on looking like a bowler hat (it does have a nice bend, though).
I love the Temple hat too. In fact, I love all the Indy hat styles. The fedora look in Raiders has a cartoon quality about it. It's an overly exaggerated hat, almost a caricature of a fedora. Rather than it being a real thing, it looks like it's been drawn by a comic book artist. But maybe that's the charm. The hat fits with an overblown adventure serial character. Perhaps we subconsciously expect the character to wear over the top clothes. I think it's unfortunate that in some instances, the enjoyment of the character and the adventures that he finds himself, can be derailed because someone isn't happy if Indy wears his satchel OVER his jacket! Man alive! How will we survive? 🤠
TOD is also my favorite movie but all my fedoras have the Raiders bash 🙃 because it was the first movie this famous hat was shown. 😊 OK ... next one will be another AdVintage ... with Temple bash ... for shure! 🤠👍 Regards from Austria 🍻
There’s an argument that the ugly hat used in these photos was also a branded deal to showcase what Stetson was offering to LFL, but it may very well be the shrunken HJ. As I get used to shrinking felts the taper people associate with doom is typical with a shrinking hat that wasn’t upkept well for sure.
I've heard that rumor too, but I haven't seen much proof. Reading the Rinzler book is interesting because you get a real idea for how all these props were shipping around between HF, stunt folks and 2nd unit and it's apparent they were really put through the ringer!
@@MickeyLeeBukowski Oh no doubt, even the hat in Raiders you can tell gets its shape based on the filming conditions and the production schedule. The focal length on the lens I think has a part in the look in the movies and it contributes to the oversizing and wonky shapes certain hatters offer.
Well, maybe you can call me a Raiders nerd, almost for the jacket. But if I had to chose a hat one day (I still have none), it would surely is a Temple hat. I personnaly don't like the pinch of the Raiders one. The Temple one looks perfect to me.
Great video! The indygear site was always a bit of a dodgy one, I was a member for a long time and a lot of the stuff that is written there was utter bullshit. They said that TOD had product placement and that's why the hat was ( forgot the brand) and the jacket was a coopers. But they couldn't explain why no brand was shown or named ( what product placement is ). And the thing you mention about the raiders block and HJ. There is another angle to it, one of the writers for that site ( forgot his name it was Todd something) used to call up Swales ( the owner of the HJ store in London) at US hours ( late in Europe) and argued with him about the hat, and Swales gave him wrong measurements on purpose to get him off his case. This resulted in the measurements for the Akubra fedoras being off and eventually the Adventurebilt too. The forum and the admins etc all had their version of the facts and it was always motivated by the collaborations with people providing the gear. Todd had beef with Peter Botwright too and they totally discredited Wested and their part in things. I totally enjoyed your video and agree with what you said! I raised most of these points back in 2008 and I got so sour with the bullcrap and lies that it totally turned me off the gear etc. Thanks so much for this vid.
Thank you! And yes, that was the Stetson hat they claimed was used during the airplane scene. Which we know not to be true. The hat had just been extremely tapered due to water damage. That is so wild about the measurements! I had never heard that before but it makes a lot of sense, as the things that were posted often didn't square with what you can see with your own eyes on screen. Thanks so much for the comment and glad you enjoyed the vid. I should say it seems to have had a TINY effect on IndyGear as they have removed some of the more negative language about the TOD hat.
So what does Michelson say? Started on Club Obi Wan for the jacket (I ended up with a couple of TOD versions) but eventually ended up at the Fedora Lounge for my wardrobe. Had Steve Delk build me a few fedoras over a decade ago, bought a GladHatter, Akurba, HJ and a few others. Luckily, my head is a Long Oval.
I definitely agree the Raiders purists can get really annoying especially when they try to invalidate your passion for other Indy movies and costumes. The majority of Raiders cosplayers go for the Raiders gear because that’s just their personal preference and they prefer that look. That’s how it should be. Love them or hate them there’s 5 Indiana Jones movies and a ton of different looks an Indy cosplayer can go for. The toxicity from a minority of fans can have on different variations for Indy or the people who don’t have a Raiders build can really suck the joy out of this hobby.
I personally love Raiders but I don't really prefer the particular look from either of the first two films, I think they are equally awesome. I do believe the quality began to dip a bit for the last crusade and the last two films have pros and cons to the look of the gear but nothing touches the first 2. Both Raiders and Temple are perfect and unique in their own way.
Great video! I'll just say this: Raiders is my favorite. Saw it at a formative age and all that. But in my opinion there was a promise made by the Peruvian sequence at the beginning of the film. That promise was kept by Temple of Doom. Does that follow? There was an intense feeling of 1930s Pulp in that first sequence that you can feel all through Temple of Doom. And I love it for fulfilling that promise. Also, there are no bad Indy hats. Except in the Young Indiana Jones TV series...still don't understand what they were going for there...
@@MickeyLeeBukowski Indeed! The hat from the Peru sequence was the first hat I LUSTED for. The second was the bridge sequence in Temple. Funnily enough, the third best look that I preferred was the pier scene in Last Crusade - and THAT'S the only one of the three that I have! Need to work on that...
Raiders is my favorite hat, but it's not as versatile as TOD and onwards, but will always be my preference for casual or smart casual. I've actually stopped wearing my Raiders hat once I got my Advintage Skull and HJ Dial hat, the latter of which I'm currently wearing. I'm looking at getting an Advintage TOD now because of you and Kirk kill it with Doom ensembles.
There’s about 4 companies that ALL claim THEY made the hats for Temple of doom. Never in my life have I seen MORE people claim MORE companies made ONE hat in my ENTIRE life. LOL
@MickeyLeeBukowski So in this regard, they aren't exactly lying they just aren't being fully truthful either. Baron Hats and even possibly Stetson both made hats for TOD however they were only made for the stunt crew or as "spare hats" in case Harrison ever ruined one of the HJs. The only hat to ever touch Ford's head though was a Herbert Johnson. If you see Harrison's face then it's a Herbert Johnson. For action shots and stunts where the hat could get ruined on a Stuntman they used one of the other companies. I will say Baron has proof his hat was used by stunt crews. He has picture evidence of his hat on the ToD set. Stetson has never really been able to prove it and their hats being on set are more of a rumor. But yes the only hat to ever touch Ford's head is a Herbert Johnson.
One thing I'd like to mention, re: your comments on how the ToD hat went through a lot during filming - there would have been several hats made for both Ford and for use in Stunts. It wouldn't have been the same hat throughout and Ford and his stunt doubles wouldn't have shared a hat. This is one of the major reasons why the hats look different throughout the films.
Yes there were about a dozen hats made. But they all went through hell due to the sheer amount of stunts in this film. But all the Sri Lanka stuff was done first and that's why the hats look the best there. The hats where Ford is wearing them in the mine scenes were filmed way toward the end.
The doom hat is the hat that looks best on me with the proportions aligning better with my face and shoulders I love raiders hat but much like the movie itself, I find that doom in general gets a lot of uncalled for hate. It’s a great movie with a beautiful hat.
Yes but there's a continuity error in the cockpit when Indy taps on the fuel gage and it cuts back to the closeup of Indy it's a different hat he's wearing..@@MickeyLeeBukowski
While the Raiders style is my favorite, I still like all the other styles (especially the Temple on location on the rope bridge). I love that the hat (as well as the rest of the costume) is different in each movie.
I loved this video! Great content!! I don't get why some people like to hate on the Temple of Doom hat, I like it a lot. Indygear has some great information, but the section on the Temple fedora is certainly lacking. I'm slowly but surely getting myself into the hat making game and I'm trying to make a hat from each movie (In release order rather than chronological order.) Already made a Raiders (I went for the Idol grab scene, as you said there's a "Hobo" aspect to some of the other hats that I don't care for.) and now I'm hoping to make a Temple. If you know a place I can get accurate info on the ToD hat, please let me know, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks for this awesome content!
I'm no hat making expert, just a fan! IndyGear has some measurements at that link I posted. You can take them for what they are worth. Good luck on your hatmaking! indygear.net/fedora/
Great video. I personally am a Raiders guy….however I love and respect TOD (my number 2 Indy fav). I’ll never understand some of the negativity out there with Doom. Keep the great videos coming!
I read somewhere (long before indygear came around but i can't recall exactly where) , that there were several hats made/used during filming by Harrison and the stunt doubles /stand ins during all the original 3 movies.
Yup that is absolutely true -- usually about a dozen per film. But they were all made the same style for each film. There are 5 Indy movies and the hat for each one is distinct.
The LC hat is great, when it’s good. But there’s a lot of shots and promotional material where it looks like dirt. I’d say the worst is a shot during the motorcycle chase scene. Absolutely no pinch. The best hat, probably the Skull hat. As I see it as a cross between the Raiders and Last Crusade.
@Darthbauer951 that motorcycle chase was done way after initial production wrapped up. You can tell by how long HF's hair is. So I'm guessing those hats were held together with tape by then lol. I think the Skull accomplished what they were going for in Crusade. It's a cool hat for sure
Honestly, there are times in Raiders that the hat looks like it’s about to fall apart and be a former hat! While I have to disagree and say I like (in general) the Last Crusade hat the most, the Temple hat looks awesome in a lot of scenes, and the Skulls hat was the best part of that film, beautiful piece!
I love all the fedoras buy Raiders is my favorite lol but I do got to admit the Temple of Doom 1 does stand out because there's so many looks in that movie compared to the other ones because of stuff like this like you're mentioning
After being pure Raiders Indy cosplay for years I am thinking about switching to TOD. I can never get a Raiders fedora to look right on my head. I have a different head shape than Harrison and can never get the Raiders turn to look right. therefore, I think TOD is a better choice for me. I like Last Crusade, but it seems like everyone either does Raiders or Last Crusade. So, I think I am going to take the road less travelled.
I basically worship The Last Crusade. Its my favorite film, and my ideal Indy look. However, to come up to you and say youre crazy for liking the Temple of Doom look is insane. Ik this video is kinda old by now, but this is my third time re-watching it, and as a kinda rookie in the Indy community itself, i had to say something. Indy is for everyone!
@callmeparzival5870 All opinions are valid. That's the point of this. TOD has been crapped on by a rather influential part of the fandom for quite some time and this vid is a reaction to that. I'm very careful to always preface what I say with "in my opinion..."
That looks like a temple of doom hat to me. Not only are the images on Indygear the worst images they could’ve gotten… But they are also dimensionally squished vertically.
They really did choose the worst photos of the hat in Temple. For a while, I thought that they just had a couple different hats since it really depends on the scene but the end of production shrinkage explanation makes so much sense. I still have a Raiders Hat preference, but Temple is in a very close second (his whole outfit is probably the best Ford looked in any of the movies. Who doesn't love ripped shirt Indy?) With that, I think Last Crusade is the worst looking Indy in general out of the movies. Weirdly proportioned hat, buttoned up shirt and tie for most the movie, barely any scruffy facial hair... he looks like a dork. It balances out a little once we get to the tank chase onwards when he gets dirtier and bloodied, but boy I hate how they styled him in that movie.
I'm 100% with you on that. I think the overall LC look is hindered by a few things -- first, the late 80s trend for clothes to be very baggy. Second -- HF was nowhere near as slim as he was in Raiders and Doom (heck he looked better in Skull!). The LC jacket is kinda formless compared to the Raiders and Doom jackets, which were more tailored. And I know a lot of guys like it for that reason, it's just not for me.
HJ lost the supplies they used to make the Raiders. This had been confirmed. They used new supplies to recreate the Fedora. HJ also states LC fedora is in the middle of Raiders and Temple. Lol. Also, HJ made dozens of these hats for each movie so some of your arguments isn’t valid. Those LC images are promotional images, not sure how many of those hats were actually in the movie. Imo, Temple is the weakest
I posted a link to HJ's blog concerning the Poet. But I'll repost here: herbertjohnson.co.uk/blogs/journal/mythbusting-the-indiana-jones-hero-poet I'm well aware that several hats were made for each film. Not sure how that invalidates anything I said. It's not like they were kept in a safe until the next one was needed. They were all used simultaneously by HF and the 2nd Unit/stunt team. No, the only LC promo image was the one with Spielberg and Lucas -- the others were all taken on-set. And if IndyGear can pick and choose, so can I. And you missed the main part of my argument -- even if HJ could make perfect Raiders replicas for each film, the decision was made to go with the Temple style hat. I've had several people approach me after this video was posted to say that Harrison Ford himself wanted the hat that way. Steve Delk would have gladly made him a Raiders style. He didn't want it. And that's just like...your opinion, man.
@@MickeyLeeBukowski very interesting blog. Thanks for sharing. If this is the case, then why can’t HJ create the same style poet from film? I own a poet and it’s not same as the film. In fact, I would argue AdVintage is the closest to the film as far as accuracy. Personally, I’m not the biggest fan of HJ hats.
I honestly believe a LOT of people sleep on the skull hat. As time has gone by, I’ve really come to love that hat!
I 100% agree. I think the Skull hat is pretty nice. And the Destiny.
The Skull hat is my favorite! I'm fortunate to own one made by Steve Delk.
I've noticed the difference between the hats in each film, but I love how each one is unique to each story. The Temple Poet is underrated in my opinion, even if I like the hats from Raiders and Last Crusade.
Definitely adds a whole new layer for fans who watch the movies closely!
Caleb, (the adventure den) here on my other channel. This video makes me so happy. The Temple hat is my favorite and me and my friends have had this discussion many times and pored over so many photos. It’s been great seeing more people come around to it.
Go Doomers!
Hi Caleb! Thanks for stopping by. I'm a fan!
Even though I love the Raiders hat more (yes, I love the tight pinch), I feel like Indy's look from the bridge scene (shirt torn without one sleeve, wet clothes and machete in hand) is the definitive adventurer look for the character. It just suits him so well, whenever I think "adventure", I see Indy all battle damaged, ready to cut that bridge!
Agree 100%
This was a very interesting video. Mainly because my fedora (whilst being one of the Stetson copies) is a Temple hat and it has the qualities of the latter half of the film. It has a tight front pinch, until you put it on your head which then makes it widen out properly. The band and color of the hat is flipped however. It looks darker brown, like it was soaked and the brim is a bright brown like how it looks in certianly promos for Doom.
Its an oddity, at the end of it my Doom and Cruades hats are my favorite and i hope to own a true Crusader hat in future
there are definitely hat makers that aim to make the Temple hats have that soaked appearance, but the easiest way just seems to be to start with a Sri Lanka style hat and get it wet!
My Doom bias aside, you hit the nail on the head bro! And great video as always!
I had a feeling you of all people would get where I was coming from!
@@MickeyLeeBukowski I’m your huckleberry
You know we have reached peak nerd when we have debates about what hat in Indiana jones looks best 😂 great vid man
I'm taking nerdom to new lows!
Hey brother. Just watched your Worst hat video…. LOVED IT ! Dude I thought I was the only one that felt that the Indygear/cow was biased.
I admit I was bitten by the raiders bug but over time I started seeing what you explained in your video.
My fedora is LC and jacket is LC (I have a raiders Nowak) but I’m my older years I like the softer front and not the drastic hard pinch. And the turn is horrible on me !
Preach on brother ! Just wanted to say thank you and be well!
Thanks so much!
I couldn’t agree more about the Crusade hat being the worst. I’d go so far as to say his jacket is the worst in Crusade as well, it’s so much better in ToD. The distressing on the crusade jacket is so ham fisted that it really stick out to me sometimes.
I would say the LC gear is my least favorite of the whole series. The jacket is kinda formless and the weathering is so fake it really stands out (though the pre-distressed hide in Skull isn't much better)! I think people's general fondness for the film is what drives a lot of the love for LC gear, but this madness about the hat being a return to "Raiders" is just that... madness. It is a lesser Doom hat.
I got so mad about your rash about the raiders hat, but it made me laugh like fudge! Great video, great opinion! Very good!
Thank you! I always set out to make folks laugh 😃
Good breakdown.
My personal opinion is that the Crystal Skull hat is the best Jones hat.
It's sharp, got plenty of patina but still holds up as formal wear. Perfect ratio on the back and front flange.
It's a good one! Better than the movie that it's in!
@ Oh 100%
7:30 should be THOUGH, not THOUGHT. How have they not fixed that after all these years?
I know! I decided not to comment on it
My ranking of the hats
1. Raiders
2. Temple of Doom
3. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4. Dial of Destiny
5. The Last Crusade
The crown on the Raiders hat is a little tall (almost comically sometimes) but has the best brim, Temple of Doom is the opposite (The brim and crown are both proportionate but the brim isn't bent enough and almost a little too floppy for my liking) but it's arguably the most consistent one, KOTCS is a lot like the Temple fedora but the brim is a tad too small, the crown on the DoD fedora is too bashed in and the brim on TLC's fedora is comically small and it sometimes borders on looking like a bowler hat (it does have a nice bend, though).
That's a solid list! I'd switch TOD and Raiders (of course) but I can't argue with the rest!
I love the Temple hat too. In fact, I love all the Indy hat styles. The fedora look in Raiders has a cartoon quality about it. It's an overly exaggerated hat, almost a caricature of a fedora. Rather than it being a real thing, it looks like it's been drawn by a comic book artist. But maybe that's the charm. The hat fits with an overblown adventure serial character. Perhaps we subconsciously expect the character to wear over the top clothes.
I think it's unfortunate that in some instances, the enjoyment of the character and the adventures that he finds himself, can be derailed because someone isn't happy if Indy wears his satchel OVER his jacket! Man alive! How will we survive? 🤠
I never had a problem with the bag over the jacket! Totally made sense for him to do that after getting stuck on the tank in Crusade.
Last Crusade easily looks the worst to me. The whole thing looks too small
It gets really strange in parts -- short brim, mushroom shaped crown, no pinch. Not my fave by a long shot!
Great video! I just ordered the Cairo Poet, so naturally I'm convinced it's the best one.
I'm all for whatever brings people joy!
TOD is also my favorite movie but all my fedoras have the Raiders bash 🙃 because it was the first movie this famous hat was shown. 😊
OK ... next one will be another AdVintage ... with Temple bash ... for shure! 🤠👍
Regards from Austria
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I love my AdVintage TOD!
I love my TOD hat. I have one of each film style but wouldn't want an extra Raiders hat as it's the only hat with the tight pinch
My favorite version of the Raiders hat is in the Peru live action scenes
I agree, I also think the hats in Dial of Destiny are actually the best
@jordanfournier4366 hey they are directly descended from the TOD so I'll allow it :D
Great video and analysis here! I love all the TOD gear!!
Thank you very much!
There’s an argument that the ugly hat used in these photos was also a branded deal to showcase what Stetson was offering to LFL, but it may very well be the shrunken HJ. As I get used to shrinking felts the taper people associate with doom is typical with a shrinking hat that wasn’t upkept well for sure.
I've heard that rumor too, but I haven't seen much proof. Reading the Rinzler book is interesting because you get a real idea for how all these props were shipping around between HF, stunt folks and 2nd unit and it's apparent they were really put through the ringer!
@@MickeyLeeBukowski Oh no doubt, even the hat in Raiders you can tell gets its shape based on the filming conditions and the production schedule. The focal length on the lens I think has a part in the look in the movies and it contributes to the oversizing and wonky shapes certain hatters offer.
Well, maybe you can call me a Raiders nerd, almost for the jacket. But if I had to chose a hat one day (I still have none), it would surely is a Temple hat. I personnaly don't like the pinch of the Raiders one. The Temple one looks perfect to me.
A lot of good makers out there that could get you one!
Great video! The indygear site was always a bit of a dodgy one, I was a member for a long time and a lot of the stuff that is written there was utter bullshit. They said that TOD had product placement and that's why the hat was ( forgot the brand) and the jacket was a coopers. But they couldn't explain why no brand was shown or named ( what product placement is ). And the thing you mention about the raiders block and HJ. There is another angle to it, one of the writers for that site ( forgot his name it was Todd something) used to call up Swales ( the owner of the HJ store in London) at US hours ( late in Europe) and argued with him about the hat, and Swales gave him wrong measurements on purpose to get him off his case. This resulted in the measurements for the Akubra fedoras being off and eventually the Adventurebilt too. The forum and the admins etc all had their version of the facts and it was always motivated by the collaborations with people providing the gear. Todd had beef with Peter Botwright too and they totally discredited Wested and their part in things. I totally enjoyed your video and agree with what you said! I raised most of these points back in 2008 and I got so sour with the bullcrap and lies that it totally turned me off the gear etc.
Thanks so much for this vid.
Thank you! And yes, that was the Stetson hat they claimed was used during the airplane scene. Which we know not to be true. The hat had just been extremely tapered due to water damage. That is so wild about the measurements! I had never heard that before but it makes a lot of sense, as the things that were posted often didn't square with what you can see with your own eyes on screen.
Thanks so much for the comment and glad you enjoyed the vid. I should say it seems to have had a TINY effect on IndyGear as they have removed some of the more negative language about the TOD hat.
So what does Michelson say? Started on Club Obi Wan for the jacket (I ended up with a couple of TOD versions) but eventually ended up at the Fedora Lounge for my wardrobe. Had Steve Delk build me a few fedoras over a decade ago, bought a GladHatter, Akurba, HJ and a few others. Luckily, my head is a Long Oval.
Thanks for chiming in!
I definitely agree the Raiders purists can get really annoying especially when they try to invalidate your passion for other Indy movies and costumes. The majority of Raiders cosplayers go for the Raiders gear because that’s just their personal preference and they prefer that look. That’s how it should be. Love them or hate them there’s 5 Indiana Jones movies and a ton of different looks an Indy cosplayer can go for. The toxicity from a minority of fans can have on different variations for Indy or the people who don’t have a Raiders build can really suck the joy out of this hobby.
Could not agree more!
I personally love Raiders but I don't really prefer the particular look from either of the first two films, I think they are equally awesome. I do believe the quality began to dip a bit for the last crusade and the last two films have pros and cons to the look of the gear but nothing touches the first 2. Both Raiders and Temple are perfect and unique in their own way.
Great video! I'll just say this: Raiders is my favorite. Saw it at a formative age and all that. But in my opinion there was a promise made by the Peruvian sequence at the beginning of the film. That promise was kept by Temple of Doom. Does that follow? There was an intense feeling of 1930s Pulp in that first sequence that you can feel all through Temple of Doom. And I love it for fulfilling that promise. Also, there are no bad Indy hats. Except in the Young Indiana Jones TV series...still don't understand what they were going for there...
Hey I saw Raiders twice in its theatrical run and I loved it! Who thought it could be so well improved upon? 😅
@@MickeyLeeBukowski Indeed! The hat from the Peru sequence was the first hat I LUSTED for. The second was the bridge sequence in Temple. Funnily enough, the third best look that I preferred was the pier scene in Last Crusade - and THAT'S the only one of the three that I have! Need to work on that...
@@TwoMoon71 Yeah that Hawaii location hat is fire.
Raiders is my favorite hat, but it's not as versatile as TOD and onwards, but will always be my preference for casual or smart casual. I've actually stopped wearing my Raiders hat once I got my Advintage Skull and HJ Dial hat, the latter of which I'm currently wearing. I'm looking at getting an Advintage TOD now because of you and Kirk kill it with Doom ensembles.
Awesome! Hey they are all good, there are just some I like better :)
There’s about 4 companies that ALL claim THEY made the hats for Temple of doom. Never in my life have I seen MORE people claim MORE companies made ONE hat in my ENTIRE life. LOL
If they ain't called Herbert Johnson I wouldn't trust 'em
@MickeyLeeBukowski So in this regard, they aren't exactly lying they just aren't being fully truthful either. Baron Hats and even possibly Stetson both made hats for TOD however they were only made for the stunt crew or as "spare hats" in case Harrison ever ruined one of the HJs. The only hat to ever touch Ford's head though was a Herbert Johnson. If you see Harrison's face then it's a Herbert Johnson. For action shots and stunts where the hat could get ruined on a Stuntman they used one of the other companies. I will say Baron has proof his hat was used by stunt crews. He has picture evidence of his hat on the ToD set. Stetson has never really been able to prove it and their hats being on set are more of a rumor. But yes the only hat to ever touch Ford's head is a Herbert Johnson.
One thing I'd like to mention, re: your comments on how the ToD hat went through a lot during filming - there would have been several hats made for both Ford and for use in Stunts. It wouldn't have been the same hat throughout and Ford and his stunt doubles wouldn't have shared a hat. This is one of the major reasons why the hats look different throughout the films.
Yes there were about a dozen hats made. But they all went through hell due to the sheer amount of stunts in this film. But all the Sri Lanka stuff was done first and that's why the hats look the best there. The hats where Ford is wearing them in the mine scenes were filmed way toward the end.
@@MickeyLeeBukowski cool, I'm glad you get it - I often see people talk about these sorts of things like there was only ever one made 😆
The doom hat is the hat that looks best on me with the proportions aligning better with my face and shoulders
I love raiders hat but much like the movie itself, I find that doom in general gets a lot of uncalled for hate. It’s a great movie with a beautiful hat.
Agreed all around!
In the cockpit scene the hat also seems to go from small to large.
It really gets mangled up when Willie pulls it off his head and it gets a huge dent in the back right that makes it look tiny from the front
Yes but there's a continuity error in the cockpit when Indy taps on the fuel gage and it cuts back to the closeup of Indy it's a different hat he's wearing..@@MickeyLeeBukowski
While the Raiders style is my favorite, I still like all the other styles (especially the Temple on location on the rope bridge). I love that the hat (as well as the rest of the costume) is different in each movie.
Definitely gives each movie its own character!
I loved this video! Great content!! I don't get why some people like to hate on the Temple of Doom hat, I like it a lot. Indygear has some great information, but the section on the Temple fedora is certainly lacking. I'm slowly but surely getting myself into the hat making game and I'm trying to make a hat from each movie (In release order rather than chronological order.) Already made a Raiders (I went for the Idol grab scene, as you said there's a "Hobo" aspect to some of the other hats that I don't care for.) and now I'm hoping to make a Temple. If you know a place I can get accurate info on the ToD hat, please let me know, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks for this awesome content!
I'm no hat making expert, just a fan! IndyGear has some measurements at that link I posted. You can take them for what they are worth. Good luck on your hatmaking!
indygear.net/fedora/
Great video. I personally am a Raiders guy….however I love and respect TOD (my number 2 Indy fav). I’ll never understand some of the negativity out there with Doom. Keep the great videos coming!
Many thanks! I plan on it
Can I ask where you got that hat that you have on in this video
It looks like a great temple hat
Thanks! That is my Herbert Johnson TOD and I discuss purchasing it here
th-cam.com/video/dAuMoOTwopc/w-d-xo.html
@@MickeyLeeBukowski thanks , that is my favourite hat and movie too , it’s a bit expensive though but I’ll save up
I read somewhere (long before indygear came around but i can't recall exactly where) , that there were several hats made/used during filming by Harrison and the stunt doubles /stand ins during all the original 3 movies.
Yup that is absolutely true -- usually about a dozen per film. But they were all made the same style for each film. There are 5 Indy movies and the hat for each one is distinct.
The LC hat is great, when it’s good. But there’s a lot of shots and promotional material where it looks like dirt. I’d say the worst is a shot during the motorcycle chase scene. Absolutely no pinch. The best hat, probably the Skull hat. As I see it as a cross between the Raiders and Last Crusade.
@Darthbauer951 that motorcycle chase was done way after initial production wrapped up. You can tell by how long HF's hair is. So I'm guessing those hats were held together with tape by then lol. I think the Skull accomplished what they were going for in Crusade. It's a cool hat for sure
Honestly, there are times in Raiders that the hat looks like it’s about to fall apart and be a former hat! While I have to disagree and say I like (in general) the Last Crusade hat the most, the Temple hat looks awesome in a lot of scenes, and the Skulls hat was the best part of that film, beautiful piece!
Totally fair opinion! And yes, I like the Skull hat quite a bit! The Destiny hat is cool too
I love all the fedoras buy Raiders is my favorite lol but I do got to admit the Temple of Doom 1 does stand out because there's so many looks in that movie compared to the other ones because of stuff like this like you're mentioning
Hey everyone is allowed to have their favorite! Thanks for chiming in :)
After being pure Raiders Indy cosplay for years I am thinking about switching to TOD. I can never get a Raiders fedora to look right on my head. I have a different head shape than Harrison and can never get the Raiders turn to look right. therefore, I think TOD is a better choice for me. I like Last Crusade, but it seems like everyone either does Raiders or Last Crusade. So, I think I am going to take the road less travelled.
I fully support you on your quest!
I have never watched the indiana jones series but it definitely seems interesting
Give them a shot sometime. You might like them. Or not!
@@MickeyLeeBukowski when I get the chance I probably will
Why am I thinking Smokey the Bear while watching this? 😅
@@chronocommander007 Great question
@MickeyLeeBukowski Ha-ha-ha. I just wish hats would come back in style in general.
I basically worship The Last Crusade. Its my favorite film, and my ideal Indy look. However, to come up to you and say youre crazy for liking the Temple of Doom look is insane. Ik this video is kinda old by now, but this is my third time re-watching it, and as a kinda rookie in the Indy community itself, i had to say something.
Indy is for everyone!
@callmeparzival5870 All opinions are valid. That's the point of this. TOD has been crapped on by a rather influential part of the fandom for quite some time and this vid is a reaction to that. I'm very careful to always preface what I say with "in my opinion..."
Indiana Hats and his temple Of DoOm!
This is literally the best fedora.
Agreed!
@@MickeyLeeBukowski I’m gonna be working on saving up money for the temple poet so I can start doing an Indy cosplay in the next year or two
Hastag, we love joanna johnston
It's true
That looks like a temple of doom hat to me. Not only are the images on Indygear the worst images they could’ve gotten… But they are also dimensionally squished vertically.
They really did choose the worst photos of the hat in Temple. For a while, I thought that they just had a couple different hats since it really depends on the scene but the end of production shrinkage explanation makes so much sense. I still have a Raiders Hat preference, but Temple is in a very close second (his whole outfit is probably the best Ford looked in any of the movies. Who doesn't love ripped shirt Indy?)
With that, I think Last Crusade is the worst looking Indy in general out of the movies. Weirdly proportioned hat, buttoned up shirt and tie for most the movie, barely any scruffy facial hair... he looks like a dork. It balances out a little once we get to the tank chase onwards when he gets dirtier and bloodied, but boy I hate how they styled him in that movie.
I'm 100% with you on that. I think the overall LC look is hindered by a few things -- first, the late 80s trend for clothes to be very baggy. Second -- HF was nowhere near as slim as he was in Raiders and Doom (heck he looked better in Skull!). The LC jacket is kinda formless compared to the Raiders and Doom jackets, which were more tailored. And I know a lot of guys like it for that reason, it's just not for me.
Last crusade hat is better then doom hat
To you maybe
HJ lost the supplies they used to make the Raiders. This had been confirmed. They used new supplies to recreate the Fedora. HJ also states LC fedora is in the middle of Raiders and Temple. Lol. Also, HJ made dozens of these hats for each movie so some of your arguments isn’t valid. Those LC images are promotional images, not sure how many of those hats were actually in the movie.
Imo, Temple is the weakest
I posted a link to HJ's blog concerning the Poet. But I'll repost here:
herbertjohnson.co.uk/blogs/journal/mythbusting-the-indiana-jones-hero-poet
I'm well aware that several hats were made for each film. Not sure how that invalidates anything I said. It's not like they were kept in a safe until the next one was needed. They were all used simultaneously by HF and the 2nd Unit/stunt team.
No, the only LC promo image was the one with Spielberg and Lucas -- the others were all taken on-set. And if IndyGear can pick and choose, so can I.
And you missed the main part of my argument -- even if HJ could make perfect Raiders replicas for each film, the decision was made to go with the Temple style hat. I've had several people approach me after this video was posted to say that Harrison Ford himself wanted the hat that way. Steve Delk would have gladly made him a Raiders style. He didn't want it.
And that's just like...your opinion, man.
@@MickeyLeeBukowski very interesting blog. Thanks for sharing. If this is the case, then why can’t HJ create the same style poet from film? I own a poet and it’s not same as the film. In fact, I would argue AdVintage is the closest to the film as far as accuracy. Personally, I’m not the biggest fan of HJ hats.
It's not the best hat, but raiders of the lost ark is the goat
Yup that's the standard opinion