THE INDIANA JONES FEDORA | HERBERT JOHNSON POET HAT
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- In this video your host takes a deeper look at the fedora hat worn by Dr Henry 'Indiana' Jones in the movies.
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As a professor of mythology who also loves to practice martial arts and combat sports for fun, Indiana Jones has always been a bit of a personal hero for me.
I purchased a Stetson Indy Fedora back in 85. I still wear it to this day. Quality and a style that is always in style. Well done, Ash!
Great history of formal hats. I have a simple addition to this. My girlfriend from years ago, her father's father was a successful hat salesman in the Philadelphia area. When another mid-century style icon JFK was sworn in as President of the USA he did so without a hat. The first President to place his hand on the Bible and swear allegiance to our constitution to do so without a formal hat on. That, according to my ex-girlfriends father was the end of that career for his father.
I have heard the same thing about sleeveless tee-shirts and Clark Gable.
Kennedy wore a top hat that day as had his predecessors. When and why he or any of them all took theirs off I'm unsure, but he was televised instead of just Film Clip, so not sure why there isn't more complete footage that negates this He Never Wore a Hat myth.
@@Highland_Paddy
A quick Google search and you are correct. I had gotten my information from word of mouth as opposed to historical research. However, he put the top hat on just for the swearing in, as a nod to history, then took it off before giving his speech. That day is still referred to as, "the day the hat died" as no president since then has even ceremoniously donned a formal hat for even the swearing in part of innaguration day.
@@chadlaughlin-vr7yf Yes, but I think that if people really look at the photographic record, the hat was already dying amongst young people for well over a decade or almost two before, which means that by the time the mid-60s rolled around, they weren't just out of fashion because of JFK. Elvis and James dean and preppy style and all that were pretty much all without hats.
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Undoubtedly correct. It still has symbolic effect that JFK wore a hat for the swearing in, but not for his speech. A conscious move on his part, as a fashion conscious President, undoubtedly
I remember when the movie came out we started selling these hats at my family's mom and pop menswear store. So of course, 12 year old me had one!
I started this self-improvement journey a few years ago. Early on I learned from you and others the importance of the hat. I regularly wear my gray fedora and always get compliments.😊
Any grey Fedora is just *the* everyday hat! Great choice, no matter the specifics and material, heck I have... 6 grey Fedoras in all kinds of materials, from Toyo summer versions over wool felt ones for uncomplicated maintenance to expensive fut felt ones - always great to complement almost any suit!
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Let's not forget Tom Baker's fourth Doctor hat, that I believe was also a HJ poets fedora 😁
you can still buy it from them.
Back in 2007, I purchased a crushable Indiana Jones style hat for hiking. It was the beginning of a fedora journey as I started wearing it for other occasions. I've purchased several other fedora style hats over the past decade and a half. I seldom leave home without one of my hats.
Yes in Canada I used to visit the Biltmore Hat company and bought several of their hats before they closed. They made hats for the military and also the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (aka the Mounties). The original "hat trick" for you Canadian hockey fans, were largely Biltmore hats that were thrown on the ice. I believe they were bought by Stetson which still produces a few lines. Thanks for the memories.
Well done, Ash! Thank you for the history lesson which was news to me.
I started my Fedora life with an Italian Borsolino which was quite smart but did not survive rough and wet wear (S.Asian monsoons did it in).
At that point, I switched to a more robust fedora.
In the North America, Stetson has far greater name brand and their Fedora (the Stratoliner) is a terrific hat. I’ve worn mine in what would be properly described as “town and country” and it has stood the test of time (20+ years so far).
While not bespoke, you can get 1/4 sizes as well as oval or round forms. At half the price of its U.K. brother, it is my choice.
BTW, Another Stetson to consider is the Open Road worn by many US presidents and more than a few cattlemen. Most recently it was the hat worn by the US Marshall in the TV show Justified.
Just remember, wearing a hat is absolutely a sign that you are approaching Chap nirvana!
Best wishes,
JR
Detective Dick Tracy: the OG fedora boss!
Great outfit and combination of colors in today's video! Greetings from Zagreb
Thank you! 😊
Well. Now I need one
Go and get down in that fedora rabbit hole now!! Im there and .......loving it! (Maxwell Smart)
@@johnduffin9425 Sounds like a good plan. I bought one years ago, and while it wasn't all that high quality, I've never forgotten it. Perhaps it's time for an upgrade!
Yes you do - go for it! ^^
But be aware that it's a slippery slope, you may well end up owning Homburgs and whatnot in the end...
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz... who has way too many hats anyway
@@RaoulKunz1 I'll have to take that risk, I suppose! Thank you friend!
I wear a western style hat but shorter brim, only 3.5" brim. A stetson carson. I have a black fedora for more formal occasions where black is necessary.
I used to wear a hat very close to the indy for years as well. Love my hats :)
Way cool! Thank you for putting this together. We are turning the corner on the season. I'll be stashing my Grateful Dead ball cap and going for the Hat Man flat cap. When I'm not moving at the speed of heat and wearing my Shuberth C5 full-face helmet, that is.
I have to say that unfortunately the Poet has taken over their catalogue ,In 2022 I purchased a Forge Trilby from them ,No longer available am sad to say. On their online blog there is a picture of a Top Hat, fetched up from the Titanic, The inside badge is still clearly visible, These hats were made to last. Very enjoyable video,Great stuff.
What are things I found interesting about the hats, is in order to get it look as crushed and weathered as it does in the first film, they had Harrison Ford sit on it. Also, according to the behind-the-scenes features of Raiders of the lost Ark, the first hat was not the poet, it is what they called the Australian model. I believe the poet was selected for one of the later films probably last Crusade? But I’m not 100% sure
Yeah, eight years ago or more I watched some extensive vids about all this Indy stuff and the Temple hat is not blocked at all the same as the Raiders one with the higher crown, etc.
James Spader’s “Red” Reddington from “The Blacklist” is the only modern-day character who comes to mind that wears a fedora. It certainly merits a place in any chap’s wardrobe!
James Spader's hats aka Raymond Reddington were made by Borsalino the oldest Italian company specializing in the manufacture of luxury hats.
I spent a month in Australia earlier in the year and became a big fan of Australian men’s hats, which are close to a fedora in style, but with a wider brim. I bought one in light tan
I wear Akubra and Stetson hats. Also have a custom built Tatton Baird out of Utah. Here in Arizona.
Thank you. Fantastic history. I love the fedora. My granddad wore one everyday. I wont get a Johnson hat but I can get a cheap knockoff here. Like newsboy hats too.
I do love the vintage Herbert Johnson hats, and have a few. Their older bowlers are on a par with Lock and Co. Another brand I have. I have the poets fedora, but bought it cheaply on ebay. There are a great many older brands that are available if you can find them in your size. Scott and co are very good quality as are Tress or Simpsons. My Homburg hat is made by Tress and is probably around 40 yrs old. A great video Ash. Anything that encourages people to adopt good quality headwear gets my vote. 🫡
Herbert Johnson makes phenomenal hats. I commissioned a Build of the Jack Nicholson Joker Hat and it’s amazing quality and looks like it just came off the set of Batman 89.
I wore my somewhat battered fedora to the hospital this morning, I do not recall seeing anyone else wearing one.
I had the opportunity to handle one of these at the Swaine boutique in Piccadilly/Burlington(??) Arcade. One couldn’t help but feel like Indy holding that thing. The young sales associate had no idea what I meant when I said to my wife
“I didn’t know you could fly a plane”…” Fly , yes….Land, no”…
Neither did my wife for that matter 🤷🤣
Yes, you are quite correct in saying that baseball is absolutely "not a thing" in the UK.
Strangely though, the baseball bat is surprisingly popular with some segments of the population... 🤠
I wear a (lookalike) every once in a while. Definitely retro, the brim helps with both Sun and rain and it’s a welcome companion in the winter season.
Ive got Herbert Johnsons Crusade Poet and absolutely love it, but it took a bit to get comfortable in it and even longer to come up with outfits to wear it with where it didn't feel like a costume. The only bespoke piece in my wardrobe and priced to match, but wildly worth it.
I have at least one Stetson that was really more a budget price. Akubra cost more than most I have come across, but they also have their less expensive wool line instead of the felt, but they're about the only brand that has the widest brims, but can't find the Aussie Burma 5" brims anywhere.
Always thought the fedora hat was really nice. Wanted one for a long time but I would have to say I have been very hesitant because I am worried about having it look like I am going over the top. We will see, I hope one day to get over it before they stop making it. Great video Ash. Thanks!
Go for it! Start with a good but cheap one not right away with a Poet if you end up not liking it, I'd suggest grey, very versatile - and remember that the Fedora *is* a rather less formal everyday-wear hat - after all it's not a Homburg, not even a bowler, the *other* everyday hat for a really long time.
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
@@RaoulKunz1 Thank you for the support! I'll keep in mind and continue on the hunt.
Hats off to the Fedora. “Here’s looking at you kid. “ Thanks for the history lesson.
Not many people look as good as Harrison Ford while wearing it.
It is an undoubted classic, Ash, & pleasing to know that they're being offered by bespoke Hatters, Johnson's. Like your good self, I have little to no hair upon my head; this would be an adequate solution (tho' dropping a shade under five hundred pounds is a consideration all its own); that said, I am tempted...Thank you for the detailed history of this emblematic piece of head gear,
Best,
Andrew
Worn Fedoras and Panamas since 1986 and lice enforced total (as in TOTAL) shave in Saudi Arabia. Current Fedora is more battered than Harrisons! First Panama was crushed by a fellow passenger's overhead baggage. Strangers often try my hats on and get upset when admonished! Hats are very personal. My hats and cravats in 50-degree heat are my signature now in Iraq! I bought mine from a hatter in Beirut who was inconveniently blown to bits a few years back. Not to worry as I have a replacement in Madrid!
Very informative, as is the norm on this channel.
Many of your vids feature shaving & shaving products. I wonder if you have ever tried palm stropping your de blades after use?. I have been employing the practice for many decades. It can extend the useful life of a blade by many more shaves. Was taught by my uncle who was a lancaster rear gunner during ww2. He was a superb exponent of the art.
He was so encouraging to myself in my early venture into wet shaving. Back then, cut throat & early de razors. Such a sea change in shaving when wilkinson sword released the first stainless blades. Wet shaving has such a fascinating & rich history!.
I would like to try stropping a blade, I have heard it works well. A skill for me to try soon.
I have 4 hats shaped more or less like the one on the table (narrow rimmed fedora?). Grey and beige straw for summer, dark grey and beige chequered felt for winter. A dark grey felt pork pie and a black felt fedora, and a somewhat odd losely woven trilby (also for summer, but more casual than the straw hats). And a handful of different flat caps. I never leave the house with a bare head.
I used to also have a wider brimmed fedora, but somehow it didn't suit my face shape... always looked a bit odd, so I gave it away to a friend.
A boater and a Homburg seem tempting - but unfortunately I stick out like a sore thumb already wearing a proper hat at all, so I don't know. And I always have the limited space in my hallway warderobe as an excuse to stop buying more hats (or coats and jackets). It addictive!
I never leave my house without a hat. Mostly I choose a fedora with a wide brim.
I started wearing fedoras when I was about 14 years old, which was in the early 1990s.
Needless to say that I was initially ridiculed by my mates at my post-1980's Austrian school but I stayed the course and hats became one my signature features. 🙂
These type hats can still be seen in quite large numbers in the British horse racing scene and are almost part of the uniform of horse trainers.I think it lends great style to a horse race meeting.Fortunately there are still a couple of well known makers in London’s St James area
When in search of fauna or flora,
When you are an explorer,
You need a fedora,
At least one or more -a.
Great stuff, Ash!
When considering any felt hat there is a huge difference in quality and durability between those that are made of fur felt (rabbit, beaver, etc.) and wool (ie sheep) felt. Wool felt is fine for making billiard table coverings, but its not so good for making hats. Wool felt reacts very badly to getting wet, often shrinking and becoming mis-shaped. A fur-felt hat, however will retain its shape, and will shed water admirably.
You will pay more for a fur felt hat (starting at around £200 for rabbit fur, £400 or so for beaver fur) but if you want a hat that's going to last a lifetime (like Indiana Jones') then spend the money to buy a proper piece of headwear.
yes, but most people won't wear them enough these days for any reasons other than Halloween costume for it to matter. Also, I have dry hot weather most the year...............
@@Highland_Paddy Fair points. I wouldn't say "don't" get an inexpensive wool-felt fedora for occasional use.
For me, the biggest reason for me to wear a hat is practical. I want the hat to keep the sun, or rain, or wind off my head and face. If you've got to walk any distance in the rain, even with an umbrella, a good hat really finishes the job of keeping your head warm and dry. Ergo, if I was going to wear a hat, then I'd want one that could handle getting wet. And once I got to my destination, I'd want the hat to be of good quality as I hung it on the hat-stand (assuming they had such a convenience) rather than part of a Halloween costume.
I love my toquilla straw panama hat. And I wear it quite a lot on sunny days. But I do take care it doesn't get caught in the rain. If I were to make a fedora part of my practical wardrobe, I'd keep that in mind.
@@vrdrew63 I have a couple bush things that are supposedly waterproof that are the waxed cloth deal for such events, but also one was SUPPOSED to be waterproof and WASN'T!!!
I kind of really want this one felt one that might get soon just because, but certainly not bespoke and requiring flight to London, etc. AND I wear my hats as much as possible, unlike casual peep s who might need one good one or not, like I said.
@@Highland_Paddy I'm thinking about buying a Borsalino fedora. This is the brand worn by Humphrey Bogart (and Ingrid Bergman!) in the 1942 film Casablanca. And I think that with their rabbit-felt models they hit a very nice price/quality point. They can be ordered without a visit, but still best to double check your size. (I'll note, they do charge a premium for their "Humphrey-Bogart-estate "-labelled models. But there are plenty of other options.)
The problem I have with the 'Indiana Jones' fedora is the colour. A brown hat says, to me at least, "adventurer". But that's not really who I am, or who I want to appear as, when I'm wearing a nice fur-felt hat. Most of my suits and smart clothes are in a grey and/or blue tone, and I think a brown hat is going to clash with that. And so a dark gray probably works best for me with the clothes and situations where I'm going to wear such a hat.
If you are an "adventurer", then a brown fedora is great. But that ain't who I am!
my love of hats, has had direct coloration with my receding hairline
I know people who've bought one. Popped into the store, got measured and placed an order. Maybe I will too.
The Nicholson Joker hat, A mixture of a tall Gambler Crown with a Porkpie top and a wide Fedora Brim.
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you Sir!
I remember my Granddad having a brown fedora (his pre dated Dr Jones gracing our screens by a couple of decades) and I remember wearing it and pretending to be Indie as a kid...sadly my Dad was never a hat guy and I believe the fedora along with almost all of Granddad's clothes found their way to charity shops after he passed away
Hey Ash, I would love to get a video with your take on the Newsboy/Baker Boy cap. It seems like the last holdout of classic style hats without being outdated.
I do have a video on the flat cap in the back catalogue sir.
i buy my first classic hat in 2012 , at age 36 , was a felth trilby , still wear it , and i got other 3 and 2 fedoras , and also 3 fedora for summer and trilby , and i also got some flat cap and baker boy befor that was wearing army cap , or bini , , i like wear hats , wear one almost every day . and i never like basbal caps
As a Fedora enthusiast I have to shamefully admit that I don't own a Herbert Johnson Cairo Poet.
But wait! I own a hat that *closely* resembles the Poet, though closer to the Float-plane Poet in grey - the reason why I have this one and not the original is not the price (it's an expensive hat anyway if made from proper fur-felt as this one is) but the fact that I could specify virtually every element as to the colouring so I got one in a lighter grey - since a brown hat is not as useful as the films imply - with a "storm grey" band and a respectable selection of sizes in quarter cm steps.
It's also not really a typical Fedora, or at least not in the modern sense - this is clearly an interbellum Fedora with straight sides, a fairly aggressive denting and a single crease in the quite substantially high crown - and it looks *awesome!*
I sometimes feel I should have gotten the Float Plane Poet, and I might still go for it, but I feel the "IJ" is silly, yes he like being called Indy, bet he's Prof. Henry Jones Jr.. Always respect academic titles!🤣
Altogether I have to admit liking it especially in the context that I have moved towards more interbellum Fedoras as a whole over the years - don't know if it's to blame for this but it's an awesome prop and a testament to the long lived nature of the Fedora since it's one of the rare dress hats that works equally well with suits and more casual dress.
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Great episode. Though I´m not a hat guy. But always willing to listen to argument in favour of HATS. Cheers mate.
I have a collection of IJ hats including a HJ Fedora.
Isn't it sad that the hat has seemingly lost its allure for most men and women these days?
I have heard that if you want to make an iconic character, they should have a unique and instantly identifiable silhouette. Indy's fedora is one of the main things that gives him his silhouette. Simple but clever.
and then they got lazy in the subsequent films with inferior crown shape versions
Besides that hat, u can't forget his iconic bag, the gas mask bag!
I have one, it's a knock-off, but I wear it all the time, and every single time I wear it, someone will complement me on the hat.
Perhaps someday I would choose to wear such things. Colors up your character a little bit more, maybe a lot more.
Hats ceased quite suddenly in the US in 1963 when Kennedy did not wear his top hat to his inauguration. Eisenhauer wore his, sitting in the limo next to him, but Kennedy played with his and never put it on. In the next week, men put their hats away, never more to appear. "If the President can do it …" Sad. Males did not wear hats until they reached 18, and I was to turn 18 that June. I was looking forward to donning my hat and joining the ranks of men. Such a disappointment.
If you are dismayed about the lack of good hats being worn where you are, drop down to Exeter, I have invited you via email before. I never leave the house without a hat on. Normally it's one of my Fedoras, but may be a Bowler, a Homberg, or perhaps even a topper instead.
The ultimate parent is the French shipping company Chargeurs.
I love the look of a Fedora and I’m sad that dress hats have fallen out of fashion. I once read that one cause was John F Kennedy, who was proud of his hairstyle and was one of the first major public figures to eschew the wearing of a hat in public.
I have two lightweight, fairly casual straw Trilby hats that I wear during the summer. I also have a wide-brim Aussie Akubra hat that I wear when I have to go out in the rain. I’d like to wear a felt Fedora regularly but I feel that I would find it hard to pull that off without looking like I’m playing a character.
Just wear it like an item which belongs to you, not like an accessory you feel weird about wearing - I know this sounds not entirely helpful and deceptively simple and really hard but trust me, it works, I've been wearing hats for more than two decades now - just wear it, people will get used to it if *you* get used to it.
Great, now I feel like a "live-improvement-imposter" who wants to sell you his book.😅
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
I have the full Indy outfit from Wested leather. It is topped by a standard Fedora, which is lower in the crown than a Poet. I have given it a more RotLA shape by steaming and manipulating it. Sadly a genuine Poet is outside of any justified purchase as I won't get the wear out of it.
Great video. I too was shocked at the hammer price.
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Mite start seeing more hats worn as face recognition cameras become the norm 🤣😂🤣
You mention the hat & whip what about his sidearm a Smith & Wesson M1917 or an S&W mark 11hand ejector
Or that it's pretty much impossible to find lightweight beige shirts with that shoulder piping or whatever.
Question for all. What is the best gadget to use to hang your fedora hat from on the edge of a bar top?? Asking for a friend.
I am mostly casual but enjoy a nice suit or tweed and sometimes with a hat. Sadly the UK mature male is heading to way of the Trump baseball cap and badly fitted fast fashion/leisurewear. I have an Indy leather jacket. I am no Harrison Ford so a little shy of acquiring a nice fedora. If you can carry off sporting a good hat do it!
In my small community of roughly five thousand people, I am the ONLY man who wears a fedora. (It's a classic grey fur felt model made by Stetson, and paired with a vintage tan Burberry trench coat, it makes me feel like I am channeling my inner Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca.)
The baseball cap, which I think is inappropriate for anyone except children or baseball players, is sadly ubiquitous, and is a part of the uniform of those men who have seemingly given up on having any pretense of being stylish: sneakers, jeans or baggy cargo shorts, graphic t-shirts, hoodies, and baseball caps are worn by men between the ages of five and seventy-five.
When did it become the norm for grown men to dress like small children?
I strongly concur! It's honestly quiet pathetic and I have always refused to be parts of this idiocy!
It's really voluntary infantilisation for the sake of laziness, er, "comfort" (strangely enough though I've never found my MTM suits to be uncomfortable...) and it looks abysmal...
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Strange that despite all the thinking that went into his look, Indy was never allocated a watch until the most recent instalment (& only then as a money-making afterthought).
Hats are for those of us who are blessed with less hair with which to be bothered. Never leave the house without. 😉
I wear a wooly hat because I have no hair. I feel like a commoner.
On a serious note, I like the fedora style but I'd probably get a kicking for wearing one in this deprived town, they might think I know big words like "train".
I should have never left my home town, they used words with more than two syllables.
Ash, are you going to give us that smirk and expect us to think that you haven't decided that at some point in your life, you have to own one? Because I know that thought. I have it myself. Am I paying 500 pounds for a hat that I won't wear? Not now I'm not. But do I think I would be living life to the fullest if I didn't at some point treat myself to that hat, live just a little bit as Indy or Cary Grant did, and feel what it makes me feel? Well, that's a different question. I really have no need for it, but on the other hand, how can I not get it eventually?
"Base-Ball" is a childish expression from 1744 for Rounders, picked up by the Americans. It is basically a kids game and I can see no reason for a chap (or any adult) to wear such a hat, especially not in public (cf. The Persuaders)
I only recognize three Indy movies.
saves time
When I got my Fedora, a Stetson gray Stratoliner, I steered clear of the Indy color. I was not going to spend $250 for a Cosplay costume item. The Indy hat is a great hat, but I am not Indiana Jones. If I wear his hat, I am trying to appropriate his status, and that is just wrong, to me.
I still wear my grandfather's Stetson stratoliner that he purchased in 1948. It is the lighter colored I believe they call it silver belly. Pretty much the same color as Stetsons open road hat
If you lost it, they'd be looking for an I.J. to return it to 🧐
The Temple version isn't even the correct blocking the crown height and such...........
Inexpensive versions similar to Indy hat will all get called Indy hats, too, but then most people ne'er e'en came CLOSE when tryna buy Crocodile Dundee hats and the whole Aussie hat thing has a separate vibe but often also get called Indy hats. [Most people only buy them for Halloween costumes now?]
Cowboy Western hats were quite popular in the late 70s and early 80s in the US, but there were too many styles between civilian use and cowboy movies to really keep track, and good luck finding one that was really the same as whatever character ye may have been thinking of from Lone Ranger to Clint Eastwood, so Indy definitely filled some void for guys who wanted to look rugged but not wear just "cowboy" hat, but didn't really take hold much in the urban world for actual hat sales, I'll wager.
Yes, VERY hard to find proper old-style safari hats, too. Most defer again to the Aussie styles now or the boonie hats rather than hunt down a mega-expensive custom one or bother with pith helmets. [Or that it's pretty much impossible to find lightweight beige shirts with that shoulder piping or whatever.]
But then when Indy gets his hat in the 3rd movie, it's just from some dirtbag scrounger guy and not academia at all. Kinda meh part the backstory, really?
When the fedora first came out, 'twas bowlers and top hats still the most popular with men? [apart from your flat caps and such, which are much more affordable and give way to the baseball caps for same reason.]