I think its the best range ammo money can buy. 1000s of rounds, never had a bad primer, or a dud whatsoever. Its my shtf ammo , as its all i trust as far as range ammo that will double for carry. Had a bunch of duds with white box, and even federal champion None with this fiocchi Shoots hard too. Feels like full power defensive loads
Used a lot of it years ago. Was the cheapest ammo at big box store. Pallets of 9 and 380 in isle. But not so much now. 380 not as reliable as other brands. They have awesome ammo in rifle caliber. 7mm 08 SST poly Tip super accurate. 40g 223😱 barrel burner and accurate. Bolt action required. 55g 223 very accurate.
I appreciate you making this video and everyone that posted. I haven't used any fioochi 9mm ammo and it is good to hear that everyone likes it. One of the reasons that I haven't used any Fioochi 9mm ammo is because I had a bad experience with their 150gr 300 BLK ammo. It ran in my old MCX, but at 100yds the rounds were all over the paper. Based on everyone's comments to this video, I am going to have to try it again.
See the full 23-load test series here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-9mm-range-ammo-guide Fiocchi's 9AP is one of the softest loads we found, that can be a good or bad thing depending on your needs.
I've not used any Fiocchi until the last few months and have found the training dynamics will not run at all in the Beretta APX A1 because the recoil spring is so strong, presumably made for NATO loads. Standard 124 grain runs fine in the Beretta. I've not had issues with the Fiocchi in any other pistols, but a few fellows at my range indicate they have. It's definitely weaker than most other popular brands, Before the Fiocchi, I've used Blazer, Federal, Remington, Magtech and S& B, and all are excellent. To my eye the Blazer and Federal are identical and probably come from the same factory. Though also owned by CCI now, the Remington comes out of their Arkansas plant.
Just got finished with a case of this. Can't say I had any problems shooting it, but I never paid much attention to the numbers of it. Into a case of LAX Ammo 124 grain (factory new) now. Same deal, never really paid much attention to the numbers, but would kinda like to see how it stacks up to other brands in the real world.
Ive been afraid of buying this stuff. There's SO much of this store are a local store of mine and no one ever touches it, even when it goes on sale. Im always afraid to try new ammo. Hate buying just to have a miserable time at the range doing "malfunction drills" instead of shooting
Fiocchi is about as good as it gets for cheap range ammo. It's a little cleaner than Blazer, and I've shot over 30,000 rounds of it without a single ammo related malfunction. It's been used by the Italian military since WWI and has been around for over 140 years. The stuff you find in the US is made in their US factory and GTG. Their boxes are also the smallest in the business, so they take up less space. It's what I usually buy, unless Blazer is significantly cheaper at the time.
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Disappointing for what purpose? Range ? Precision? Self defense? Gaming? Varmint control? The BIG benefit of 9 Para is the versatility of its loads - it can do almost anything well (or at least OK), but not stupendously great. What are you using it for? Why is it disappointing?
See how Fiocchi ranks oout of 11 loads tested so far: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-best-range-ammo-quest-part-4
I think its the best range ammo money can buy. 1000s of rounds, never had a bad primer, or a dud whatsoever.
Its my shtf ammo , as its all i trust as far as range ammo that will double for carry.
Had a bunch of duds with white box, and even federal champion
None with this fiocchi
Shoots hard too. Feels like full power defensive loads
Good reliably feeding stuff.
Thanks, ... Really good to see ammunition reviews.
There was a time when Winchester white box was $12 a box and less !
Used a lot of it years ago. Was the cheapest ammo at big box store. Pallets of 9 and 380 in isle. But not so much now. 380 not as reliable as other brands. They have awesome ammo in rifle caliber. 7mm 08 SST poly Tip super accurate. 40g 223😱 barrel burner and accurate. Bolt action required. 55g 223 very accurate.
Going through 2 cases of this right now. 115 & 124. I like it. The 124 is a lil on the spicy side. Thanks for the share!!
I Run the Fiocchi 115gr 9mm never had any problem feeDing It's some good Ammo
I appreciate you making this video and everyone that posted. I haven't used any fioochi 9mm ammo and it is good to hear that everyone likes it. One of the reasons that I haven't used any Fioochi 9mm ammo is because I had a bad experience with their 150gr 300 BLK ammo. It ran in my old MCX, but at 100yds the rounds were all over the paper. Based on everyone's comments to this video, I am going to have to try it again.
See the full 23-load test series here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-9mm-range-ammo-guide Fiocchi's 9AP is one of the softest loads we found, that can be a good or bad thing depending on your needs.
I've not used any Fiocchi until the last few months and have found the training dynamics will not run at all in the Beretta APX A1 because the recoil spring is so strong, presumably made for NATO loads. Standard 124 grain runs fine in the Beretta. I've not had issues with the Fiocchi in any other pistols, but a few fellows at my range indicate they have. It's definitely weaker than most other popular brands, Before the Fiocchi, I've used Blazer, Federal, Remington, Magtech and S& B, and all are excellent. To my eye the Blazer and Federal are identical and probably come from the same factory. Though also owned by CCI now, the Remington comes out of their Arkansas plant.
I also had good groups from this ammo. I dont see it on shelves as much anymore..
Pre-Plandemic I was buying Fiocchi, it was in a green box, fmj 9mm for $8.99/box of 50 ...
Pre-plandemic I could buy a 1000 rounds of wolf 115 grain full metal jackets for about 120 bucks I miss those days
@@djjaysky9071 , yeah, I was also buying Speer Gold Dot jhp in 357Sig for $27.99 box of 50.
Yup! The good o’l days! Cheapest I’ve seen 9mm for a box of 50 rounds these days is about $11 dollars pre tax.
Looking forward to that PMC Bronze!
Oh wow you're a great shooter
Thank you
Best 115gr range ammo on the market!
Some of the softest stuff out there too
Just got finished with a case of this. Can't say I had any problems shooting it, but I never paid much attention to the numbers of it. Into a case of LAX Ammo 124 grain (factory new) now. Same deal, never really paid much attention to the numbers, but would kinda like to see how it stacks up to other brands in the real world.
See the pinned comment. We've got 11 loads tested and charted so far, more on the way
@@GBGuns Saw Freedom Munitions listed, are they actually the same load, just with different labeling?
Freedom Munitions has their own factory
LAX ammo jammed in my Guns
Good ammunitions
I really appreciate that comparison chart of all of the brands! Thanks for that labor and please keep it going!...........................elsullo
Damn Fiocchi saving on powder!
Ive been afraid of buying this stuff.
There's SO much of this store are a local store of mine and no one ever touches it, even when it goes on sale.
Im always afraid to try new ammo. Hate buying just to have a miserable time at the range doing "malfunction drills" instead of shooting
Gnocchi is good stuff, to see how it ranks against tenothercommon range loads see the pinned comment.
Fiocchi is about as good as it gets for cheap range ammo. It's a little cleaner than Blazer, and I've shot over 30,000 rounds of it without a single ammo related malfunction. It's been used by the Italian military since WWI and has been around for over 140 years. The stuff you find in the US is made in their US factory and GTG. Their boxes are also the smallest in the business, so they take up less space. It's what I usually buy, unless Blazer is significantly cheaper at the time.
Federal American Eagle?
It’s the best ammo going.
Good, Thx
Love Oregon Gun people, great video.
Have you tested S&B ? I like it because the price is decent and their 50-round boxes are the smallest.
Yes, the full 23-load test is here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-9mm-range-ammo-guide
Norma 115
I've been carrying seismic 185 grain subsonic hollow points so far I like the ammo but it's way expensive
VERY expensive. That's why we've never tried it. Betweent he cost for a box and shipping costs to Oregon it's nuts!
Wow? All the Fiocchi ammo I've seen claims 1200 fps on the box?
And this was a longer barrel than spec. Our numbers should be higher than advertised.
@@GBGuns that's right..aren't those numbers based on a 4" barrel length? Thought I heard that somewhere?
@@rod675 they should be
Nothing but light primer strikes
That sounds like a firearm issue, worn firingpin/striker or weak spring.
I have a 1911 double stack that doesn't like the primers.
Maybe a soft hammer spring in that gun or you got a batch with hard or proud primers
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Not even breaking 1100 for a 115gr? Kinda disappointing
Standard chronograph should be 10ft. 21ft would take a 9mm down from 1110fps to 1099 etc..
Disappointing for what purpose? Range ? Precision? Self defense? Gaming? Varmint control? The BIG benefit of 9 Para is the versatility of its loads - it can do almost anything well (or at least OK), but not stupendously great. What are you using it for? Why is it disappointing?
Keep in mind these numbers are higher as I'm using a 4.25" barrel, but yes, this is the second-softest of eleven loads tested so far.
That's probably a good thing, had a Case split from front to back this last outing.
With the Fiocchi 9AP?@@shannonfritsch6647
Yea I js stole sum of these bullets from the store they mid made my Glock jam👎
It's likely not the ammo causing your issues.
@@GBGuns nah I was jp Shi worked flawless 💯
@@GBGuns the only problem I got with it is sometimes failure to feed
Thought Glocks don't jam 😂
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Hey there Who Tee!
@@stevenkennedy4130 hey!
Dang good group
Appreciate the tests - data.
Well it was good a year ago last 4 lots we have gotten 7 guns blew up over charges. So will not use this ammo till things change
Thanks for the update
S&b 115, ppu 115
I have heard mixed reviews. Does 115 gr recoil more or less than say a 142 gr? Thanks for the help
Usually, the heavier weights have heavier recoil.
It's great just not the best for defense. But I'd still use it if that's what I had
Better than nothing, but fmj for defense is not recommended
🇦🇺😎👍Nice !
Sure