9x19 FMJ Is All Ammo Created Equal?

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  • Paul tests different 9mm FMJ ammo against each other.
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  • @Isaac_5.56x45
    @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    I walked up to the counter at the gun store and asked to see the Berreta 92fs chambered in 9x19, while wearing an old Sears hunting coat.
    The man said, so you watch Paul Harrell too huh?

    • @jameschristiansson3137
      @jameschristiansson3137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Are you what we call a professional?

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@jameschristiansson3137 I guess you could call me one, because I hit my target 60% of the time, every time.

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@jameschristiansson3137 edit:
      You be the judge.

    • @davidw835
      @davidw835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I usually start my conversations with, please bear with gun fire and your experiences and your training may be different.

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@davidw835 And pardon my Shatner - esque
      pauses.

  • @surfingonmars8979
    @surfingonmars8979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +773

    Whenever PH says, “this is the boring part where I talk a lot,” or, “this will be a little dry,” I say, “OH YEAH! Science and data and measurements!” And I know I am not alone. The man delivers the data and we all learn from it while sipping coffee in the kitchen, or a Diet Coke in some other equally comfy location. Thank you, sir.

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The artificial sweeteners in diet sodas are worse for you than regular sodas.
      Best to avoid soda, period.

    • @Gizmomaster
      @Gizmomaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’m drinking Diet Coke and scotch my man!! Gotta keep those calories down!

    • @tysontomko
      @tysontomko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      As a certified dental assistant he disliked the soda comment lol

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I prefer chocolate milk, thank you. :D

    • @KoshN
      @KoshN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@James_Bee I drink regular soda (very rarely anything with phosphoric acid, like Coke anymore), e.g. 7Up or other lemon-lime varieties, root beer or ginger ale (preferring Canada Dry BOLD when I can find it), or regular Gatorade Orange, sparingly, or Bubly.

  • @samuel61762
    @samuel61762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I see a new Paul Harrell notification and I rush to TH-cam faster than a Remington Green-and-White Box 9x19 115 Grain Full Metal Jacket Round Nose through a chronograph.

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    "It's going to be very dry."
    Then give it to me dry Paul Harrell.

    • @hermatred572
      @hermatred572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We didn't click on a 7 way comparison for fluff

    • @marcuschauvin7039
      @marcuschauvin7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Rough, dry and hard... hell throw some sand it!

    • @MesaperProductions
      @MesaperProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The best martinis are

    • @skeletonwguitar4383
      @skeletonwguitar4383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Lack of hydration" Mr Harrell, need to hydrate

    • @ekscalybur
      @ekscalybur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yalls weird.

  • @classicgunstoday1972
    @classicgunstoday1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Geco. 15 minutes of shooting will lose you 15% or more in accuracy.

  • @Stevarooni
    @Stevarooni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    [Paul, casually] Today we're going to compare eight brands of ammunition for velocity and accuracy, without any kind of sponsorship. As one does.
    [Gun magazine editor] *throws his hands up* Well, there goes our September edition.

    • @abc-wv4in
      @abc-wv4in 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wish someone had sent some Federal American Eagle as that's what I have the most of.

    • @TerminalM193
      @TerminalM193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abc-wv4in Hold onto that stuff. By far the best fmj round for accuracy and practice purposes.

  • @BlameTheController
    @BlameTheController 2 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    Considering how cheap Blazer Brass is, im surprised with the effectiveness
    I would be curious to see the difference if any between Brass vs Aluminum Vs Steel

    • @aquablue6301
      @aquablue6301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      If I'm not mistaken, Blazer is a CCI product. I've found their products to be of above average quality. YMMV

    • @leroyjenkins4811
      @leroyjenkins4811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It’s weird. Blazer Brass always jams in all my pistols. I always have failures to extract and the fired shells get stuck in the chambers. It takes significant effort to get them out. I’ve never had any other problems with any other brass cased, steel cased, or aluminum cased ammo.

    • @burtbiggum499
      @burtbiggum499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@leroyjenkins4811 That is ironic blazer has always been my go to

    • @waldojim42
      @waldojim42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@leroyjenkins4811 Got a new 9mm recently, first stuff I put through it was a couple boxes of aluminum blazer just to see how it would go. Cycled every round perfectly. Could very well be difference in firearms.

    • @zzxxooooxxzz4964
      @zzxxooooxxzz4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aquablue6301 Yeah there made by cci which means there 22cal rimfire ammo is probably loaded on the same machine as the 22. Stingers and Velocitiers and just packed in bulk and sold cheaper but there 9mm and 45auto is junk I find it to be the worst...

  • @vinceblasco
    @vinceblasco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    That confirms my experience with S&B ammo: generally loaded a bit hotter, with good accuracy and consistency.

    • @CannaCJ
      @CannaCJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They do it right in the Czech Republic. Never had an issue with S&B, they duplicate the specs of older rounds well.

    • @karel3183
      @karel3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems that way. I use S&B and they seem way stronger than my own minimal handload. I wonder, is it safe to use with a silencer if the manual says not to use hotter ammo?

    • @jimbienkowski7857
      @jimbienkowski7857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      S&B is my go to range ammo. Been very happy with it

    • @shinigami1925
      @shinigami1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here, it is my preferred practice ammo in both the 124 and 115 grain versions. Also have had good results with the Norma red box 115.

    • @chadcarter5718
      @chadcarter5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karel3183 Probably not.

  • @calangel
    @calangel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Speer calls the load "Lawman" because it's designed for use in indoor LEO ranges by having a completely copper encapsulated slug (TMJ) to limit lead exposure. It's also hotter, to mimic LEO service loads.

    • @paulscountry456
      @paulscountry456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They really punch through wood ,I did a video on the 357 Sig lawman, 357 Sig TMJ

    • @9mmpeter255
      @9mmpeter255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sure it is

  • @ReverendBow
    @ReverendBow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Bravest deer in history.... they have no idea how quick they could be in a freezer if Paul decided to go rogue

    • @AOMartialArts
      @AOMartialArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol. Paul going rogue. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @barccy
      @barccy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Deer have an odd general habit of gravitating towards shooting. Maybe they think the noise is from antlers?

    • @richardpashos
      @richardpashos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      why on hunting you need to be silent and walk slowly if even shooting doesnt scare deers?

    • @barccy
      @barccy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richardpashos Because they know to associate cracking leaves and branches with potential threats.

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nawwww, the deer in the area simple know that when Paul's behind the trigger, their safe until hunting season.

  • @karel3183
    @karel3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Asking to remove the chronograph is like asking Bob Ross to skip painting trees or happy clouds.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Paul shows his work.
      Easy enough to listen to the numbers and do the math ourselves if we are so inclined.

  • @gregb6469
    @gregb6469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    If Paul left out the chronograph tests, how would we see the deer come up and check out the scene, as they seem to do so often in these videos?

    • @coltluger2079
      @coltluger2079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Would you miss an opportunity to see Paul in action? Those deer are lucky

    • @brahtrumpwonbigly7309
      @brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's lucky he doesn't shoot near a cow pasture. Those are the noisiest animals I've ever seen. Perhaps they are used to humans+noise=feeding time.

    • @TheActionBastard
      @TheActionBastard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Paul is so badass the deer have learned over time from him and now come to see his presentations as they're filmed so they've got the latest information on the weapons and ammo their enemies will be using.

    • @nunya3163
      @nunya3163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paul is just grooming them for hunting season. He'll call them in with each shot he makes, and then pick the one he wants.

    • @nicholaspatton5590
      @nicholaspatton5590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paul: “This content will be a little dry.”
      Deer: “OH BOY!”

  • @MVEZombie
    @MVEZombie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I feel like PH should do ted talks where he tours around the US and does presentations like this, but we get to stand there in person and watch. I'd pay for that.

    • @joeyoung1973
      @joeyoung1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Paul talks

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But TED Talk yappers typically are not legitimately expert, while Paul Harrell is truly a legitimate expert.
      However, I understand your desire to have Paul more widely heard.

    • @jimmyrustler8983
      @jimmyrustler8983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Audiobooks, too.

    • @maxpiemuse9584
      @maxpiemuse9584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Heck I'd go to a Paul concert and I've never even heard him sing.

    • @BenKlassen1
      @BenKlassen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ted talks seem to be for liberal weenies.

  • @JohnW-yv6yp
    @JohnW-yv6yp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Never heard the prononciation of Sellior and Bellot well done Paul lol

    • @ftdefiance1
      @ftdefiance1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Heck he needs to do a review of French 7 millimeter Long with Forgotten Weapons

    • @CM-ve1bz
      @CM-ve1bz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We Americans seem to have problems with some pronunciations.
      One of my favorites is Lapua. The common pronunciation in the US is La pu ah, when it's actually Lop Wah.

  • @JonDC70
    @JonDC70 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fiocchi must be rounding to the nearest 1200😂

  • @jrdeckard3317
    @jrdeckard3317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The meat targets breathed a sigh of relief.

    • @koltendavis4802
      @koltendavis4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no they haven't. We need the meat targets of these ammos.

    • @seeharvester
      @seeharvester 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@koltendavis4802
      S&B for the win. And it's affordable.

  • @jimvac77
    @jimvac77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "This will be dry, but informative."
    That should be the name of this channel. And I mean that with the utmost respect.

  • @adamrenissance3322
    @adamrenissance3322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Valid information is never boring.

  • @Isaac_5.56x45
    @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    When Paul uploads a new video, the world stops turning for a second.

    • @av8rk9
      @av8rk9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      true dat

    • @davesomeone4059
      @davesomeone4059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm listening to this in the shower. Can't wait till I'm done.

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davesomeone4059 That is a bit strange to be honest...

    • @numberlover8181
      @numberlover8181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It does for me. His videos are the ones that I look forward to most from any platform/app

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@numberlover8181 Same here, best around for sure.

  • @czjunky2045
    @czjunky2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Leave the chrono in Paul if people don’t want to see it they can aplastic forward like you advised

    • @tamlandipper29
      @tamlandipper29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aplastic?

    • @plot6520
      @plot6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aplastic?

    • @mattsmechanicalssi5833
      @mattsmechanicalssi5833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I had to guess, the use of aplastic may be some sort of autocorrect error as it's definition refers to the failure of an organ or tissue to develop or to function normally, with the most common being Aplastic Anemia.

    • @plot6520
      @plot6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattsmechanicalssi5833 now that's a rabbit hole I'd not expected

    • @cherno8119
      @cherno8119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it might be useful for him to seperate the video out into sections or chapters like I do with the tetris videos on my channel, though it might be a little tedious considering the average length of a video on this channel

  • @MarkJacksonGaming
    @MarkJacksonGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    -- Liked you adding the variations. Once again. Green and White box holds it's own as a good carry/practice munition for the price. Thanks Paul, thumbs up as always.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Green & White 124hp +P 9mm is what most of the firearms examiners carry in a very large and busy jurisdiction. Busy means lots of shootings/murder. Not stuff the the FBI gets its hands dirty on. Add: that's their personal choice for off-duty, not issue.

    • @MarkJacksonGaming
      @MarkJacksonGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuvBorderCollies -- Agreed. Retired Ranger, and 22 years a PSC. It's helped me and my team.

    • @nicholasdonin1465
      @nicholasdonin1465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a 45 hi point carbine I got a bull pup kit for. Now the only 45 it fires without fail is rem UMC.
      Sad because before that it would've fed rocks and fired rocks

  • @michaele1278
    @michaele1278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Yup here in Canada we're relegated to FMJ ammo. Nothing here expands except the left wing autocracy.

    • @allalbavincero
      @allalbavincero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      US sees the same expansion as well.

    • @kitosjek9541
      @kitosjek9541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@allalbavincero big corpos and warhawks = left wing ?

    • @Askorti
      @Askorti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That kind of expansion sure causes some serious wounds.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@kitosjek9541 Big Tech are Cultural Marxists to the core.

    • @burnyburnoutze2nd
      @burnyburnoutze2nd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Actually expanding handgun ammunition does exist here in Canada; it's just hard to find due to a severe lack of demand (why would you want expanding handgun ammunition in country where you literally can't shoot it anywhere but a range? The logic behind most dealers.)

  • @johnelder9919
    @johnelder9919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The Speer Lawman fmj was our practice ammunition and the Speer Gold Dot was our duty ammo (federal leo). My understanding was it was loaded similarly to the duty ammo so that you practice was similar to actual field preformance. In that same vein of thinking, your qualification rounds were always shot with duty ammo just to be sure you weapon was sighted in to your duty ammo. For what it's worth. Both are, in my experiance, excellent ammo.

  • @kb9oak749
    @kb9oak749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Paul: "This is going to be tedious". Comment section: "Excited noises."

    • @bobloblaw204
      @bobloblaw204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    • @biggunshandguns3687
      @biggunshandguns3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excited noises? That comment made me very uncomfortable and probably scare Paul to death

  • @hellpimp
    @hellpimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You know what, go ahead and mark me down as "leave the chronograph section in". I love the way Paul shares information.

  • @Novous
    @Novous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Criminal gets shot, looks at wound, about to die, then at me: "Cheap ammo? Seriously?"

    • @somebloke3869
      @somebloke3869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, cause I use the good stuff for hunting. Criminals get the cheap stuff, animals the expensive. Sounds fair.

    • @farklestaxbaum4945
      @farklestaxbaum4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      unless he's on crack and the fmj bullet passes straight through him so he continues to attack you until he bleeds out

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@farklestaxbaum4945 Then shoot em twice.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@somebloke3869
      Due to the high cost of ammo there will be no warning shot and If can read this you are in range.

    • @somebloke3869
      @somebloke3869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shawnr771 why only twice? Surely your magazine holds more than two rounds.

  • @Gizmomaster
    @Gizmomaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The Variation section you have on the velocity board is incredibly important. Rounds certainly vary but to have a variation above 40 FPS? That can be significant. I really appreciate you including that Paul!

    • @food_toobs8333
      @food_toobs8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is true. I would find it to be important especially when comparing the mean velocities. In the case of the Lawman ammo, I would be less concerned as the MV was almost 1200fps, vs the Geco where it’s velocity was incredibly low. As I reload, consistency is key, but you could be forgiven for a slightly wider range when your lowest velocity for a single round was higher than the highest velocity of the next closest round. Just my opinion. I’d be very curious on how these rounds would perform in the meat target as well. I know people will say “they’re FMJ, it’ll be the same”, but we just had a whole presentation on how that isn’t necessarily the case. Would they all retain their shape, would they keep their jackets or lose them, would they mushroom or fragment? I know the geometry of a bullet can make a difference, and if I remember correctly, the Fiocci ammo has more of a pointed cone, rather than a rounded nose, and some Lawman ammo has a flat face (I have a box of flat nose and a box of round nose). Given the commonality of these rounds, and in the case of military and some law enforcement, what would be the effectiveness against a meat target?

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@food_toobs8333 fmj’s are not crated equal as you imply. And as little as 50fps often makes a huge difference. Dumb ammo to use for hunting or defence but sometimes you don’t have a choice. Maybe you need something for wild animals and the only gun you have is a 9mm. It’d be nice to know you can push that thing 24” through a charging 4 legged monster and somewhere in that length do “stopping” damage.
      Really it’s all RPG stuff because none of use will ever have need for it. But for that one guy….. well I surely hope he’s paying attention.

    • @allalbavincero
      @allalbavincero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@food_toobs8333 If Paul really does a meat target on all those cartridge types, his family (or dogs only?) might be already refusing eating oranges and pork chops entirely.😂

    • @tlh31955
      @tlh31955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boogerdog5247 the difference between the highest and lowest is called the range. Standard deviations are computed differently. And a correlation coefficient is only computed for 2 different variables. You could do mean velocity vs range but that wasn't even discussed.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@allalbavincero
      Doesn't make much sense with fmj.

  • @bowencreer3922
    @bowencreer3922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I was literally just watching Paul Harrell videos and wondering when he was gonna post again. Lol

  • @sheldoniusRex
    @sheldoniusRex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the video. Nice to know that Blazer Brass and Sellier & Belot are equal to Remington and Winchester in performance. It really opens up the bulk purchase options.

  • @Bigshooterist
    @Bigshooterist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It makes me happy that there are still people interested in ballistic data collection. Numbers mean things. Strait forward and informative. Thank you. 🔥😎👍

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you mean "straightforward". Sorry, things like that just really bother me.

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I skipped the chrono work, but stayed for the analysis. Then I watched the target shooting, because the accuracy of various ammunition is interesting.

  • @21psd
    @21psd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn Paul, you shoot tighter groups at 25 than I do at 7. And please keep those chronograph tests coming!

  • @buscaderoticonda7270
    @buscaderoticonda7270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Responding to some questions below regarding the tested ammo - the GECO is made in Hungary, and the Fiocchi is made in Italy. (I gave them to Paul & have the boxes).

  • @jonhoward437
    @jonhoward437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Paul: "The firearm I'm going to use today is my Sig Saur M17..."
    Me: "No Beretta 92?" Starts hoarding toilet paper.

    • @9mmpeter255
      @9mmpeter255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Huh?

    • @jamespruitt6718
      @jamespruitt6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@9mmpeter255 usually Paul’s go to 9mm pistol is his Beretta 92. He even has a video on it being the last gun he would get rid of.

    • @sweet65mustang
      @sweet65mustang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@9mmpeter255 I think it's an end of times comment

    • @rebelliousgrayfox
      @rebelliousgrayfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn't the M17 recently adopted by the military? So a bunch of people will be using them as their service pistol, as well as LEOs who can carry a personal firearm (as opposed to being issued one). And lets not forget civilians are going to want them because they want military style weapons.

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rebelliousgrayfox It was a few years ago, now but yes. I'd say you're correct about that. Police and civilian trends tend to follow what the military is up to at the time. Oh and movies. Can't forget movies.

  • @cdee6096
    @cdee6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    We finally found Pauls fatal flaw- He can’t memorize 8 different ammunitions and variations in order.

    • @brahtrumpwonbigly7309
      @brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's it, he's off the project.

    • @sski
      @sski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're gonna have that on these bigger jobs.

    • @danielaramburo7648
      @danielaramburo7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He actually can, but pretends not to so his fans don’t feel to bad.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should watch some of his shotgun videos. Here it's just brand and bullet weight. They're all fmj.
      Shooting the right target with the right ammo might be a bigger concern here. I've seen it several times on other channels that they mess up the order or shoot the wrong target after they walked back.

    • @cdee6096
      @cdee6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@danielaramburo7648 I feel bad every time he shoots. Makes me see how much I suck

  • @scubaguy007
    @scubaguy007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sellier & Bellot 124gr FMJ is my favorite range ammo. I have always thought it was loaded a little hot, and yet pretty consistent. It groups real well for me in pretty much every 9mm I own.

    • @roccofilippi1418
      @roccofilippi1418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell out of my P365 the 115 is a little hotter...

    • @bobloblaw204
      @bobloblaw204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ scuba - I just grabbed a case of the s+b to put through my Ruger PC9. Price was right, and I am glad to see it performs decently. Thanks for the boost.

    • @abc-wv4in
      @abc-wv4in 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roccofilippi1418 Any 116 gr seems to have more recoil or more snappy recoil than 124 or 147. I like 147gr in my subcompacts, usually Lawman or American Eagle. For SD HST 147.

    • @roccofilippi1418
      @roccofilippi1418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 115 I was referring to was the S&B. It is probably the hottest round of any brand I have shot in the same grain. I should have just said S&B within my comment.

    • @SaundersE5
      @SaundersE5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer the S&B 124 gr over PMC, Blazer, Fiochi, Magtech, and Norma. But I get whichever of them is cheapest when I need some.

  • @sanninjiraiya
    @sanninjiraiya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With the ammo shortages, this is a really welcome topic.

  • @hazelatino626
    @hazelatino626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm sure they are not created equal but about to watch from the master.

  • @FirstLast-uz6eq
    @FirstLast-uz6eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The last time I was this early, Istanbul was still Constantinople.

  • @mattpeacock5208
    @mattpeacock5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Please keep the data collection in! It makes everything honest!

    • @depqua7905
      @depqua7905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can read the crono in the video?

    • @mattpeacock5208
      @mattpeacock5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@depqua7905 I guess he could be lying about that, but I doubt it.

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke ปีที่แล้ว

      @@depqua7905 That's a good idea. I mean to keep things honest, he could have two cameras and the one with chrono could be on a split screen format, but then that gets complicated and then we'd have to have Paul showing us opening the boxes, showing us the headstamp, loading the magazine and then shooting it all in one take to eliminate any conceivable subterfuge. Some people might demand that in our low trust, low honesty world we're living in; the Empire of Lies...

  • @jackofmanytrades4396
    @jackofmanytrades4396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I used to buy GECO 9mm ammunition back in the '90s, and it was adequate, reliable plinking ammo for a reasonable price.
    Hard to go wrong with S&B or CCI though.

  • @Gizmomaster
    @Gizmomaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    If you find the chronograph section tedious you can most certainly skip through it. But all of us will judge you as not being a “true” Paulite(Praise be to the bottomless pockets).
    In all seriousness this is a great Presentation Paul! Comparison presentations are incredibly useful as they give me a good idea of what a type of ammunition will actually do beyond the marketing hype.

    • @ManetInAEternum
      @ManetInAEternum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All praise the poooockeeeets..... Aaaaaaaameeeen

  • @turdmuffins88
    @turdmuffins88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My 2.5 year-old daughter is loving this video. Paul's metronomic pace makes it easy for her to count-down each shot.

    • @warblerblue
      @warblerblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sesame street eat your heart out. Your daughter will be memorizing ballistic charts like they were multiplication tables.

  • @StoonRay1
    @StoonRay1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its always a good day for us when Paul shoots guns and decides to share what he has learned. Thanks Paul!!

  • @toddk1377
    @toddk1377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes, a new Paul Harrel video. Supposed to be sleeping, but oh well, I'll take an extra energy drink at work!

  • @adamwestlund4750
    @adamwestlund4750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this combination of painstaking detail and succinct delivery!

  • @gw5436
    @gw5436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great to see Paul is shooting from a rest, to make the comparison (in his Sig at least) mean something accuracy-wise.
    remember though, that anyone doing a lot of shooting with different handguns using the same ammo, what's great (or bad) in one, can mean something totally different in another. Summary, means nothing unless you do it in your own firearm.

  • @jazeenharal6013
    @jazeenharal6013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Paul, I'm so glad I found your channel.
    36 and (relatively) new to firearms.
    I love your content and I appreciate the vein of "Don't get too full of yourself" that runs through your videos.

  • @danrunner84
    @danrunner84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE the chronograph section. Those that don’t should bugger off.

  • @glennycarroll
    @glennycarroll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I echo the comments in favor the "tedious" parts. It allows me to experience the sensation of firing myself. And I enjoy the scenery while you are doing it. Glad to see the firing from a rest to reduce the human element in the testing.

  • @0117ization
    @0117ization 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this channel. No nonsense just the facts with as seen demonstrations This channel is also done in a professional manner and is very informative . Thanks

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke ปีที่แล้ว

      OH, Paul does "nonsense" on the Halloween and Christmas specials and others, but we can tell it's going to be nonsense by the video title but I get what you mean

  • @asmodeus20
    @asmodeus20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God, back in the sane, comfortable part of yt

  • @jonbock4853
    @jonbock4853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always assumed, based on zero data, that lawman, fiocchi, and s/b were much better than BB and WWB. Thanks Paul for this very informative presentation. And thanks to whoever sent all this ammo!! What a gift of such a precious resource.

    • @PetuniaIii-pd1ww
      @PetuniaIii-pd1ww 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the Fiocchi and S&B also...a lot of folks for whatever reason think foreign manufactured ammo isn't any good, which is just plain crazy...foreign ammo has killed millions of foreigners over the years, and too many Americans...our experience is it goes bang reliably...

  • @TheSwoopDog
    @TheSwoopDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an Italian, thank you also for properly pronouncing the hard C in Fiocchi.

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canadians are terrible at the hard C from the "cch" in Italian. I remember BCers saying "Mar-zot-chee" for Marzocchi back in the 90s/00s. They butcher "pasta" as well. Nice folks, clean cities, but terrible at foreign words. 😂

    • @TheSwoopDog
      @TheSwoopDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanoneil277 I still love them Canadians! Hard not to!

  • @AshGreen359
    @AshGreen359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm told S&B have harder primers
    Speer lawman ammo is supposed to perform exactly the same way ballistically as Speer Gold Dot.
    So people can practice with the FMJ and save money using less JHP

  • @jk5658
    @jk5658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Came home earlier today after picking up my birthday present, wife sent me to Scottsdale, AZ with an address of a business plaza. Arrived at the Plaza opened my birthday card. Expecting a set of racing wheels for one of my bicycles, card directed me to a firearms store to pick up a Sig Sauer M17.

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Accuracy and dependability are everything. All the rounds are reasonably powerful. I think some manufactures try to cater to the subsonic folks and keep their velocities right below the magical 1100 fps. Side note: Carbines will typically shoot about 200 fps faster than pistol, so most 115 grain stuff will not be subsonic out of carbines. Except Wolf steel case stuff...my Wolf 45 auto ammo chronographed at 700 fps.. out of a carbine..

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lots of intentionally subsonic ammo is loaded to 950 or even less fps. It keeps the projectile out of the transonic range and makes sure if you have a gun with a tight chamber or longer barrel or any other variables that can bump the velocity the tiniest bit you still don't get the sonic crack. If you had subsonic ammo that was rated for 1075 fps there is enough variability of the atmosphere to get supersonic rounds at high elevation and even leaving the gun chambered with a hot barrel might be enough to kick it over.
      You get funny things that can happen to accuracy with transonic rounds. You'll see most subsonic special purpose firearms shoot way below even 1000fps even if the cartridge is capable. The 9x39 is an example of this. They shoot under 950fps with the military issue ammo. It keeps it quiet and accurate.

    • @farklestaxbaum4945
      @farklestaxbaum4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah none of these manufacturers are catering to "subsonic folks"

  • @ludecom-cz1wz
    @ludecom-cz1wz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wet dogs, a cup of coffee and a new Paul video. A good start to the day.

  • @joshshepherd5660
    @joshshepherd5660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ah yes...I see you are in the smoke as well! The valley is fairing...somewhat better...for now. Thanks for your time!

    • @davidw835
      @davidw835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We just drove from Idaho to New Mexico and had it there entire way…

    • @Tadicuslegion78
      @Tadicuslegion78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Friday morning this wall of brown rolled into the Salt Lake Valley and made the place reek

    • @avshockey6633
      @avshockey6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tadicuslegion78 It has been smoky as hell in Colorado too. It's so thick that it's hard to even see the mountains from the Denver metro area.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in Texas and we can see the haze.

    • @guaporeturns9472
      @guaporeturns9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@avshockey6633 sure it’s not the Denver smog as well? I just read Denver had the worst air quality in the country. Either way we haven’t got the smoke yet here in the Colombia river gorge but if the winds shift a bit I’m sure we will again

  • @cw4karlschulte661
    @cw4karlschulte661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now i am in a West FL no shooting outdoors place. Left 16 acres of hill and valley field and forest all my own. Shooting to my hearts content. Here only $$$ indoors place, outside is maybe 80 to 90 miles away. Am 60% disabled Army retired, can't drive far. So, like fans of Paul in cities and say, England, I can enjoy shooting vicariously, in addition to his wisdom. Have been capt of #3 pistol team in US NG, so was asked to help teach ccw class here, and his talks make great extra background. He is a great resource and super great guy. Kudo's to you Paul! CW4 Karl

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Takeaway one--I was at my county range yesterday and it was hazy--and you seem to have that haze as well. California wildfires again!
    Takeaway two--"not all 9x19mm NATO FMJ ammo is equal" but performance was close enough--at least in the hands of a proficient "professional"--that having any of those eight loads would be preferable to having no ammo until my ammo source comes through with more.
    I was restricted to ball ammunition because of military regulations and corporation rules "for official use" over a period of 35 years. I used better ammunition when I could. The difference in performance between FMJ and JHP is smaller than the difference in performance between FMJ and no bullets.
    Thanks for this educational demonstration. That was a lot of ammunition during this period of no ammo on retail shelves.

  • @mfallen4277
    @mfallen4277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Eh, I wouldn't scoff at someone for mispronouncing Sellier & Bellot, especially for saying it using anglicized pronunciation, as we aren't a francophone country. Kind of like the country "Niger" and the way it is pronounced. When I was a kid I was taught to pronounce it "nigh-jer" and that was the way every news anchor pronounced it up until about 5 years ago. All of a sudden it was pronounced "knee-jaire" (I don't know how to spell phonetically, but I assume the point is being made) and people looked at you like a fool for using the anglicized pronunciation. Well, we're an English-speaking country, why should we be faulted for pronouncing things in the way our language traditionally taught us? Not like non-English speakers don't butcher English pronunciation of words just as often.

    • @zerpblerd5966
      @zerpblerd5966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Denis Leary does a whole spiel on this in his No Cure for Cancer standup
      "croissant"

  • @bertg.6056
    @bertg.6056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Excellent presentation, as always Paul. It's obvious why I've been buying Blazer Brass just about forever. It's a great product !

    • @9mmpeter255
      @9mmpeter255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your mom is a great product

    • @bertg.6056
      @bertg.6056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@9mmpeter255 Actually Aaron, if you think about it we both are the products of our mothers.

  • @stephenj6203
    @stephenj6203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like these tests. Thank you for putting the effort into them.

  • @briandriver301
    @briandriver301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was very informative, especially in the current ammunition situation where, you can only get whatever is available which leads to several different brands in ones “stash”.

    • @PetuniaIii-pd1ww
      @PetuniaIii-pd1ww 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't lose sleep over all the different brands in our stash...as we shoot we try to shoot the stuff we don't like 1st to get rid of it, but it is going to take a while...i know the missus shot a dozen .38's today, all she said is she used the box on top (we keep our ready for range ammo out from our stash), and 50 .380 also got blown up...I've been encouraging her to go shoot whenever she wants to, but the heat has been harsh lately...she just texted that she was able to field strip the bersa, which is hard for her for whatever reason...she cleans guns with a religious fervor that would shame a lot of guys, yup, she's a keeper...😁

  • @PassportBrosBusinessClass
    @PassportBrosBusinessClass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank You for another great ammo comparison Mr. Harrell.

  • @marcuschauvin7039
    @marcuschauvin7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You just made my night at work ten fold better! I LOVE tedious chronograph testing!

  • @ILeftRules
    @ILeftRules 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great presentation Paul. And thank you for the time and effort you put into making these for us.

  • @markc7551
    @markc7551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information and presentation as usual. Thanks Paul and crew!

  • @BTVDeusVult
    @BTVDeusVult 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SOLID review! Extremely thorough and fascinating results - did not expect some of the findings, especially regarding Fiocchi.
    It would be great to turn this into a series comparing other popular 9x19 FMJ’s. Thanks for taking the time! 🇺🇸

  • @TheKentuckyPatriot
    @TheKentuckyPatriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So glad to see this pop up in my notifications!!

  • @scschicksr
    @scschicksr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, I love your videos. You do a very good job of presenting the material, and always bring up info I haven't heard elsewhere. Superb.
    Keep up the great work, and thank you for all the effort you put into your material.

  • @Kaiserland111
    @Kaiserland111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic data Paul! Thank you for taking the time and energy to present your findings to us.

  • @mikewerden4056
    @mikewerden4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic demonstration. Just wish I would have sent some Federal American Eagle to see how that stacked up.

    • @biggunshandguns3687
      @biggunshandguns3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Id be interest in the American Eagle ammo ad well. I don't buy ammo often but every time I use it the group's are terrible. I've used it in 45 acp and 10mm only so not a huge variance in calibers

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Paul and team. I appreciate the nearly comprehensive test, and realize that there are shortages going on, but such a test would have put things in perspective better had you been able to grab two different NATO 9mm FMJ examples (NATO packaging, etc.) to compare against what we are being sold. Edit: I do love the re-shoots to get better data on flyers.

  • @BryanNogues
    @BryanNogues 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for putting all this information together. I appreciate your willingness and technique of sharing your experience.

  • @terryschiller2625
    @terryschiller2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Paul and your group for all your hard work and time. The transparency in all your videos is very much appreciated Sir.

  • @fortawesome1974
    @fortawesome1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good to see you used a rest this time to try and take you out of the equation. I know why you don't normally but I still think this is the best way to test accuracy.

  • @EXO9X8
    @EXO9X8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DWM and The Hague convention created 9mm Luger, but Paul Harrell proved them unequal.

  • @toobalicious
    @toobalicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, Paul. Another very pertinent and useful (to me) video that really answers a lot of questions I had about various 9mm ammo.

  • @dragonrider385
    @dragonrider385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Paul. I have also found different ammo shoots different. And also have found that sometimes it will differ box to box. Thank you for the video.

  • @dabush6380
    @dabush6380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That smoke in the back ground is so bad I cant see the mountains where I live in Albuquerque NM! As always excellent work on the video.

    • @warblerblue
      @warblerblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It just cleared up today here in the 4 corners. Was just as bad as what you see there in ABQ.

  • @bruceholinight7978
    @bruceholinight7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can hear the low report of that Geco , sounds like a reduced hand load !

  • @9mil1313
    @9mil1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How detailed you get during your explanations, unreal... Fantastic!!!

  • @BryceAWD
    @BryceAWD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great presentation. Thanks Paul and crew.

  • @XYz-zj5zd
    @XYz-zj5zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for testing S&B, here in Europe it's popular and available. Would be great to see how S&B 9x19 JHP performs in the meet target:) In the ranges I go it is forbidden to shoot things that are not poppers or paper target

    • @bobloblaw204
      @bobloblaw204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a range where I go to and It has lots of old stoves and refrigerators. So much fun to shoot. Stay safe brother. (canada)

    • @XYz-zj5zd
      @XYz-zj5zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobloblaw204 Thx, you too!

  • @johonfritz
    @johonfritz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, this makes up for a bad day.

  • @liquidblake
    @liquidblake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:15 he is standing by the chart

  • @castortroy5736
    @castortroy5736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always Paul, great video,presentation and scientific data. I truly get excited when you post something that I need to know but haven't tested.

  • @doubleutubefan5
    @doubleutubefan5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    S&B Is the ammo I specifically seek out. I love that stuff. Well at least my gun does. I thank Larry Vickers for introducing me to that brand

  • @stimproid
    @stimproid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMG Paul is the greatest youtuber ever!!!! Like seriously so good!!!!!
    People often call me a round noser....I don't know why and I have no idea what that means.

    • @StringerNews1
      @StringerNews1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Based on your post, I don't think the word is "round". 😆 j/k

    • @stimproid
      @stimproid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StringerNews1 😉

  • @seanoneil277
    @seanoneil277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top shelf presentation & info as always. Thank you Paul!

  • @stevepoe9079
    @stevepoe9079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Paul, thanks for another interesting and informative presentation

  • @ecliptix1
    @ecliptix1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:13 the part where he's standing next to the chart with the numbers on it

  • @keithmcconnell3165
    @keithmcconnell3165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for quality content. It’s been a little hard to find lately. There’s yourself, marksman TV and a couple others that are consistent but that’s about it these days

    • @aksalaman4689
      @aksalaman4689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I enjoy USOG and Gunblue 490 also.

    • @WImob420
      @WImob420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gun sam revolver afficanadio is good.

    • @willwilliam217
      @willwilliam217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God family and guns, honest outlaw, the firearm guy and beretta9mmusa have some very good videos also.

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aksalaman4689 Gunblue 490 is a fine gentleman with a great teaching style, backed up by years of experience. He & Paul Harrell are the 2 best channels on firearms, IMHO.

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willwilliam217 GF&G is a honeypot made by subversives. Their "God" is not what you probably assume or think.

  • @jamesmanning8795
    @jamesmanning8795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The back ground in the beginning of the video is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for the video!

  • @ReubenOaks84
    @ReubenOaks84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly enjoy all your videos and the information you share with us Mr. Harrell. God bless you and what's left of our Country

  • @StringerNews1
    @StringerNews1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how Paul says "Lawman"! I bought a couple of boxes of Speer Lawman recently, when the options were few. I just firgure that it was intended to be practice ammo for departments that issued Gold Dot LE. I don't know if there's any difference between LE and regular Gold Dots, but I like the 50 round box. When I refill my mags after shooting at the range, one 50 round box does the job better than two or three smaller ones.

  • @LaPistolerie
    @LaPistolerie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:05 : I'm like wait, no Remington Green & White box 9x19 115 grain full metal jacket round nose?!
    1:10 : Nevermind.

  • @kramerbaretta6383
    @kramerbaretta6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I usually catch these as soon as they're put up, but was busy last night. Worked out to my benefit that I had some good material to watch while drinking my morning coffee.

  • @tombaxter2879
    @tombaxter2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video, Paul. I love your thoroughness.