i got into guns in 2020. Started to use Blazer Brass 115 from Academy and it was a smart move. Went to winchester and got a smoke cloud from all 200 rounds i got, never went back to them. Today its Blazer Brass and Monarch from Academy, all 100% fire rate.
Thanx for the info man!!!! I shoot Blazer a lot.I usually grab that,and catch it on sale often.I was curious about the Magtech.That one is on sale now,and was curious if it was any good?I was going to pick some up maybe.
Just remember certain ammos can and will shoot different in different guns or setups. I just wanted to show how each one felt to me with these 2 guns…but each ammo kinda shot the same way in both guns. I use blazer more than anything and Magtech 2nd
I like the blazer brass ammo I've used thousands of rounds of it over the past 10 years and I've never had a misfire or failure to eject. My second go to practice ammo is Winchester red and white box I've been using it longer than the blazer with very good results.
Very good video, those Fiocchi suppose to emulate your defensive carry ammo so it make sense they kick harder. I would like to know know if you noticed a significant difference in cleanness/dirtiness between each ammo.
I recently got one... it's really nice with a great trigger! I also have a G3c and I really like that too... the trigger is very different, it's the wall late but I'm use to it.
I'm use to Super Val reloads, Blazer Brass and Fiocchi which I really like. Never ran Magtech but researching it now! Taurus G3c and just got the GX4 Carry toro... both run great!
@@J2OLyfts Speer gold dots match to lawman rounds which are ~30 cents a round. Federal hst matches to their purple syntech rounds. I think those are around ~40 cents. Barnes 115 grain tac tx is similar to blazer as a training analogue. Blazers are often less than 30 cents a round
For precision shooting, Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) range ammunition is suboptimal. According to recent information from CCI, their FMJ rounds are not advised for use within 10 yards. While these rounds maintain reasonable accuracy within the 10-20 yard range, they fail to meet the stringent accuracy standards expected by marksmen. Specifically, CCI Blazer, Independence, and Speer FMJ ammunition, whether sold in boxes or in bulk, exhibit copper jacket splitting after traversing the pistol rifling. This degradation results in a significant loss of accuracy from 3 inches to several feet off the point of aim beyond 20 yards.
I’d like to see you shoot the ammo at different targets not just the same one for the same ammo. You might be shooting the upper left and lower left targets more accurately 🤷♂️ Just the way the mind works sometimes.
I can tell you this much. I just put two boxes of Academy Sports Monarch ammunition through my Hellcat today since it was super cheap and affordable, and while I did not get a single Jam, that crap couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. That's the first cheap FMJ ammo I ever put through my Hellcat that had such wild inconsistencies that even from 45 ft away I was getting weird drops of sometimes a couple feet and I promise it was not me. I have had great luck with magtech, PMC bronze, American Eagle, Blazer, and even Winchester white box. But I think I'm staying away from all Steelcase ammo from now on. I'd rather spend a few extra dollars just to be sure I'm getting relatively consistent ammunition
Yeah a lot of people say the ammo doesn’t make a difference but it does! And yeah I stay away from steel ammo since my local range doesn’t let you shoot with it
@@PhatTactical I've heard some people say the same thing but they just haven't gotten ahold of the right ammo, or wrong ammo if you will LOL. I mean just seeing unburnt powder spray out of the barrel tells a lot. I would imagine if I didn't have a Hellcat or some other renowned reliable handgun, this Monarch stuff would have given me trouble cycling properly.
You ALWAYS HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, even when racking the gun. Exactly NOT how it should be. You lower the gun after each shot - NO FOLLOW THROUGH. You relax your grip after each shot, then tighten it again. Obviously not a certified instructor.
You seem like a good guy, so this comment isn’t about you. I’m 63 years old, I’ve been shooting since I was ten… when I want to see accuracy and exact performance, it’s bench rest, or a bag rest, or it’s truly a waste of time. Takes “you” and your shooting skills out of the equation as much as possible. Peace brother, keep it up, I NEVER stop learning. The “experts” usually need a more open mind! Thanks for putting up with my typical “old guy” bit… now “get off my lawn!” Jk. God bless you my brother!
@@drewpritchett4213lol I agree about the bench rest or bag. My take on it, is I’m showing the accuracy in a less controlled manner with me, a newish shooter. Saying hey,. How will this particular gun shoot with just me behind the trigger and you could easily say hey if he’s shooting this good or bad, I think I the viewer can do better myself OR from a bench. Make sense?
I did not see “wider” spread with fiocchi. It’s snappier because fiocchi usually have slightly higher velocity, which means more gun powered being loaded into a cartridge. Everybody loves plus p ammo with even more gunpowder per cartridge. I also do not understand obsession about “tighter groups”? You should count points where bull’s eye counts as 10. If you miss the bull’s eye by 2-3 inches, no matter how tight your groups are, you still miss. Yes, your misses are very consistent. At the longer ranges 2 inches above or below will translate into 4,8,16 inches above and below, depending on the distance.
I like Hornady although I believe they are considered self defense rounds, instead of target/practice rounds I always liked how the nickel plate casing looks😅
Blazers recoil feels comparable to barnes 115 grain. Ballistics seems to be similar as well. May give magtech a try to see how it matches but that seems to be splitting hairs at that point. I pick barnes for the low recoil and how comparable it is to the cheapest range ammo in feel.
Fiocchi runs great for me and I really like it but I swear there's smoke in the air when I fire it. Virtually zero with Super Val reloads and Blazer Brass.
Fee-Oak-E = Fiocchi Some of the best range ammunition made, but I run 124 grain primarily in all of my range firearms of 9mm. Blazer is decent but dirty in comparison. Ammo, inc is garbage and has lots of FTF problems.
Thanks for checking it out, hopefully it was helpful! I do notice ammo runs different thru different models and barrels…so sometimes it’s best to test in your own pistol.
I agree with ProspectingMonkey. Your evaluations were accurate and detailed. I also will be returning to your videos. One suggestion; Learn to pronounce the name of whatever you are evaluating. Your constant sarcastic mispronunciation and comments each time you mentioned Fiocchi only served to demean your otherwise very good video. Hopefully, you accept this as it is meant to be, Constructive rather than demeaning.
I purposely mispronounced it more for comedic relief but it was based on that I wasn’t sure how to really pronounce it. I just exaggerated it a bit more. I appreciate you checking out the video and the feedback!
This video gave me anxiety. The finger resting on the trigger most of the time even while racking it. If I see that at the range I would ask you not to do that again, if you kept doing I would have left the range. You are going to hurt or possibly kill somebody.
@@lozada1971 I have zero pressure on the trigger. Like I know it’s hard to tell from the video but trust me, there was no pressure or much contact. BUT since then, I’ve learned to just keep my finger out at all times , especially since I started shooting competitions after this.
Bad review, you should shoot each brand ammo from each gun, I know that’s more rounds, but every gun has a temper to a particular brand of ammo, saying that one brand is more accurate than the other when you didn’t shoot that same ammo from every firearm is a dud review.
i got into guns in 2020. Started to use Blazer Brass 115 from Academy and it was a smart move. Went to winchester and got a smoke cloud from all 200 rounds i got, never went back to them.
Today its Blazer Brass and Monarch from Academy, all 100% fire rate.
2nd video I watched of yours I like your comprehensive reviews. You have a new sub!
Thanks for the SUB! I really appreciate it! Glad I’m providing some helpful input vs just another idiot on the Tube lol
Thanx for the info man!!!! I shoot Blazer a lot.I usually grab that,and catch it on sale often.I was curious about the Magtech.That one is on sale now,and was curious if it was any good?I was going to pick some up maybe.
Just remember certain ammos can and will shoot different in different guns or setups. I just wanted to show how each one felt to me with these 2 guns…but each ammo kinda shot the same way in both guns. I use blazer more than anything and Magtech 2nd
I like the blazer brass ammo I've used thousands of rounds of it over the past 10 years and I've never had a misfire or failure to eject. My second go to practice ammo is Winchester red and white box I've been using it longer than the blazer with very good results.
Blazer seems to be my favorite so far. I’ve heard bad things about Winchester white box
Very good video, those Fiocchi suppose to emulate your defensive carry ammo so it make sense they kick harder. I would like to know know if you noticed a significant difference in cleanness/dirtiness between each ammo.
I may have to do a short video on that ..how many rounds do you think per company to see if it gets dirty..
@@PhatTactical Good question, but I think after 100 rounds you should be able to see how much dirt is building up
Also how you like that Taurus GX4 Carry?I was wondering how that gun was.It seems pretty nice!!!!
I recently got one... it's really nice with a great trigger!
I also have a G3c and I really like that too... the trigger is very different, it's the wall late but I'm use to it.
I'm use to Super Val reloads, Blazer Brass and Fiocchi which I really like. Never ran Magtech but researching it now!
Taurus G3c and just got the GX4 Carry toro... both run great!
Match your Cary ammo to the practice ammo
Makes sense on paper but would be EXTREMELY expensive to do that with defense rounds, unless you’re switching to carry FMJ’s
@@J2OLyfts 👈 Rich Folks Ain't Trippin On $40 Boxes Of Ammo... Wish I Was Rich 😅😅😅
me too! plus Carry ammo or home defense for me is HP and my local indoor range doesnt allow it there
@@J2OLyfts
Speer gold dots match to lawman rounds which are ~30 cents a round.
Federal hst matches to their purple syntech rounds. I think those are around ~40 cents.
Barnes 115 grain tac tx is similar to blazer as a training analogue. Blazers are often less than 30 cents a round
For precision shooting, Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) range ammunition is suboptimal. According to recent information from CCI, their FMJ rounds are not advised for use within 10 yards. While these rounds maintain reasonable accuracy within the 10-20 yard range, they fail to meet the stringent accuracy standards expected by marksmen. Specifically, CCI Blazer, Independence, and Speer FMJ ammunition, whether sold in boxes or in bulk, exhibit copper jacket splitting after traversing the pistol rifling. This degradation results in a significant loss of accuracy from 3 inches to several feet off the point of aim beyond 20 yards.
Which cal.? Fiocchi 9mm FMJ is good to 60 yards which is the limit of my old eyes. Blazer 45ACP is better because I run 1911 better.
I’d like to see you shoot the ammo at different targets not just the same one for the same ammo. You might be shooting the upper left and lower left targets more accurately 🤷♂️
Just the way the mind works sometimes.
That’s actually a good point..I do shoot lower targets a little more off I’ve noticed..the felt recoil of course is the same
@@PhatTactical yeah I always shoot the upper targets better lol
Was the video taken at the red diamond?
Is that a range ? This was my local range in spring, Tx. Spring Guns and Ammo
@ yes it looked identical to one up In Ohio I go to
I can tell you this much. I just put two boxes of Academy Sports Monarch ammunition through my Hellcat today since it was super cheap and affordable, and while I did not get a single Jam, that crap couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. That's the first cheap FMJ ammo I ever put through my Hellcat that had such wild inconsistencies that even from 45 ft away I was getting weird drops of sometimes a couple feet and I promise it was not me.
I have had great luck with magtech, PMC bronze, American Eagle, Blazer, and even Winchester white box. But I think I'm staying away from all Steelcase ammo from now on. I'd rather spend a few extra dollars just to be sure I'm getting relatively consistent ammunition
Yeah a lot of people say the ammo doesn’t make a difference but it does! And yeah I stay away from steel ammo since my local range doesn’t let you shoot with it
@@PhatTactical I've heard some people say the same thing but they just haven't gotten ahold of the right ammo, or wrong ammo if you will LOL. I mean just seeing unburnt powder spray out of the barrel tells a lot. I would imagine if I didn't have a Hellcat or some other renowned reliable handgun, this Monarch stuff would have given me trouble cycling properly.
Ammo is one of the most important pieces, might be the most important
I believe the ammo name is pronounced Fee-Oh-Key. Nice video
I had to learn lol for the life of me I didn’t know how it was pronounced
No worries!@@PhatTactical
i shoulda scrolled a little farther, i said the same exact thing. nice to know i was correct.
You ALWAYS HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, even when racking the gun. Exactly NOT how it should be. You lower the gun after each shot - NO FOLLOW THROUGH. You relax your grip after each shot, then tighten it again. Obviously not a certified instructor.
You are correct, I’m not an instructor! Lol
You seem like a good guy, so this comment isn’t about you. I’m 63 years old, I’ve been shooting since I was ten… when I want to see accuracy and exact performance, it’s bench rest, or a bag rest, or it’s truly a waste of time. Takes “you” and your shooting skills out of the equation as much as possible. Peace brother, keep it up, I NEVER stop learning. The “experts” usually need a more open mind! Thanks for putting up with my typical “old guy” bit… now “get off my lawn!” Jk. God bless you my brother!
@@drewpritchett4213lol I agree about the bench rest or bag. My take on it, is I’m showing the accuracy in a less controlled manner with me, a newish shooter. Saying hey,. How will this particular gun shoot with just me behind the trigger and you could easily say hey if he’s shooting this good or bad, I think I the viewer can do better myself OR from a bench. Make sense?
I did not see “wider” spread with fiocchi. It’s snappier because fiocchi usually have slightly higher velocity, which means more gun powered being loaded into a cartridge. Everybody loves plus p ammo with even more gunpowder per cartridge. I also do not understand obsession about “tighter groups”? You should count points where bull’s eye counts as 10. If you miss the bull’s eye by 2-3 inches, no matter how tight your groups are, you still miss. Yes, your misses are very consistent. At the longer ranges 2 inches above or below will translate into 4,8,16 inches above and below, depending on the distance.
I like Hornady although I believe they are considered self defense rounds, instead of target/practice rounds
I always liked how the nickel plate casing looks😅
Blazers recoil feels comparable to barnes 115 grain. Ballistics seems to be similar as well. May give magtech a try to see how it matches but that seems to be splitting hairs at that point.
I pick barnes for the low recoil and how comparable it is to the cheapest range ammo in feel.
yeah no point there really.
For the price I like the blazer too but it seems dirtier than the others. Whereas Fiocchi seems the cleanest.
I might have to do a new video on that. I clean mine pretty regularly so I didn’t think about it
Fiocchi runs great for me and I really like it but I swear there's smoke in the air when I fire it. Virtually zero with Super Val reloads and Blazer Brass.
Fee-Oak-E = Fiocchi
Some of the best range ammunition made, but I run 124 grain primarily in all of my range firearms of 9mm. Blazer is decent but dirty in comparison. Ammo, inc is garbage and has lots of FTF problems.
So the groupings of the rounds have nothing to do with the ammo and everything to do with you.
It has to do with both in my opinion. Same shooter…same tactics…different rounds respond differently. Same rounds in the same guns…
Yes i just bought for the 9mm there are some good reviews and not so good hopefully ill have no issues... By the way excellent video !!
Thanks for checking it out, hopefully it was helpful! I do notice ammo runs different thru different models and barrels…so sometimes it’s best to test in your own pistol.
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Why does your P365X hand grip NOT look like mine at all ??
i have the XMAcro comp...which is yours?
Mine is the regular X i guess
Good video new sub
Thanks for checking out the video and the sub!
I think Fiocchi is pronounced fee-o-kee.
Good, Thx
Fee-O-kee
lol got it!
@@PhatTactical I actually just ordered 5 cases of Fee-O-Kee 9mm today. Gotta' beat the $$ increase coming after the 1st of the year.
@@michaelkindy3850yeah I’ve been buying about 100-150 rounds per check last couple months lol
Nice
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You need to keep that barrow down range when loading my guy
I agree with ProspectingMonkey. Your evaluations were accurate and detailed. I also will be returning to your videos. One suggestion; Learn to pronounce the name of whatever you are evaluating. Your constant sarcastic mispronunciation and comments each time you mentioned Fiocchi only served to demean your otherwise very good video. Hopefully, you accept this as it is meant to be, Constructive rather than demeaning.
I purposely mispronounced it more for comedic relief but it was based on that I wasn’t sure how to really pronounce it. I just exaggerated it a bit more. I appreciate you checking out the video and the feedback!
Fee-o-key
The commenter above posted Fee-O-Kee...is it kee or key? When I say it, it sounds the same.
The brand is pronounced “Fee-Oh-Key”
I’ve been told lol I swear I didn’t know what the hell it was
It's pronounced Fa-Coochie
i've heard it pronounced "fee-oh-key," but i'm not 100 on that being how it's pronounced.
This video gave me anxiety. The finger resting on the trigger most of the time even while racking it. If I see that at the range I would ask you not to do that again, if you kept doing I would have left the range. You are going to hurt or possibly kill somebody.
@@lozada1971 I have zero pressure on the trigger. Like I know it’s hard to tell from the video but trust me, there was no pressure or much contact. BUT since then, I’ve learned to just keep my finger out at all times , especially since I started shooting competitions after this.
I say blazer
FIOCCHI = “Feeohkee”
Not “Fuji”….
Its pronounced fee-oo-key.
Nice video.
Fee oh chi is how it is pronounced
it's pronounced fee o kee
Bad review, you should shoot each brand ammo from each gun, I know that’s more rounds, but every gun has a temper to a particular brand of ammo, saying that one brand is more accurate than the other when you didn’t shoot that same ammo from every firearm is a dud review.
Um..I did lol I shot all 4 with the GX4 carry and then again all 4 with the macro .. watch the whole video??
He did... were your eyes open???
@@hmdwnlol I was like I know that’s what I did!
@@PhatTactical@texasproud975 his attention deficit disorder (a d d) probably kicked in at the wrong time while watching your review 😅
@@TrucksXGuns65lol made me rewatch it to make sure
Fiocci=FEE-O-CHEE