The type C port on the C80 can be used to do network live streaming over WiFi or Ethernet, you can use a Type C to Rj45 adapter for Ethernet the one I used that worked for the c70 was a belkin type C to Rj45 but they also have approved models for WiFi networking as well. It’s pretty cool once you set it up there’s a whole web based menu to control camera functions from an iPad or PC
This changes my plans considerably. There's no reason for me to buy the C300 Mark III now. Just this morning the C70 went down in price by a thousand bucks. The C400 will be in stores November 1st and the C80 will be available November 4th. I guess I can survive until then. The R5C also went down a bit. So, when C400 & C80 Master Class??
@@Crimsonengine Awesome! I can't wait! But the camera itself won't be available for a few weeks, that part is the toughest. At least this gives me a little more time to see if I can save for the C400. I just hope the C80 beats the C70. Even the R5C has better image than the C70!
I played with some footage sample I could find of the C80 and color graded them. The camera produce really good footage with easy color grading workflow.
They missed out on putting a record button on the handle. The multishoe is kind of useless for most people unless they made a good canon mic or audio adapter
@@FilmFlablol the Canon R3. 6k60p raw 12 bit, full frame stacked sensor, dual AF, Cf express, Ibis etc. That c,80 with no 6k slow mo is just lazy stuff from canon.
As a C70 shooter it looks very nice and a good price point - I still don't understand the lack of optional EVF for either the C70 or C80 - clearly these cameras a geared for run-and-gun and doc shoots and I personally find it impossible to use my C70 flip out display in bright sun. No ability to critically focus, compose or even read settings.
@@Crimsonengine I'd say quite a few. People who shoot commercials, action sports, music videos. Plenty of productions where slow mo/speed ramping is critical and can benefit from the higher resolution and 12 bit.
@CringePanda probably the Full Frame 6K. I was tempted by the 6K pro for the buil in ND filters, and briefly interested in the Pyxis, but for the price it seems like the full frame 6K is the best image out there for the money. I've no interest in filming at 6K though, way too big file sizes!
@Crimsonengine I've been using the BMPCC OG for a couple of years and no issues...other than the measly 5 minutes each battery lasts! It's so hard to see past Blackmagic when they're half the price of everything else pretty much, and as good as if not better an image.
RF glass is excellent. Great camera. I'm happy with my C70 for now. It's given me a lot of bang for the buck and I've used a ton of footage shot on scout days in the final commercials.
Not a c70 owner but asking anyone C70 owner if they would upgrade to the c80? Asking as am currently in a position to purchase the c70 but would it be worth to just get the c80? All video I seen comparing the 2 I genuinely cannot see the difference other than DOF which am not fussed on!
Ffs Canon… just give me that full frame DGO sensor already!!! But thanks to Canon to fix the base plate, the SDI, the better screen and brighter.. and they did give us full frame.
@@camronsmithcharles13 the c70/80 can both make great videos in the areas you want you just have to know the cameras limitations. No camera is perfect.
I wish that usbc slot worked for external HDs. That would be killer. Never had an SD fail yet but the fear is real. Got a C400 coming. Now I'm wondering to I cancel and get 2 C80's and dump 2 C70's? That would be smart but I dunno. That C400 is what I've been dreaming of.
If only it had faster cards and a loupe option like the Sony FS7 did, then it would be documentary shooter dream camera. SD cards really aren't reliable though and break often. I would not trust using them in the jungle for four months like I did using Son'y XQD cards. This camera really needs a loupe or eye piece option for brighter sunny locations or they should include a LCD flip open shade...
It should. It's supported on SDI on other Canon C-series cameras. But there's also a RAW HDMI option for the C80, which will allow for 6k60 RAW. The limitation with only 6k30 RAW in camera is the speed of the media.
@@camcamwatt The question will Canon bring out DGO sensors in a C70 variant with upgraded tech or will they save DGO for the C500 upgrade? they do have a sensor patent for a fullframe 20stop dr sensor
@@memcrew1 The RED KX is $1500 more expensive and is a Super 35 camera with no internal NDs, bad autofocus, bad lowlight and overpriced proprietary accessories that are necessary for the camera to function normally including their insanely overpriced monitor because the onboard screen is unusable. The C80 is full frame, with internal NDs, much better lowlight, superior autofocus etc. Even 7K is too much for the Komodo X. People just wanted to own a RED camera so they pretended like it wasn't overpriced tech. It's game over for RED once Sony releases their new cameras and the new Canon cameras become available as well Blackmagic etc.
Really? That’s strange. Doing commercial work I’ve never had a client that even knew the difference from one camera to the next. Although, you need matte boxes and other accessories so it looks “professional” and high end in some cases. I don’t even buy cameras anymore as renting based on a on their budget and project needs makes more sense. Unless you’re just renting yourself out as a cameraman I suppose. For a “set” as you put it, I would discuss the project with the DP and decide on the camera and lenses, and not say “what camera do we own?”
@@jchase8223 the C400 is way more future proof, it just makes more sense for a professional to use and own. there are so much more to a camera than the sensor. when we talk about economics and just how to operate it, it becomes very apparent that the C400 simply is the better choice. When you have a client that spend big money on the production, they want to know that you use proper gear for proper gigs.
Much too expensive, picture looks OK and the casing is similar to a BlackMagic 6k. Better to go for the Sony fx3 or BlackMagic for a few thousand euros less.
It’s so obvious that these videos are rigged and paid for. Nothing against you because I’ve watched you for years, but are you really excited for the C80?. It’s a camera of catching up with the already existing market which will be bypassed again. The mere fact that the camera doesn’t do 60 frames at 6K is a joke. The SD card selection is a joke and it’s a purposeful cripple ! big deal full frame. That’s what you’re excited for? The C4 hundred should’ve been built even better so the C80 could’ve shined a little more. It’s like apple and the iPhone the iPhone 20 is already done. They will just wait to release it. My assumption is that SONY has been quiet for a while and they’re going to do something that makes everybody regret buying canon and I’m not even a SONY owner. I want so much to believe in the future of canon and I’m not going to buy a camera at all until I see what Nikon and red do, which in my prediction will dominate all. I admit Canon colors are beautiful but now that Nikon has acquired red. Those two technologies are going to be sick. Just wait for it. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m right but canon is not getting my money right now
(yawn) …the ultimate doc camera has been here for years: Sony FX6 (or even the FX3) This is Canons latecomer to the party. I ditched Canon after years of using them on Netflix, HBO and other streamers. Bad color science, worse ergonomics and heavy. Jumped to Sony 2 years ago. Never looked back. This is too little too late. Also, you should state the obvious: no one making docs - features or otherwise - needs 6K or Raw. Ask an editor or DIT how they feel about it. Lastly, anyone who needs more than two native ISO’s on a camera (I came of age using one) should not be shooting.
The absolutes are adorable. However, speak for yourself. For theatrical, 6k is much appreciated for reasons that should be obvious, and, as for editors, every feature show I know - theatrical docs or broadcast that I’ve been attached to - cuts in proxies, so origination is irrelevant re show build. Even spots, if not insane turnaround, are mostly in proxies. If you’re delivering to Netflix, you’re aware that raw and log files are expected on original shows, appreciated on a negative pickups.
The type C port on the C80 can be used to do network live streaming over WiFi or Ethernet, you can use a Type C to Rj45 adapter for Ethernet the one I used that worked for the c70 was a belkin type C to Rj45 but they also have approved models for WiFi networking as well. It’s pretty cool once you set it up there’s a whole web based menu to control camera functions from an iPad or PC
Would be really interesting to know the external recording options. Like with a Ninja V+ with the SDI adapter.
Great overview and feedback on the new EOS C80!
Thanks!
Can you add a grip extender and control zoom, rec/roll. one shot focus etc.
Interesting! I wonder if you can monitor each audio track individually with maybe a solo option
Does the C80 support external monitor touch screen control? That'd be very attractive.
It's unclear. It would be awesome to use an ipad mini. I'll post when i find out.
Can you add a grip extender and control zoom, rec/roll. one shot focus etc.
Man, 90% of the video is you head! I believe footages from the camera illustrate the camera better than your head, no matter how handsome it is 😂
Nice video man, thanks for sharing ! Think now is the time to pick up a C70 !
This changes my plans considerably. There's no reason for me to buy the C300 Mark III now. Just this morning the C70 went down in price by a thousand bucks. The C400 will be in stores November 1st and the C80 will be available November 4th. I guess I can survive until then. The R5C also went down a bit. So, when C400 & C80 Master Class??
I’m literally filming it today :)
@@Crimsonengine Awesome! I can't wait! But the camera itself won't be available for a few weeks, that part is the toughest. At least this gives me a little more time to see if I can save for the C400. I just hope the C80 beats the C70. Even the R5C has better image than the C70!
@@CringePanda, I on the other hand thinks the image on the C70 looks better than the R5C. C70 looks more filmic while the R5C looks more digital.
Huh ? nah .. the C400 is shipping in less than 2 weeks !!
@EmeraldAudiovisual really? Adorama says available Nov 1st! I hope you are right!! I've never been so excited for a camera in all my life
Thanks for the video. looking for footage to show the low-light upgrade you mentioned. Cheers.
do you mind sharing what you are using to film this video?
Does it have a S35 option...? 🤔
I played with some footage sample I could find of the C80 and color graded them. The camera produce really good footage with easy color grading workflow.
They missed out on putting a record button on the handle. The multishoe is kind of useless for most people unless they made a good canon mic or audio adapter
What if they made a viewfinder?
@@disco4178 i don't think it can transfer enough data for video.
You can't use the power zoom lenses?!
Very cool camera but no cfexpresscard and no slomo in 6k is bad. C400 is the better buy in the long run.
That 6k raw file is ginormous plus the oversimplified 4k raw looks hardly any different
@@FilmFlablol the Canon R3. 6k60p raw 12 bit, full frame stacked sensor, dual AF, Cf express, Ibis etc. That c,80 with no 6k slow mo is just lazy stuff from canon.
Not really. C80 is easier to run and gun on gimbal.
@@shem44 i dont see it. Both are roughly the same size.
@@andersistbesser with fx6 top handle the weight distribution is vastly different
lovely stuff Rubidium - what lens where you using on the test footage? Lovely!
Thanks! 24mm sumire
What are your thoughts on the C400 vs a KomodoX
Wasn't thinking about buying this camera. Didn't even know it was coming out.
i want both the c80 and the c400 so badly! i currently shoot with a c70, i'd gladly sell it to put down on the c400
also what are you shooting these talking head videos with cuz it looks CLEAN!
As a C70 shooter it looks very nice and a good price point - I still don't understand the lack of optional EVF for either the C70 or C80 - clearly these cameras a geared for run-and-gun and doc shoots and I personally find it impossible to use my C70 flip out display in bright sun. No ability to critically focus, compose or even read settings.
I saw on B&H video that it can also do RAW ST albeit in s35 4k mode but LT only in 6k full frame mode.
I'm genuinely curious who wants to shoot 6k raw slomo.
@@Crimsonengine I'd say quite a few. People who shoot commercials, action sports, music videos. Plenty of productions where slow mo/speed ramping is critical and can benefit from the higher resolution and 12 bit.
Looks a great option for indie filmmaking. Unfortunately the price of the Canon means I'll go for the full frame Blackmagic for half the price!
Or a Lumix s5iix
Which one, exactly?
Ah Blackmagic. 50% of the time it works every time 😅
@CringePanda probably the Full Frame 6K. I was tempted by the 6K pro for the buil in ND filters, and briefly interested in the Pyxis, but for the price it seems like the full frame 6K is the best image out there for the money. I've no interest in filming at 6K though, way too big file sizes!
@Crimsonengine I've been using the BMPCC OG for a couple of years and no issues...other than the measly 5 minutes each battery lasts! It's so hard to see past Blackmagic when they're half the price of everything else pretty much, and as good as if not better an image.
RF glass is excellent. Great camera. I'm happy with my C70 for now. It's given me a lot of bang for the buck and I've used a ton of footage shot on scout days in the final commercials.
What was that warping at 2:17?
Warp stabilization
@@frankluo230 wild
Okay, now I am thinking about buying the camera. Do you think my C70 Shape cage will fit the C80?
I haven't tried. I think it's a little taller
@@Crimsonengine That's fine. Whoever buys my C70 will get a little extra.
Not a c70 owner but asking anyone C70 owner if they would upgrade to the c80?
Asking as am currently in a position to purchase the c70 but would it be worth to just get the c80?
All video I seen comparing the 2 I genuinely cannot see the difference other than DOF which am not fussed on!
I would definitely get the C80 knowing the improvements and upgrades from the c70
Red had to drop the price of the Komodo X knowing this was coming out.
C400
Hiii are you going to make a master class for the C80 ??
Yes! working on it as we speak.
Ffs Canon… just give me that full frame DGO sensor already!!!
But thanks to Canon to fix the base plate, the SDI, the better screen and brighter.. and they did give us full frame.
Can I actually connect an external SD hard drive?
I don't think so, not as a storage device.
Do you think the c80 will be great for music videos?
Yes unless you need to pan really fast or film cars which sometimes is not the best on rolling shutter cameras.
@@colinthomas2525 so the c80 can’t do that ? I’m debating to buy the c70 or c80, I wanna make short films, commercials, music videos, art , dance
@@camronsmithcharles13 the c70/80 can both make great videos in the areas you want you just have to know the cameras limitations. No camera is perfect.
I wish that usbc slot worked for external HDs. That would be killer. Never had an SD fail yet but the fear is real. Got a C400 coming. Now I'm wondering to I cancel and get 2 C80's and dump 2 C70's? That would be smart but I dunno. That C400 is what I've been dreaming of.
Cool Video! Which Lens is on the C80?
Sumire 25mm I think!
@@Crimsonengine Thank you!
I just don’t feel like I seen any footage that is better than the c70. The c70 just has an organic look to it if that makes sense.
Agreed.
c70 got more dynamic as well. the DGO Sensor in c70 is better.
Canon killing it atm.
Wish they made this with a smaller sensor. A lot of nice vintage S16 fast zoom lenses that are great for documentary shots.
you can shoot with a cropped sensor
@@Crimsonengine yes a cropped Canon body would be great. It would be half the size. =)
If only it had faster cards and a loupe option like the Sony FS7 did, then it would be documentary shooter dream camera. SD cards really aren't reliable though and break often. I would not trust using them in the jungle for four months like I did using Son'y XQD cards. This camera really needs a loupe or eye piece option for brighter sunny locations or they should include a LCD flip open shade...
Will the sdi support ProRes raw?
It should. It's supported on SDI on other Canon C-series cameras. But there's also a RAW HDMI option for the C80, which will allow for 6k60 RAW. The limitation with only 6k30 RAW in camera is the speed of the media.
Yes, from what i know.
and the footage??
C80 is the upgrade from the C70, C400 is the upgrade from the C300. The C500 upgrade is next
You need a grip truck to operate the c500 as it is.
No, its completely different cameras
Not sure the c400 is an upgrade from the mk3 it’s a different camera in many ways
C300 mkiii is better then C400 in many ways IMHO - DGO sensor is insane. Stacks up next to Arri very well
@@camcamwatt The question will Canon bring out DGO sensors in a C70 variant with upgraded tech or will they save DGO for the C500 upgrade? they do have a sensor patent for a fullframe 20stop dr sensor
Shame about the RF mount. Just not enough lenses for it
Why? RF is the future! built in IS
Urrrggghhh, I can feel my bank balance taking a hit...
This is the next gen c100 and c300. Same cameras but less production features and a lower price on the smaller one.
No EVF tho. Sucks for handheld.
@@BenEricson a lot of people shot with the new cinema cameras perfectly fine without an evf handheld. I only used EVF when I am more stationary.
How could you possibly justify buying the RED KX with the C80 existing? It would almost entirely be a brand-based decision.
Whats the difference?
There’s only two reasons really, Komodo X has a global shutter which is better for sports and auto filming and the raw files from red.
@@memcrew1 The RED KX is $1500 more expensive and is a Super 35 camera with no internal NDs, bad autofocus, bad lowlight and overpriced proprietary accessories that are necessary for the camera to function normally including their insanely overpriced monitor because the onboard screen is unusable. The C80 is full frame, with internal NDs, much better lowlight, superior autofocus etc. Even 7K is too much for the Komodo X. People just wanted to own a RED camera so they pretended like it wasn't overpriced tech. It's game over for RED once Sony releases their new cameras and the new Canon cameras become available as well Blackmagic etc.
speed of the sd cards is the justification for not having 60 fps in fullframe and asking 5500$.
No, I was 100% more audio
Yep, first one was from the silent era :)
Lack of raw slow mo and no power zoom options is sort of a deal breaker. I’ll wait for next model or buy RED
Just spend a bit more and buy c400. It can do everything you mentioned
No client I work with would accept the C80 on a set, they would send me home. If you want to go pro go with C400.
Really? That’s strange. Doing commercial work I’ve never had a client that even knew the difference from one camera to the next. Although, you need matte boxes and other accessories so it looks “professional” and high end in some cases. I don’t even buy cameras anymore as renting based on a on their budget and project needs makes more sense. Unless you’re just renting yourself out as a cameraman I suppose. For a “set” as you put it, I would discuss the project with the DP and decide on the camera and lenses, and not say “what camera do we own?”
@@jchase8223 the C400 is way more future proof, it just makes more sense for a professional to use and own. there are so much more to a camera than the sensor. when we talk about economics and just how to operate it, it becomes very apparent that the C400 simply is the better choice. When you have a client that spend big money on the production, they want to know that you use proper gear for proper gigs.
Much too expensive, picture looks OK and the casing is similar to a BlackMagic 6k. Better to go for the Sony fx3 or BlackMagic for a few thousand euros less.
It’s so obvious that these videos are rigged and paid for. Nothing against you because I’ve watched you for years, but are you really excited for the C80?. It’s a camera of catching up with the already existing market which will be bypassed again. The mere fact that the camera doesn’t do 60 frames at 6K is a joke. The SD card selection is a joke and it’s a purposeful cripple ! big deal full frame. That’s what you’re excited for? The C4 hundred should’ve been built even better so the C80 could’ve shined a little more. It’s like apple and the iPhone the iPhone 20 is already done. They will just wait to release it. My assumption is that SONY has been quiet for a while and they’re going to do something that makes everybody regret buying canon and I’m not even a SONY owner. I want so much to believe in the future of canon and I’m not going to buy a camera at all until I see what Nikon and red do, which in my prediction will dominate all. I admit Canon colors are beautiful but now that Nikon has acquired red. Those two technologies are going to be sick. Just wait for it. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m right but canon is not getting my money right now
(yawn) …the ultimate doc camera has been here for years: Sony FX6 (or even the FX3) This is Canons latecomer to the party. I ditched Canon after years of using them on Netflix, HBO and other streamers. Bad color science, worse ergonomics and heavy. Jumped to Sony 2 years ago. Never looked back. This is too little too late. Also, you should state the obvious: no one making docs - features or otherwise - needs 6K or Raw. Ask an editor or DIT how they feel about it. Lastly, anyone who needs more than two native ISO’s on a camera (I came of age using one) should not be shooting.
Bruh, who hurt you? 😂
Damn, I was taking you seriously for a bit there. Woof! Glad I stopped doing that.
What?
You sound Hella arrogant and your needs are not the same for everyone else 🤡 talking like a true clown
The absolutes are adorable. However, speak for yourself. For theatrical, 6k is much appreciated for reasons that should be obvious, and, as for editors, every feature show I know - theatrical docs or broadcast that I’ve been attached to - cuts in proxies, so origination is irrelevant re show build. Even spots, if not insane turnaround, are mostly in proxies. If you’re delivering to Netflix, you’re aware that raw and log files are expected on original shows, appreciated on a negative pickups.