Why I Love Logan's Run 1976 - Movie Review with Spoilers
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One of the things that gets overlooked in this film, is that Box isn’t capturing random people in his icy Lair. Those are the runners trying to escape to Sanctuary. It gives the film a very dark underbelly to realize there is no Sanctuary. There’s just a frozen food locker, run by an insane robot.
@Nexus-1068 He was a vestigial machine carrying on his design function. At one time he was part of the food processing system for the city. Just like all the old fish farms they walk through before getting on the elevator to go up to where Box worked, he was no longer used. Apparently these food processing facilities and systems were no longer used for food production, but no one turned BOX off. So when food stopped coming and "the runners" started showing up, Box processed them.
One of my favorite sci-fi films.
This was one of the first DVDs that I bought when DVDs became a thing.
My favourite sci fi film. Loved it since I was a kid
This was a wonderful review for this wonderful movie. You described it perfectly. The music from Jerry Goldsmith is amazing and my fav scene is when Logan and Jessica see the Lincoln Memorial and he says that must be the look of being old. Remember they have never seen an old face.
Damn, how did I miss this two weeks ago? One of my fave 70s sci-fi romps, and a childhood crush ;) My living room today is an effort to re-create 70s era "futurist" decor.
"Logan's Run" was the post-Golden Age of SciFi which was from 1950-1968. This Silver Age of SciFi was from 1969-1977 ending with Star Wars. Logan was the better of the usual lackluster of 1970's SciFi. It had a good moral tale without tiresome preachy subtext. Michael York, a Shakespeare-veteran actor, was a vital choice for this part.
I was named after this movie. My dad saw it in 76 and liked the name. Three years later when I came along I got stuck with it. LOL
So cool! It's a great name.😊
Same thing with me. I was born in 76 and my parents had saw jeremiah johnson and named me after him
You did a fantastic review on Logans Run ,l love too a very intelligent film ,l love 1970s science fiction movies. Michael York and Jenny A did a great performances .beautiful photograph and Jerry's Goldswith ground breaking score , Richard Jordan was very impressed with his performance. Many years l saw the waterfall at Fort Worth location they used . Great science fiction movie of the 70s .l would love to see a remade on Netflix or prime .That would be so cool . ❤
It's a excellent 70's sci-fi movie. 😀👍
They got good actors for this: York did good work as relatable action heroes during this period; Ustinov was a legend; Richard Jordan was an excellent and versatile actor; and Jenny Agguiter is a fine actress who has had a long and varied career.
I remember watching this movie when I was in the first grade, I was home sick for a week with Scarlet Fever: it was airing on some daytime tv network, you know, for mothers who stayed at home... or dad's, I guess. I watched it every chance I got. I think it actually came on more than once during that week, too. I remember having a huge crush on Agutter for the next decade. It was awesome to see her beautiful face in Captain America, Winter Soldier...
Do you remember the TOS episode called "A Taste of Armageddon?" Kirk and Spock beam down to a planet in perpetual warfare. The war itself is simulated on a computer. However, the casualties are real! The computer selects who goes into the incinerator after each simulated battle. Logan's Run, Soylent Green, Star Trek...why was euthanasia such a reoccurring theme at that time?
I know yes interesting, maybe the Vietnam War and the issue over overpopulation had some influence.
@@RaikenXion I may have found the source of this particular theme in the 60s and 70s. An American ethologist named John B. Calhoun conducted an overcrowding study on rats between 1958 to 1962, and a similar study on mice from 1968 to 1972. He created "rat utopias" in enclosed spaces, providing unlimited access to food and water. However, the over population manifested in negative behavior Calhoun termed "behavioral sink." It became an animal model for societal collapse as a result of overcrowding. i.e. Soylent Green.
@@UglyAmerican0374 Interesting, yes thats another classic Soylent Green.
So fun to hear your praises of this movie. I keep struggling for words to describe the impression it made on me as a teenager when I first saw it. It always inspires the designer in me.
I was mostly impressed with the mysterious aura of the cybernetic civilization and the sensual interior design.
The calm coldness of the speaking computer seemed to convey a sense of being nurtured by a powerful, abundant mother figure that had a mysterious, perhaps forgotten origin which ironically felt so wrong.
Regarding the interior design, there is always something about mirrors and incandescent (analog) and neon light sculptures that exude a vibrant life of dynamic, sensual color. Modern led's don't seem to have that changing, multi-faceted character.
Also gripping was the electronic soundtrack; I am amazed at what an eerie and dazzling job Jerry Goldsmith did with the synthesizer compositions (also analog), not to mention the Ravel-like orchestral pieces.
Logan's Run is one of my favorite movies, and I liken it to a futuristic Adam & Eve story.
I will definitely check out your other reviews.
Futuristic Adam and Eve! Well said.😊
I love the well structured and detailed review. I watched the movie quite a while ago and really liked it because of the characters, their personalities made a lot of sense.
Love this movie as a kid and still do. Timeless classic sci- fi flick. Thanks for all the trivia.
Hi RNG! La Reina Creole sent me! 😁 Great breakdown on a great film. And props for your take on the character of Francis - I don't think I've ever heard anyone express it that way....One thing, though: A lot of people miss what is probably the mot important character development part in this, and that is the fact that all of the characters in the movie are children, in an emotional sense, not unlike the Eloi from George Pal's _The Time Machine._ The emotional development of everyone in the City has been stunted deliberately, because they can do almost anything they want, with basically no consequences, as long as they abide by some limited - but ironclad and inviolable - rules...That's why movie-Jessica and movie-Logan so readily attach to each other, because this is likely the first serious emotional attachment either has ever had, because s*x does not equal deep connection.....That, and hiring A-class actors goes a long way to making up for occasionally wooden writing....You definitely got a sub from me!
La Reina sent you? Sweet! Thank you! I am so glad you like my reviews! Your insight about Logan and Jessica's sudden relationship is brilliant! Their lack of emotional development is important to the characters and how they respond to their world. I love it.😀
Cool flick. I never knew it was that long! I think its paced very well and never felt it was drawn out. Great review on a classic! 👍👍
I remember at the beginning of the film Logan was looking into a room with two just-born babies looking like a proud father. I always thought that was cute like he has a soft spot for children or something.
One of the babies was his son. Francis said to Logan that "he's not yours anymore", meaning that children are not raised by their parents. Everyone pretty much belongs to the government structure and is indoctrinated into their system (including the concept of Carousel and being "renewed").
I saw this at the local drive-in when i was about 8. Haven't watched it again, but the story, visuals and characters are vivid in memory. Not a fun movie for a kid but it was engrossing and impactful. I'm sad to hear that Jenny found her costume embarrassing ... I thought she seemed very comfortable in her performance and she was absolutely stunning.
Yes, you bring up a good point about Jenny. She was such a great actress, you'd never know. Thanks for sharing your memory of seeing this at a drive-in. So cool!😀
I remeber seeing this when i was 10. it had a profound impact on me, not for the buck rogers sets but for the story. we dont make great future stories anymore.
Really enjoyed your style of review. Very detailed and entertaining.
Yes, you're right. Soylent Green stole the Lastday death scene from Logan's Run due to its own story being far too short and needing to be padded out. I read the Logan book after the film came out and remember prefering the book due to the very adult material. The whole pill-popping and uninhibited sex was removed for the film, which again I prefered in the book. I also prefer the book's ending with a more logical Sanctuary being in space and not on earth.
I'm sure I am much older than you. I saw Logan's Run on opening night June 1976.
I still like it. Has a special place in my memory.
This video presentation gives the best analysis of the film I have seen. Logan's Run is still in my top 3 all time favorite films, much smarter than it's reputation.
Most people miss the idea that, until they get outside, Logan is really playing both sides as he gives the signal for the sandman raid on what he misconstrued as likley being sanctuary hideout. Logan is really acting as a self preservationist (gambling that he will get his lifeclock back if he delivers for the dome computetrs. Purists prefer the book but I have always peferred what additions and changes were done with the story choices for the film, especially Peter Ustinov's character. If Logan's Run ever gets a remake, it would work best in the HBO Westworld series format rather than an actual feature film.
Thanks for posting.
Wow! Thank you and thanks for your feedback. I quite agree with your idea for a remake! :)
I Really enjoyed this review RNG! You have a true flair for presenting Classic film!
Funny you referenced 'Soylent Green'! As the 2 have many similarities! Both have a cop with questionable ethics, Both main characters rely on elderly mentors to 'See the Light!'. And most of all (SPOILER ALERT) Both try to pass off using the past generations as food for the current one! 'it's people/proteins from the sea'!!!
Good call!😊
I half way in and I really love your takes on this film. This is one of my favorite books.
This was a wonderful movie. I really appreciate the restrained style of acting. No hystrionics (as I recall). Was the Adam and Eve aspect as fully apparent in the book? Thank you, I really like how you show the depth of Francis' character. That was something I had not appreciated.
Logan's run 2: The Loganing
The story is really great, this movie is very interesting. I like the exterior designs of the city, but the interiors didn't age very well. But i agree with your review almost totally.
Ah, Logan's Run-- I love this movie. I saw it when it was first released, and I've watched it many times since. It may have been the last movie made where the future actually looked futuristic, before Star Wars convinced everybody that the future should look like a factory basement with leaky steam pipes. The cast was great-- Michael York, Jenny Agutter, and Peter Ustinov were wonderful. The story was epic and insightful. The interesting thing is that the message, at least superficially, really went against the grain of the prevailing wisdom of youth-oriented culture, but really sent a message about extremism-- any idea, when turned into a religion, becomes its own evil twin. Structurally, the story was a literal Odyssey, taking Logan and Jessica through all these exciting, dangerous, and interesting locales-- from the shining metropolis to the frozen world of Box to the wilderness to the Old Man in the ruins of DC-- and then finally home again, where they become agents of change. This is truly a classic SF film. Thanks again, RNG, for a great review with lots of background info that I didn't know about (I didn't realize that the book was so different). Keep 'em coming!
Say, RNG, are you able to re-edit the title of this so that it actually mentions Logan's Run? May help. An old college friend of mine was a big fan of the Derek Flint spy spoofs (Our Man Flint, In Like Flint) and Fantastic Voyage (you'll do that one, right?) and their producer, Saul David (1921-1996, not a much more recent Saul David), even enjoying a nice postal correspondence with Mr. David. (Those were the days!) Anyhow, Mr. David loved to complain about his battles making Logan's Run, especially vis-a-vis self-appointed censors -- he wrote a book with all those details in it called "The Industry." (Novelist William F. Nolan did not care for Mr. David.) Side thought: Carousel's audience reaction may also be meant as a comment on the jaded audiences of the "shock rock" of the time, the kind parodied in The Phantom of the Paradise. Ankhs were big around then -- one bad movie, The Love Machine, even featured an ankh as the O in Love. By the way, what's not to love about Richard Jordan? Survived starring in Raise the Titanic, was special guest star on a great 1980s TV show The Equalizer (yes, the basis of the two Denzel Washington movies), and stole the show as the cynical Senator in The Hunt For Red October. And Jenny Agutter -- oh, be still my heart. Now that's technology -- I dial some kind of phone and Jenny Agutter materializes right in front of me, yes! I've always loved this woman, and she even excelled in serious drama in An America Werewolf in London. Peter Ustinov is a ham but he is always an absolutely lovable ham, always a delight to watch -- his little role in this did far more alone for certain poems by T. S. Eliot than an entire recent movie called Cats. A little similar to Ustinov for me is Roscoe Lee Browne, whose always enjoyable voice was lent to the robot Box. (So sad, the ultimate truth about "Sanctuary," what a bummer!) Yet another Jerry Goldsmith project, i had forgotten that -- man, but I love that man's music, so much great work, some of it very unfairly obscure. Interesting about the great William Devane -- I wonder if he was pulled away for Family Plot (okay Hitchcock but not so great) or Marathon Man (a must see classic of paranoia starring Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier, and set in New York City with Hoffman as a Columbia graduate student). It's funny that we don't imagine ideal cities much anymore, perhaps Elysium in the movie of that name, or what little we get to see of Yorktown in Star Trek: Beyond, or George Clooney's childhood memories of the alternate dimension Plus Ultra in Tomorrowland. All right, RNG, very much appreciated, mainly for the memories -- my friend who corresponded with producer Saul David made his own Sandman costume (though he considered himself to be more a Logan kind). Excelsior!
Thank you. I got it fixed. It was a weird glitch due to some technical difficulties on my part.
Marathon Man sounds interesting! I've never seen it. Laurence Olivier did you say? I will save up for that one. Thanks again for yet another wonderful comment for me. I learn something new every time. 😊
@@RetroNerdGirl Yes, Marathon Man, maybe sometime later I will slip you a better idea of it. Lots of great stuff out there!
Is it safe???
Say there, RNG, skulking around the backfiles, so maybe I can talk about Marathon Man at long last. Two movies I find interesting for their sense of New York City are The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (the original!) which is a simply brilliant heist (or attempted heist) movie. Another is Marathon Man, with a young Dustin Hoffman playing a Columbia student whose hobby is running. Yet Marathon Man can also be considered one of another pair, two movies involving Laurence Olivier in "opposite" roles. In The Boys From Brazil, Olivier plays a Nazi hunter on the trail of Gregory Peck as no less than the real life Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele. (I find Olivier's Viennese Jewish accent weird -- but he does get to tell a former Nazi guard "I may leave here emptyhanded -- but you are not going anywhere." Lay down the law, Laurence!) Yet in Marathon Man, Olivier plays a kind of fictionalized Mengele named Christian Szell. I don't always find Marathon Man very logical, but then the same can be said of some Hitchcock classics. A great movie for indulging in paranoia -- as is, in a very different way, The Game starring Michael Douglas. All right, RNG, just thought I would finally take care of this. Looking forward.
I love this story. It's about time we have a new Logan's Run movie
I understand that they are working on a new one already. But of course in this era of wokeness, Logan is going to be a woman. So much for looking forward to seeing a new version of this film. Rather than remaking everything and turning it all upside down, I'd rather they just didn't do a remake at all.
The comic was written by Gerry Conway and drawn by the great George Perez . . . .
31:50. Don't forget 'The Island' in 2006(?) starring Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansen :)
Hats off, to you, Madam, for this upload. It's so refreshing to see a complete review of this movie, let alone any movie, for a change. I think you got a lot 'dead right' and mentioned a few things others missed, like the debt the fashions of the Domed City owed to Ancient Rome. It was my first 'cult' movie that I saw in a cinema on its release and I was immediately captivated and transported. It remains my favorite nightmare scenario dystopia of all time, in spite of the fact that when you consider its parts, it doesn't really make sense, but that's the genius of good film-making. The movie had momentum and upward thrust and just enough early exposition to explain the events and to establish some identification with the characters before they fell into their run, which I thought happened very intrinsically and naturally from their circumstances. I was also entranced by the soundtrack which I found alternately futuristically creepy or movingly symphonic. This movie is a perfect example of the cinema being so much more than the sum of its parts, when it works, at least. And you did mention it but I'll say it again; the success of the drama of the movie was largely due to the emotionally intense performance of Richard Jordan as Francis.
Wonderful technical critique of a movie! Majority of film critics lack the discipline to properly review a film like this. Instead they are ruled by their emotions and basically bellyache that a film wasn't what they wanted it to be and for that reason they give it thumbs down.
Thank you! It was so easy to dive into the film because I absolutely adore it. It's so good!
I wonder if anyone BUT a Sandman realistically could successfully run . . . .
Brilliant review, but one thing: the color-matching of the clothes to the life-clock color of the wearer was flawed because it was obvious that it did not necessarily match the ages of the people wearing them, so it was confusing to the viewer to have this contradiction.
Yes, it was not matched to the age of the actors, but the age of their characters in the film. At that time, really young professional actors were not easy to find. 😊
I love the "felt more organic" comment. Priceless. I laughed all day long.
Peter Ustinov, Whoo Hoo! Yeah!
I saw Star Wars when it came out in theaters when I was a kid and blown by it. I saw Logan’s Run a few years after and many years and of the two Logan’s Run had much better acting then Star Wars outside from Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing. The only thing about Logan’s Run they never explain who makes the clothes for these people, who cooks for them no currency or anything other then the sandman and the cleaners. Other than that it’s a very well made film by Michael Anderson. If there was a remake or a tv series they should get Michael York as the old man. Enjoy your TH-cam videos
...and the New You guy (who tries to kill Logan) and his receptionist.
In the book, it's explained that the people on "Red" do have jobs and work. Of course, one character complains about having to work three days a week. But there isn't much discussion in either about salaries or how "the system" works.
I'm your new buddy. also a fan of this movie--on my perpetual replay list.
Great one RNG!
Thank you!😊
Logan’s Run is my all-time favourite sci-fi motion picture and the green mini dresses are the sexiest outfits ever!
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Yes!!!
5 days later: I think the authors didn't argue too much over the age-limit being 30 because, in the 70s, Astrology was a more widely accepted "science." The age of 30 is one that bears a lot of weight in Astrology, AND historically. Remember the old maxim, "Respect your elders?" Well, that saying has it roots the importance of living to 30 especially in the old days because people didn't generally live much longer than that. So people who grew to be old people were pointed to as the model: "Live like this old one, and you are more likely to have a long life." (Whether the elder deserved this accolade or not is up for much debate.)
One of my altime favorites for sure!!!
Excellent review! I named my oldest son after this movie ✌️❤️
That's so cool! :)
I got the impression being a Sandman was hereditary . . . .
Jessica may accept Logan as a runner SINCE he IS a Sandman . . . .
Jenny Agitter was cute and quite sexy in those outfits even in tatters at the end of the movie. She played the nurse in American Werewolf In London.
My question is why did Logan and Jessica (and no one else, not even the "old Man" played by an Englishman) have British accents? It took place in the USA (probably in VA or MD).
Great question! :)
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🤖 I love 💓this film also !!! "Logan's Run", is the first movie 2 have a REAL 🤖 HOLOGRAM - in the actual film. The whole cast was perfect,...& Micheal York Was great, & he just came from the success of 1973 & 1974's "The three ,...and the Four Musketeers " !!! And OK, I had a lambroghini on my wall & yes right next to Farrah 👀 Fossit's famous poster.I believe that even today , her poster is still the most EVER SOLD POSTER, of any female🙋♀️ celebrity. Her poster sold over 9 million units. 😎😎
As a man its Jenny Agutter all the way.
Quite right age 21 would have been a ludicrous age limit. That is traditionally when adult life begin's.
I think I’d like to check out the comic book series. I didn’t know that existed, thanks for the info!
Hope you enjoy it!😊
Yeh this was a cool movie i always liked Peter Ustinov's role he kinda stole the movie toward the end. You gotta do a Soylent Green review one day.
The City Of Lost Children is one of the best movies iv'e ever seen. I think you would like it.
Thank you for the suggestion! 😀
in my top 5,,,,thank you.... would still love to see a riffing of this,,, Zardoz riffed by Riftraxx was beyond fun
I wonder if the people who worked on this feel overshadowed by Star Wars?
This movie could do with a remake. Although I think it’s still great fun to watch some of the effects and costumes have aged quite badly. Younger audiences might be a bit put off, especially by the robot 😂
I agree!
Brilliant review
Thank you!
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Awesome! It's one of my favorites and it's definitely on my list.
Add me to the list of people that never made the connection between clothing color and the age bracket. Never went click for me. :)
I first saw Logan’s Run only two months ago. And while it did have its issues, I enjoyed the movie for what it was. I have to mention that the story was kinda similar to The Matrix, because we have mankind living in cities cut off from the real world, & run by computers who direct all of their aspects of life. Also, Francis was very similar to Cypher in terms of rejecting the truth in favor of how they live out their lives. One thing I would like to see is an anime prequel that shows the events leading up to the movie Logan’s Run.
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Thank you! 😊
great job, great movie
Jenny Agutter ❤️
LOL 😄 "The city was a group of incredibly designed miniatures. Do they look real? ...NO"
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Yeah. I was amused, though, when they showed up as "Ork" in the TV Show "Mork and Mindy"
Jennie will always be beautiful
At least Logan’s Run gone of with a bang after almost eight years starting with both 2001:The Space Odyssey and Planet of the Apes in 1968 to this film ending the golden age of sci fi movies prior to Star Wars which I saw in my local movie theater when it came out. If Logan’s Run gotten the tv treatment like HBO did to Westworld how about Michael York this time play the old man. Enjoy your TH-cam videos
So if Francis did succeeded in killing Logan and her does he go back to the dome how would get a rewarded? A month or two extra on his life?
I think he would have destroyed the machine like Logan did. Just a theory though. :)
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@@RetroNerdGirl Possibly, although because the machine had a "does not compute" error which it would have encountered when either a captive (Logan) or a returning loyal citizen (Francis) has no evidence of the sanctuary.
There were several Star Trek episodes of the era in which Kirk or Spock used logic or evidence to cause a runstream error. The episode most like it involved "Landru" running a more benign totalitarian state, and that computer got caught up in a contradiction and shut down.
Or perhaps something out of 2001 was going on, the computer had been programmed to tell humans that the ankh was the key to "sanctuary," although it might have had classified knowledge that the ankh was the key to the cold storage plant.
Remember HAL 9000's nervous breakdown began when it raised rumors of something dug up on the moon. HAL knew it, the astronauts who were not put into hibernation did not know it. Crash.
Another great reveiw, love this film however i do feel it's a tad dated. Doubt a remake would work, likely get hijacked by other political ideas. Format wise, your idea of a TV show might work better so long as they strictly keep a limited run series. When the crystal starts blinking, time to wrap the show up with some explosions!
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I just know HBO will reboot this.
They could do it in a really clever way like Westworld.
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I loved this film from the first moment I saw it on a massive theater screen as a child in 1976. Unlike other films where the technical elements overshadow everything else, the excellent actors maintain your interest and sympathy throughout the production. I distinctly remember the extended Love Shop sequence, thinking to myself "Is this really a PG movie?" The second half of the film is a little reminiscent of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. It's unfortunate that Star Wars stole much of its thunder, as Lucas obviously borrow some elements when making his epic.
No George did not borrow any of this because he was still trying sell Star Wars .😂
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The dialogue is perfect to introduce younger viewers (teens at least) to good science fiction.
I hope they'll never do a remake of this great classic, most movies for the last 20 years overall have been really ugly experiences visually so I'd rather have this gem remain the only version ever made. 🤖
spoilers? this movie was made in the 70s. LOL
the 70s HAD no sensibility....
Actually That's IMDb RATING: * 6.8/10 It must've gone down within the last 2 Years However I gave it a * 10/10. Oh sure kill the Guy At The Legal U.S.Drinking age, just when Life is getting good. Great Party, Where's the Whiskey? Yeah 30 is a better Age, a nice round Number. Yeah Never trust anyone over the Age of 30 comes from another Classic Film, Planet of The Apes (1968) Starring Chalton Heston, Roddy McDowall, and Kim Hunter as Bright Eyes / Taylor, Dr. Zira, and her husband Dr. Cornelius. Of course with that saying it means that we Shouldn't Trust A*N*T / Arch-Nemesis Trump as he was 30 when Logan's Run came out. Well the Opening Scene is Logan 5 at the Nursery Checking on Logan 6, and so since life ends at 21 or 30 Logan 5 is about 2 or 3 Generations after Logan 3. Logan 3 would be the Grandfather of Logan 5, And Logan, River Phoenix, Jonathan Brandis, Heather O'Rourke, And Judith Barsi to name a few who died before 30, Heather and Judith were still Children, They got a free pass to heaven. In the film The Life Clock is in the Left Hand.
Good review, but you really dropped the ball on the book. It bordered on epoch as it ran all around the Earth and the big twist at the end, tied to the chapter numbers, was just brilliant. Far bigger then the film.
Oh no. I loved the book, that's why I think it needs a series. The sequel books are really good too. I agree with you.😊