I thought exactly the same thing at that point in the video. When the sandmen missed, they were just being cruel. They did it on purpose like a cat playing with a mouse.
In the novel, there was different ammunition for different circumstances. For dispatching "runners", there was the "homer", which was a heat-seeking charge. It didn't tend to miss, so there wouldn't have been much shooting; just "BANG", then the runner dying. Not good for sci-fi action, so they changed the guns. (The guns' charges were an interesting study in the callousness of that society..."Tangler", "Ripper", "Nitro", "Needler", "Vapor", and "Homer"...)
I have always interpreted the early chase scene with the Sandmen and the runner as the Sandmen playing with the runner. They were not missing they were toying. I think you might agree if you watch the scene with that idea.
Great film! I got to meet Farrah when I was 5 in Indian Wells, CA. 1977. She had been playing tennis there and I went up to her and asked if I could give her a hug. She said, "I'll come back after my match." She did and she picked me up and hugged me. Pretty cool!
In the novelization, Box is a human sex offender/serial killer turned into a cyborg as punishment, whose memory wipe doesn't quite change his personality entirely.
1) To this day, I have a total *thing* for Jenny Agutter! When she popped up in the Captain America movie I cheered! 2) I was so-so on the book. The fact that no one raised the kids made it impossible for them to suddenly become all "peace and love" at 14. 3) I will pay for that deleted scene! :)
Quite ingenious on Jerry Goldsmith’s part to have the score shift from a synthesizer laden score to a traditional orchestral based one as the action leaves the Dome city for the natural world outside it.
@@jerrypadilla4384 You’re welcome. I’m very fond of Jerry Goldsmith’s inventiveness and versatility. His score to “Planet of the Apes” is still incredibly fresh and avant-garde even after over a half century.
You didn't see the same movie if you think Sandmen were bad shots...they were playing with their prey... This gave them even more character as it showed their sadistic behavior, that they enjoyed it, before killing them !!!...RUN...RUNNER...!!! From the first encounter, they made a sick game of it! Another great Hero's Journey of a movie
Excellent presentation! I saw this movie in 1976 in the theater during its opening run - with my girlfriend. Just loved it. A fond memory. The deeply saturated colors, the costumes, the flame pistols, and the amazing set pieces and FX - really made an impression on my pre _Star Wars_ brain. Dialog a little creaky here and there - and that is especially true when watching today. I think Box the Robot had the most memorable and quotable line in the whole movie: "Fish, and plankton, sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here - fresh as harvest day!" Sometimes I say this when I'm at the grocery store with my wife - and she asks me what's on the shopping list. I make sure to wave my arm out as though I'm saying "Behold" when I get to the "It's all here / harvest day" part. 🙂
One of my favorite sci-fi movies. I particularly liked the old man character played by Mr. Ustinov. I liked the movie's references to the T. S. Elliot book Old Possum's Book... When my wife and me were dating in early 1980's we frequently lunched at a coffee shop on 44th Street near 6th Ave in NYC. Just down the street from the Algonquin Hotel. Once after lunch, we walked down the street and saw Mr. Ustinov exiting the hotel and tryin' to hail a cab, I asked if he needed help and he said yes. I ran out in the street and stopped a cab, screechin' brake's-n-all. As I open the taxi door for him he shook my hand and said thank you. I met Peter Ustinov!
Thank you for this great video on one of my all time favorite movies. The escapism of this movie and the surreal effect it had on 10 or 11 year old me is hard to describe. It really just overwhelmed my senses and took me out of my drab world into one of color and excitement. I'm not sure any film is capable of that anymore since we all have so many colorful and engaging sensory distractions now. But in that time we still had a lot of long and slow and quiet child hood days and seeing a movie like Logan's Run could stay with you for months!
The main reason I wanted to see Logan's Run was I had a crush on Jenny Agutter ever since I saw her in the 1971 movie Walkabout, it remains one of my favourite SCi-Fi movies. It is, in my opinion, a little dated by today's standards and even in 1976 I found the acting a bit off but there was enough action and Jenny Agutter to keep my attention. Peter Ustinov brought much-needed light relief to the movie through his dialogue and acting, especially when his character recites a shortened version of the poem "The Naming of Cats" by T. S. Eliot.
Loved "Logan's Run". Hollyweird would mess it up if they decided to 'Remake' it. Really enjoy your 'Behind the Scenes' Videos - please keep them coming. If you are looking for ideas, how about "The Wild, Wild, West" Starring Robert Conrad & Ross Martin??? Your Title could be - "Whatever Happened to that Amazing Train?!" I always wanted to see James West teamed-up with the Lone Ranger & Zorro, but that never materialized - TV Executives had NO IMAGINATION back then, lol!!! Stay Motivated.
One of my all-time favorites! Especially compared to what we get now-a-days masquerading as science fiction! I have and will always love this movie! "Last Day. Capricorn 15's. Year of the City....2274. Carousel begins!"
I was a floor covering installer in 1983. The crew I was with spent several months in the Dallas Apparel Mart in the World Trade Center recovering the floors, about 20,000 yards of carpet. That's when I learned about parts of Logan's Run having been filmed there. The Great Hall was really impressive. I say "was" because the Apparel Mart was torn down in 2004(?) to make room for a larger building. The Fort Worth Water Gardens was also mentioned. I've visited it. Still there and still impressive.
I remember seeing this as a kid on a sunday afternoon when they'd just have movies on randomly, it was surprising as it wasn't censored at all and this was the early 1980s.
As a 9 year old...this film blew my mind...saw the film 6 times at my local movie theater...yes... At 9 and 10 yrs old I sometimes had to con my way into buying a ticket to a rated R movie...it was the 70's...what can I say...😁👍😜
I loved the film, being an impressionable teenager back then, and it's definitely a classic in my eyes. Unlike Dan, I quite liked Box, even if it did seem a bit on the flimsy side, probably due to the weirdness of the body shape and head, not to mention the voice. In this respect, the robot just felt 'different', as did the film itself. As for Jenny Agutter, well, what a fine, very attractive actress she was. Michael York was simply perfect for his role, too. This was an ambitious, star-studded film that fully deserves this excellent review, and it certainly brings back some wonderful memories. Thanks a lot, Dan, and greetings from England.
Loved this movie. I remember going to the theater when it was released, saw it half a dozen times. Still love the movie and have my own DVD. All I have to say is Jenny!
The DS Sandman blaster is one of my favorite sci fi pieces. I have made a few for my prop collection. Also Jenny Agutter is Stunning. I love Michael York in this. I love the movie with all it's faults. And PG yes, but they did not have PG-13 back then. But even PG-13 might be stretch. Thanks for another great show.
Jenny Agutter was my young fantasy for a long time. I loved her. When I saw her again in Marvel's Captain America : Winter Soldier I just couldn't believe it. She's still stunning.
Hey, Dan. In regards to the Sandmen being lousy shots..at the beginning when they are chasing the 'Runner' from Carousel, they are intentionally missing, toying with him to get him into the open. Then when they succeed in drawing him out, their shots are right on target. And when Logan and Francis are firing at each other they intentionally miss because they are friends and can't bring themselves to kill each other. [Francis himself makes this statement] So when Logan HAS to kill him to stop him, his shot is dead on. Also when Francis 'terminates' the female fugitive in the cathedral, he is dead on target. And the Marvel comics series adapted the movie in the first six issues, with No#7 starting the adaptation of the 'Logan's World' novel, but the series was cancelled because sci-fi comics just weren't popular at the time. Also Director Michael Anderson has a cameo in the film as the surgeon performing the 'New You' procedure on Logan.
In the mid 80s i had the opportunity to purchase one of the guns. They used calcium carbide and water to make acetylene gas. And a battery heated wire for combustion. I miss the days when movie props could be found at Sci-fi conventions.
@@kevink9938 I'd bought collectables from him before and after that. He wanted $250-300 for it. My limit for the weekend was half that. There were several pieces I had to pass on over the years. Found out over a decade later, my husband worked for him in highschool and college. Small world.
To be honest, the Sandmen were missing their targets on purpose as they had a bit of sadistic fun making the Runners jump about, punctuated by laughter.
There's a lot of truth to that. Lines that would be considered "throwaway" indicate that the sandmen looked at it as a sport rather than a job, and wanted a challenge (to some extent).
15 year old teenager and walked into the theater for viewing and was Blown Away and being 15 the female outfits were wow, thought that outdoor scene was Malibu Creek (Live in SF. Valley) and yes own the DVD.
Jessica (Jenny Agutter) was my first love as a teenager watching this film. Today, at 60, I would still marry her. Farrah was really appealing but, the sex appeal goes to Jenny/Jessica.
I did read somewhere that the death age of 21 was changed to 30 because of the difficulty of getting the right actors to play the parts of such young leads.
The book was so much different the sandmen had a high-tech 6 shot revolver which had a unique specialized round for each chamber - poison gas, explosive, armor piercing, a homing bullet etc. Part of the suspense of the book is you only had one shot with your favorite round so you had to be creative and strategic using the ammo in a fight, and when your on the run.
@@clit_niblr0375 even dredd sounds slight rip off of sandmen it started 10 years after logan novel plus dredd is set in a dome city and the judges are like sandmen in some.ways makes dredd look very cheap 😆😆😆😆
@@clit_niblr0375 or here is a crazy thought dredd is what the city turned into without life clocks? the jidges are sandmen now that could work as a theory or its the other way around the judges evolved and life clocks invented could work either way fiction is like clay
A couple of the things the movie simply couldn't show was the scope of the civilization. When the book has Logan interacting with the kids on Muscle (think Meth mixed with Epinephrine and instant effect steroids) that was in "the dead zone" several hundred miles from tube linked domed cities.
Saw it in the theater. Logans Run was about a year before Star Wars. Had to write a review of it for my high school English class. Still have the comic books!
I do!! For the class, we had to watch a movie every week and do a review. At the end of the term, the teacher had put them into a pee-chee (remember those?) and returned them to us. I put it in a closet and it was still in my Mom's house!
So in 1977, when I was 4, I saw the first release of Star Wars at a drive-in. It was a double feature with Logan's Run as the second showing. And while I would love to say that my mind was blown by Star Wars (this would happen a year later when Star Wars was re-released in 1978 and I watched it in a theater), I'm afraid seeing a nekkid Jenny Agutter was. at that formative moment, much more important than anything else I had experienced in my first 4 years. I carried that memory for 46 years until about 2 weeks ago when I purchased Logan's Run and rewatched. I had good taste, even at 4 years old. 😆😆😆
Big fan of the Logan trilogy of books (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search). I also loved the movie when it came out and now when I re-read the novels it's always Michael York and Jenny Agutter I see in my mind. I'd love to see them do a remake of the movie following the novel more closely, and even then follow it up with Logan's World. The one thing I didn't like about the movie was changing the sandman gun to a simple "blaster" weapon. The six unique charges in the Sandman's revolver was something that made the weapon very versatile and deadly. No missing with a "homer".
Saw it at an outdoor theater that unfortunately, no longer exists. Man I miss the Drive In. This movie was massive fun. Even Box. The scene where they meet Peter Ustinov and his cats.....Classic, and a nice contrast to the movies overall darker theme. One of my favorites. Oh, yeah, the costumes....whew!!!! Oh ****. The Omega Man! The 70's was a great time to be a teenager.
Thank you for another great video. Also, thank you for pointing out the dystopian nature of a lot of sci-fi in the seventies. I remember catching the negativity of many TV shows and movies when I was a kid. I enjoyed the reruns of the original Star Trek, because they were the most positive sci-fi stories at the time.
Another scene cut from the final print was near the beginning of the movie, as Francis pursues and terminates a Runner in Arcade. The crowd applauds as Francis makes the kill, and the camera zooms in to the Runner's lifeclock as it goes black. The scene then dissolves into a closeup of a clear lifeclock as the camera pans back out to show one of the new babies in Nursery.
I was working for a company that made wall art at the time and had a showroom at the Apparel Mart (which is now The World Trade Center in Dallas) and one my pieces appears in the film. I can't remember off the top of my head if it was on the wall in Logan's apartment and can be seen over his shoulder or on the wall in the hallway when he opens the door.
Thanks for the look back. I, too, loved this movie when it came out and have owned it in every format: VHS, DVD, Blu Ray and, if you can believe it, CED (Capacitance Electronic Disk), the format that killed RCA. Still have my SelectaVison player and the damn thing still works. I've kept it because it functions with something actually called a "flux capacitor." I really hope they do not ruin Logan's Run with a remake.
The extra in the ending scene doing the Vulcan salute is one of my best friends. His mother was owner of Wyse Talent Agency in Dallas and got him the part. That scene was filmed at the Forth Worth water gardens.
I'm from the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Our community was always so proud of this film. I kissed my 1st boy and got high at the Fort Worth Water Gardens. 😁
Lifetime Logan's Run fan. The day I finally was going to see the fountain, somebody from Chicago had drown in it. I wanted to stand on the edge and shout: "You can live...LIVE!!!" but my girlfriend wouldn't let me.
I've watched this movie countless times. If you think Jenny Agutter outfit was daring for a PG film, you should see her "suit" in "Walkabout" made in 1971 with a G rating, incredible.
Farrah and I share a great grandmother, so we were second cousins, but I didn't know that when this movie came out. I was 16 and in love with her like all my friends were. Yes, we ALL had the poster! As far as me and my friends were concerned, If you didn't have that poster, there was just something wrong with you. Great times.
I think Jenny Agutter had it written into her contract that she had to get naked in every movie she was in. She also got naked in Equus and Walkabout. I suspect Nastassja Kinski had a similar clause in her contract.
Haha! One of my favorite memories as a child was taking over the family room for about a week to do my own reproduction of the cityscape. It was made with the various construction toys I had growing up, so it was this amalgamation of Legos, Tinker Toys, Lincoln Logs, and Girdlers and Panels sets, dressed up with paper facades that looked like they were from the movie. Speaking of that design aesthetic, I've often wondered if the designer of Denver International Airport wasn't a fan of the movie...
Dan, this was one of my favorite films of a lifetime. You're right about comparison to the original book. In fact, William Nolan was an aging hippy who lived in Van Nuys. It was fun, but also telling, seeing Farah in her tiny roll. But then, using Michael Anderson as the doctor was also rather unique. The gigantic waterfall/setting for returning to the city was actually from a beautiful/modern waterfall in the center of the city of Fort Worth). I had the pleasure of seeing it when visiting a relative. Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. p.s. ya, those outfits were totally cool for this youngster-back in 1976! It's still in my Top 5...along with "Somewhere in Time"...oh, please, don't quote roger ebert...or any of those other weirdos...let them try to make movies. Those miniatures were terrific back then! rl
Slight correction on the pistols the Sandmen carried. The chamber contained calcium carbonate and water, which produced _acetylene_ gas. There was a huge battery in the grip that lit a glow plug in the muzzle that ignited the gas. When I first saw it, I thought it was a very good rotoscope job. But no, It was just this amazing practical effect!
I loved this movie when I was a kid. So much that my son’s name is Logan. I have since bought this movie and Omega Man, Soylent Green, all the Planet of the Apes movies, The Last Man on Earth, WestWorld, 2001 A Space Odyssey, The Black Hole, Testament and The Quiet Earth. You could say some of these movies were flops compared to today’s blockbuster’s with all the CGI, but I enjoyed going to the movies as a kid and these movies made my world more entertaining. Logan’s Run was so good as a young 10 year old you could almost see thru the actresses costumes as they wore these silk fabrics with nothing underneath!
Dan, the idea of dying at 30 in the movie made perfect sense given the counterculture mantra of the '70's to never trust anyone over 30. I thought Logan's Run was great sci-fi and also very much enjoyed the costumes, too. The scenes in the Love Shack are the reason why you bought VCRs that could be paused, advanced frame by frame and run videos in slow-motion. 😍 You mentioned that nowadays we have an app for hooking up with someone for sex like Tinder. The Logan's Run version of Tinder was called the "Circuit" and that's how Logan (Michael York) hooked up with Jessica (Jenny Agutter). From what I understood , Carousel was a ritual that everyone turning 30 had to go through in which they had a chance to have their life clock "renewed" (reset back to zero years elapsed). However, Logan began to question the arrangement when Francis casually asked him, "Why do people run? Why don't they take their chances like everyone else in Carousel?" Logan replied, "Have you ever met anyone who was renewed because I haven't." I also read the book after watching the flick and the big difference with the book is that Sanctuary was a place that actually existed (albeit on another planet) whereas in the film, everyone who tried to make it there got frozen by Box. The scenes with the "Old Man" played by Peter Ustinov was a favorite of mine because I'm a cat lover and the Old Man was taking care of dozens and dozens of abandoned cats running around the Capitol Building. He said that cats have three names: one name that cat owners call them; another name that cats know other cats by, and a third "secret" name that only an individual cat knows what it is.
There's things about Logan's Run I like (particularly the set design) but, like some other people: * I long believed Box was capturing runners to serve as a food source for people in the city (and that the people controlling the city encouraged runners for this reason). Apparently not. * The ending makes no sense at all Jenny Agutter is jaw-droppingly beautiful in this film.
I was ten when this movie came out and living with my cousin Doug that year who was also ten. I remember seeing the movie and we did have that poster of Farrah on the wall.
LOVED this film when I was a kid in the 70's and it aired on regular TV. Younger people today might have a hard time understanding (until they get older), but any older pieve has to be remembered with relative differences to today. It doesn't make any sense to make fun of something from the 1970's down while comparing to 2024 standards. This film had a great feel to it and loads of my favorite elements for sci-fi; finding yourself on the run with somebody sharing attraction, against odds but with strange, dangerous but interestingly beautiful surroundings. The lonely beauty of it.... ahh yes. Oh and damn it Jenny Agutter... why do you have to be SO hot?
About the Sandmen being terrible shots: All the scenes you show are from the chase near the start of the film, where Logan and Francis are playing with the runner. They're missing on purpose because it's like a game to them. They wanted to scare the man, and make him panic. There's one thing I never really understood about Box: He was designed to freeze food that was sent to him, and then when the food stopping coming and the runners started, he froze them. Is he still sending "food" to the city, or has he long since been forgotten, and he just continued to do what he was programmed for, even though it no longer matters?
@@ooneybird27 Yes, but what I meant was... At some point, Box served as an important part of the food supply chain. I presume this was for the city of domes. The food would come in, he'd freeze and presumably process it, then send it to the city. Is he still doing that with the runners? Is he processing them into some form of ready to eat protein and then sending it to the city? Or did the city long ago stop accepting/collecting his shipments, and he's just doing all this for no other reason than that it's all he knows how to do. I'm just wondering if the supply chain is still flowing, with Box doing his part, but now the "food" is human protein instead of plants and animals. Or is he just a crazy robot, alone in a cave, who no longer has a purpose.
If they had released this in 1977, it would had been lost in the mix to the Star Wars movie. They put it out just in time. I liked this movie and I watched the series as a kid as well.
Great review, and I'm so glad this film was rated PG, as I was able to see it in the theater at the ripe old age of 14. Let's say Jenny Agutter became a life long favorite!
Sandmen weren't bad shots like stormtroopers. They were missing intentionally to play with the runner. This movie blew my mind when I was 7. Then Star Wars came, and we all forgot about it. Jessica 6 was the first naked chick I saw in a movie, and it was glorious.
@@SeanCanning-h5w yes, like a cat. I think he watched it, he just judged 1 scene wrong. Who knows? Clicks pay the bills these days. All I know is...there is no sanctuary.
The Sandmen were not "missing", they were toying with terrified Runners. Nothing quite like a near miss to get the ol' heart pumping and urine flowing, eh? RUNNER!!!
So glad you covered Logan's Run that was a great review of one of my favourite movies. While I lived in Fort Worth I had to visit the film locations in DFW and loved that I could walk to the Water Garden from my apartment. I first saw the TV series and cannot wait to see you talk about that too.
Another wonderful Sci-Fi film of the 70s, with excellent acting and story. Although the special effects were somewhat exciting, they weren’t revolutionary, as were Star Wars’ a year later. This film would be unforgettable had it had a team of special effects masters working it. Farrah Fawcett, in her best years while married to Lee Major, was one of the main reasons young people flocked to the cinema to catch this film.
My stepdad was director Michael Anderson. Thanks for the love for his movie Logan’s Run.
Then your step-brother was the guy who played 'Doc', right?
@@patricktilton5377 yes Michael Anderson Jr. Is my stepbrother who played Doc.
That's something!
I wish you could thank him for me - this is one of my favorite movies. ❤️
One of my all time favourites. Superb
As a hormonal teenager I had a difficult time following the story because of the costumes.
So did every teen boy at that time! 😂 Great time to be alive!
@@proto-geek248 yeah, I can see that. That’s a pretty fun observation.
@@grimacres I had the same difficulty a few years prior, age 13, eyes glued to Stella Stevens in “The Poseidon Adventure”.
A lot of Francis' missing seemed to be deliberate as he was playing with the person he was chasing.
I thought exactly the same thing at that point in the video. When the sandmen missed, they were just being cruel. They did it on purpose like a cat playing with a mouse.
Jenny Agutter... man oh man oh man.
And she's been a nun for 13 seasons now.
I never thought that the sandmen were bad shots, I always thought that they aimed to miss to have more fun.
Indeed.
In the novel, there was different ammunition for different circumstances. For dispatching "runners", there was the "homer", which was a heat-seeking charge. It didn't tend to miss, so there wouldn't have been much shooting; just "BANG", then the runner dying. Not good for sci-fi action, so they changed the guns. (The guns' charges were an interesting study in the callousness of that society..."Tangler", "Ripper", "Nitro", "Needler", "Vapor", and "Homer"...)
I have always interpreted the early chase scene with the Sandmen and the runner as the Sandmen playing with the runner. They were not missing they were toying. I think you might agree if you watch the scene with that idea.
Great film! I got to meet Farrah when I was 5 in Indian Wells, CA. 1977. She had been playing tennis there and I went up to her and asked if I could give her a hug. She said, "I'll come back after my match." She did and she picked me up and hugged me. Pretty cool!
Mmmm, sweaty Farrah.
@@CraftAeroPossibly, but I don't remember that being the case.
@@CreativeWarrior- That's ok.
In my "memory" she was. 🤩
@@CraftAeroYour version sounds more fun.
The thought that I came up with to explain the Sandmen's bad aim was that they were playing a sadistic cat and mouse game with the runners.
Jenny Agutter should have gotten an Oscar just for her lack of costume.
In the novelization, Box is a human sex offender/serial killer turned into a cyborg as punishment, whose memory wipe doesn't quite change his personality entirely.
Never knew that! Cool!
That explains a lot.
@@Swindle1984 It wasn’t a “novelization” though-the film was based on a 1967 published original novel.
1) To this day, I have a total *thing* for Jenny Agutter! When she popped up in the Captain America movie I cheered!
2) I was so-so on the book. The fact that no one raised the kids made it impossible for them to suddenly become all "peace and love" at 14.
3) I will pay for that deleted scene! :)
Haha :-) me too. My wife and I are in London quite a bit and I keep trying to locate her. One of these days I'm going to get her :-) cheers, Dan
Her acting performance in LR, as well as, "An American Werewolf in London", was A-1 Top Notch.
Quite ingenious on Jerry Goldsmith’s part to have the score shift from a synthesizer laden score to a traditional orchestral based one as the action leaves the Dome city for the natural world outside it.
@michaelschramm1064 Thank you, for pointing this out. Many people miss this nuance, in the film.
@@jerrypadilla4384 You’re welcome. I’m very fond of Jerry Goldsmith’s inventiveness and versatility. His score to “Planet of the Apes” is still incredibly fresh and avant-garde even after over a half century.
@michaelschramm1064
Funny, I too, am a fan of his works, too.
You didn't see the same movie if you think Sandmen were bad shots...they were playing with their prey...
This gave them even more character as it showed their sadistic behavior, that they enjoyed it, before killing them
!!!...RUN...RUNNER...!!! From the first encounter, they made a sick game of it!
Another great Hero's Journey of a movie
A long time ago, I thought a remake would be cool but not anymore with today's Hollywood and politics. I wouldn't watch a remake. I love Logan's Run.
10:39 - Damn indeed. Jessica was pretty spectacular. She kind of defines that "eyes you can get lost in" thing.
the Sandman were not bad shots, they were sadistically torturing the runner.
Yeah, I was just going for more of a comedic statement on that one.
I always thought the sandmen were toying with the runners when shooting at them, giving them false hope of escape.
that was exactly it
Yup 100%
Jenny Agutter is still a beautiful lady.
You are correct about that!
ABSOLUTELY😍
Don't forget her acting performance, which was superb.
Excellent presentation! I saw this movie in 1976 in the theater during its opening run - with my girlfriend. Just loved it. A fond memory. The deeply saturated colors, the costumes, the flame pistols, and the amazing set pieces and FX - really made an impression on my pre _Star Wars_ brain. Dialog a little creaky here and there - and that is especially true when watching today. I think Box the Robot had the most memorable and quotable line in the whole movie: "Fish, and plankton, sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here - fresh as harvest day!" Sometimes I say this when I'm at the grocery store with my wife - and she asks me what's on the shopping list. I make sure to wave my arm out as though I'm saying "Behold" when I get to the "It's all here / harvest day" part. 🙂
One of my favorite sci-fi movies. I particularly liked the old man character played by Mr. Ustinov. I liked the movie's references to the T. S. Elliot book Old Possum's Book...
When my wife and me were dating in early 1980's we frequently lunched at a coffee shop on 44th Street near 6th Ave in NYC. Just down the street from the Algonquin Hotel. Once after lunch, we walked down the street and saw Mr. Ustinov exiting the hotel and tryin' to hail a cab, I asked if he needed help and he said yes. I ran out in the street and stopped a cab, screechin' brake's-n-all. As I open the taxi door for him he shook my hand and said thank you. I met Peter Ustinov!
Thank you for this great video on one of my all time favorite movies. The escapism of this movie and the surreal effect it had on 10 or 11 year old me is hard to describe. It really just overwhelmed my senses and took me out of my drab world into one of color and excitement. I'm not sure any film is capable of that anymore since we all have so many colorful and engaging sensory distractions now. But in that time we still had a lot of long and slow and quiet child hood days and seeing a movie like Logan's Run could stay with you for months!
The main reason I wanted to see Logan's Run was I had a crush on Jenny Agutter ever since I saw her in the 1971 movie Walkabout, it remains one of my favourite SCi-Fi movies. It is, in my opinion, a little dated by today's standards and even in 1976 I found the acting a bit off but there was enough action and Jenny Agutter to keep my attention. Peter Ustinov brought much-needed light relief to the movie through his dialogue and acting, especially when his character recites a shortened version of the poem "The Naming of Cats" by T. S. Eliot.
Jenny is and still is gorgeous.
Are you serious? I fell in love with her in Walkabout too!
Watch "China 9, Liberty 37." You get to see a LOT of Jenny, ifyaknowwhatimean.
In defense of Francis 7, he was toying with the runner, shooting near him to taunt him. He was missing on purpose.
I was 12 in 76 when saw this and Jenny Agutter was just so gorgeous. Love the film.
Hers were my first movie boobs.
@9.35 They shot to miss on purpose, hunting runners was a game to them. Run Runner, RUN!
Jenny Agutter was the hottest woman alive in 1976
I remember seeing Jenny Agutter in Walkabout when I was in Elementary School. Sure made an impression on me.
Ooh!
No way Lynda Carter easily…..
Jenny Agutter, 'nuff said!
Beat me to it!!!
I had such a crush on Jenny Agutter. Still do.
Loved "Logan's Run". Hollyweird would mess it up if they decided to 'Remake' it. Really enjoy your 'Behind the Scenes' Videos - please keep them coming. If you are looking for ideas, how about "The Wild, Wild, West" Starring Robert Conrad & Ross Martin??? Your Title could be - "Whatever Happened to that Amazing Train?!" I always wanted to see James West teamed-up with the Lone Ranger & Zorro, but that never materialized - TV Executives had NO IMAGINATION back then, lol!!! Stay Motivated.
When I saw this movie for the first time as a young teen (13 or 14) 30 sounded like a pretty long time.
at 54, it seems incredibly young.
Funny how our conception of time changes as we get older, huh? 56 here.
FYI: Lindsay Wagner "Bionic Woman" was going to play Jessica until Jenny Agutter auditioned.
"Fish! And plankton! And sea-greens! And protein from the sea!
...They stopped coming, and the others started...
...It's my job...to FREEZE YOU!"
“OVERWHELMING!! AM I NOT?!!”
@@stephanielaurenbounds4958 "MY BIRDS! MY BIRDS!!!"
One of my all-time favorites! Especially compared to what we get now-a-days masquerading as science fiction! I have and will always love this movie!
"Last Day. Capricorn 15's. Year of the City....2274. Carousel begins!"
I was a floor covering installer in 1983. The crew I was with spent several months in the Dallas Apparel Mart in the World Trade Center recovering the floors, about 20,000 yards of carpet. That's when I learned about parts of Logan's Run having been filmed there. The Great Hall was really impressive. I say "was" because the Apparel Mart was torn down in 2004(?) to make room for a larger building. The Fort Worth Water Gardens was also mentioned. I've visited it. Still there and still impressive.
Jenny Agutter. Such a huge crush, what a gorgeous woman.
I had the impression that the sandmen were missing on purpose to toy with their victims.
Yeah you're probably right. I was just being sarcastic :-)
God, sandmen!
I remember seeing this as a kid on a sunday afternoon when they'd just have movies on randomly, it was surprising as it wasn't censored at all and this was the early 1980s.
Ah,those were the days…
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
You're in the wrong century
You repeat everything and learn nothing.
As a 9 year old...this film blew my mind...saw the film 6 times at my local movie theater...yes... At 9 and 10 yrs old I sometimes had to con my way into buying a ticket to a rated R movie...it was the 70's...what can I say...😁👍😜
Logan's Run was rated PG. You could definitely get away with a lot more in a PG rated movie in the 70s, particularly nudity.
I loved the film, being an impressionable teenager back then, and it's definitely a classic in my eyes. Unlike Dan, I quite liked Box, even if it did seem a bit on the flimsy side, probably due to the weirdness of the body shape and head, not to mention the voice. In this respect, the robot just felt 'different', as did the film itself. As for Jenny Agutter, well, what a fine, very attractive actress she was. Michael York was simply perfect for his role, too. This was an ambitious, star-studded film that fully deserves this excellent review, and it certainly brings back some wonderful memories. Thanks a lot, Dan, and greetings from England.
I'm 54 and saw Logans Run on VHS is the mid 80s. Oddly, the older I grow, the more accurate it feels. Thank you US healthcare.
Loved this movie. I remember going to the theater when it was released, saw it half a dozen times. Still love the movie and have my own DVD. All I have to say is Jenny!
The DS Sandman blaster is one of my favorite sci fi pieces. I have made a few for my prop collection. Also Jenny Agutter is Stunning. I love Michael York in this. I love the movie with all it's faults. And PG yes, but they did not have PG-13 back then. But even PG-13 might be stretch. Thanks for another great show.
Jenny Agutter was my young fantasy for a long time. I loved her. When I saw her again in Marvel's Captain America : Winter Soldier I just couldn't believe it. She's still stunning.
Thank you Mr. Pal for some of my favorite movies...'War of the Worlds', and 'The Time Machine'. I could watch those until my eyeballs fell out
Hey, Dan. In regards to the Sandmen being lousy shots..at the beginning when they are chasing the 'Runner' from Carousel, they are intentionally missing, toying with him to get him into the open. Then when they succeed in drawing him out, their shots are right on target. And when Logan and Francis are firing at each other they intentionally miss because they are friends and can't bring themselves to kill each other. [Francis himself makes this statement] So when Logan HAS to kill him to stop him, his shot is dead on. Also when Francis 'terminates' the female fugitive in the cathedral, he is dead on target. And the Marvel comics series adapted the movie in the first six issues, with No#7 starting the adaptation of the 'Logan's World' novel, but the series was cancelled because sci-fi comics just weren't popular at the time. Also Director Michael Anderson has a cameo in the film as the surgeon performing the 'New You' procedure on Logan.
In the mid 80s i had the opportunity to purchase one of the guns.
They used calcium carbide and water to make acetylene gas. And a battery heated wire for combustion.
I miss the days when movie props could be found at Sci-fi conventions.
so you’re the one who got there ahead of me 😂
@@kevink9938 I'd bought collectables from him before and after that. He wanted $250-300 for it. My limit for the weekend was half that. There were several pieces I had to pass on over the years.
Found out over a decade later, my husband worked for him in highschool and college.
Small world.
To be honest, the Sandmen were missing their targets on purpose as they had a bit of sadistic fun making the Runners jump about, punctuated by laughter.
There's a lot of truth to that. Lines that would be considered "throwaway" indicate that the sandmen looked at it as a sport rather than a job, and wanted a challenge (to some extent).
When the sandmen were shooting at the runner they were missing on purpose. They were toying with him.
15 year old teenager and walked into the theater for viewing and was Blown Away and being 15 the female outfits were wow, thought that outdoor scene was Malibu Creek (Live in SF. Valley) and yes own the DVD.
Jenny Agutter was soooo YUMMY!!
See "Walkabout".....
I think they were missing on purpose. They were toying with the runner and it showed the sadistic side of the Sandmen.
This is exactly how I saw it.
Same. Agreed 💯
Jessica (Jenny Agutter) was my first love as a teenager watching this film. Today, at 60, I would still marry her. Farrah was really appealing but, the sex appeal goes to Jenny/Jessica.
Oh yeah! She awakened something in my 11 year old self when I saw it on TV. Much more than Farrah.
I did read somewhere that the death age of 21 was changed to 30 because of the difficulty of getting the right actors to play the parts of such young leads.
He said that
@@markmiller6402 Yes, he said it was changed, but he didn't give the reason.
The book was so much different the sandmen had a high-tech 6 shot revolver which had a unique specialized round for each chamber - poison gas, explosive, armor piercing, a homing bullet etc. Part of the suspense of the book is you only had one shot with your favorite round so you had to be creative and strategic using the ammo in a fight, and when your on the run.
sounds like the lawgiver from judge dred
@@cl844 - The lawgiver from Judge Dred is essentially a rip-off of the Sandmen gun.
@@clit_niblr0375 even dredd sounds slight rip off of sandmen it started 10 years after logan novel plus dredd is set in a dome city and the judges are like sandmen in some.ways makes dredd look very cheap 😆😆😆😆
@@clit_niblr0375 or here is a crazy thought dredd is what the city turned into without life clocks? the jidges are sandmen now that could work as a theory or its the other way around the judges evolved and life clocks invented could work either way fiction is like clay
@@clit_niblr0375 the dredd comic has recycled food logan has recycled people..
A couple of the things the movie simply couldn't show was the scope of the civilization. When the book has Logan interacting with the kids on Muscle (think Meth mixed with Epinephrine and instant effect steroids) that was in "the dead zone" several hundred miles from tube linked domed
cities.
Yeah, that's why it would be neat if there was a really well done production of It today, kind of like they did with dune.
Saw it in the theater. Logans Run was about a year before Star Wars. Had to write a review of it for my high school English class. Still have the comic books!
Haha that's so cool :-) do you still have your report?
I do!! For the class, we had to watch a movie every week and do a review. At the end of the term, the teacher had put them into a pee-chee (remember those?) and returned them to us. I put it in a closet and it was still in my Mom's house!
So in 1977, when I was 4, I saw the first release of Star Wars at a drive-in. It was a double feature with Logan's Run as the second showing. And while I would love to say that my mind was blown by Star Wars (this would happen a year later when Star Wars was re-released in 1978 and I watched it in a theater), I'm afraid seeing a nekkid Jenny Agutter was. at that formative moment, much more important than anything else I had experienced in my first 4 years. I carried that memory for 46 years until about 2 weeks ago when I purchased Logan's Run and rewatched. I had good taste, even at 4 years old. 😆😆😆
She was also in Captain America: Winter Soldier playing one of Robert Redford's national security advisors.
Big fan of the Logan trilogy of books (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search). I also loved the movie when it came out and now when I re-read the novels it's always Michael York and Jenny Agutter I see in my mind. I'd love to see them do a remake of the movie following the novel more closely, and even then follow it up with Logan's World. The one thing I didn't like about the movie was changing the sandman gun to a simple "blaster" weapon. The six unique charges in the Sandman's revolver was something that made the weapon very versatile and deadly. No missing with a "homer".
Saw it at an outdoor theater that unfortunately, no longer exists. Man I miss the Drive In.
This movie was massive fun. Even Box.
The scene where they meet Peter Ustinov and his cats.....Classic, and a nice contrast to the movies overall darker theme. One of my favorites.
Oh, yeah, the costumes....whew!!!!
Oh ****. The Omega Man! The 70's was a great time to be a teenager.
How cool would it be if when and if they make a remake they cast Michael York as the old man ?
As a kid I was fascinated by Logans Run.
Jenny Agutter is a classic beauty.Thrilled to have found your channel.
She could make a shower curtain look like high fashion. A whole lotta people went on to be in Babylon 5.
Don’t forget that novel’s second author, George Clayton Johnson, who also gave us “Ocean’s 11”, and the first aired episode of Star Trek.
You got me on the kolchak episode.
Thank you for another great video. Also, thank you for pointing out the dystopian nature of a lot of sci-fi in the seventies. I remember catching the negativity of many TV shows and movies when I was a kid. I enjoyed the reruns of the original Star Trek, because they were the most positive sci-fi stories at the time.
Another scene cut from the final print was near the beginning of the movie, as Francis pursues and terminates a Runner in Arcade. The crowd applauds as Francis makes the kill, and the camera zooms in to the Runner's lifeclock as it goes black. The scene then dissolves into a closeup of a clear lifeclock as the camera pans back out to show one of the new babies in Nursery.
I was working for a company that made wall art at the time and had a showroom at the Apparel Mart (which is now The World Trade Center in Dallas) and one my pieces appears in the film. I can't remember off the top of my head if it was on the wall in Logan's apartment and can be seen over his shoulder or on the wall in the hallway when he opens the door.
Cool!
Thanks for the look back. I, too, loved this movie when it came out and have owned it in every format: VHS, DVD, Blu Ray and, if you can believe it, CED (Capacitance Electronic Disk), the format that killed RCA. Still have my SelectaVison player and the damn thing still works. I've kept it because it functions with something actually called a "flux capacitor." I really hope they do not ruin Logan's Run with a remake.
The extra in the ending scene doing the Vulcan salute is one of my best friends. His mother was owner of Wyse Talent Agency in Dallas and got him the part. That scene was filmed at the Forth Worth water gardens.
I'm from the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Our community was always so proud of this film. I kissed my 1st boy and got high at the Fort Worth Water Gardens. 😁
Lifetime Logan's Run fan. The day I finally was going to see the fountain, somebody from Chicago had drown in it. I wanted to stand on the edge and shout: "You can live...LIVE!!!" but my girlfriend wouldn't let me.
Nice :-)
Absolute classic. One of my fav pre-80s movies. And Jessica, whooooo-weee 😘😘👌
And who can forget her in An American Werewolf In London! 😀
I've watched this movie countless times. If you think Jenny Agutter outfit was daring for a PG film, you should see her "suit" in "Walkabout" made in 1971 with a G rating, incredible.
Farrah and I share a great grandmother, so we were second cousins, but I didn't know that when this movie came out. I was 16 and in love with her like all my friends were. Yes, we ALL had the poster! As far as me and my friends were concerned, If you didn't have that poster, there was just something wrong with you. Great times.
I never got the Farah thing. Then again, the dumb blond schtick was never my jam either. Now, Jenny A, whoa, what a looker.
heck, yeah, I had that poster - but, I fell in love with Jenny Agutter
I think Jenny Agutter had it written into her contract that she had to get naked in every movie she was in. She also got naked in Equus and Walkabout. I suspect Nastassja Kinski had a similar clause in her contract.
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You forgot An American Werewolf in London, where she played the nurse.
@@ooneybird27 Oh yes, I had forgotten that!
Only the gorgeous Jenny Agutter could upstage the gorgeous Farrah Fawcett-Majors (as credited in the film).
Very true :-)
She still looks good! Loved it when she showed up in the MCU Avengers and Captain America:The Winter Soldier.
@@MoviesMusicMonstersI like the video, but you say 'cool' way too much.
Very, very true.
Oh? Ever see a movie called One Million Years B.C.?
Haha! One of my favorite memories as a child was taking over the family room for about a week to do my own reproduction of the cityscape. It was made with the various construction toys I had growing up, so it was this amalgamation of Legos, Tinker Toys, Lincoln Logs, and Girdlers and Panels sets, dressed up with paper facades that looked like they were from the movie. Speaking of that design aesthetic, I've often wondered if the designer of Denver International Airport wasn't a fan of the movie...
That reproduction you did sounds fascinating.
I never knew cats have 3 different names until I saw this movie.
Dan, this was one of my favorite films of a lifetime. You're right about comparison to the original book. In fact, William Nolan was an aging hippy who lived in Van Nuys. It was fun, but also telling, seeing Farah in her tiny roll. But then, using Michael Anderson as the doctor was also rather unique. The gigantic waterfall/setting for returning to the city was actually from a beautiful/modern waterfall in the center of the city of Fort Worth). I had the pleasure of seeing it when visiting a relative. Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. p.s. ya, those outfits were totally cool for this youngster-back in 1976! It's still in my Top 5...along with "Somewhere in Time"...oh, please, don't quote roger ebert...or any of those other weirdos...let them try to make movies. Those miniatures were terrific back then! rl
Slight correction on the pistols the Sandmen carried. The chamber contained calcium carbonate and water, which produced _acetylene_ gas. There was a huge battery in the grip that lit a glow plug in the muzzle that ignited the gas. When I first saw it, I thought it was a very good rotoscope job. But no, It was just this amazing practical effect!
someone was actually selling these at a sci-fi con in the eighties. i wanted it so much but the price was too high for 17 y/o me.
I loved this movie when I was a kid. So much that my son’s name is Logan. I have since bought this movie and Omega Man, Soylent Green, all the Planet of the Apes movies, The Last Man on Earth, WestWorld, 2001 A Space Odyssey, The Black Hole, Testament and The Quiet Earth. You could say some of these movies were flops compared to today’s blockbuster’s with all the CGI, but I enjoyed going to the movies as a kid and these movies made my world more entertaining. Logan’s Run was so good as a young 10 year old you could almost see thru the actresses costumes as they wore these silk fabrics with nothing underneath!
And did you have a daughter you namedf Soylent?
1:41 I think you mean "Where dystopian societies masquerade as some weird utopia" as opposed to the other way around.
Dan, the idea of dying at 30 in the movie made perfect sense given the counterculture mantra of the '70's to never trust anyone over 30. I thought Logan's Run was great sci-fi and also very much enjoyed the costumes, too. The scenes in the Love Shack are the reason why you bought VCRs that could be paused, advanced frame by frame and run videos in slow-motion. 😍 You mentioned that nowadays we have an app for hooking up with someone for sex like Tinder. The Logan's Run version of Tinder was called the "Circuit" and that's how Logan (Michael York) hooked up with Jessica (Jenny Agutter).
From what I understood , Carousel was a ritual that everyone turning 30 had to go through in which they had a chance to have their life clock "renewed" (reset back to zero years elapsed). However, Logan began to question the arrangement when Francis casually asked him, "Why do people run? Why don't they take their chances like everyone else in Carousel?" Logan replied, "Have you ever met anyone who was renewed because I haven't."
I also read the book after watching the flick and the big difference with the book is that Sanctuary was a place that actually existed (albeit on another planet) whereas in the film, everyone who tried to make it there got frozen by Box. The scenes with the "Old Man" played by Peter Ustinov was a favorite of mine because I'm a cat lover and the Old Man was taking care of dozens and dozens of abandoned cats running around the Capitol Building. He said that cats have three names: one name that cat owners call them; another name that cats know other cats by, and a third "secret" name that only an individual cat knows what it is.
I still catch this film whenever it’s on TV, and Jenny Agutter was always a good watch in anything she did!, Great post as always Dan 👍
I loved Logan's Run when it first came out, and I own it this many years later. I love it just as much. Maybe even more.
There's things about Logan's Run I like (particularly the set design) but, like some other people:
* I long believed Box was capturing runners to serve as a food source for people in the city (and that the people controlling the city encouraged runners for this reason). Apparently not.
* The ending makes no sense at all
Jenny Agutter is jaw-droppingly beautiful in this film.
I was ten when this movie came out and living with my cousin Doug that year who was also ten. I remember seeing the movie and we did have that poster of Farrah on the wall.
When this was on I actually thought 30 was old lol. Lord what I wouldn't give to be 30 again.
LOL always stay young at heart
I was 12 years old when I saw Logan's Run in a theater and Jenny Agutter triggered something special in me.
Yeah, I have no doubt LOL
LOVED this film when I was a kid in the 70's and it aired on regular TV. Younger people today might have a hard time understanding (until they get older), but any older pieve has to be remembered with relative differences to today. It doesn't make any sense to make fun of something from the 1970's down while comparing to 2024 standards. This film had a great feel to it and loads of my favorite elements for sci-fi; finding yourself on the run with somebody sharing attraction, against odds but with strange, dangerous but interestingly beautiful surroundings. The lonely beauty of it.... ahh yes.
Oh and damn it Jenny Agutter... why do you have to be SO hot?
About the Sandmen being terrible shots: All the scenes you show are from the chase near the start of the film, where Logan and Francis are playing with the runner. They're missing on purpose because it's like a game to them. They wanted to scare the man, and make him panic.
There's one thing I never really understood about Box: He was designed to freeze food that was sent to him, and then when the food stopping coming and the runners started, he froze them. Is he still sending "food" to the city, or has he long since been forgotten, and he just continued to do what he was programmed for, even though it no longer matters?
Good question.
@@ooneybird27 Yes, but what I meant was...
At some point, Box served as an important part of the food supply chain. I presume this was for the city of domes. The food would come in, he'd freeze and presumably process it, then send it to the city. Is he still doing that with the runners? Is he processing them into some form of ready to eat protein and then sending it to the city?
Or did the city long ago stop accepting/collecting his shipments, and he's just doing all this for no other reason than that it's all he knows how to do.
I'm just wondering if the supply chain is still flowing, with Box doing his part, but now the "food" is human protein instead of plants and animals. Or is he just a crazy robot, alone in a cave, who no longer has a purpose.
If they had released this in 1977, it would had been lost in the mix to the Star Wars movie. They put it out just in time. I liked this movie and I watched the series as a kid as well.
Jessica was the entire reason I watched the movie... those legs! All these years later, still works for me!
Great review, and I'm so glad this film was rated PG, as I was able to see it in the theater at the ripe old age of 14. Let's say Jenny Agutter became a life long favorite!
Just like Jane Seymour. From Battlestar Galactica to Bond girl. Been hooked ever since.
@@ooneybird27 And don't forget Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. Another fond childhood memory. 🙂
Yes, we had the Farrah poster,
Loni Anderson too.
Has Jenny Agutter ever not looked beautiful?🤔❤️
Tell me about it! As a nurse in American Werewolf!
Sandmen weren't bad shots like stormtroopers. They were missing intentionally to play with the runner. This movie blew my mind when I was 7. Then Star Wars came, and we all forgot about it. Jessica 6 was the first naked chick I saw in a movie, and it was glorious.
Jenny was more naked in ‘Walk About’.
Like a cat. Did he really watch it?
@@SeanCanning-h5w yes, like a cat. I think he watched it, he just judged 1 scene wrong. Who knows? Clicks pay the bills these days.
All I know is...there is no sanctuary.
The Sandmen were not "missing", they were toying with terrified Runners. Nothing quite like a near miss to get the ol' heart pumping and urine flowing, eh? RUNNER!!!
So glad you covered Logan's Run that was a great review of one of my favourite movies. While I lived in Fort Worth I had to visit the film locations in DFW and loved that I could walk to the Water Garden from my apartment. I first saw the TV series and cannot wait to see you talk about that too.
Another wonderful Sci-Fi film of the 70s, with excellent acting and story. Although the special effects were somewhat exciting, they weren’t revolutionary, as were Star Wars’ a year later. This film would be unforgettable had it had a team of special effects masters working it. Farrah Fawcett, in her best years while married to Lee Major, was one of the main reasons young people flocked to the cinema to catch this film.