Ah thanks. I was paying more attention to your riding skills than the bikes. I'm torn between 27.5 and 29er so this vid was perfect. I'll rewatch it and look at the Garmin. These were sick trails.
Hey Bro,stop smocking, drinking and don`t mess around with women, so u spend a lot of money. buy u a bike like that, and u can ride strait to the sunset like Lucky Luke.
I know you said it was not a bike review but that was probably the most relevant bike test/review I have watched in a long time. Great info and done on real trails by real bikers. Great stuff dude!!
Man that means a lot! I just meant that we are not a bike mag and we are not pro riders.... we're just a couple dudes that love riding and have no reason to give you anything but the honest opinion!
Yeah, I think you knocked the nail on the head. I truly believe that is what people would prefer and need to see. Keep at it Alex, your doing a great job! (I need to get you on my MTB-TRIBE Podcast sometime in the near future!) Have a great week. Ride it like a marine!
You're awesome man you're energy and your always happy when you're on a bike I love watching that excitement it makes me want to go ride an I love that! Always love to see the notification of a new video keep it up bro!
Doesn’t matter how many videos or reviews I watch or read. It all comes back down to what you like more. What feels better and makes you more confident. I have both wheels sizes and use them for different things. Love them both and wouldn’t be able to answer the question. Cheers.
I know you said it wasn’t a bike review, but I thought it was one of the best comparison/reviews I’ve seen. Nice job..looked like a lot of fun to boot! I’m an inch away from ordering a 4.5 Turq x01 Eagle...this vid might be the nudge I need! Keep shredding man!
I liked Mr Tonka's attitude on your bike crash. Shows the spirit of a true mountain biker. Kudos to him. And thank you Alex for taking us along. I can't wait for the next vid.
Two great bikes. I'd love to have either one. If I lived and rode primarily in FL I'd probably go with the 4.5, but he's got both so best of both worlds. And IMO people make too big a deal about 27.5 or 29. Try both and see what works for you. There isn't a right or wrong size.
I love the fact that your showing off more of Florida. Also, not that I could ever afford a yeti, I love how you did this. The way you did this make me like the 5 over the 4.5... Your riding them right and showing two different styles of riding, and I think the way your capturing this, can help people make a choice without ever even getting on one....
Awesome video, Alex! I liked the fact that you were sessioning stuff and changing bikes constantly. It was very interesting to hear your comments, and I was quite surprised that you preferred the 4.5 over the 5 for jumps. What you said makes a lot of sense, though. Those trails looked fun but fairly tame; the gnarly stuff wasn't high-level. LFRHGS, bro!
Absolutely. I think that if we did this test in Pisgah, NC or at a bike park it may be a completely different story. Thanks though dude, stoked you enjoyed it!!
Something to keep in mind is the fork differences, not only in travel but in damping. You can make the same bike feel dangerous or confidence inspiring just with a change in damper valving. You can also make a bike jump better with damping.
Recently upgraded to a 29er hardtail from a 10+ year old 26er. The new bike feels like a damn giant under me. I still don't feel entirely used to it yet but I think I will come to love it very soon. It already feels great, just very different from what I was used to. Funny how you preferred one bike over the other in certain situations, but maybe that's not too surprising. Fun video! And thanks to the baller ($$$) who owns both and let you do this video.
Hey Alex, first I have to compliment you on how your channel has developed, I love your videos and I look forward to them. I'm a 40 year old guy with a family and full time job who loves to ride but obviously can't ride as much as I want, so I get to live through you! I know you make your videos to share the stoke and that's exactly what I get out of them! I liked your last video comparing your trail riding experience between the 29er and 27.5 and I'm not surprised that's how it turned out, but I'd be super excited to see the same video done at a bike part or downhill trails. I've been riding a carbon framed, carbon wheeled 29er trail bike for the last year and it's super fast and capable, but I really miss the agility and fun of my 27.5 bike so I'm considering switching back. LFRHGS!!!
great vid def some helpful tips... just one thing its always funny to see two totally diff personalities together.. Your boy is sooooo laid back could almost fall asleep just looking at him... LMAO sorry just being honest. and u r more like me just letting all your emotions loose, yelling over jumps in excitement, to me thats livin man.. I love it keep up the good work and awesome riding along with your great vids... Thanx for doing them!!!!
For all the people who hate on guys with money and kick ass bikes.. A. Land Rover boy can ride and B. how cool was that to let TSS thrash his bike.. Great Video!! 4.5 all the way!
And C) you can't in good conscience hate on Joe, dude is as solid, chill and friendly as it gets. He's no playboy either, after you know him a bit you can tell that every Yeti of his is an investment.
Most important thing, get past all the techy stuff and go ride! I have a Enduro comp 29er, so much fun. The most miserable part of my mountain biking experience was finally deciding on "the bike." It was fun research, but when it came time to pay, so difficult. Just glad to be riding now.
Both bikes are fantastic. I got to rent a 4.5 a while back and was really impressed with how well it pedaled over my SB5+ and still took on descents like a champ. I'd love to go to the extream and try the 5.5, it'd be a hoot to go full enduro for a day. :D
I demoed the 5.5 in Boulder and with Eagle on the 5.5 it climbs just like the 4.5 non eagle. Pretty much effortlessly. But the suspension is ridiculously plush. I overshot a jump at Valmont and landed on the flat and swore it felt like landing on transition. Beast of a bike the 5.5. If i lived in Colorado, i think that's the bike i'd have.
Alex I think the reason why the 29er feels more natural is the way it holds or carries momentum. It makes obstacles and such easier to handle. Great review. I only ride 29er's and and recently got a Slash 29er...very similar to the SB5.5 which I think if you went Yeti the SB5.5 would be the go to bike.
Always putting out great content. Besides your live streams this has been one of my favorite video of yours. Keep up all the good work. Pumped me up to go on a ride today. Smeeeaaaassshhhh!
Great video!! I rode the 4.5 on a demo day last year and it was my favorite bike ever until I rode the 5.5!! If I lived anywhere other than the Pacific Northwest, I'd buy a 4.5 all day long, but here I need that extra travel.
I feel like the huge difference in handlebar lengths would play a big role in how you described the 4.5 feeling more nimble. I also think, based on the components you mentioned, the 4.5 is probably lighter.
I think it really depends on how and where you ride. I've demoed 4.5, 5, 5+, 5.5, and 6 over the last couple years. I'd go for the 4.5 now that I recently moved back to Michigan if I were still thinking of a new bike. I'm happiest on my hardtails now though. Would have gone 5.5 or 6 to replace my aging SB66 if I had not moved back from Colorado for family reasons.
I am building up my first official 29er (Evil Following MB). I had a 27.5+ before this build. So I'd go with the 29er. They are fast and maneuverable and with the volume spacers that can be added to the suspension, the bike can handle pretty much anything you throw at it.
Singletrack Sampler time! What's up, Alex? how's your Wednesday going for you? What have you for us, today? Let's ride! 0:05 - Right off the bat, you give me something to comment on. And that comment is, your jumping skills have come a long way, yes? 0:32 - Actually, I haven't gotten to the point of wondering which one to buy...yet. I *have* wondered if I can get them in other colors besides that sea blue, though. Haha! 6:34 - I wish I could jump just in general. 7:00 - Wow, that's a super nice drop. It's got a nice landing, super fast. I could ride that one! Woohoo! 8:50 - Cool shot, dude! 13:30 - My understanding is that the 29ers are great for stability and feeling more control, but are mules when it comes to climbing. My Fuse Expert is a 27.5 but it's listed as a 29er because the tires are much larger. I love it, but like I said it climbs like a mule. I've never ridden anything other than my Fuse except for one time when I rode a Pivot demo. Even then, I think what I rode was a 29er. I know the smaller diameter wheels on the 27.5 are supposed to be a bit more nimble and better at climbing, but I think I might not feel as comfortable on that since I'm so used to the larger wheels. This was a great comparison video. Good job on it, Alex. I think my biggest question still remains, can I get that bike in other colors? Haha! Stay upright and keep the rubber side down. #lfrhgs -Brian
What up Brian!! Happy Wednesday to you too bro :D 1. Thanks man, you know I've been working so hard at it! 2. What??? You can't go getting a yeti if everyone won't know right away that it's a Yeti!! :P 3. werk werk werk werk werk 4. I think that the 29ers actually climb quite well, especially when over rougher stuff since it has better roll over Glad you enjoyed, because we sure did making it! LFRHGS
They do come in other "colors". Black (really, it's a color) and the 4.5 is currently only available in Black and a really cool Storm blue which is not pictured in this video.
My 27.5 plus bike (which I'm told rides like a 29er) isn't the best at climbing. Granted, that may be due to the extra weight of the tires and not the diameter of the wheel.
The SB5 "Lunch Ride" is a Yeti limited bike and it is essentially an SB5 with a 160 fork instead of a 140 fork. It is what the workers of Yeti prefer to take out on their lunch rides, thus the name. Had it had the 140 fork the SB5 would have been even nimbler. So if you were to go on an all out downhill I think the SB5 would have been the clear ' winner', but you truly can't lose when you are on a super bike like that. Both are so amazing. Plus you're pretty tall right? The 29er wheels might just feel better with your body. They look amazing too.
Cool info. But when I use to test many moons ago. We would have to change Stems and bars to make sure they are what we always used racing, plus the pedals. Air in forks and rear shock needs to be recorded for the tight turns and jumps. Over all out of the box test wasn't that bad.
I think that the feelings versus data is extremely relevant and appreciate the perspective. Curious what is your height/reach? Wondering if your leverage and body size may make the 29 more comfortable than someone of a shorter, stockier stature like Seth.
Thanks dude! I'm 5'10" but not sure about my reach.... I definitely think that height can have a big impact on wheel size. I wouldn't expect a kid to feel great on a 29er for instance
Arguably a better comparison would have been the 5 and 5.5 (29er with comparable suspension to the 5) -- maybe another episode! I'm sure the light wheels on the 4.5 helped mitigate the common criticism of 29ers (harder to get up to speed and more effort turning at speed).
As much as you seemed to like the 4.5 I'd like to see you try a Hightower it or following more better'er. Regarding your wiggle room comment it's why I just bought an evil insurgent frame. Coming off a 10 year hiatus and also being a disabled vet with a fused cervical spine I want the extra travel and slackness if I get a line wrong. Can't wait to build it up and ride again....thanks in part to you Alexander @singletracksampler
Very nice trying out a 29ers vs. 27.5s expensive bikes though for pros only not for causal riders definitely. Good video capture is amazing on what you expect on a trail. I like more rides than talk when comparing these. Really great comparison.
Great video, in my head i think i would pick the SB5 but until you ride you never know ! I would be happy to own either of these bikes, cant wait for the next video.
If I had to guess I'd say the reason you prefered the SB4.5 is that the shorter suspension made it more springy and easier to get airborne. Not as much suspension to absorb your jumps. But who knows, there are a lot of variables. This just shows how important it is to demo stuff and not buy a bike based on what you think you need.
I thought your comment about the 4.5 feeling playful was pretty interesting. I have one, and that was one of the things I loved about it when I took one on a demo. Being more of a cross-country / trail oriented guy, I really enjoy the ability to get up to speed and keep the speed up that the 29er has. Anyhow, it was great to get your opinions and see the bikes in action.
When I bought my mountain bike it was still 26" all the way. I couldn't ride for a number of years because of health issues, but I recently started to do so again. When looking a multiple comparison videos it seems to me the number one question should be: can I have my favourite riding position on the bike? Something that shouldn't be a problem for most, but it is for small riders. Yes, a larger wheel rolls more easily over obstacles and smaller wheels can be lighter so they can accelerate more easily, but almost all other stuff is down to geometry choices from the manufacturer, which even seem to change for the same brand/model when they change wheel size. For most people those design choices are much more important to determine how much fun they have on a certain bike. I managed to break a bone last time on the bike, so no cycling for me the next couple of weeks, so I know how Seth feels ;-) and I hope my bike can still survive a couple years to come. Sadly price is also a very important aspect for me, so besides the fact I do want a fully with dropper post next time almost nothing is decided yet. Years ago a fully was a lot more expensive and didn't/doesn't give a great advantage in my area compared to a hardtail with cane creek seat post suspension. Since I like to play with my bike the next one needs a dropper post, so no choice but go for a fully..
Funny at the end review you say " I don't think I'd take tis bike to a bike park". In 2017 in the BME at Keystone bike park ALL 5 podium spots were the Yeti team in pro men and almost all 5 in pro Women! Keystone is the most knarly techy park in Colorado.
I own a SB5 and I agree. My 29er hardtail will rip down some trails better that are much less chuck and tech. When I go out to Moab or some of rock chunk trails of northern UT I always grab the 5.
Cool comparison, back to back. I do wonder how much the carbon hoops on the 29 made it feel much better. They do make a huge difference, especially compared to heavy enduro rims.
Great video Alex, I love you videos. I was not surprised that you liked the 29er. I have been riding one for a few years now, and I only get better and better on it. I even do better on the chunk and tech than most of my 27.5 friends. Smash!
I noticed that the 4.5 had an oval chainring that the owner said was an upgrade he installed. Do you think that had anything to do with the "better" climbing that you remarked on?
steve yeager This is really worth consideration. For the last two weeks I've been trying on my excellent Canyon Spectral a 28-tooth oval (WolfTooth) and a 32-tooth oval (same) as well as the 30-tooth round (RaceFace) that came with the build. The difference is significant, though not surprising. I think I'd go with the 28 oval for ease of climbing, the 32 oval (effectively 34 on the downstroke and 30 over the top) for power. Not sure there's any advantage in a round chainring except that it has a more familiar feel (at first). Interesting topic, but probably too detailed for Alex or Seth or Jeff to consider for a video. As to Yetis, my older trail bike is a Yeti 575 from 2004: steep fork angle, easy to get bucked over the bars if your form isn't that great....not at all like the geometry of the newer SB series; all the same I loaned it this summer to a nice gal who proceeded to win her enduro class on it. Lovely bikes. Wish I could afford a good build of the 4.5 or 5!
I struggled between a 27.5 and 29r, I ended up going with the Transition Sentinel 29r, I've been very happy with it. It rolls so nicely over all of the sharp ended rocks and chatter we have here in southern Utah and climbs as well as any other medium/long travel bike I've had, perhaps a bit better due to the steep seat angle. I am actually going to do a cross country race with it next month - I never claimed to be smart.
Alex! Cool vid man. I really liked and related to what you said around 9:05. Ive been on monster bikes like the Trans Sentinel or 2018 Kona Proc 153 and dropped areas I hadnt taken on the trails ever. Then I aquired my Evil Following and had after first initial set up rides, not only had the confdnce to hit these tech sections, but also just had a good feeling on the bike, but was a little more "aware" of my line, but still had gusto to take it, and even beat PRs on these trails at that on a shorter trav bike! It is crazy I dont know 100% of the answer either like you, but I am incredibly stoked on my bike on everything that is thrown at me while on trail. In fact, I have MORE confidence to smash down these trails. I think you also hit the nail on the head is that these bikes have the capability, but you need to be more aware and are actually using better handling skills than a monster truck bike that, like you said in another vid, like your on a couch! lol Awesome vid, this was a great info vid on these 2 bikes, best Ive seen to date!!
Hey I think your “not a comparison but my opinion” was good. I liked the in the moment critique. I’m considering a new purchase and this perspective helps
The only thing about the 29er is you can or whip or throw it around as much, I have a 29er and that's the thing, it climbs great and it's fast but I like to go all out on every ride I do
New subscriber here! Dude, your positive energy is infectious. You're inspiring me to get back to MTBing after 11 years away from it. What do you think about the Motobecane FS bikes on BikesDirect in the $900-$1,100 range?
Great vid! On a completely random note...next time you're in Kansas you should check out Switchgrass trail (Previously IMBA Epic). It's a little different from what you guys normally ride, but would love to see a vid of you guys out there. Just a thought...keep up the good work!
A constructive bit of feedback, I'm missing some reflection on the pretty notable drivetrain differences - How do you think the AB ring vs the standard round one on the 27, impacted the flow, acceleration and climbing experience?
Now you need to ride the SB 5.5 and the 6! I have an older SB75. Love it! It's basically the 5 but with the old switch eccentric link instead of the switch infinity. I have a friend who made a hybrid SB and it rides awesome. He has an SB6 with the 27.5 on the rear and switched the fork and front wheel to 29. That thing rides like nothing else. Great roll over and speed but quick and nibble and so stable!! If he didn't know where I lived I probably would have never returned it after I road it! ;) My next bike will be another Yeti just not sure which one.
Fun video Alex! In your final thoughts, when you were talking about what you'd take to a bike park and through the chunk, I think you'd be surprised. If you like the feel of the 29r on XCish trails, I think you'd like it in the chunk due to the larger circumference/angle of attack, they roll over stuff much easier. I switched to 27.5 though because I personally felt like the 29 was lacking agility, and I wouldn't go back at this point. Great vid!
Hey Joe, you're a good dude. Anyone who can be so gracious to let someone shred their Yeti, has to be a good dude.
You kept saying "this bike" and "that bike" but since you kept switching I couldn't tell which bike you were talking about. LOL.
+ZillaYT pro tip: Garmin is on the yet sb5 😜
Ah thanks. I was paying more attention to your riding skills than the bikes. I'm torn between 27.5 and 29er so this vid was perfect. I'll rewatch it and look at the Garmin. These were sick trails.
I have looked at a Yeti mountain bike. Then I looked in my wallet, and that was the end of that...
hahahaha you and me both my friend
Nick Hepler haha, great 😂
Hey Bro,stop smocking, drinking and don`t mess around with women, so u spend a lot of money. buy u a bike like that, and u can ride strait to the sunset like Lucky Luke.
😂😂😂😂😂🤭
Nick Hepler , don’t say that .. say I want that bike .. then miracles happens , soon enough u get a awesome ride cheers
I know you said it was not a bike review but that was probably the most relevant bike test/review I have watched in a long time. Great info and done on real trails by real bikers. Great stuff dude!!
Man that means a lot! I just meant that we are not a bike mag and we are not pro riders.... we're just a couple dudes that love riding and have no reason to give you anything but the honest opinion!
Yeah, I think you knocked the nail on the head. I truly believe that is what people would prefer and need to see. Keep at it Alex, your doing a great job! (I need to get you on my MTB-TRIBE Podcast sometime in the near future!) Have a great week. Ride it like a marine!
You're awesome man you're energy and your always happy when you're on a bike I love watching that excitement it makes me want to go ride an I love that! Always love to see the notification of a new video keep it up bro!
Derek Edwards you had your and youre the wrong way around in the first sentence. It's your energy and you're always happy
It probably could also mean theres no difference between the two.
Doesn’t matter how many videos or reviews I watch or read. It all comes back down to what you like more. What feels better and makes you more confident. I have both wheels sizes and use them for different things. Love them both and wouldn’t be able to answer the question. Cheers.
Great vid great trails! Look amazing! Think the 45 is the 29? Be easier to follow referring to 29 or 27.5 but appreciate your time. Superb vid👍🏻
It's easier when you know the 27.5 is the one with the garmin on the cockpit.
I know you said it wasn’t a bike review, but I thought it was one of the best comparison/reviews I’ve seen. Nice job..looked like a lot of fun to boot! I’m an inch away from ordering a 4.5 Turq x01 Eagle...this vid might be the nudge I need! Keep shredding man!
it's highly unlikely you'll regret it.
I liked Mr Tonka's attitude on your bike crash. Shows the spirit of a true mountain biker. Kudos to him. And thank you Alex for taking us along. I can't wait for the next vid.
These are the exact two bikes I am looking at. Thank you for the comparison. Your videos are great and your passion for biking is contagious!
I was worried this video would be boring & senseless, but when it ended, I was still ready to watch more. Great job!
I’ve waited for this video! Great comparison. Yeti has been my dream bike ever since, looking forward to more of these videos. Keep it up!
Two great bikes. I'd love to have either one. If I lived and rode primarily in FL I'd probably go with the 4.5, but he's got both so best of both worlds. And IMO people make too big a deal about 27.5 or 29. Try both and see what works for you. There isn't a right or wrong size.
preach bro, you tell 'em!
I love the fact that your showing off more of Florida. Also, not that I could ever afford a yeti, I love how you did this. The way you did this make me like the 5 over the 4.5... Your riding them right and showing two different styles of riding, and I think the way your capturing this, can help people make a choice without ever even getting on one....
Awesome video, Alex! I liked the fact that you were sessioning stuff and changing bikes constantly. It was very interesting to hear your comments, and I was quite surprised that you preferred the 4.5 over the 5 for jumps. What you said makes a lot of sense, though. Those trails looked fun but fairly tame; the gnarly stuff wasn't high-level.
LFRHGS, bro!
Absolutely. I think that if we did this test in Pisgah, NC or at a bike park it may be a completely different story. Thanks though dude, stoked you enjoyed it!!
I love this guy. Your channel is my new favourite. Your enthusiasm is electric.
Even better is that he's the exact same guy when the camera is off. He's a good dude!
His enthusiasm is electric, but his bike is manual.
I like the comparison! If nothing else, it confirms there's more than one way to crack an egg!
Or a fork. :D
Sb 4.5 is the 29er ... Your welccome
Good job parroting Joe's explanation in the start.
Something to keep in mind is the fork differences, not only in travel but in damping. You can make the same bike feel dangerous or confidence inspiring just with a change in damper valving. You can also make a bike jump better with damping.
Recently upgraded to a 29er hardtail from a 10+ year old 26er. The new bike feels like a damn giant under me. I still don't feel entirely used to it yet but I think I will come to love it very soon. It already feels great, just very different from what I was used to. Funny how you preferred one bike over the other in certain situations, but maybe that's not too surprising. Fun video! And thanks to the baller ($$$) who owns both and let you do this video.
Hey Alex, first I have to compliment you on how your channel has developed, I love your videos and I look forward to them. I'm a 40 year old guy with a family and full time job who loves to ride but obviously can't ride as much as I want, so I get to live through you! I know you make your videos to share the stoke and that's exactly what I get out of them! I liked your last video comparing your trail riding experience between the 29er and 27.5 and I'm not surprised that's how it turned out, but I'd be super excited to see the same video done at a bike part or downhill trails. I've been riding a carbon framed, carbon wheeled 29er trail bike for the last year and it's super fast and capable, but I really miss the agility and fun of my 27.5 bike so I'm considering switching back. LFRHGS!!!
Awesome, digging that stumpy lurking in the background too.
great vid def some helpful tips... just one thing its always funny to see two totally diff personalities together.. Your boy is sooooo laid back could almost fall asleep just looking at him... LMAO sorry just being honest. and u r more like me just letting all your emotions loose, yelling over jumps in excitement, to me thats livin man.. I love it keep up the good work and awesome riding along with your great vids... Thanx for doing them!!!!
Great vid, I love the back to back comparison. I ride a 17 stumpy 29er and LOVE it! Ride on
For all the people who hate on guys with money and kick ass bikes.. A. Land Rover boy can ride and B. how cool was that to let TSS thrash his bike.. Great Video!! 4.5 all the way!
And C) you can't in good conscience hate on Joe, dude is as solid, chill and friendly as it gets. He's no playboy either, after you know him a bit you can tell that every Yeti of his is an investment.
Most important thing, get past all the techy stuff and go ride! I have a Enduro comp 29er, so much fun. The most miserable part of my mountain biking experience was finally deciding on "the bike." It was fun research, but when it came time to pay, so difficult. Just glad to be riding now.
"maybe we don't know what we're talking about" haha
This is one of the best comparison videos I’ve seen in a long long time mate. Much more natural, honest and real!! Keep shredding dude. 🤘🏼
Damn man thank you so much!!! Yea, we're just some average joe's with no reason to do anything other than tell it how we feel it!
This was very informative. Thank you for the comparison I found it most helpful in my decision making for the right bike.
Really digged this video! Enjoyed the comparisons! Good stuff brother!
Glad to hear about the Agressor, I just put that tire on my rear wheel. We'll see what it does!
You remind me of a young fit Santa Clause with a reaction of a kid opening presents 😂😂👍👍
Those Yetys are sick dude man thanks for sharing.
Awesome video. I love the good old-fashioned sessioning.
It really takes you back to being a kid!
Great video. Love my home trails being featured. The 29er is a great bike for everything in this area especially short travel with trail geometry.
Both bikes are fantastic. I got to rent a 4.5 a while back and was really impressed with how well it pedaled over my SB5+ and still took on descents like a champ. I'd love to go to the extream and try the 5.5, it'd be a hoot to go full enduro for a day. :D
I demoed the 5.5 in Boulder and with Eagle on the 5.5 it climbs just like the 4.5 non eagle. Pretty much effortlessly. But the suspension is ridiculously plush. I overshot a jump at Valmont and landed on the flat and swore it felt like landing on transition. Beast of a bike the 5.5. If i lived in Colorado, i think that's the bike i'd have.
The 4.5 sounds like the ticket. Looks like they stepped up Alafia! Can't wait to head over. Nice vid brother!
Alex I think the reason why the 29er feels more natural is the way it holds or carries momentum. It makes obstacles and such easier to handle. Great review. I only ride 29er's and and recently got a Slash 29er...very similar to the SB5.5 which I think if you went Yeti the SB5.5 would be the go to bike.
27.5 for life !!!
After watching this video, I feel like you can’t go wrong with a 27.5 or a 29er. You’ll have an awesome time with either type!
Always putting out great content. Besides your live streams this has been one of my favorite video of yours. Keep up all the good work. Pumped me up to go on a ride today. Smeeeaaaassshhhh!
Great video!! I rode the 4.5 on a demo day last year and it was my favorite bike ever until I rode the 5.5!! If I lived anywhere other than the Pacific Northwest, I'd buy a 4.5 all day long, but here I need that extra travel.
The day I get to know that practically I'm unemployed on 1st of Feb and feel absolutelly gutted about it, You, Seth and Brian upload a video. Thanks.
Polish guy with hard to spell name ;-p "........keep ur chin up bro.
I'll be back in Tampa Feb 3 for a demo and some riding and at the Santos Fat Tire Fest. Are you in Florida?
Your riding has progressed so much man keep up the good work.
what an awesome trail to be test riding bikes on
I feel like the huge difference in handlebar lengths would play a big role in how you described the 4.5 feeling more nimble. I also think, based on the components you mentioned, the 4.5 is probably lighter.
So which of these super bikes do you think you would go with if you had a choice?
Most of the 27.5 bikes I've ridden were pedal strike city because of the low BB, so I'd be tempted to go with the 29er, but I bet they are both great.
4.5 29er
I think it really depends on how and where you ride. I've demoed 4.5, 5, 5+, 5.5, and 6 over the last couple years. I'd go for the 4.5 now that I recently moved back to Michigan if I were still thinking of a new bike. I'm happiest on my hardtails now though. Would have gone 5.5 or 6 to replace my aging SB66 if I had not moved back from Colorado for family reasons.
I am building up my first official 29er (Evil Following MB). I had a 27.5+ before this build. So I'd go with the 29er. They are fast and maneuverable and with the volume spacers that can be added to the suspension, the bike can handle pretty much anything you throw at it.
I'd go 4.5! I got to test a pivot 429 trail and surprisingly preferred it also in 29er form.
Singletrack Sampler time! What's up, Alex? how's your Wednesday going for you? What have you for us, today? Let's ride!
0:05 - Right off the bat, you give me something to comment on. And that comment is, your jumping skills have come a long way, yes?
0:32 - Actually, I haven't gotten to the point of wondering which one to buy...yet. I *have* wondered if I can get them in other colors besides that sea blue, though. Haha!
6:34 - I wish I could jump just in general.
7:00 - Wow, that's a super nice drop. It's got a nice landing, super fast. I could ride that one! Woohoo!
8:50 - Cool shot, dude!
13:30 - My understanding is that the 29ers are great for stability and feeling more control, but are mules when it comes to climbing. My Fuse Expert is a 27.5 but it's listed as a 29er because the tires are much larger. I love it, but like I said it climbs like a mule.
I've never ridden anything other than my Fuse except for one time when I rode a Pivot demo. Even then, I think what I rode was a 29er. I know the smaller diameter wheels on the 27.5 are supposed to be a bit more nimble and better at climbing, but I think I might not feel as comfortable on that since I'm so used to the larger wheels.
This was a great comparison video. Good job on it, Alex. I think my biggest question still remains, can I get that bike in other colors? Haha!
Stay upright and keep the rubber side down.
#lfrhgs
-Brian
What up Brian!! Happy Wednesday to you too bro :D
1. Thanks man, you know I've been working so hard at it!
2. What??? You can't go getting a yeti if everyone won't know right away that it's a Yeti!! :P
3. werk werk werk werk werk
4. I think that the 29ers actually climb quite well, especially when over rougher stuff since it has better roll over
Glad you enjoyed, because we sure did making it!
LFRHGS
They do come in other "colors". Black (really, it's a color) and the 4.5 is currently only available in Black and a really cool Storm blue which is not pictured in this video.
My 27.5 plus bike (which I'm told rides like a 29er) isn't the best at climbing. Granted, that may be due to the extra weight of the tires and not the diameter of the wheel.
The SB5 "Lunch Ride" is a Yeti limited bike and it is essentially an SB5 with a 160 fork instead of a 140 fork. It is what the workers of Yeti prefer to take out on their lunch rides, thus the name. Had it had the 140 fork the SB5 would have been even nimbler. So if you were to go on an all out downhill I think the SB5 would have been the clear ' winner', but you truly can't lose when you are on a super bike like that. Both are so amazing. Plus you're pretty tall right? The 29er wheels might just feel better with your body. They look amazing too.
Cool info. But when I use to test many moons ago. We would have to change Stems and bars to make sure they are what we always used racing, plus the pedals. Air in forks and rear shock needs to be recorded for the tight turns and jumps.
Over all out of the box test wasn't that bad.
I think that the feelings versus data is extremely relevant and appreciate the perspective. Curious what is your height/reach? Wondering if your leverage and body size may make the 29 more comfortable than someone of a shorter, stockier stature like Seth.
Thanks dude! I'm 5'10" but not sure about my reach.... I definitely think that height can have a big impact on wheel size. I wouldn't expect a kid to feel great on a 29er for instance
The Singletrack Sampler Ah, I thought you were taller! Thanks and keep up the awesomeness.
That just mean Seth is way short!;) LOL
I thought you were taller as well, just judging by sight in your videos. Do you typically ride medium or large?
Arguably a better comparison would have been the 5 and 5.5 (29er with comparable suspension to the 5) -- maybe another episode! I'm sure the light wheels on the 4.5 helped mitigate the common criticism of 29ers (harder to get up to speed and more effort turning at speed).
Love the collaboration!!! Great edit to both of you! Love those Yeti!
SB5.5 - best of both worlds. I have one and it is sick.
Hard to believe that you liked the niner more...good info throughout, thanks.
Great video. I'm not surprised you preferred the 4.5 in most conditions. That bike is a sports car!
That's actually a good way of putting it: sports car vs SUV
How about 2d sports car vs 4d sports car? ;)
Nice comparison guys! Looking forward to riding with both of you again soon! FreightTrainShane
As much as you seemed to like the 4.5 I'd like to see you try a Hightower it or following more better'er. Regarding your wiggle room comment it's why I just bought an evil insurgent frame. Coming off a 10 year hiatus and also being a disabled vet with a fused cervical spine I want the extra travel and slackness if I get a line wrong. Can't wait to build it up and ride again....thanks in part to you Alexander @singletracksampler
Very nice trying out a 29ers vs. 27.5s expensive bikes though for pros only not for causal riders definitely. Good video capture is amazing on what you expect on a trail. I like more rides than talk when comparing these. Really great comparison.
Great video well put together
Great video, in my head i think i would pick the SB5 but until you ride you never know ! I would be happy to own either of these bikes, cant wait for the next video.
If I had to guess I'd say the reason you prefered the SB4.5 is that the shorter suspension made it more springy and easier to get airborne. Not as much suspension to absorb your jumps. But who knows, there are a lot of variables. This just shows how important it is to demo stuff and not buy a bike based on what you think you need.
2:06 nice bikes Jean-Claude Van Damme
I have both 29 and 27.5 bikes. I refuse to choose, love them both. I do like the 29 for more cross country stuff. Nice man
Just pulled up to the trail and got the notification. Guess I'll take an extra 15 minutes to get stoked before the ride.
Yeaaaaa boi!
I thought your comment about the 4.5 feeling playful was pretty interesting. I have one, and that was one of the things I loved about it when I took one on a demo. Being more of a cross-country / trail oriented guy, I really enjoy the ability to get up to speed and keep the speed up that the 29er has.
Anyhow, it was great to get your opinions and see the bikes in action.
When I bought my mountain bike it was still 26" all the way. I couldn't ride for a number of years because of health issues, but I recently started to do so again. When looking a multiple comparison videos it seems to me the number one question should be: can I have my favourite riding position on the bike? Something that shouldn't be a problem for most, but it is for small riders.
Yes, a larger wheel rolls more easily over obstacles and smaller wheels can be lighter so they can accelerate more easily, but almost all other stuff is down to geometry choices from the manufacturer, which even seem to change for the same brand/model when they change wheel size. For most people those design choices are much more important to determine how much fun they have on a certain bike.
I managed to break a bone last time on the bike, so no cycling for me the next couple of weeks, so I know how Seth feels ;-) and I hope my bike can still survive a couple years to come. Sadly price is also a very important aspect for me, so besides the fact I do want a fully with dropper post next time almost nothing is decided yet.
Years ago a fully was a lot more expensive and didn't/doesn't give a great advantage in my area compared to a hardtail with cane creek seat post suspension. Since I like to play with my bike the next one needs a dropper post, so no choice but go for a fully..
Really Rad Comparison Ride!! Live-Life-Loud!!!
Funny at the end review you say " I don't think I'd take tis bike to a bike park". In 2017 in the BME at Keystone bike park ALL 5 podium spots were the Yeti team in pro men and almost all 5 in pro Women! Keystone is the most knarly techy park in Colorado.
That was a awesome video, those jumps! 12:15 lol
I own a SB5 and I agree. My 29er hardtail will rip down some trails better that are much less chuck and tech. When I go out to Moab or some of rock chunk trails of northern UT I always grab the 5.
Really cool video. Thanks for sharing guys.
Really good review. Good style, fun to watch.
Cool comparison, back to back. I do wonder how much the carbon hoops on the 29 made it feel much better. They do make a huge difference, especially compared to heavy enduro rims.
Amazing video, love your channel man
Great video Alex, I love you videos. I was not surprised that you liked the 29er. I have been riding one for a few years now, and I only get better and better on it. I even do better on the chunk and tech than most of my 27.5 friends. Smash!
I should say that I have been riding a 29er not a Yeti. Yeti only in my dreams :)
I noticed that the 4.5 had an oval chainring that the owner said was an upgrade he installed. Do you think that had anything to do with the "better" climbing that you remarked on?
steve yeager This is really worth consideration. For the last two weeks I've been trying on my excellent Canyon Spectral a 28-tooth oval (WolfTooth) and a 32-tooth oval (same) as well as the 30-tooth round (RaceFace) that came with the build. The difference is significant, though not surprising. I think I'd go with the 28 oval for ease of climbing, the 32 oval (effectively 34 on the downstroke and 30 over the top) for power. Not sure there's any advantage in a round chainring except that it has a more familiar feel (at first). Interesting topic, but probably too detailed for Alex or Seth or Jeff to consider for a video. As to Yetis, my older trail bike is a Yeti 575 from 2004: steep fork angle, easy to get bucked over the bars if your form isn't that great....not at all like the geometry of the newer SB series; all the same I loaned it this summer to a nice gal who proceeded to win her enduro class on it. Lovely bikes. Wish I could afford a good build of the 4.5 or 5!
what a cool testing-area.l ike those bike`s and the way u make this chanel.
I struggled between a 27.5 and 29r, I ended up going with the Transition Sentinel 29r, I've been very happy with it. It rolls so nicely over all of the sharp ended rocks and chatter we have here in southern Utah and climbs as well as any other medium/long travel bike I've had, perhaps a bit better due to the steep seat angle. I am actually going to do a cross country race with it next month - I never claimed to be smart.
Alex! Cool vid man. I really liked and related to what you said around 9:05. Ive been on monster bikes like the Trans Sentinel or 2018 Kona Proc 153 and dropped areas I hadnt taken on the trails ever. Then I aquired my Evil Following and had after first initial set up rides, not only had the confdnce to hit these tech sections, but also just had a good feeling on the bike, but was a little more "aware" of my line, but still had gusto to take it, and even beat PRs on these trails at that on a shorter trav bike! It is crazy I dont know 100% of the answer either like you, but I am incredibly stoked on my bike on everything that is thrown at me while on trail. In fact, I have MORE confidence to smash down these trails. I think you also hit the nail on the head is that these bikes have the capability, but you need to be more aware and are actually using better handling skills than a monster truck bike that, like you said in another vid, like your on a couch! lol Awesome vid, this was a great info vid on these 2 bikes, best Ive seen to date!!
Hey I think your “not a comparison but my opinion” was good. I liked the in the moment critique. I’m considering a new purchase and this perspective helps
Love seeing my trails!
The only thing about the 29er is you can or whip or throw it around as much, I have a 29er and that's the thing, it climbs great and it's fast but I like to go all out on every ride I do
New subscriber here! Dude, your positive energy is infectious. You're inspiring me to get back to MTBing after 11 years away from it. What do you think about the Motobecane FS bikes on BikesDirect in the $900-$1,100 range?
Had a 5010 and loved it until some ahole stole it.
Got a Ripley LS and can not believe how much better it roles through chunk.
3rd Video from Alafia in two days!
These Florida trails look so fun.
what a great episode, 29" way to go!!!
Great vid! On a completely random note...next time you're in Kansas you should check out Switchgrass trail (Previously IMBA Epic). It's a little different from what you guys normally ride, but would love to see a vid of you guys out there. Just a thought...keep up the good work!
great comparison. ive got to try that 4.5, i'd never considered it before
For those not familiar with yeti, it would have added more clarity to refer to the bikes by wheel size rather than model. Enjoyed it none the less.
A constructive bit of feedback, I'm missing some reflection on the pretty notable drivetrain differences - How do you think the AB ring vs the standard round one on the 27, impacted the flow, acceleration and climbing experience?
This is THE best non-review bike shootout I've ever watched
Love seeing you on my home trail! Wish I would have seen you out there
Enjoyed this video bud - Keep up the great work! :)
FYI: Just looking at specs at Yeti web site. The 5 frame was 0.22 lbs heavier in medium. Head tube angle is 0.9 slacker. Wheelbase of SB5 0.6" longer
the bigger wheels in the 29er are giving more gryo stabilisation in the air which is why the 27.5 is different feeling and less stabilised
Now you need to ride the SB 5.5 and the 6! I have an older SB75. Love it! It's basically the 5 but with the old switch eccentric link instead of the switch infinity. I have a friend who made a hybrid SB and it rides awesome. He has an SB6 with the 27.5 on the rear and switched the fork and front wheel to 29. That thing rides like nothing else. Great roll over and speed but quick and nibble and so stable!! If he didn't know where I lived I probably would have never returned it after I road it! ;) My next bike will be another Yeti just not sure which one.
Fun video Alex! In your final thoughts, when you were talking about what you'd take to a bike park and through the chunk, I think you'd be surprised. If you like the feel of the 29r on XCish trails, I think you'd like it in the chunk due to the larger circumference/angle of attack, they roll over stuff much easier. I switched to 27.5 though because I personally felt like the 29 was lacking agility, and I wouldn't go back at this point. Great vid!