Porsche 911 Carrera GTS. Why this makes for a better road car than the 992 GT3
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- Porsche have just launched the GTS version of the 992 and after my mixed experience with the latest GT3, I'm keen to find out if the GTS actually makes for a better road car. This video reveals all..
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Harry is one of the few reviewers on TH-cam who can speak about a model's range with the fluency and balance of having driven many of them, and having the status not to be bowled over by anything Porsche. I know when I'm watching this that I'm not looking at someone who needs the next press car to come to them. Long live Harry Metcalfe. Great review.
Spot on, couldnt agree more.
Amen to that.
Fawning over the guy ... why?
@@johnsmith1474 because he's really rather good at this.
@@TuvingtonD Yeah and they all grew up learning and reading his magazine: EVO.
I think the plus with this particular car is that the styling is so restrained. Rock solid design I think. It's avoidance of unnecessary detail really showcases its beautiful purity of form and the enormous equity in its iconic shape.
Liked how you worded that! 👌
@Sam Miale Well, to be fair the 992 GT3 DOES have fake real vents. Just watch Harry's review.
@Sam Miale i am actually having a good laugh at the both of you. It's so clear you are not on my level of knowledge and wisdom and class.
@Sam Miale probably satire... his name is credible commenter
Agreed, but what are Porsche doing with their branding ? I love the script that says ‘Porsche’ or ‘Boxster’ etc across the rear of each car, but newer models are starting to copy the boot lid if a 60s Ford Cortina . Too many names and numbers and sometimes badly sized/l displayed. My little Boxster is discrete by comparison and that is one of the main reason I like it so very much.
Three years ago I went to my Porsche dealership to put a deposit down for a 992 GT3, but changed my mind for a GTS instead and I never regretted my decision. It is such a fantastic car and so easy to live with. I opted for PDK instead of manual and I recommend PDK always. I also have a 2016 Boxster GTS (3.4 Liter) that I ordered with manual gearbox. Having one less gear means an extremely tall gearing across the range which kills the fun. I told myself to never do it again. Great video Mr. Metcalfe!
Best reviewer on TH-cam IMO. Your reviews add such perspective and practicality. Thanks Harry!
Hi Harry, as much as I’d love to think I have a GT3 engine in the back of my 997 GTS, it is unfortunately not the the Mezger unit. The 997 GTS was offered from the 2nd generation 997 and has a regular Carrera S DFI engine (385hp) with the powerkit installed as standard which bumps the power to 408hp. Still a lot of fun with the glorious 6-speed manual gearbox, but not as hardcore as the 997 GT3 (dare I call the 997 GTS comfortable?).
I find the endless versions of the 911 quite confusing - but Harry is just the man to pick out the differences and help make sense of them :D
Yep. But TBH, I find I couldn't care less. Like celebrity gossip. Who cares? Seems I don't, and the philo-911ies can dream of this as they drop off to the shorter gearstick with the New Shape. A huge opening, indeed, Harry. Hoping for a vid on how's the paint drying on the estate fencing... x
I thought the point of so many variants was to give you a price range. They are ALL expensive, a base Carrera can be optioned out to be as expensive as a Turbo. And some of the variants are redundant.
@@MrTimeless101 if you know Porsches, owned some you would know. The different versions are distinct. Also the pricing is relative, most of them you can sell even with a higher price (right now) or very little loss of value.
Actually there are not too many 911 models. Porsche just makes it seem like it for marketing purposes.
There is (in order) the Carrera, Carrera S, GTS, Turbo and GT3. With the standard Carrera being a sporty cruiser and the GT3 being the most track focused.
You can get the Carreras also with 4WD - then the has a "4" in the Name. You also get most models as Coupe, Cabrio or Targa.
However the suspension settings, engine, steering and mandatory options really make a difference on the road. Especially the GTs. They for example have a completely different front axle.
@@herrmann967 Exactly. Used to feel overwhelmed until about two years when I moved to a neighborhood with a Porsche(I actually snobbly pronounce like a German now😂)Center close by. Now have the 930 turbo as one of my dream cars.
Thank you Harry. I was about to put a deposit down on a heavily optioned Carrera S. Because you educated me about the GTS it’s the route I’m going to go.
Your reviews are excellent.
loco I am from Canada and the wait list at the largest Porsche dealer in the country is 4-5 years for a GTS. I had to go with a heavily spec’d 992 4S. You’ll be lucky to get an allocation for a GTS bro.
@@TheShaneglass05 I did get an allocation and turned it down to go for a GT3 when the 992.2 happens.
@@TheShaneglass05 -Update. The GT3 slot never materialized. But got the call yesterday to place the order for another 911 GTS. Going through with it and his time. 🍾🎉
I own a 991.2 GTS in Europe and last week my son visited from Canada and drove it on a mountain road. I can endorse everything that Harry says about the 911 GTS. Awesome. Now I go back to driving it like an ordinary car, which it isn't. Excellent video.
I really enjoyed this video. The GTS is the sweet spot in the range...sounds great! Thanks Harry. 👍
I think the split between the new GT3 and GT3 Touring has allowed the GT3 to become much more track-focussed, to the detriment of its on-road manners.
The GTS seems like an excellent compromise though, and the fact that it's still available with a manual is just gravy.
There is no split between the gt3 and the gt3 touring. the only difference is the lack of spoiler in the touring. With the GT3 being so track focused, I don't know where they go with the gt3RS
Great review as always, glad to have a pro like Harry back up my decision to move from 992 C2S to the 992 GTS!
Slight correction: the 997 GTS didn’t have the GT3 engine, it had the Carrera S PowerKit standard, power went up from 385 to 408 hp.
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I was surprised by that comment on the video and after a quick google I couldn’t find out if it was accurate or not. Come back to here to post about it and perfectly timed, see your response! Thanks for that! Great video and I love the GTS. The more I see them the more I love them. It feels more like a Turbo without the proper “turbo” engine then it does an S on steroids
@Clara Easy tiger, we all love the Harry's uploads but keep it in your trousers, eh? :D
@@saltlake6577 When you criticise others about errors, you should make sure your comments do not include errors. Absolut is a vodka, absolute is the word you needed. Compatible is not the word you need. You need comparable. I await your vitriolic response.
@@sq1rlsqu4d 😂👏👊
What a great sound this car makes.To be able to do that even now speaks volumes on Porsche excellence.The 911 still holds its own among the very best even at almost 60 years and counting.
Great video again. When harry reviews a car, I feel like I have been behind the wheel
I must say, the “quirkiness” being brought back by the manual isn’t surprising. It’s one of the only new manuals available now, especially over 100k. Brilliant as always Harry!
I must say, I don’t agree on brakes. The carbons are so pricey, and for someone that would use it daily, not a journalist special, I would get the steels. That’s someone having fun drifting it around for a few hours, not normal wear.
But it still doesn’t bob on the front end, 997 was the last that did.
Exactly what I thought, it's journalists drifting for the cameras hour after hour with some level of stability control still switched on that has most likely ruined those rear rotors. I don't think most owners would ever have this problem unless they were complete knobheads - and in any case, how many sets of steel rotors could you get for 6000 pounds? A lifetimes worth I'd bet.
A Chris Harris disc grumble? 😂
As an owner of a 992.1 S (manual) would echo comments on the gear box. Really appreciate his commentary. Second owner but would counter that the disparity of used prices between the S and GTS would support pulling the trigger on a well optioned S. At 440hp (conservatively), more than enough to put a smile on your face, and perhaps get arrested.
I've just purchased a GTS and the suspension is crashy and bouncy on most UK roads, your roads must be way nicer!
In my opinion the best reviewer of cars on TH-cam by a very long way. The GTS (RWD) would be my pick of the current 911 range but i would option the PDK gearbox due to an injury. Keep up the good work with terrific content, thanks.
Harry, I could watch you drive this car, over those country roads all day. What a joy. Miles of Smiles.
This is a great looking car, especially in carmine red, & is all the 911 I would ever need. However, the £123, 500 price tag puts it well out of my league, sadly. Thanks for another great review Harry.
Harry thanks once again for an exciting and personal take on the PORSCHE GTS.
As always, a pleasure to watch, listen and learn from someone who has a real knowledge and passion for cars. Keep the good work up 👍
Love your work Harry, you're up there with the best keep up the good work.
Never mind up with the best , he's the one all others are judged by .
Great review Harry and what a beautiful car. I can't believe I have only just found out that you are also a farmer. Another farmer with a passion for cars! Have a good harvest..
Lovely Jubbly, Harry never let's us down with the quality of his videos or the cars he reviews, a big thank you from me.
Great! Look forward to getting my GTS 4 cab in viper green delivered next week. The 992 S never felt as nice as the 991.2 GTS but the 992 adds a lot of subtle changes over anything optionable on the S.
Wow that's great man - enjoy it !!! That's like christmas, counting down the nights :)
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 thanks. certainly is. And Harry’s video has spiked my anticipation.
Harry - please review a 996 40 Jahre. Effectively, the GTS of the 996 range (before the monicker was coined). A classic rare Porsche; awesome on the road for a night-on 20 year old car.
💯 Love my 2019 991.2 4 gts. After a LOT of cars, this is it!
Just discovered your channel. I have to say you are the best I've seen for reviews bar doug demuro. Absolutely brilliant!
I like to see your reviews a lot. my order is done for the GTS, but still not sure about manual gearbox or PDK. As you mentioned, the 7 gear manual must be fantastic, but PDK gives the full acceleration power of this car and on the race track, sport plus is the must have tool for fast lap times. Interior looks better with manual... no boost knob in steering wheel on manual, which is unbelievable to pass car on regular street.
I still have time to decide😀 Greetings from Switzerland.
Fantastic review Harry, I have just ordered a 911 GTS (18month wait time!!!!) but your review confirms my choice as being the right one- many thanks for a brilliant review!!
Another good review, and thank you for Tyrrell's Classic Workshop video's.
Fantastic review. Really really pleased they kept a manual option on the 992, I really hope more people order The GTS in manual. Great comment about the quirkiness factor
Harry I love this video, I think I have watched it 10 times. My dream car. Thanks for doing what you do!!
For the rear wheel steer in the lightweight pack, my guess is the rear wheel steer gives the illusion that the car feels lighter/more nimble than it is
The rear-wheel steering does make the steering more sensitive and quicker but also reduces the turning ratio which is very handy in city driving.
So pleased Harry likes this model. It confirms my thoughts and has helped me decide on my next car 🎉
Harry is my fav car show bar none. Stumbled across his channel during the pandemic shutdown - he was driving himself and his wife down to the S of France in an 815. I want Netflix to back a Ford F250 full of Swiss Francs up to his house in Cambridge and offer him all of it if he makes a tv show for them?
Great video. I purchased a 4.0 GTS whilst waiting for my delayed GT4. Fantastic car. Understated and great when up in the rev range. However, just did not feel special enough. Correct in the 99% of a GT4 comment. The last 1% is the most important part though, how it makes you feel! Keep up the good vids...
Harry is the real deal and born to enlighten viewers about cars like the 911 GTS.
Great video. I think this would be my Porsche if I had the dough. Its really nice to see the manual gearbox. I hope they don't disappear any time soon.
Harry, I finally concluded why I like your channel the most… its the use of English and eloquence. In literary terms, its up there.
Awesome video Harry. Like a good book I couldn’t put it down, I couldn’t stop watching. One of your best in my opinion. Thank you.
Fantastic review ..... very insightful and very comprehensive. Defiantly top of my wish list now. Thank you Harry.
Harry, exceptional content as usual. Care to make a video on your watch collection for your fans who are also watch enthusiasts? I hate frequently pausing your videos to try to figure out what mechanical watch you’re wearing. Thank you! Keep up the amazing content.
I tend to agree; there are so many 911 (992) models along with too many upgrades, that places confusing upon prospective buyers. It saddens me to hear the GT3 isn’t an everyday drive however; the Turbo S appears a better driving and seemingly, performance option. Thanks Harry for your honest appraisal of 4 x 911 (992) models and the benefits of ceramic brakes over standard. Looking forward to more of your high quality videos. Cheers
No interest in the GTS, but I can't miss the opportunity to spend some of my Sunday listening to Harry
Amazing and beautiful machines. Love the Engineering behind. 992 it's flawless!
Harry you are legendary..I love the GT3 but the GTS is more practical and throttle response more satisfying
I'd love to see Harry and Nick Murray have a chat all things Porsche - that would be a fun convo to watch
Just beat my thumbs up clicking record. Today it took me just 15 seconds into the vid. Well done Uncle Harry. Great car and yes I would.
What a clean looking car I wouldn't mind owning this 🔥
Excellent video Harry. That manual big plus. It's long geared - even 1st - 2nd, like the GT3 but more surge from the extra torque. Would you really prefer a n-a version? All Best
Almost my dream spec! 992 C2 GTS 7 speed with the aero kit and carbon roof though. I love turbo motors at 6500ft above sea level, I prefer it over the NA motors here. Glad to hear you liked this spec though, thanks for the review!
Harry is your man and makes this Porsche the real deal.
Harry - how is the interior noise when the car is closed up? You rightly criticized the "standard" car for being 80+ decibels. Lovely review.
I was gonna ask the same
I find it somehow ridiculous how most reviewers want to compare the GTS to the GT3 and slot it in between the Carrera S and GT3.
The GT3 is entirely different concept than the GTS. If anything the GTS is a Carrera S with lots of options on it and a marginal power bump (on paper). In the case of the 911 range the bundled options don’t even come at a discount.
And regarding the one option you can’t get on the Carrera S, being the Centerlock wheels, why? Just why? I don’t see any advantage for a road car
Remember when my friend took me for a ride in his 2010 GTS - some of the hand signals from pedestrians definitely weren't in the Highway Code.
Another terrific test Harry, oh and the car is fantastic as well
Much better, Harry - much, much better. So many of your episodes over the last year have been plagued with crook editing, lighting, dialogue, bumbling off topic, etc, etc. This one - back in form. 🙂
Always an honest review, thank you Harry!
You make driving fast seems like a wee trip to the shop,, brilliant location for the test shows up the real world review of the porsche and practical activities that can be done with such a car 👍👍👍☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland
Mr. Metcalfe that red Porsche looks amazing zipping around the corners and you look pretty good navigating imho. Perhaps you should pick one up?
Great video as usual... I prefer the pdk...over the manuals in the porsche...they are amazing...the pdks.
What a masterpiece of a video. You always learn a lot from Harry. Awesome. Car too, btw.
Most Porsche track guys I race with opt for steel brakes over the carbon ceramics. If you are doing serious track work, steelies are the way to go.
Great review...480 HP...that's what my first 911 was, a 2007 911 Turbo (997.1), which was obviously much lighter than the 992.2. i sure wish I would have kept that one...the 997 Turbo 6 speed is kind of a the perfect car.
I have owned a lot of 911 in different forms over the years. For my money and being the best performance all-rounder with the 991.2/992 is the 911 Carrera S and GTS in rwd form. The C4S front end feels heavier and the additional grip isn’t necessary with the balance of the modern 911. Put rear wheel steering in the mix and the C2S/GTS is unbelievable to the point even on the track at upper limits tends to defy physics. Even the best drivers will never reach its limits. You can spec either cars so many ways there really isn’t gonna be much of a difference in price point. Go all out in the options and you won’t be disappointed.
Oh my, that pull at 11:10 mark beautiful!
Great content as ever, would like to see what you make of the GT3 touring. Other reviewers have said that just the tyre change on that makes all the difference on the road.
They are the same, Sans wing
@@chadbarbaro And tyres. A few of the reviews I’ve seen have said the tyre factor on it’s own significantly changes it’s road manners in terms of tram-lining and harshness.
Brilliant. Crossed of the turbo for this as my dream/lottery car.
Firstly with everything else going on in the world, it was lovely to spend 20 mins in a 911 with you. For me, (as a 991.1 C4S owner) I don't like Alcantara, red stitching, sports crono, black wheels, and look at centre lock wheels are an inconvenience so I'd stick with the S model and save some cash.
I have a 991.1 GTS with leather wheel and trim. I love the look of the black centre lock wheels (5 bolt was $0 option)against GT Silver paint. GTS also revs higher and CLs have lower unsprung weight. Exhaust sounds better too.
Hi Harry, you didn't mention road noise in the GTS, can I deduce that it's a quieter car somehow? Love your videos by the way including the farming ones. Please keep em coming. Pete
Another great review mate. You should purchase one, it looks good on you. Also looking forward to the next video about the work on the Lambo. Fan from Sydney, Australia.
I have only been driving in the UK once and I have to say that the most roads are pretty dangarous ! So not many people can drive those roads like Harry is !
The Uk has the safest roads in Europe , if not the whole world, (google it). Maybe you can't drive very well.
@@Brookspirit actually it’s Norway closely followed by Switzerland
The roads are full of loons that drive much more recklessly than Harry.
@@Brookspirit I had a chance to drive in Switzerland,Austria,Slovenia, Croatia, France, Spain, Greek Islands, Canary Islands, South Africa, Florida and Hawaii !!!!
@@MeTube3 I am pretty sure about that !
Great review Harry. And I know what you say about the GTS badge it really does make a difference. My wife bought a new GTS that benfitted from the deletion of the Turbo model in the Macan and it is a screamer at 434bhp I believe.It really does love to go as fast as you can in it. I got a new panamera 4 e hybrid and I am being honest a bit jealous of the GTS badge
Harry is a real car guy! Real reviews, not just talk.
Great video as always, thanks Harry. I’ve also heard of people deleting the 10mm lower sports PASM in favour of “normal” PASM which probably makes the GTS even more bearable on our wonderful British roads…!
Just get the S then .
you lose the tube suspension and helper springs if you delete sport pass on GTS
I do wonder how bad is the road noise in GTS, been a complaint of Harry's in the prev vid. However if its using the Turbo chassis setup, perhaps its better?
@@atom999 I was wondering the same thing. I don't know why he didn't comment on it, as much as he has complained about 911 interior noise in the past.
Can you cancel the sports pasm on the 911 GTS ?
Great review Harry as usual beautiful car!
I hope the GTS is more exciting than the base 992 I test drove. Compared to my AMG GTC, the 992 was a Total Bore. I couldn’t wait to return the 992.
Porsche Optional extras,
Wipers.
Lights.
Seats.
Windows.
Paint.
Engine.
Wheels. 😩
Pretty much! 🤣
I know you are trying to be funny, but a base 911 with no options is an excellent car. I can't think of one thing I would add if I was ordering a new 992 today. Maybe a glass sunroof. $2,000. Maybe.
You forgot floormats….I’m not joking.
I own a 992.1 911 Carrera T with very few options (to the horror of the sales person) and it is a beautiful car that performs exceptionally well. All the standard bits are of very high quality and work.
I learn a little something new on each of your videos!
Harry, lovely review as always. Would love to see you take a look at the GT3 touring to see where it compares between the GTS and GT3. Cheers!
The Touring drives no differently than the winged GT3. It’s the same exact car less the aero differences.
It’s exactly the same car as the GT3 but with a slightly different body.
Thanks Harry. Another great video.
Great review as always Harry although it has made me feel I shouldn’t have just bought my 997.2 C2S PDK. Although at the same time it was the best 911 I could afford. I’d love a manual. I would like you to do some plus points for the PDK for all us poor saps.
Great videos Harry but what about showing us some mechanicals by putting cars on a ramp. It’ll add a new dimension for us petrol heads, great videos
Love your Porsche content, Harry. Agree GTS is pick of the range. Be good to see a vid on your recent Porsche purchase 👍
and what about interior noise and tire noise??? it was a big preoccupation with the 992 base and the 992 S....
I was interested in this observation as well...
Same, would love to know that as well
Yes the 992 GT3 is very track focused; that's why they also make the GT3 Touring. It'll be cool to see you compare the GTS and the Touring! :D
Agree wholeheartedly, although it seems the result will be the same as here
The GT3 Touring is more discretely track-focussed 😅. More or less just the wing missing.
Truly excellent in-depth review, All I need now is the money to buy and run it 👍🏻🏴
And there I was thinking the 997 GTS was fitted with the non Mezger 3.8L with the X51 power option giving 408bhp. It may be an interesting conversation next time you meet Mr Preuniunger?😀
Porsche always, FTW. Nicely done sir. It's a gem.
Great car but then so is the ‘S’ which is properly fast now - you wouldn’t notice much difference between the two with less than 10% between them in power and torque. There is still quite a big price difference despite Harry playing that down so you can still make a case for the ‘S’ being the sweet spot in the range. Of course, some think the base model is that…
Good luck trying to get one of these for list.
Great review. I'm deciding between a GTS4 and a C4S!
Love the gold wheels with the red body.
Another thrilling video, thanks Harry.
Great review, Hank…love that liberty print shirt, as well. The GTS variants of all Porsches are the sweet spot for me between performance and livability. I just love my wife’s Cayenne GTS and have ordered a Taycan GTS sport-turismo as my new daily. Thankfully it wasn’t on that cargo ship. 🙏
Great Vid, Harry! 👍🏻 GTS is always the sweet-spot for a road-use car. 😉
Great review! I wish the sunroof was closed though, thus reducing the background noise.
Harry has convinced me that Porsche make incredible cars and one day Lotto win permitting a Porsche will sit nicely in my driveway.