Stellantis is nuts. $52k for the top of this line trim. This is basically the same class as a Mazda CX-5 or CX-50 which top out at $40k-43k for the top of the line models. Absolutely insane lmao
@@NeekogoI don’t need that much space, and I’m also not a fan of the styling on the 70 or 90. If they had more aggressive styling cues like the 5 or 50 I’d consider it.
@@bv5515 i agree. Im actually looking at the CX-50 as my next vehicle. My guess is once the Toyota Crown Signia comes out a hybrid CX-50 will then become available. But I took the CX-90 PHEV for price/feature comparison purposes only because that was immediately available
I’m sorry, how much?? Yeah, I’ll take the Crosstrek Wilderness, save 20k, and get to far more places off road. Not to mention that they’ll both be the same resale value in 5 years.
To be fair, this isn't an offroad oriented vehicle, nor does it compete with the Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is a fuel economic subcompact that makes around 175ftlbs of torque at just above middle of the powerband. The Hornet in GT trim makes around 300ftlbs of torque or in hybrid 385ftlbs of torque. So its like saying a Subaru Legacy is competition for a Dodge Charger Scat Pack.
Every video Ryan does lately with these small suvs makes me more and more secure in the decision I went with a CTW. Also driving the CTW helps that too lmao, awesome little car.
For sure, and our family went the same route and got a Outback Wilderness, love the 2.4T very effortless and quiet. This I think is more like a Camaro SUV, I don't think it will sell well. @@rickm8456
I rented a mid size car for my California trip and was given a 2024 Hornet R/T for the week. I didn’t even know what it was other than an SUV as I walked up to it. Saw the Hornet logo on back along with R/T badge and I knew this was going to be a fun week. Drove 40 miles to my Hotel through the mountains on winding roads, wow!!! The suspension was awesome in Hybrid and Sport modes and I thought I was driving a V8. Acceleration was incredible and as you know with California drivers, that was a nice asset to have. When I got to Hotel, I was surprised to find out the power plant was a 1.3 liter turbo, crazy!!! I drove the car hard having fun and was surprised after calculating mpg that I averaged 31, mind blowing!!! Anyway, I enjoyed the car, told my friends about it and look forward to a long term review since it’s a new model.
It has as much power a the Pentastar V6 and as much torque as the 5.7 HEMI V8. It goes 0-60 in about 5.2 seconds. It's hardly slow and it's incredibly fun to drive. You won't ever know because you'd rather just sit on your laptop or phone and make clueless comments.
@@ducktails1695 I've got jeep renegade with same engine, it has nothing similar with hemi, especially torque. Everything you said is only on a paper. In real life scenarios this engine sucks, especially on pretty big and heavy vehicles.
@@lexzcq Your Jeep Renegade also isn't a plug-in hybrid and has no where near the power and torque of the powertrain thats in the Hornet R/T. A complete apples to oranges comparison. The Hornet R/T has 288HP and 383 ft/lbs of torque.
The biggest competitor to the Hornet R/T will be the Hornet GT. Very similar performance with a price tag that is thousands cheaper. The only hangup would be the lower fuel economy of the GT, but to anyone shopping for a Dodge it won't matter that much.
Remember the cheapest feasible Hornet GT is with the blacktop package. Without it, it is COMICALLY ugly. The silver wheels don't just look bad, they looks horrendous as they are really recessed.
Low profile tires with no spare is a recipe for disaster, I’m speaking from experience. Hit a small pothole in my Honda Type R and the sidewall got cut, yep the fix a flat kit was useless , waited for a 2 hour tow at midnight, I would never by a car/truck without a spare tire, even a space saver would be ok, just my .02
What? Have you not been paying attention to the new vehicles at all. Because most of them run runflat tires and give you a tire air kit to get you to a repair shop.
@@ducktails1695 These people aren't real buyers, just complainers. Real buyers would've done their research. Most of these people have no clue of what they're talking about!😂
@@mike_johnson87 Yes I know...these people are the same people that bitch about the lack of Hellcats from Dodge now. They never had any intention on buying one in the first place and just wanna try and fit in with the negative narrative. I'm just tired of people complaining about this car stating what they think are facts that aren't even remotely true. They've never driven one, never actually look at anything for specs on it, etc. They don't care to drive one nor are they even remotely interested in buying one or anything from its competitors.
@@hellotherefriend547 they have more supply on hand than any other car maker right now over 100 days. They aren’t selling like you think they are just look at the numbers.
Glad to get your insight into this. I did not think it would be exciting or fantastic or even worth the money TBH. I can see depreciation on this dropping like a stone. And I can see popularity die off quickly. And thus, I totally agree with your opinion on this. Although, I would not buy it or lease it. It might be fun for a rental. But rentals don't do top of the line trims. So, even less appealing. lol.
Drove the non wagon version of which you speak. This car while new, probably fits with the popularity of that car back in the day. And quality would match. lol.
4:39 good old dodge build quality. Nice,solid and wobbly drivers seat. TFL Trucks reviewed this car (might not be the exact trim) and when they put it on the slip plates to test its awd, the awd system stopped awd-ing. It didn't even some-wheel drive, in fact it didn't drive at all after that, lol.
my 2021 Durango RT was $58K, but I got $3500 cash back. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know it is an old platform..I do NOT CARE!! It is a fantastic vehicle, so glad I got it before discontinued. Cheers!
There is a better way to "launch" the R/T. In "Sport" mode with traction control turned off, depress the brake and bring the rpms up to 2000. When I released the brake, I performed a 0-60 in 5.3 seconds according to the #FastR app.
Don't bother. I have one gas, not a hybrid. Massive MASSIVE electrical issues. 3rd time in the shop, the last time was in for 63 days, and there was no fix. Went back Saturday. Examples; in snow and rain collision detection disables, in snow, it applies brakes for no reason (very scary), check engine light, when turning right lots of light illuminate, radio doesn't work at times, start stop disables, and if the sun shines to bright it disables the collision system. Yes, it's fun to drive, but Stillantis will do nothing to help. I've asked for a buyback because it is unsafe.
Had one as a loaner this exact spec actually. Overall I really really enjoyed and honestly would consider one if shopping in this segment. But the price and a couple electric gremlins make it a hard sell. The power train is amazing and love the way they do hybrid tech here. The screen was to busy and cluttered looking.
$52k you say? Uff... I will say it looks neat. I see this as a fun 15 year old used car for the risk taking high school kid who thinks they can wrench just good enough to keep it running, but not well enough to know better...
@@minnybiker4505@26 k it's still overpriced. Seems like a much less desirable caliber srt4 for so, so much more. When was the last time you witnessed a running srt4 caliber? It's been several for me. Always appreciated them just never considered owning it.
At this point you're not looking for a brand new vehicle. 26k and under are use car prices. Or base model no add-on prices. Maybe look into a bike or something!🤔 JS!
I'd avoid PHEV altogether. Per consumer reports 330K vehicle survey, hybrids were the most reliable, then ICE, then EVs, then last place were PHEVs with 176% more problems than ICE. No thank you! If you are going Hornet, just get the GT with the blacktop package and don't load it up too expensive with options, then it makes more sense.
Or any other used or maybe even new dodges like bro honestly yes im hating on it but bro I have my reasons I wish dodge would keep making their regular cars. Keep the charger nd challenger v8s alive
I have a hard time faulting a PHEV that does not stay in EV only when that mode is selected. My reasoning is that there is going to be a time when I have it in EV mode, and pull out in front of a truck with less room than expected and my reaction will be to floor it. In that moment I'd really like to have the 0-60 in about 6 seconds the vehicle is capable of rather than the 14 seconds the mode I'm in allows for.
Im so glad I grew up in the age of V-8's, V-10's and V-12's and everyone wasnt worried about BS. We're now down to over-priced, under-powered 4 cylinders with or without turbo(s), hybrids and EV's. What a drag. I guess at some point I'll only buy used if I need a vehicle.
Nobody is a stretch. Plus the hate has been real, on top of bad promotion. I think it has a shot of being pretty decent once the price gouging and inflation dies down.
We will just have to see what reliability is like. It's worst negative is cargo space followed by sticker price. Beyond those, it seems like a fun car to drive and puts most others back on the trailer in terms of looks. I hope it sells, off topic but the Fiat 124 spider was a way nicer looking car than the last Miata version. Hope Stellantous gets their act together...they have the looks right.
This is a nice looking car, but let's be real...for that price, it isn't an Alfa Romeo. Price should be way less. Dodge Brothers aren't rolling over, but doing backflips in their graves at what Stellantis is doing to their name and brand.
You went past the detent in the throttle pedal. It doesn't lock out the gas engine in case you need it in an emergency. I'm sure this is the 50th comment about this specifically
It sounds so much like a diesel from the outside it had me second guessing. Shoutout VW for killing brand trust for diesel cars in North America but man it’d be nice to see some diesel hybrids here.
A diesel hybrid would put several vehicles into the 60mpg+ economy status, can't have that here in the US LOL. A diesel hybrid would be great, but if a Dodge Hornet POS is $52k, I'd hate to see what an automaker would charge for a small car with a diesel/hybrid powerplant...probably $60-80k.
Great video. One thing I would like to point out is that the R/T actually has a ground clearance of around 6 inches in comparison to the 8 inches the GT has which I believe is because of the battery pack. Any chance of getting a review done on the GT spec in the near future? The R/T is neat but Dodge is asking serious money for this thing IMO. The GT seems like the more practical option and in real world testing seems to be not that much slower than the R/T version.
@@drivingsports sounds crazy but are yall able to test out spacing in the car when it comes to strollers and car seat. No one really shows that part of car testing as I belive it's a make or break when looking for a economical suv
No real world where this is purchased over a Tucson or Santa Fe plug in. It beats the dodge in size, efficiency, and has an actual AWD system all at a much lower price
52k for a freaking rebadged alfa is absolutely insane. Especially cuz itll spend most of its life in the shops. There are so many better options for much less and more reliable
I love Dodge. They have a big long history of building absolute trash, so they turn to Italians for help. I couldn't think of a worse group of people to come together to design and engineer a car apart from if the French somehow joined in
Not really interested in Dodges, watched it just to see if Mr Legs-torso-proportional was gonna climb into the cargo hole. And no, it ain't Alfa Romeo 😂
The base GT with Blacktop package is almost 20k cheaper and you don't have to deal with the plug in electric crap. Still has 268 HP and tons of standard perks like heated seats and steering wheel. The non hybrid is actually faster 0-60 than the PHEV version.
People are saying they wouldnt buy this for the price, im genuinely curious what else you would buy in this price point. Also are we not buying it because of what it is on paper or because its a "Dodge". Just curious on peoples perspective
For a couple thousand more, I can get an entry level Land Cruiser. I can get a well appointed WRX for less than 40k. Hell, a rav4 prime is only $49k. Why would I ever buy this thing when I can get the literal segment leader for less?
Have you sat in one of these? It's fairly claustrophobic... With a 1.3 liter 4 cylinder and Alpha Romeo reliability on offer, there are countless other vehicles I'd own before this at any price, let alone at $52k.
Coming to you soon outside the front of a local Walmart. With garbage bag duct taped on rear side glass for patina. I hope those seats are good for 500lb humans.
The only reason why it completed that is because of the TFL car video where they did it and it tripped the wheel speed sensor and Dodge made a software update to fix the problem
Overpriced, but cool in a way. The cargo space and the fact that the seats dont fold anywhere close to flat is a big negative. Obviously, quality, reliability and resale value are also question marks.
Glen mills Toyota. I decided on an outback wilderness instead (don’t ask me why, the only reason is that we already have a 2020 non prime RAV hybrid and didn’t want two) but I had a firm quote, cash no trade
I’m not shooting the reviewer here, but $52k for this rebadged hot turd. That’s bonkers. Might as well buy a used 2022 Lexus GX 460 premium or even luxury for $45k which will hold its value.
Overpriced smal SUV. But overall it's good nice looking vehicle for daily driving. As usuall props to You for taking it off road. Great review. Greetings
Why y’all keep comparing this to the Dodge Charger? This is a CUV, this is replacing the Dodge Journey, the Dodge Journey replaced the Dodge Nitro, and this is not an off-road vehicle, if you want off-road capability go to Jeep, buy the Jeep Compass Trailhawk, similar class, different capabilities.
I'm going to feel bad for anyone I see actually paying for and owning one of these. You are right...the 10k cheaper RAV4 is way too expensive for a compact crossover...go home Dodge, you're drunk. On a related side note, there are going to be (and already are) a lot of people with 15 year mortgages on shi**y cars that they will only be able to trade in at dealerships for ridiculous losses.
Why would you compare the trunk size to the CRV when the hornet is more comparable to the HRV in size. It’s like the exact same size as the HRV you only pay more for a Hornet because it’s a way better car interior, powertrain and tech. Yeah yeah the HRV is a Honda it’s going to last a lifetime so people say but if you do your car right it will do you right. All companies have issues. Once Dodge get its footing they will be alright within the last week I’ve seen 3 Hornets and not the same ones. So people are starting to buy them. They actually look really good in person I’m on the market and I’m considering it. The only reason I won’t pull the trigger is because I want something bigger in size( I.e. Grand Cherokee, GLE) on the other hand I like the passport But they’re so boring interior and tech wise… idk idk I even like the Stelio!
I have a gen 2 hrv, and the interior is bigger than this thing. The gen 3 even larger than the gen 2 hrv, just to give you perspective. For a sub-compact at $52k, it better be the off-road model, all the skid plates, and AT rubbers.
@@drivingsports You don't compare vehicles based on price alone. That's like saying we can call a Ram 1500 a sports car because it costs the same as a Corvette. The Hornet is a subcompact crossover. At the absolute very least, you should mention in your video that the cars you're comparing it to are not at all in the same class but that you're comparing based solely on your opinion that people will cross shop them based on price. You make it sound like this is in the same class as the compacts when it's not. You can't compare cargo capacity to a vehicle of an entirely different class just because they're similarly priced.
A brand new Dodge Caliber for only $52,305? That’s a big bucket of money for an Italian fiat 500 xl based econo box! It’s slow and really cramped for space inside. Off road capability? Not really. Not with only about 3 inches of total suspension articulation. You can’t run over a 2x4 without lifting a wheel off the ground! No wonder these things are stuck on dealer lots like they’re parked in well hardened epoxy! If this was parked on a lot next to an old AMC Eagle (based on the old AMC Hornet) 4x4, I would opt for the old Eagle. It’s got more room in it, it’s probably more comfortable, real off roading capability, with ground clearance and suspension articulation and travel plus it’s probably almost as fast in a straight line. And it’s got enough room to actually sleep in the back.
lol almost 53k for this rig? I was thinking before you said the price of around 40k at the most. I’m sure 10’s of these will be blowing off showroom floors over the course of a year. We have a 2021 Jeep 4XE and you cannot floor it without the gas engine kicking in. The E-save is a joke as it still uses electric although very slowly. Currently FCA has says don’t park our car inside and don’t charge the battery as it may catch on fire. Of course the said they didn’t have a fix and no compensation. MY LAST FCA product ever.
Oh my god, then he goes on about it again later. It's NOT a small crossover, it's a SUBCOMPACT crossover. It's supposed to be small. It's actually on the large side of its class. You're just comparing it to the wrong class.
@@drivingsports Yes, yes it does, and I never said it didn't. But you can't compare something like leg room or CARGO space with a vehicle of a completely different class. Is the vehicle way overpriced? Yes. Is it smaller than its rivals? Not really. You just sound biased when you make it sound EVEN WORSE than it already is by making false equivalencies with vehicles it's not competing with.
@@RRr-yl8zr You can compare it with more expensive vehicles but you can't make claims like "it's smaller than such and such vehicle" when that other vehicle is in a different class. Are y'all really this dense or just hate Dodge so much that you'll say the stupidest shit for no reason?
This is obv a majority Stellantis idea. It’s an alright vehicle IMO but linking it to the Alfa version gave Stellantis the cojones to charge this much, also IMO. Def not the correct vehicle to put a premium price tag on. Like if the they charged 45k for a neon back in the 90’s.
The torque vectoring is straight out lie, they should call it for what it is, brake vectoring, but Ford can't use theirs for cornering like Honda does, ivtm4/shawd has another accelerating unit to make rear wheels spin almost 6% faster to make it happen
I own a Fiat, been 11 years (142k miles) and reliability has been great. The new Toyota Tundra has major engine problems. But everyone love there narrow minded view that Italian cars are bad.
I used to be a Chrysler fanboy… back when the 426 Hemi, 6 Pack 340 and 440s ruled the earth. Owned a 340 68 Barracuda Formula S, a 79 300, more K cars than I care to admit, a 03 TJ Rubicon and an 06 Unlimited TJ Rubicon. Though about a Hemi Challenger or Ram or even 4XE Jeep. That said, I think Chrysler under Stellantis has lost its ever loving mind! This is what happens when a European company tries to bring European sensibility to a tire roasting, octane fueled American muscle car brand… A $52,000 + want a Bee er Hornet. I am now on my 4th Subaru…. Would I trade my Outback Wilderness for that … not on your life! And that is the problem and probably the death nell or nail for Chrysler… the only interesting and attractively priced vehicle to draw people to the brand enough to put up with the quality have been deemed obsolete and replace with rebranded Euros that are not as good as their counterparts. Your opinion and mileage may vary.
Stellantis is nuts. $52k for the top of this line trim. This is basically the same class as a Mazda CX-5 or CX-50 which top out at $40k-43k for the top of the line models. Absolutely insane lmao
The cx50 is, in my opinion, a way better looking vehicle as well. Much more masculine looking than this abomination
@@brycea0225Agreed
For a few thousand more go with a CX-90 PHEV Premium. At least itd have more room and cargo
@@NeekogoI don’t need that much space, and I’m also not a fan of the styling on the 70 or 90. If they had more aggressive styling cues like the 5 or 50 I’d consider it.
@@bv5515 i agree. Im actually looking at the CX-50 as my next vehicle. My guess is once the Toyota Crown Signia comes out a hybrid CX-50 will then become available. But I took the CX-90 PHEV for price/feature comparison purposes only because that was immediately available
I’m sorry, how much?? Yeah, I’ll take the Crosstrek Wilderness, save 20k, and get to far more places off road. Not to mention that they’ll both be the same resale value in 5 years.
To be fair, this isn't an offroad oriented vehicle, nor does it compete with the Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is a fuel economic subcompact that makes around 175ftlbs of torque at just above middle of the powerband. The Hornet in GT trim makes around 300ftlbs of torque or in hybrid 385ftlbs of torque. So its like saying a Subaru Legacy is competition for a Dodge Charger Scat Pack.
Every video Ryan does lately with these small suvs makes me more and more secure in the decision I went with a CTW. Also driving the CTW helps that too lmao, awesome little car.
@@BoopSnoot yeah makes sense. Perhaps not a fair comparison. But if i’m focusing on value, reliability, and resale I’m taking the Subaru.
For sure, and our family went the same route and got a Outback Wilderness, love the 2.4T very effortless and quiet. This I think is more like a Camaro SUV, I don't think it will sell well. @@rickm8456
@@briAction awesome. I’m jealous. I definitely want a CTW.
i spit out my coffee through my nose when you said 52 damn dollars for a small dodge suv.
are you kidding me!?
what world are you living in??????
Bidenomics
Stellantis (Chrysler) on drugs 😂
For 52, the Honda Passport Black Edition is a waaaay better buy
Who is buying this car?
@@davidwelty9763 apparently nobody. Even the Alfa Romeo version (Tonale) isn't selling
I rented a mid size car for my California trip and was given a 2024 Hornet R/T for the week. I didn’t even know what it was other than an SUV as I walked up to it. Saw the Hornet logo on back along with R/T badge and I knew this was going to be a fun week. Drove 40 miles to my Hotel through the mountains on winding roads, wow!!! The suspension was awesome in Hybrid and Sport modes and I thought I was driving a V8. Acceleration was incredible and as you know with California drivers, that was a nice asset to have. When I got to Hotel, I was surprised to find out the power plant was a 1.3 liter turbo, crazy!!! I drove the car hard having fun and was surprised after calculating mpg that I averaged 31, mind blowing!!! Anyway, I enjoyed the car, told my friends about it and look forward to a long term review since it’s a new model.
Wow, pretty good endorsement. Thanks for sharing.👍🏿💯
Robot comment.
Credit where credit is due, the moonroof delete is an option every manufacturer should offer
Or just not have a sunroof/moonroof to begin with.
Its divisive. People tend to love or hate them, so its good to always make it optional stand-alone instead of in packages. @@wildbill23c
@@wildbill23c also this. Roof windows are dumb as fuck. I'd rather have the head room/structural integrity.
@@RRr-yl8zr Honda laughs at your nonsensical request
WOW, those rattling doors when new, can you imagine how much worse it’s going to get?
52k $ for 1.3 L Dodge? Sure, I've been waiting for it whole my life.
Lol, 5.5 0-60.
It has as much power a the Pentastar V6 and as much torque as the 5.7 HEMI V8. It goes 0-60 in about 5.2 seconds. It's hardly slow and it's incredibly fun to drive. You won't ever know because you'd rather just sit on your laptop or phone and make clueless comments.
@@ducktails1695 I've got jeep renegade with same engine, it has nothing similar with hemi, especially torque. Everything you said is only on a paper. In real life scenarios this engine sucks, especially on pretty big and heavy vehicles.
@@lexzcq Your Jeep Renegade also isn't a plug-in hybrid and has no where near the power and torque of the powertrain thats in the Hornet R/T. A complete apples to oranges comparison. The Hornet R/T has 288HP and 383 ft/lbs of torque.
Ducktails is correct.
That price is crazy.
The biggest competitor to the Hornet R/T will be the Hornet GT. Very similar performance with a price tag that is thousands cheaper. The only hangup would be the lower fuel economy of the GT, but to anyone shopping for a Dodge it won't matter that much.
Remember the cheapest feasible Hornet GT is with the blacktop package. Without it, it is COMICALLY ugly. The silver wheels don't just look bad, they looks horrendous as they are really recessed.
Low profile tires with no spare is a recipe for disaster, I’m speaking from experience. Hit a small pothole in my Honda Type R and the sidewall got cut, yep the fix a flat kit was useless , waited for a 2 hour tow at midnight, I would never by a car/truck without a spare tire, even a space saver would be ok, just my .02
What? Have you not been paying attention to the new vehicles at all. Because most of them run runflat tires and give you a tire air kit to get you to a repair shop.
52K? No way Jose
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Yeah they're not all $52,000...idk why people get stuck on that price. There's also up to a $7,000 EV credit if you lease it.
@@ducktails1695plus dealers give a HUGE discount because nobody wants to pay this much 😂
@@ducktails1695 These people aren't real buyers, just complainers. Real buyers would've done their research. Most of these people have no clue of what they're talking about!😂
@@mike_johnson87 Yes I know...these people are the same people that bitch about the lack of Hellcats from Dodge now. They never had any intention on buying one in the first place and just wanna try and fit in with the negative narrative.
I'm just tired of people complaining about this car stating what they think are facts that aren't even remotely true. They've never driven one, never actually look at anything for specs on it, etc. They don't care to drive one nor are they even remotely interested in buying one or anything from its competitors.
I consider myself a car guy ! Honest been out for a while now. So popular I have never seen one on the road !
I've got you beat. I've seen ONE. Ha!
@@memonk11 😂
So it just came out last summer, it is still relatively young on that note!🤷🏿♂️🤣IJS!
I Didn't see any until I spotted One yesterday. (9/27/2024).
I probably will not be seeing any more. Ever.
Ehh I'd get a BMW or Genesis... or a Juguar e Pace or Porsche Macan Mini, Countryman, VW T roc. Great video of course of course!!
The questions is when will Stellantis sell off Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep??? Such a joke of a vehicle.
Why would Stellantis ever sell off Jeep, it actually sells. Chrysler and Dodge I see what you mean
@@hellotherefriend547 they have more supply on hand than any other car maker right now over 100 days. They aren’t selling like you think they are just look at the numbers.
Glad to get your insight into this. I did not think it would be exciting or fantastic or even worth the money TBH. I can see depreciation on this dropping like a stone. And I can see popularity die off quickly. And thus, I totally agree with your opinion on this. Although, I would not buy it or lease it. It might be fun for a rental. But rentals don't do top of the line trims. So, even less appealing. lol.
53K $......DODGE HAS LOST THEIR HEMI LOVIN MIND 🤯
Ryan, When I think of a 'Hornet' I think of the compact AMC of the 1970s. In particular, the Hornet Sportabout wagon comes to mind. 🤩
Drove the non wagon version of which you speak. This car while new, probably fits with the popularity of that car back in the day. And quality would match. lol.
Slim down the A pillars, lower the dash cowl, improve the visibility and drop the price 10 grand and this car would be perfect for me!
If they used electronics from a Japanese automaker I would trust dodge or Jeep but not right now. No way
4:39 good old dodge build quality. Nice,solid and wobbly drivers seat. TFL Trucks reviewed this car (might not be the exact trim) and when they put it on the slip plates to test its awd, the awd system stopped awd-ing. It didn't even some-wheel drive, in fact it didn't drive at all after that, lol.
my 2021 Durango RT was $58K, but I got $3500 cash back. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know it is an old platform..I do NOT CARE!! It is a fantastic vehicle, so glad I got it before discontinued. Cheers!
Durangos kick ass. We'd do more videos with them if only Dodge put them in the press fleet.
There is a better way to "launch" the R/T. In "Sport" mode with traction control turned off, depress the brake and bring the rpms up to 2000. When I released the brake, I performed a 0-60 in 5.3 seconds according to the #FastR app.
Don't bother. I have one gas, not a hybrid. Massive MASSIVE electrical issues. 3rd time in the shop, the last time was in for 63 days, and there was no fix. Went back Saturday. Examples; in snow and rain collision detection disables, in snow, it applies brakes for no reason (very scary), check engine light, when turning right lots of light illuminate, radio doesn't work at times, start stop disables, and if the sun shines to bright it disables the collision system. Yes, it's fun to drive, but Stillantis will do nothing to help. I've asked for a buyback because it is unsafe.
Might be a good option for someone when they are less than 20K used in a couple of years...
Is there a mode to keep the battery charged using the ICE?
Yeah it’s got a designated charge mode called e-Save
Skipping this would be dodging the bullet
Buying one would be worse than being stung by hornets.
Had one as a loaner this exact spec actually. Overall I really really enjoyed and honestly would consider one if shopping in this segment. But the price and a couple electric gremlins make it a hard sell. The power train is amazing and love the way they do hybrid tech here. The screen was to busy and cluttered looking.
$52k you say? Uff...
I will say it looks neat.
I see this as a fun 15 year old used car for the risk taking high school kid who thinks they can wrench just good enough to keep it running, but not well enough to know better...
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@@chiron03 I just searched my area for least expensive options, new... A $32k base model is being discounted to $26k and still not selling.
@@minnybiker4505@26 k it's still overpriced. Seems like a much less desirable caliber srt4 for so, so much more. When was the last time you witnessed a running srt4 caliber? It's been several for me. Always appreciated them just never considered owning it.
At this point you're not looking for a brand new vehicle. 26k and under are use car prices. Or base model no add-on prices. Maybe look into a bike or something!🤔 JS!
for similar price you can literally get a Mercedes AMG GLB. Not many people even seem to worried about the tax credit lol.
I'd avoid PHEV altogether. Per consumer reports 330K vehicle survey, hybrids were the most reliable, then ICE, then EVs, then last place were PHEVs with 176% more problems than ICE. No thank you! If you are going Hornet, just get the GT with the blacktop package and don't load it up too expensive with options, then it makes more sense.
Or any other used or maybe even new dodges like bro honestly yes im hating on it but bro I have my reasons I wish dodge would keep making their regular cars. Keep the charger nd challenger v8s alive
GLB is the perfect form factor and wonderful interior 🥰
I have a hard time faulting a PHEV that does not stay in EV only when that mode is selected. My reasoning is that there is going to be a time when I have it in EV mode, and pull out in front of a truck with less room than expected and my reaction will be to floor it. In that moment I'd really like to have the 0-60 in about 6 seconds the vehicle is capable of rather than the 14 seconds the mode I'm in allows for.
Exactly. Common sense.
It does that. Depending on how you press the accelerator.
Im so glad I grew up in the age of V-8's, V-10's and V-12's and everyone wasnt worried about BS. We're now down to over-priced, under-powered 4 cylinders with or without turbo(s), hybrids and EV's. What a drag. I guess at some point I'll only buy used if I need a vehicle.
You can choose not to live in this world.😊
@@TJDST4just a spreader of joy you are!
It's $15K too expensive.
That’s why dealers give up to a 16.000$ discount off MSRP. Because nobody is buying them.
Nobody is a stretch. Plus the hate has been real, on top of bad promotion. I think it has a shot of being pretty decent once the price gouging and inflation dies down.
@@mike_johnson87 I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen ✌️
@@MrChristopherMolloy I wouldn't recommend it.
"Whos going to sleep in the back of a Dodge?" Me when I was a teenager feels attacked 😅
Ryan we need a review of the new 2024 Kia Seltos. They got rid of the DCT that overheated in the last review.
I’m here for my new 2024 Steele Blue Dodge Hornet Hybrid RT !! ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
Hell yeah.
Test the new Outlander PHEV with it's S-AWC off-road.
Looks like a good small SUV. What we should ALL be driving. Efficient, robust and fun. Lease!
Ummmmmmm....I think I'll stick to my suburbans
@@Turshin So why are you here?🤔
@@mike_johnson87 I like this little crossover.
@@Turshin Okay!😂
We will just have to see what reliability is like. It's worst negative is cargo space followed by sticker price. Beyond those, it seems like a fun car to drive and puts most others back on the trailer in terms of looks. I hope it sells, off topic but the Fiat 124 spider was a way nicer looking car than the last Miata version. Hope Stellantous gets their act together...they have the looks right.
Thanks a lot for the info. Now I'm definitely keeping my 5.7 RT challenger...
This is a nice looking car, but let's be real...for that price, it isn't an Alfa Romeo. Price should be way less. Dodge Brothers aren't rolling over, but doing backflips in their graves at what Stellantis is doing to their name and brand.
It really looks good...but will it last and be reliable?
You went past the detent in the throttle pedal. It doesn't lock out the gas engine in case you need it in an emergency. I'm sure this is the 50th comment about this specifically
@ 15:51 you saying dont you it ,just lease it ?
Steering wheel is amazing, because it's the same as in Tonale...and Giulia and Stelvio.
It sounds so much like a diesel from the outside it had me second guessing. Shoutout VW for killing brand trust for diesel cars in North America but man it’d be nice to see some diesel hybrids here.
A diesel hybrid would put several vehicles into the 60mpg+ economy status, can't have that here in the US LOL. A diesel hybrid would be great, but if a Dodge Hornet POS is $52k, I'd hate to see what an automaker would charge for a small car with a diesel/hybrid powerplant...probably $60-80k.
Great video. One thing I would like to point out is that the R/T actually has a ground clearance of around 6 inches in comparison to the 8 inches the GT has which I believe is because of the battery pack. Any chance of getting a review done on the GT spec in the near future? The R/T is neat but Dodge is asking serious money for this thing IMO. The GT seems like the more practical option and in real world testing seems to be not that much slower than the R/T version.
What happened to your eastern Washington testing ground that you did your Ford Maverick videos on?
It’s been modified for advanced off-readers. Too hard for regular vehicles now so we don’t go out there as often.
I'm waiting for him to test the new 2024 Hyundai santa fe xrt hopefully it's as capable as it looks
Hoping we can get that one soon.
@@drivingsports sounds crazy but are yall able to test out spacing in the car when it comes to strollers and car seat. No one really shows that part of car testing as I belive it's a make or break when looking for a economical suv
@@CalebBarber-qq9ywthere’s a channel car mom and she tests vehicles like a mom would in the real world.
No real world where this is purchased over a Tucson or Santa Fe plug in. It beats the dodge in size, efficiency, and has an actual AWD system all at a much lower price
I love your reviews
52k for a freaking rebadged alfa is absolutely insane. Especially cuz itll spend most of its life in the shops. There are so many better options for much less and more reliable
great review.
Not sure what the purpose of this car or who is the target consumers.
The most popular vehicle segment in the world. That's the purpose!
What’s if I don’t have a charger? Is that going to change the performance?
Love this SUV!
I can see why they are not selling it very well ....way too expensive for a small Dodge
Why is it a problem that it engages the ICE motor under hard acceleration?
@@RRr-yl8zr have you also heard of what happens to engines and fuel when they sit still for a long ass time?
@@RRr-yl8zr for a lot of people 34 miles is enough for the whole day
it's also only if you stomp on the gas pedal. this is a non-issue.
@@RRr-yl8zr you're not thinking of people who drive around town 99% of the time. yes, rare, but still a considerable amount.
I love Dodge. They have a big long history of building absolute trash, so they turn to Italians for help. I couldn't think of a worse group of people to come together to design and engineer a car apart from if the French somehow joined in
Not really interested in Dodges, watched it just to see if Mr Legs-torso-proportional was gonna climb into the cargo hole. And no, it ain't Alfa Romeo 😂
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Dodge this
I see what you did there.
is the HVAC heat pump.. so i can run the HVAC in batttery in camp mode?
Chrysler is dead, and Dodge is nothing without nostalgia. R.I.P.
The base GT with Blacktop package is almost 20k cheaper and you don't have to deal with the plug in electric crap. Still has 268 HP and tons of standard perks like heated seats and steering wheel. The non hybrid is actually faster 0-60 than the PHEV version.
People are saying they wouldnt buy this for the price, im genuinely curious what else you would buy in this price point. Also are we not buying it because of what it is on paper or because its a "Dodge". Just curious on peoples perspective
RAV4-Prime for 43K, Outback wilderness 40K, Crosstrek Wilderness 36K, Honda Passport 40ish K. Need I go on?
For a couple thousand more, I can get an entry level Land Cruiser. I can get a well appointed WRX for less than 40k.
Hell, a rav4 prime is only $49k. Why would I ever buy this thing when I can get the literal segment leader for less?
Have you sat in one of these? It's fairly claustrophobic... With a 1.3 liter 4 cylinder and Alpha Romeo reliability on offer, there are countless other vehicles I'd own before this at any price, let alone at $52k.
Mercedes Benz GLA, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Toyota Highlander, Jeep Wrangler, Ford Explorer, Kia Telluride, Toyota RAV4, Toyota Venza...
a loaded CX-5 turbo? think you’d still save close to 15k.
It is a raised sporty hatchback.
Coming to you soon outside the front of a local Walmart. With garbage bag duct taped on rear side glass for patina. I hope those seats are good for 500lb humans.
I don't think that car has a 500lb payload capacity even LOL.
The only reason why it completed that is because of the TFL car video where they did it and it tripped the wheel speed sensor and Dodge made a software update to fix the problem
Overpriced, but cool in a way. The cargo space and the fact that the seats dont fold anywhere close to flat is a big negative. Obviously, quality, reliability and resale value are also question marks.
Alfa r with dodge badge
What next? A 35k dodge neon?
Look at all that power going to the rear now make it send power side to side it would be a beast
2024 RAV-4 Prime is 10K cheaper, just sayin
Same thoughts. But, If you can find one at that price
IF you could get one, wouldn't it still have a 10K markup? These will realistically be at least 10K under MSRP.
Glen mills Toyota. I decided on an outback wilderness instead (don’t ask me why, the only reason is that we already have a 2020 non prime RAV hybrid and didn’t want two) but I had a firm quote, cash no trade
@@fortniteharambe nope, 43 plus tax title and tags out the door.
It also is better built, will work past the warranty period, and it is screwed together much better
such a beautiful little SUV!!!! so much better than the majoroty of the competition out there
I’m not shooting the reviewer here, but $52k for this rebadged hot turd. That’s bonkers.
Might as well buy a used 2022 Lexus GX 460 premium or even luxury for $45k which will hold its value.
You could buy a sweet barely used Lexus for that 😮
Right!! A 2023 used GX will cost around 52
...and have a car that's 1000x better too LOL. Lexus has some nice cars in that price range....and less expensive too LOL.
It would be really nice if you could do a Mazda CX9 with the off-road option
Overpriced smal SUV. But overall it's good nice looking vehicle for daily driving. As usuall props to You for taking it off road. Great review. Greetings
Why y’all keep comparing this to the Dodge Charger? This is a CUV, this is replacing the Dodge Journey, the Dodge Journey replaced the Dodge Nitro, and this is not an off-road vehicle, if you want off-road capability go to Jeep, buy the Jeep Compass Trailhawk, similar class, different capabilities.
I'm going to feel bad for anyone I see actually paying for and owning one of these. You are right...the 10k cheaper RAV4 is way too expensive for a compact crossover...go home Dodge, you're drunk.
On a related side note, there are going to be (and already are) a lot of people with 15 year mortgages on shi**y cars that they will only be able to trade in at dealerships for ridiculous losses.
With all the rattling and noises, I’d be paranoid it was on the brink of breaking down 😂
The tensmissions are going out, they had to try more horsepower which is why the motor kicks in. Other cars are unsafe.
What?
$52k ,what Stellantis (Chrysler) smoking 🚬? ,this is a joke , another $4k more I can get a Toyota Landcruiser(J250) with mild hybrid lol ,
for this price i would the Durango
Why would you compare the trunk size to the CRV when the hornet is more comparable to the HRV in size. It’s like the exact same size as the HRV you only pay more for a Hornet because it’s a way better car interior, powertrain and tech. Yeah yeah the HRV is a Honda it’s going to last a lifetime so people say but if you do your car right it will do you right. All companies have issues. Once Dodge get its footing they will be alright within the last week I’ve seen 3 Hornets and not the same ones. So people are starting to buy them. They actually look really good in person I’m on the market and I’m considering it. The only reason I won’t pull the trigger is because I want something bigger in size( I.e. Grand Cherokee, GLE) on the other hand I like the passport But they’re so boring interior and tech wise… idk idk I even like the Stelio!
Exactly!! The CR-V is way bigger.
You can line the HRV in gold and it's still not as expensive as the Hornet R/T. Nobody is going to cross-shop a $52,000 car with a sub-compact.
I have a gen 2 hrv, and the interior is bigger than this thing. The gen 3 even larger than the gen 2 hrv, just to give you perspective.
For a sub-compact at $52k, it better be the off-road model, all the skid plates, and AT rubbers.
@@drivingsports You don't compare vehicles based on price alone. That's like saying we can call a Ram 1500 a sports car because it costs the same as a Corvette. The Hornet is a subcompact crossover. At the absolute very least, you should mention in your video that the cars you're comparing it to are not at all in the same class but that you're comparing based solely on your opinion that people will cross shop them based on price. You make it sound like this is in the same class as the compacts when it's not. You can't compare cargo capacity to a vehicle of an entirely different class just because they're similarly priced.
@@jacklo325 You're just proving our point. The interior room is that of a subcompact like the HR-V.
A brand new Dodge Caliber for only $52,305? That’s a big bucket of money for an Italian fiat 500 xl based econo box! It’s slow and really cramped for space inside. Off road capability? Not really. Not with only about 3 inches of total suspension articulation. You can’t run over a 2x4 without lifting a wheel off the ground! No wonder these things are stuck on dealer lots like they’re parked in well hardened epoxy! If this was parked on a lot next to an old AMC Eagle (based on the old AMC Hornet) 4x4, I would opt for the old Eagle. It’s got more room in it, it’s probably more comfortable, real off roading capability, with ground clearance and suspension articulation and travel plus it’s probably almost as fast in a straight line. And it’s got enough room to actually sleep in the back.
$52k!!!!??? They must be joking. The most unreliable car on the market. It's the Yugo of 2024
Even though I read the comments, I still spit out my coffee when you said “U.S. dollars!” This is delusional!
I got my 2021 F150 XLT for $52k..Dodge is shooting themselves in the foot with this. 😂
Yeah, that car is nothing more than a $5-10k junk pile.
lol almost 53k for this rig? I was thinking before you said the price of around 40k at the most. I’m sure 10’s of these will be blowing off showroom floors over the course of a year. We have a 2021 Jeep 4XE and you cannot floor it without the gas engine kicking in. The E-save is a joke as it still uses electric although very slowly. Currently FCA has says don’t park our car inside and don’t charge the battery as it may catch on fire. Of course the said they didn’t have a fix and no compensation. MY LAST FCA product ever.
Agree with the high price!!! I will take The Honda .
This is a subcompact SUV. It is not short on cargo space for the class. What is he comparing it to? Compact SUVs?
Womp womp. Nevermind. His very next line compared it to a CR-V instead of an HR-V, showing he clearly doesn't know what class it's in.
Oh my god, then he goes on about it again later. It's NOT a small crossover, it's a SUBCOMPACT crossover. It's supposed to be small. It's actually on the large side of its class. You're just comparing it to the wrong class.
A $52,000 SUB-compact. That makes this vehicle sound even worse.
@@drivingsports Yes, yes it does, and I never said it didn't. But you can't compare something like leg room or CARGO space with a vehicle of a completely different class. Is the vehicle way overpriced? Yes. Is it smaller than its rivals? Not really. You just sound biased when you make it sound EVEN WORSE than it already is by making false equivalencies with vehicles it's not competing with.
@@RRr-yl8zr You can compare it with more expensive vehicles but you can't make claims like "it's smaller than such and such vehicle" when that other vehicle is in a different class. Are y'all really this dense or just hate Dodge so much that you'll say the stupidest shit for no reason?
Alfa has not very good reputation to put it mildly. Changing name doesn't improve reliability.
This is obv a majority Stellantis idea. It’s an alright vehicle IMO but linking it to the Alfa version gave Stellantis the cojones to charge this much, also IMO. Def not the correct vehicle to put a premium price tag on. Like if the they charged 45k for a neon back in the 90’s.
The torque vectoring is straight out lie, they should call it for what it is, brake vectoring, but Ford can't use theirs for cornering like Honda does, ivtm4/shawd has another accelerating unit to make rear wheels spin almost 6% faster to make it happen
Let’s all say it together. P.O.S!!!!
I like the Oldsmobile Alero front end. Looks good, just not Dodge like.
Lol a dodge... Charging luxury car prices? This is a FIAT! I'm sure the reliability will be as horrible as the rest of them..
I own a Fiat, been 11 years (142k miles) and reliability has been great. The new Toyota Tundra has major engine problems. But everyone love there narrow minded view that Italian cars are bad.
Mitsubishi eclipse cross also has one of these massive useless paddles and it doesn't even have a stepped automatic transmission
It's a safety concern for the engine to stay off. I'm shocked Toyota does. There should be a detent in the pedal like Porsche does.
What is the safety concern in running in battery?
I used to be a Chrysler fanboy… back when the 426 Hemi, 6 Pack 340 and 440s ruled the earth. Owned a 340 68 Barracuda Formula S, a 79 300, more K cars than I care to admit, a 03 TJ Rubicon and an 06 Unlimited TJ Rubicon. Though about a Hemi Challenger or Ram or even 4XE Jeep.
That said, I think Chrysler under Stellantis has lost its ever loving mind! This is what happens when a European company tries to bring European sensibility to a tire roasting, octane fueled American muscle car brand… A $52,000 + want a Bee er Hornet.
I am now on my 4th Subaru…. Would I trade my Outback Wilderness for that … not on your life! And that is the problem and probably the death nell or nail for Chrysler… the only interesting and attractively priced vehicle to draw people to the brand enough to put up with the quality have been deemed obsolete and replace with rebranded Euros that are not as good as their counterparts. Your opinion and mileage may vary.
This jeep compass frame dates back to 2004….
"Can it make us forget about the Challenger and Charger" - no, but it'll make me forget about Dodge 😂