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- It's Volkswagen vs Volkswagen for our latest drag race! But this time, we’re doing something a little different… It’s new school vs old school as the Mk 2 Golf GTI goes up against the new Volkswagen up GTI! They’re both packing similar horsepower, but can the new kid teach the old dog some new tricks? There’s only one way to find out… Let’s race!
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That's the calmest drag race I've ever watched! 😂
bahahahahahahahaha
Watch a drag race of electric cars tho
@@ilyasovich Electric cars' immensely quick acceleration compensates for their lack of engine and exhaust noise, while this drag race was like two minivans having a walk in the park.
Rehaan Khan, but even with their immense acceleration they are still more boring to watch (and drive once the novelty wears off) than these two little cars. There is almost no visceral experience or enjoyment with EV’s unfortunately.
That's your opinion dude
And how much horsepower did that mk2 actually have after 30 years
Got memes? Hp loss over time is a myth.
Tony Badivuk it’s Not. They loose hp over time. I just saw a comparison between a old 911 and a countouch. 911 lost a lot while the lambo just 20 hp or so
@@nikomoin7604 true!
There are numerous dyno test videos showing cars that have lost horsepower with age.
@@TonyEG6 no. The drivetrain goes through a lot of wear and tear, carbon buildup etc. Over the years and loses both power and efficiency.
The rolling start was like: 3, 2, 1, GO.... nothing happens 😂😂😂
No perspective on a racetrack, a Chiron would look the same....
When you're so slow and you have to race your grandad to feel like you're fast.
Fact
Lmao (XD)
Golf Mk2 still looks great.
R W my dad had one and he loved it. So much fun to drive! I agreed they still look great.
@POTUS I haven't seen your nans toaster. Does it look good?
Uh no? It's ugly as fuck. Old piece of shit
@@scoss2 same here, my dad got his in a magazine. Funnily thing was they called whilst my dad put it up on sale.
agreed. Old Golf's are still cool :)
Can you please please do a drag race between all the gti generations
Mk1 vs mk2 vs mk3 vs mk4 vs mk5 vs mk6 vs mk7
And which one do you prefer
Pleeeeeaaase🙏🏻
@POTUS that ain't a gti
@UCn2cV8HErKpRdu8f9eHrsIQ that's not the point, the point would be to see by how much
@POTUS The Mk5 R32 is a heavy and slow piece of shit
I've had a mk5/6/ & now a mk7 gti pp..which is the best car by far, although i liked the mk5 too, the mk6 not so much....
@POTUS mk4 S3 225 😂
UP! GTI vs Lupo GTI. That would be way better comparison :)
th-cam.com/users/volkswiz...
The Lupo will annihilate the up stock for stock
its not about comparrison, just having fun
Up is a 1000kg car? It looks like it's 800kg or less...
Audi 80 weights the same lul
No way the up is over a ton 😂
Tech will drag (get it 😂) you down.
Its heavy cos Its full of hopeless dreams.
Gotta be heavy makes it safee
Do this test after 10 years, that vw up will be dead in a junkyard and that old vw 2 will still run smooth with that engine.
I think you'll find the UP will be fine lol. The parts will be around a lot longer than MK2 golf parts
Loundsify modern VW’s are shite, vw are simply trading on past glories, the up will be dead and forgotten, the Mk2’s will live on, the classic vw sceane will take care of that.
yes fkin down sizing cars i hate this trend so much
1.0 ltr engine with a turbo 112 hp fk this
stop talking out of your ass, stupid boomer
I'd still rather have a stock Mk.2 Golf GTI than a goddamn Up
same
Not the same.
@Penguin Raining thunderstorms What a strange choice of insult.
Same
Preach.
I rather have the Golf anyways, such a beautifull car!
I drive a 60HP Up. It may be slow as hell but it holds corners really well and is superbly fun to drive. I may get the GTI one day, which I suspect pushes the envelope of what the Up chassis can actually handle towards the edge. The lower powered models don’t and you can throw them into corners at alarming speeds while still nailing the throttle.
The owner of that MK2 is very fortunate, that thing looks soo fresh😍
@TheCamshafter No shit bro. The price of that specific car goes up every year
BosnishMaffia This Mk2 is owned by VW UK as part of their heritage fleet. It has actually done less than 1000 miles.
Tom Banks believe you but can I get some proof?
Captain 69 Ring Volkswagen UK and ask them for a comprehensive spec sheet list of their heritage fleet 🙄
Tom Banks like I live in UK... surely you didn't call and asked them..
Golf MK2 is a true LEGEND !
AnimeOtakus it is true 😊👏
Put your pants back on
Not the simple gti, the g60 one
@@stamos9195G60 Limited 😀
Wonder why you guys didn't use a 16v mk2? 😆
Hp loss over time can be very much minimized and considering that this was a pretty mint condition golf 2, im sure it was still rocking like 110.
I think you people underestimate what a 5 speed vs a 6 speed can do, not even considering that the golf pumps out about 150 vs the up!'s 200 nm of torque.
Now, technically this is the lowest version of the golf 2 gti, the 1.8 8v, vs the highest version of the up. If we were to use the golf 2 gti 16v or g60, that would have looked very different.
But i think its more about the "does the up gti really compare to an oldschool gti like the manufacturer says"
And having driven both myself, i can safely say: fuck yes, the up gti is a blast
Thank you, I don't get it what's with the hate on up. It's a great little car and with 110hp it's probably pretty punchy too. Golf mk7 gti weighs way more so if you want the feel of the old light hatchbacks up! Is the way to go
Regardless of pace, one of these cars is so much more desirable. The beautiful, stunning, iconic, perfect, mk2. Always.
I think this shows what I thought as soon as the specs of the Up were released- it's a bit of a missed opportunity. Give it 140hp and let it compete with the Ecoboost Fiesta/ Swift. What a riot that would be.
@@fabers92 it has to compete with the Renault twingo RS first
comedyman112 I agree there’s the Polo for the Fiesta. Also my fav car of all time is GTI and I know that most GTI fans state that MK2 is the best, nothing is perfect
True, the Renault is apparently excellent in that tiny car segment. ^ talking about the 1.0 Fiesta, the 'warm' hatch segment, which Ford seems to have cornered now. They'll give you seats with some side bolsters too, unlike VW. For me the Mk1 and 2 in terms of pure aesthetic design are perfect, just spot on. Compared the mess of a blobfish here in red.
@@fabers92 They're classics
Should have been the 16v GTI Golf
My thoughts exactly. The Up would'nt have stood a chance.
As the Up is dohc (12v). Yeah Golf needed to be dohc too
I mean G60 would demolish UP 😂😂
true
UP 200kph - MK2 16V 240kph^^
I'd still have the Golf. I miss my old MK2 GTI 16v.
After all these years the old GTI lost compression for sure, so it is not a fair battle. What i can say is that that old car still looks awesome, and brought me a lot of memories.
Who else would like to see Doug go through the quirks and features of the mk2 golf gti
LOL Doug QnF Demuro
A14 CTEL the annoying Doug Demuro?
Quark is a dairy product, I think you mean quirk...
nobody, fuck off
@@Maurice_Moss haha exactly 'quirk' and features
You should use the 16v mk2
no.. for a stock race the MK2 GTI G60 is better
16v is also stock, so what do you mean?
@@sphiwemashaba2661 i mean that if both are stock, the g60 is better than the 16v
Obi Wan Kenobi no
@@thomasmessner1450 dude ofc it is. why should the 16V be faster than the G60
And STILL the Mark 2Golf GTI is the most handsome generation of VW hatchbacks. Beats the up/down/shake-it-all-about
I love the UP GTI...
No brakes test 😂😂, I wanted to see the evolution of those as well :)
No braking test? Probably not good for the old Golf... XD
but i think 1000eu 30 years old Golf is better option than that expensive weird Up
PetrolHead BS I know, but the Up! is probably much safer
EuroNCAP did a test of an old Golf (Mk1 or Mk2, can't remember), a VW Beetle (original version, but built in the 80's, rather than a really old one), vs a Golf IV to show the progress in crash safety, and the old Golf crumbled up so badly! th-cam.com/video/SeMrOQfliCs/w-d-xo.html (there's no actual sound, just some useless music on the video, so feel free to mute it)
2000 pound golf stops quick.
Simnater Croc oh no bruh, euro cars can all cruise at over 160 km/h without building up heat. You could drive your 30 year old Gti at 180 km/h all day everyday for years and years. They’re not powerful but they’re able to do the autobahn.
0:44
Mat shifting into 2nd gear:
*Turns on Right Turn Signal*
Richard Hammond:
*He's a save and sensible driver!*
Everything was happening , the old will remain in our hearths forever 🖤
Nice to see. But if the engine of mk2 has not been overhauled how do we know its not down on power.
Yep
Jesper very true, cars will increase in power initially as they loosen up then lose lose power over time, even with good maintenance, unless they regularly stripped down down the engine
You can see this was a promotional video for the new UP GTI. Here in South Africa i can give you at least 10 Mk2's in my area alone that would all smoke the Up. Looks like the person did not even try, and the Up GTI is hilariously slow.
I am sure those Mk2's will smoke most other sports cars on the road 😏
Charl Meyers Charl Meyers Lol no, The MK2 is just a little faster than the up. Did not even hear that one hit Rev Limiter.
0:44 nice to see someone indicating for a change👍
I have never been so sad in my life
Agreed
After all these years, I still love the Mk2 so much! This specific one is so neat ;lucky owner.
So this was a bit of sales advertising for the Up......with the Golf GTI 16v Mk2 the result would have been different.
'Sales advertising'? As opposed to what other kind of advertising?
And if I was to be in an accident I would want to be in the Up! - there’s progress for you...🧐😂
The 8v Mk2 Golf had 112 bhp (114 lbft), not 115. It was never a rocket ship even when new. However, on this video the Golf's launch was weak, looked like it bogged down, or the driver was being gentle - and given that it only had 1000 miles on it, I suspect it was rather tight. It may have been short shifted a little too - difficult to tell. 8v redline was 6,500 rpm or thereabouts. I suspect a more enthusiastic driver and a car with circa 60k miles on it would have given the Up a little more competition. That said, it's unlikely VW would want a 30 year old Golf to show up their current car, so a little creative directing was probably in play to make the Golf look worthy, but ultimately not quite so quick. ;) As comments below would attest, a 16v Golf of that era, or even one of the early K-Jetronic versions of the 8v (rather than this 'softer' digifant injected version) would have eaten the Up.
Also the up will have a six speed box so starting both in second is iffy too as the up will have lower gearing.
Yeah quite hopeless
Renault 5 Turbo & Peugeot 205 1.9 GTi were the motors to have for outright speed. The Golf MK2 falls about mid way between the 1.6 and 1.9 205 GTi's. The 1.6 would have put in about the same performance as this MK2 with a good driver.
The start off the line in this video was poor, the MK2 driver backed off after dumping the clutch where if he'd have kept it pinned it wouldn't have lost that much momentum from wheelspin.
Spot on
I agree with the k-jet vs digifant. As well, remember when Top Gear dragged a DX engined mk1 against the AGG engined mk4?
To all the folk who've posted negative comments about the Up GTi. Ive got and it's a fun car. Didn't buy it to please anybody else. You're entitled to your opinion..
Ima call Boba on u :3
Lol the up would get smoked
Cwandin I think every car I’ve seen in here would, especially in the rolling race
You forgot to mention that the new up is more aerodynamic. Beyond 50kmh aerodynamics are as important as horse power.
Tomoko Kishi "as important"? No...over 200km/h maybe. At 50 its importante, yes, but not as importante as power. Below 100km/h thats the weight that makes more effect after power and traction.
If you look my profile pic , can you see what choice i do
SaaS 97 👍😊
Luca Marzorati of course you pick the up
My mum
Still golf gti👌🏽
The 16v would of eaten the up ‘up ‘ lol they had to choose a 8v 🤦🏼♂️
Nah 8 v and 16 v both are slow
@@AndresV0182 lmao u have no clue
@@lowkey.5am725 i have a 16v 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@AndresV0182 and u find it slow 💀?
@@lowkey.5am725 of course not, it’s mad fun but I’m pretty sure that it’s not faster than the upi, last week I lost in a drag race v a normal stock civic coupe so it’s not that fast
i'd take that Mk2 over the Up in a heartbeat!
More of these old vs new, really enjoy watching these.👍
I wonder how a 16V would compare. Either way, you can stick your up, right up. I'll take the Mk2, thank you very much.
Put that Up! Against a MK2 GTI 16v and it would’ve been left for dead
The beauty of VW cars is they look great irrespective of time.
So true
Too true
Yeah i agree, It looked good before a drunk driver in a mk2 hit me off my motorcycle, wrecked my s1000RR and fractured my femur/tib/fib.
But they are not beauty :(
golf 2 gti best vw car ever !
Believe it or not the Golfs weren't desirable in the 90's, we all wanted Renault 5 Turbos, Peugeot 205 GTi's, Fiesta XR2i's and Astra GTE's. The Golf's were a bit boring in comparison at the time, more the choice of the older driver.
The Golf didn't start to get any kudo's until the VR6 which was still overshadowed by Escort RS 2000, RS Turbo and Astra GSi.
It wasn't until the mid 2000's when all the other old school cars were more or less dead and buried that the Golf shone as it was and still is the only one left from that era in any numbers. I only bought one because they were the last of the 80's / 90's hot hatches you could still get cheap at the time. The performance was there but I could see why I didn't bother getting one years before, the Astra GTE, Escort XR3i etc were way better cars to drive. The Golf felt cheap, lacked comfort and was noisy in comparison.
If all the other old school motors stood the test of time the Golf would be forgotten, but it's build quality and reliability have made a name for VW.
What does the torque has to do at 60 or even 80 mph, it's the aerodynamics which matter the most at high speeds, that's why the up won and probably because the golf lost some horses after 30 years
Yes aerodynamic drag is the limiting factor, but what do you need to overcome that air resistance? All vehicles face the same basic problem with moving through the air. You need power. Power is torque x RPM. So torque has an awful lot to do with it.
I had a Mk2 Golf GTI many years ago. Was an "F" reg, was about four years old, had 56k on the clock and was fantastic to drive. The sound, the solid feel. One of the best cars ive had. Lets not forget that back in the late 80s there wasnt many fast hatchbacks on the roads like there are today, and 115bhp in a light car was quite a lot of power back then so it felt very quick. Not much could beat me. Happy days.
Rose tinted glasses mate. They are shit to drive.
@@Wargwarn maybe if you drive one thats thirty years old 🤣 and clearly you didnt own one that was only four years old way back in the day when there wasn’t many alternatives. Im guessing you’re one of them millennials that couldn’t even drive in the 1980s. Keep smiling and remember its now 2024 yeah not 1989 so obviously the car industry has moved on since then.
Given the Mk II was a very late model, I'd say it most probably had a cat. And with a cat, that model produced 107 PS (non cat version was 112 PS).
The weight issue is pretty interesting - although I would hazard a guess that a late Mk II like that was probably over a ton - especially a posh version like the one used here with lots of options.
I did drive a 1988 Mk II GTI back in the late 80s/early 90s and even back then it didn't feel overwhelmingly quick. It was adequate for the time, but compared to a Kadett/Astra GSI 16V, a Mk II GTI 16V or even a MK I GTI it was a little underwhelming.
1.0 Turbo and 1.8 without turbo. Torbo is very important and everybody who have a car with turbo knows it.
Try 120-200 km/h. I had a mk2 GTI engine in my Audi 80 (1.8E), i guarantee that it will still beat it.
I don't think they can reach 200.
More like 190-195
Not a popular result. It just goes to show that acceleration isn't just a factor of power to weight, torque to weight is also a factor.
That said, I'd still love to have a Mk2 Golf again, especially as clean as that one.
1.0 TURBO , and 1.8 pure atmo engine... stupid to compare it :/
Maki vw agreed
That MK2 GTI looks bloody stunning.....was there another car in the video 🤣🤣🤣
Should have pulled a Boba Motoring Golf mk2
Hahahaha duuuude,I was about to say the same thing!
@@georgestam1710 Hahahahaha
I think it would be cool to put the Up GTI against one of the MKII Golf’s UK competitors: the MG Maestro EFI which was advertised to be a second faster than the golf back in the day
You didn't say how much power the Golf GTI 1.8 8V 112 HP or 1.8 16V 136 HP has. I am not talking about GOLF II G60 or VR6 anymore.
0:44 Mat had the indicator on lol in excitement im guessing
Fiat Punto GT or Uno mk2 turbo vs Abarth 500.
On that rolling race it was probably the aerodynamics that done it for the up...never started pulling till the high speeds
slow drag races can be just as fun as the big showy ones with multi million pound cars!
18sec 1/4m for a mk2 8v GTi proves it’s tired/in need of a decent setup. It launched terribly as well👀
Cars loose power over time it's just how it is.
Rookiereece bullshit matey. Having owned several mk2 GTi’s that really isn’t the case!
+Chris McMahon It is very normal for a car to lose 1-5% HP over 30 years with the original engine! Also depends on how you store the car and how many miles you've put on it. An MK2 with 500,000 miles definitely won't be guaranteed of having all it's horsies! But with only 100,000 miles it should be no problem!
Clorex Bleach I don’t think it’s ‘normal’ at all tbh. We aren’t in the 70’s anymore. Perhaps if poorly maintained/not serviced etc- but in today’s age of modern fuels/electronic ignition etc engines really don’t go off song and suffer mega loss of compression.
The mk2 in question I’d wager just needs a decent setup, a set of engine mounts, front dampers & a driver who can launch it!.
They certainly aren’t the fastest thing on 4 wheels but they are generally sharper than an 18 sec 1/4m.
From years of experience as I say....
Chris McMahon The driver was very gentle because its not is car, its from someone else who give it the chance to make this test, and its a well conserved 30 years old classic car...
At least I’d still have my pride driving a golf 😂
I want to see a drag race between the Polo G40, Fiat Uno Turbo, Renault 5 Turbo, Fiesta XR2i, Charade Gti, Swift Gti, 106 Rallye etc... that would be really cool, but probably also impossible
How about a drag between the Up Gti and the Polo G40 (1.0Turbo with 115hp against a 1.3 8v compressor with 113hp)
Very interesting idea, closer from the concept.
Mk2-beautiful
Up!-shit
Old is gold
Up is a good and mk2 you are fu ck hater
You remember as a child when you put two snails next to each other to see wich one is faster?
i would love to see the rabbit vs the mk 2 gti 16v vs the mk3 gti 16v vs the mk3 vr6 12v vs the mk4 gti etc to the mk7 Clubsport and eventually the golf R
I feel the pain with my old Bimmer... E36 328i Convertible, 2.8 Straigth-6 engine sounding better than most things on the road, yet any new mid-tier diesel or 1.6-2l petrol will smash me in family cars. Oh well.
ModHunter rebuild it and itll be better than before
I'd still rather have the mk2 golf.
The MK2 still looks timeless amazing opposite that Up shit.
Nostalgia is an amazing thing..
@@TheSpudlyMcgudly It's not always the case. A lot of people don't like the over bloated and heavy look of most modern cars. The visibility also suffer the fat design of today
A lot of people have nostalgia over most things Cars, games consoles, sports stars. Fact of the matter is everything improves over time
Good to see the comparison of some more 'normal' dare I say everyday cars. I wonder if the Up will be a classic? That Golf still looks modern and fresh. Great design.
What about G60 ? :) Not only simple GTI 8V!
LOL ... 16V G60 ---> 210 HP !!!
💪💪💪
MK2 power bro!
Mk2 GTI G60 Limited Edition is real legend
@@ivi1232 True bro, in that time, G60 same as flying car today...
Vw caddy vs Peugeot partners please❤❤
I prefer the mk2 GTI. Although i will hand it to the UP GTI it's amazing how a modern small turbo engine thats only a 1l can keep up with a older much bigger engine.
Matt being funny,at the drag race,he accidentally turned on the turn signal.😆😆😆😂😂😂😂
That Mk2 launch was terrible.
Brakes test?
Frédéric RENAUD brake*
The Up would annihilate the Golf for brakes. Just having ABS alone would make a big difference (assuming the Mk2 is not one of the few that had ABS). Would have been an interesting comparison though.
Maybe not like you think....The Golf is lighter and abs does not necessary means u brake better. So...
That gotta be interesting... Lol,!
Do you want to kill the MK2? Damnation!
Take the mk2 over any new car. Any fucking day.
but now a mk2 over a e30 or a supra. now thats tough.
Make this test after 30 000 km mileage... With this same engine in UP.. :)
well, take the 16 valve version with 138 HP and the Up will be left for dead :)
That's not the point,it's testing cars of a similar weight and power
Love the up! GTI, shame we can’t get this over New Zealand
Sad, but not as sad as no Dacia.
It's a over priced piece of shit lol.
I'm also from NZ, only ever seen 1 up! for sale here but wasn't a GTI. I would also love one .
GinGER too bad. We don’t get too many Lupo GTI in NZ either, we need to import either UK or Japan for that special little car
GinGER we have Mahindra and Folton tho 😂
Golf GTi mk II has a soul. Everything technological has gone ahead. Turbochargers or materials currently used to build a car are far ahead than cars a few decades ago. But these new cars don't have one, they don't have the soul of this old school. They are simply instruments for moving. While Golf mk II has something that makes it special. And it was my first car 😁 😉 👍
My first car was used Mk.2 GTI, in 1995. Had it for 3 years, than dad of my friend bought it from me, and made a lot of repairs and mods, turning it into a fun weekend car.
Never disrespect a Golf 2 like this again! 🙁
Disrespect ? In what way ?
Never thought I'd say that but that Up GTI looks really good
So 30 years of development and newest Technology, and it’s only 0,3 sekunds faster. I thought the carindustry were better then that
Tbf the UP GTI is meant to be the most affordable GTI. It starts at around £14,000 new so you can't expect crazy power at that price point. If you want to look at more progress in speed then just have a look at the mk7 Golf GTI which is miles ahead in speed
That old Golf will probably be still operational by the time that new Polo breaks down completely.
Well... Up! Yours... I'd still take the mk2 gti over the up, anyday..
You guys should do Dodge Demon vs a Tesla
Dodge Demon loses. Only on a prepped track with race fuel and an ECU-flash WITH an pro-Dodge Demon driver can the Demon win. In street mode with an average driver the Demon stands absolutely no chance at all.
Theyll haveto do that in santa pod. Tesla will mince the demon hands down
The golf will still be on the road in another 20 years, the Up will be a baked bean can and a tonne of shopping bags.
Let's try the UP GTi with the same mileage on it as the real original spirited mkII GTi that was tested. That's a truer test!
This is the slowest race on TH-cam haha
boba motoring: me golf go brrr
they both definitely beat new Tesla roadster
Great sarcasm!!!
Of course they will. They are both real cars. They can easily beat a fictional one.
A true petrol-head Yeah mate, electric cars are shit.
So shit infact that the new Golf GTE absolutely DOMINATES the Golf GTI in every way, shape and form... 😂
@@ThatsMrMaxHeadroomToYou golf gte is a hybrid. E golf is the electric car. And it loses to the gti in every way
@A true petrol-head I completely agree
Golf Mk2 is always going to be the most legendary VW for me
Doesnt matter nobody on earth would ever choose the up over the golf
Wtf is this even supposed to be a driving potato?
Tell the driver of the mk2, to be more aggressive. 3.5k rpm. Jump off the clutch and mash the trottle...by by up.
Exactly how I used to launch mine, no need to back off the throttle with a bit of spin like this driver did.
Yeah, but thats is not is 30 year old GTI. Its from someone else who gentle give it for this litle test
I would love to see a collab with doug demuro
I had an UP! GTI in the family for a few months. People might say there’s no comparison but I could never judge it favourably against the panda 100hp I had not long ago. I just didn’t like it as much as I thought I would. The power was there, sure, but car didn’t feel as fun as I think it should have.
I’m used to seeing Porsche 911’s Tesla Model S P100Ds ETC, it’s good to see a logical drag race for a change ;)