How To Spot a Narcissist and Heal From Them w/ Dr. Ramani Durvasula | The Psychology Podcast

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  • This week Scott is joined by clinical psychologist and author Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Dr. Durvasula is one of the world’s leading experts on narcissism. In this episode, they the common myths about narcissism, the warning signs of narcissism to look for when a new person enters your life, and how to heal and move on with your life after you've been hurt by a narcissistic person.
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  • @LoisPasinella
    @LoisPasinella 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Dr. Ramani is a rare, concisely, clear, empathetic, and supportive voice for those of us who suffer from antagonistic relationships. I value her insight, her knowledge, her understanding, and her compassion! Dr. Ramani, well said in this broadcast!

    • @jean1244
      @jean1244 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And well said Lois! She is amazing. Gives us clarity. The confusion is being unravelled.

  • @Angela-bz8sw
    @Angela-bz8sw 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Dr Ramani - I am astounded that folks have been hateful towards you. What? This hurts me for you. I am so sorry there are so many jerks out there. Keep on keeping on!!

  • @TranscendingTrauma
    @TranscendingTrauma 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    I love how Dr. Ramani is not wishy-washy. Often when people tell us to let go of the awareness of narcissism, and the damage that comes from these relationships, it’s similar to the concept of spiritual bypass. Which further invalidates people that were victims of narcissist abuse. It also does cause that confusion she talks about. Because we know the experience we had, and the damage it caused, and then we are made to feel shame around it like oh, they just had a traumatic childhood, and all these other excuses for their very harmful behaviors. The conflict between our felt experience of abuse and having that experience minimized and justified is what creates.. hello birth of cognitive dissonance. We are not blaming everything on the narcissist. We are blaming them for everything that was that direct result of the entanglement with them (hate to call it connection, that muddies something healthy). Which ironically is a lot. They are the cause of lots of damage. When we are clear on this, that is when progress is made. No more excuses that is a form of enabling narcissism to continue running rampant.

  • @jironfinn1
    @jironfinn1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a provider in health care, Dr Ramani has been tremendously helpful to me personally and professionally. She is very empathetic, clear, concise and articulate. She is a MASTER communicator of some very complex concepts. Thank you Thank you Dr Ramani!!🙏🫶

  • @sueanncrawford6217
    @sueanncrawford6217 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    At 15 years of marriage, when I finally went for help, my psychologist asked why I was there; I said “My husband is driving me crazy” She told me I was married to an alcoholic after many questions, but Dr Ramini made me realize that primarily he was, and is, a narcissist. 10 years in Alanon, it still didn’t come together until she filled in the blanks. Thank you Dr R!

  • @carolgonzales4262
    @carolgonzales4262 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Dr. Ramani, you outshined the host and were so good at making your intelligence known on this subject. 👏 Course everyone knows you are THE person to go to for in-depth knowledge of narcissists. I can't thank you enough for saving my sanity.❤

  • @lisalambert81865
    @lisalambert81865 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    My daughter called me a narcissist and have convinced others that I am a narcissist.
    I had been on therapy at this point 9-10 years and making good progress. Because she said I just found a therapist that would tell me what I want to hear, I got referrals to a psychologist that his specialty is diagnosing behavioral issues and narcissism, so I went and had a complete psychiatric evaluation done. I got the report of his findings and gave it to my daughter and therapist, it showed I was not a narcissist, that I had extreme trauma and low ADHD. My daughter didn’t back down from her claim I was a narcissist and smear campaign.

    • @biancabernardo8410
      @biancabernardo8410 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      There's a narcissist there but it's not you.

  • @kayakins3051
    @kayakins3051 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Dr. Ramani is absolutely wonderful in her knowledge! She’s a gift to this world.

  • @thiefonthecross7552
    @thiefonthecross7552 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Ramani is a legit warrior

  • @HipJipC
    @HipJipC 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I listen to the podcast on the Alexa Echo Pop and come here to leave a Thumbs Up. This one was especially good because it hits every key point of every single stage as it progresses to reach FINALLY the state of going no contact. I'm 64 and came out the other side of a narcissistic mother and a collection of narcissists I "collected" and played the victim although being in a co-dependent relationship there is NO victim, just a dance between two playing a sort of game. They use other terms other than "no contact" but it's the same... changing the narrative is what is needed because taking a victim mentality makes one inapproachable because the "victim-hood" becomes an addiction. No one likes "Victim Personalities". Setting boundaries that we enforce for our own well-being is key to shutting out these blind humans. No, you're not being "Selfish", it's called self-preservation. Narcissists can and will destroy you if you let them. Don't let them!

  • @JanineHyslop
    @JanineHyslop 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    dr Ramani done amazing here not sure id have coped as well.. tricky but she outdone herself as usual.

  • @johnmoyer99
    @johnmoyer99 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I like how she reframed people pleasing as a necessary survival strategy for those of us who had mothers who were narcissists. It became clearer to me that my mother’s adoptee status who never had a relationship with her biological parents evolved into a narcissistic personality.

  • @band_its1518
    @band_its1518 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I finally finalized my divorce with my narcissistic husband. Unfortunately we do have 4 children together, the youngest being 1, so I am stuck with him for some time, but I no longer am stuck in a state where I know nobody being an at home mother and going without just to satisfy his need for drugs and alcohol. I have come a long way, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and I finally can not only see it, but look forward with excitement instead of fear to see whats on the other side. My story has only just begun, at the age of 37...
    ;

  • @leilagomulka5690
    @leilagomulka5690 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes . “ what they are doing is not okay “yes.

  • @preethishreeya8035
    @preethishreeya8035 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dr. Ramani's videos saved my brain from thinking I am totally worthless after experiencing narcissistic abuse from a younger guy. The silent treatment, the manipuation into getting what he wanted and the discard. It's all exactly like she talks about in videos and in her book. I hope she is not questioned to the levels that the host is trying to check her. She is right! That's all we know.

  • @judimunro9279
    @judimunro9279 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’m glad I am reading: “It’s not you.”
    Very thankful for the book which is not just a repeat of stuff I’ve heard on the many podcasts I’ve listened to.

  • @adamthaeer217
    @adamthaeer217 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Such a wonderful human being

  • @LisaSmith-yb2uz
    @LisaSmith-yb2uz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Great discussion (I love Dr. Ramani’s work!) 😘

  • @mayviskhoo3283
    @mayviskhoo3283 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    This dude was shaming himself each time he opened up his mouth, making unintelligent remarks and gibberish jargons. Why would the producer allow such an inexperience and immature fool to conduct this interview with Dr Ramani? She deserves better!! Dr Ramani is such an amazing and highly intelligent person and it was so degrading to assign this fool to interview her. It feels like Dr Ramani is parenting a teenager who pretends to be the cool kid throughout the whole interview.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think this was done deliberately in order to introduce heavy and difficult topis of psychiatry with many people who are not much educated in psychology, or are not interested to learn all the clinical definitions - but they still suffer from NPD due to toxic colleagues or boss or family members in their lives.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I've just watched the whole video and this dude is catastrophe. At around 38 minute he is screeching mysterious sound, I thought at first there is some animal in my room. Rarely annoying person to listen. If there was no Ramani here, I would quit watching it long time ago.

    • @jean1244
      @jean1244 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Interrupting - out of his depth!

  • @dr.shilpagowda4700
    @dr.shilpagowda4700 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow. This brilliant lady doctor gets me. Totally resonate with her childhood psychology assessment and several other concepts, such as grief over opportunity costs, etc. I will be reading her book!

  • @leilagomulka5690
    @leilagomulka5690 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Super podcast

  • @hopefulldoubts
    @hopefulldoubts 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    This guy is not happy that men statistically are more of the abusive mentality than women. This is historic. Don't check her book facts, check history dude.

    • @synneazaro
      @synneazaro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      👏👏👏 this dude is just not sharp enough..

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It appears that he hides his laziness as being convinced that he is a nice guy.
      I smell traits of narcissism here.

  • @andreacook6000
    @andreacook6000 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it depends whether or not you think the values of the world mean that you finish first. What is your definition of finishing first and what is your definition of finishing last? what actually matters? in this video you come across as somebody who is still very much bought into the values that the media and the world say are important. Have these values worked for the world? Have they made people happy? look deeper…

  • @csnymoodiesfan
    @csnymoodiesfan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m so glad you said we don’t have to be shut down because we call someone a narcissist and we’re not therapists. After seeing so many videos on narcissism, there is no doubt that the person I know definitely has these characteristics. She even said after going to therapy with her family that the blame was put on her, but she never acknowledged that she was the cause of the problems in her family.

  • @lisalambert81865
    @lisalambert81865 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    You just said that the victim gets to the point where they record a conversation/ argument with the narcissist.
    Well I have known two narcissists that recorded a victim after reactive abuse, they get the victim worked up and pushed all the right buttons and then press record them having a reaction.
    I came across a recording of me accidentally of a fight and I remember the fight and there were pieces of the fight missing, then at the end of the recording the narcissist says “ now you see what I have to deal with”.
    So the victim can be made to look like the narcissist.

    • @Jaylade
      @Jaylade 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The recording is absolutely awful. Never had it in a relationship until my present one.

  • @ay5810
    @ay5810 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yuo are a life saver Dr Ramani 😍

  • @user-wr6zi6nl8k
    @user-wr6zi6nl8k 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you Dr 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @user-yw5hm4fy2i
    @user-yw5hm4fy2i 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I think the Psychology fields need to add a few more chapters into the existing psychological disorders such as Passive/Aggressive behaviors, CODEPENDENCY with NARCISSISTIC DISORDERS and their detrimental effects on the victims worst than anything else..I hope the APA would be able to get enough Federal Aids for research projects in these areas and last but not least I bet ya there are plenty of high profiles government's officials who might funded these programs are actually the Narcissistic themselves 😂😅..

  • @hopefulldoubts
    @hopefulldoubts 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I cannot get over him saying "Well atent you miss assertive". Hahaha Dr Ramani is talking fast because she has a lot damage control to do with this dude. He is clearly clueless and seems to want to "one up her"

  • @user-kj1kk7cr9f
    @user-kj1kk7cr9f 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lol that comment 2 narcs absolute recipe for disaster made me chuckle to myself, which felt good as I've still been ruminating as just about to get rid of narc mate lol,!!!!

  • @ranc1977
    @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    With people pleasing we need to take step back. What are the origins of this? Is this trauma informed behavior? Was this a way how person maintained attachments? If a person had narcissistic parent, being a people pleaser was the only way they were going to get any form of attunement from that parent. People pleasing now is literally may be safety behavior. What is function of people pleasing- only by doing I am going to be safe. Fixing becomes love
    🟥 Dr. Ramani Durvasula
    -
    this is the only person who recognize people pleasing - all other authors ashame it as being too nice syndrome.

  • @judimunro9279
    @judimunro9279 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    “Un-crazying” someone! Yep. That’s me….

  • @skeptik-ci5xo
    @skeptik-ci5xo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I beg to differ that everyone is attracted to narcissists. I am completely turned off and repelled by them.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Narcs do not come with narcissists tattooed on their forehead.
      They are manipulative - and they are actors. They have glib charm like psychopaths.
      All this means - that they will appear as saints and as saviors and the most perfect person you seen in your life. At first.
      The fake social mask will appear as their true persona - and with honeymoon phase - they are like flash eating plant attracting the insects with the sweet aroma.
      So people will fall into the predatory jaws easily.
      This is why education in NPD is crucial and especially from deep experts like Dr Ramani.

    • @Durhamcricket543
      @Durhamcricket543 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You haven’t met the charming, love bombing one yet!

    • @skeptik-ci5xo
      @skeptik-ci5xo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My sister is the narcissist that drives me to these videos; and I’ve never been loved bombed by her. Insult bombed, 💯 but there’s no love there. She is good at love bombing other people in my presence though, just to make sure it’s clear that I’m a horrible person. But it’s phony and hollow. She is a vulnerable narcissist which is even less attractive. As far as the smooth talking narcissists, I see right through them. I’ve only ever been attracted to nice men, and I’m married to the best one. I’m lucky and grateful for that.

  • @jannabailey6800
    @jannabailey6800 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a friend who from what I have been able to figure out is narcissist which reminded me of gaslighting until three months ago. Another format friend . could've been narcissist. I had a five year or so time away from a friend whom I've known over 35 years. I decided to write her and our friendship was revived. When I told Ann I was friends with Sue Ann said drop her insisted voice tone. I said no and slammed the phone down. After that Ann's and my friendship wasn't the same. I haven't heard from Ann in twelve years maybe eleven years. She moved to another state and her husband divorced Ann .❤They have a daughter. .

  • @bibleblessingsministries2964
    @bibleblessingsministries2964 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think one of the expanations for people falling victim to narcissists or cult leaders is the deep desire in us to find an ideal person to follow. The narcissist presents an attractive ideal veneer.

  • @MeanEileen916
    @MeanEileen916 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Have you (the interviewer ) ever done any introspection??

  • @shontal_ceramic2830
    @shontal_ceramic2830 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They can't say your name properly. Dr Ramani

  • @chaitrakeshav
    @chaitrakeshav 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

  • @freezo244
    @freezo244 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    39:20 💯

  • @BenOnuMuDiyorum
    @BenOnuMuDiyorum 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:05 Finally... I was sick of clinicians' and therapist's egomania that like they can easily figure out if they see a narcissist in a consultation. And not allowing you to spot one.

  • @Ricki7704
    @Ricki7704 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    You’ve mispronounced both her first and last name. Two minutes of research will help

    • @jenp5759
      @jenp5759 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      It feels so disrespectful, doesn’t it? Some do that with Gabor Mate too

    • @paularyan8400
      @paularyan8400 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Makes you wonder where the host falls on the spectrum.

    • @maryannribble3254
      @maryannribble3254 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Do I hear judgementalness ?
      Really ? How about looking in the mirror and listening to a surprise recording of yourself ..,,
      Narcissism ….??? A hint of …

    • @jenp5759
      @jenp5759 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paularyan8400 what the hell does that mean?

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It seems that his priorities are more in pleasure seeking than being professional.

  • @dalehamon4295
    @dalehamon4295 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At 20:30 is she talking about the cult of Trump

  • @danarchambault8723
    @danarchambault8723 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My experience has never been validated , and no one ever will , I am on my own , to live the best life I can

  • @ljrockstar69
    @ljrockstar69 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This was kind of an awkward interview. I've seen Dr. Ramani in other interview/podcast forums and did well in those, but for some reason this one feels grating and uncomfortable. I can tell Dr. Ramani is kind of irritated.

    • @1Luckydog3377
      @1Luckydog3377 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I completely agree. I don’t think the interviewer was as informed or prepared as most, and Dr Ramani had to try to tactfully correct him a few times.

  • @tonyhill2318
    @tonyhill2318 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Oh my goddddd...the lengths this guy goes to make himself seem like he's a "GOOD GUY"....not only is it incredibly annoying, but it definitely guarantees he is NOT a nice guy. Not really.

  • @user-zs7xh6ot4u
    @user-zs7xh6ot4u 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if vulnerable narcissists can be successful - even by the world's standards - but it never feels like enough, either because part of the success is a facade OR because whatever level of success they have, they feel that they were thwarted from reaching the level they deserve.

  • @mday3821
    @mday3821 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have two Coverts living next door. Every time they go to do yard work it ends with a few mean words then follows silent for hours. Sitting back and wondering how will that relationship end! The female reminds me of my mother. UGH

  • @ivancastillo4619
    @ivancastillo4619 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I opened up to my therapist through email and it looks like she didn't believe me and thought that I was only sending that email to convince her to help me get disability. It's not true cus I was afraid so that's why is ent it through email to avoid retaliation. I even told the clinician that I didn't feel safe were I lived but I didn't open up to her for those same reasons.

  • @devinbrunson3593
    @devinbrunson3593 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    13:18 "She got a powder-keg vibe"

  • @vagabondcaleb8915
    @vagabondcaleb8915 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She said, "Doo-doo." 50:00😁

  • @taym4542
    @taym4542 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Loved this interview, especially the last 10 minutes; Dr. Ramani was perfect at correcting this guy's idiotic, misinformed takes

    • @BeaCoetzee-ey5zp
      @BeaCoetzee-ey5zp 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is a tad narcissistic in the manner in which he conducted interview😮

  • @SilentTrip
    @SilentTrip 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I don't like the questions the host was asking Dr. Ramani, smells like red-pill

    • @Jaylade
      @Jaylade 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah sounds like hes dipping into the red-bill-red-flag manosphere, hope he recovers soon.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Jaylade Let's hope he reads the comments and do something about his issues.

  • @synneazaro
    @synneazaro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    «Mostly female Audience” I am from Norway and you just don’t use language like that. For us it sounds as stupid and uninformed as “he was a male doctor”

    • @Jaylade
      @Jaylade 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hes just adding details

    • @synneazaro
      @synneazaro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jaylade just unnecessary, and is it true? An intrest in psychology I would guess is gender neutral.

  • @marilynlorraine
    @marilynlorraine 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    first step, bud: pronouce your guest's name correctly. I can't even watch this because you are too lazy to get that right.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well 90 percent of men are like him.

  • @rozalialuks6583
    @rozalialuks6583 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Your guest is Full of Good Ideas. But she needs "to relax" to let us follow her train of thought.
    Thank you both!

    • @robinantonio8870
      @robinantonio8870 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I have no trouble keeping up. Maybe it's your problem, not hers

    • @user-bn1cv1jw2c
      @user-bn1cv1jw2c 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@robinantonio8870I agree with you!!!! They are obviously upset, that she is talking about them!

    • @Kyshalise
      @Kyshalise 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      She’s great you’re far off

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Relax?
      What does that mean? I am curious what is your definition of being relaxed and talking about topic related to severe abuse and suicide issues?
      Smoking weed and reggae music in the background?

  • @kenkeyes8148
    @kenkeyes8148 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Like this is like vacuous pop psychology for women.

    • @hopefulldoubts
      @hopefulldoubts 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You must not live in reality of the world we live in. But it's okay. If you did we would not have this issue.

    • @robinantonio8870
      @robinantonio8870 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Wow, how to out yourself as a narc. Well done

    • @tonyhill2318
      @tonyhill2318 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The male host maybe. Ramani is the real deal.

  • @ranc1977
    @ranc1977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tip: if you ran a "psychology" podcast - you won't get seriously if you use F word.

  • @sarahb9805
    @sarahb9805 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love narcissists ❤

    • @devinbrunson3593
      @devinbrunson3593 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      You don't need to - they already have that covered

    • @kh5603
      @kh5603 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@devinbrunson3593 they're prob one lol I've now steered clear of the folks who say they see nothing wrong with narcissism....over time their personality showed these traits (thanks for the research from the last decade or so!). I've also heard folks say its better to be a narcissist and succeed than a good person who serves and gets stepped on...and of course this is taught to kids and passes down, will never end

    • @iheartlol90
      @iheartlol90 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤮

  • @ScottBeanZ
    @ScottBeanZ 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Read her book Word for Word, yet can’t pronounce her name?

  • @fluorescent.stream
    @fluorescent.stream 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    learning how to properly say a guest's name demonstrates true care/ not learning is careless

  • @daasocialninja4804
    @daasocialninja4804 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What wrong with this guy? He sounds so bleeeh and the questions he ask do nice guys finish last really? Shadap

  • @lisalambert81865
    @lisalambert81865 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My daughter called me a narcissist and have convinced others that I am a narcissist.
    I had been on therapy at this point 9-10 years and making good progress. Because she said I just found a therapist that would tell me what I want to hear, I got referrals to a psychologist that his specialty is diagnosing behavioral issues and narcissism, so I went and had a complete psychiatric evaluation done. I got the report of his findings and gave it to my daughter and therapist, it showed I was not a narcissist, that I had extreme trauma and low ADHD. My daughter didn’t back down from her claim I was a narcissist and smear campaign.

    • @Jaylade
      @Jaylade 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ok.

  • @user-ok2wv2pq9n
    @user-ok2wv2pq9n 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    He is so rude to her.!! Very inappropriate for him to treat her that way. He doesn't say her name correctly.. wow